Who Was OMEGA? (Doctor Who)
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
- Rassilon has long been attributed with the creation of Timelord culture, bringing Gallifrey into its era of Time-Travel from the Dark Ages of Pythian rule.
But alongside him, for most of his life was a companion and equal genius, Peylix, later known to the Doctor, as Omega.
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" A hero.....I should have been a GOD!" RED FLAG RED FLAG!!!!
Omega was one of the great tragedies of all sci-fi. The episode where the 3 incarnations of the Doctor went to confront him was one of my all-time favorites of any Dr. Who era.
Poor guy just wanted to do science and got screwed.
Imagine you failed your thesis and then out of spite you take the name ‘F’, put on a cool mask, and invent time travel.
LMAO
Omega would be the symbol for a capital O. Would the villain in your origin story then be... Critical Failure? (Insert Steve-Oh meme here)
The scientific rivalry between Omega and Rassilon kind of reminds me of that of Nikola Tesla and Thomas Edison.
Except the only thing Edison actually invented was the Industrial lab.
One can't help wondering if Omega's accident - working the sabotage theory - was a Dalek attack in the spirit of the CIA sending the Doctor to Skaro in Genesis of the Daleks. It would make sense in the structure of the Time War.
Except that I believe in current canon, the Web of Time that Rassilon established was also responsible for the fundamental ordering of time in the universe. Things like the Beast from The Satan Pit were the few leftovers from before that event. Before time as it is now existed. To be able to travel back "before" that time wouldn't be possible without ripping apart the Web, and thus, causality itself. Before the Web was established, reality was a place like Omega's own pocket dimension, where thoughts and will defined and shape the universe more so than physical laws, if I understand correctly. In fact, it may have been the Gallifreyans' own belief in order that helped caused the order to be structured enough to even have science in the first place.
Dr. Who's lore is weird and overly complicated. As expected from something cobbled together by dozen's of people across decades.
@@Skyblade12 agreed
Sadly the timeless child episode brought me here.... Sorry omega
Pertwee was my first Doctor. I remember the special where the three Doctors went to face Omega.
I never saw much Pertwee, but this summer we have binged classic Who thanks to Pluto TV. Pertwee is now by far my favorite!
i got to meet him once at a small public forum where he was doing a promo for our local public broadcasting service. such a nice man. he asked me for a cigarette but i wasnt able to help him out because i dont smoke. it was the first and only time in my life i ever felt bad for not smoking :D
I still don't know why the Church of the Silence's soldiers had the Omega symbol on their uniforms. I was really hoping it would have been revealed that Omega was behind it all. 😢
They had a greek omega letter on their uniform, not the symbol of the Timelord named Omega. His symbol is different.
Omega stands for the end (alpha and omega meaning the beginning and the end). However I can't say why the Church of the Papal Mainframe used that symbol.
@@MasterEnsisMaybe Omega the Time Lord inspired omega the symbol. Humans look Time Lords; perhaps their collective unconscious took some things from Omega
I find it funny that Omega was one of the only Time Lord founders to not be a prick; he only went off the deep end after he got stuck in an empty universe
Well, he was a bit egomaniacal.
that's great Rick, thanks. Poor Omega... The scene where he removed his mask was I think one of THE BEST scenes ever in Dr Who
"I walked in universes where the laws of physics were devised by the mind of a mad man." - The 11th Doctor, Rings of Akhaten.
I would have thought that would be referring to The Celestial Toymaker.
The Three Doctors was my favourite episode for years, so I remember this guy!
serial, not episode. The Three Doctors is not New Who
Do Sutekh the Destroyer. He's another character who needs to make a comeback.
One word
YAAAAAAAHHSSS
As The Thanos in an Endgame style Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA/Class crossover event
Well done for not taking the mickey out of Mr. Rubber Chicken Ergon. Omega also created a champion in the Three Doctors too. And he could summon a chair.
I really hoped Omega was coming back when the omega symbol was seen associated with the clerics in The time of angels
I would like to see more about the other.... It's been a running theory for awhile now that the Doctor is the Other
Keep it up. You continue to entertain me with extended lore of my childhood. Though I really got into Doctor Who in '05, I did grow up with a bunch of the movies and some serials from years before I was born. I tried watching the whole series from beginning, but I got most of the way through the first Doctor and ran out of money. Turns out $80/storyline likes to empty my wallet faster than my job could cover at the time.
Thank you I have been waiting for you to do this one!
Heard it here first, the villian of s12 is 100% omega. Those creatures have such a resemblance, and references to other worlds, "take this universe" just cement it for me
I want to believe you but a Doctor Who series wouldn’t be a Doctor Who series without Omega theories 🤣❤️
Omega, in the guise of the Ruth Doctor (still got the bio-data), in the guise of the Master (thats my name - "O"), in the guise of Grace and all the other friends the Doctor carries with her (Jack..?), all in the guise of a crazy frog...
