I have this one as my everyday carry. It loves Aquilar .22 40 grains. No misfires yet. I was a crime reporter for a newspaper back in the pre-internet era. In those 12 years, the vast majority of homicides i worked the victims were shot dead by .22 lr rounds. Im old now. Ive heard all the arguments against .22 as a carry weapon. Ive known many folks who teach handgun safety and training, proper stance, grip and all that and that a .22 isnt a good self defense weapon. None had ever had to use all their larger bore weapons. All that is fine but in real life, most incidents where you have to use your carry weapon will happen within 3 seconds and within 3 feet of your person. There simply isnt time to process all of that info unless you constantly train and hone your muscle memory. Like i said, im old, i walk with a cane in my left hand, so, with the rule of threes, i only have one hand available to use my weapon. Anything larger for me, than the lcpll isnt going to work - for me. Three weeks ago i was walking my dog and though im constantly keeping aware of my surroundings, a tall man appeared from behind a parked vehicle. He thought my dog peed on his car tire (he didnt, he just sniffed it). This fellow was about 6'2" and 180 pounds if i had to guess. He was enraged and completely manic cussing me and my little 15-pound puppy dog. I told him not to use that language in my neighborhood - he was visiting someone - and dont ever, ever, threaten to hurt my dog. He kept advancing until i put my hand under my shirt. He stopped, still cussing and even though i never had to actually pull my lcp out and use it, i was quite confident, even with one hand, i could have put him down with 10 well-placed .22 rounds. He was almost willing to die and meet Jesus because he thought a dog had pissed on a car tire. The point is - i remained calm, and confident that my lcpll would work as intended. The whole thing happened very quickly and in very close proximity. All the folks arguing against .22 - thats fine. Carry what works for you. But for my situation - an old crippled man walking his dog, the lcp is a nice handy weapon to have and I'm confident it will work as intended if the need arises.
This is the decision I am trying to make now. I am not a larger guy so I struggle trying to comfortably conceal a firearm. I have always been aware that .22 is responsible for more firearm related deaths regardless of what data you are looking at. The problem with .22 I am sure you are aware is that it very much lacks any stopping power. For instance, a larger man like you described may be able to do you great bodily injury or worse while sustaining multiple .22 rounds. This is even more true if they say draw a weapon of their own like a knife for instance. You might also be aware that in many fatal encounters both parties die from their injuries. The statistics are clear, as you go down in caliber these kinds of statistics go up for the simple fact of stopping power. A full grown man under his own adrenaline can continue an attack long after he has sustained fatal wounds. This is even more likely if he is under the influence of a drug that increases adrenaline. Anyway I am not trying to bash your opinion just trying to add my thoughts. I think the argument of "A .22 is better than the .45 left at home" is very much true. We live in crazy times and the unfortunate truth is I would like to have a firearm with me at all times. Everyone in todays day and age are crazy and they are ready to take that crazy out on the first stranger they cross paths with.
@Hexafox , the .380 LCP is almost identical in dimensions to the 22LR LCP II. Just make sure to getsone practice in, I’m also old and needed a grip sleeve to make mine less harsh to fire.
Most people carry to big and can't handle the recoil and like you said it happens so fast and if your scared of the recoil or what ever lcp will still do the deed plus less re coil for smaller people like me idk iv always like the small 22 guns to carry
@@HexaFox At 73 now my fingers are starting to really act up, I decided to get the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0. A 10 round and 12 round magazine comes with the pistol. I have to use a speed loader to put rounds in the magazines, no way my hands can do that these days. All I practice at the local range that I am a member is "point and shoot" one handed. This 380 doesn't feel like the older ones that slap your hand so bad and is a very accurate "point and shoot" weapon to me, just my 2 cents worth. I've ordered the LCP II lite rack 22lr for my wife. Hopefully she will stay interested and lean her weapon and its quirks.
I'm 68 and shooting handguns started becoming painful to shoot. I bought an LCP 22. What I found was my accuracy went way up along with my ability to hit the target without any pain. I can hit a target at 6 yards about the size of an 8" circle as fast as I can pull the trigger. If I just had more ammo....
As Paul said, you have to hit the right area. Me I carry an LCP2, but I aim for the Groin/Pelvic-Arch. A bigger easier target, no one want to fight with lead in their pants. ^~^
Very well done, sir! I can remember back in my early days as a rookie patrolman that the seasoned vets all thought a .22 auto was THE backup gun to have. These were guys who'd seen bodies and many of them were hunters too. A .22 autoloader with Stingers was considered perfect for BUG and for discreet OD carry (eventually when my dept allowed less than .380 to be carried off-duty). Of course a big reason for this was we didn't HAVE tiny little .32 and .380 pistols then. The Ruger and Kel-Tec, et al. micro .32/.380 pistols are smaller than some of the .22 autoloaders we preferred back in the day. Mine was a Beretta 21A that was, frankly thicker in the grip than it had any right to be. The only other "Proper" backup was a .38 snub (of course). Then the Kel-Tec .32 came out and everyone had to have one. Then the Kel-Tec .380 came out and we all rushed to get that one ... then Ruger ... well ... I think "Came up with" is giving them too much credit, but their version IS the more popular one and I think that was the #1 BUG/OD gun when I retired in June 2014. With the micros, no one wanted a .22 or .25 anymore. I've seen many head wounds from .22LR and .25 acp (pretty much the same thing from a short barrel as you state) and most suicides and a couple homicides I've either worked or reviewed had perps/victims dead right there. Then again, I've seen an unknown brand/type of .22 LR from a rifle go through a guy's forearm and not even be bleeding when I got to him. Placement is king with EVERY handgun round, but essential with small calibers. My ex-wife had a shattered forearm from a car crash, her arm being held together with a plate and six screws. Recoil was unbearable. She could shoot .22s and .25s all day, though. So she got REALLY good with them. When we parted ways she had a Beretta 21A in .22 and a Walther PPK/s in .22 LR, both of which she can shoot fast and well. Folks criticized me for "only" giving her "just" a .22, nevermind that A. SHE picked them out and bought them, B. she trained with them religiously, and C. ONE shot with a Beretta .380 and she couldn't use her right arm for a whole day. Hmm ... I might send her a link to this video along with a suggestion she check out the Ruger LCP II. I think she just retired too and is about to move to a somewhat more criminally active area to be near her parents. Gotta love mature relationships where you don't have to waste time hating each other.
