Federal Premium PUNCH 22lr Ammo
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- Опубліковано 9 жов 2024
- Paul tests Federal's PUNCH ammo.
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You have no idea what you are talking about
lol
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Ok jackass
imagine being this dumb 😂😂
I would say he does know what he is talking about. I trust Paul's opinion completely!
Very cool ... he's using the Mini mag I donated at his 'guest appearance' at our local gun show... great comparison video.
I can tell by the yellow price sticker on the box ... have an identical box sitting on my desk... .. glad I got to meet him and his 'crew'
@@bryandamkaer3646 since you got to meet him I'm curious, when they go to the gun shows are they selling guns or just hanging out and chatting?
Thank you for the donation!
They are just hanging out and chatting. When I went to the yard bird mall appreance they also had a huge collection of all the firearms you have seen in some of there videos as well as some others that are just mechanically cool or there will be a presentation about later. And the crew was awesome and let people handle any firearm on the table. But I do not believe they were selling any firearms only T-shirts
@@beardly0121 .. meet and greet... displaying some of his and the crews guns
Still educating and helping me even when you're gone. Miss you paul and thanks
I wonder if Paul ever uses his long-windedness to get himself out of trouble? Like:
Paul's Wife: PAUL...Did you spend all of our vacation money on guns again?!
Paul: Unfortunately, the answer to this comes with a litany of disclaimers and caveats, all of which are completely necessary. Now in answering this question I'm going to have to talk about something that I have great DISDAIN for talking about--Myself. With that in mind, nothing I'm about to say should in anyway be construed as advice on how you should spend YOUR vacation money. I'm only telling you how I spend it. Secondly, remember that everything I say here today are just my opinions. My opinions are based on my training, my education, my experience. Different people have difference experiences so they have different opinions. Okay, with that, let me give you a personal anecdote...
Paul's wife: Ugggghhhh....
I try to not LOL and fail miserably.
Your watching too many of Paul's videos if you have all that memorized. Even though, you did it well and well done sir.
Paul, if your reading these comments, Thanks for another great video.
ROFL
@@drummer0864 there's no such thing as watching too many of Paul's videos.
1 hour and 5 minutes later...
Paul: So, as always don't try this at home I'm what you call a professional--
Wife: YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
Paul: Aaand thanks for watching the "Did I spend our vacation money, video."
Wow Paul, couldn't imagine a more thorough presentation. Lots of people do ballistics, but I find that so few do anything about bullet construction and performance. Throw in the multiple barrel lengths and you got a great video......oh, and the meat target......can't forget the meat target. 🙂
A great presentation by Paul, he’s whatcha call a professional 😂, and indeed he is !!!
Proof read before you post brother. Did you mean to say " got a good" video?
@@abedanielspictures Are you his English teacher in 5th grade??? It’s the damn internet not a college thesis!!!
I’m just glad it was free of excessive profanity and pointless flattery!!!
I think you need to lower your expectations. I don’t go to the bad part of town and expect to find “culture”. The internet is the world’s arm pit or sewer...
abedanielspictures Thanks. I usually do, but it must have been late at night or something.
Daniel Curtis It's ok. Just because it's the Internet, doesn't mean I shouldn't write well. I didn't take any offence, but thanks.
When you want comparisons, truth , and fun. Nothing beats paul.
Strait Facts, just like Paul
All delivered in a presentation style that's drier than vintage hard tack.
Other gun channels: we will do an unbiased impartial review of this Federal ammo….(while Federal quietly donates a generous donation under another name).
Also, when you want a gunfight, nothing beats Paul.
@@GeoffCostanza Paul Harrell: today we are testing Hornady’s new critical defense extra hard cast lead JHP. This robber will attempt to rob me, let’s see who they perform….. looks like highly effective. Lets examine his guts, they look very well damaged, his chest bones have crumbled, and bullets exited his back but only traveled 2 yards. I highly recommend this ammo.
If Paul discussed the differences between toilets I’d watch.
This was another well thought out and well executed comparison. I love these videos.
This bowl fits my butt better than this one does
@@JW--dc8ri 🤣🤣🤣
@@JW--dc8ri there is some truth to that...
