Should Destiny 2 Items Carry To Destiny 3 Or Be a Fresh Start?
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- Should Destiny 2 Items Carry To Destiny 3 Or Be a Fresh Start?
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In this Destiny 2 podcast episode we’re breaking down all the latest updates from bungie about the final shape and destiny 3. Bungie are turning around the sentiment with a huge new subclass in final shape called prismatic, new exotic class items, new dread enemy type, final shape raid, luke smith talked about the future of destiny 2 and beyond, there are interesting details about destiny 3 leaked on reddit, we discuss how destiny 3 would work, new info about the witness precursors and lots more. #Destiny #Destiny2 #TheFinalShape
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I just really hope that when destiny 3 comes out they don’t spend the first 2 years of the game adding old content back
or releasing Warmind and Osiris level DLCs 😭
You can take my loot away but you can't take my cosmetics away I paid for that shit
Unless D2 gets shut down, they won´t take anything from you. They will just release a NEW game.
Yes they can
Yeah. That's where I'm at.
They can and they will. Best not to buy them.
Honestly I can support this
If the cosmetic exists in D3 also then you shouldn't have to pay twice
But then Bungie wants your money so they will DEFINITELY make you pay twice
Probably an unpopular opinion, but Season of the Splicer is what got me back into to the game after leaving during Shadowkeep. There was nothing else like it in my experience.
Finally someone with taste!
At the time this was a super lukewarm take lol. It was a great season, I can see why it won you back
A fresh Start is desperately needed new wepons n armors exotics new cosmetics n im a D1 Beta player who has bought all expansions n cool stuff so im all for it.
Burn it, burn it all. I want a fresh start 🔥
I would like to keep my emblems. Shader, Transmog/ Ornaments for Armor would be nice but no a must... but I wouldn't "care" about weapons if there are enough alternatives and I don't have to earn all exotics and so on for the third time
Honestly destiny 2 should have been a fresh start the only thing the players wanted was the option to transfer characters not the option to transfer destiny one content into destiny 2😂
would be REALLY cool if somehow there was a fresh start but carrying over ONLY the exact armor and weapons you were wearing when u finished last mission / Boss kill at the very end of Destiny 2.
We gotta have a fresh start. U could always go back and enjoy all those favorites. It will always be in D2. Just like D1. U can still go and enjoy your stuff.
How i would fix destiny 2 at the end with all the cut content, use the reflections as a way to reintroduce the lost. You go to reflections and return to that time in destiny. Replaying red war and everything. Expansions, and seasons. Reflections can do that if retrofitted to do so. Return to the season of the black armory to reintroduce the forges, later choose to go to the drifter season for the raid, etc. Etc.
Consider this: Is a "fresh start" any less morally questionable than "sunsetting"? In a single-player game, starting over isn't a big deal because you can create a new playthrough and still keep your old save file, preserving your accomplishments within the same title. However, in online games starting over isn't always as simple, since creating a new character often doesn't mean a clean slate because much of your progression is tied to the account. So, if you create a sequel to an online game and don't carry over the players stuff, you're essentially negating their hard-earned progress.
Take Destiny 2, for example. If Bungie decided to indeed create Destiny 3 without transferring any of the accomplishments from Destiny 2, it would render players' investments meaningless. Yes, Destiny 2 would still exist, but much like Destiny 1, it would likely go dark and eventually become irrelevant. That’s a much harsher form of sunsetting: where instead of just losing specific weapons or gear and some content, you lose literally everything.
honestly regardless of what bungie do people will complain but....i think they should not let us carry our loot over it would ruin the game in many aspects i also think they should make exotics rare af again but with more meaningful perks i mean destiny 1 loot chase was peak gaming and getting that rare as all hell exotic drop felt like you hit the lottery but they can't really do that if we can just carry over all our existing ones we would just be OP af straight from the get go.
been looking for a fresh start in D3 and I want to fall in love with the Destiny universe again with less baggage of clungy implementation of mechanics of engram, weapon patterns etc, especially material management, consent content cycle of feast and famine for the past 5 years.
5:29-6:31 I completely agree with Byf.
Edit: Seasonal stuff I don't care for though, battlegrounds should be removed. I want to do strikes when I launch the strike playlist.
I don’t like battlegrounds that much either…but compared to strikes they are way better. strikes are cool for the story beats. That’s pretty much it. There’s zero enemy density, they are the easiest content in the game…they’re just not good.
