You're Icing Wrong! The Search for the Best Sole Sauce, Ep. 1. Angelus Sole Bright Vs. Salon Care 40
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- Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
- Welcome to the new "You're Icing Wrong!" series where I will take you on an in depth dive into the world of Icing your kicks to keep them as crisp as possible, as long as possible.
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It's no secret that I only have a few videos on my channel that have any sort of "substantial" viewership and it turns out, the top three videos on my channel have all been dedicated to ICING your kicks. What I'm going to be doing is going WAY more in depth on the best ways to ice your sneakers and in doing so, I will be trying to find the answer to the question...
WHAT IS THE BEST SOLE SAUCE?!
With numerous sole sauces on the market at this point in time, there are plenty of different options. A lot of people swear by the hair product Salon Care 40 Volume Creme. Some sauces claim to be the best, others seem to be merely repackaged Salon Care 40 Volume Creme.
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BUT-- there has never been a definitive answer... That is until now!
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Follow my journey as I take you through an entire series battling different sole sauces against Salon Care 40 Volume Creme to see which sole sauce is the KING of sole sauces?!
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In the first episode, I battle Salon Care 40 Volume Creme (our constant/test subject) against Angelus Sole Bright (the competitor, the variable) to see which product worked better to bring some life into a pair of Adidas Yeezy 350 V2 Beluga 2.0.
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Let me know what you think in the comments below! If you have any products that you want to see tested, definitely feel free to mention them and I will look into purchasing some!
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I just got done icing out my belugas literally the same pair lol it went back to grey writhing 4 days I used 40 cream I couldn't be happier it was piss yellow I'm looking at them now and I'm amazed lol
Glad to hear you got great results! Salon care 40 can work for cheap, I personally prefer other products that are less likely to cause damage and work more effectively at this point but… If it works, it works! Congrats on your restoration! Happy to hear you were able to reverse the yellowing!!!
Thank you, I learned so much from your video- I was icing wrong!! I was only leaving the SoleBright on the sole for 6 hours (b/c of website instructions)- I'll be leaving it on for MUCH longer w the indoor setup. Thanks!
No doubt! I personally do all I can to squeeze every bit of cost out of the bottle lmao. One thing I would most definitely keep an eye on when you leave it for longer is temperature-- make sure that it doesnt get *too* hot otherwise, the heat could potentially damage the shoes and no one wants that! Also, keep your eyes open for traction loss. I typically find less traction loss with sauces specifically formulated for sneakers, but other products (such as salon care and even sometimes sole bright if I'm careless) will lead to some traction loss. Now with wear and friction on rough surfaces, this traction loss will typically be reversed but it is one thing to keep an eye on
glad that my videos could help!!
I appreciate this video, I will start my journey soon on restoring a couple of pair of Jordans
glad to have helped! can't wait to see what you're able to produce!! enjoy the journey
I suggest trying deep woods off original mosquito repellent.
It removes yellow from headlights so I wouldn't be surprised to see it work on soles.
That’s really cool information! Does it follow a similar process?
The yellowing is oxidation that works from the surface and down through the layers.
Essentially, the spray works quick on plastics but you have to move relatively fast to wipe off.
I would suggest several approaches to apply/remove procedures since shoes are more elastic than lenses and has crevices and texture as opposed to a smooth finish.
If the rubber loses some of it's hardness from long application then an epoxy hardener may reverse any melting.
Thanks for your vid. It was exactly what I was looking for. Previously I purchased the Fab sole sauce and it took him 2 weeks to ship it and we’re in the same state. A mix up with the address and it was returned to sender. So I was looking for an alternative and I found these two cheaper products and I couldn’t decide which one to try. I was going to buy both since two bottles of them would still be cheaper than the $40 Sole sauce 16oz. I tried to purchase. Your vid was exactly what I needed. Thanks!
so happy I could help! keep your eyes open for more videos in the near future!
Bro I love this video it's so well done and informative. I've recently got into the sneaker game. Your video has been very helpful. So my issue so far is I've not been able to find the optimal sun spot to permeate the Sole bright (haven't found an outdoor spot that stays sunny for 3-4 hrs) . Noticed that you have your own improvised controlled "sun box" id love some tips on how to how to do that. As you know that can mean everything to this Process.
You're Icing Wrong! The Search for the Best Sole Sauce, Episode 5: Building a basic Ice Box!
ua-cam.com/video/NKh0x6R6w_E/v-deo.html check out episode 5 where I build a basic ice box! Thanks so much for the support. I’m glad I was able to help you in your journey!
solebright is also good to use in tandem with other angelus leather dyes to paint rubber soles.
i've heard that before! have you ever done it? really curious as to how the application works!
@@SailboatSupplies it works, but you do have to get the mixture right & do light coats.
I’m using salon 40 in my win like 96 11s .. it’s working but geesh it’s taking forever .. I’m using a 1000w grow light too
Try a stronger light. 1200w is the minimum I use.
Great explanation!thanks for running the experiment & all of the little notes you dropped through out. I recently replaced plastic wrap with disposable shower caps & it’s been really nice. The tension band essentially seals the shoe for you. I also started concentrating the SC40 in my crockpot. I don’t have a way of measuring the concentration afterwards, but I reduce it to half. It is POTENT!
glad I was able to help! So interesting to hear about you trying to concentrate SC40, I've never heard of anyone doing it themselves personally! So cool. Love the idea for the shower caps, that's brilliant. Thanks for your support!
Would you mind sharing the process?
So I've been icing my 11s... but I try to stick at 8 hour intervals.... the 48 hour intervals is interesting. I think that's what I'm gonna try next
Yes 8 seems very short to me; I try to go until right before the sauce is totally evaporated/dried out. I’m going to be switching to 24 hour sessions for the next series but I’ve had good luck with 48 hours. Many sauce distributors say don’t go beyond 24 hours though.
