Glad you've pointed out that on single phase this (and all) EVSE would be limited to ~7kw, for the full fat 22kw you need three phase. I think that gets overlooked in some of the other reviews of the unit I've seen. That said, I'm not sure why you would buy this specific charger unless you had a Fronius inverter as there are much cheaper portable 32a EVSE units if it's the portability aspect you're after. The main selling point of this charger I believe is PV-only charging and you need to weigh up if that's worth it to you. Personally, yes, as I have 12kw of solar and most goes to waste. Pretty much any EV can do time of day/tariff charging straight from your wall plug, you don't need "smart" EVSE for that.
Thanks for the video! One optimisation I'd suggest, is a 5-pin socket can be installed (in place of 3-pin socket) with only one phase, neutral and ground pins connected. And save on additional (5-to-3 pin) adapter, making it redundant. Of course, you would have to know which pin the single phase needs to be wired to for this charger.
Hi Oleg, thanks for watching. Yes I thought of that and looked into it but the local electricity/network providers don't allow it so didn't want to risk home insurance coverage if something happened down the track. A public UA-cam channel showing something not legal would also not be a good look! As an FYI - phase pin 1 is the single phase live for the EVSE.
@@ElectricCarAustralia I'm in NSW and a local electrician installed one for me to use with a 5-pin tail for Testa UMC. Perhaps rules are different in QLD. By the way, Pin1 is the pin used for Tesla UMC as well. Kind regards.
Yes, rules are different in the SE corner of Qld. Energex our energy distribution company has a couple of weird ides which I don't believe are found anywhere else in the country.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Hi! Viewer from Europe. :) Does this mean in case of 3 phase it can't select the phase with the highest excess power for a single phase charging? In my case I have a 6kWp system which is distributed on the 3 phases evenly (if I understand it correctly) but the 3 phases have different loads so the available excess solar power is changing all the time depending on the load usage in the house. It would be nice if it could select the best phase for a single phase charging... but I guess it could be a limitation on the car side if the actual charger is not able to take single phase on the other pins. (Now that I think about it the EVSE could redirect power to pin 1 in that case from any phases) Thanks for the detailed video!
Hi mate. I have a set of front seat covers for the ZS EV that I never ended up fitting to our zs ev. You can have them free if you want them. We are located at Summerholm in the locker Valley. You might remember me from the Toowoomba ev display a year or two ago.
@@moellerseo Thanks for watching. You could do it with the Fronius setup you just need to install the Fronius smart meter to read the excess solar. Or you could go with a Zappi which uses a CT clamp to measure. Have a chat to Arran from ReGen EV. Cheers
Hi Ador, thanks for watching and the question. Any Fronius Solar PV/Inverter Installer can supply them. Alternatively give you local EV Charger installer a call or do a quick Google search, there are a couple resellers selling them online. Cheers
Great demo, thanks. I hate it when manufacturers of these apps insist on serving you information when the Internet is connected. Why not just feed the info directly bypassing the Internet - just using your local wifi. All the hardware is there to do that but they want to have you by the short and curlies. Disgusting practise.
Great video, Thank you so much! I have a question. I have 6.6kw solar system and 5kw sungrow inverter, is it worth buying home charger or just use granny charger as my solar exports is around 2-3.5kw when water heater is not consuming. Car is MG EV (44kw). Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Hi, thanks for watching and the comment. Really depends on your driving needs and how quick you want to charge. But if only doing low kms and the main game is using solar I would suggest just a 10 or 15amp granny charger, but keep in mind you need to manually control it. Smart chargers are great but in your case probably not going to give payback on the cost of the charger. Cheers
Can a home owner (with or without Fronius inverters) commission the unit themselves? If you made a 15amp tail what is stopping it trying to draw more than 15amps? ( Other than the circuit breaker on the 15amp circuit)
Hi spuddy, thanks for watching and the Support. Yes you can set it up yourself via the App and the specific unit details which come on a card (looks like a plastic credit card) with the unit. I believe the unit auto detects the available current so no mater what the setting it won't pull more than the circuit. Having said that I haven't tested so might be worth check with Fronius or an installer first.