Same with my wife. She fell and shattered her elbow. She had to have hard parts put in her elbow to repair it. She can only shoot a 22 now. Her favorite pistol to shoot is my Rugar Mk2.
People have to be nuts to rely on a small 22LR Semi-Auto for self defense. Small 22LR Semi-Auto firing pins DO NOT strike rimfire cartridges aa hard as larger rimfire handguns, rifles, or revolvers do. That makes them dangerously unreliable for self defense. People carrying guns like this for aelf defense are relying on a false sense of security. Get a rimfire revolver for CCW or go with a small centerfire instead.
@@JohnB-dr8sk - The .22 autos I've seen all had excellent firing pin hits. Insofar as reliability, all the ones any of us relied on were shot a LOT in practice and whatnot. My ex wife didn't consider a range trip worthy if she didn't fire at least 300 rounds or more, sometimes a whole brick. Using good ammo, we seldom had any issues, at least since the early 90s. FWIW, a lot of the people that must rely on .22s due to recoil issues, and such cannot manage the DA trigger of a rimfire revolver.
Roger that ! Years ago, someone tried to break into our house one night. Dad was working, so it was just me and mom there. They tried coming through my bedroom window 1st. It was locked. But that alerted mom. She grabbed me up out of bed (I was 7), and grabbed a Marlin lever action 22 rifle dad had just bought for me (my 1st gun). Anyway, next they tried to get in through our back door. It was locked but they kept trying. Mom hollered "I have a gun!". They jiggled the door again-mom put a round right through the door. That sent them running! Mom called the cops. They told her "Good job. If he comes back, do it again!". That 22 rifle saved US that night. That was 50 years ago. I've still got that old rifle. I can't count the squirrels and rabbits I've taken with it over the years.
@@gregb6469 That works until it doesn't. Showing a firearm only discourages those who are in their right mind. I would take a 22 over my firsts any day but to imply 22 is as good as any other caliber because it's a gun is very dangerous. Just brandishing a firearm might not stop that meth head who is delusional and wants to hurt you. It's very unfortunate but sometimes you need to be able to neutralize a threat with maximum efficiency that will also ensure you will be able to go home afterwards
I love this little gun. This was my girls first .22, and her first carry gun. Excellent little pistol to learn and practice on, and the manual safety gives her peace of mind.
I have the Ruger SR22 in .22lr and I have been EXTREMELY happy with it. It is very accurate, very reliable (about 3000+ rounds of assorted ammo so far and not one stoppage) and fits my hand very well for a small pistol.
Yes I agree ! I have the SR22 & its small enough for a CCW. Also have a Taurus TX 22 semi auto which is another great 22LR pistol to shoot but a little bit larger overall. Both those pistols are fun to shoot & pretty reliable even using the bulk Remington Golden Bullet 36 grn hollows or the bulk Browning 36 grn hollows.
Paul- Never bothered you with my mondain opinions before, but I just cleared the benchmark of spending 1 whole year of accumulated viewing time of your vids. I am 68, busted up from open heart surgery and arthritis. Being a realist, I carry on an everyday basis. I had to give up more powerful handguns in favor of 22lr. The choices really came down to Beretta 21A or the Ruger LCP II of this presentation. Your findings compared favorably to mine in that the Ruger seemed to be a bit less reliable with some ammo. I carry CCI Stinger. Also the tip up bbl and mag thumb button are life savers for old hands. Good job in this one! But, as always, *I* would not try this at home, as you ARE the professional. Many thanks for the great info and viewing. Keep up the great work!
Very concise Paul. Thank you. You are a rare gem in firearm review channels, and I will be subscribing. I found your explanations to be much more engaging than the actual shooting.
Small semi-auto pistols tend to be sensitive to several things: ammunition, lubrication, cleanliness, grip, etc. The smaller they are, the more sensitive they tend to be. Add in a long, skinny, rimmed cartridge that was NOT designed to function in a semi-auto action, and it is surprising that they work as well as they do.
I would agree. Your point that a pistol is best chosen when it shoots ammo design for a pistol, is sound reasoning. Loading ammo into the chamber from a clip, firing, and ejecting the spent case is a complex mechanical operation, and I would want a cartridge like the .380, or 9MM which seems like it wants to load successfully. The .22LR was not designed for a pistol. However, my Ruger Mark IV bull barrel .22LR pistol never failed me. But, I only put 4 or 5 boxes of ammo through it, and decided to switch over to revolvers. Still, I felt that I could rely on that Ruger Mark IV. The only thing I disliked about it is the re-assembly procedure, otherwise, I would recommend the pistol.
I remember and old police chief I worked for when I was first starting out in ... oh ... '88 or so? ... looking with disdain at a little Beretta .22 I'd bought. "Little guns JAM!" he told me. I bet right now, long retired, he's toting an LCP or some such. ;) Technology improves, thank goodness.
So as always, an excellent review. I do wish though, that Paul would sample CCI Velocitors in tests like these. I have used hundreds of Velocitors in similar "defensive" handgun tests and find they are far superior to Mini-Mags, Stingers, or any other 22LR ammo.
Thanks Paul and crew. I appreciate this video and topic.
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Another real time no bs review, and always followed by you be the judge, my bobcat is sensitive to what you feed it in 22lr, find the sweet spot and stay there...thanks Mr. Paul
Pauls channel is the only channel that I will sit and watch a 4 minute AD of two people chanting and dancing in a language I do not understand. Paul your worth every minute of that 4 minutes.
@Umbrella Cop a crazy ex apparently from what he's said. I doubt Paul will want to go into the details of what appears to have been a tumultuous episode in his life. What I would like more than anything is to hear more "Joe" stories. I could listen to them for hours. You hear me Mr. Harrell? Hours.....
I'd love to see a Forgotten Weapons / Paul Harrell crossover someday! The combination of academic knowledge and practical knowledge/experience would be legendary.
mrpibb7781 Did you see in the comments of InRange’s last community post he wished death on a commenter for mentioning Herd Immunity? And there were a disturbing number of people that thought that that was the right thing of him to do.