They seem like they are the same. seems like sole bright, fabes, and other sole sauces are just basically using salon care 40, just putting it in their own bottles with their own logos slapped on them, and then selling it for more. Im just going to stick with salon care 40 to save my money.
that's exactly the purpose of these videos as a matter of fact! for far too long, I have felt like the difference is so minimal that the price might not be worth it. Stay tuned, I'll be testing a LOT more products in the near future!
Check out the safety data sheets you’ll find the same ingredients
It worked? Bc i wanna unyellow some pair of yeezys
It worked? Bc i wanna unyellow some pair of yeezys
Clearly you didn’t see the end result. The Sole Bright worked better. It justified the price.
I used salon care 50. And nu antidote. My jordan 11 space jams got lighter but not icy. My light is a 2000 w uv light. I was looking into cck sauce
CCK is my personal favorite out of the 12+ sauces I’ve tried over the years. I have not used salon care 50 due to not having a license to be able to obtain it. NuAntidote is my go to for cleaning and beginning the icing process then I generally use a specific sole sauce on pairs that need additional icing beyond what the NuAntidote can do.
Can’t wait for this series! I just got into restorations as a new hobby
It's fun but SO challenging for certain things! Icing just happens to be one of the things I'm most comfortable with
Thank you. I have some 350s I want to restore and sale. This helped a lot.
So happy I was able to help! Best of luck!
Rick Ross said give me some Jordan's and some sauce!😂
Great in depth video but I think the results were a little inconsistent. Although it's the same pair, the left shoe has much deeper yellowing than the right shoe. So I wouldn't say angelus sole bright is better than salon care 40 because of it. I am looking forward to more of this series however. I want to see comparisons with salon care 50 and also CCK. I've used CCK and it works great but it's expensive so I stick with salon care 40 for costs. One other suggestion would be to put side by side pictures throughout the process so we can see the differences.
appreciate the comment, and I would say that's a fair assessment, the left shoe did seem to be a bit more yellow to begin with. What I would counter is that the results achieved on the right shoe seemed to happen more quickly and I think that overall, the difference was more remarkable from beginning to end on the right shoe so I would personally still give angelus the SLIGHT edge (although I agree, that could 100% be challenged). CCK is DEFINITELY on deck, I have a bottle that I'll be working with soon. Salon care 50 I would love to try, just need to find out how to get my hands on a bottle! I can understand the use of salon care 40 for cost reasons- I think that it is easily worth the cost, especially when you can achieve some amazing results. I appreciate the suggestion of the side by side comparisons! I am beginning to do that and I think I actually did do that for episode 2 so stay tuned! I really appreciate your feedback. Thank you for tuning in, I really do appreciate the support on the channel and constructive ideas!
Can you also make a video applying it to the midsoles? And can you also put this on the fabric?
DEFINITELY NOT on fabric! it is a very corrosive material and will cause chemical burns. The same thing can be said for many midsoles; I would completely avoid using sauce on ANY component that is not rubber!
@@SailboatSupplies So I can use the sole bright on the midsoles of yeezy 350 right?
it depends on what you consider to be the "midsole". Traditionally, outsoles are the outer rubber portion of the shoe that provides traction and midsoles are the section of the shoes between the outsole and uppers that provide cushioning.
Technically, the midsole of a yeezy 350 is enclosed; the boost material is technically the "midsole" and the rubber, grooved "outsole" wraps around the "midsole" (much like a jordan 1).
as you may be able to see from this video, I actually did utilize the sole sauce on ALL of the rubberized material (AKA the outsole wrapping around the midsole).
For shoes with a 'more traditional midsole' (think AJ4, AJ3, Air max 1, air max 90/95/97) I would 100% not recommend using sole sauce. ANY type of sauce will be too corrosive and will chew through the paint of the midsole and even worse, the material of the midsole (depending on what the midsole is made of). Some kicks, such as a Jordan 11, may be able to withstand the corrosive nature of sole sauce.
because of this, I use sole sauce exclusively with rubberized materials on shoes (AKA only the outsoles) @@timmytishaukkie5257
This series is going to be rad, I think it would have been cool to run one more round and switch the products on the shoes since they both seemed to be better at different parts!
thank you! I'm honestly insanely excited for this series, I think it's gonna be dope. I was considering that but due to time restraints, cost of the project, and intention to keep all factors as even as possible, I decided to do it this way. I want to elaborate on it more in the future but for now, until I've done all the products I have, I'm going to have to continue in this fashion for continuity. Don't worry! The exploration and experimentation is NEVER done
After I take them out of the icebox I clean with water and another clean with acetone.
What’s an icebox? Thought you were referring to a refrigerator since that’s what my grandma meant when she said “overbox” lol
it's an indoor setup for deyellowing sneakers. Check how I made mine here: ua-cam.com/video/NKh0x6R6w_E/v-deo.html
Do you have a link for a UV light?
Not the specific one i use; I literally just search 1500watt UV/grow light on eBay. Here is a similar one I found: www.ebay.com/itm/386697420214?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=pkzb4hlrsgg&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=f5LUDpEUT9-&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
From my understanding and experience, the cheaper non-name brand ones have worked just as well as expensive brand names.
Thank you for this video
No doubt happy to help!
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LETS GET IT STUNNER!!!
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NO SAUCE WASTED HERE! gotta stay saucey!