This aged poorly.
@@atb6613 reeeeeeeeeeeee
What a great video! Thank you
Great video, love Doctor Who stuff!
It's cool that the way omega got his name makes him sound like an supervillian
Technically Speaking there race is not called Time Lords, They are called Gallifreyans. Time Lords or Lady is a title that is given when a Gallifreyan child goes through the Rite Of Initiation when the child looks into the Untempered Schism. If they survive this and don't go crazy then the title of Time Lord Or Time Lady is then confired upon that child; However not all Gallifreyans become Time Lords or Time Ladies. However it is also shown that you can be a Gallifreyan without being a Time Lord or a Time Lady.
Gallifreyan is any species from gallifrey. Time lords are the doctor’s species specifically
There are about 2000 words dedicated to Time Lord Rank or Species on the wiki page. I hazard the discussion is not as simple as your comment.
FeaR_CheetaH Time-Lords aren’t a species though, they were simply the ruling-elite of Gallifrey
You can also get non-Gallifreyan time lords (or at least creatures that regenerate) if they were to look into the untempered schism.
Omega definitely needs to come back. Either in a Big Finish story or the show. He’s too important to ancient Time Lord history and needs more stories.
Well, Rasilon came back...
Jared Maddox exactly. Rassilon gets all the attention these days in new who. Omega needs an episode or too because I feel there is a lot you could do.
There was an Omega episode from Big Finish -- www.bigfinish.com/releases/v/omega-213
Even morbius came back in the audios, i agree that omega would be great to see again, especially if they get peter davison to play him, just think everyone will be leaking him coming back to play the doctor, only to have the twist that he is playing omega after taking the face of the fifth doctor.
charles townsend yeah that would be creepy. Have it be like how him being all anti matter has degraded his appearance so he looks like a monstrous fifth doctor that has some resemblance also to his famous mask. I also would love to see him try to have revenge against Rassilon in a story, since they say it was Rassilon who sabotaged Omega’s project.
One of my favorite Third Doctor episodes.
Who would like to see a doctor who story with omega and rassilon in the same story.
Well, looks like this has all been swept away by that carbuncle, Chibnall.
Not really.
223p 223p yes, really.
Love your doctor who vids
In the book cold fusion, there is a ancient pre TARDIS time machine just referred to as The Machine, would this be Omega’s prototype time machine. The first one to make a time trip and return?
One of my absolute favorite villains. There were a couple of classic who stories on Netflix and the three doctors was one of them. It was amazing and I was glad to be able to watch that story. Him, sutekh, sharaz jerk and Fenric became my favorites before I began to watch even more classic stories (before I knew the daleks, cybermen, sontarans and silurians)
You mentioned the other, will there be a video on them as well?
I'd like to see omega come back at some point, maybe even get peter davison to play him.
@laughingman666 yeah i like the idea of the other and it would be interesting to see a video on it and it would make sense as they've done a video on the other two.
@laughingman666 i thought that the doctor was omega
@laughingman666 i guess i must have had the two mixed up
I really would like to see a video on how the Tardis shaped Gallifreyan society. And also a cultural index on the cybermen at some point please.
I'd love to see more classic Who videos
Look at ua-cam.com/users/sesska53 - She is currently going through the classic Who's.
Your videos get better and better. Kudos!
I don't even watch Doctor Who and this was quite interesting! And deep!
Never watched ?? You ain't seen nothing yet. But you need to start with the early ,original run of the show. Don't let the first two Doctors turn you off it.These were baby steps. Trust me you will like it.
@@jad43701 I meant I don't currently watch it. I've seen many episodes. I watched the first 3 seasons ("series" in the UK) of the new Doctor Who and basically liked it, but the loose "universe rules" kind of turned me off after a while. That is, there were no predicaments that the Doctor couldn't get out of by some heretofore unmentioned fact or feature. It just was a little too "wibbly wobbly" for me and I lost interest. David Tennant was my favorite Doctor, followed by Matt Smith.
First the Omega Directive, then Omega the space station, and now Omega the time lord. What next, the Omega AI from RVB?
Plot Twist: Rick *is* Omega.
You mean the omega directive from star trek
I wonder if Omega could be 'the one who waits' that the Toymaker mentioned in the 60th. Would be so cool if he came back, perhaps still with Peter Davison's face.
Omega's fate sounds a lot like the pocket universe being named House, who lured in timelords.
One reason to bring back Omega: he's one of the few characters who might be able to rebuild Gallifrey after it got sterilised under the 13th Doctor's tenure.