As someone whos been playing destiny since the beta of D1 i want a fresh start so all my friends ive made i want to experience a whole NEW destiny experience with them
I don’t think people are opposed to starting fresh, I think people are opposed to starting fresh knowing they’ll add it all back in. And you’ll have to earn it again. If they make an entire game from scratch then restarting is fine, but we know that half the life of d3 is gonna be adding d2 stuff into it anyway. Which is fine, I just won’t play it, which is fine we can find another game to play.
I agree with Byfs take on this definitely something to consider. All things considered it’s if the Developers can, is it feasible.
Well we all know what happened when d2 released, barely anyone was playing d2 more people were playing d1
Pulled this one right out of your ass didn’t ya?
So... theres a major problem that I noticed with cosmetics carrying over (specifically for warlocks). In D1 gauntlets used to go to the shoulder (which was SO MUCH BETTER) but in D2 they r just gloves... given that D3 apparently has no classes robes/warlock gloves just arent compatable with D1 armour, D2 titan and hunter armour because of that (imo) stupid decision they made. Also D2 titan proportions are just straight up silly sometimes, if u look at some D1 armour that was put into D2 sometimes the D2 female is literally the same size as the D1 male lol.
Sidenote: Id hope D3 is a truely modern game too and that bringing those armour pieces over would look incredibly dated cause of texture quality/resolution, geometry complexity ect. D2 is 7 years old and it REALLY shows now with the lighting, anti aliasing (SMAA and FXAA just look so bad even compared to DLSS which isnt even native which is saying something). Fur/hair is also terribly handled in the game too (actually this is something that is worse in D2 than D1 for some reason, u can actually see that with the ripped raw character models for the Iron Banner armour). One thing D2 does do amazingly compared to even modern day games is pop in, u never see it.
If D3 is meant to last 8-9 years like D2 is going to, and they do require a content sunsetting system again to account for game size inflation they should have a system in place like Halo MCC this time where u pick and choose the content u have downloaded in ur game. E.g. right now I would have the EDZ and Nesus uninstalled, I dont currently go to them ect.
I think a fresh start is needed from the ground up for almost everything.
My issue with destiny is that the gameplay is starting to feel too static. Im hoping prismatic will fix that, but i feel like the game doesnt just need just new content, but things like new animations or new ways to interact with things.
at least armor ornaments should carry over
I’m used to new sequels restarting my progress so I don’t mind
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug, but unless we get a full reset in destiny 3, I want nothing from d1 or d2 in d3. It’s going to be a new game entirely. D2 ran It’s course. Give me new shit!
Which will piss off D1 shills
I would at least like to have the crafted weapons and raid weapons to remain. They are more landmark things really.
Start us back at like 100 light and then build up to to 2000 over the seasons or games
I wouldn’t mide losing my weapons but my drip and eververse items I payed for I want to transfer over
You can take whatever you want. Just don’t take my guardian
Regardless, I would almost rather they return the loot rarity to where it was in D1. Hopping back to D1 every time I got an exotic I was like YOOOOOO, and the same to an extent with legendaries. Nothing feels rare any more and as such when I get a roll of a weapon I like I no longer have a desire to play the Playlist. Give the weapons a smaller perkpool, and up the drop rate of blues while lowering the drop rate of legendaries, that way it still feels good to get that drop you want, even if it's not the roll you want, and each drop actually feels valuable instead of just something to shard cuz it's not 4/5 or 5/5.
Fresh start. 100% fresh start.
Gaze Beyond Worlds is my most rare item in d2 I love it
This video represents me a lot.
I'm down for a fresh start, as long as they bring back removed D2 content. A complete Destiny 2 experience from start to finish, so that we can revisit all the classics and New Lights can experience the past while they work on D3. And as long as D3 has new content instead of rereleases of D2 and D1 stuff I'll be happy.
With how much current loot models destiny relies on, it wont be a fresh start, it will just be a reset to grind it again.
I would have to disagree. Some form of gear retirement has to exist in order to have the game persist as we want it to. I would suggest they look into utilizing their rarity system in conjunction with episodes/expansions to create a soft gear retirement system. The alternative is resetting everything with sequels like we’ve already done. I’m fine with doing either, but the current way is not great.
I can’t wait for armor pieces to be one time use and when you unequip it’s gone forever
@@Deeper489are you ok bro?