Hey brother. Thanks for all your content! Does the yellowing come back faster after this method and what method do you currently use if your still brightening soles? Thanks
Thanks for watching, Dang! In my personal experience, yes, yellowing will come back quicker than it originally did after icing. It’s important to remember that as soles/shoes get worn down in general, the damage and grime that they accumulate will certainly build up and cause for the shoes to appear older/more worn much more quickly than they originally did. While I don’t know with 100% certainty why this happens, I would theorize that after wearing the shoes, the materials become more porous after wear, allowing more chemicals/grime into the actual surfaces of the shoe and therefore accelerating how quickly the shoe actually is affected by oxidation. Again, this is only a theory, but this does seem to happen with a lot of surfaces in general- as the surface wears down, it creates more pores for junk to get into. An EXCELLENT example of this is with dabbing, if you’re familiar at all. A quartz banger will “Chaz” over time as the quartz surface becomes more porous allowing for the oils to penetrate into the quartz and causing it to become more dirty, more quickly.
As far as deyellowing soles, the process that I show in this video is the exact process I follow on a regular basis. The only difference is I’m very selective with my sauce. I personally use CCK sole sauce for pairs that come in for restoration work and personal pairs. I typically only use other sauces to create content and/or if I’m testing a new sauce I’ve never tried before. This specific method of application has treated me very well though and I tend to stick with it!!
@@SailboatSupplies wow brother thank you for all the insight! Makes alot of sense.. much love! Maybe I'll try to store my shoes in a air tight zip lock bag when I am not wearing them... I just wonder if there was some kind of sealant I can put on the mid soles to stop or really slow down oxidization.. thanks so much again!
Angle Sole for me what if I use never wet Rest, oleum spray on sole before wearing shoes.
Never tried it but I suspect the chemicals in it would NOT be good for shoes and would potentially even expedite yellowing. If it’s oil based, that would almost definitely cause kicks to yellow more quickly. I can’t say for sure since I’ve never done it though! If you ever do decide to try, I’d be very curious to hear the results. I personally wouldn’t try it however. Maybe on a really old beat pair, but not on an expensive or newer pair
Hey man, really appreciate your video. I have some Jordan 1's that I need to ice out, but the problem that I have is coming across an ice box. How exactly do I get my hands on one? and what is it going to cost me? Cheers man
I got you! Check out episode 5 here: ua-cam.com/video/NKh0x6R6w_E/v-deo.html ! I Show you how to make a super basic ice box for under $75!
Can someone help me out rq, I have a pair of Jordan grape 5s from 2013 that I’m restoring and I was wondering if I can ice the yellow netting and plastic parts that the laces go into.
Wouldn’t recommend it with “traditional” sauces. It can damage the materials under.
You can always try just leaving them under temperature controlled UV light for prolonged periods (5-6 straight days). Products like NuLife kicks NuAntidote has also proven to be an effective cleaner and deyellowing agent that is safe for use on uppers.
I would NOT use your traditional all sauces on the uppers though.
If you get sauce on yeezy uppers, don't just wipe it. You must dilute it with water and rinse it out. Otherwise the minute it gets uv rays it'll start to lighten. I've learned by accident by making that mistake. Boost 350s are annoying to deoxidize because of the fabric. It's very easy to have it leak through with the rinsing in between ice sessions. Be very careful.
Appreciate the feedback! While I’ve never had such an issue, I’ve also been very diligent in immediate and full removal of sauce from any undesirable surface it may have come in contact with. This is a great point that I’ll have to keep in mind when producing future videos to warn people of potential damage risks.
@@SailboatSupplies I generally tape the upper off a little bit just in case anything drips or what not. It happened to me on a pair of semi frozen yellows. I went to clean off the old sauce and it leaked through the tape. What I do now is I use alcohol and cotton balls to clean in between sessions. When i'm all done icing, i'll give the entire sneaker a full rinse again just to be sure. Very costly mistakes and 350s aren't very easy to touch up and blend.
What do you recommend for someone who doesn’t have a ice box setup? Is all the steps the same except for the ice box?
More or less, yes! You want to follow the same process as far as sauce application and cleaning between sessions. The major difference is length of session. Outdoors, it is MUCH more difficult to control temperature. Prolonged sun exposure could potentially lead to heat related damage and sole separation so be very careful icing in hot weather and make sure to reduce time of your sessions! (sometimes, only 15-30 min will be necessary with the sunlight)
I have a UV light for my plants. Which color setting would work best to do this if done inside instead of using the sun? I believe there is blue, purple and red.
that's a great question. My light only shines as a purple/pink color but I don't think that color is the most important factor; I think the overall exposure to UV and appropriate wattage are the more important factors. I would recommend researching your light and see which of the settings provides the most intense UV exposure. For reference, my light is 1500 Watt.
@@SailboatSupplies Ahhh. Mine is only 20W.
What would be the best to restore the sole of nike foam posits
I’ve been using Chris customs kicks I’ve and it’s so good but expensive. I’m worried that switching to salon care will be frustrating hah
CCK is AMAZING!!!! I will DEFINITELY be reviewing that in a future video.
I went with fabes sole sauce i spent like 45$ with shipping on a 32oz bottle
I feel dumb I wish I could cancel it
You'll be good! Fabes is definitely expensive but it's a good product that works very well. I've never had any issues with it when it comes to deyellowing!
He sold you some ishhh you can get at Sally beauty supply for $9. 🤦🏾♂️
Thank u ...💪💪👍
Thanks for watching!
You should try a blue packet of hair lightener? Mix with the peroxide of course! I’m a hair colorist and I think it would be a game changer lmk?
I would absolutely LOVE to hear more about this! is there any chance you may be able to DM me on IG (@ Sailboatsupplies)? it would be really interesting to hear more!
@@SailboatSupplies I don’t have an ig but it’s very simple you still do EVERYTHING the same; UV light, Saran Wrap. The only difference is you use 40 volume developer and hair lightener (bleach) mix the blue powder with the 40 volume until it makes a toothpaste consistency then apply. The process shouldn’t take more than an hour?
My wife is a professional Hair stylist and she's had some great sounding ideas with how the chemistry works I'm actually trying one of her ideas now
@@whitelavarball how did it go?
