I pay good money for video classes that are so sub-par to your presentations, it's pathetic. If I haven't said you're doing a nice thing and a good job here, I am now. I'm not distracted by kids running thru the video; nothing is out of the frame or out of focus; your voice is pleasant to listen to - I could go on. It's such a pleasant change to see someone who cares about doing these in a professional manner. Thank you.
Nice vid. This helps me a lot. Your friend Andrew sent me. His vids are “At the bench” he an another viewer sent me here. Awesome. I’m not able to get the expensive draw plate setup. I have all the basic tools to manufacture lots of variety. Earrings, rings, bangles, necklace, simple stone setting, some custom work over the years to get this far. Got my tools, bench, torch, crucible, but I lack good space. I won’t give up. No matter what anyone ever says or attempts to laugh me off, I choose to pursue this work. I find my self saying one does not choose to make a ring and make it perfectly over night. 5 yrs in and counting I’ve barley touched my first 14 k rings. I lack a stamping setup to make hallmarking the ring work correctly. The rolling mill made it, the rolling mill offers the solution to also hallmarking. It’s a learning thing with the hallmarking as well but I mean specifically the gold. Sterling I’m more comfortable with hallmarking it.
This is awesome! A few days ago I saw the entry level table top draw bench by Durston and thought to myself I could build something similar that would work by using a winch. I had no idea what type of winch but I knew it needed a hand crank and I googled searched winches. You are correct, these winches are affordable compared to the $697 price tag at a major us-based jewelry supplier in Albuquerque. Willie, on the Ganoksin Orchid jewelers forum referred me to your tutorial and I must say you did such a superb job demonstrating how to make this (somewhat portable) draw bench. I'm sure you've saved lots of people lots of money. You also prevented my brain from having to think what else I needed beyond the winch. Now all I need is a workshop. LOL! 😄 Thank you so much for sharing this. YOU ARE AWESOME! 👍😊
Thanks so much, I literally just bought that winch and attached it to a board Like two weeks ago to make the thick wire needed for the bangle in project 1. Now I see this video and I’m ready to finish this thing. I agree, about the draw benches available at the jewelery tool companies .The only ones I could find were way too expensive and this seems like it’s gonna get the job done. Thanks again for creating and sharing another excellent and very useful video. The timing was literally perfect. Now I’m waiting for that Cuban link project lol ! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great job as always Melissa . Keep up the great work .
Thank you Melissa! I have wanted a draw bench for decades. Now, thanks to your clear and complete video, I have one! It cost me about $60 and it works great!
I have a little trick that I figured out when working in a factory. When your threading a nut onto a bolt, the less pressure you put on it, the easier the thread will catch. So just give a really light touch, and the thread will catch, and you won't have to splurge out cuss words =)
Outstanding video my favorite metalsmith, I love the humor added in about the nuts and bolts. Keep those videos coming. This is the 4th time I have watched.
Well the good news here I have been looking in to the clamping thingy upon seeing this idea it's problem solved although I did think of it but thought it was going to twist or strip out the adjustment nut and cause problem but seeing this I guess I am wrong. Thank you for helping me got lots of old stuff out back a mistake Always welcome the things to learn about Anyhoo Thank you for shareing
Good job! I installed at the end I’ of my bench a cheap drill press vice so that I can really get a good pull of the draw plate! I secured it just as we both did of the boat winch! Then I can use all of the wholes on the plate, just unclamp and reposition! I’ll post of photo!
That is a great idea. Perhaps you can post the photo somewhere and include a link? I don’t think UA-cam let’s you post a photo in the comment. Darn it.
PS and FYI I just purchased the NTaH!-HammerStake Set and a couple other things from micro-tools. I love hammers! Thanks for the referral (smiley face).
I just did this yesterday and it turned out beautifully. I had been pulling wire manually and figured i was gonna hurt myself eventually and needed an easier way (and cheaper than the draw machine at rio). The only variation i made was using real draw tongs and a steel ring. I was concerned it wouldnt hold while drawing but so far it does. Thanks for the video!