I really want a show on the early times of Rassilon, Omega, and the Other. They are such an interesting trio especially if you believe the theory that the Doctor as a relationship to him. (Either as a reincarnation or a descendent.$
Well it is explained that the Doctor was the reincarnation of the Other and I think it's best the storys of Rassilon, Omega and The Other remain in our imagination.
I think it would be a great spin off if the show ever ends on a definative note.
It would kinda ruin the mystery that those times had, they’re one of the few pieces of time lord lore that weren’t ruined when the Timelords simply became bumbling politicians. Also the BBC would never have the budget for it
About... time ;)
EXCELLENT
You've been doing so much with the term Omega in it.
A video on the other to complete the founders trilogy
Three more stories featuring Omega: the 5th Doctor audio Omega where he once again tries to escape, the 6th Doctor book Search for the Doctor where Omega was able to capture the Doctor in his realm, and the current comic mini-series Omega.
I love him so much and feel so sad for him.
Have you tried looking at the back of your DVD case to See what actor played him.
records from this time are conflicting and speculative - history is written by the survivors ...unless of course there is some method by which you can travel back in time and observe the actual events taking place.
I think in lore that time period is time locked by the timelords (which kind of makes sense as someone could go back in time and take out the timelords or even go back and accidentally prevent the timelords from obtaining time travel), so no one can go back and check.
Omega even created a particle that -redacted-
omega directive initiated
Part 2 please there is more thanks to big finish
10:08 "I love the old time lord lore" oof
Are you going to cover The Other?
Hey Rick good work on Rassilon and Omega. What about Morbius? Who was Morbius?
It would be cool to see him cover the mad timelord warlord morbius, i'd also like to see the other covered in a video.
Multi-Voice Reviewer Morbius was a former president of Gallifrey who directed Gallifrey into a policy of conquest. He even had his own army of mercenaries. However his followers on Gallifrey later denounced him and he waged war against them until he was finally captured and executed by the Sisterhood of Karn. However one of his followers had removed his brain prior to the execution and he was reborn as a Frankensteinian like monster until the fourth Doctor and the Sisterhood stopped him
I really wish a good modern writer would explore the story of Omega, both his origins (did he go mad, was he already mad, did Rassilonn betray him or did Rassilonmimorisonnhisndear loved friend to save him instead of killing him) as well as would Omega come back to rule or to help his birth universe, maybe having been enlighten from his life journey and seeing the bigger picture of time & space…
The 13th season of the doctor is just preparing us for the emergence of the anti-universe, Omega and his heir (Could be King), the stream, wounded by the TARDIS, Flux. All this is a great canvas for a new era.
They could do some shows with the cult of Omega.
Always wondered what happened with that poor gardeners death
I'm sensing a theme of late with a lot of your videos. A theme of omega.
Omega in the 3 Doctors, so, so reminds me of Dr. Doom.
Comprehensive overview. Thanks! But I hope they don't ever bring him back. Sometimes and ending should be just that.
"Oh-may-ga."
Have I dreamt this or did the Time Lords, back in the ancient mists of time, refer to Gallifrey as Gallifree?
Being born in 1964, my first Doctor was very late Patrick Troughton/Jon Pertwee and I could have sworn that all the myths and legends and back stories really started gathering momentum the Doctor's home planet was simply called Gallifree, which I took to mean that the planet was so named because Time Lords were free to roam the galaxy through time and space. I could be very wrong about this though.
Sad story, man.
Will you ever look at Sutekh The Destroyer?
Video on The Other?
Can you to a video on time lord chapters?
He should Return
Assuming that Omega's new body was of average weight for a human male at 80 kg, his conversion to antimatter and subsequent annihilation would have released the energy equivalent of 3437 megatonnes of TNT. Certainly a large amount of energy but no where near enough to destroy "most of the Earth" especially when you consider that the majority of the energy released is in the form of high energy gamma rays, electrons, positrons and neutrinos.
Curious how so many things of a world a long time ago, in a galaxy far away happen to have Greek names and letters. ¬_¬ Writers might want to think about that.
I miss the old episodes, they were great, and had very memorable aesthetics like Omega's suit and the Master's outfit.
I like to think of the Greek names as English equivalents of unpronouncible alien languages, haha. And yes, the classic stories and costume designs were great. The Master's velvet suit with gold collar was stunning.
That was very cool! Would Omega be considered a toxic patriarch? :-)
Speaking of Time Lord lore, I wonder what tales will be told about The Doctor, tens of thousands of years ( Gallifrey linear time) in the future? Rebel? Hero? Traveller? Or simply forgotten?