@@dunderhonung2012 its went great sorry for late response my son plays high school football but ill try to post pics and also give a few pointers that my wife gave me as shes a professional hair stylist
Awsome video bro! I have this problem with all ultraboost shoes... I don't have an ice box, i live in a country where is now 45°,in a month is minimum 50° to 60°:) Can i leave them outside for some time? And can i do same thing with the cage, where are shoelaces, to unyellow them on ultraboost 21?
thank you so much for the support on the video!!
So when you say 45-60*, is that in F or C?
One of the main things that you must be careful of is EXCESSIVE heat. You can certainly use sunlight, and usually because of the strength of the UV from the sun, you will achieve results MUCH more quickly. However, if you leave the sneakers in high temperatures for too long, it can cause deterioration of other parts of the shoe (the glue and paints) and can cause warping of materials of the shoe.
If you're talking about temperature in C... I would recommend shorter sessions, maybe 20-30 minutes at a time to avoid damage to the shoes. if you're talking degrees in F, you can leave them longer without fear, maybe 4-5 hours (or even longer) would work.
The important thing is keeping an eye on your sneakers when you are using sunlight to avoid any damage from the heat.
As far as the cage and the shoelaces, this is not something I typically recommend as most sauces are damaging to materials other than rubber. There are some de-yellowing products that are safe for use on a variety of surfaces such as NuAntidote that I recommend for generalized cleaning and de-yellowing purposes.
For what it's worth, the de-yellowing of the boost was something that I didn't know would happen when I made this video. I was more focused on the results on the sole. Because of this, I cannot guarantee that this process will work on all boost material and I do not know how safe these materials are for boost products. I usually recommend this icing technique only for rubber surfaces that have yellowed.
@@SailboatSupplies Thank you gor your answer🙌🙌Yeah, the temperature in C 50,or in F 122,and it'on already😁
i iced my converse lugged white. they were not yellow but i wanted them sparkly white and it only turned them yellow. any idea what happened? help!!
I can't say for sure but I know sole sauce does NOT work on every surface. If it is a surface like plastic, the same thing can happen. I do not know why or how this happens but I'm sure that it actually increases the oxidation process and causes for deeper yellowing.
How long do the results last?
There are a number of different factors that will affect how long a deyellowing lasts such as: which sauce was used, storage of the sneakers, how much you wear them, the environments in which you wear them, and general care. Sneakers that are stored dirty, worn regularly on different surfaces, and not well cared for will turn back yellow more quickly. Older sneakers will generally return to yellow more quickly as well. Results may vary substantially depending on age, materials, wear, care, storage, and more.
Whats your lights watts ? I have a 1200w and idk if i should keep them in for 6-8-12-48 hours everyone says a different time
Mine is also 1200W. As far as keeping it in your indoor ice box, it all depends on the results you are trying to achieve. Most people cycle at 24 hours. I find that my sauce tends to stay hydrated well enough over 48 hours as long as my temperature is well maintained and the sneakers are well sealed with plastic wrap. Usually, shorter sessions are utilized in an outdoor Icing situation where the UV from the sun will be stronger and the temperature will be higher. A lot of people swear by 24 hours but I always feel that if my sauce is still hydrated and doing the job, I am able to ice for a full 48 hours. I would recommend experimenting a bit and seeing what works best for you but usually 24-48 hours in an indoor set up is appropriate.
How many hours under sunlight, if you don't have an ice box?
Very dependent on several factors: 1) temperature (want to avoid too hot to reduce chances of damage to the sneakers and to reduce risk of sole separation).
2) overall level of sunshine- what season is it? That will determine how far the sun is and UV exposure. How’s the weather? Is it cloudy or completely clear?
3) what part of the world are you in? This in part determines temp and distance from sun
4) how able are you to check up on the kicks? I would recommend being able to check up on them every 30 min to ensure no damage is occurring.
I know some people that will have results in as little as 30 min and others who are in cooler environments that will leave them out 4-6 hours. It’s highly dependent though.
whats your set up looking like for the 48 hour light treatment?
take a look at this video I made (episode 5 of season 1); here, I go through the process of making a simple, home made ice box for around $50! You can also use a grow tent with the appropriate wattage light but typically they are expensive (although some have build in ventilation which is really helpful)
ua-cam.com/video/NKh0x6R6w_E/v-deo.html
SAUCE COUNTER OVER 9000!!!
Do you keep it in the box for 48 hours straight or in increments of 2-3 hours at a time?
48 straight hours. If you have a well ventilated, temperature controlled environment, you can keep them in the ice box longer without fear of damage, specifically sole separation. Sole separation and sneaker damage occurs at high temperatures that break down bonds and cause warping of materials. If you do not have a temperature controlled environment, I would recommend less time. This is especially true with direct exposure to HOT UV rays (such as those from direct sun).
I maintain my ice box in a well ventilated closet that also gets direct A/C access so the closet never reaches temperatures above 80*F
Great video! I don’t have an ice box, how many hrs should I leave it out in the sun?
It all depends on the temperature and age of the shoes! Remember, the more heat exposure, the more breakdown of the original materials and bonds will occur (IE higher likelihood of sole separation due to heat breakdown of the glue). If it’s cool, you can leave them out several hours. If it’s hot, then you may want to limit sessions to 30 minutes at a time; all depends on the temp!!
Thank you so much for the support btw! Really appreciate that immensely.
Question : when you ice your soles and they come back to life, does the ice start wearing off when you aren’t wearing them or the ice should start wearing off the more you wear your shoes because I just got my shoes iced and they are turning back yellow at the bottom not even a month in having them iced and they’ve been sitting in my closet the whole time I never wore them since I got them iced, so does that mean the sole source was weak?
it could mean a number of things. The sauce may not have been high quality, the storage conditions may not be ideal, the sneakers may just be very old, poor previous care of the sneakers, etc. There are dozens of considerations when it comes to how iced a sneaker will become and how iced it will stay.