When we draw wires industrially, we use a lubricant, typically some kind of soap to make it easier to pull the wires trough the dies. Liquid detergent mixed with water might work on your small scale. Of course, we don't have to worry about the smoke that's generated when we anneal the wire because we have huge smoke eliminators on the ventilation system . That might be more of a problem in your shop.
I love your video and I just finished my draw bench! Tomorrow I will start pulling wire! Thank you so much for your entertaining, easy to follow video. I took classes from Alan Revere in the early 2000's. Good for you for going through his awesome book and demonstrating the techniques.
I’m definitely going to build something similar! Update: Manifestation occurs quickly. I went from a minds vision, to searching, to finding your video, to shopping for parts. Thanks a bunch!
Well done! Thank you for sharing this brilliant idea.I’ve always wanted my own draw bench because I draw a lot of wire. Now I can make one thanks to you.
Ok, so. Use the draw tongs to get the wire to length, then add a spool to catch onto. Use a crank to crank the spool. You will then be able to make longer wire. If I'm not explaining it well enough, I can go into more detail. I used to make chainmaille armor as a semi professional hobby the traditional way. This is what we did to get a great finish on the wire and exact, repeatable dimensions.
Checked out the price of the durston table top draw bench and here i am watching a video on how to make one 🤣🤣. .. i smell a DIY project approaching .. thank u soo much for this
Definitely probably a better option than the big hook on the end of the Vise grip. Can't imagine that was cheap compared to like a steel chain connector or something.
When using a spade bit use it first then drill the hole, your design is a bit more user friendly than mine I made my draw bench from 8"x 4"x 8' RSJ because that is what I had and a 40 year old winch, same reason it was in the shed. I had to remount the winch half way along as I am using normal draw tongs and I find that you have hold them closed at the beginning of the draw or they don't grip and 8' was just too log to be comfortable welded some legs and wheels on it it is too big for my studio so it lives outside in the carport under a tarp
Thank you thank you thank you!!! I absolutely don’t want to spend $1500 on a draw bench when the parts and pieces are really not very complicated or expensive to put together. It honestly just makes me really hate Durston and not want to buy anything from them because they rip their customers off soooooo badly. There’s no excuse for the prices they charge, and I’m not complying with it. You’ve given me a way to avoid them. So THANK YOU!!!
That said, I do love my Durston tools and there are some I am willing to pay for. But where I don’t do a lot of drawing, it made more sense to make my own draw bench.
@@MelissaMuir I get it, I’m just more offended at their prices based on principle. I think even if I was a billionaire I would refuse to buy anything from them because their prices are outrageous. I mean really, why would it honestly cost that much when I can get the exact same thing on Amazon for a fraction of the price from a highly rated but off brand company? You know the Durston tabletop drawbench for $700? I was going to buy that. Then I read the reviews. Apparently the tongs won’t even reach anywhere near the drawplate. You apparently have to create a draw dog 5 inches long to even get it to where the tongs can grab it, which then reduces the amount of wire you end up with so I can’t even justify the cost to myself with ‘superior engineering’ as a reason. So I went and got the equipment today to make this draw bench. I bought a pair of tongs on Amazon that have a steel O ring on them, I got the board, some L brackets, and the same boat winch from your link (thank you again, you’re a life saver and have my eternal undying gratitude!). I was sitting there trying to figure out how to link all this stuff together without killing the amount of wire I can draw, and I realized something. You know that big hook on the end of the strap on the boat winch? If you cut the strap off above where it’s sewn, you can just put the O ring in the strap instead of that big hook and sew it back up with a leather awl. You don’t have to have a bunch of stuff all linked together or sand anything down. I got the draw tongs for $35, they had great reviews. I tested my leather awl on the strap folded over, it’s a LOT easier to sew than leather, I mean it’s like sewing butter, completely effortless. So I’m just going to do a simple lock stitch with the awl back and forth across the whole width of the strap folded over that O ring to make it really strong. I can’t sew or work a sewing machine to save my life, but I know how to use a leather awl, it’s a lot easier than sewing. Then the only thing that will be there are the tongs and the O ring. I haven’t tried it yet, still waiting on the tongs to get here, but I’ve got a really good feeling about it, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to work!! Thank you again for this, I can’t express how grateful I am that you came up with this brilliant idea and shared it on UA-cam.
