I love greens, but I never liked the soily taste of spinach, so my #1 daily greens is Komatsuna, a cruciferous vegetable. Komatsuna has a more clean, lighter, fresher, non-soily taste compared to spinach, and much lower oxalate. Its great.
Yup. I ate about a pound of spinach a week for 18 months. Developed stones and had surgery. The most painful recovery from surgery I’ve ever experienced. I passed stones,5mm, but that was nothing compared to the surgery.
What a nightmare!😕 Hopefully you'll be okay in the future. I quit my spinach habit when I discovered it was high in oxalates. No sense tempting fate, when there are so many other tasty low oxalate greens around. 🌱
So helpful to hear these tidbits. I'm not someone who can eat a pound of anything, but certainly try to get my greens in. Nice to have this info so I can make an educated decision, no matter how much I may eat.
@@debbimorgon2988 ... I used to do that till I found out that beating them up with those steel blades damages the fiber. I prefer to eat whole foods. Besides, on the Starch Solution, we have given up portion control forever, as he states on page 2 of the McDougall Plan for Maximum Weight Loss. Don't see anywhere in his literature to eat a lb. of anything, so I save my blender for some sauces, and an occasional soft serve, which keeps me from running to the store for some vegan ice cream, which is really deadly. To each his own, but I've been doing better when I eat till full and stop, and then eat again when hungry. Took me years to figure that out... lol. I do best by staying away from the 'diet' mentality... buy thanks for the post, and good luck.
Dr Brooke Goldner says that there is no scientific information that shows using a blender damages the fiber in the food. She has a number of articles you can read and listen to on line on that subject. Thousands of people around the world have healed from lupus and autoimmune diseases and EVERYTHING else by following her plan. All free info. No money involved. In fact she recently told the story about a cardiologists who sends his patients to her because his patients got well faster with her eating protocol. Lol. She also says you can eat the food or drink the food. My favorite go to food is raw broccoli dipped in Costco organic guacamole which comes in individual serving containers. I dip the broccoli a few times a day. Very high in nutrients I get the organic broccoli in a big precut bag at c
Organic broccoli in a precut bag at Costco. A lot of my food comes from costco. Most of my food is raw uncooked. Dr Goldner recommends uncooked foods for healing. Cooking destroys the nutrients and enzymes in the veggies and fruits. Veggies by far have the most nutrients. If you have healed can slowly introduce some cooked foods to see how you do. If symptoms come back, back to the raw foods for a longer period of time and try again later. Don’t forget a gallon of water a day plus ground flax or chia seeds or flax oil for your Omega 3s. Sorry for writing a book. Debbi
WARNING: Spinach is very high in oxalates and is known to increase kidney stone formation and urinary oxalate content, according to the Cleveland Clinic.
so people with a history of kidney issues, specifically kidney stones should be extra careful. Those and anyone else concerned can consider cooking, blanching or boiling spinach then discarding the water. This will remove much of the oxalic acid in spinach. Sounds completely manageable.
Here is a thought to reduce the risk of Calcium Oxalate kidney stones. According to The British Journal of Nephrology PMC6533969, CaOx "crystallized with greatest size, number, and total mass at pH 4.0 and least crystallized at pH 8.0." So my take is to drink a lot of water and avoid acidic foods (e.g. soda and meat) while eating high oxalate foods.
It seems there is a problem with everything. I have been eating raw spinach daily in my smoothies for two or three years with no know issues. Should I continue?.."....... I also just read this: Your beloved spinach and kale green smoothies may be causing more harm than good. Oxalic acid is an antinutrient compound found in many plants, like raw cruciferous vegetables - kale, radishes, cauliflower, broccoli - as well as chard, spinach, parsley, beets, black pepper, chocolate, nuts, berries and beans..... of which I’m putting many of these items in my smoothie. Seriously what are we to believe about all these conflicting opinions?
I've read that there's bacteria in some people's guts that help break down the oxalates. Which I guess is why some people don't develop kidney stones, despite eating tons of spinach and other high oxalate greens. Perhaps one day there will be a probiotic to help with this so that we can all eat lots of spinach and reap the benefits, and not have to deal with unfortunate side effect of kidney stones. Thanks for the video! PBL! 🌱
Exactly. It’s the microbiome health that allows us to manage oxalates best and avoid demonising it. Oxalobacter formigenes is one aid which gets decimated in the gut with incessant antibiotics use. And when researchers get better they’ll find raw is also better.
Great information, thanks for sharing the video. Some of these issues related to greens can be confusing, so your videos are very helpful. Take care, Joe
I have heard this spinach warning from Dr Berg on UA-cam. But I only eat once a day and I hope that cancels out the risk of spinach. It's the only frozen leafy green I can afford where I live.