@@crankygunreviews Hey, life is a little easier when you find a good toilet
@@JW--dc8ri #truth
It's interesting to see that 22plinkster got way bigger wound cavities with punch then stinger on ballistic gel. When you shoot them at meat target it's different. Thanks again Paul.
I seriously love when I get notified of a new video from Paul and the crew. No drama, no B.S., no shilling, just data, facts, and impartial information. Best guntuber on the platform, bar none. I know Paul won't agree with that statement, but you be the judge.
Mini Mags and Stingers have been my "go-to" for decades.
Same.
Velociters are really nice as well. I use those in my match grade rifle and stingers in my revolver
Can't beat stingers killed a lot critters with them wouldn't want to get hit with one
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@George Washington conservatives sided with Britain in the revolutionary war. They were the south in the civil war. And they failed a third time on January 6th. Trump is president of the Trump organization (pending charges)... that's about it. 😂
I tested this round in gel and I was very impressed. Compared to every other type of 22lr ammo I've tested in gel, this one left the most damaging wound track.
Oh, a Paul Harrell video? What a great night!
Its so impressive that he can do the whole number crunching section without looking at the chart.
He's what you might call a professional so he likely has a copy behind camera
He’s said before that he memorizes the numbers, and even apologized in a video or two for having to look at the chart behind him because there were so many numbers from all the ammo/firearm combos he was testing. Definitely an impressive feat imo.
I just gotta really appreciate the work that Paul Harrell does with his editing and showing us the knowledge and experimentation he does to show the world of ignorance on UA-cam some knowledge
Respect 💪🔥
All without yelling, politics and insults. Rare.
@@steprob8692 correct
There will never be another Paul Harrell, the William Shatner of shooting video.
Earliest I’ve ever been to a Paul Harrell video- I’m ready.
I like how when I'm in a hurry, because of the way he structures his video's, I can always go to the end and get the meat of the conclusions. If I have time, I can watch the whole thing.
When I'm in a hurry and Paul drops a video, I just stop being in a hurry and watch the whole thing 😂
You are missing out.
Paul is a national treasure
"The shift back to the center, I probably did that subconsciously" - Paul Harrell, Undisputed Humblebrag Champion of the World
why are you verified?
@@waterweirdo9285 Honestly couldn’t tell ya. A few years ago they were very lax with the requirements. I probably just went through it and didn’t realize I didn’t need it.
@@DustinSneath Cool!
@@DustinSneath well I, for one, am glad to know that you are really you.
@@DustinSneath Haha, thats pretty cool actually. 3 subscribers and verified. Never seen that before.
May GOD bless your soul Paul Harrell thanks for the great content that you have brought to use!!!
I want to thank you Paul for making alternative media accounts for your videos. It’s refreshing to know you’re taking a stand against UA-cam censorship.
I am a USCCA firearms instructor and I find your videos often give me baseline knowledge to spread to those who take my class. Thanks for all you do! Best channel on UA-cam!
As I'm watching this I'm thinking _Why would anyone want to want to watch a twenty five minute analysis of .22 lr ammo?_
Then I immediately thought *_I_*_ would watch Paul do an _*_hour_*_ long analysis on the difference between crunchy and smooth peanut butter_
If you have a 22, there is a lot to figure out with ammo. Reliability is a big one. Some of those big boxes have a lot of duds. Also with Paul videos, if he put one up on the difference between mayonnaise and miracle whip it would get an instant like.
@@brianpartlow5530 Miracle whip>Mayo
change my mind
@@dustinspence2525 Miracle Whip is usually much to sweet for my tastes, thus the reason I prefer mayo. However, choosing between the two comes down to taste nothing more nothing less. I am most assured there are people out there that can switch between the two and be happy either way, and others that despise both in equal measure.
@@dustinspence2525 Assuming you're not trolling for LOLs, you have no mind left to be changed. Miracle whip isn't fit to feed to pigs, rats, or even cockroaches. Hellmann's or equivalent real mayo or nothing. Anything else is perversion.
Agreed!
When you get home from work to a Paul Harrell video and a beer, makes for a great night
Indeed Brother - and thank you for spelling your name correctly! 👍
can I switch out the beer for thick cut bacon?