. @ElectricCarAustralia There's no such thing as detecting current available, as it's like measuring the flow of a river when it's stopped by a dam. The current can only be measured when it's flowing. Also fitting a 15 AMP plug is illegal, it must be 32A plug and socket for this device. A 15A adapter must have a rated breaker installed before the wall plug as the cabling is protected by the breaker.
If I use the Wattpilot Go22 on single phase supply, can my type 2 - type 2 cable be a single phase one? Ie I don't need to be using a heavier 3-phase cable. (My car is limited to 7kW)
In respect to a single fronius unit in a 3 phase home: in combination with a Fronius smart meter, can the unit monitor which phases in the home are in use and draw current from the least used phases, thus helping to balance loads between phases?
Good question! Not sure on that one and I don't have 3 phase to test unfortunately. Fronius Aust are very responsive so I would flick them an email and ask. Cheers.
Thanks!
Glad you've pointed out that on single phase this (and all) EVSE would be limited to ~7kw, for the full fat 22kw you need three phase. I think that gets overlooked in some of the other reviews of the unit I've seen. That said, I'm not sure why you would buy this specific charger unless you had a Fronius inverter as there are much cheaper portable 32a EVSE units if it's the portability aspect you're after. The main selling point of this charger I believe is PV-only charging and you need to weigh up if that's worth it to you. Personally, yes, as I have 12kw of solar and most goes to waste.
Pretty much any EV can do time of day/tariff charging straight from your wall plug, you don't need "smart" EVSE for that.
That phase shifting is amazing, great video
Hi Jamie, thanks for watching and the comment.
Great demo, really detailed. Thanks
Very welcome
The portability and 7-22kW range looks very handy.
It is :)
Thanks for the video!
One optimisation I'd suggest, is a 5-pin socket can be installed (in place of 3-pin socket) with only one phase, neutral and ground pins connected. And save on additional (5-to-3 pin) adapter, making it redundant.
Of course, you would have to know which pin the single phase needs to be wired to for this charger.
Hi Oleg, thanks for watching. Yes I thought of that and looked into it but the local electricity/network providers don't allow it so didn't want to risk home insurance coverage if something happened down the track. A public UA-cam channel showing something not legal would also not be a good look!
As an FYI - phase pin 1 is the single phase live for the EVSE.
@@ElectricCarAustralia I'm in NSW and a local electrician installed one for me to use with a 5-pin tail for Testa UMC. Perhaps rules are different in QLD. By the way, Pin1 is the pin used for Tesla UMC as well. Kind regards.
Yes, rules are different in the SE corner of Qld. Energex our energy distribution company has a couple of weird ides which I don't believe are found anywhere else in the country.
@@ElectricCarAustralia Hi! Viewer from Europe. :) Does this mean in case of 3 phase it can't select the phase with the highest excess power for a single phase charging? In my case I have a 6kWp system which is distributed on the 3 phases evenly (if I understand it correctly) but the 3 phases have different loads so the available excess solar power is changing all the time depending on the load usage in the house. It would be nice if it could select the best phase for a single phase charging... but I guess it could be a limitation on the car side if the actual charger is not able to take single phase on the other pins. (Now that I think about it the EVSE could redirect power to pin 1 in that case from any phases) Thanks for the detailed video!
@@Bhaalint Sorry can't answer that one. Reach out to Fronius, they are good with Cust service. Thanks for watching.
Hi mate. I have a set of front seat covers for the ZS EV that I never ended up fitting to our zs ev. You can have them free if you want them. We are located at Summerholm in the locker Valley. You might remember me from the Toowoomba ev display a year or two ago.
Thanks for the offer. I will get back in touch when I can get out your way. Cheers 👍
@@ElectricCarAustralia just google Naughty Goat Farm for my mobile number.
