School Prayer Ban Upheld By High Court Ruling | “It’s Not A Targeting Of One Religion”

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  • A ruling dismissing a Muslim student’s High Court challenge against a ban on prayer rituals at her school is a “victory” for all others, its headteacher has said.
    Michaela Community School in Brent, north London, faced legal action from the pupil, who claimed its policy was discriminatory and unlawfully breached her right to religious freedom.
    In a judgment on Tuesday, a judge concluded the ban did not interfere with the student’s rights and was “proportionate” amid the school’s aim to promote an ethos of inclusivity and social cohesion.
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  • @twistedsister2568
    @twistedsister2568 14 днів тому +50

    The mother knew the school policies before she registered her daughter to attend. If she didn’t like the fact that her daughter would not be allowed to pray she should have taken her elsewhere, preferably a country that is compatible with her Muslim beliefs.

  • @richardh7231
    @richardh7231 14 днів тому +47

    Jews pray 3 times a day. Muslims pray 5 times a day. Neither can pray at this school. And if that's the rules don't go to this school I guess.

    • @Undead-Aquila
      @Undead-Aquila 14 днів тому +9

      out of the 2 who are the ones trying to change laws/policies to suit them. blame the parents they also knew the policies before she went there, bit still took it up on themselves to take it to court.

    • @elainekent3551
      @elainekent3551 14 днів тому +3

      @@Undead-Aquila Well said

    • @tom4381
      @tom4381 14 днів тому +1

      @@Undead-Aquila They both are at it.

    • @allydlovesherdogs
      @allydlovesherdogs 14 днів тому

      ​@@tillyt4054 Thank you for speaking up. 🙂

    • @fooddrinkfusion1013
      @fooddrinkfusion1013 14 днів тому

      Shame you dumb nazis can't focus on real issues facing educational institutions like this
      Rape Crisis England and Wales reported that 1 in 6 children have been sexually abused - this includes all situations - meaning the danger that children are in is only increasing. This statistic, paired with the shocking findings of the Everyone’s Invited campaign, that compiled a list of nearly 3000 schools (primary, secondary, college) submitted by past pupils across the UK who had been victims of sexual assault or harassment, is a deeply worrying reality that the school environment isn’t as safe as it seems

  • @Bambagustrust
    @Bambagustrust 14 днів тому +19

    The only phobia in this country is anglophobia

    • @sayithowitis1
      @sayithowitis1 14 днів тому

      Afraid and not wanted is different.

    • @indiechana9771
      @indiechana9771 14 днів тому

      Very true! The hatred towards white Christians in this country is disgusting this is coming from a British Sikh.

  • @chizzy201179
    @chizzy201179 14 днів тому +21

    What the hell is the blonde woman talking about

    • @jackhewitt600
      @jackhewitt600 14 днів тому

      Dont know. A classic middle class white women. If the pupil does not agree with the rules go to another school.

  • @tonyo6972
    @tonyo6972 14 днів тому +35

    Brilliant, now can we ban it in the British workplace, including the mat provided

    • @WATCH.MY.PLAYLIST
      @WATCH.MY.PLAYLIST 14 днів тому +8

      I’ve heard about it but never seen it. I know Muslims who pray but don’t use a mat and pick the right time to do it 👍

    • @msfyzad
      @msfyzad 14 днів тому +1

      Why bigot ? You can go for a cigarette and toilet , but prayers take five minutes! Bigot

    • @davidweatherhead1431
      @davidweatherhead1431 14 днів тому +8

      Yep mainly in the NHS

    • @HerrEngelsman
      @HerrEngelsman 14 днів тому

      I work at Morrisons. During Ramadan the 'quiet room' is off limits to Kuffar. Jihad in action.

    • @valhalla1792
      @valhalla1792 14 днів тому +2

      Whats the problem with a five minutes prayer in workplace ?

  • @elainekent3551
    @elainekent3551 14 днів тому +12

    Nicola is married to a Muslim enough said

  • @sparky6612
    @sparky6612 14 днів тому +19

    Had a prayer room installed at work to accommodate a few Muslims who were given time away from their work to go and pray only to find them in McDonalds instead. Another one was found fast asleep in there. They are laughing their beards off.

  • @clifficus
    @clifficus 14 днів тому +5

    A British School is a place of learning, Not praying, if you want to pray Go somewhere else.

  • @hellsbells7271
    @hellsbells7271 14 днів тому +31

    It's not discrimination or targeting of one religion, it's ensuring all children are treated the same and no one is given priority over anyone else.
    It would be the same if it was a Christian child who wanted to pray to Our Lord five times a day again, it wouldn't be fair on all the other children who would end up being pushed to the side to prioritise the one kid.
    All kids have the same importance regardless of religion and no one child, should be prioritised above any of the other kids.