Yes. But at what time do you consider it worth your time and money to buy the tools that will get the job done right much more quickly? It is always a trade off. So I did things the long way, until they raised enough money for me to buy the tools to do it the faster way.
Hi Melissa, thank you for the great video, it’s very useful, I’m going to make one for myself. Te the boat winch, the one you provided a link for is out of stock and I’m wondering if I should get a different one with the same sort of specs or if a lower weight capacity one will be ok? Ie 300 or 500kg instead of 2000lb (2000lb is approx 900kg) thanks 😊
It can be however long you want. Mine was 6 feet i believe. But I have changed it since this video. I now clamp just the winch at one end of my bench and use a vise to hold my plates.
Thanks so much Melissa...looks like a very do-able project. I do have one question...would a bar across the shelf brackets in the front allow for using the drawplate all the way out to the ends? Maybe it is the design of the drawplate (as you said, not a well made one) but it appears that the holes on the ends are not useable because there would be no support
Bethany Roth I think it is just the angle of the camera. There are holes out to the sides, but then a blank area of just steel that sit up against the brackets. You could put the brackets closer together and it would still work, I am sure.
Perhaps you could get a weldor to “hot glue” an extension on to the ends of the draw plate if the end holes are needed. (be sure to wrap your draw plate in a soggy wet rag when welding so as not to alter its temper or hardness)
I just did the same thing. Accept I used a vise I attached to a piece of board that I made adjustable so I can move it in our out depending on how long I wanted the wire to be all the way from 1ft away from the wench up to 8ft away making about 7ft of wire. But it seems these units are still running for about $550US on eBay. I was not about to spend money like that on something that can be done so easily and cheaply. I attached mine to a 4X6X8ft beem I had for years laying around. I had no clue why I even kept it. Now I know why.
I'm looking at this and thinking Ratcheting tie-downs, and a simple S-hook hooked into the modified vise grip would be strong enough. I use the 1" wide strap sized tie downs to help pull 1 ton hay bales off my pickup truck, so I think that might be strong enough - but I'd have to hack a bolt-down technique.
mommachupacabra I thought about that. But the ratcheting systems I am aware of wouldn’t give a nice steady pull the way a crank on the winch does. I am not well versed with these systems, so I could be wrong. But I would think that you would want that steady pull from the wheel of the winch.
Thank you. Yes, I think there might have been a few other ways to do this that would have been better. But it was all I knew how to come up with at the time. I have since changed this setup a little bit.
Thanks Grace. Yes, I did anneal the wire first. There were be several more videos showing how to use the draw bench coming up and that will be covered more in detail, but you should definitely anneal it before drawing it through, and again probably every 3rd pass or so.
I believe a single pulley just changes the direction of the applied force. There is no mechanical advantage. To decrease the amount of pull force required, you would need two pulleys but you pay for it by having to turn the crank twice as much.
@@ffaubert1 if you have one fixed anchor point near the winch, go through a pulley at the pliers, and back to the winch, you get double the force for pulling.
I'm not sure what each one has but we use them to pull our trucks from the mud all of the time and never had one break. I can only assume that the smaller ones would be able to withstand quite the load. I believe I read one small one had a 850# rating which is huge for the size it was. Their are so many different varieties, I just thought this style would work well. And you wouldn't have to worry about the boat hook as the pull weight would level itself out on it's own.
Instead of mounting everything on the board, why not just mount the draw plate to your bench and put the winch on a wall? That way you're only limited by the length of your winch cable. When you're finished with it just wind the winch up and you're good to go.
@@MelissaMuir I suppose folks could have a problem if their bench isn't heavy enough to resist the pulling force. My workbench is built into the wall in my basement so I don't have that issue.
@@MelissaMuir try not tightening up your bolts one at a time. Get them all halfway tight and then go around and give them each a bit of tightening until they're all tight. That way your brackets will not twist out of place like they did in the vid. thx for doing this!