@@buckmurdock2500 who cares what his title is. He has helped thousands of people live better, longer lives, myself included. I'm down 145lbs, about 100 of which was in the first four months, I feel better than ever at 46, the arthritis in my hands is gone, I have more energy and motivation than ever and even my hair is regrowing and thickening, all thanks to Eric Berg's advice. I'd listen to him over the pushers for big pharma any day. Cheers
I stopped eating spinach after Greger talked about it. Why bother worrying about eating too much when I can just eat some other green instead. I stopped using plant milks as well after Greger said that calcium supplements increase your chances of having a heart attack.
Having eaten about a cup of boiled spinach and a couple dozen of almonds two to three times a week for months led me to have a bunch of kidney stones and noticeable blood in urine.
It's just your system. I've eaten almonds all my life. a handful every day and have never had any issues.... Almonds are one of the best nuts that you can eat, so it's just the spinach.
@@Rid3thetig3r almonds have very little cyanide, unless you eat LOTS of them all the time.... Don't trust everything you read.... Almonds have been listed as one of the best nuts you can eat for decades. You don't want to confuse over-eating something with just eating something. Eating just 10 to 15 almonds a day will NOT hurt you unless you have some type of food allergy, then obviously you want to stop... My entire family loves almonds and we have all been eating them for decades, and none of us have health issues.......... Also, I did research on this, and wild bitter almonds are the ones that have lots of cyanide in them, not the grocery store bought ones... But again, you can overdo anything in life....
Metabolism and biochemistry, both see the problems of eating plant based foods, education is essential to counter these so called "health claims". Whilst the defense mechanism of wild boar may be up front, the defense mechanism of the vegetable is less obvious. Even if you take all the toxins out of say vegetable oil, do you still want to use that grey toxic sludge in a salad?
Good to know. I don’t eat that much greens but trying to start eating more. I had been cooking a vegan palak paneer using boiled spinach. I guess it does amount to over a cup a day of spinach but it was boiled. I guess I won’t be doing that anymore. Maybe kale?
So many people have problems with their gall bladder, my mom and younger sister both had theirs removed. Neither one is vegan. I'm so glad to hear you identified the cause and was able to avoid surgery. What a terrible scare!
@@laurieparis2203 , It took me a very long time, maybe six months to figure it out after I went to a specialist who told me after six months of examining me that I needed to have my gallbladder removed and gave me a prescription for a surgeon and ordered me to go and have my gallbladder surgically removed. For that six months I was intermittently in excruciatingly agonizingly pain!! That asshole Dr. knew what the problem was right away, but he would not tell me because he enjoyed using me as a cash cow. When I found out they were cholesterol-based gall stones I researched on the Internet for days. Came to the conclusion surgery was a bad idea! 50% of the people who had surgery regretted it. Also the gall stones could be dissolved because they were cholesterol-based and not calcium based. There is a medication known as brand name Actigall, and generic name Ursidiol that dissolve Cholesterol gallstones. From what I can tell with zero repercussions and zero side effects. At least I didn’t have any. I altered my diet and I’ve never had a problem since, knock on wood. Statistically women have a greater problem with gallstones than men because of our estrogen. FYI P.S. I like some of your music
@@AS-fz5dpkale, collards, turnip greens, mustard greens, cabbage, most lettuces, arugula, endive, water cress, and brussels sprouts, broccoli and cauliflowers are lower in oxalates. I think a lot of people get into trouble with smoothies. Butter lettuce blends nearly as well as spinach and is very low in oxalates. Hope this helps!
I eat a whole bag of 4 leaf mix of spinach beet greens etc a day and I don't like kale so I'm gonna just cut out greens now, kinda heartbreaking but good to know humans aren't designed to eat greens
Dr. Greger is VERY LATE to the party with this warning, and is likely only speaking about it because of the recent attention that ex-vegans and carnivores have given to the subject of oxalates. Is he going to cover the phytates, lectins, and other very harmful anti-nutrients present in legumes, nuts, and seeds?
The cooking instruction at 2:31 is not correct . If you boil spinach for 12 minutes , all the vitamins and nutrition will go out with the oxalates leaving a green mushy mess . Saute garlic and onions in olive oil and butter ,add cleaned spinach with seasonings and stir until soft. Worry less about the oxalates if you eat spinach in moderation and focus more on preparing it deliciously . If its delicious you will want to eat it more often. Buy 2 bags because it condenses down 75% when cooked .
