In this video, the BMW i5 stats are for a car with smaller wheels. The claimed range for this car is 328 miles which means it reached 90% of its claimed range. We are sorry for making this error.
Claimed and actual range in KM, sorted by % of claimed range achieved. Merc EQE Claimed: 611,55 km. Actual: 574,54 km. Percentage of claimed: 94 % Model 3 Claimed: 627,62 km. Actual: 566,56 km. Percentage of claimed: 90 % BYD Seal Claimed: 569,67 km. Actual: 498,95 km. Percentage of claimed: 88 % Taycan Claimed: 677,53 km. Actual: 592,15 km. Percentage of claimed: 87 % Polestar 2 Claimed: 653,33 km. Actual: 534,99 km. Percentage of claimed: 82 % BMW i5 Claimed: 582,98 km. Actual: 476,96 km. Percentage of claimed: 82 %
CLAIMED RANGE OF THE CARS IN KILOMETRES: 1. Porsche Taycan: 678km (421 miles) 2. Polestar 2 Long Range: 653km (406 miles) 3. Tesla Model 3 Long Range: 628km (390 miles) 4. Mercedes EQE: 612km (380 miles) 5. BMW i5: 583km (362 miles) 6. BYD Seal: 570km (354 miles)
In China a BYD Seal costs around £25000, I would say it’s probably the best price to performance on the list. If the EU law for Chinese EV price gets overturned then we could potentially get very cheap EVs in the UK
it boggles the mind that after decades of educational campaigns telling drivers to take their eyes off screens to prevent accidents, automakers are even allowed to cram every single control into one single screen that demands even more attention than a cellphone. how is this legal?
Because it is also legal to grill hamburgers in the passenger seat while driving. I don't know of any law that says you can't have an electric grill in the passenger seat or do any cooking while driving. That's the crazy thing about cell phones: Before cell phones, the law only required that you pay attention, but unless you had an accident, it was almost impossible to prove that you were not paying attention. Today, it is illegal to use a cell phone in most parts of the world, but even if you never look at the screen - after all, cell phones can now be completely voice-controlled - just holding it in your hand is a problem that makes no sense, because just holding it to your ear does not make you any less attentive to the road.
good question, when it serves the right politic it s ok, for the other don t look at your cellphone but on these technical wonders you can watch even porn
Yeah, a shitty German electric car at a cost of 2 houses outside the city or 1 in the city in my country. I just feel sorry for anyone who buys it in the end 😢
They just absolutely overslept the start of ev‘s and are stuck in the early adopter phase like mercedes was like 4-6 years ago. German car companies totally forgot to get ready in the ev space … bmw being the most stubbern 😅 Thats why they charge horrendous prices for shit performance and probably shit quality as well.
2nd hand prices after 2-3 years (BMW included) will be the shock, its only worth doing as PCP/Leasing of these things. A friend of mine had his Tesla Model S for around 35 months and the instruments cluster, and a CPU controller failed, Telsa quoted it needed to be replace. It was covered under warranty but without it, Tesla said it would cost..... £2,500 including labour and full diagnostics. The parts are c£1.5k, but even a reasonable car mechanic can't do the work for legal reasons in the EU now. They said in a few years the parts would be close to c£2K plus. BMW/Merc have the highest parts prices in EU, hate to think what that would cost!. BMW is the nicest model there (possibly) but parts, insurance etc wow. I hope 10 Years warranty for £93K is included.
Not Really, if I was not paying attention I would potentially think the Porsche is the car that can go the longest, as people are only really intersted in how far cars can go, and then they will state that the cost of the Taycan puts such cars out of the reach of your average purchaser., Ever since my first EV in 2013, I 've said 3.5m per Kw/h normal driving with a bit of fun, (can go lower), and 4m per Kwh if you are being sensible, but at all times with AirCon and heating etc and not being afraid to use the car as a car and not try and save battery capactiy. However Taycan has the largest battery pack , and some 2WD and 4WD in the mix which is not taken into account. I was surprised at the Tesla with the lowest battery capacity to come in where it did, I would have thought the Polestar would have beaten it. I have driven the following EV's and not a the same time, as bought my first Leaf in 2013....: Nissan Leaf (4yrs) [2013 and 2016 Model Years] Polestar (2 months and thought it basically did what it said on the tin) Tesla M3 Peformance (2 Months,) Taycan 4S (4 Months) Model S (5yrs) I've stuck with the Model S the longest as it's a fantastic car, it might not have the build quality of the German Cars, and to be fair, if it wasn't for the 1st world problems of the TayCan I would be driving a TayCan right now as it is very much a drivers car, but the Model S, is the best comprimise for me :) I would love to see a comparison of the Smaller Cars, Nissan Leaf, Vauxhall Corsa, Fiat 500 etc as that would be more enlightening I think, so perhaps a future episode ;-)
Actually I agree on the Weather, road and wind conditions, just not the way the results were presented, as slightly misleading due to different battery pack sizes
"There should be a law against this sh*t" I've been saying that for years! A driver should not Have To "find" essential buttons while driving. And airco is essential!
@@TheTruthKiwi 100% agree. I can't imagine this will last long. I drove one of these for the first time and fiddling around for heating controls whilst using navigation was a mess. Horrible experience.
I work at durham services, can confirm the new chargers are ready and working, those 2 gridserve ones were absolutely shit and would break all the time, the hotel ones being ac only makes sense because overnight charging for hotel guests
The fact that you cannot change the direction of the airflow via the vents on some of these cars, but have to go into the infotainment screen to do so is nothing short of lunacy! Cannot understand how that was signed off. Absolutely ridiculous
Tesla's efficiency in their motor & drag coefficient is incredible. Filling up a 78Kwh battery takes much less time compared to 100 Kwh battery on a Mercedes or Porsche, yet you can still get ~350 miles
@@SereneSounds4KModel S has close to 100 Kwh battery & goes over 400 miles But honestly no human can really go more than 200 or 250 max miles at a stretch without needing a break
I went into this video thinking i was gonna skip most of it. I actually enjoyed every second. Goo running commentary and very informative as well as being a road trip. Thanks
I've done a lot of supercharging in Europe and some are covered, often with a solar array. That said, a decent charge can easily take ~20min, and there's usually facilities nearby, so you plug it in and get a cup of tea. Pumps these days are different, I don't know about the UK, but most pumps in Europe don't "lock" anymore (I think there was some law against it, not sure), so you're forced standing there like a teapot for a couple minutes, then a bit of a roof is nice to have.
With Tesla’s massive efficiency lead, if they only put bigger batteries in their cars they could easily have the longest range. But Elon argues 350-400 miles real world range is more than enough. Then you need a break at a supercharger anyway. So they’d rather make the cars lighter and cheaper. 🤷🏻♂️ P.S.: I’m not hating on Tesla, in fact they seem to be striking a good balance. Just making an observation.
I have no issues with that but at least give the option of a higher battery. It is not normal that other manufacturer provide 85 to 100kW batteries and Tesla give only 75 for the LR. That's a bit like what Apple does. The issue with smaller batteries is that they are more prone to aging. Smaller batteries lose % faster than larger batteries.
They already have massive quality problems with their suspension parts. They would just collapse with heavier batteries. Tesla model 3 has the lowest realiability of any car in Europe. The "efficiency" is mainly due to these sort of savings that make the cars lighter than the competition (and are ironically sold as minimalist as an explanation for e.g. why you don't get a screen in front of you). But this sort of cheap construction also means they won't last very long. They are designed like mobile phones - 3 years and you should buy a new one. That's why you can buy the old ones almost for free.
Things are improving. I had an original Taycan Cross Turismo 4S and at most would get 210 miles, and in the winter no more than 190. I sold it as it wasn't good enough. 368 miles is a game changer though.
Why did people buy non-Tesla EV's in the past ten years? It was undisputable the best. And its still the safest car on the road, since the first thing their engineers do is make the car as safe as possible, only after that will they design the rest of the car.
There is another important factor that is difficult to rank because it's just done in software. It is "How hard does the car push its batteries?" The harder it pushes them the more range you will get for the same battery weight but the faster the battery capacity will degrade over time. eg, One car might decide the battery is 100% full at a cell voltage is 4.15V, while another car might charge to 4.20V and therefore get more energy into its calls and more range at the cost of battery longevity.
@@SAMK6IX7EVEN it's not that tough to begin with. driving sections of each car, introduction, charging infrastructure, things like that. haven't seen the full video because of it's sheer size. will see it in bits and pieces.