Damn Paul I miss the videos over quarantine when you was putting 1 out every few days. I’ve gobbled up most of the old episodes. Don’t stop doing what you do 👍💪
Personally, I like my LCP .22 and it usually serves as a BUG, or when I just want something small to carry when I'm out walking or doing yard work. It could be a defensive carry gun, I certainly wouldn't want to stop 4-5 mini-mags at close range. Another great test by Paul Harrell.
There is a guy on an extremely popular firearms (ammunition) channel who is intelligent and very articulate. Unfortunately he expresses a lot of opinion/personal preference as absolutes, positive and negative, and uses information as "fact" when the info can be legitimately questioned.
Personal experience on the Rugers: Magazine disconnect mechanisms are likely to be responsible for the light primer strikes. When I take them out, light strikes do not happen anymore.
With this LCP 2 22lr, the mag disconnect is only a tiny rotating part behind the trigger. When the mag is removed, it swivels around so that the trigger hits it. It only prevents the trigger from being pulled, and does not interact with anything else. To remove it, the aluminum chassis must be taken out of the grip. This requires removing the hammer spring, and then removing two pins. It is best to follow a video of someone doing a disassembly, because the thing pretty much falls apart when you pull it out of the grip. The light strikes seem to be a simple matter of a hammer spring that is too light. I installed a Galloway Precision spring and it hits primers harder than my sr22.
My dear old dad always said a punch in the nose will change someone's mind... I figure a .22 to the nose will do the same thing. More or less. Thanks for what you do Paul, you're a gem and priceless to this community.
Anything that comes close to resembling a human head would be controversial. I have no doubt there are military and/or law enforcement agencies that do such testing, probably with actual cadavers, and keep it under wraps.
1. I've binge watched nearly all of your videos in the past week. Thank you for all the work you put into them. 2. Has Paul done any videos on gun maintenance and cleaning? 3. As a new gun owner I am interested in the general knowledge of what and why, in regards to gun cleaning. I know maintenance and cleaning varies greatly between firearm models. I have yet to buy a gun cleaning kit, though I do plan on buying more guns in the future and want to get a good gun cleaning setup now that will serve for years to come.
Hey Paul Harrell .. I think your videos are the most logical and well thought out Firearm related content on youtube.. good on you buddy ! My favorite is how you try your best to simulate the theoretical damage done using oranges/meats and his "high tec fleece backstop" is Ace!
Remington Yellow Jacket vs. CCI Stinger: I've been playing with both of these in my .22 rifles for years. I LOVE the terminal effect of the Yellow Jacket on small game, and believe it performs BETTER than the Stinger in that respect. HOWEVER... I have experienced functioning issues with the Yellow Jackets in pretty much EVERY semi-automatic platform (rifle OR pistol) that I have used them in; primarily failures to fire and failures to feed. And as Paul would say, "That's a problem.". My solution: I shoot Yellow Jackets in my bolt rifles or in revolvers. In semi-autos, if I'm loading hollowpoints, they're usually Stingers.
Seems like thats the results he was getting too. I just purchased this ruger to replace my NAA mini revolver. I will cont loading the NAA with the remingtons, but Ill be getting some stingers for the ruger
One of my favorites this year. Works out excellent for a backup, yard work, or super deep concealment. I've had pretty good reliability thus far, and it's actually quite a bit of fun, in my opinion.
Never understood the doublestrike thing. If someone attacks you and you pull your gun and it fails to fire, are you gonna keep pulling the trigger or tap rack bang? I know what im doing.
Thanks again, Mr. Harrell. Your videos are far and away the best and to me, at least, the least biased demonstrations out there. I'm still hoping for a video on the Beretta APX Compact in 9mm, as I'd really like to see your opinion of the firearm.
Thanks for you time Paul!! I personally did not like The LCP when it came out in 380. I’m in New York State so I had to buy it before I could even toss a round out of it. Thanks for your review!!
I was fortunate enough to be able to shoot a friend's, so I didn't have to make that mistake. Interestingly enough, I found that the Springfield 911 (and the SIG that's the same gun, I can't remember the number) is very comfortable to shoot by comparison! I liked it enough that I bought one myself. So don't pre-judge all pocket .380s by that one, they're not all that nasty! :)
That 22 seems to have a longer trigger pull as noted. As to that little "pocket sleeve (holster)" that can be real important as to being within carrying laws or not . Some places it is illegal to carry/have an unholstered pistol on your person or in your vehicle, That little pocket sleeve can fly in under the legal radar as a holster . I got to give Ruger some credit for including them with the LCP's
(8:27)That was so funny, yet so cool hearing you quickly describe the composition of "THE MEAT TARGET" so quickly. If I had a drink going, I would re-watch that 5 times!
I'm not sure how the rest of the US workforce is doing during the current COVID-19 situation, but Paul Harrell's local meat market is doing well! Great video, thanks for sharing!
And let's not forget that there are some great small revolvers out there chambered for both 22LR and 22 Magnum! Smith & Wesson, Taurus, and Ruger all make some really good quality 22 revolvers. Most hold 8 shots. And if you have a misfire you don't have to stop and pull immediate action to clear the gun, all you have to do is pull the trigger again.
Yep ! Got a Smith & Wesson model 43C coming today. After watching Hickok 45 do a comparison between the Ruger 22LCR versus the 43C he makes the point of light weight / concealing / all day carry which sold me but its extra $$$.
@missouripatriot6926 The Smith 43c and 351c (the 22 magnum version) both have a lot of lightening cuts. That extra machining ups the cost, as do the upgraded sights and the aluminum cylinder. They are stupid lightweight! I still think the J frame rimfire guns are overpriced, but they do have reasons to be more expensive.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns Uh oh, I see a trend starting. Was just waiting for first meat target somewhere else. Haven't seen MAC vid but at least it was by super classy GunTuber. Better stock up on ribs now. Lotta gun channels. L8r.
Love the meat target portion of his presentations and so does his local butcher. I imagine when Paul asks for ribs his butcher asks, “1) are you gonna eat it or shoot it, 2) if you’re gonna shoot it what caliber are you gonna use, and yes it makes A LOT of difference. I have a video on it Paul, but that’s the short version.”