Considering how much of an impact he has had, saved gallifrey multipule times, held the office of president of gallifrey (and notably wasn't killed), overthrow several leaders of gallifrey and is one of there most notable renagades, i doubt that he'll be forgotten (even if the ruling leaders would try to hide his actions due to his rebelious nature) but how he would be remembered is an interesting question, he'd definitly fade into myth and legend like rassilon and omega (and debatably himself with the other), probally being remembered as all three, rebel, hero and traveller.
If the Timelords are all knowing etc etc, why haven't they sued or issued a cease and desist order on the BBC for co-opting their story ?
I can't remember his name... the villain from "Talons of Weng-Chiang" was also a renegade Timelord who had a Tardis and conducted some sort of wild and dangerous experiments. Ever since seeing that story I wondered about what he did. (Also, if I recall correctly, his Tardis was left abandoned on Earth by the Doctor after he smashed its key. So somewhere on Earth there is a spare Tardis laying in storage.)
Then there is Morbius, from "The Brain of Morbius." Wasn't he a renegade Timelord too? One that caused a war? I wonder what his story and place in Gallifreyan society was.
Seem to remember that the guy from "Talons of Weng-Chiang" was just a loonie dictator with a time cabinet, rather than a Timelord with a TARDIS.
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Maybe. It's been 35+ years since I've seen it. Sounded an awful lot like a Timelord though.
@@douglasdea637
"Weng-Chiang, whose real name is Magnus Greel,[2] is the former Minister of Justice of the 51st century Supreme Alliance, responsible for the deaths of 100,000 enemies of the state, earning him the epithet "the Butcher of Brisbane".[3] He appears in the 1977 serial The Talons of Weng-Chiang. Greel fled to 19th century China by means of time cabinet, taking The Peking Homunculus with him.["
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Doctor_Who_villains#Weng-Chiang
Douglas Dea he was not a timelord. He was a mad dictator from the 51st century using a zigma beam powered Time cabinet
Alright now I am going to have to dig into my storage unit and try to find a book (a type of encyclopedia of the Doctor) that I picked up in England during the 90's that was explaining that Rassilon and Omega were brothers and the doctor was there nephew and that the doctor was the third in the creation of the time Lords and the only reason that Omega was able to have a DNA match to return to N-Space was that doctor was his nephew but to remain in N-Space the Doctor would have to be eliminated or take his place in the antimatter relm.
Without that book to use as an reference this statement will come across as just fanboy trash. 😠
World Traveler so it is
There is the idea hinted at and explored in expanded media that the doctor is a reincarnation of the third timelord known as the other, who worked alongside rassilon and omega but i've not seen anything before to say that they were all related.
Could you do a vid on The Other. He’s really mysterious & I’d love to learn more about him & how he’s you know who.
& also their Wife Patience
Music?
Ohm Resistance is..... oh wait...
can you ppls do a video on the other.
what about the Audio Omega?
I dig how the Brits say O-MEGA.
Oh Muguh sounds like a TV show
Why would they retcon this?
The top of Omegas helmet looks the the 10th doctors sonic screwdriver top
NMM was only based on Valeyard and Manuel Noriega.
A device that could collapse black holes ? Wut ?
Omega needs to fight Vecna from Stranger Things!
Considering their goals, I say a temporary alliance to escape their prison.
lol, kinda a dark outro. RIP random gardener.
Dr Who no seriously WHO ,,?
I don't care about the timeless children this is the real lore right here the magic cult and the three founders
If it's Anti-matter, what's it matter? (This is a joke)
yes...everything in the universe and all the bits in between those giant incandescent balls of gas are just one colossal punch line to a joke that no one really understood in the first place...even with the inclusion of the galactic laugh track (available only in select and more advanced sectors of the universe) the result is still not as funny as initially intended...
Ouch! Stingy! :-)
Oh no, not my recorder!
I like Omega
Omegon? Clearly Omega is actually a traitor Primarch and not a Gallifreyian.
ver nice
Unlike Omega Nightmare Moon was never considered a heroine unlike Omega who was considered as a hero more apropiate will be Clover the Clever not Nightmare Moon which is a ponified Valeyard.
where on Gallifrey did you get Peylix and Ohm from??
I've been watching Doctor Who for 43 years and have read loads and seen most TV stuff and have never heard those names mentioned.
I'm sure you just made this up
Jason Marshall the name Ohm was used by the Adherents of Ohm, a secret order devoted to worshiping Omega. Also Peylix is on the Doctor Who wiki, not sure where it originated though
OH MIh GAWH!!!
Clover the Clever taking the form of Fluttershy Omega taking the form of 5th Doctor.
It's the Sisterhood of Karn, named after the planet Karn, not Khan.
With Chibnail on the way out maybe someone who cares about Moffat's hard work will introduce Omega as the new Big Bad to carry the next couple series, hopefully Jodie Whitaker sticks around for it too.
I guess Nightmare Moon was based on both Omega and Valeyard
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