"The Polestar is supposed to be a built from the ground up electric car, so why does it have a transmission tunnel" - er, well it is actually built on the Volvo XC40 chassis, and the XC40 comes (came?) in petrol and hybrid variants as well, hence the transmission tunnel 😉
To be a bit pedantic, the Polestar 2 was built on the CMA platform owned by Geely, but developed in Sweden but neither by Volvo nor Polestar. The first car to be released on the CMA platform was indeed the Volvo XC40. For this reason, some of the less thorough motor journalists claim that the platform was developed by Volvo, but it was in fact ZEEKR (formerly China Euro Vehicle Technology). The CMA platform was designed to be "drivetrain agnostic", which one could pessimistically argue leaves it with all the disadvantages of every single drivetrain it needs to support. Visually, this is most easily seen with the transmission tunnel.
16:06 Ha, glad to see that efficiency in the video. I think that's a dual motor too! in the summer I often do 5 miles/kwh in my model 3 RWD...it's so efficient that other EV owners think you're lying or driving really slow or something...but there the model 3 is, driving at the same speed on the same road as everyone else, getting crazy good efficiency. That's also why you can't just look at max charging speed numbers as well, because the model 3 is getting more range on the same amount of energy.
@@iniqy Oh for sure. It'll vary by location, but where I am, the NON Tesla DC fast chargers are a lot more expensive..I'd say ranging from 33-75% more expensive! So even a very efficient non Tesla like an Ioniq 6 would be paying a lot more in charging on a road trip where I've seen due to higher DC fast charging costs (from prices I've seen). But yeah, no idea what it's like in the UK/Europe or anything.
Finally we got a sequel since the 2022/2023 editions! What a nightmare it must have felt like to edit all the footage from the GoPros and find the precise timing for the range checks! Your editors really need a raise! Let's hope the series will get even better in 2025!
So they were pretty similar on range, meaning what matters (ignoring brand snobbery) is price, efficiency and rapid charging speed. The Tesla and BYD were half the cost of the German brands and had similar stats.
The BMW has the least range and stopped first. I wish electric cards had similar functionality to current cars like physical light indicators and buttons for aircon/heater. Dont like using screen/ipad to turn on heater
I'd also say preference. Preference over the look, the comfort of the seats, the controls etc. I, personally, wouldn't ever buy something that only connects to iPhone. That being said, I don't like everything, up to freaking air conditioning buttons, being electronic, cuz once it starts malfunctioning you can never fix it to the brand new state. I'd get my vehicle completely analog and manual transmission, which, I understand, is quite impossible in an electric car if at all nowadays.
Feel like a more usable thing would be to compare cars that are more affordable and not luxury brands. The cockpit with all this tablet display is so ridiculous. Hard to see if the sun falls wrong. Pushing real buttons while driving makes much more sense. It's great to know that we achieved over 550 km range. Don't know why they didn't carry a jump battery though - if they knew they gonna test it until it breaks down 🙈
13:52 its not bad, i really see now why weight is important, for instance the Audi S1 with 231hp and over 1000kg less has a 0-62mph in 5.8s which is crazy and is manual
Quick Stats that interested me as a buyer: *Porsche Taycan:* Tested Range: 592,15 km Battery Capacity: 97 kWh km/kWh: 6.1 Cost: £90,954 £ per kwh: £937/kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £154/km of range *Mercedes EQE:* Tested Range: 574.54km Battery Capacity: 89 kWh km/kWh: 6.4 Cost: £69,810 £ per kwh: £784/ kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £121/ km of range *Tesla Model 3:* Tested Range: 566,56 km Battery Capacity: 75 kWh km/kWh: 7.6 Cost: £49,990 £ per kwh: £666/kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £88/km of range *Polestar 2:* Tested Range: 534,99 km Battery Capacity: 79 kWh km/kWh: 6,8 Cost: 55,950 £ per kwh: £708/kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £104/km or range *BYD Seal:* Tested Range: 498,95 km Battery Capacity: 82.5 kWh km/kWh: 6.0 Cost: £45,695 £ per kwh: £554/kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £92/km of range *BMW i5:* Tested Range: 476.96 km Battery Capacity: 81kWh km/kWh: 5.9 Cost: £92,570 £ per kwh: £1142/ kWh of battery capacity £ per km: £194/km of Range I wanted to know how much battery and even more importantly how much range you get for your money. As that is what concerns me the most. Bc.of basic physics ev's will always be quieter and more comfortable than their gas counter parts. So the above stats were the ones that are most relevant imo. You get the biggest battery for your buck from the Chinese, at BYD with £554/kWh of Battery. With "Gigamanufacturer" Tesla, only giving you £666/kWh of battery. But more interestingly for the consumer: *You get the most actual range for your £ from Tesla, at £88/km of range.* And with the stats above you can see how they do that. Tesla's battery, at 75kWh is smaller than the 82.5kWh one from BYD. But because they get more range from it at 7.6 km/kWh, compared to BYD's quite bad 6.0km/kWh, Tesla, despite cositng more at the initial purchase, get's you more range per £ that you spend. Which imo is the most imprtant metric in this test. As far as value for money goes. but the blinker must be horrendous to use, especially in roundabouts. The rest of them being european luxury-ish cars, are not supposed to be maximum economical transport. The Porsche having the biggest battery and longest range of them all at 97kWh and 591km of real range. The BMW interestingly being more expenisve and going not as far as the porsche, with a smaller battey and less efficiency.
*Also don't understand why all these cars have electronic parking brakes? Most people like manual ones much better anyways and especially in this case it would make so much sense.
If we really want to talk about bang for your buck, this video completely sidesteps the cost of charging. Many high power chargers in the UK charge 65-89p per kWh. There is one network that charges only 26-55 p per kWh. It kind of blows long trip motoring calculations out of the weeds. I am resisting saying that T word, as it elicits so much hate comment, but even though I charge mostly at home, this was the biggest factor for me when choosing my EV.
@@Ben-gm9lo That's crazy. Diesel cars that take less than 4.5L/100km are cheaper at that rate. Yep, charging at home is definetly what makes EV's attractive. I heard Tesla's charger network is not that bad.
@@surrealengineering7884 Tesla's charging network is fantastic. Not once in the past 2 years have I had to queue or found a broken charger. I look at the folk queueing for chargers at double the price and I wonder why anyone would go EV and not go Tesla.... But that is just me. I have had 7 Audis and 3 BMW products, but it makes less sense atm to my mind.
I own a relatively new tesla and yea, the blinker is really bad in roundabouts. But that's it, everywhere else you really get used to it pretty quickly, at least i did. While this fact is a definitive minus, for me it's outweighed by all the nice things you get as a tesla owner. Every month or so i get new and nice functions and the car just feels very snappy and nice. I do understand that other people have other preferences, i don't understand all the hate though.
In the BYD you have to move over the air flow, not the vents, on the screen. Then it works. Also if you drive the BYD in ECO mode it gives you about 20% more range. Then it comes close to the officially announced figures. In ECO mode the acceleration is not as fast and the recuperation is higher.
Eco modes In other cars don't work ? 😂ah he didn't work any of that . Sorry we had lot of ev in early boom in 2013 when I was kid , it's was same for them with eco mode with less acceleration it gives u more range
Motorized cabin vents are the dumbest, most unnecessarily overcomplicated change I've ever seen in a car. So you remove ALL the interior buttons, levers, stalks, and knobs to cut costs.. but you motorize air vents... Does that justify the lack of hard surface controls? Tell me how that makes sense. Also this video told me how important unpowered neutral engagement is in a vehicle. A lot of these cars were so close to the charging stations but couldn't make it cuz they can't engage neutral like gas cars can. Side note: That Taycan is still a really attractive car. By far my favorite electric car on the market right now.
@@Ejou402 Absolutely nothing wrong? Apart from taking a simple control which has worked for about 100 years and needlessly overengineering it to make it more complex, another failure point, and more difficult to use especially while driving? Madness that you think there is absolutely nothing wrong. And guess what genius you don't really need to adjust the passenger's air vent if there is no passenger...
Great stuff!!! These are REAL range tests in real . . . sometimes real bad conditions. My son has the RWD Polestar and the mileage and efficiency sounds right about on the mark. I have the SE AWD Ioniq 6 and it probably would get what the Polestar got based on "family" experience. Lots and lots of 300+ milers on the market now!