Great gun. I agree that 22lr is an adequate defensive round. I had an LCR in 22. The trigger weight, with the rimfire, was a bit more than I cared for. My EDC is an LCR in 38. I load it with super low recoil wadcutters. Love this little pocket pal.
Primer sometimes is not evenly distributed in the rim. The area first struck might have been low or no primer. Turning it can allow it to ignite. Sometimes, even that does not work.
I've picked up a lot of them over a few years at my local range. My thinking is that as my kids get to shooting 1, free ammo & 2, since they may not go off i can watch for flinching easier. Back in the day I have had a few that didn't fire after 5 strikes, but most worked after a second
I see the loading tool as being potentially better than magazine follower tabs. With tabs I can see potentially pulling the follower down enough to allow the rounds to stack improperly, leading to rim lock. The loading tool seems to only push the top round enough to allow you to slide the next one back on top of it, effectively preventing rim lock.
@Robert Haring I don't think it would be a problem to somebody experience, but for a first time buyer, I see a chance (albeit slight) that they could pull the follower down too far with the loading tabs and drop the top round down on the next one without being sure they're stacked properly.
I agree. Also, I have always found those loading tabs very painful on the fingertips, especially after more than one or two mags, and especially with the last two or three rounds going into each mag. Get a LuLa loader, then never look back.
The “Professor” was always my go to for any technical information. Rest in peace Mr. Harrell
“A half inch more can be a lot more depending on what you’re measuring.” Touché Paul... touché...
Give me an inch and I’m a king.
Take an inch and I’m a queen.
Yeah, that totally cracked me up
It's not the length of the barrel that matters it's the thicker calibre.
@@madrod6119 Whatever you gotta tell yourself bro.😉
Just like my wife says..
"Looks like an inch, smells like a foot."
I have this one as my everyday carry. It loves Aquilar .22 40 grains. No misfires yet. I was a crime reporter for a newspaper back in the pre-internet era. In those 12 years, the vast majority of homicides i worked the victims were shot dead by .22 lr rounds. Im old now. Ive heard all the arguments against .22 as a carry weapon. Ive known many folks who teach handgun safety and training, proper stance, grip and all that and that a .22 isnt a good self defense weapon. None had ever had to use all their larger bore weapons. All that is fine but in real life, most incidents where you have to use your carry weapon will happen within 3 seconds and within 3 feet of your person. There simply isnt time to process all of that info unless you constantly train and hone your muscle memory. Like i said, im old, i walk with a cane in my left hand, so, with the rule of threes, i only have one hand available to use my weapon. Anything larger for me, than the lcpll isnt going to work - for me. Three weeks ago i was walking my dog and though im constantly keeping aware of my surroundings, a tall man appeared from behind a parked vehicle. He thought my dog peed on his car tire (he didnt, he just sniffed it). This fellow was about 6'2" and 180 pounds if i had to guess. He was enraged and completely manic cussing me and my little 15-pound puppy dog. I told him not to use that language in my neighborhood - he was visiting someone - and dont ever, ever, threaten to hurt my dog. He kept advancing until i put my hand under my shirt. He stopped, still cussing and even though i never had to actually pull my lcp out and use it, i was quite confident, even with one hand, i could have put him down with 10 well-placed .22 rounds. He was almost willing to die and meet Jesus because he thought a dog had pissed on a car tire. The point is - i remained calm, and confident that my lcpll would work as intended. The whole thing happened very quickly and in very close proximity. All the folks arguing against .22 - thats fine. Carry what works for you. But for my situation - an old crippled man walking his dog, the lcp is a nice handy weapon to have and I'm confident it will work as intended if the need arises.
This is the decision I am trying to make now. I am not a larger guy so I struggle trying to comfortably conceal a firearm. I have always been aware that .22 is responsible for more firearm related deaths regardless of what data you are looking at. The problem with .22 I am sure you are aware is that it very much lacks any stopping power. For instance, a larger man like you described may be able to do you great bodily injury or worse while sustaining multiple .22 rounds. This is even more true if they say draw a weapon of their own like a knife for instance. You might also be aware that in many fatal encounters both parties die from their injuries. The statistics are clear, as you go down in caliber these kinds of statistics go up for the simple fact of stopping power. A full grown man under his own adrenaline can continue an attack long after he has sustained fatal wounds. This is even more likely if he is under the influence of a drug that increases adrenaline. Anyway I am not trying to bash your opinion just trying to add my thoughts. I think the argument of "A .22 is better than the .45 left at home" is very much true. We live in crazy times and the unfortunate truth is I would like to have a firearm with me at all times. Everyone in todays day and age are crazy and they are ready to take that crazy out on the first stranger they cross paths with.
@Hexafox , the .380 LCP is almost identical in dimensions to the 22LR LCP II. Just make sure to getsone practice in, I’m also old and needed a grip sleeve to make mine less harsh to fire.
Most people carry to big and can't handle the recoil and like you said it happens so fast and if your scared of the recoil or what ever lcp will still do the deed plus less re coil for smaller people like me idk iv always like the small 22 guns to carry
@@HexaFox At 73 now my fingers are starting to really act up, I decided to get the new S&W Bodyguard 2.0. A 10 round and 12 round magazine comes with the pistol. I have to use a speed loader to put rounds in the magazines, no way my hands can do that these days. All I practice at the local range that I am a member is "point and shoot" one handed. This 380 doesn't feel like the older ones that slap your hand so bad and is a very accurate "point and shoot" weapon to me, just my 2 cents worth. I've ordered the LCP II lite rack 22lr for my wife. Hopefully she will stay interested and lean her weapon and its quirks.
I'm 68 and shooting handguns started becoming painful to shoot. I bought an LCP 22. What I found was my accuracy went way up along with my ability to hit the target without any pain. I can hit a target at 6 yards about the size of an 8" circle as fast as I can pull the trigger. If I just had more ammo....
As Paul said, you have to hit the right area. Me I carry an LCP2, but I aim for the Groin/Pelvic-Arch. A bigger easier target, no one want to fight with lead in their pants. ^~^
What kind of handguns did you use to shoot before?
@@anthonyarcher7268 Nasty
@@jamesharris184 It is True not nasty. I would tell him to mind his own business at 68 and know one will think of him as a threat.