Based on the given information, I suspect several things. 1) poor quality sauce used. 2) shoes were taken out of the ice box when color had gone and did not get continuous exposure to UV with fresh sauce even after color had improved and therefore, effects did not penetrate as deeply into soles as desired. 3) poor storage conditions.
it's hard to say WHY specifically but those are my theories. Remember, icing is certainly not going to last forever and sneakers will naturally yellow after being iced (even more quickly than they originally yellowed) BUT that being said, I normally expect a longer lasting result
Ok thank you
This won't work on Yeezy Turtle Dove's midsole right ? That has to be re-painted ? Any tips on which paint matches the best.
that is correct! as far as paint matches, I think that you actually have to manually color match the midsole/outsole paint to get the correct off white hue. I would recommend searching youtube to find turtle dove full restorations; I think Reshoven8r's Vick Almighty did one a few years back and talked about the paint match.
@@SailboatSupplies Thank you, I'll look into it.
@@SUPERIMIAINI if I stumble across one ill be sure to link it!
@@SUPERIMIAINI ua-cam.com/video/WOpoa9zYVJY/v-deo.html here is one from 2 years ago by vick almighty. I didn't get around to the painting part but I know he does a repaint in this video.
@@SailboatSupplies Thank you brother, much appreciated! I'm trying to restore these doves!
What kinda light do you use. Is it a black light??
It is a UV grow light actually, not a black light! There are hundreds upon hundreds on the market and I’ve had very good results with cheap ones that I have purchased on eBay personally. I use a minimum 1200watt light for my projects. These lights produce a lot of heat so proper ventilation and temperature control are required as to not cause sole separation to the kicks and to ensure that all components remain in the best condition possible
So with the sole bright would u do another session to get complete whitening or would u leave them as is???
They could have used another session but to be honest, were pretty tapped out and had achieved pretty much the most "icing" that they would have. I think it would have been worth a shot, but unfortunately, didn't get the chance as they sold after the second 48 hour session. Thanks so much for watching and commenting! check out some of the newest episodes on my channel as well!
@@SailboatSupplies do u stitch soles as well
@@devonthymes272 I can but it's not my specialty. It's a service I most typically source out to others that I know are especially proficient with it but I am always open to it!
I heard even when you ice shoes they turn yellow by next week
Not USUALLY the case, but it can happen. All sneakers will naturally age and yellow with time. Depending on the condition prior to icing, the amount of wear before icing, the age of the shoes, the storage condition of the shoes, the types of environment the shoes were previously worn in, and the amount of wear after icing will all play a role in how quickly the shoes will yellow. It is not uncommon for shoes to turn yellow more quickly than they originally did after an icing session however, it should take much longer than a single week
I store mine in clear dust free shoe boxes...is that good?
What UV light do u use and what wattage is it
Honestly it’s a random no name brand off eBay. 1000W and up does the trick in my experience
Hey I have some 350s no uh light how long and how many sessions outside should I do? And do I clean after one session?
depends on how hot it is and what season it is! Warmer weather, I tend towards shorter sessions to avoid too much heat and potential separation or heat related damage. I clean between every session to get all the old sauce off
number of sessions depends on results obtained after each session! Some will need more, some will need less.
How did you set up your ice box?
Check this video here for details: You're Icing Wrong! The Search for the Best Sole Sauce, Episode 5: Building a basic Ice Box!
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I think i ice'd my yeezy creams wrong. My cream's bottom sole got ice'd but the inside midsole got very yellow. Bought fabel's sole sauce to try and rescue it. I think the inside midsole may have gotten yellowed due to heat from the uv light and not having enough cooling/ventilation. Any suggestions on how to rescue to yeezy creams midsole? Do you recommend using bloom or veg on grow light or both for the midsole?
i'm a bit confused by what you mean by "inside midsole"... I have never heard that term before. Do you mean the boost that is encapsulated by the rubber sole? do you mean the rubber that curls up onto the sides of the shoes?
I have never heard of heat causing additional yellowing to occur. I cannot speak from personal experience either. This theory is something that I would need to test or see experiments done with.
in order to help to rescue the midsole, I would need to see what part you are considering to be the "midsole" as the TRUE midsole on an adidas yeezy 350 is different than a "traditional" midsole
my UV light does not have different settings; it is extremely basic. I do not know enough about the differences between the different light cycles and cannot speak on this intelligently other than theorizing that either should work if the wattage is appropriate.
With the salon 40 you need to add bleaching powder that’s what’s in those sauce drip bottles
I would highly recommend AGAINST adding anything to salon care 40 as it is a hydrogen peroxide solution and mixing with other chemicals could cause for severe chemical reactions.
Sole sauces are simply hydrogen peroxide solutions mixed with thickening agents to make them less liquidy. The hydrogen peroxide is the main chemical agent that aids with the deoxidation process
definitely dont add bleach lol
Honestly, I did not know you can sole sauce boost!
for real. I'm still going to practice with caution and only do the soles but I may try the "midsole" portion soon if I continue to get these results
Can I use salon care 30 instead of 40 because i just seen this video and my guy just happens to have some
I would imagine that you probably could, but the results would not be as quick, nor would they be as thorough.
I would personally avoid it because it is going to require more sessions to get your shoes as icy as you want them to be and I try to minimize overall chemical exposure as much as possible
What to do if u get salon care 40 on suede by mistake ?
great question. Suede is a tricky material that deserves delicate care. while I have not run into this issue myself, I would imagine you would want to be gentle with your cleaning, as is recommended on any suede material.
I would recommend first DABBING the sauce off. Use a paper towel or something very absorbent to get off as much of the sauce as possible without rubbing it in or spreading it on the suede.