Does this also apply leafy greens like swiss chard and kale? I've been having a lot of swiss chard green smoothies. I've also been adding coffee grounds to get more nutrients. I've been researching it a little more thank you for the help from this video and comments. :) I also live on a dairy farm and drink a lot of milk and that brings to my attention the calcium oxalate bonds or salts that can cause kidney stones.
Swiss chard is high in oxalates, too. I took that off my nice list along with spinach years ago. Kale and arugula are both low in oxalates. What nutrients are you trying to get from coffee grounds? I would be reluctant to try that, since unfiltered / French press coffee is high in two substances that raise cholesterol levels. So my guess is that those things would be in the grounds at a far more concentrated amount?
@@laurieparis2203 I just have so much swiss chard because several of my plants flowered years back and I have so many volunteer chard plants that decided to grow. For the coffee grounds I just throw them in there because they've been used so they have less caffeine (still a good amount I'm sure that I don't want) as well as a lot of dietary fiber and antioxidants. I searched and have read articles on it too.
@@brandonvanommering6858 hi Brandon! That sure is great when we get volunteers plants! That's how my arugula patch was for years, plus I let them bolt once hot weather arrived, got a nice crop of pretty flowers and seeds for myself, neighbors and friends. Unfortunately we had a sneak hard freeze this fall after unseasonably warm weather, and I'm back to scratch again! Anyhow, I was really intrigued with your coffee grounds idea, so I did a bit of reading before you supplied your answer! My question was regarding the effects of two diterpenes (cafestrol and kahweol), raising your cholesterol. That's why it's recommended to use a filter, to strain them out. Might not be that important if you are young, but many older folks have high cholesterol issues. These two diterpenes can raise your cholesterol by 26 points. I would link an article, but UA-cam doesn't like that! But go ahead and Google "coffee cafestrol kahweol" if you're interested in validating the info I've written here. Best of health to you! 🌱
That sounds lovely! How nice of you to give them to friends as well. Yes I am younger and have had not problems with my cholesterol that I've noticed. I am almost 24 years old and work, exercise, and live a pretty active life with my family in San Diego. I may have to try and plant some arugula among other plants. I will try and research to have a better idea and understanding about effects for my health. Thank you :)
I love Dr Greger, but he seems to be contradicting himself from his previous video on the subject. I see the title says “new study” but I don’t see a lot of new evidence in the studies he’s showing in his more recent video. Dr. Goldner points out that meat consumption and dehydration are actually the main culprits for kidney stones and that those who are genetically predisposed will be so regardless of dose (ie could develop them even on lower doses). So I wonder if those of us who have happily been eating massive amounts of raw spinach, chard and beet greens for months or years, avoiding animal products and staying well hydrated, can happily assume this is not an issue for us? I’ll give links below for the two videos mentioned:
Since this channel is called Plant Based London why are you mentioning Collard greens and Aurugula, which are American terms and so not helpful? I’m pretty sure Arugula is what we in the UK know as rocket but I have no idea what collard greens are.
So sorry! My audience is mostly American so I have, over the years tweaked my language. Collard greens are spring greens for those of us in the UK and yes arugula is rocket :)
What about greens high in Thallium? Do we need to have good health insurance before we eat them too or is moderation still the key? I left my keys in the piano so please advise.
Hmm ... I cook 1 small plastic box and eat the whole thing with my eggs. I cannot tell if that qualifies for "cups a day" because it does simmer down to a much smaller serving when cooked 🤔🙄 dang I really thought I was being healthy lol.
If you boil for 12 minutes and discard the water, what is left, newspaper? What does that mean? You go to Costco and can get big bags of spinach. It sure is a shame.
Thank you for this very helpful video. It seems that all greens are either goitrogenic which can be a problem for anyone with Thyroid issues or high in oxalates which can cause kidney stones. I like my greens but now I am worried about the consequences of eating them!
As long as you have adequate iodine, you don't have to worry about the goitrogens found in crucifers. I've got Hashimoto's and eat lots of leafy greens, with an eye to low oxalate selections like cabbage, romaine, arugula. 🌱
@@laurieparis2203 Hello there and thank you very much for your advice. I also have Hashimoto's and take 75mg of Levothyroxine every day. Can I ask you how you make sure that you have adequate Iodine? Do you add table salt to your meals? Thanks again and wishing you well.
Try this recipe folks : Slice of bread cut a bit thick No marg/butter , spread bread with cooked black pudding On top place cooked spinach pressed dry* On top of spinach place a poached egg Cover everything with a white sauce Enjoy * Never throw away spinach water . Keep to add to stews
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 I really don't think leafy greens have anything to do with his looks on the outside, but they probably keep his organs looking quite good.