Having to take your eyes of the road to adjust heat/air & look at screen is EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS. Old style switches can easily be adjusted WITHOUT TAKING EYES OFF THE ROAD. Eyes off the road for Split second can be life threatening. ✌️
Temp control is always in the same place on the front screen bottom right, dont need to look at the screen to change the temp or turn on/off. Muscle memory like a car with switches. Or just adjust the temp with your scroll wheel on of steering wheel. Or just tell the car to change it with your voice.
@@darren6028 Mr.Watson was forced to take eyes off road looking at the screen trying to figure it out while driving. Were u watching different vid ?? Or do u work for car company ??
@@davidpaul6615 Mr Watson clearly doesnt know how to use the car properly. As you said, using switches you don't need to look, but you learn where they are during ownership. Jumping into a car with switches, you would need to look for them while driving until you learn where they are. Its no different.
@@davidpaul6615you cna press one button on the steering wheel and say it's hot in here and it turns the air cooler. Or say other things like "raise the temperature" etc.
It was a dreadful bit of driving. Navigating a roundabout is no time to be adjusting the heating. You have to look out for exits, signal properly and look out for other drivers. Simply wait until the road is straight. Not that there isn't a point to be made over having to navigate touch screens, but no need to prove it in such a hazardous situation in an unfamiliar car.
Mat is right - some of those things should be outlawed. It's mostly just cost cutting. But surely it costs more to have an electric controk for the vent direction. Why not add a slider?!
its not the price its the buying power of the same euro .it might look more expensive but your euro become less valuable thats all so you have to pay more
Physical or not, you don NOT fiddle with your center controls like this while you are in traffic. Amazing how people blame their own lack of proper safety and planning on a car. And NO, this wouldn´t have ended any different if he had to fumble around with knobs.
@@metadata4255 It doesn't need anything else. A lot of people who have never had real experiences with a Tesla complain about it, most people who drive Tesla's, buy a Tesla for their next car, at a higher rate than any German brand. That's a statistic that speaks for itself.
Total real range is interesting but not as important as efficiency. No one ever brags about the size of their petrol tank, just their miles per gallon. I’m glad you converted and showed us their miles/kwh
The reason range doesn't matter in petrol cars is because it takes two to three minutes to "recharge" from 1 to 100% and "recharging" stations are everywhere, available, and always working.
Efficiency was important, because petrol costs a considerable amount (in most countries) especially over the lifetime of the car. Range wasn't a big issue, because you could always fully refuel in less than 5 minutes if needed. With EVs, it's the other way around. Electricity is relatively cheap, but you don't wanna be stuck for an hour every time you make a longer trip. (Unless you're one of the "I like to stop for 20 minutes every 2 hours or so" people coping with their decision to buy old, used EVs. Apparently they love the magical atmosphere of highway petrol stations.)
Started this video with no intention of staying for all 50 min but its a great mix of information, comedy, and just enough to keep you engaged. Solid editing as well
Found it funny that he complained about no manual vent adjustment in the Porsche while in the front. But then goes to the back and complains about it having manual vent adjustments. Lol
This is a test that is relevant for all EVs except Tesla! Elon understood this 20 years ago (long before you or any of the other manufacturers got it) and built a robust and wide network of public charging that the car itself detects and lets the driver know including calculating not just where to stop but how long to charge for you to reach your destination without any anxiety Every other EV is a dumb box without charge and an unreliable public charging systems and people like you have to see how long before they run out of juice
In the UK where a road trip longer than about 600 miles will have you driving into the sea it’s less of an issue. One tends to have a preferred charging network either because of price and or a loyalty programme then you just need to select a few located North, East, South, West of your home location at 150 mile intervals given the range of most modern EV. For me based in Newcastle. Ionity chargers at Alnwick, Gateshead, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Maidstone means pretty much the length of the country is drivable. With destination charging taking up the slack.
I had seen an old version of this video, thought it was the same but no, it was a recent new video. Thanks! These videos are highly informative. Thumbs up!
@@0Tigrincs0 yeah more than a few buttons and you would overwhelmed. But having to dedicate 5 seconds towards a touchscreen, while going 65 down the highway, that is surely safe practice. You are probably one of those people that have had a car with Bluetooth handsfree for 15 years, but still clench the phone between your cheek and shoulder...
Electric cars doing over 400 miles or almost 650 kms in a single charge is like awesome, killing off range anxiety. that's such a huge leap compared to EVs that barely did 200 to 250kms a charge those days
I had a Tesla Model S Long Range, rated 413 miles. Avg.energy usage in chill mode was 2.1 Wh/mi. Traded in for CyberTruck, rated 330 miles in all weather tires with Avg. energy 2.97 Wh/mi which isn't bad due to it's weight.
I love watching these videos. Watching Matt driving up the motorway in electric cars and then watching him break down. THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT! It would be cool to watch one where they do Electric vs Hybrid vs NA. Obviously, we know who would win, but it would be interesting to see the distance between them.
These EV have soo much range now it's more than enough for vast majority drivers. ICE Vechiles including Hybrids with massive amount of range is for the niche driver who do several hundred miles frequently many dozens of times per year. That's a massive amount of your life spent on the road.
Total range is almost irrelevant. It's like having a bigger gas tank regardless of fuel consumption. Efficiency (and charging rate) is the most important unit followed by total range. Efficiency affects your wallet the most.
Interesting and entertaining as all the "how far" comparisons. Why haven't you ever featured a BMW i4 eDrive 40? The xDrive40 came out recently. You could give it a chance to compete.
Glad to see you're finally starting to test early enough in the day to where it didn't go into the night time. How much more fair test for the final mileage, instead of the most efficient cars having their mileage cut after they get into dark and the other ones that were less efficient died in the daytime. 👍🏻🇺🇸
If tesla would understand the benefit of a head up display the Y and 3 would be a great option. As is, I will have to pass. I understand minimalistic, price and weight réduction, but I will need cross-eyed vision to drive in comfort.
In my 5 years of Model 3 ownership, I have STILL not become okay with the single screen display. Still hate it. I understand what you are saying. My other car, Model S has dual screens and it feels so much more peaceful to drive.
Nick's commentary for his final moments demonstrates his wisdom and critical thinking skills. Always enjoy having him sharing his thoughts and expressions in an episode!
Except for the fact that you are completer wrong you are making a great point. They also did get the cars out of park and explained how they did it, including explaining that they either shutdown the car and start up straight away or waited a bit first... Maybe not true for the BYD, but you said 'cars', which makes no sense if it only applies to one of them.
@@garyquinlan4075 You sound like the people who mockingly said their horse worked just fine, so why would they need these newfangled motor carriages. You do understand that your "old tech diesel" took decades to get to the point of reliability, convenience and ease of use, right? Have you ever tried to drive automobiles from the first few decades of automotive design and innovation? Their bad in every way, but luckily people who were creating them didn't listen to morons who said their horse worked just fine.
@@handlemonium And I bet they could go even further if they just let them roll downhill. At some point the validity of test data might get called into question.
@@martinmcdonald4207 I still can't believe they approved of a bonus worth more than all profit the company has ever made. It's not like he was gonna quit if he didn't get it.
I will say this... I loved the video. I found it very funny that you complained about the cars all needing the touch screen to adjust the ventilation louvers, and then complained in the back of the Taycan that they had ventilation louvers you had to adjust by hand!
It's not about the manual controls, it looks absolutely horrible, they could have gone manual controls and make it look at least okay and not like it belonged in a 1990's car.
21:41 U can also (if someone steals ur car) go into a a mode where u heat up the car and u can also (if u called the police) lower the speeding range and track them on ur phone and watch them get fooled.
No EV can be towed with the drive wheels on the ground. Electric vehicles do not have true neutral gears, and spinning the electric motor without power would continue to generate electricity and possibly kill the control electronics.
@@aspecreviewsthen how does regen work 😂 bro there's a tow mode on the Tesla (and the others I hope) and you can tow an electric car a few hundred meters to reach a charger no problem. If your ICE breaks down you're not going to tow it with another car for 30 miles, same with an EV.
Best decision I ever made was switch to electric . Cost me £12 full charge at home 7kw charger with 320 miles in return . Company car is £500 per year tax compared to my previous Audi a5 £12k tax a year
physical buttons are more expensive after all. Screens have just become so cheap. Doesnt excuse not using buttons for some things though. Couldnt be arsed to drive a vehicle that constantly distracts me for every little thing, because they added elemental settings to a touch screen..