I would personally then let it dry all the way, in front of a fan. I would want it to dry as much as possible as quick as possible to avoid lengthy exposure to the sauce; increased length of exposure=higher chances of damage
I would then clean the suede using a LIGHT/SOFT BRISTLE BRUSH. A hog hair brush may be a good option (although is not the only option). I would use a suede eraser (or synthetic suede eraser, depending on the material composition) and "buff out" the area. After working it out this way, I MAY (and I use MAY meaning I would practice this with EXTREME care and caution, if at all) I MAY use a SLIGHTLY damp cloth to try to rinse/wash out any of the remaining sauce.
There are other, better suede cleaners than just water (NuLife kicks makes a great product but it also has a learning curve to getting the care down pat) and I use liquid as sparingly as possible on suede.
After cleaning the suede with an eraser again, after letting the suede dry 10000000%, I would use a brass bristle brush to reknap the suede and bring back the original luster.
Suede is a tricky material to clean in its entirety and is best left to DRY cleanings when and if possible.
The most important thing is to remember to remove as quickly as possible and avoid overexposure. You can always tape off the uppers if you think the sauce will definitely run.
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Thx for the response bro I kinda fixed it . I hit the spot with a eraser then reknapped it and then dyed the shoes and reknapped once more. Came out pretty decent
@@taivonwise7112 glad to hear you were able to get them looking good again! I wish I could be more specific from previous experience but I haven't ever been in this specific situation so I guess I'll have to test myself if it happens to me. Just another reason why i have a love and hate relationship with suede
I have a pair of teen wolf dunks. Only issue is the midsoles are yellow. They are expensive kixs so don't want to fuck em up. Any advice
On dunks, you can utilize the same icing process; you just need to be really careful to not get sauce on the uppers. Many times, I will place the sneakers soles DOWN rather than soles up when I ice if I am just doing the mid soles so that the sauce doesn’t even have the chance to drip onto the uppers. You can use a wire rack or something to suspend them above the “floor” of the ice box. If you don’t want to risk it yourself, you can always source out the work to a restoration artist that will do it for you! This is a service that I offer as a matter of fact. Feel free to hit me via DM on IG as well.
Hey I don’t know if anyone will see this but if so can anyone tell me if bright white led lights work as well as dark purple uv lights when re icing
From my understanding they do; I have always had the purple lights so I cannot speak from personal experience. The wattage is the most important factor though. I use 1500watt lights
Ig some sauce slid on the suede part of the shoe and it looks like it burned it or something. What can I do?
Unfortunately that is an irreversible chemical burn. You may be able to use suede cleaning procedures to help to clean the area and then redye the suede however, it is going to cause a degree of permanent damage to the suede. That’s one of the reasons it’s so important to protect the uppers during the application process.
I put some bright on my jordan 5 netting, and it made it more discolored and turned it orange. Do you know why that happened? The netting was already not bad but just a tiny bit yellowed.
Yes, you should NOT be using sauces on these types of materials. Sauces should be used on RUBBER components of sneakers. Sauce can cause damage to non-rubber components of sneakers and can damage mesh, leather, canvas, and other materials of the uppers. I suspect that there was a chemical interaction that caused the yellowing to worsen as the netting is a plastic material
@@SailboatSupplies Do you think there’s any way to save them or are they pretty much chalked?
@@domineek4503 i know there are a lot of restoration artists out there that can actually do netting replacements; I would search IG and see if you can find anyone that demonstrates that in their photos. I have a list stored on my IG account as well If you wanna shoot me a message there I can send you a list of references worth checking out. It would depend on what pair they are if it would be worth it or not as I imagine that work like that may be a bit on the pricey side. I wish it was something I did but it’s a bit outside my realm of expertise
WHAT UV LIGHT DO YOU RECOMMEND TO USE...
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Have the subscribe and like buttons pop up at the bottom of the screen and point down at it, instead of the top corners
thanks for the suggestion! I will definitely keep that in mind for future videos! Thanks for the support!
Do you know by chance which is better salon care 40 or 50
I do not. I have never used Salon Care 50 Creme but from my understanding and what I've been told, 50 creme is stronger. In MOST places, you have to have a hair dresser licensure in order to order 50 creme due to the chemicals.
keep in mind NEITHER product is made specifically for sneakers and as such, may cause complications if improperly utilized (such as loss of traction on the soles of the sneakers)
Will the salon care remove paint off the soles?
Usually soles aren’t painted…. Salon care is VERY corrosive though; it will definitely damage paint. Care should be taken to avoid non-rubber surfaces.
Do this require heat while lettin them sit?
No! I recommend trying to keep things as COOL as possible. Increased heat= increased likelihood of causing the glue to break down leading to sole separation. Keep things in a cool, dry environment under 80*F
@@SailboatSupplies woooow I wish I would’ve listened I didn’t use a heat box but I have a light area in my kitchen that’s similar and since I don’t have like walls like the ice box I figured I apply a lil heat to help the light
@@mallymal1041 the reflective siding of the ice box is to help with the lighting; it’s a relatively good reflector of light. The idea is that the more of the UV that can hit the soles, the better. You can 100% use this method without the reflective side panels, however, i find those panels help a lot in dispersing the light. I’ll be making a “how to” for a cheap ice box soon!
Hope this helps a bit!
Why aren't you putting masking tape on the upper? Legit question
Great question. I personally follow the rule “as much as is necessary but as little as possible” when it comes to my prep work and amount of sauce utilized. I make sure that i am extra diligent with all my prep to avoid any long term damage to the shoes and avoid getting the sauce on the uppers. I have also truly dialed in the amount of sauce that i use to ensure that it does not drip or leak onto the uppers during the icing process. You wouldn’t be Wrong to tape the uppers- it is certainly a good method of maintaining safety for the uppers and to ENSURE that you’re not going to damage them. I personally find that when the sauce is applied carefully and with appropriate amounts, masking tape is unnecessary. Additionally, if you are skilled/experienced with the placement of your Saran Wrap/cling wrap, you can really use that to make sure that all the sauce stays in place.