You put a lot of effort into comparing something as mundane and miniscule as 22 long rifle ammo. Thank you. The results in my opinion are very lackluster, but typical for 22. I appreciate the time and effort you made to make a unbiased comparison and a honest look at each type of ammo. I think that you gave your viewers some really good information that will help if they choose a 22 lr for concealed carry
Sitting here recovering from Dental Surgery from this morning and Paul posts a new video. Excellent.
Was at a Cabelas a week or so ago and asked his opinion on Federal Punch because they had 9mm Punch and he said, it's Federal's budget JHP, not as good as Federal HST but it'll do the job without breaking the bank.
You know what's messed up? Right now through online retailers, 9mm Punch is going for around 85 cents per round and HSTs are going for 82. Maybe someday the budget friendly option will be more widely available.
Hey! Me too! Just had my wisdom teeth yanked
@@werock1998 ......now imagine being in that chair and Paul walks in....and you go...screw sedation....
Did you know that Paul has a day job as a dental assistant? Seriously, it's true.
@@werock1998 Gum Graft surgery myself. Thank god for mash potatoes, pudding, and pain killers.
Paul you did this just in time for me because my 80 year old grandma always has kept a 22lr 2" barrel revolver that she keeps as home defense gun and I always had had her loaded up with CCI stingers for decades and recently I seen the punch ammo and was curious, so now I know that I will just keep it loaded up with stingers for her 👍
Replace it with Remington Yellow Jacket so you can have hollow point expansion out of a 2 inch barrel per Paul Harrels reccomendation.
The federal punch out performs all 22lr ammo drop the stinger it's not the best anymore the punch leaves it in the dust period for self defense,and your not gonna get any expansion out of a two inch barell go for penatration and that's where the punch shines
@@cecilking3727 Did you watch the review? The CCi Stingers beat it in every single aspect. And it was a Remington round that expanded out of the 2" barrel. The punch is an utter waste of money.
@@scottthomson9813 not hardly,you want penatration not expansion in a 22lr and the punch beats every other 22lr round in that category,I used to carry stingers but in my own ballistics gel test they can't compete with the federal punch from my taurus pt22 poly nearly twice the penatration in 10% gel,facts
@@wheezer012 we don’t like recoil
I'm glad to see more high velocity .22 being produced. My favorite is CCI Stingers but what's available is my main concern.
Spending a great amount of time in the .22LR world as of late, and ALL these videos are just 'priceless' for the type of information gathered. Thank you Mr Harrel.
I forgot paul is in oregon and was wondering why he was posting in the middle of the night
@Zoomer Waffen wherever Paul is at any time is the better part of Oregon. He balances the craziness.
@Zoomer Waffen i believe the word is "plague"
He might be laying low...with all those Portland antifa turds roaming around. lol
I love shooting my .22 6.5" Rough Rider; great for milking range time, practicing my aim and l find shooting/re-loading a classic single-action revolver quite relaxing. Although I don't rely on 22lr for any kind of defense I do like watching videos about the various types of 22lr and wmr ammo, another great vid!
One minute ago and somebody already disliked? That's not even enough time to watch the video lol.
In fairness, I liked the video before watching it so...
There's just no pleasing some folks
Welcome to UA-cam sir
Could have been a mistake but more likely someone's life is so pathetic, that they have subscribed to someone channel merely to dislike their videos. Which I find comical because you're still helping them with your sub haha
He's a Troll.
Thanks Paul! There are so many of the gun guru's with video's of .50 bmg and other huge rounds that no average citizen is likely to own or be able to afford the exorbident price for the ammo. We all plink with .22lr. Even more when carry rounds and militia rounds have become so rare. This again is knowledge we all can use daily.
Paul Harrell - In the asset column as always. Thank you for all your hard work. Your consistency is rivaled only by your integrity.
Hey my names Ian M too
Paul's shooting range is like a picture post card. When I click in I immediately give a thumbs up....and then go watch the video.
Same
The northwest is an unbelievably beautiful place
Plenty of punch-lines in this one I'm sure.
@George Washington can we just not be political for 5 minutes?
@George Washington America First is inevitable
I didn’t know a 22 can echo like that
@@TheKep can you let people write whatever the fuck they want and move on?
Haaaaa.. leave 👉....go own git!
4:39 - For all you who saw the deer, the reason it isn't worried is simple. It has seen Paul's videos also, especially on the .30-30, and knows that to Paul, deer hunting is just walking his rifle. No need to be alarmed and it isn't deer season.