@@elgato2642 Tell that to all the meth users who will stop at nothing to get money. I do mind my own business unlike you.
If you ever stop doing this. I will miss you a lot. Thanks for your service.
Damn
@@austinleal9470RIP Paul…you will be missed 😢😢😢
RIP Paul.
Giving the people what they needed without asking. Thanks, Paul!
And zero personal politics . Rare for a gun channel
Very well done, sir!
I can remember back in my early days as a rookie patrolman that the seasoned vets all thought a .22 auto was THE backup gun to have. These were guys who'd seen bodies and many of them were hunters too. A .22 autoloader with Stingers was considered perfect for BUG and for discreet OD carry (eventually when my dept allowed less than .380 to be carried off-duty). Of course a big reason for this was we didn't HAVE tiny little .32 and .380 pistols then. The Ruger and Kel-Tec, et al. micro .32/.380 pistols are smaller than some of the .22 autoloaders we preferred back in the day. Mine was a Beretta 21A that was, frankly thicker in the grip than it had any right to be. The only other "Proper" backup was a .38 snub (of course). Then the Kel-Tec .32 came out and everyone had to have one. Then the Kel-Tec .380 came out and we all rushed to get that one ... then Ruger ... well ... I think "Came up with" is giving them too much credit, but their version IS the more popular one and I think that was the #1 BUG/OD gun when I retired in June 2014. With the micros, no one wanted a .22 or .25 anymore.
I've seen many head wounds from .22LR and .25 acp (pretty much the same thing from a short barrel as you state) and most suicides and a couple homicides I've either worked or reviewed had perps/victims dead right there. Then again, I've seen an unknown brand/type of .22 LR from a rifle go through a guy's forearm and not even be bleeding when I got to him. Placement is king with EVERY handgun round, but essential with small calibers.
My ex-wife had a shattered forearm from a car crash, her arm being held together with a plate and six screws. Recoil was unbearable. She could shoot .22s and .25s all day, though. So she got REALLY good with them. When we parted ways she had a Beretta 21A in .22 and a Walther PPK/s in .22 LR, both of which she can shoot fast and well. Folks criticized me for "only" giving her "just" a .22, nevermind that A. SHE picked them out and bought them, B. she trained with them religiously, and C. ONE shot with a Beretta .380 and she couldn't use her right arm for a whole day. Hmm ... I might send her a link to this video along with a suggestion she check out the Ruger LCP II. I think she just retired too and is about to move to a somewhat more criminally active area to be near her parents. Gotta love mature relationships where you don't have to waste time hating each other.
Same with my wife. She fell and shattered her elbow. She had to have hard parts put in her elbow to repair it. She can only shoot a 22 now. Her favorite pistol to shoot is my Rugar Mk2.
That's good to hear about your relationship! I wish the world was more like that.
Glad to hear that you and your ex are friendly with each other.
Waaaaay too many people do not manage that.
People have to be nuts to rely on a small 22LR Semi-Auto for self defense. Small 22LR Semi-Auto firing pins DO NOT strike rimfire cartridges aa hard as larger rimfire handguns, rifles, or revolvers do. That makes them dangerously unreliable for self defense. People carrying guns like this for aelf defense are relying on a false sense of security. Get a rimfire revolver for CCW or go with a small centerfire instead.
@@JohnB-dr8sk - The .22 autos I've seen all had excellent firing pin hits. Insofar as reliability, all the ones any of us relied on were shot a LOT in practice and whatnot. My ex wife didn't consider a range trip worthy if she didn't fire at least 300 rounds or more, sometimes a whole brick. Using good ammo, we seldom had any issues, at least since the early 90s.
FWIW, a lot of the people that must rely on .22s due to recoil issues, and such cannot manage the DA trigger of a rimfire revolver.
People pan the 22 LR for defense but, it still more effective than yelling "Help! Help!" ...
And since in many cases all that is necessary to force a perp to retreat is to show him that you are armed, a .22 is as effective as a .45.
Roger that ! Years ago, someone tried to break into our house one night. Dad was working, so it was just me and mom there. They tried coming through my bedroom window 1st. It was locked. But that alerted mom. She grabbed me up out of bed (I was 7), and grabbed a Marlin lever action 22 rifle dad had just bought for me (my 1st gun). Anyway, next they tried to get in through our back door. It was locked but they kept trying. Mom hollered "I have a gun!". They jiggled the door again-mom put a round right through the door. That sent them running! Mom called the cops. They told her "Good job. If he comes back, do it again!". That 22 rifle saved US that night. That was 50 years ago. I've still got that old rifle. I can't count the squirrels and rabbits I've taken with it over the years.
@@gregb6469 Problem is showing a gun without shooting is illegal in my state.
@@lucky43113 -- What a stupid law! They'd rather you shoot someone than just scare him off?
@@gregb6469 That works until it doesn't. Showing a firearm only discourages those who are in their right mind. I would take a 22 over my firsts any day but to imply 22 is as good as any other caliber because it's a gun is very dangerous. Just brandishing a firearm might not stop that meth head who is delusional and wants to hurt you. It's very unfortunate but sometimes you need to be able to neutralize a threat with maximum efficiency that will also ensure you will be able to go home afterwards
Paul's so disciplined that his misfires look like he planned them out.
lol
Lol
He did misfire. The bullet gave up on life.
exactly
lol
"A half inch more can be a lot more depending on what you're measuring"
-Paul Harrell 2020
That's what she said.
@@thomast8539 yea i caught that and immediately checked on here to see if anyone else did.. heheh
@@THPOOKY I'd like to second your motion but know it's a moot point. PH is way too smart to be POTUS.
@@budm9982 Also... Greatly overqualified lol
A penis?
I love this little gun. This was my girls first .22, and her first carry gun. Excellent little pistol to learn and practice on, and the manual safety gives her peace of mind.
I have the Ruger SR22 in .22lr and I have been EXTREMELY happy with it. It is very accurate, very reliable (about 3000+ rounds of assorted ammo so far and not one stoppage) and fits my hand very well for a small pistol.
Yes I agree ! I have the SR22 & its small enough for a CCW. Also have a Taurus TX 22 semi auto which is another great 22LR pistol to shoot but a little bit larger overall. Both those pistols are fun to shoot & pretty reliable even using the bulk Remington Golden Bullet 36 grn hollows or the bulk Browning 36 grn hollows.