@@dosko9980 yes I see your point, And also this digital conversation seems a step towards "subscription" privileges. Since you can't control the temperature, radio, etc through screens when you don't pay for them.
teslas efficienty is so much higher because they are lying about the battery capacity. instead of calculating from the battery capacity they told you, calculate it from the amount you spent charging it from absolute dead (meaning kill it after it dies by waiting and restarting to make sure absolutely no charge is left)
There are many cars that were not tested here. Carwow can't possibly test every EV on the market cars in one go, in one video. The manpower and logistics required for such a task are beyond the means of any business/organisation.
@@chillout1109 Yes, I get your point. But in my opinion the Ioniq 6 is one of the best EVs right now. Its very efficient, charger fast as f…, has a quite good quality. And all that for a fraction of the cost you would need to pay for a different EV with a 800 volt system. The design of course isn’t for everyone. I couldn’t really get why the polestar 2 was in the selection. I think its quite outdated and overpriced as well
@@rmkep This was recorded in the UK where superchargers have no benefit to anyone. Tesla has been open to all for years as even Teslas use CCS. And Tesla's chargers aren't any more efficient, they're just better invested in. Plus so far there still aren't any Tesla superchargers as fast as the fastest CCS stations even though they've been promised for quite a while. Really the main benefit of their stations is just that Tesla spends far more on maintaining their stations or monitoring they actually work.
@@Skylancer727 having owned both Tesla and Non-Tesla EVs, that's not quite correct. Most CCS chargers will not deliver more than 175 kW to a 400 volt platform as they become current limited. The often quoted 350 kW they will deliver is only to 800 V platforms. Some 800 V platforms like the Ioniq/EV6 e-GMP cars also have a maximum speed of 240 kW, which is less than the 250 kW you can get from a supercharger. A supercharger (V3/V4) are the only chargers that will deliver 250 kW to a 400 V platform. There are still a lot of Tesla chargers in the UK not open to other brands, and the cheapest rates are only available to Tesla drivers. Most are around 32 p/kWh.
In this video, the BMW i5 stats are for a car with smaller wheels. The claimed range for this car is 328 miles which means it reached 90% of its claimed range. We are sorry for making this error.
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Is there any chance to test a byd qin L? They claim this car can travel 2100km fully charged. That's insane!
@@jutengzhang2049lol
What a nightmare it must have been to edit all these go pro footage and find the exact timing for range checks. Editors need a raise
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He literally said at the beginning of the video that the cameras are synced on all the cars
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Claimed and actual range in KM, sorted by % of claimed range achieved.
Merc EQE Claimed: 611,55 km. Actual: 574,54 km. Percentage of claimed: 94 %
Model 3 Claimed: 627,62 km. Actual: 566,56 km. Percentage of claimed: 90 %
BYD Seal Claimed: 569,67 km. Actual: 498,95 km. Percentage of claimed: 88 %
Taycan Claimed: 677,53 km. Actual: 592,15 km. Percentage of claimed: 87 %
Polestar 2 Claimed: 653,33 km. Actual: 534,99 km. Percentage of claimed: 82 %
BMW i5 Claimed: 582,98 km. Actual: 476,96 km. Percentage of claimed: 82 %
Thanks❤
God bless you
WLTP range isn't all highway, so saying they claim X range when the driving is all highway isn't quite correct.
if you factor the up front cost it all adds up to... IMPOSSIBLE for most people to buy :D
Not bad for those conditions.
There's an element of old school Top Gear about this, I love it!
CLAIMED RANGE OF THE CARS IN KILOMETRES:
1. Porsche Taycan: 678km (421 miles)
2. Polestar 2 Long Range: 653km (406 miles)
3. Tesla Model 3 Long Range: 628km (390 miles)
4. Mercedes EQE: 612km (380 miles)
5. BMW i5: 583km (362 miles)
6. BYD Seal: 570km (354 miles)
It’d be better if you could pin this comment ngl
my Volvo v60 5 cylinder does 700 miles/1100km on a full tank.. Cheers to the good old combustion engines
@@vivekdubey8335it is 🤦♂️
@@ed.83997Stop being such an old fart…
Thank you
Legend has it, that the 2 Big Men are still stuck in the BYD Trunk😂
They didnt like Winnie the pooh, ccp locked the lid 😂😂
2 men enter , one woman leaves.........lol.
The BYD Truck still has its weight underneath that truck.
@@MyrKnof 😂😂😂 You're insulting Polish people... only Poland bans Pooh 😮😮
😂
I think he forgot to release the two guys in BYD
oh no!
you're right .. we just found them
"And we've wondered why our convoy shrinked from 6 to 4 cars, hmm"
And the fact that it has a frunk or fruit depending on which side of the pond you hail from.
"forgot"....
Messed up the efficiency with that extra weight
In China a BYD Seal costs around £25000, I would say it’s probably the best price to performance on the list. If the EU law for Chinese EV price gets overturned then we could potentially get very cheap EVs in the UK
2 weeks later.. the law is now being applied... no more chinese cheap evs...:(*
@ yeah very unfortunate, if the union let that through their EU EVs will plummet
This is a subsidied cost, not real.
@@ainborray it still costs £25k in China compared to 40-50k in UK?
used to be much expensive with subside，now without much subside but cheaper.it is also cheaper in the other asia countries.@@ainborray
Pleease, add KM aswell for us fellow Europeans
BYD for europe the better
Tf is KM
what is this asswell word that everybody keeps using
The brakes on the BYD Seal seem atrocious at low speeds.
@@pechi22 1Killometer =aprox. 10 000 cheeseburgers. Hope that helps
it boggles the mind that after decades of educational campaigns telling drivers to take their eyes off screens to prevent accidents, automakers are even allowed to cram every single control into one single screen that demands even more attention than a cellphone. how is this legal?
Corporate capture of government regulators, that's how.
Because it is also legal to grill hamburgers in the passenger seat while driving. I don't know of any law that says you can't have an electric grill in the passenger seat or do any cooking while driving. That's the crazy thing about cell phones: Before cell phones, the law only required that you pay attention, but unless you had an accident, it was almost impossible to prove that you were not paying attention. Today, it is illegal to use a cell phone in most parts of the world, but even if you never look at the screen - after all, cell phones can now be completely voice-controlled - just holding it in your hand is a problem that makes no sense, because just holding it to your ear does not make you any less attentive to the road.
Yeah give me tactile controls every day, that I can feel and control without taking my eyes off the road
good question, when it serves the right politic it s ok, for the other don t look at your cellphone but on these technical wonders you can watch even porn
Holy cow you guys are living in the past. It's not an issue at all. Try it for a week, seriously.
ive literally just spent an hour watching someone drive a few electric cars and I didn't get bored. goes to show how good and funny you are.
Yea same,ngl
@@mohamad.zroual i just skipped all the blah blah and reached the last part.
Same
Hi
real consumer testing - wise man from carwow
£93,000 for that BMW is absolutely insane.
Yeah, a shitty German electric car at a cost of 2 houses outside the city or 1 in the city in my country. I just feel sorry for anyone who buys it in the end 😢
It is a big car ngl
They just absolutely overslept the start of ev‘s and are stuck in the early adopter phase like mercedes was like 4-6 years ago.
German car companies totally forgot to get ready in the ev space … bmw being the most stubbern 😅
Thats why they charge horrendous prices for shit performance and probably shit quality as well.
@@heinzkot360maybe they are just trying to make the people less interested in eva
2nd hand prices after 2-3 years (BMW included) will be the shock, its only worth doing as PCP/Leasing of these things. A friend of mine had his Tesla Model S for around 35 months and the instruments cluster, and a CPU controller failed, Telsa quoted it needed to be replace. It was covered under warranty but without it, Tesla said it would cost..... £2,500 including labour and full diagnostics. The parts are c£1.5k, but even a reasonable car mechanic can't do the work for legal reasons in the EU now. They said in a few years the parts would be close to c£2K plus. BMW/Merc have the highest parts prices in EU, hate to think what that would cost!. BMW is the nicest model there (possibly) but parts, insurance etc wow. I hope 10 Years warranty for £93K is included.
That was phenomenal, because all cars were subjected to the same weather, road and wind conditions. Kudos
Not Really, if I was not paying attention I would potentially think the Porsche is the car that can go the longest, as people are only really intersted in how far cars can go, and then they will state that the cost of the Taycan puts such cars out of the reach of your average purchaser.,
Ever since my first EV in 2013, I 've said 3.5m per Kw/h normal driving with a bit of fun, (can go lower), and 4m per Kwh if you are being sensible, but at all times with AirCon and heating etc and not being afraid to use the car as a car and not try and save battery capactiy.