I would say, let’s keep everything that’s in our players inventory but not anything in the vault. They need to let go of their weapons. And by inventory I mean the players 9 boxes per item slot on their character.
the entire transmog system should carry over and all you already own
No…it shouldn’t. It will be a new game. I want…wait for it…NEW stuff. I’ll be damned if they waste 80% of their time creating armor models for some stupid season 7 helm that only 200 people care about. You can keep your stuff…it will just be in D2.
JUST GIVE ME MY COSMETICS! Legit, i wanna look good while i grind to be stong. So legit I'm happy to restart, but not having my cosmetics carry over is a different story
A fresh start for sure, unless they will just reissue "fan favorites" 2 years in, then might as well not bother
That's the community fault
If you bring cosmetics back I think they should be locked until after you complete the campaign
Honestly, cosmetics should stay imo. any ornaments for weapons and armor that have been paid for, earned, or transmogged should be account specific. even after d3 comes out, i don't see why it'd be a problem for them to continue to let people go back to d1/2 to earn the items, and for it to carry over to d3 after the fact. no "cut off date" or anything like that either :p
this would also fix the want for d1 armor to return. give us a way to go back to d1, earn/buy eveverse packs for silver dust and any of the armor from the silver dust engrams/anything earned could be transmogged for 3. imagine the fashion potential. plus would keep the old games alive if it transferred to the newest game at any point. literal unlimited grind and income potential on their end, all it would take is some love put back into their franchise as a whole
on the topic of seasonal stuff, i wish so badly they'd implement a way for us to go back. whether it be optional downloaded content, or a "legacy edition" or d2 that has the old stuff included, i miss it, and would loooove to see it come back
Out of context ive never seen byf on camera, i mostly listen while i work..... but i called he would have brown curly hair and glasses for some reason.
Please let me keep my skimmer lol
At least let us keep ghosts or armor cosmetics, including Transmog armor that we worked for
I love you byf…but if leaving the vaulted content vaulted means D3 comes out sooner…keep it in the vault.
fresh start with ton of content
If we are getting a D3 and it doesn’t carry over does grinding anything even matter from now till then?
It's a video game. One day Bungie will stop supporting D2, so does grinding anything even matter if the servers will go offline one day?
You play because it's fun. Not because you need to have the best gear. If you play a game for gear and not because playing the game is fun then you seriously need to reevaluate your priorities.
Bro what?!? Do you even understand the concept of a looter game??
@@chrisn3819 The gear chase is fun. I understand that, I've been playing looter shooters since borderlands 1 and playing Destiny since D1 beta. But if the only reason you play is to have the gear and not the fun of chasing the gear. Then there's no point in playing because one day the game will go offline and it will have been for nothing.
Ever heard the phrase "it's about the journey, not the destination"?
@@VTZ3R0 you’re contradicting yourself. The essence of your original statement was;
“what’s the point of grinding gear if we don’t keep it”
the point is obviously acquiring the gear.
But then you just said it’s about the journey not the end. The journey = looting. I’m not the one that wants us to keep everything. I want the vault burned to the ground. Shit I don’t even want my characters. Give me a prequel where we can play as war lords or some iron faction. Or do a game in the future where the traveler blesses the eliksni and you can chose them as a character. Involve the nine more in the main story. And for god sakes give us a proper Vex storyline.
@@chrisn3819 @chrisn3819 it seems that you grossly misunderstood my point. My original comment wasn't even directed at you, It was directed at anybody who takes this nihilistic approach to the game if d3 comes out. "Whats the point of doing anything if I'm just going to for die one day". Maybe be less of a jackass and don't put words in my mouth.
just carry over all our eververse and ghosts and ships sparrows shaders all the things that don't give any actual advantages its that easy and makes sense
Completely fresh start with completely new items
Destiny 2 is merely an extension of Destiny 1. Sharing content, locations, loot and characters. Only you are just expected to grind for those same things all over again in a slightly different way. Well, that is what Destiny 3 will be as well. So, the decision must be made. Do you want to ride all the same rides and maybe one or two new ones in the same amusement park just in a different place? Up to you.!
Fresh start for sure
Fresh start on weapons, but keep cosmetics or at least the paid cosmetics.
Just keep the cosmetic stuff
If they do that than how can bungie sell us shit we already had?
Cosmetics yes, it isnt a debate
I want I a fresh start if I'm real
Leave it all behind, but keep D2 live for ppl to play. Same way D1 has been live. Granted, this might mean D1 will shutdown, but it's been a hot minute. Support isn't infinite, and games shouldn't be expected to be either.