Paul- Never bothered you with my mondain opinions before, but I just cleared the benchmark of spending 1 whole year of accumulated viewing time of your vids. I am 68, busted up from open heart surgery and arthritis. Being a realist, I carry on an everyday basis. I had to give up more powerful handguns in favor of 22lr. The choices really came down to Beretta 21A or the Ruger LCP II of this presentation. Your findings compared favorably to mine in that the Ruger seemed to be a bit less reliable with some ammo. I carry CCI Stinger. Also the tip up bbl and mag thumb button are life savers for old hands. Good job in this one! But, as always, *I* would not try this at home, as you ARE the professional. Many thanks for the great info and viewing. Keep up the great work!
Paul is my favourite gun channel. He's clever, well spoken, and just so damn cool! He probs won't see this comment, but i hope he does.
Very concise Paul. Thank you. You are a rare gem in firearm review channels, and I will be subscribing. I found your explanations to be much more engaging than the actual shooting.
Rest well Paul, You are missed....
Did he pass away?
"A half inch more can be a lot more depending on what you're measuring"
Paul Harrell
That's what she said...
😁
John-Paul Whew! I thought it was just me that noticed that line.
Did you see him slightly smirk when he said that? He knew what we would think!! :D
@@tlee656 I do believe Paul knows his audience...
Still my favorite gun channel
As always good info! Rest in peace!
thanks for the info
Mr g. You carry LCP II 22 ?me too.
Small semi-auto pistols tend to be sensitive to several things: ammunition, lubrication, cleanliness, grip, etc. The smaller they are, the more sensitive they tend to be. Add in a long, skinny, rimmed cartridge that was NOT designed to function in a semi-auto action, and it is surprising that they work as well as they do.
Yup . Was warned My Walther p22 would be horrible and Jam. I put 800 rounds Las week and had zero issues , even with cheap federal ammo.
I would agree. Your point that a pistol is best chosen when it shoots ammo design for a pistol, is sound reasoning. Loading ammo into the chamber from a clip, firing, and ejecting the spent case is a complex mechanical operation, and I would want a cartridge like the .380, or 9MM which seems like it wants to load successfully. The .22LR was not designed for a pistol. However, my Ruger Mark IV bull barrel .22LR pistol never failed me. But, I only put 4 or 5 boxes of ammo through it, and decided to switch over to revolvers. Still, I felt that I could rely on that Ruger Mark IV. The only thing I disliked about it is the re-assembly procedure, otherwise, I would recommend the pistol.
I remember and old police chief I worked for when I was first starting out in ... oh ... '88 or so? ... looking with disdain at a little Beretta .22 I'd bought. "Little guns JAM!" he told me. I bet right now, long retired, he's toting an LCP or some such. ;) Technology improves, thank goodness.
@@mu99ins I don't know of any .22LR that uses a clip
"not designed to function in a semi auto action" The Ruger 10-22, Marlin Model 60, Mossberg 715, etc run great.
The review I didn't know I wanted.
So as always, an excellent review. I do wish though, that Paul would sample CCI Velocitors in tests like these. I have used hundreds of Velocitors in similar "defensive" handgun tests and find they are far superior to Mini-Mags, Stingers, or any other 22LR ammo.
Thanks Paul and crew. I appreciate this video and topic.
Another real time no bs review, and always followed by you be the judge, my bobcat is sensitive to what you feed it in 22lr, find the sweet spot and stay there...thanks Mr. Paul
Mine Beretta was very picky. All it would run with was of all things, cheap Remington 40 gr LRN. It wouldn't feed anything else. Weird.
Always a good day when a Paul Harrell review goes live!
A fresh beer and a new Paul video, life doesn't suck for 19 minutes.
He was going to test the Ticondas, but you know...
I totally read that as “Tyyyiiicaaawndaaas” in my head lol.
@@LegatusGaius lol same
Hurtenburgers
Tea-Kwon-Does
Not my Ticooooooonndas!
Thanks. Revisited this today. I’ve been thinking about shooting more 22 now since ammo prices are horrible and I miss going to the range.
Pauls channel is the only channel that I will sit and watch a 4 minute AD of two people chanting and dancing in a language I do not understand. Paul your worth every minute of that 4 minutes.
“One half inch more can be a lot more depending upon what you are measuring.” I agree completely and have asserted that in my own defense.
Great review. Thanks for the years of great content.
Hey, Paul. Do you want an offer, that you can't refuse?
Okay, here we are: have a nice day. Yeah, read that, instead of hAtE-mAil
:)
👍👍👍👍👍
@Umbrella Cop a crazy ex apparently from what he's said. I doubt Paul will want to go into the details of what appears to have been a tumultuous episode in his life. What I would like more than anything is to hear more "Joe" stories. I could listen to them for hours. You hear me Mr. Harrell? Hours.....
@Umbrella Cop Wilbur Force is a character in The Little Shop of Horrors. He is played by Jack Nicholson, in his breakout role.
Thanks Paul. Excellent presentation and demonstration.
Paul please start a channel that discusses all your dental knowledge. Majority of us would start taking out dental health seriously.
Thank you for another outstanding evidence based presentation. I appreciate it
"A half inch more CAN be a lot more depending on what you're measuring" God I love Paul
I'd love to see a Forgotten Weapons / Paul Harrell crossover someday! The combination of academic knowledge and practical knowledge/experience would be legendary.
knurlgnar24 I wish we could trade Paul for Karl on InRange.
@@HughesEnterprises I generally really like Karl but sometimes he does grate on the ol nerves
mrpibb7781 Did you see in the comments of InRange’s last community post he wished death on a commenter for mentioning Herd Immunity? And there were a disturbing number of people that thought that that was the right thing of him to do.
@@HughesEnterprises link please ? I really wanna see it lol
Austro-Hungarian Citizen I just checked. He deleted half the comments. So much for upholding free speech.
Thanks Paul, another good presentation.
Damn Paul I miss the videos over quarantine when you was putting 1 out every few days. I’ve gobbled up most of the old episodes. Don’t stop doing what you do 👍💪
Personally, I like my LCP .22 and it usually serves as a BUG, or when I just want something small to carry when I'm out walking or doing yard work. It could be a defensive carry gun, I certainly wouldn't want to stop 4-5 mini-mags at close range.