However Taycan has the largest battery pack , and some 2WD and 4WD in the mix which is not taken into account. I was surprised at the Tesla with the lowest battery capacity to come in where it did, I would have thought the Polestar would have beaten it. I have driven the following EV's and not a the same time, as bought my first Leaf in 2013....:
Nissan Leaf (4yrs) [2013 and 2016 Model Years]
Polestar (2 months and thought it basically did what it said on the tin)
Tesla M3 Peformance (2 Months,)
Taycan 4S (4 Months)
Model S (5yrs)
I've stuck with the Model S the longest as it's a fantastic car, it might not have the build quality of the German Cars, and to be fair, if it wasn't for the 1st world problems of the TayCan I would be driving a TayCan right now as it is very much a drivers car, but the Model S, is the best comprimise for me :)
I would love to see a comparison of the Smaller Cars, Nissan Leaf, Vauxhall Corsa, Fiat 500 etc as that would be more enlightening I think, so perhaps a future episode ;-)
Actually I agree on the Weather, road and wind conditions, just not the way the results were presented, as slightly misleading due to different battery pack sizes
"There should be a law against this sh*t"
I've been saying that for years! A driver should not Have To "find" essential buttons while driving. And airco is essential!
Yeah. Watching tv while driving is illegal but fumbling around on a screen searching for critical car features is fine.
@@TheTruthKiwi 100% agree. I can't imagine this will last long. I drove one of these for the first time and fiddling around for heating controls whilst using navigation was a mess. Horrible experience.
Mercedes has the best solution
So the Euncap 2026 might make buttons mandatory to achieve 5 stars..! So physical buttons would probably have a comeback
@@glinleyt Which car were they talking about?
"It's like a big suppository" is maybe the best line I've ever heard in a car review
I work at durham services, can confirm the new chargers are ready and working, those 2 gridserve ones were absolutely shit and would break all the time, the hotel ones being ac only makes sense because overnight charging for hotel guests
The fact that you cannot change the direction of the airflow via the vents on some of these cars, but have to go into the infotainment screen to do so is nothing short of lunacy! Cannot understand how that was signed off. Absolutely ridiculous
I think you an control through your voice too.
Understandable for the tesla given how they work.
It's cheaper. That's how
Gotta pay 200€ for a repair
In the future, the car will know what you like, so you will very rarely need to adjust the settings.
Tesla's efficiency in their motor & drag coefficient is incredible. Filling up a 78Kwh battery takes much less time compared to 100 Kwh battery on a Mercedes or Porsche, yet you can still get ~350 miles
Imagine if they could cram a 85-90kw battery, it would easily hit 400 miles of range with its efficiency. I'd buy one if they built one like that
@@SereneSounds4KModel S has close to 100 Kwh battery & goes over 400 miles
But honestly no human can really go more than 200 or 250 max miles at a stretch without needing a break
@@SereneSounds4K*kWh
Yea but Petrol cars can do more miles and more enjoyable with cheaper prices
@@OH877 That’s subjective.
I went into this video thinking i was gonna skip most of it. I actually enjoyed every second. Goo running commentary and very informative as well as being a road trip. Thanks
getting a bit fed up with the constant drag races, this is a refreshing change
MATT likes races in DRAG w/ Pantyhose & heels...........lol.
The dragraces have never been a review, theyre a show.
@@Richard-tq7xiwell thats a very surprising stat.
A number of other car reviewing channels have already done this sort of range testing.
Yeah i miss the reviews of the normal cars, now its all dragracers of expensive cars, but these get more views i guess :/
I still don't understand why, in rainy UK charge points are open to the elements and don't have roofs.
Because they are tight AF. 😂😂😂
Even petrol stations have roofs that barely cover the pumps so when you fuel your trousers get wet.
It's only electricity what could possibly go wrong?
Yea the chargers may be built to withstand rain but they didn’t think to account for drivers 🙄
I've done a lot of supercharging in Europe and some are covered, often with a solar array. That said, a decent charge can easily take ~20min, and there's usually facilities nearby, so you plug it in and get a cup of tea.
Pumps these days are different, I don't know about the UK, but most pumps in Europe don't "lock" anymore (I think there was some law against it, not sure), so you're forced standing there like a teapot for a couple minutes, then a bit of a roof is nice to have.
lol imagine thinking it doesn’t rain in other countries😂😂😂
Tesla vs China with germany mucking around a bit trying to hold on to what they had.
YES, THIS SERIES IS BACK
They need to do more of these more often
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They should do this very frequently from this point.
@@dennisgypsy3096false info
But the 5 series is not
With Tesla’s massive efficiency lead, if they only put bigger batteries in their cars they could easily have the longest range. But Elon argues 350-400 miles real world range is more than enough. Then you need a break at a supercharger anyway. So they’d rather make the cars lighter and cheaper. 🤷🏻♂️
P.S.: I’m not hating on Tesla, in fact they seem to be striking a good balance. Just making an observation.
I have no issues with that but at least give the option of a higher battery. It is not normal that other manufacturer provide 85 to 100kW batteries and Tesla give only 75 for the LR. That's a bit like what Apple does. The issue with smaller batteries is that they are more prone to aging. Smaller batteries lose % faster than larger batteries.
If they put bigger batteries in that adds more weight which hampers efficiency and driving dynamics. Tesla has got it just right.
They already have massive quality problems with their suspension parts. They would just collapse with heavier batteries. Tesla model 3 has the lowest realiability of any car in Europe. The "efficiency" is mainly due to these sort of savings that make the cars lighter than the competition (and are ironically sold as minimalist as an explanation for e.g. why you don't get a screen in front of you). But this sort of cheap construction also means they won't last very long. They are designed like mobile phones - 3 years and you should buy a new one. That's why you can buy the old ones almost for free.
@@tobiwan001 Why are you lying?
@@m.a3914that’s easy. I am not.
Things are improving. I had an original Taycan Cross Turismo 4S and at most would get 210 miles, and in the winter no more than 190. I sold it as it wasn't good enough. 368 miles is a game changer though.
Why did people buy non-Tesla EV's in the past ten years? It was undisputable the best. And its still the safest car on the road, since the first thing their engineers do is make the car as safe as possible, only after that will they design the rest of the car.
There is another important factor that is difficult to rank because it's just done in software. It is "How hard does the car push its batteries?"
The harder it pushes them the more range you will get for the same battery weight but the faster the battery capacity will degrade over time.
eg, One car might decide the battery is 100% full at a cell voltage is 4.15V, while another car might charge to 4.20V and therefore get more energy into its calls and more range at the cost of battery longevity.
timestamps are needed for such a big video please!!
11:35
Watch the whole thing wanka!
How would they separate the sections then, it's one continuous video with only one goal
@@SAMK6IX7EVEN it's not that tough to begin with. driving sections of each car, introduction, charging infrastructure, things like that. haven't seen the full video because of it's sheer size. will see it in bits and pieces.
@@VarunSrinivas if you want the video to be like that then it would be longer than it is
"The Polestar is supposed to be a built from the ground up electric car, so why does it have a transmission tunnel" - er, well it is actually built on the Volvo XC40 chassis, and the XC40 comes (came?) in petrol and hybrid variants as well, hence the transmission tunnel 😉
I thought it was a Swedish quirk.
I have the same question
To be a bit pedantic, the Polestar 2 was built on the CMA platform owned by Geely, but developed in Sweden but neither by Volvo nor Polestar. The first car to be released on the CMA platform was indeed the Volvo XC40. For this reason, some of the less thorough motor journalists claim that the platform was developed by Volvo, but it was in fact ZEEKR (formerly China Euro Vehicle Technology).
The CMA platform was designed to be "drivetrain agnostic", which one could pessimistically argue leaves it with all the disadvantages of every single drivetrain it needs to support. Visually, this is most easily seen with the transmission tunnel.
Polestar has a hybrid as well😊
@@cleon5766 Haven't sold it in ages though.
16:06
Ha, glad to see that efficiency in the video. I think that's a dual motor too! in the summer I often do 5 miles/kwh in my model 3 RWD...it's so efficient that other EV owners think you're lying or driving really slow or something...but there the model 3 is, driving at the same speed on the same road as everyone else, getting crazy good efficiency.
That's also why you can't just look at max charging speed numbers as well, because the model 3 is getting more range on the same amount of energy.
And charging Tesla's at Tesla chargers is dirt cheap.
@@iniqy Oh for sure. It'll vary by location, but where I am, the NON Tesla DC fast chargers are a lot more expensive..I'd say ranging from 33-75% more expensive!