In the video a cup a day is said then at the end a pound a day is said. I've never eaten a pound a day of any vegetable in my life and that's including multiple vegetables in a days time. At 54 years, 5 foot 3, I weigh 103 lbs and maintain that with about 500 calories a day and have for years (calories are a fraud made up by man anyway). I think if I tried to eat that many veggies I'd feel bloated.
What, randomize a control group with a diet known to cause cancer? Wait, unless they are blindfolded and their taste buds numbed, won't they know what they are eating?
This is why the carnivore diet is becoming increasingly popular. People are realizing the toxicity in plants...Meat doesn't cause cancer, but plants can................I've been on a mostly carnivore diet for over a year now and feel amazing! I do have a small handful of almonds with my meat every day though....
I read not only boiling but blending or chewing thoroughly also breaks down or reduces oxylates in spinach.
I love greens, but I never liked the soily taste of spinach, so my #1 daily greens is Komatsuna, a cruciferous vegetable. Komatsuna has a more clean, lighter, fresher, non-soily taste compared to spinach, and much lower oxalate. Its great.
Thanks for sharing!
Never heard of it. Will have to research it
Yup. I ate about a pound of spinach a week for 18 months. Developed stones and had surgery. The most painful recovery from surgery I’ve ever experienced. I passed stones,5mm, but that was nothing compared to the surgery.
What a nightmare!😕 Hopefully you'll be okay in the future. I quit my spinach habit when I discovered it was high in oxalates. No sense tempting fate, when there are so many other tasty low oxalate greens around. 🌱
Chanca Piedra herb tea for stones (helps pass smaller ones painlessly)
@@profile_01 Where do you get that?
@@TropiChic Internet vendor's it is quite common now
Did you boil them or cooked right away?
I alternate spinach with kale and arugula.
Excellent
Brilliant! ❤️
So helpful to hear these tidbits. I'm not someone who can eat a pound of anything, but certainly try to get my greens in. Nice to have this info so I can make an educated decision, no matter how much I may eat.
Put them in a smoothie. See my other comments. Best wishes!
@@debbimorgon2988 ... I used to do that till I found out that beating them up with those steel blades damages the fiber. I prefer to eat whole foods. Besides, on the Starch Solution, we have given up portion control forever, as he states on page 2 of the McDougall Plan for Maximum Weight Loss. Don't see anywhere in his literature to eat a lb. of anything, so I save my blender for some sauces, and an occasional soft serve, which keeps me from running to the store for some vegan ice cream, which is really deadly. To each his own, but I've been doing better when I eat till full and stop, and then eat again when hungry. Took me years to figure that out... lol. I do best by staying away from the 'diet' mentality... buy thanks for the post, and good luck.
Dr Brooke Goldner says that there is no scientific information that shows using a blender damages the fiber in the food. She has a number of articles you can read and listen to on line on that subject. Thousands of people around the world have healed from lupus and autoimmune diseases and EVERYTHING else by following her plan. All free info. No money involved. In fact she recently told the story about a cardiologists who sends his patients to her because his patients got well faster with her eating protocol. Lol. She also says you can eat the food or drink the food. My favorite go to food is raw broccoli dipped in Costco organic guacamole which comes in individual serving containers. I dip the broccoli a few times a day. Very high in nutrients I get the organic broccoli in a big precut bag at c
@@debbimorgon2988 ... Follow her then. I follow the Starch Solution, and he makes a good case for not doing it, except on occasions. Good luck.
Organic broccoli in a precut bag at Costco. A lot of my food comes from costco. Most of my food is raw uncooked. Dr Goldner recommends uncooked foods for healing. Cooking destroys the nutrients and enzymes in the veggies and fruits. Veggies by far have the most nutrients. If you have healed can slowly introduce some cooked foods to see how you do. If symptoms come back, back to the raw foods for a longer period of time and try again later. Don’t forget a gallon of water a day plus ground flax or chia seeds or flax oil for your Omega 3s. Sorry for writing a book. Debbi
WARNING: Spinach is very high in oxalates and is known to increase kidney stone formation and urinary oxalate content, according to the Cleveland Clinic.
Right it’s horrbible
so people with a history of kidney issues, specifically kidney stones should be extra careful. Those and anyone else concerned can consider cooking, blanching or boiling spinach then discarding the water. This will remove much of the oxalic acid in spinach. Sounds completely manageable.
Almost every ex-vegan I've ever seen who had terrible KIDNEY STONES got them from eating green smoothies filled with SPINACH.
@@gmnotyet Sounds like you didn't actually watch the video
Oh no, l guess all those cancer and heart disease patients better continue to avoid spinach!
Thie video replies to a query we have had on our mind for a couple of years.