Another great test by Paul Harrell.
Any reliability issues with yours?
Thanks Paul
I always learn something when I come here sir.
as always another great video from Paul.
Thank you for the videos Paul. My family and I learn a lot about firearms through you
7:30 find yourself somebody who can talk this quickly and still make each syllable clear and audible.
Paul Harrell, the eminem of the gun community
Donovan sharpe
There is a guy on an extremely popular firearms (ammunition) channel who is intelligent and very articulate. Unfortunately he expresses a lot of opinion/personal preference as absolutes, positive and negative, and uses information as "fact" when the info can be legitimately questioned.
@@Salieri47Colion?
Personal experience on the Rugers: Magazine disconnect mechanisms are likely to be responsible for the light primer strikes. When I take them out, light strikes do not happen anymore.
What’s your preferred method for removing them?
With this LCP 2 22lr, the mag disconnect is only a tiny rotating part behind the trigger. When the mag is removed, it swivels around so that the trigger hits it. It only prevents the trigger from being pulled, and does not interact with anything else. To remove it, the aluminum chassis must be taken out of the grip. This requires removing the hammer spring, and then removing two pins. It is best to follow a video of someone doing a disassembly, because the thing pretty much falls apart when you pull it out of the grip.
The light strikes seem to be a simple matter of a hammer spring that is too light. I installed a Galloway Precision spring and it hits primers harder than my sr22.
Thanks for the great info
I'm just excited because at Paul's current growth rate (500K 3 months ago) we should get FAQ part 6 before the end of the year.
Woohoo a new Paul Harrell video! Worst part now is looking forward to a new one, I guess I'll rewatch his catalog to pass the time.
I got an ace of clubs for my birthday this year! Definitely one of the coolest gifts ever. Thank you so much.
Listening to Paul describe the meat target is the reason I’m here.
My dear old dad always said a punch in the nose will change someone's mind... I figure a .22 to the nose will do the same thing. More or less.
Thanks for what you do Paul, you're a gem and priceless to this community.
The .22 to the nose will probably send him to the morgue 🥊💥⚰️🪦
I don't have an analog for that part of the body that's fit to be shot on camera..............Ok, now I am intrigued!
A pig head would be the cost effective choice in my mind. UA-cam would have a fit though.
@@Sensorium19 exactly my thoughts. He could put that head in a carved out pumpkin perhaps...
Anything that comes close to resembling a human head would be controversial. I have no doubt there are military and/or law enforcement agencies that do such testing, probably with actual cadavers, and keep it under wraps.
What about a jug of soda with a cement shell? Or a cheap correl plate in front of a jug of soda?
Smart analytical guy. Dispassionate. "Just the Facts Ma'am". Thank you for the video. Keep sharing and teaching.
Thank you for the comparison test.
1. I've binge watched nearly all of your videos in the past week. Thank you for all the work you put into them.
2. Has Paul done any videos on gun maintenance and cleaning?
3. As a new gun owner I am interested in the general knowledge of what and why, in regards to gun cleaning. I know maintenance and cleaning varies greatly between firearm models. I have yet to buy a gun cleaning kit, though I do plan on buying more guns in the future and want to get a good gun cleaning setup now that will serve for years to come.
He has a video of himself cleaning his colt ar15. I believe it's called how to clean your firearm.
Thank you sir.
Does Paul have barbecued ribs after every video session?
"Honey, what's for dinner tonight?"
Paul: "Meat target brisket."
Also Paul: "I only recovered 3 of the 4 rounds I fired into those ribs. So they might be a little crunchy."
he's got big dogs
Hey Paul Harrell .. I think your videos are the most logical and well thought out Firearm related content on youtube.. good on you buddy ! My favorite is how you try your best to simulate the theoretical damage done using oranges/meats and his "high tec fleece backstop" is Ace!
Miss you PH...
Remington Yellow Jacket vs. CCI Stinger: I've been playing with both of these in my .22 rifles for years. I LOVE the terminal effect of the Yellow Jacket on small game, and believe it performs BETTER than the Stinger in that respect. HOWEVER... I have experienced functioning issues with the Yellow Jackets in pretty much EVERY semi-automatic platform (rifle OR pistol) that I have used them in; primarily failures to fire and failures to feed. And as Paul would say, "That's a problem.".
My solution: I shoot Yellow Jackets in my bolt rifles or in revolvers. In semi-autos, if I'm loading hollowpoints, they're usually Stingers.
Seems like thats the results he was getting too. I just purchased this ruger to replace my NAA mini revolver. I will cont loading the NAA with the remingtons, but Ill be getting some stingers for the ruger
What do you think about CCI 32 grain hollow point Stingers vs CCI mini mag 36 grain hollow points?
Binge watching old PH videos and what pops up? A new PH video.
One of my favorites this year. Works out excellent for a backup, yard work, or super deep concealment. I've had pretty good reliability thus far, and it's actually quite a bit of fun, in my opinion.
Excellent points right off the bat about .22 vs .380.
Thanks Paul. Glad to see you still growing.
"A 1/2 inch more can be a lot more depending what you're measuring"
Just about died laughing
🤣😂
More Great Content And Information From The Realistic Test-And-Prove Master of Firearms .
I want this gun. Thanks for the review
You must be miserable
you did a really great job reveiwing. ill absolutely be checking out more of your videos for great and thorough reviews.
So as always another great video Thank you sir
Paul Harrell videos: You hit like first then you watch.
Bastard of the sun Ha I did just that Mr Bastard. I do it to every PH video.
That would not be the attitude he would appreciate.
Yes, yes I do. Paul doesn't make bad vids.
Light primer strikes were the ultimate deciding factor between the S&W Bodyguard vs the LCP - the Smith provides double-strike capability
Never understood the doublestrike thing. If someone attacks you and you pull your gun and it fails to fire, are you gonna keep pulling the trigger or tap rack bang? I know what im doing.
All hail Paul!
Thanks again, Mr. Harrell. Your videos are far and away the best and to me, at least, the least biased demonstrations out there.