So even a very efficient non Tesla like an Ioniq 6 would be paying a lot more in charging on a road trip where I've seen due to higher DC fast charging costs (from prices I've seen). But yeah, no idea what it's like in the UK/Europe or anything.
Finally we got a sequel since the 2022/2023 editions! What a nightmare it must have felt like to edit all the footage from the GoPros and find the precise timing for the range checks! Your editors really need a raise! Let's hope the series will get even better in 2025!
So they were pretty similar on range, meaning what matters (ignoring brand snobbery) is price, efficiency and rapid charging speed. The Tesla and BYD were half the cost of the German brands and had similar stats.
The BMW has the least range and stopped first. I wish electric cards had similar functionality to current cars like physical light indicators and buttons for aircon/heater. Dont like using screen/ipad to turn on heater
I think you meant value rather than price? If price was important nobody would be driving a brand new car.
I'd also say preference. Preference over the look, the comfort of the seats, the controls etc. I, personally, wouldn't ever buy something that only connects to iPhone. That being said, I don't like everything, up to freaking air conditioning buttons, being electronic, cuz once it starts malfunctioning you can never fix it to the brand new state.
I'd get my vehicle completely analog and manual transmission, which, I understand, is quite impossible in an electric car if at all nowadays.
The Tesla was by far the most efficient. Which seems to me to be the most important range statistic
Sure you can buy a shit quality car for half a price, but that would be stupid
My favourite series... Takes a lot of effort and planning and it's worth it...!!
Could we have a similar test of the cheaper EV's? Peugeot, VW, MG etc.
Tesla is a 2 to 4 times better deal (msrp/range wise) than the others tested and the price is less than a VW....
@@TimLFtesla is shit compared to a hyundai kona or ioniq 5/6. it literally beats it in every way other than orice which is like 3k more
@@jessepinkman5198you didn’t account for the Addens which are included in teslas price it’s than more like 10k of a difference in price
Feel like a more usable thing would be to compare cars that are more affordable and not luxury brands.
The cockpit with all this tablet display is so ridiculous. Hard to see if the sun falls wrong. Pushing real buttons while driving makes much more sense.
It's great to know that we achieved over 550 km range.
Don't know why they didn't carry a jump battery though - if they knew they gonna test it until it breaks down 🙈
13:52 its not bad, i really see now why weight is important, for instance the Audi S1 with 231hp and over 1000kg less has a 0-62mph in 5.8s which is crazy and is manual
Quick Stats that interested me as a buyer:
*Porsche Taycan:*
Tested Range: 592,15 km
Battery Capacity: 97 kWh
km/kWh: 6.1
Cost: £90,954
£ per kwh: £937/kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £154/km of range
*Mercedes EQE:*
Tested Range: 574.54km
Battery Capacity: 89 kWh
km/kWh: 6.4
Cost: £69,810
£ per kwh: £784/ kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £121/ km of range
*Tesla Model 3:*
Tested Range: 566,56 km
Battery Capacity: 75 kWh
km/kWh: 7.6
Cost: £49,990
£ per kwh: £666/kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £88/km of range
*Polestar 2:*
Tested Range: 534,99 km
Battery Capacity: 79 kWh
km/kWh: 6,8
Cost: 55,950
£ per kwh: £708/kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £104/km or range
*BYD Seal:*
Tested Range: 498,95 km
Battery Capacity: 82.5 kWh
km/kWh: 6.0
Cost: £45,695
£ per kwh: £554/kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £92/km of range
*BMW i5:*
Tested Range: 476.96 km
Battery Capacity: 81kWh
km/kWh: 5.9
Cost: £92,570
£ per kwh: £1142/ kWh of battery capacity
£ per km: £194/km of Range
I wanted to know how much battery and even more importantly how much range you get for your money. As that is what concerns me the most. Bc.of basic physics ev's will always be quieter and more comfortable than their gas counter parts. So the above stats were the ones that are most relevant imo.
You get the biggest battery for your buck from the Chinese, at BYD with £554/kWh of Battery. With "Gigamanufacturer" Tesla, only giving you £666/kWh of battery.
But more interestingly for the consumer: *You get the most actual range for your £ from Tesla, at £88/km of range.*
And with the stats above you can see how they do that. Tesla's battery, at 75kWh is smaller than the 82.5kWh one from BYD. But because they get more range from it at 7.6 km/kWh, compared to BYD's quite bad 6.0km/kWh, Tesla, despite cositng more at the initial purchase, get's you more range per £ that you spend. Which imo is the most imprtant metric in this test. As far as value for money goes.
but the blinker must be horrendous to use, especially in roundabouts.
The rest of them being european luxury-ish cars, are not supposed to be maximum economical transport. The Porsche having the biggest battery and longest range of them all at 97kWh and 591km of real range. The BMW interestingly being more expenisve and going not as far as the porsche, with a smaller battey and less efficiency.
*Also don't understand why all these cars have electronic parking brakes?
Most people like manual ones much better anyways and especially in this case it would make so much sense.
If we really want to talk about bang for your buck, this video completely sidesteps the cost of charging. Many high power chargers in the UK charge 65-89p per kWh. There is one network that charges only 26-55 p per kWh. It kind of blows long trip motoring calculations out of the weeds. I am resisting saying that T word, as it elicits so much hate comment, but even though I charge mostly at home, this was the biggest factor for me when choosing my EV.
@@Ben-gm9lo That's crazy. Diesel cars that take less than 4.5L/100km are cheaper at that rate. Yep, charging at home is definetly what makes EV's attractive. I heard Tesla's charger network is not that bad.
@@surrealengineering7884 Tesla's charging network is fantastic. Not once in the past 2 years have I had to queue or found a broken charger. I look at the folk queueing for chargers at double the price and I wonder why anyone would go EV and not go Tesla.... But that is just me. I have had 7 Audis and 3 BMW products, but it makes less sense atm to my mind.
I own a relatively new tesla and yea, the blinker is really bad in roundabouts. But that's it, everywhere else you really get used to it pretty quickly, at least i did. While this fact is a definitive minus, for me it's outweighed by all the nice things you get as a tesla owner. Every month or so i get new and nice functions and the car just feels very snappy and nice. I do understand that other people have other preferences, i don't understand all the hate though.
A chart with Stats for these cars wouldve been cool :)
Totally agree, including prices.
totally agree, maybe even a line chart adding a new data point for each checkpoint.
There's a comment
In the BYD you have to move over the air flow, not the vents, on the screen. Then it works. Also if you drive the BYD in ECO mode it gives you about 20% more range. Then it comes close to the officially announced figures. In ECO mode the acceleration is not as fast and the recuperation is higher.
Eco modes In other cars don't work ? 😂ah he didn't work any of that . Sorry we had lot of ev in early boom in 2013 when I was kid , it's was same for them with eco mode with less acceleration it gives u more range
That TV license story was incredibly based.
Based?
What
Timestamp?
@@janechanlder267544:50
Who
Jump to 48:22 for summery
Motorized cabin vents are the dumbest, most unnecessarily overcomplicated change I've ever seen in a car.
So you remove ALL the interior buttons, levers, stalks, and knobs to cut costs.. but you motorize air vents...
Does that justify the lack of hard surface controls? Tell me how that makes sense.
Also this video told me how important unpowered neutral engagement is in a vehicle. A lot of these cars were so close to the charging stations but couldn't make it cuz they can't engage neutral like gas cars can.
Side note: That Taycan is still a really attractive car. By far my favorite electric car on the market right now.
Isn't it just about fan speed distribution inside the slit in the Model 3 to control the air flow?
Enjoy reaching all the way over to adjust passengers air vent. There is absolutely nothing wrong with motorized vents.
Who adjusts the passanger air vents while driving??
@@Draxi_1 Yes, but you also have to control the direction the air blows in through the screen.
@@Ejou402 Absolutely nothing wrong? Apart from taking a simple control which has worked for about 100 years and needlessly overengineering it to make it more complex, another failure point, and more difficult to use especially while driving? Madness that you think there is absolutely nothing wrong. And guess what genius you don't really need to adjust the passenger's air vent if there is no passenger...
Great stuff!!! These are REAL range tests in real . . . sometimes real bad conditions. My son has the RWD Polestar and the mileage and efficiency sounds right about on the mark. I have the SE AWD Ioniq 6 and it probably would get what the Polestar got based on "family" experience. Lots and lots of 300+ milers on the market now!
“Nick here is claustrophobic” proceeds to cram him in the boot and then add another larger man to the outside space
That was in this video.