    • @msfyzad
      @msfyzad 14 днів тому

      Not freedom of expression isn't it ?? 😅😅😅

    • @allydlovesherdogs
      @allydlovesherdogs 14 днів тому +1

      Exactly well said first comment. 👏

  • @Bkdfishnthings68
    @Bkdfishnthings68 14 днів тому +17

    Aak a Christian if they are welcome in a Muslim country k

    • @Undead-Aquila
      @Undead-Aquila 14 днів тому

      go to a muslim country and try and do what they do here, change things to suit themselves, they'll have your head seperated from your shoulders.

    • @msfyzad
      @msfyzad 14 днів тому

      They are bigot, Malaysia, Indonesia, turkey , Dubai ..bigot

    • @chickenflavoredbubblegum
      @chickenflavoredbubblegum 14 днів тому

      Christians and muslims live side by side in Palestine.

    • @user-bo4hw9mo4r
      @user-bo4hw9mo4r 14 днів тому +1

      Off course they are. Many Christians in egypt. Palestine. Syria . Lebanon. Emirates.

  • @miasewell1958
    @miasewell1958 14 днів тому +9

    Well done to that teacher

  • @petermach8635
    @petermach8635 14 днів тому +10

    Seriously ...... if this is the level of public debate by those in the media on a subject as important as this, we are well and truly screwed. It wasn't "personal", it was a victory on a basic principle, that you obey the rules of an institution, why is that so hard for some to understand ?

  • @wendywalkley8800
    @wendywalkley8800 14 днів тому +19

    Anyone can pray in their head at any time.

  • @HerrEngelsman
    @HerrEngelsman 14 днів тому +11

    I support anti-jihad

    • @badyahelamin8386
      @badyahelamin8386 9 днів тому

      what does jihad have to do with this🤦‍♀🤦‍♀

    • @command3rcodybrickfilms266
      @command3rcodybrickfilms266 8 днів тому +1

      @@badyahelamin8386They just say random crap thinking they’re saying something, when in fact they have no idea what it means 😂

  • @nothingtosee7718
    @nothingtosee7718 14 днів тому +7

    Great news, we are not a Muslim country, so why should ANY school do this. I don’t see Muslim countries taking other peoples views or beliefs into account.

    • @chickenflavoredbubblegum
      @chickenflavoredbubblegum 14 днів тому +2

      you've spoken with all muslim countries to verify this claim have you?

    • @nothingtosee7718
      @nothingtosee7718 14 днів тому

      @@chickenflavoredbubblegum You can speak to a country? How does that work? Special number or webpage for that?
      I’ve been enough of them to know when I go there I have to follow their rules. I dont turn up and demand they change to my point of view. HUGE difference!

    • @command3rcodybrickfilms266
      @command3rcodybrickfilms266 8 днів тому

      How is praying bothering anyone?

    • @nothingtosee7718
      @nothingtosee7718 8 днів тому

      @@command3rcodybrickfilms266 I don’t care about the lack of awareness, it’s the using this nonsense for reasons to wage war!

  • @RiNz22
    @RiNz22 14 днів тому +6

    Any religious practises shouldn't be allowed at the schools. Schools are meant for building a good human.

    • @msfyzad
      @msfyzad 14 днів тому +1

      Why ?

    • @elainekent3551
      @elainekent3551 14 днів тому

      @@msfyzadGo to a Muslim School

    • @rudiofficial9106
      @rudiofficial9106 14 днів тому

      ​​@@msfyzadThat is the question and Im a Catholic myself and I am disappointed at the 2 tier system here.
      Muslims are banned from praying but Christians are okay to pray and give their choirs and chants in schools?
      Im disappointed highly in the system

    • @RiNz22
      @RiNz22 14 днів тому +3

      Religious practices should take in their churches or mosque or whatever. Schools are there for teaching the lessons

    • @moniquesmith3236
      @moniquesmith3236 14 днів тому

      ​@@rudiofficial9106I think you will find other than RC schools.
      ..Christianity is not allowed any preeminence

  • @slimetimetv8517
    @slimetimetv8517 14 днів тому +4

    They are disrupting their own education.go to school to be educated.go to church to practice your religion.

    • @jonbarrass9598
      @jonbarrass9598 14 днів тому

      Even churches are bollocks! God don’t exist 🙄

  • @bowlampar
    @bowlampar 5 днів тому +1

    If any parent insists of having a special prayer room for their child to perform religious duty, there is no reason to send their sweet darling to a high performing school for learning, just keep her at home or go to religious school. 🤔

  • @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632
    @pershorefoodbanktrusselltr3632 14 днів тому +5

    Stop with the Islamophobia slurs again! I don’t like Islam or it’s culture, just like I don’t like Scientology and it’s culture, I’m not Scientology phobic, I’ve made an informed decision on both!