The deer, having seen all of Pauls videos, and depending on your local laws, determined the .22lr was not a legal method of take, and knew it was safe. They DO eat Poptarts after all, so this proves they are evolving.
I'd like to see a demonstration one day of the Aquila SSS 60 grain ammo. I'd be happy to send some if necessary.
I have shot some of those from my Tikka T1x rifle, even with a 16" barrel the bullet thumbels right from the muzzle. The Tikka has a 1:12 twist. It would be nice to have a gun where those round work tho, they are really quiet and pack some punch for a subsonic .22 round
I like the Aguila SSS, and their "interceptor" ammo as well. Would like to see a couple comparisons with those included.
I will say,ive shot a lot of Aquila 60 gr and, after recoving the projectiles (from a half rotten stump) almost all weren't deformed much
@@ronimantymaki7035 the .22 SSS is supposed to be used out of a specific twist rate, don't recall what it is off the top of my head though.
@@owllymannstein7113 I could probably google it but I would *assume* it's closer to a 1:9 or 1:8
Yellow Jackets used to be my favorite, that big hollow would "blow stuff up", even better than Stingers. It seems to have been downloaded quite a bit from the 1980s, as many centerfire pistol/revolver ammo is now. As for quality, older rimfire ammo seems to have been more reliable as well. On a recent range trip I shot some 40+ year old Rem Mohawk 22lr and some less than 5 year old Federal and Winchester ammo. Only a small sample, about 100 rounds each, but 40 year old stuff had 0 misfire/duds whereas the newer stuff had about 3% fail rate.
We about to shoot away our last box of Winchester, Federal isn't much better but it will take a while to shoot away...we encountered a couple dud mini-mags recently, which does rock our boat...rimfire is what it is...
Something about this guy is oddly nostalgic, even down to the tone of his voice. The way the videos are written and structured makes them feel like those old cop training videos without the performances they always have.
This was the most entertaining and informative ammo comparison I've seen to date. Excellent job. Awesome speaking skills.
I've shot stingers for years, pretty much all I buy in .22lr
I've bought them when first introduced in the 1970's. Impressed me greatly on the first shot from a 6" revolver on a black bird. Stingers from a 4"-6" handgun far exceeds ye olde hollow point LR. If some critter needs putting down then Stinger gets the job. I've tried other brands of "high performance" 22LR and none have the accuracy or destructive power of Stingers.
Paul Harrell is like a game of billiards. Physics in action, whether you like it or not. And a whole lot of fun.
Paul’s so good at shooting deers his bullets bring them closer 4:40 lol
Haha!
Lol i was just listening. Look up and saw something moving in the background
Did you really mean to type the plural of deer with an S?
Very Sharp Eye, Sir!
But thats one Reason for Deer- Hunting is not that Hard like hunting oder Species - They are just not that smart.
That’s the second time I’ve seen that in his videos. Good eye.
Cheers to Paul Harrell keeping the same intro through the years
true that
respect for his consistency
For what it is worth, and I realize this is an older video, but I had some Federal Punch in 380 acp. Shot into a couple of water jugs out of an LCP 2 and the expansion was outstanding, beautiful even. I was impressed.
I woke up this morning and I’m looking forward to taking my nieces to Disney World. Sounds like a good day. But a Paul Harrell video before we leave home? That’s just icing on the cake.
Family all sitting in the car with Mickey ears on "twenty minutes whats he doing?"
"Oh I heard him say something about something important came up and he would be out in a minute!" ;
Right now "beggars can't be choosey" where I live. We buy what we can find in stock.
Sometimes it'll be like that... have look hard these days
my local gunshop has .22 in stock, but its like 18 cents a round.
Another thorough review/test. "...it can effect the health of the chronograph." Yeah, I was watching someone shoot through one the other day and the chrony jumped on their second shot! Costly mistake.
I saw a guy put a bullet through his the first day after he bought it. He just sat and stared at the wreckage. Asking what the Boone and Crockett score for a chrono was probably in bad taste.
I love his videos. He can keep my attention. He has a good balance of speaking about things and doing things in the same video. Keep it up.
RIP Paul, first video I watched on your channel. Will enjoy your continued teachings and wisdom. Life is short, may God Bless your Soul Sir. Take care..