I pay good money for video classes that are so sub-par to your presentations, it's pathetic. If I haven't said you're doing a nice thing and a good job here, I am now. I'm not distracted by kids running thru the video; nothing is out of the frame or out of focus; your voice is pleasant to listen to - I could go on. It's such a pleasant change to see someone who cares about doing these in a professional manner. Thank you.
Jessie Slaten thank you. ❤️
Nice vid. This helps me a lot. Your friend Andrew sent me. His vids are
“At the bench” he an another viewer sent me here. Awesome. I’m not able to get the expensive draw plate setup. I have all the basic tools to manufacture lots of variety. Earrings, rings, bangles, necklace, simple stone setting, some custom work over the years to get this far. Got my tools, bench, torch, crucible, but I lack good space.
I won’t give up.
No matter what anyone ever says or attempts to laugh me off, I choose to pursue this work.
I find my self saying one does not choose to make a ring and make it perfectly over night.
5 yrs in and counting I’ve barley touched my first 14 k rings. I lack a stamping setup to make hallmarking the ring work correctly.
The rolling mill made it, the rolling mill offers the solution to also hallmarking.
It’s a learning thing with the hallmarking as well but I mean specifically the gold. Sterling I’m more comfortable with hallmarking it.
This is awesome! A few days ago I saw the entry level table top draw bench by Durston and thought to myself I could build something similar that would work by using a winch. I had no idea what type of winch but I knew it needed a hand crank and I googled searched winches. You are correct, these winches are affordable compared to the $697 price tag at a major us-based jewelry supplier in Albuquerque. Willie, on the Ganoksin Orchid jewelers forum referred me to your tutorial and I must say you did such a superb job demonstrating how to make this (somewhat portable) draw bench. I'm sure you've saved lots of people lots of money. You also prevented my brain from having to think what else I needed beyond the winch. Now all I need is a workshop. LOL! 😄
Thank you so much for sharing this. YOU ARE AWESOME! 👍😊
I am so glad you found the video helpful.
Thanks so much, I literally just bought that winch and attached it to a board Like two weeks ago to make the thick wire needed for the bangle in project 1. Now I see this video and I’m ready to finish this thing. I agree, about the draw benches available at the jewelery tool companies .The only ones I could find were way too expensive and this seems like it’s gonna get the job done. Thanks again for creating and sharing another excellent and very useful video. The timing was literally perfect. Now I’m waiting for that Cuban link project lol ! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 great job as always Melissa . Keep up the great work .
A U thanks so much.
Thank you Melissa! I have wanted a draw bench for decades. Now, thanks to your clear and complete video, I have one! It cost me about $60 and it works great!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a little trick that I figured out when working in a factory. When your threading a nut onto a bolt, the less pressure you put on it, the easier the thread will catch. So just give a really light touch, and the thread will catch, and you won't have to splurge out cuss words =)
Outstanding video my favorite metalsmith, I love the humor added in about the nuts and bolts. Keep those videos coming. This is the 4th time I have watched.
Aww thank you for the smile. 😊
I did find this video informative. Thank you for sharing such a straightforward idea.
Well the good news here I have been looking in to the clamping thingy upon seeing this idea it's problem solved although I did think of it but thought it was going to twist or strip out the adjustment nut and cause problem but seeing this I guess I am wrong. Thank you for helping me got lots of old stuff out back a mistake Always welcome the things to learn about Anyhoo
Thank you for shareing
@@davidsteinfeld9123 I am so glad it was a little bit of help.
Thank you for the time you took to research the draw bench and make the
video!
D. Rennolds I am glad you found it helpful
Good job! I installed at the end I’
of my bench a cheap drill press vice so that I can really get a good pull of the draw plate! I secured it just as we both did of the boat winch! Then I can use all of the wholes on the plate, just unclamp and reposition! I’ll post of photo!
Can’t figure out how to post a photo! 🤦🏻♀️😂
That is a great idea. Perhaps you can post the photo somewhere and include a link? I don’t think UA-cam let’s you post a photo in the comment. Darn it.
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Nice job to get up and running with this drawbench! Thank you Melissa.
PS and FYI I just purchased the NTaH!-HammerStake Set and a couple other things from micro-tools. I love hammers! Thanks for the referral (smiley face).