A fresh start isnt gonna fix it for you. Itll take all of two days to a week for people to get random op stuff again.
Sage.
Fresh 100%!
100% gonna be fresh. d2 will still be there
Keep it or im done
Good…see ya later…why even play a looter game in the first place? If you want a collection hobby go collect stamps.
@@chrisn3819someone’s an asshole
i personally think destiny 2 is way too oversaturated to make a 3rd game that will appease everyone. i think theyve really got themselves in a bind here where theres almost nothing they could do with destiny 3 that would warrant all of us paying for it again while retaining all the stuff we had in D2. at some point you can only change the game so much. like i just dont see Bungie actually coming up with a creative way to make a completely new game and calling it destiny 3. cause if they pull the same BS move they did with D2 bascially taking everything good out of D1 and making us pay them to put it back in thats completely unacceptable. and its gotten to the point where so many people have spent so much money across 6 years of destiny 2 on all the content theyve put in that for them to push through to a new game and leave D2 behind is just unreal. weve gotten the same style of content out of bungie for nearly 4 years now and i just cant see them finding a way to make something new and creative. yeah prismatic is cool but it just such a lateral move. like thats how it should have been from the start honestly. the people who complain about stuff like that are the people who only play PVP and dont appreciate destiny for what it actually is. they have such an unlimited amount of possibilities when it comes to destiny 2 and they mismanaged tf out of it. i could think of 20 new ideas for this game and so could the rest of the community but they continue to just reuse old weapons and make useless weapon perks and add the same style of seasonal conent and progression and remaster old raids instead of building new ones. they couldnt even give us exotic armor with this latest season or even into the light. i personally think they should actually talk to the community and ask for the best ideas from them on what to make of this game cause there are so many people with infinitely better ideas than their teams rn. the community has 1000x more hours combined than anyone at bungie and it shows so frequently. they need to talk to us
D3 better be 60$ with cheap dlc like D1 super annoying I paid for D2 for it to be free and then charge essentially a full priced game per dlc.
Paid content? Nah, that’s a rental. When they shutdown the servers, it’s gone, that’s how live service non-hard-copy games work 😂 to think content vaulting didn’t spell that out for a lot of you is crazy.
D1 isn't shutdown so
Depends on a few things.
1. Engine used. New engine could make it difficult to transfer over items.
2. What is d3 setting?
3. If we cant transfer stuff. Add the majority of the stuff into d3 and make it easy to get.
Why even play a looting game then?? Only in this community do people talk about this…diablo community doesn’t, borderlands doesn’t, division doesn’t, shit in path of exile people start from scratch every damn season and they love it…imagine that.
@@chrisn3819 lmao, probably you are the ones that didnt like sunsetting, and now is asking for a D3, wtf lmao
@@toddynhodocinho6576 oh hell no...I am Mr. Sunset...I want the chase...the hell with having the same stale meta for 12-18-24 months. D3 would be a brand new everything. Burn my vault...I'll fill another one.
@@chrisn3819 Delete your things and grab them again
No is the answer
As everyone else is saying keep cosmetics we've all spent alot of money for them
If they don't let us keep the cosmetics, they should at least let players have an equivalent amount of the premium currency. At the end of the day, it only ever gets used for cosmetics and nothing that has an in-game effect, so that's the *least* they could do
You can keep your cosmetics. They will continue to be in Destiny 2. I don’t want them wasting time developing old stuff. I want new stuff. If you want to play with your old stuff just keep playing D2.
Cosmetics should stay, the weapons and armor rolls shouldnt carry over. Simple as that
D2 is basically a big FOMO game
You had to be there to know
If not...
And then the lore becomes confusing without people like lore dad archiving this stuff
The thing I want most from Destiny 3 is for them to drop this goofy "hybrid free to play" model they have now. It has caused nothing but problems. Destiny is not a free to play game. It doesn't even make sense for what this game is supposed to be. How do I "Become Legend" if you can just buy the coolest shit in a store?
it doesernt matter they will bring it back anyway 8th re issue hung jury
The way bungie fumbled destiny 1 and 2. I don't trust them with a third.
close down eververse and put more work into the actual game instead
If they don't carry over every relevant item to d3, what even is the point? Otherwise they will add everything back slowly and call it "returning fan favorites" and I'm fed up with that. Especially If we are still playing as "the guardian".