Here is a thought to reduce the risk of Calcium Oxalate kidney stones. According to The British Journal of Nephrology PMC6533969, CaOx "crystallized with greatest size, number, and total mass at pH 4.0 and least crystallized at pH 8.0." So my take is to drink a lot of water and avoid acidic foods (e.g. soda and meat) while eating high oxalate foods.
I heard putting lemon juice on it can help.
It seems there is a problem with everything. I have been eating raw spinach daily in my smoothies for two or three years with no know issues. Should I continue?..".......
I also just read this: Your beloved spinach and kale green smoothies may be causing more harm than good. Oxalic acid is an antinutrient compound found in many plants, like raw cruciferous vegetables - kale, radishes, cauliflower, broccoli - as well as chard, spinach, parsley, beets, black pepper, chocolate, nuts, berries and beans..... of which I’m putting many of these items in my smoothie. Seriously what are we to believe about all these conflicting opinions?
I really don’t know what to eat anymore ! It’s overwhelming. 😩
@@theresaluy9056 French fries
I've read that there's bacteria in some people's guts that help break down the oxalates. Which I guess is why some people don't develop kidney stones, despite eating tons of spinach and other high oxalate greens.
Perhaps one day there will be a probiotic to help with this so that we can all eat lots of spinach and reap the benefits, and not have to deal with unfortunate side effect of kidney stones.
Thanks for the video! PBL! 🌱
Spot on Laurie! Love your input so much!
@@PlantBasedScienceLondon Thank you! Big fan of your videos, they're always a bright spot in my day. 🌸
benefits, good one.
Exactly. It’s the microbiome health that allows us to manage oxalates best and avoid demonising it. Oxalobacter formigenes is one aid which gets decimated in the gut with incessant antibiotics use. And when researchers get better they’ll find raw is also better.
That's pure fantasy. There's no mystical mitichlorians that can magically zap inorganic crystalline structures
Its so stupid. One day something is good for you the next day it's not
Water's good for you, too, but if you get to much of it you can drown. The Poison is in the dose.🌱
Great information, thanks for sharing the video. Some of these issues related to greens can be confusing, so your videos are very helpful. Take care, Joe
Thank you Joe, so glad these videos are helpful :)
Thank you for always giving us helpful information!
Thanks for the great video. And thanks for making short videos that have a lot of useful information.
This is very helpful. Thanks!
Thank u so much for the hardwork you guys r doing.
I have heard this spinach warning from Dr Berg on UA-cam. But I only eat once a day and I hope that cancels out the risk of spinach. It's the only frozen leafy green I can afford where I live.
Isn't he the chiropractor pretending to be a real Dr. ??
@@buckmurdock2500 who cares what his title is. He has helped thousands of people live better, longer lives, myself included. I'm down 145lbs, about 100 of which was in the first four months, I feel better than ever at 46, the arthritis in my hands is gone, I have more energy and motivation than ever and even my hair is regrowing and thickening, all thanks to Eric Berg's advice. I'd listen to him over the pushers for big pharma any day. Cheers
@@buckmurdock2500 The KETO quack? Lol
@@Deb_BG yup. The one fined by the medical board in his own state for
masquerading as a Dr.
@@kohiba666 how many people has he hurt with his nonsense?
I'm glad that you talked about oxalates :)
I stopped eating spinach after Greger talked about it. Why bother worrying about eating too much when I can just eat some other green instead. I stopped using plant milks as well after Greger said that calcium supplements increase your chances of having a heart attack.
I'd really encourage you to watch this video on plant milks, you may find it really helpful ua-cam.com/video/0hJfTitpocU/v-deo.html
Greger says a lot of dumb crap
Having eaten about a cup of boiled spinach and a couple dozen of almonds two to three times a week for months led me to have a bunch of kidney stones and noticeable blood in urine.
Only that ? Sounds super weird....
It's just your system. I've eaten almonds all my life. a handful every day and have never had any issues.... Almonds are one of the best nuts that you can eat, so it's just the spinach.
Almonds have cyanide in them. Green plants have oxalates. You're taxing your body really hard. Maybe you shouldn't be eating these things?
@@Rid3thetig3r almonds have very little cyanide, unless you eat LOTS of them all the time.... Don't trust everything you read.... Almonds have been listed as one of the best nuts you can eat for decades. You don't want to confuse over-eating something with just eating something. Eating just 10 to 15 almonds a day will NOT hurt you unless you have some type of food allergy, then obviously you want to stop... My entire family loves almonds and we have all been eating them for decades, and none of us have health issues.......... Also, I did research on this, and wild bitter almonds are the ones that have lots of cyanide in them, not the grocery store bought ones... But again, you can overdo anything in life....
@@down-the-rabbit-hole soaked then ^_^.