@@oggyoggy1299 I know… that’s where the reference is from…
Matt is crazy, he swears so much, he is aggressive and he shoves people is his trunk😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I love it😂😂
Having to take your eyes of the road to adjust heat/air & look at screen is EXTREAMLY DANGEROUS. Old style switches can easily be adjusted WITHOUT TAKING EYES OFF THE ROAD. Eyes off the road for Split second can be life threatening. ✌️
Temp control is always in the same place on the front screen bottom right, dont need to look at the screen to change the temp or turn on/off. Muscle memory like a car with switches. Or just adjust the temp with your scroll wheel on of steering wheel. Or just tell the car to change it with your voice.
you an use chatgbt in news cars now
@@darren6028 Mr.Watson was forced to take eyes off road looking at the screen trying to figure it out while driving. Were u watching different vid ?? Or do u work for car company ??
@@davidpaul6615 Mr Watson clearly doesnt know how to use the car properly. As you said, using switches you don't need to look, but you learn where they are during ownership. Jumping into a car with switches, you would need to look for them while driving until you learn where they are. Its no different.
@@davidpaul6615you cna press one button on the steering wheel and say it's hot in here and it turns the air cooler. Or say other things like "raise the temperature" etc.
Matt’s the type of person to faff around adjusting things whilst entering a roundabout, then gets angry that he was distracted and made a wrong turn
i mean he wouldn't have that kind of trouble on any other cars that doesn't just cheap out and use an ipad for everything :)
I like that he left it in, we know a lot of people do this and it's only getting more prevalent
@youtube2kwatcheryep. If it crashed the result could be disastrous.
no way your comment got copied by a bot 💀
It was a dreadful bit of driving. Navigating a roundabout is no time to be adjusting the heating. You have to look out for exits, signal properly and look out for other drivers. Simply wait until the road is straight.
Not that there isn't a point to be made over having to navigate touch screens, but no need to prove it in such a hazardous situation in an unfamiliar car.
4:00 Good demonstration why big screens aren't the best idea for cars
Mat is right - some of those things should be outlawed. It's mostly just cost cutting. But surely it costs more to have an electric controk for the vent direction. Why not add a slider?!
Nah, good demonstration of why proper software is important. BYD is absolute shit in that regard, and Tesla still well clear of any competition.
@@jacobjensen5759BYD also as heavy as Land Rover Defender.
@@jacobjensen5759 Sure, having to look at center console to see speed is great software.
@@jacobjensen5759 Rubbish, I have both and don't say you have driven a BYD around the block.
I did not had to charge my battery for the 10 years I own it and it still going strong.
Only with Carwow ,one can watch a whole 50 minute video and never get bored
Definitely 🎉
Must say, I'm annoyed by the things annoying the reviewer! He hated a silent phoney air diffuser. He moaned about inconsequential things.
Car prices are absolutely through the roof... 70.000 pounds for an ENTRY level EQE300 which has an almost complete plastic interior. It's ridiculous!
I'll stick with a 5 grand lexus that smokes it in every measure, thanks.
People they put a lot of plastic in electric cars to reduce weight
MX5s are reasonably priced, when you consider VAT is 20%.
its not the price its the buying power of the same euro .it might look more expensive but your euro become less valuable thats all so you have to pay more
@@Jonas-sg1eoits even worse for the dollar...
4:00 best example, they should be obligated to also put phisical buttons!
correct, inacceptable, meanwhile, you can't fiddle with your smartphone, but this is AS dangerous !
Physical or not, you don NOT fiddle with your center controls like this while you are in traffic. Amazing how people blame their own lack of proper safety and planning on a car.
And NO, this wouldn´t have ended any different if he had to fumble around with knobs.
no, best example why you should focus on driving the car when you're inside a roundabout instead of fiddling with your car controls (physical or not).
All essential systems should have to have manual control by law. vents, heaters, wipers, volume etc.
Mat: Best car display EVER!!
A few seconds later:I take that back😂
Tesla meanwhile has a 120hz screen that moves faster than most flagships
Time stamps?
@@Twin.motors Tesla meanwhile has an iPad stuck on the center of the dash and basically nothing else
@@metadata4255 looks annoying
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It doesn't need anything else.
A lot of people who have never had real experiences with a Tesla complain about it, most people who drive Tesla's, buy a Tesla for their next car, at a higher rate than any German brand.
That's a statistic that speaks for itself.
Total real range is interesting but not as important as efficiency.
No one ever brags about the size of their petrol tank, just their miles per gallon.
I’m glad you converted and showed us their miles/kwh
It matters for EVs because charging while out sucks.
The reason range doesn't matter in petrol cars is because it takes two to three minutes to "recharge" from 1 to 100% and "recharging" stations are everywhere, available, and always working.
Except in these comments there ARE people bragging about the size of their tanks haha!
@@colindgrant 😂 always the non believers
Efficiency was important, because petrol costs a considerable amount (in most countries) especially over the lifetime of the car. Range wasn't a big issue, because you could always fully refuel in less than 5 minutes if needed.
With EVs, it's the other way around. Electricity is relatively cheap, but you don't wanna be stuck for an hour every time you make a longer trip. (Unless you're one of the "I like to stop for 20 minutes every 2 hours or so" people coping with their decision to buy old, used EVs. Apparently they love the magical atmosphere of highway petrol stations.)
50:00 error, BYD should be 87% of the claimed range😅
tesla better
Started this video with no intention of staying for all 50 min but its a great mix of information, comedy, and just enough to keep you engaged. Solid editing as well
Found it funny that he complained about no manual vent adjustment in the Porsche while in the front. But then goes to the back and complains about it having manual vent adjustments. Lol
yeah same
these are soo much fun to watch... such a build up gets more exiting at the end.. love thats car wow is more versatile now.
This is a test that is relevant for all EVs except Tesla!
Elon understood this 20 years ago (long before you or any of the other manufacturers got it) and built a robust and wide network of public charging that the car itself detects and lets the driver know including calculating not just where to stop but how long to charge for you to reach your destination without any anxiety
Every other EV is a dumb box without charge and an unreliable public charging systems and people like you have to see how long before they run out of juice
In the UK where a road trip longer than about 600 miles will have you driving into the sea it’s less of an issue.
One tends to have a preferred charging network either because of price and or a loyalty programme then you just need to select a few located North, East, South, West of your home location at 150 mile intervals given the range of most modern EV.
For me based in Newcastle. Ionity chargers at Alnwick, Gateshead, Leeds, Milton Keynes and Maidstone means pretty much the length of the country is drivable. With destination charging taking up the slack.
Elon fanboy detected
@@Naikomi95 But he's still right
@@NamesAreRandom nah, teslas are outdated and bad quality. In ten years the company will be broke
I had seen an old version of this video, thought it was the same but no, it was a recent new video. Thanks! These videos are highly informative. Thumbs up!
Not having physical buttons for essentials should be illegal.
I don’t need them. 🤷🏻♀️ buy a car with buttons if you like. I don’t want one with lots of buttons.
@@0Tigrincs0 yeah more than a few buttons and you would overwhelmed. But having to dedicate 5 seconds towards a touchscreen, while going 65 down the highway, that is surely safe practice. You are probably one of those people that have had a car with Bluetooth handsfree for 15 years, but still clench the phone between your cheek and shoulder...
@@johanlahti84😂😂
And having new EVs with electronic steering should also be illegal until the tech is guaranteed by the manufacturer in the purchase contract.
@@0Tigrincs0 Agree! Once you get used to voice control, no need for buttons, stalks,etc., simplicity and no parts is the best thing.
Electric cars doing over 400 miles or almost 650 kms in a single charge is like awesome, killing off range anxiety. that's such a huge leap compared to EVs that barely did 200 to 250kms a charge those days
Just need to sort the huge price anxiety 😂😂
I had a Tesla Model S Long Range, rated 413 miles. Avg.energy usage in chill mode was 2.1 Wh/mi. Traded in for CyberTruck, rated 330 miles in all weather tires with Avg. energy 2.97 Wh/mi which isn't bad due to it's weight.
I love watching these videos. Watching Matt driving up the motorway in electric cars and then watching him break down. THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT!
It would be cool to watch one where they do Electric vs Hybrid vs NA. Obviously, we know who would win, but it would be interesting to see the distance between them.
These EV have soo much range now it's more than enough for vast majority drivers. ICE Vechiles including Hybrids with massive amount of range is for the niche driver who do several hundred miles frequently many dozens of times per year. That's a massive amount of your life spent on the road.