Long story short: if you’re just beginning and don’t have much experience, this is a WONDERFUL way to maintain safety and avoid potential damage on any materials sensitive to sauce but it’s not necessary, especially when you have practice and experience. For me, I’m comfortable with the amount of sauce that I use and the prep process I use that I won’t damage other components of the shoes and that kind of prep work takes a LOOOOOONG time so I avoid it when I can.
Salon care 50
Would love to try it sometime. Hard to obtain without a hair care license
What is the best way to clean Nike air max and Jordan ??
Depends on the material honestly. There are a lot of good cleaners on the market but it depends on the type of cleaning you're looking to do and the material you're trying to work with.
I prefer sole bright 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I personally like it a bit more as well! I think it does a slightly better job and can get "deeper" icing results.
Most likely angelus uses a higher concentration of hydrogen peroxide in their sole sauce. Because that’s all 40 developer is. 12% hydrogen peroxide
Totally understood, and that’s essentially the purpose of the project: to find out which sauce produces the best results regardless of the chemical composition. There are so many sauces that have chemical compositions that are so similar there is hardly any difference between them and SC40 but there are some the perform MUCH better and some that have additives to aid with the consistency thus making sauces easier to apply as well as additives to aid with the fragrance of the sauce. Comparing different available products advertised as a “sole sauce” up against SC40, which has long been the “golden standard” for icing, helps to give an idea of where people can best spend their hard earned money
@@SailboatSupplies the only difference is going to be thickening agents. Chemically they can claim they have other stuff in there, but the only active chemical that will bleach plastics is hydrogen peroxide. Higher concentration will do it faster. You need a salon license to get higher than 40 volume (12%). What I suggest you do is get 30% (not volume) hydrogen peroxide used as a cleaning agent and use different inert powders to thicken it to create a sauce. I guarantee that’s the only thing these sole sauce companies are doing. They depend on the fact most people don’t know what developer is made from and that you can get stronger hydrogen peroxide solutions just as easily.
@@Pmc987 no doubt, I would not argue that in the slightest. My intention for the series is primarily to be informative to those that aren't as familiar with the process of "icing" shoes. Most people will not go the lengths necessary to create their own sauce and by providing these comparisons, I can help other people best spend their hard earned money. This specific series was 12 episodes, and I intend on creating another series that dives deeper and helps with more specific comparisons. I have had many people ask me why I don't use salon care 50 volume and many don't realize that you need a license to get something higher than 40 volume and they certainly don't know that they can use commonly found products to create their own sauce. What I hope to provide to the individuals that aren't as familiar with icing is the information that there are many solutions that are easier to work with (likely due to thickening agents and ease of ability with spreading), some that smell better (CCK Sole Sauce is an amazing example of this which smells FAR more pleasant than every other sauce I've worked with), some that work more quickly (likely due to the concentration of the solution), some that seem to produce more longevity with their results (as to why this is, I am uncertain), some that cause more traction loss (again, likely due to chemical composition), etc. I really appreciate the feedback; you are definitely one of the people that understands icing a lot better than the typical audience of this video. I'll definitely keep all the information you presented in mind when creating the next series-- it would be crazy beneficial for people to understand the process in even more depth and that kind of information is something I think would be really helpful
@@SailboatSupplies you’re awesome! Keep up the good work! I love when people actually try to understand “why” when they work with stuff, otherwise what happens is the telephone game when people teach others and the truth gets lost.
Not gonna talk about how the right shoe was a darker shade of yellow to start with…
Appreciate you taking the time to watch the video! Sorry it wasn’t up to your standards, I’ll be more clear about this in future videos.
Sauce, Sauce,Sauce,Sauce
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thank you for the support! much more to come in the near future!
I didn’t know the process was so long. I think I’ll just pay someone else to do it.
The actual cleaning and application process is not terribly intensive or long but the wait with them in the icebox obviously takes some time. Luckily, that process is rather passive - as long as your setup is solid, you don’t necessarily need to “monitor” the kicks while they’re in the process of icing. Of course, it’s not for everybody and luckily, there are many restoration artists who can complete this work for you as well (myself included! Feel free to shoot me a message on IV @sailboatsupplies if you were interested in having me care for your kicks!) Thank you so much for your time in watching this video. I appreciate the support immensely!
Salon care 40 ruins the sole though
That solon care 40 is $5 at sally’s lol
Different size bottles cost different amounts at different locations and many people don’t have Sally’s near them (or even know what Sally’s is). Prices listed are for the easiest accessibility for those with internet access (IE Amazon for salon care 40; individual websites for branded sole sauces)
Why didn't you use salon care 50 it's better than 40
Salon care 50 is illegal in most places to obtain without having the proper licensure. You can find products marked as salon care 50 that aren’t truly 50 volume. Additionally, salon care 40 has long been the “golden standard” and it seems more logical to compare the more readily available, golden standard, in order to give a comparison that most people could make by purchasing the materials on their own. The purpose of this experiment was more to provide people with conditions they can replicate easily.
Nothing else compares to Snkrrbar soul food sauce, you'll be thanking that product because you didn't know they changed the icing/shoe cleaner game. I'm not sponsored and I'll go out my way to tell people about there products.
ive heard good things about them and intend on testing them in the future! excited to see how it goes.
What's a ice box?
A box or container of some sort lined with reflective sheeting utilized in the icing process to aid with improved reflection of the UV light.
Many people use grow tents as their ice box. Others use large Tupperware style containers or large cardboard boxes lined with a reflective sheeting known as Mylar.