  • @tillyt4054
    @tillyt4054 14 днів тому +10

    All schools should be secular

  • @fooddrinkfusion1013
    @fooddrinkfusion1013 14 днів тому +1

    Rape Crisis England and Wales reported that 1 in 6 children have been sexually abused - this includes all situations - meaning the danger that children are in is only increasing. This statistic, paired with the shocking findings of the Everyone’s Invited campaign, that compiled a list of nearly 3000 schools (primary, secondary, college) submitted by past pupils across the UK who had been victims of sexual assault or harassment, is a deeply worrying reality that the school environment isn’t as safe as it seems

  • @anne9576
    @anne9576 14 днів тому +1

    When my daughter was about 5 yr old it was a very cold winters day I put a pair of thick trousers on her for school I was told the trousers had to be removed not school policy for girls but the little Asian girl had her warm trousers on and kept them on because it was her religion to cover her legs so it was 45 years ago this happened “when in Rome you do as the romans do “they should be told .

  • @elainekent3551
    @elainekent3551 14 днів тому +4

    GO TO A MUSLIM SCHOOL TO PRAY THIS IS ENGLAND

    • @chickenflavoredbubblegum
      @chickenflavoredbubblegum 14 днів тому +1

      Go to a school to learn punctuation

    • @jonbarrass9598
      @jonbarrass9598 14 днів тому

      @@chickenflavoredbubblegumthink they should all piss off to their own country! God don’t exist and neither does Mohamed 🙄

    • @elainekent3551
      @elainekent3551 14 днів тому

      @@chickenflavoredbubblegum Bore off

  • @phil2768
    @phil2768 12 днів тому

    Rebecca is clueless here - she's making it to be something more than it is - it's not just about 1 pupil, it would be about ALL pupils being (from any faith) having the right to disrupt class throughout the day but decides to ignore the fact. The argument is that 5 minutes is not that much to allow, but if all pupils start doing it it can become chaos - you then have to disrupt to make up for each 5 minutes that any pupil misses in a lesson and don't forget, some Muslims were intimidating other Muslims in the school. Some Muslim are extremely intolerant of others (i.e. non-Muslims) but but they expect nobody to be intolerant them or their faith.

  • @MrDonster
    @MrDonster 14 днів тому

    "It's not a targeting of one religion but all religions!!
    We CHAVS are afraid of people of faith especially muslims we adults pick on vulnerable kids because we are tough like that & we do not like to be told to wash our bums or hands after going to the loo.
    This is CHAVLAND!!"
    Said the CHAV

  • @libelle8124
    @libelle8124 14 днів тому

    Oh my word. This blond woman really get on my nerves. Yes! "Our way of life" is exactly the right way to put it. Whoever doesn't like it... nobody is forced to live in the UK.

  • @MaccaMardybum
    @MaccaMardybum 14 днів тому

    Its not a targeting of one religion, its one religion demanding preferential treatment and being told no for a change.

  • @andrewoliver8930
    @andrewoliver8930 14 днів тому +4

    People are free to pray and attend their place of worship in their own time. Schools don't need religious division.

  • @jacquelineithell307
    @jacquelineithell307 14 днів тому +1

    When l grew up we had 2 religions one C/E the other Catholic , you sent your children to a school of your religion , simple

  • @esthermarcen7587
    @esthermarcen7587 14 днів тому

    Being tolerant does not mean being accommodative, you can have your religion and practice in your own time, but we do not need to accommodate your religious needs in everything that we do.

  • @dwaynebailey333
    @dwaynebailey333 14 днів тому

    Do bricks count as Islamaphobia?

  • @Rrrrison
    @Rrrrison 14 днів тому

    This is massive win I want my kids at that school

  • @healingypsy
    @healingypsy 14 днів тому

    They will throw any accusations and play victim to get what they want - very very common Modus Operandi.And the likes of the blonde character is exactly the reason that these groups have the audacity to impose their values on others. If you don't like the school rules then go where they will allow you to pray 5 or 10 times a day and wear your religous outfits which is part of your identity. I hear Pakistan and the Middle East have great schools.

  • @fooddrinkfusion1013
    @fooddrinkfusion1013 14 днів тому

    Taunts, bullying… then groping: how sexual assaults are increasing in schools
    This article is more than 1 month old
    Billy (not real name) is now being home-schooled after bullying turned into physical violence
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    Sat 17 Feb 2024 12.00 GMT

  • @richardh7231
    @richardh7231 14 днів тому +9

    Islamaphobia (a word created by Islamic Republic adopted by the West), do nothing to create fear and hate. They are a religion of peace and look to integrate into any Western society.