I just did this yesterday and it turned out beautifully. I had been pulling wire manually and figured i was gonna hurt myself eventually and needed an easier way (and cheaper than the draw machine at rio). The only variation i made was using real draw tongs and a steel ring. I was concerned it wouldnt hold while drawing but so far it does. Thanks for the video!
Oh that is great. I am so glad to hear it. And yes, this is SOOOOOO much easier than the one from Rio.
thanks a lot for the tutorial Melissa was about to spend 600 bucks in a draw bench, you save me couple hundred bucks.
Berna Cepeda feel free to share the savings with me. 🤣😂
When we draw wires industrially, we use a lubricant, typically some kind of soap to make it easier to pull the wires trough the dies. Liquid detergent mixed with water might work on your small scale. Of course, we don't have to worry about the smoke that's generated when we anneal the wire because we have huge smoke eliminators on the ventilation system . That might be more of a problem in your shop.
Metallurg33 that is a very good tip. Thank you. It would make sense to lubricate it while pulling.
The home ones normally recommend beeswax
just made draw bench , 5ft long works great i appreciate your tutorial thaqnks
Glad it helped
Thank you ! Just bought my winch and brackets !
Woot. Happy pulling.
I love your video and I just finished my draw bench! Tomorrow I will start pulling wire! Thank you so much for your entertaining, easy to follow video. I took classes from Alan Revere in the early 2000's. Good for you for going through his awesome book and demonstrating the techniques.
Thank you. It has been fun to go through the book. I am glad you enjoy the videos.
Just what I was looking for! Thanks for sharing!
I will chisel out the wood to make the end brackets not protrude from the base.
That is a good idea.
THANK YOU !!!!
About the best tip ever !!!!
You are Smart, funny, pretty and very personable(which makes you a fabulous teacher)!!!!
Cory
Cory Streat thank you so much. ❤️
Very good idea in this no money times.
This is very similar to what i have drawn up as a DIY draw bench. Nicely done!
Hi
You should use the large drill bit first and the small one next. The large bit will make a centered pre-drill hole for the smaller one.
yeah..... that was one of the things I learned. LOL Thanks.
I’m definitely going to build something similar!
Update:
Manifestation occurs quickly. I went from a minds vision, to searching, to finding your video, to shopping for parts.
Thanks a bunch!
That is fantastic. I am so glad you were able to get it to work so quickly
@@MelissaMuir Today I’m buying my materials.
Trailer winch - strap style
4inch drill press
pending right now…
A nice plank of wood
Some bolts
A big thank you 😉
Whoaaaaa amazing idea! Thank You!
You'll get a much cleaner recess if you use the spade bit after drilling the small pilot holes, but before you drill the holes to fit the bolt shanks.
Love your videos hun. I watch them daily 🙏🏼 thank you for rekindling my passion for jewelry
Thank you. I am so glad to hear you enjoy them.
Sweet Melissa. Thank you!!!
Well done! Thank you for sharing this brilliant idea.I’ve always wanted my own draw bench because I draw a lot of wire. Now I can make one thanks to you.
Dani Vela-Perez I am so glad it was helpful. Thank you for the feedback.
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Brilliant!!! Thank you so very much!!
Excellent video Melissa. You make everything look nice and doable! Thank you
Dee Hebard thank you. I am glad it came together as easily as it did.
Thankyou so much for sharing this Melissa, I'll be making one soon xx
I hope you will post your results.
This is great! looking forward to create my own. Thanks!
Thank you sooo much for this video! I will be ordering all of these items to get my drawbench built!
Carmen Ponce De Leon one thing I would change, I wouldn’t make it quite so long. A shorter draw is easier to handle.
Amazing! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome video! Thanks for the great teaching!
Melisa Muir. Es fantástica es una brillante idea me gusta. Soy de Ecuador trabajo en joyeria. Gracias no se mucho el inglés pero lo. Entiendo
Thank you so much. I am glad you like the videos.
Cool drawplate. Thanks for sharing your video.
Ok, so. Use the draw tongs to get the wire to length, then add a spool to catch onto. Use a crank to crank the spool. You will then be able to make longer wire. If I'm not explaining it well enough, I can go into more detail.