There are multiple videos on UA-cam about how to make them. I have one on my channel from several years ago about how I made mine and I will be producing another video on the construction of an ice box in the near future.
It's easier with a pair of Adidas, because the sole is a flat oval.
these adidas 350 V2 are actually produced by adidas! Thanks for watching!
It's NOT a sauce... it's a cream. Sauce is for food.
lol I’ll let you take that up with the hundreds of different products that literally contain the word “sauce“ in their name, and the thousands upon thousands of sneaker restoration artists who have been calling it sauce for the last couple of decades
Not too progressive G. 😒
Just use hydrogen peroxide and baking soda
It works but it’s also a sure fire way to damage your shoes beyond repair 💁🏼♂️
That’s a chemical burn on the angelus
yes, it fades with time and the rubber will return to its typical color
Explain this ? So don’t use Angelus
@@emelycosio5942 no it’s cool
How many times does he say sauce
I haven’t counted but if you want to watch again and count I’ll let people know for the future. Plus the views help with the revenue, so thanks for watching ;)
0:33 is when I stopped watching. The fact that you are demonstrating how to restore your “icey soles” and they are some damn Yeezys is unforgivable
Sorry you feel that way. Other people have found this series to be especially useful and I apologize that you did not. Perhaps another video is what you’re looking for.
Sorry to ruin this for y’all. But you’ll never get them to be icey new again. You may get some of the yellowing removed, but it will never be what you want. I’ve ruined two pairs of Jordan 6s by trying these methods. Now they have no grip and still yellow. It’s not worth the time or effort. Enjoy the aged look, no one cares what the bottom of your shoes look like.
I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience, or rather, multiple bad experiences. The amount of icing that can be achieved is due to a number of different factors including (but not limited to) age, amount of wear, sun exposure, types of surfaces worn on, regular maintenance (ie cleaning regularly), storage conditions, and type of material. Unfortunately, making a blanket statement that "you'll never get them to icey new again" is false-- if you're icing a pair of DS sneakers, it is VERY possible to restore the original luster of the shoes. The purpose of this series is to educate people which products work the BEST when it comes to deyellowing. Not all sole sauces are created equal, some do a better job than others and some are SAFER than others. if you were using Salon Care 40, a product originally intended for use on hair, there is a good chance you caused a chemical burn on the sneakers which is why they lost traction. Other sole sauces, developed specifically for use on shoes, are NOT as harmful and will not cause the same effects. I agree, everyone *should* enjoy the aged look of their sneakers, but many want to maintain the most optimal condition of their kicks as possible and for that reason, products like this exist. Thanks for the watch, and appreciate the feedback.
Salon care volume 40 is a Creme. Not a "sauce". Calling everything "sauce" because a few companies using the name sauce is stupid and just sounds illiterate.
I’m so sorry you feel that way, getting caught in semantics so heavily must make living day to day life very difficult. I can only imagine how hard it is when people use “sick” for something cool or amazing as opposed to something that is ill, when people use “cap” to describe a lie/falsehood instead of “a head covering” or “dope” as something awesome rather than “a drug taken recreationally” or “a stupid person”. For what it’s worth, 75%+ of companies that make a deyellowing/deoxidation agent for shoes call their products “sauce” and that term has been colloquially used for 15+ years- it’s not meant to be accurate in a literary fashion. I don’t know where I gave you the idea that I was illiterate during this video, perhaps a reminder that being illiterate is “the inability to read or write” and I didn’t do any reading or writing during this video.
At any rate, appreciate you watching long enough to give extra views and for taking the time out of what I assume is a busy day to comment on this video.
Everyone be cap'n just for views can't trust no 1
that's why im looking to find the best sauce, so I dont have to cap
Just the fact that you call it “sauce” is such a joke. It’s not sauce. You’re trying to be cool with some slang. IDK man how bout growing weed in that tent and just putting the shoes outside?
I’m sorry you feel that way, Scott. Believe it or not, “Sole sauce” Is actually a very popular terminology for hydrogen peroxide based deoxidation solutions. Many companies use “sauce” in their actual product names. Fabes sole sauce has been around for 10+ years and is a very popular product. Drip sole sauce, CCK sole sauce, AZRC Sole Sauce, Positiv Soles “The Best Sole Sauce” are all examples of brands that have been very successful and use this exact nomenclature. As far as using an indoor ice box as opposed to putting them in the sun, I prefer to have the ability to control my temperature. With the Sun, things can get very hot very quickly. If you leave your kicks in an area that is too hot, it can lead to sole separation as well as other damage such as warping of material and melting of adhesives (this is actually something I speak directly about in many icing videos). Hopefully that helps give you a better understanding of my process
@@SailboatSupplies shoe sauce? What kind of modern idiotic terminology is that? 🤦♂️
Normal ppl just oxidize or buy new shoes. Waste of time and money
@@joshuamedrano2712 sorry you feel that way, Joshua. As I have previously mentioned, “sole sauce” is a very popular terminology. I did not invent it, I simply use it in the same way that thousands of other sneaker restorers use it. This term has been used for 10-20 years at this point in time and is very common.
@@joshuamedrano2712 I’m sorry you feel as though this is a waste of time and money. My customers tend to feel as though having an “icy” sole is more appealing. Many people prefer a fresh, store bought look, and others prefer an aged look. Some people even prefer to pre-age their shoes and sneakers such as the “Off-White” line of Nikes even encourage premature aging and the aged look. Whatever you wear, I hope that you #rockwhatyoulike. Obviously my deyellowing/icing/sole sauce services are not for you but if you do have interest in other restoration work I would be happy to point you in the right direction.
Great video but them shoes is ass ugly in my opinion Jordan’s all the way
Different strokes for different folks! Thank you so much for the view an I really appreciate the support