Total range is almost irrelevant. It's like having a bigger gas tank regardless of fuel consumption. Efficiency (and charging rate) is the most important unit followed by total range. Efficiency affects your wallet the most.
24:29 was expecting Warwick Davies or Peter Dinklage walking in to test it.
6:59 I love that kidnappability testing there
Interesting and entertaining as all the "how far" comparisons. Why haven't you ever featured a BMW i4 eDrive 40? The xDrive40 came out recently. You could give it a chance to compete.
Glad to see you're finally starting to test early enough in the day to where it didn't go into the night time. How much more fair test for the final mileage, instead of the most efficient cars having their mileage cut after they get into dark and the other ones that were less efficient died in the daytime. 👍🏻🇺🇸
If tesla would understand the benefit of a head up display the Y and 3 would be a great option. As is, I will have to pass. I understand minimalistic, price and weight réduction, but I will need cross-eyed vision to drive in comfort.
In my 5 years of Model 3 ownership, I have STILL not become okay with the single screen display. Still hate it. I understand what you are saying.
My other car, Model S has dual screens and it feels so much more peaceful to drive.
41:25 genius plan , didnt expect it to work but it did 😂
Nick's commentary for his final moments demonstrates his wisdom and critical thinking skills. Always enjoy having him sharing his thoughts and expressions in an episode!
The fact that you can't take the cars out of park when they die is insane
Except for the fact that you are completer wrong you are making a great point.
They also did get the cars out of park and explained how they did it, including explaining that they either shutdown the car and start up straight away or waited a bit first...
Maybe not true for the BYD, but you said 'cars', which makes no sense if it only applies to one of them.
@@timmos184 I can place my foot on the brake and move out or into park instantly without any problem. That's old tech diesel for you🙂
@@timmos184 In all the normal cars, you put it into Neutral and take the handbrake off and they won't block you from doing so.
@@garyquinlan4075 You sound like the people who mockingly said their horse worked just fine, so why would they need these newfangled motor carriages.
You do understand that your "old tech diesel" took decades to get to the point of reliability, convenience and ease of use, right? Have you ever tried to drive automobiles from the first few decades of automotive design and innovation? Their bad in every way, but luckily people who were creating them didn't listen to morons who said their horse worked just fine.
For my fellow Tesla drivers: If you enable "free roll" in the service menu you can roll/push your car.
finally range test
these kind of tests are important for consumers
I bet all of them could have gone 10% farther going a little slower on the highway.
@@handlemonium And I bet they could go even further if they just let them roll downhill. At some point the validity of test data might get called into question.
4:30 'Why can't I just have a knob, that I can twiddle' - Matt 2024
😂😂😂😂
A knob with Elon Musk`s head. Poor Elon and his 56 Billion Dollar Bonus.
@@martinmcdonald4207 I still can't believe they approved of a bonus worth more than all profit the company has ever made. It's not like he was gonna quit if he didn't get it.
24:59 “less like a fish” 😭
I will say this... I loved the video. I found it very funny that you complained about the cars all needing the touch screen to adjust the ventilation louvers, and then complained in the back of the Taycan that they had ventilation louvers you had to adjust by hand!
It's not about the manual controls, it looks absolutely horrible, they could have gone manual controls and make it look at least okay and not like it belonged in a 1990's car.
Great video! Tanks!! :D
pls make a version w/ low budget cars :D
0:09 is so funny when you pause it correctly
21:41 U can also (if someone steals ur car) go into a a mode where u heat up the car and u can also (if u called the police) lower the speeding range and track them on ur phone and watch them get fooled.
This is my favorite carwow series! I love the commentary.
hope to see soon your full review of the tesla model 3 performance and some drag races and such!
Which of these cars would need a full lift truck if you run out of battery ? Which of these cars can be towed by another car too?
No EV can be towed with the drive wheels on the ground. Electric vehicles do not have true neutral gears, and spinning the electric motor without power would continue to generate electricity and possibly kill the control electronics.
@@aspecreviews so dont drive your EV till zero, so you can tow it for short distances
AA have free wheeling hubs if they really need to tow an EV, but most of the time they will just charge the car and drive it if out of range.
@@aspecreviewsthis is not quite correct
@@aspecreviewsthen how does regen work 😂 bro there's a tow mode on the Tesla (and the others I hope) and you can tow an electric car a few hundred meters to reach a charger no problem. If your ICE breaks down you're not going to tow it with another car for 30 miles, same with an EV.
now add in the performance numbers performance + range = win
Shoving the guys in the trunks was friggin hilarious. 🤣🤣🤣
13:35 The i5 looks so good in this shot :0
These tests are so great!! Great job 👍👍
26:21 lmao I laughed at the Tesla being all over the place after Mat made a comment about the Polestar’s ok steering 😂
That Tesla is pretty impressive being the smallest battery, most efficient and 3rd longest in range.
They look like a return to jelly-mould designs from the early 80's. Not a terrible thing IMO.
surely you meant early 90s
@@axiomic No, more like Ford Sierra from 1982
@@Pugwash. well the 1980s were renowned for angular design, and the 90s was the jellybean decade. Even the Sierra was less angular in the 90s.
I love range tests they are so fun and it’s amazing to see the improvements in just a couple years
Best decision I ever made was switch to electric . Cost me £12 full charge at home 7kw charger with 320 miles in return . Company car is £500 per year tax compared to my previous Audi a5 £12k tax a year
I love coming home from work at 3am and seeing that a new 50 minute video just got released. Guess I'm not sleeping just yet 😂
3:50 in future we will see the company charge more for the physical buttons.
"CREATE A PROBLEM IN THE MARKET AND SELL THE SOLUTION TO THE MARKET".
physical buttons are more expensive after all. Screens have just become so cheap. Doesnt excuse not using buttons for some things though. Couldnt be arsed to drive a vehicle that constantly distracts me for every little thing, because they added elemental settings to a touch screen..
@@dosko9980 yes I see your point,
And also this digital conversation seems a step towards "subscription" privileges.
Since you can't control the temperature, radio, etc through screens when you don't pay for them.
Taycan range hax improved significantly, the major criticism levelled at it before. Also you'd buy a taycan over the i5 wouldn't you.
No, they're both electric crap
@@Fred_the_1996"no they are both electric crap 🤓"
@@BrightsunSingh yes they are
@@Fred_the_1996 As opposed to the crap that comes out of your gob?
teslas efficienty is so much higher because they are lying about the battery capacity. instead of calculating from the battery capacity they told you, calculate it from the amount you spent charging it from absolute dead (meaning kill it after it dies by waiting and restarting to make sure absolutely no charge is left)
I was a bit disappointed that the Ioniq 6 didn't get tested as well, its such a efficent car.
There are many cars that were not tested here. Carwow can't possibly test every EV on the market cars in one go, in one video. The manpower and logistics required for such a task are beyond the means of any business/organisation.
@@chillout1109 Yes, I get your point. But in my opinion the Ioniq 6 is one of the best EVs right now. Its very efficient, charger fast as f…, has a quite good quality. And all that for a fraction of the cost you would need to pay for a different EV with a 800 volt system. The design of course isn’t for everyone. I couldn’t really get why the polestar 2 was in the selection. I think its quite outdated and overpriced as well
It's the Superchargers stupid ... Vastly superior infrastructure and efficiency for the actual win.
@@rmkep This was recorded in the UK where superchargers have no benefit to anyone. Tesla has been open to all for years as even Teslas use CCS.
And Tesla's chargers aren't any more efficient, they're just better invested in. Plus so far there still aren't any Tesla superchargers as fast as the fastest CCS stations even though they've been promised for quite a while. Really the main benefit of their stations is just that Tesla spends far more on maintaining their stations or monitoring they actually work.
@@Skylancer727 having owned both Tesla and Non-Tesla EVs, that's not quite correct.
Most CCS chargers will not deliver more than 175 kW to a 400 volt platform as they become current limited. The often quoted 350 kW they will deliver is only to 800 V platforms. Some 800 V platforms like the Ioniq/EV6 e-GMP cars also have a maximum speed of 240 kW, which is less than the 250 kW you can get from a supercharger.
A supercharger (V3/V4) are the only chargers that will deliver 250 kW to a 400 V platform.
There are still a lot of Tesla chargers in the UK not open to other brands, and the cheapest rates are only available to Tesla drivers. Most are around 32 p/kWh.
I really enjoyed this. I’m surprised I sat through the whole thing. Really entertaining.
These are my favourite Carwow Videos
Can you do another one for the suvs?