I used to make chainmaille armor as a semi professional hobby the traditional way. This is what we did to get a great finish on the wire and exact, repeatable dimensions.
That totally makes sense.
Gracias...hermosa mujer...trabajadora...un abrazo desde lima peru
Thank you. Great video & easy to follow. 👍💚
Glad it was helpful!
You are so clever. Thank you for explaining. 🤗🤗🤗
Yes nice job bravo from From NY❤️🇧🇬
Here is a virtual fist-bump from Ireland. Thank you.
🤛 back at you. 🥰 thank you.
Checked out the price of the durston table top draw bench and here i am watching a video on how to make one 🤣🤣. .. i smell a DIY project approaching .. thank u soo much for this
I love this! I’ve been wondering how I could make one of these. Brilliant!
You rock Melissa 🤗
Thank you.
Definitely probably a better option than the big hook on the end of the Vise grip.
Can't imagine that was cheap compared to like a steel chain connector or something.
Thanks Melissa! Very helpful!
Renee Ann Hebert thank you. Glad you liked it.
LOVE IT!! Thank you for the great video!
amkreationz thank you. Glad you liked it
When using a spade bit use it first then drill the hole, your design is a bit more user friendly than mine I made my draw bench from 8"x 4"x 8' RSJ because that is what I had and a 40 year old winch, same reason it was in the shed. I had to remount the winch half way along as I am using normal draw tongs and I find that you have hold them closed at the beginning of the draw or they don't grip and 8' was just too log to be comfortable welded some legs and wheels on it it is too big for my studio so it lives outside in the carport under a tarp
pijnto yes thank you. I figured that out after I drilled the holes. Lol. Darn it. Of course you all get to see how I learn as I do the video. Sigh. 😁
Thank you very much 💞
Thank you thank you thank you!!! I absolutely don’t want to spend $1500 on a draw bench when the parts and pieces are really not very complicated or expensive to put together. It honestly just makes me really hate Durston and not want to buy anything from them because they rip their customers off soooooo badly. There’s no excuse for the prices they charge, and I’m not complying with it. You’ve given me a way to avoid them. So THANK YOU!!!
Don’t get me wrong, this will work okay. But it isn’t near the quality of a Durston.
That said, I do love my Durston tools and there are some I am willing to pay for. But where I don’t do a lot of drawing, it made more sense to make my own draw bench.
@@MelissaMuir I get it, I’m just more offended at their prices based on principle. I think even if I was a billionaire I would refuse to buy anything from them because their prices are outrageous. I mean really, why would it honestly cost that much when I can get the exact same thing on Amazon for a fraction of the price from a highly rated but off brand company? You know the Durston tabletop drawbench for $700? I was going to buy that. Then I read the reviews. Apparently the tongs won’t even reach anywhere near the drawplate. You apparently have to create a draw dog 5 inches long to even get it to where the tongs can grab it, which then reduces the amount of wire you end up with so I can’t even justify the cost to myself with ‘superior engineering’ as a reason.
So I went and got the equipment today to make this draw bench. I bought a pair of tongs on Amazon that have a steel O ring on them, I got the board, some L brackets, and the same boat winch from your link (thank you again, you’re a life saver and have my eternal undying gratitude!). I was sitting there trying to figure out how to link all this stuff together without killing the amount of wire I can draw, and I realized something. You know that big hook on the end of the strap on the boat winch? If you cut the strap off above where it’s sewn, you can just put the O ring in the strap instead of that big hook and sew it back up with a leather awl. You don’t have to have a bunch of stuff all linked together or sand anything down. I got the draw tongs for $35, they had great reviews. I tested my leather awl on the strap folded over, it’s a LOT easier to sew than leather, I mean it’s like sewing butter, completely effortless. So I’m just going to do a simple lock stitch with the awl back and forth across the whole width of the strap folded over that O ring to make it really strong. I can’t sew or work a sewing machine to save my life, but I know how to use a leather awl, it’s a lot easier than sewing. Then the only thing that will be there are the tongs and the O ring. I haven’t tried it yet, still waiting on the tongs to get here, but I’ve got a really good feeling about it, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to work!! Thank you again for this, I can’t express how grateful I am that you came up with this brilliant idea and shared it on UA-cam.