These guys have a very privileged place in the game and you can tell by how they talk. Losing everything in they got D2 doesn’t mean jack shit to them because they have Legions of Fans who will help them get everything in D3 the second it drops. When the new Final Shape Raid comes out, they will have 30 Clears by day 2, I will have 0 or 1. I actually had to put in effort into getting my gear with subpar rude random-match teammates, so honestly I’m not very thrilled at the idea of losing everything once again. If D3 happens and it’s a reset then I’m quitting the Franchise.
This dude plays and watch mid guys
@@lazyvoid7107 English mfer, do you speak it?
Sounds like someone doesn't have any friends and blames it on everyone else.
@@lazyvoid7107 wtf does that even mean
@@CoolCoolYams at least i don’t believe in Zodiac signs :/
Yes! Stuff should transfer over from D2 into D3 if it happens! Bungie has the tech to make it happen! Any weapon right now that isn't currently sunset should not be sunset by the prospect of Destiny 3.
The only reason I'd give Bungie carte blanch to sunset our gear is if....and that is a big IF we get a weapons and armor 4.0, or they switch to an entirely different engine to run Destiny 3. Other than that, I will be pissed off if they get rid of my gear in the new game AGAIN.
Why do you even play a looter shooter then? Like what’s the point?
@@chrisn3819 I don't really play Destiny for the loot at this point. The loot is secondary for me (unless you count my auto rifle collection, yes I'm a weirdo), I play Destiny for the story and lore. Which I am very fuckin aware that that isn't the main driving force behind Destiny but thats the main reason I play. That and to have a good time with my buddies and because the gunplay is fun.
Outside of Destiny, I don't play looter shooters. I briefly flirted with both Warframe and The Division and said no thank you cuz they were boring in comparison.
@@chaoschaoforever ok that’s fair. I love the lore too. But like…what if D3 was a prequel or something? Or way into the future? Idk I just don’t understand why anyone would want to cheat themselves out of the feeling of finding cool shit. It’s like asking for someone to pre chew your meals for you.
@@chrisn3819 If the game was a prequel, then I would completely understand the loot reset. As for far in the future.....ehhhh....not a completely valid excuse buuuuut I guess....
Personally I think all armors and cosmetics should carry over. Sparrows, Ghost Shells, Ships, and Emotes all carry over. Weapons shouldn't be brought over, regrind those. Subclasses should not exist, everything should be Prismatic with a mix of old and new supers and abilities. D3 really needs a massive amount of new content for it to not just be "more Destiny with a bigger price tag", and I want to place a heavy emphasis on a switch of cosmetics from the Shader system to limited color palettes like Warframe, where you can customize your character with color swatches that you can earn and/or pay for, and you have full control over how your character looks. We have too many shaders that have either 1 or 2 colors that don't look good together and because we don't get to see the full list of colors in the shader that applies per material we have to just get the shader to be able to figure out that it looks terrible.
Weapons and Exotics can probably have a couple of reused introductions like the Khvostov and Traveler's Chosen, but for the most part the only things being returned should be the ones that are either representative of Destiny as a whole or the ones that are nostalgic for everyone, like the Khvostov or Traveler's Chosen being the first weapons that we got when we made our characters.
On an unrelated note I would prefer to see an update to character creation and customization. Like I made my Exo Hunter in D1 at launch, it doesn't look too great, and D2 added a few customization options to characters that I didn't get to put on my first and really only character because Bungie decided it was "too broken" to allow more than 1 character of each class to get rewards per week. I'd like to be able to change the look of my character freely for D3 and on top of that I'd like to see the evolution of character customization beyond just "Put a helmet on them and that's your look". Give us the ability to change the relative build of our characters, we don't need anything crazy like an RPG would give, but it should at least be something more than what we currently have.
You Mia understand prismatic at its core
Huh??? This is all over the place. Are you telling me the game doesn’t have builds? Or do you mean cosmetic? Which btw…you can now change. When’s the last time you logged in?
Fresh start
Absolutely fresh start. Keep D2 in maintenance mode with as much content as possible so people can go through whole D2 story and so people can still enjoy their Eververse shit they care so much about. But D3 should be fresh start on every level.
Sorry but you will more than likely not be able to carry over. Just rip that hopium bandage off now.
It’s not even hopium…it’s colossal stupidity. Like why would anyone ever want to play a new looter game in which all the looting was already done for them. This is such a dumb sentiment. (Idk where you stand on it…but people that want to keep “their stuff” infuriate me).