Metabolism and biochemistry, both see the problems of eating plant based foods, education is essential to counter these so called "health claims". Whilst the defense mechanism of wild boar may be up front, the defense mechanism of the vegetable is less obvious. Even if you take all the toxins out of say vegetable oil, do you still want to use that grey toxic sludge in a salad?
Highest veg in oxalates, which eventually causes kidney stones.
Good to know. I don’t eat that much greens but trying to start eating more. I had been cooking a vegan palak paneer using boiled spinach. I guess it does amount to over a cup a day of spinach but it was boiled. I guess I won’t be doing that anymore. Maybe kale?
Ms. Plant based London, are there any videos of your channel that show you? Want to know the person to match that calming, soothing, pretty voice
Eat spinach but no too much. Hmmm. How about none at all?
Is there actual research showing oxalates are bad in a practical environment? Like interventional studies?
I ate too much spinach and wound up with gallbladder disease. I had to go on a dissolving cholesterol base medication or have my gallbladder removed
So many people have problems with their gall bladder, my mom and younger sister both had theirs removed. Neither one is vegan. I'm so glad to hear you identified the cause and was able to avoid surgery. What a terrible scare!
@@laurieparis2203 , It took me a very long time, maybe six months to figure it out after I went to a specialist who told me after six months of examining me that I needed to have my gallbladder removed and gave me a prescription for a surgeon and ordered me to go and have my gallbladder surgically removed. For that six months I was intermittently in excruciatingly agonizingly pain!! That asshole Dr. knew what the problem was right away, but he would not tell me because he enjoyed using me as a cash cow. When I found out they were cholesterol-based gall stones I researched on the Internet for days. Came to the conclusion surgery was a bad idea! 50% of the people who had surgery regretted it. Also the gall stones could be dissolved because they were cholesterol-based and not calcium based. There is a medication known as brand name Actigall, and generic name Ursidiol that dissolve Cholesterol gallstones. From what I can tell with zero repercussions and zero side effects. At least I didn’t have any. I altered my diet and I’ve never had a problem since, knock on wood.
Statistically women have a greater problem with gallstones than men because of our estrogen. FYI
P.S. I like some of your music
@@MissMarinaCapri Good thing you did your own research and didn't listen to that doctor.
I'm confused. So how much and how often should we eat Spinach per week? Mon - Tues - Wed, 1/4 cup - 1/2 cup - 1 cup? Or, is this even close?
I wouldn't eat spinch, beets or swiss chard at all. There are other veggies lower in oxalates.
@@carolineyunker9 like what?
@@AS-fz5dp Broccoli, cabbage and cauliflowers are lower in oxalates.
@@AS-fz5dpkale, collards, turnip greens, mustard greens, cabbage, most lettuces, arugula, endive, water cress, and brussels sprouts, broccoli and cauliflowers are lower in oxalates. I think a lot of people get into trouble with smoothies. Butter lettuce blends nearly as well as spinach and is very low in oxalates. Hope this helps!
I have never heard the word cancer spoken so beautifully....Can-suhhh
Great video as usual. ☘️☘️☘️
Thank you 🤗
Great video!
P.S. What is the BRAND of BLENDER in this video?
I eat a whole bag of 4 leaf mix of spinach beet greens etc a day and I don't like kale so I'm gonna just cut out greens now, kinda heartbreaking but good to know humans aren't designed to eat greens
Healthy low Ox greens
Dr. Greger is VERY LATE to the party with this warning, and is likely only speaking about it because of the recent attention that ex-vegans and carnivores have given to the subject of oxalates. Is he going to cover the phytates, lectins, and other very harmful anti-nutrients present in legumes, nuts, and seeds?
🥱🥱
Here comes the oxalate police! Watch out for my new book The Oxalate Code written by Stephen Gundry and Paul Saladino.
Ha!
I remember that one time i ate about a bag from the grocerie of spinach like chips, i had some terrible feelings in the stomach and im vegan.
You can absolutely live without spinach, and no thank you, I don’t need the oxalates! 👎👎👎
ALL green are toxic.
How then your going get iron and vitamin k if you've got bone problems like arthritis and tricep pain
The cooking instruction at 2:31 is not correct . If you boil spinach for 12 minutes , all the vitamins and nutrition will go out with the oxalates leaving a green mushy mess . Saute garlic and onions in olive oil and butter ,add cleaned spinach with seasonings and stir until soft. Worry less about the oxalates if you eat spinach in moderation and focus more on preparing it deliciously . If its delicious you will want to eat it more often. Buy 2 bags because it condenses down 75% when cooked .
Another great video.
Does this also apply leafy greens like swiss chard and kale?