It works great!!!!!! I cut the hook off and sewed the O ring into the strap. It’s absolutely fantastic!!! You gotta try this!!!
@@nepentheoflethe this is all fantastic. And what a great idea to add the o ring the way you did. Thanks for sharing. ❤️
Awesome, what is the maximum wire thickness that you can start pulling now that you’re done with the project?
I could pull as large as my drawplates allow, Which in my my studio is about 2.5mm
vice bolted to a sturdy bench and some beeswax works well, can use the vice for other things.
Yes. That is how I do it now. 🥰
@@MelissaMuir Can you describe how you use the vise or where you put it on the bench? You mean you have a vise holding the draw plate now, right?
@@nepentheoflethe yes. My vise is mounted to the bench and it holds the drawplate.
If you don’t have drill press or files, maybe you have or could easily get a Dremel to do all the ruff sanding and grinding
Yes. But at what time do you consider it worth your time and money to buy the tools that will get the job done right much more quickly? It is always a trade off. So I did things the long way, until they raised enough money for me to buy the tools to do it the faster way.
Just a suggestion instead of the hook use a 1/4" shackle and cut the hook off the winch that will shorten it up a great deall
Ian Caristi thanks. That is a good suggestion.
Hi Melissa, thank you for the great video, it’s very useful, I’m going to make one for myself. Te the boat winch, the one you provided a link for is out of stock and I’m wondering if I should get a different one with the same sort of specs or if a lower weight capacity one will be ok? Ie 300 or 500kg instead of 2000lb (2000lb is approx 900kg) thanks 😊
Hi , great vid, I may have missed it but how long was the plank please?
It can be however long you want. Mine was 6 feet i believe. But I have changed it since this video. I now clamp just the winch at one end of my bench and use a vise to hold my plates.
I've just recently found your series, love them! I'm wondering if you clamp the draw bench down while using it?
Yes. I do clamp it down.
Thanks so much Melissa...looks like a very do-able project. I do have one question...would a bar across the shelf brackets in the front allow for using the drawplate all the way out to the ends? Maybe it is the design of the drawplate (as you said, not a well made one) but it appears that the holes on the ends are not useable because there would be no support
Bethany Roth I think it is just the angle of the camera. There are holes out to the sides, but then a blank area of just steel that sit up against the brackets. You could put the brackets closer together and it would still work, I am sure.
Perhaps you could get a weldor to “hot glue” an extension on to the ends of the draw plate if the end holes are needed. (be sure to wrap your draw plate in a soggy wet rag when welding so as not to alter its temper or hardness)
thank you so much very, helpful as always .
Thank you. I a, glad it was helpful.
you just saved me a lot of money:)
So glad I could help
Молодец, Мелисса!👍👏🍻 Спасибо за ролик!
Beautiful thanks😘
I just did the same thing. Accept I used a vise I attached to a piece of board that I made adjustable so I can move it in our out depending on how long I wanted the wire to be all the way from 1ft away from the wench up to 8ft away making about 7ft of wire. But it seems these units are still running for about $550US on eBay. I was not about to spend money like that on something that can be done so easily and cheaply. I attached mine to a 4X6X8ft beem I had for years laying around. I had no clue why I even kept it. Now I know why.
since this video, I have modified mine so it is now a similar setup to what you described. It works great and takes up so much less room.
I'm looking at this and thinking Ratcheting tie-downs, and a simple S-hook hooked into the modified vise grip would be strong enough. I use the 1" wide strap sized tie downs to help pull 1 ton hay bales off my pickup truck, so I think that might be strong enough - but I'd have to hack a bolt-down technique.
mommachupacabra I thought about that. But the ratcheting systems I am aware of wouldn’t give a nice steady pull the way a crank on the winch does. I am not well versed with these systems, so I could be wrong. But I would think that you would want that steady pull from the wheel of the winch.