It's crazy to me that Destiny loot has literally no broad, long term value, as most of it keeps getting power crept, it can't be traded, even the stuff you've invested materials and glimmer into to "progress" has other similar BETTER versions of it, and it has zero use outside of "am I using this, am I not using this"...and yet, this community STILL takes this "I don't wanna lose my dearest dearest items that I wOrKeD sO hArD tO gEt, mUh pRoGrEsSiOn" attitude, like...
Get some perspective. I understand people cling to the game being a "looter shooter," but trust me...LOOT is kinda the worst part of Destiny. Not saying guns aren't neat and gear isn't fun to equip, but loot, as a reward, as a gameplay motivator, is SO hollow, in the larger scheme of the gameplay being interesting, the world building being on point, the narrative evoking emotion and stakes, ya know...the IMPORTANT things.
HALO never had this "muh progression" problem. You did the campaign, then you lived in PvP. In my view, if Destiny 3 is real, it needs to basically ditch loot altogether. If they keep it a "looter", it needs to go 10x as hard, with more gear slots, more inventory, more vault space, more skill trees, more everything. Lean hard into it being a hardcore RPG shooter.
Otherwise, just ditch loot. Make it the spiritual successor to Halo Destiny should've been from day 1. Give it real substance, vs repetitive live service crud it continues to try and be.
Sounds like you need to play more halo than Destiny. Or any other game in which progression is an afterthought. They chose to leave halo behind so they could do a game with deep progression. If that’s not your bag that’s fine…but that progression is why most players (myself included) love this game.
Also…what do you mean “loot has no long term value”…lots of games like Destiny don’t have trading. what value is there supposed to be outside of the value of shooting an alien in the face?
@@chrisn3819 The "progression" you love so much about Destiny is entirely artificial, tacked on, and Bungie has largely bungled its balance and development for 10 years. They've proven it's mostly unnecessary. "I need to play more Halo." I mean, I've played the first two, long after they were the hit thing, and it was immediately clear to me WHY people wanted Destiny and WHY most of what Destiny is is, again, entirely unnecessary. Like, reread my comment...Halo is a classic FPS not because of tacked on "rpg progression." It's a classic because of core combat quality (something that Destiny has seen deteriorate, but I'm sure you haven't noticed) and a strong narrative with well written characters and deep lore. Destiny's LORE has always trumped its in-game narrative, and 10 years in, that hasn't changed. Not for a single moment. Halo had good real time narrative, something Destiny...has basically abandoned in favor of drip fed seasonal crap, that most everyone wants to see changed drastically.
Also...Destiny's progression is AAAAAAANYTHING but "deep," my guy. I've played enough of it. I've seen recent changes. It's ALL hollow and empty and face value.
As for "long term value"...loot can ALWAYS have value to other players, for a variety of reasons. Quick question...if you get a god roll...then luckily, you get another one, that only breaks down to a few scant materials, what's that amazing luck worth to you then? Why should I bother ever feeling good about getting lucky enough to hope for another god roll I already have? If I could trade that second god roll to someone who doesn't have it...someone who may not have time to farm 20 hours a day like some people...and that person can give me materials, upgrade resources, currency (premium or otherwise)...I'd love to know why that's "bad." You instantly take a game full of loot rewards and extend their usefulness beyond just "welp, my collection's done."
But sure, I need to "play more Destiny." Nah, man. I play better games, with far more meaningful content. Destiny is a waste of time and money for anyone masochistic enough to stick with it.
@@chrisn3819Don't listen to him. RedShadow is a Warframe white knight twitter user who goes around trashing Destiny on anything with bad takes like this comment he made like two days ago.
@@RedShadowOfSaturnJust telling you clown that some Warframe content creators say Destiny have pros that Warframe don't have
@@lazyvoid7107 Some, sure. PvP for example, way more Destiny players play PvP...even though every time I see Crucible clips, it looks like "first person Conclave," but details details, amirite? The vast majority of things Destiny players beg for, Bungie to do, Warframe has done for years. That's indisputable.
Call my opinions "Twitter bad takes" all you like. I've watched Destiny content creators beg for Warframe's biggest selling points for years, and none of them make the switch, or even try it out. It's sad, at this point, knowing Bungie deploys "wearelistening.exe" and all the players yip and skip and are desperate to proclaim "we are so back."
Also, thank you for not addressing anything I said. Really makes your stance on the matter worth a damn. Mmmhmm.