I've been having a lot of swiss chard green smoothies.
I've also been adding coffee grounds to get more nutrients.
I've been researching it a little more thank you for the help from this video and comments. :)
I also live on a dairy farm and drink a lot of milk and that brings to my attention the calcium oxalate bonds or salts that can cause kidney stones.
Look up Sally K. Norton and oxalates on youtube.
Swiss chard is high in oxalates, too. I took that off my nice list along with spinach years ago. Kale and arugula are both low in oxalates.
What nutrients are you trying to get from coffee grounds? I would be reluctant to try that, since unfiltered / French press coffee is high in two substances that raise cholesterol levels. So my guess is that those things would be in the grounds at a far more concentrated amount?
@@laurieparis2203 I just have so much swiss chard because several of my plants flowered years back and I have so many volunteer chard plants that decided to grow. For the coffee grounds I just throw them in there because they've been used so they have less caffeine (still a good amount I'm sure that I don't want) as well as a lot of dietary fiber and antioxidants. I searched and have read articles on it too.
@@brandonvanommering6858 hi Brandon! That sure is great when we get volunteers plants! That's how my arugula patch was for years, plus I let them bolt once hot weather arrived, got a nice crop of pretty flowers and seeds for myself, neighbors and friends. Unfortunately we had a sneak hard freeze this fall after unseasonably warm weather, and I'm back to scratch again!
Anyhow, I was really intrigued with your coffee grounds idea, so I did a bit of reading before you supplied your answer! My question was regarding the effects of two diterpenes (cafestrol and kahweol), raising your cholesterol. That's why it's recommended to use a filter, to strain them out. Might not be that important if you are young, but many older folks have high cholesterol issues. These two diterpenes can raise your cholesterol by 26 points.
I would link an article, but UA-cam doesn't like that! But go ahead and Google "coffee cafestrol kahweol" if you're interested in validating the info I've written here. Best of health to you! 🌱
That sounds lovely! How nice of you to give them to friends as well.
Yes I am younger and have had not problems with my cholesterol that I've noticed. I am almost 24 years old and work, exercise, and live a pretty active life with my family in San Diego. I may have to try and plant some arugula among other plants. I will try and research to have a better idea and understanding about effects for my health. Thank you :)
Thank you! Good to know
Kale or collard greens are far lower in oxalates and more nutritious.
Meat is good with greens.
What does a small bowl count as?
I love Dr Greger, but he seems to be contradicting himself from his previous video on the subject. I see the title says “new study” but I don’t see a lot of new evidence in the studies he’s showing in his more recent video. Dr. Goldner points out that meat consumption and dehydration are actually the main culprits for kidney stones and that those who are genetically predisposed will be so regardless of dose (ie could develop them even on lower doses). So I wonder if those of us who have happily been eating massive amounts of raw spinach, chard and beet greens for months or years, avoiding animal products and staying well hydrated, can happily assume this is not an issue for us? I’ll give links below for the two videos mentioned:
Dr. Greger’s earlier contradicting video:
ua-cam.com/video/Wp9O-ehynVI/v-deo.html
Dr. Goldner’s video on the subject:
ua-cam.com/video/LqkG5-rCZFY/v-deo.html
Thank you for sharing. 💎💙👍
Does anyone know if the benefits of spinach for anticancer still work with cooked spinach or is it mostly raw?
Raw
Thank you!
Do you have a LONDON WFPB SOS GROUP I would love to meet up and have a potluck day.
Are they sure it’s not the chemicals and pesticides used
Since this channel is called Plant Based London why are you mentioning Collard greens and Aurugula, which are American terms and so not helpful? I’m pretty sure Arugula is what we in the UK know as rocket but I have no idea what collard greens are.
Yes Rocket and Argula are same Bak Choi is best All the best
So sorry! My audience is mostly American so I have, over the years tweaked my language. Collard greens are spring greens for those of us in the UK and yes arugula is rocket :)
i like soft spinach cooked in salty curry like soup yum
Fresh water filled fruits are the healthiest foods on the planet IMHO 😋
Swiss chard is the same as beet greens.
What about greens high in Thallium? Do we need to have good health insurance before we eat them too or is moderation still the key? I left my keys in the piano so please advise.
ALL greens are toxic.
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 Can you be more specific? Green is toxic to humans or herbivores? Why is it toxic and does the portion size matter?
So how much raw spinach per week is safe?
Thx You ROCK!!
Weird how a "vegan doctor" reports on spinach dangers AFTER being told of its dangers by carnivores.
Hmm ... I cook 1 small plastic box and eat the whole thing with my eggs. I cannot tell if that qualifies for "cups a day" because it does simmer down to a much smaller serving when cooked 🤔🙄 dang I really thought I was being healthy lol.