I'm still hoping for a video on the Beretta APX Compact in 9mm, as I'd really like to see your opinion of the firearm.
Always a pleasure to watch Paul’s videos!
Thanks for you time Paul!! I personally did not like The LCP when it came out in 380. I’m in New York State so I had to buy it before I could even toss a round out of it. Thanks for your review!!
I was fortunate enough to be able to shoot a friend's, so I didn't have to make that mistake. Interestingly enough, I found that the Springfield 911 (and the SIG that's the same gun, I can't remember the number) is very comfortable to shoot by comparison! I liked it enough that I bought one myself. So don't pre-judge all pocket .380s by that one, they're not all that nasty! :)
I bought an LCP in 9mm when it came out and it wasn't fun. But the LCP II is an improvement.
Was it the snappy recoil?
@@ScottKenny1978 the LCP9? It's kind of snappy, but mainly the looooooong trigger pull.
@@ScottKenny1978 For me, was a combination of the snappy recoil, how it slapped the web of my hand, and the three-foot, fifty-pound trigger pull.
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that's where you're wrong bucko it discriminates against non-english readers and more so to the ones who can't read
You see Rob Ski today too?
N word
@@Alec_Reaper That's waycist! Lol
That 22 seems to have a longer trigger pull as noted. As to that little "pocket sleeve (holster)" that can be real important as to being within carrying laws or not . Some places it is illegal to carry/have an unholstered pistol on your person or in your vehicle, That little pocket sleeve can fly in under the legal radar as a holster . I got to give Ruger some credit for including them with the LCP's
(8:27)That was so funny, yet so cool hearing you quickly describe the composition of "THE MEAT TARGET" so quickly. If I had a drink going, I would re-watch that 5 times!
I'm not sure how the rest of the US workforce is doing during the current COVID-19 situation, but Paul Harrell's local meat market is doing well!
Great video, thanks for sharing!
And let's not forget that there are some great small revolvers out there chambered for both 22LR and 22 Magnum! Smith & Wesson, Taurus, and Ruger all make some really good quality 22 revolvers. Most hold 8 shots. And if you have a misfire you don't have to stop and pull immediate action to clear the gun, all you have to do is pull the trigger again.
Yep ! Got a Smith & Wesson model 43C coming today. After watching Hickok 45 do a comparison between the Ruger 22LCR versus the 43C he makes the point of light weight / concealing / all day carry which sold me but its extra $$$.
Tho for some reason those cost 600 to 700 bucks and lcp2 is under 400
@missouripatriot6926
The Smith 43c and 351c (the 22 magnum version) both have a lot of lightening cuts. That extra machining ups the cost, as do the upgraded sights and the aluminum cylinder. They are stupid lightweight! I still think the J frame rimfire guns are overpriced, but they do have reasons to be more expensive.
@missouripatriot6926 the Taurus revolvers are even less
Just lite the pit. Great timming
Bbq or fire for you tonight?
I was so excited to see a new video, I really need to get a life LOL
You're not alone.
I have put about a thousand rounds through mine and I have not had a failure to fire but I only use mini-mag or stingers. Great fun and I love it.
Thank you another great video!!!
I need more Paul! Where are you!?!??!
I will never buy this gun. However, I like Paul, so here I am.
same here
Yup. Can't pass the professional dispersal of knowledge.
That happens alot.
I don't even own a gun yet here I am.🤣
Exactly, for me it's both entertainment and learning.
Tim from the Military Arms Channel gave yah a shout out on his video posted today. He made his own meat target :)
Last vid I watched before this one!
Yep, Tim from MAC is a class act.
Proud to call him a fellow Hoosier.
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns Uh oh, I see a trend starting. Was just waiting for first meat target somewhere else. Haven't seen MAC vid but at least it was by super classy GunTuber. Better stock up on ribs now. Lotta gun channels. L8r.
@@TheAcceleratorMagazine Okay...
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns Thank you for your support. Even when I'm jokin. L8r.
Love the meat target portion of his presentations and so does his local butcher. I imagine when Paul asks for ribs his butcher asks, “1) are you gonna eat it or shoot it, 2) if you’re gonna shoot it what caliber are you gonna use, and yes it makes A LOT of difference. I have a video on it Paul, but that’s the short version.”
Great gun. I agree that 22lr is an adequate defensive round. I had an LCR in 22. The trigger weight, with the rimfire, was a bit more than I cared for. My EDC is an LCR in 38. I load it with super low recoil wadcutters. Love this little pocket pal.
I save all those 'light strikes'and reload them into the magazine and shoot them again.
They'll usually work with the second strike on the rim
Primer sometimes is not evenly distributed in the rim. The area first struck might have been low or no primer. Turning it can allow it to ignite. Sometimes, even that does not work.
yep, just run them through the revolver again in my case
I put them in the microwave.
I'm afraid they're hangfires, so they go in a steel ammo can to contain the fragments.
I've picked up a lot of them over a few years at my local range. My thinking is that as my kids get to shooting 1, free ammo & 2, since they may not go off i can watch for flinching easier. Back in the day I have had a few that didn't fire after 5 strikes, but most worked after a second
“Depending on what you’re measuring” 😏
I see the loading tool as being potentially better than magazine follower tabs. With tabs I can see potentially pulling the follower down enough to allow the rounds to stack improperly, leading to rim lock. The loading tool seems to only push the top round enough to allow you to slide the next one back on top of it, effectively preventing rim lock.
@Robert Haring I don't think it would be a problem to somebody experience, but for a first time buyer, I see a chance (albeit slight) that they could pull the follower down too far with the loading tabs and drop the top round down on the next one without being sure they're stacked properly.
I agree.
Also, I have always found those loading tabs very painful on the fingertips, especially after more than one or two mags, and especially with the last two or three rounds going into each mag.
Get a LuLa loader, then never look back.
Always enjoy your videos, Paul. Thank you!
Thanks, I needed that.
Well aint this a lil blessing
I always thought CCI Stingers are some of the best 22lr available.👍🏻
Would love a LCP in .25acp and .32acp, ultimate high quality pocket pistols. So sweet!
hey Paul. thanks as always your honest, very trustworthy review. i look forward to each one of your reviews.
The best thing about 2 weeks in the field is coming back to 2 new Paul Harrell videos.