    • @moniquesmith3236
      @moniquesmith3236 14 днів тому +1

      Pardon me! Religion of peace ... not what we are witnessing .. get real

    • @richardh7231
      @richardh7231 14 днів тому

      @@moniquesmith3236 please note. I was being sarcastic in my comment!

    • @badyahelamin8386
      @badyahelamin8386 9 днів тому

      ​@@moniquesmith3236 just because there are muslims who promote violence doesn't mean islam is a religion of violence. Please stop being willfully ignorant and research and think before you speak

  • @mspjohnson1408
    @mspjohnson1408 14 днів тому

    I agree that there should be no divison it breads unheathy behaviour. She in the school and seen the reaction. Glad she has spocken up, it unheathy

  • @Jjjkluejnek
    @Jjjkluejnek 14 днів тому +1

    The student was praying during their lunchtime in a private room. There’s nothing wrong with that.

    • @moniquesmith3236
      @moniquesmith3236 14 днів тому

      How do you know ...were you there.

    • @Jjjkluejnek
      @Jjjkluejnek 14 днів тому

      @@moniquesmith3236 you clearly haven’t followed this up. They didn’t ask for their whole day to go to praying the prayer in question take 5 to 10 mins max and can be done during lunch. And somehow that’s a threat?

  • @TheKpatel123
    @TheKpatel123 14 днів тому

    As a hindu I am agree with head teacher no religion nonsense should not allow in any education place .
    Some how peaceful people are more keen spreading izlam all over Europe

  • @emmawilliams7980
    @emmawilliams7980 14 днів тому

    Doesn't matter how many times a day. Equal rights to all. So if one can't go on holiday, other cant pray. Still missing lessons.

  • @RaenRyong
    @RaenRyong 14 днів тому

    "Islamophobic culture" - you're kidding, right? The Palestine flag is treated as a holy object that you're not allowed to criticise

  • @rudiofficial9106
    @rudiofficial9106 14 днів тому +2

    Oh but Christian prayers and chants and choirs can be said? Im a Catholic myself but I am highly disappointed by the hypocrisy of this teacher

  • @ErmacFellwalker
    @ErmacFellwalker 14 днів тому +1

    If you want your religious practices to interrupt your schooling, go to a religious school. That headteacher has effectively banned religious practice inside the school. Her house, her rules. Why go to a school and expext the rules to change for you? Go to a different school.

    • @user-bo4hw9mo4r
      @user-bo4hw9mo4r 14 днів тому

      It was during lunch break. It wasn't interrupting anything

    • @ErmacFellwalker
      @ErmacFellwalker 14 днів тому

      @@user-bo4hw9mo4r irrelevant. The school a duty of care to ensure their children have reasonable breaks too. If the break is filled with prayer, they aren't getting that

    • @user-bo4hw9mo4r
      @user-bo4hw9mo4r 14 днів тому

      @@ErmacFellwalker 5 minute prayer makes the break unreasonable? Your deluded

    • @ErmacFellwalker
      @ErmacFellwalker 14 днів тому

      @@user-bo4hw9mo4r you clearly didn't read what I said, but that doesn't even matter. If the head of the school says religion has no place in the school, then it has no place there. And if students or parents don't like it, they can switch to a school that permits religious practice. How arrogant do you have to be to expect a place to change the rules for your because you simply don't like them?

    • @user-bo4hw9mo4r
      @user-bo4hw9mo4r 14 днів тому

      @ErmacFellwalker the ban was enforced later wasn't it?

  • @user-pq9hn5cm6h
    @user-pq9hn5cm6h 12 днів тому

    This women is talking a load of rubbish its Britain

  • @JH-ck1nr
    @JH-ck1nr 14 днів тому

    How about you come to Britain and live a British Western Way of Life. If not, leave. Islamic Countries don't appease others at all and never have.
    All the other beliefs give no problems at all.

  • @davidweatherhead1431
    @davidweatherhead1431 14 днів тому

    Multiple culturing country.😂😂😂😂gibve your head a shake

  • @mohammedsaddak6495
    @mohammedsaddak6495 14 днів тому

    Praying to the creator of the universe is a must and we shouid all fight for that right, unlike christians we muslims do pray.

  • @glennjenkinson1103
    @glennjenkinson1103 14 днів тому

    If we didn't have religion,the world wouldn't be broken like it is now,I can really get people from the darkest jungles of borneo believing in god,but not everyday people.