Dr Neal Barnard & eggs 1egg =5 cigarettes worth of cholesterol 😮
can you just rotate the green you eat?
Good point ! Popeye eats only one serving and that’s sufficient. 😀
If you boil for 12 minutes and discard the water, what is left, newspaper? What does that mean? You go to Costco and can get big bags of spinach. It sure is a shame.
Why spinach I bought at supermarket don't taste like spinach? They taste like cardboard.
ya gre ens dont work for me I get kidney stones.
Are spring greens high in oxilates?
Spring Greens are the UK version of collards
@@PlantBasedScienceLondon so high or low in oxalate? Is there anything that can mitigate oxalate consumption?
I prefer beef liver personally.
#BoycottMeat and all other animal products of cruelty and exploitation in any way possible
Thank you for this very helpful video. It seems that all greens are either goitrogenic which can be a problem for anyone with Thyroid issues or high in oxalates which can cause kidney stones. I like my greens but now I am worried about the consequences of eating them!
Hi Helen, this video on goitrogens may help you :) ua-cam.com/video/T4zA2oBT7h0/v-deo.html
You are wrong. Dr. Esselstyn says to eat 6 greens a day. Did you even listen to Dr. Greger?
@@PlantBasedScienceLondon Thank you, I will take a look at the video.
As long as you have adequate iodine, you don't have to worry about the goitrogens found in crucifers. I've got Hashimoto's and eat lots of leafy greens, with an eye to low oxalate selections like cabbage, romaine, arugula. 🌱
@@laurieparis2203 Hello there and thank you very much for your advice. I also have Hashimoto's and take 75mg of Levothyroxine every day. Can I ask you how you make sure that you have adequate Iodine? Do you add table salt to your meals? Thanks again and wishing you well.
yep oxalates cause an issue! love spinach tho....stinks.
A pound a day?!
Try this recipe folks :
Slice of bread cut a bit thick
No marg/butter , spread bread with cooked black pudding
On top place cooked spinach pressed dry*
On top of spinach place a poached egg
Cover everything with a white sauce
Enjoy
* Never throw away spinach water . Keep to add to stews
I worry abput the oxalates though😔
A pound a day of leafy greens? Sounds like a lot, I could never do that. But I'm probably half Dr. Greger's weight :-).
I know right?! Not sure i could do that either :)
You should try don't you want to look as good as Dr. Greger 🤣🤣
@@granddaddyofthemall6320 I really don't think leafy greens have anything to do with his looks on the outside, but they probably keep his organs looking quite good.
Vivisection gave the world thalidomide.
Oxalate
In the video a cup a day is said then at the end a pound a day is said. I've never eaten a pound a day of any vegetable in my life and that's including multiple vegetables in a days time. At 54 years, 5 foot 3, I weigh 103 lbs and maintain that with about 500 calories a day and have for years (calories are a fraud made up by man anyway). I think if I tried to eat that many veggies I'd feel bloated.
I think Dr Greger is saying that most people eat a cup a day of greens but he advises we aim for a pound a day!
No brainer
Eat brusselspouts
Please researchers, investigate the low oxalate greens in relation to colon cancer in HUMANS! Thank you.
What, randomize a control group with a diet known to cause cancer? Wait, unless they are blindfolded and their taste buds numbed, won't they know what they are eating?
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Spinach is really good for you, but don't eat too much of it 😳🤣
So is water. Drink too much and it can kill you.
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Spinach is man-made.
Spinach (and most vegetables) makes my skin itch like CRAZY!
I’m now 95% carnivore and feeling amazing!
Me too plant-based made me have the worst case of eczema ever.
Noooo.....an English person saying "arugula' instead of "rocket" (or roquette). Just doesn't sound right....
Sorry! Most of my audience are American so I go with the majority :)
This is why the carnivore diet is becoming increasingly popular. People are realizing the toxicity in plants...Meat doesn't cause cancer, but plants can................I've been on a mostly carnivore diet for over a year now and feel amazing! I do have a small handful of almonds with my meat every day though....
Fantastic news! For rats. Now back to actual outcome based data from quality studies in humans please? Enough with the rat story telling.
Lol plant munchers. Dr. Bobblehead says eats your greens. Chomp chomp.
So I was mislead again by a pioneering diet called veganism? Ok duly noted
How is this the fault of veganism? It sounds like you’ve missed the point of the article
Lies
go carnivore no problems
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This is also a fad diet. Neither plant based or carnivore diet are good. Go for omnivore diet.
@@urosrakic6900 Fad🤣🤣🤣
That would explain why Popeye is still alive and kicking.