@@MelissaMuir I have the same thoughts on the ratchet straps. I also use to pull my hay bales but as you stated it's not a constant draw.
gracias por el video desde chile .
I am glad it was helpful. 🥰
Very helpful video, Melissa - thank you! Is this draw bench strong enough to pull tubing?
I hope so. But I haven’t tried it yet. It should be.
you could have used a bow shackle to attach the winch to the grips to save using two hooks. `just an idea , but it’s still a great job well done.
Thank you. Yes, I think there might have been a few other ways to do this that would have been better. But it was all I knew how to come up with at the time. I have since changed this setup a little bit.
TIP! Holding the drawplate against the 'posts'. Just use one or two rubberbands/elastic cords.
super helpful!!!!
Beautiful
علي الطائي thank you.
What is the load capacity of boat winch
It depends on which one you buy.
Pl make video to sharp the catcher best way
Buenisimo buena idea linda😍
Nifty eye hook, where did you get it?
I put links in the description, but I picked mine up at Home Depot. It was just a part of the pliers.
Did you anneal your wire first?
I love the video!❤️
Thanks Grace. Yes, I did anneal the wire first. There were be several more videos showing how to use the draw bench coming up and that will be covered more in detail, but you should definitely anneal it before drawing it through, and again probably every 3rd pass or so.
If you add a pulley on the pliers it was reduce the work load by 50%
I believe a single pulley just changes the direction of the applied force. There is no mechanical advantage. To decrease the amount of pull force required, you would need two pulleys but you pay for it by having to turn the crank twice as much.
@@ffaubert1 if you have one fixed anchor point near the winch, go through a pulley at the pliers, and back to the winch, you get double the force for pulling.
/thank you Melissa. Man have I ever been butchering that name (Ganoksin) lol!
Debbie Minter I butchered it forever too. For years I thought it was gan-o-skin. Lol.
@@MelissaMuir LOL! I said it totally wrong even from how it's spelled! I said Gank-o-sin! What a nut! =D
Debbie Minter well, it isn’t exactly the easiest word to say in the first place. LOL.
nice
Melissa Muir...where did you get your black apron with your name and the word Metalsmith?
My mother made it for me. :) I have aprons for sale that say “Kiss the Metalsmith” If you are interested. They are denim and only $25.
Melissa Muir how do I go about ordering an apron from you?
Shoot me an email and I can get you an invoice. Melissa@melissamuir.com
Great GBU
A clevis attached to the vice grip side would work much smoother and would avoid having to file the opening. Great idea.
Something like this. www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01AYHWAGU/ref=sspa_mw_detail_5?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Stacy Clark I wonder if that would have the weight rating that the hook has.
I'm not sure what each one has but we use them to pull our trucks from the mud all of the time and never had one break. I can only assume that the smaller ones would be able to withstand quite the load. I believe I read one small one had a 850# rating which is huge for the size it was. Their are so many different varieties, I just thought this style would work well. And you wouldn't have to worry about the boat hook as the pull weight would level itself out on it's own.
Stacy Clark that is a good idea.
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Very good video, reference Andrew Berry At the Bench you tube
Jo Marshall thank you.
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Droplate price
Instead of mounting everything on the board, why not just mount the draw plate to your bench and put the winch on a wall? That way you're only limited by the length of your winch cable. When you're finished with it just wind the winch up and you're good to go.
Daniel Kadera since making this video, that is pretty much what I did. I need to do another video to show the new setup.
@@MelissaMuir I suppose folks could have a problem if their bench isn't heavy enough to resist the pulling force. My workbench is built into the wall in my basement so I don't have that issue.
Daniel Kadera good point. The bench I use for this is also attached to the wall.
Everyone thinks they can work a drill or screwdriver until they actually get one in their hand.
Maui Randall yup. I certainly learned a few lessons doing this one. 🤷♀️ At least I tried?
@@MelissaMuir try not tightening up your bolts one at a time. Get them all halfway tight and then go around and give them each a bit of tightening until they're all tight. That way your brackets will not twist out of place like they did in the vid. thx for doing this!
Just throw money! Hehehehe
Lol. Yes please.
whoa anyone try it with an electric winch? :D
yes someone did :-)
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