Great demo.Just letting you know OBD Link no longer works on MG ZS EV . Cheers.
Thanks for watching Gary and link note.
Hi mate, thanks for the video. Any recommendation how to achieve solar charging with a Huawei sun2000 inverter?
@@moellerseo Thanks for watching. You could do it with the Fronius setup you just need to install the Fronius smart meter to read the excess solar.
Or you could go with a Zappi which uses a CT clamp to measure. Have a chat to Arran from ReGen EV. Cheers
Its a great work Greg! BTW, where can I purchase this Watt Pilot GO charger? Thanks
Hi Ador, thanks for watching and the question. Any Fronius Solar PV/Inverter Installer can supply them. Alternatively give you local EV Charger installer a call or do a quick Google search, there are a couple resellers selling them online. Cheers
Great demo, thanks.
I hate it when manufacturers of these apps insist on serving you information when the Internet is connected. Why not just feed the info directly bypassing the Internet - just using your local wifi. All the hardware is there to do that but they want to have you by the short and curlies. Disgusting practise.
Hi Ben, yes some functionality is via wifi but other internet. Certainly something to be aware of. Thanks for watching and the comment. Cheers.
Hi Can you please tell me where you purchased the covers for your inverter i like the look of it.
Checkout my other videos. I done an interview with them when installing my second one for my EV Charger. Cheers
Great vid. Can l ask what size solar system you have. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for watching. I have 2 separate PV systems. Grid connected 10 kw and 4kw off grid system with lead acid batteries. Cheers
Great video, Thank you so much! I have a question. I have 6.6kw solar system and 5kw sungrow inverter, is it worth buying home charger or just use granny charger as my solar exports is around 2-3.5kw when water heater is not consuming. Car is MG EV (44kw). Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Hi, thanks for watching and the comment. Really depends on your driving needs and how quick you want to charge. But if only doing low kms and the main game is using solar I would suggest just a 10 or 15amp granny charger, but keep in mind you need to manually control it. Smart chargers are great but in your case probably not going to give payback on the cost of the charger. Cheers
Can a home owner (with or without Fronius inverters) commission the unit themselves?
If you made a 15amp tail what is stopping it trying to draw more than 15amps? ( Other than the circuit breaker on the 15amp circuit)
Hi spuddy, thanks for watching and the Support. Yes you can set it up yourself via the App and the specific unit details which come on a card (looks like a plastic credit card) with the unit.
I believe the unit auto detects the available current so no mater what the setting it won't pull more than the circuit. Having said that I haven't tested so might be worth check with Fronius or an installer first.
. @ElectricCarAustralia There's no such thing as detecting current available, as it's like measuring the flow of a river when it's stopped by a dam. The current can only be measured when it's flowing. Also fitting a 15 AMP plug is illegal, it must be 32A plug and socket for this device. A 15A adapter must have a rated breaker installed before the wall plug as the cabling is protected by the breaker.
If I use the Wattpilot Go22 on single phase supply, can my type 2 - type 2 cable be a single phase one? Ie I don't need to be using a heavier 3-phase cable. (My car is limited to 7kW)
Yes, you can use either cable. The Wattpilot auto detects cable capacity and limits current.
tnanks@@ElectricCarAustralia
You're one day late. Had you posted this on April fool's day, you could have hung corks on your hat for maximum Aussie.
Cheers!
Good idea Dima! I will remember that one for next year.
In respect to a single fronius unit in a 3 phase home: in combination with a Fronius smart meter, can the unit monitor which phases in the home are in use and draw current from the least used phases, thus helping to balance loads between phases?
Good question! Not sure on that one and I don't have 3 phase to test unfortunately. Fronius Aust are very responsive so I would flick them an email and ask. Cheers.
Mick if you ever got an answer to this I’d be interested to know. Cheers
God-47 minutes---the last one I chopped short was shorter than this.
Thanks for the comment Vicking. That's the great thing about YT, you can watch as much or little as you like. Self serve EV info!!