This sure cheered me up after waking up from a nap that turned into a 7 hour long one.
“But it CAN affect the life of the chronograph!”
I didn’t think my wife was listening until she broke out laughing at that line! Great job as always Paul!
The only PUNCH ammo Mr. Paul needs is his left and right hands.
Federal Paul Ammunition
Im pretty sure Chuck Norris is afraid of Paul.
Will continue to watch Paul’s videos; always great content!
RIP Paul!!!
Had a strange dream last night Paul- you were my "substitute" teacher in one of my college classes (I graduated from college years ago), you were dressed in your usual attire with one of your hunting jackets, sitting at the professor's desk and sternly surveying the class. I approached the desk and said something dumb like "Hey Paul, can you elaborate on the pros and cons of steel frame pistols vs aluminum alloy frame pistols?" to which you responded "If you need to talk to me, come see me after class..." to which I responded "10-4", then I woke up, took a dump, had some coffee, and went to work at my local gunshop. True story.
Are you okay bro?😂
LoL, well Gus, as you know one is heavier.
Now Gus, you weren't puffing on 1 of those funny cigarettes were you before you had that dream?
First make a Paul Harrel video withdrawal, usually the symptoms subside again.
Well, you couldve left out the "took a dump" part but okay I guess, is funny and fine lol
I am very happy to see more interest in the 22 LR, and I hope this continues. But, the Velocitor is the king of the 22.
Stangers, Punch's and the Velocitors are all the same length casing all on what you want to do with them
@@miketyson8933 ---> Did you mean to type "Singer" and not "stanger"?
Regardless of the bullet or caliber used I suspect that once you start poking holes in people they will tend to leave you alone. Use what you have experience with.
He definitely states many times throughout his videos to use what you’re comfortable shooting as hitting the target (and also minimizing collateral damage) is way more important than trying to maximize damage from caliber or ammo selection and missing.
Not as much as you might think. I've seen a guy who was shot three times with a .25 and still killed his assailant. He took one to the collar bone, one to the forearm/elbow, and one to the knee.
@@excollector9963 yes, if was charging you with a hammer and you shot me three times in the foot with a 9mm id still pound you down like a tent stake.
Obviously shot placement counts. Those three .25 rounds placed in the neck and face would have stopped that interaction
@@jatpack3 - In the home, when an intrusion might take place, it might be that you are still in the process of fully waking up from REM sleep.
So, hitting the target is not going to be easy. Aim 'n' shoot is very important to hit the target. But, it may be that there isn't time to aim 'n' shoot,
so pointing is appropriate. Luckily, a human at close range is a big target. The thing about the tiny cartridges is that once or twice or three times is
not enough. You keep firing until it goes click....to quote Quintana, the pervert in The Big Lebowski. You want to kill the assailant because
if he lives, he can sue you for everything you have. Anyhow, at the shooting range, be sure to practice point 'n' shoot along with aim 'n' shoot.
@@excollector9963 but you just stated they got hit three times. That was a lot more effective than not getting hit at all. That's what Paul and I are saying. If you cant hit the target because the firearm is too large or powerful then you need to get another firearm that suits you better.
My wife cleans businesses at night and carries a glock 44. Ive tried to get her to get at least a 380 or something but shes very fond of what she has. Im researching her best ammo options, to make it as good as it can be. Paul,i know youre goin through the wringer right now. We're all praying for you and your family. God's speed!🙏
Good stuff. I’ve always considered Stingers as top of 22lr ammo and I don’t see anything here that changes that. Enjoyed as always.
Great presentation. I picked up a couple boxes of these, but I think I'll use them at the range and stick with my CCI Stingers for loading my S&W617.
Glad he did this video. I picked up a couple boxes of this for my LCP but haven't had a chance to test it out. I have been using the CCI Stingers which I know function very well in my pistol. As soon as I saw the ballistic chart data I was hoping for a meat target test and as usual, Paul delivered.
As always an interesting and professional approach to a subject that nobody ever would think is important until the one time it's all you have in an emergency! Thank you Paul for all you do you sir are what everyone else should strive to be!!
Exactly! I'm paying attention because we own a small and a tiny .22lr handguns...some days you just can't conceal a shotgun...
I have long been partial to Mini Mags for general use and ground squirrel control. Good to know the Stingers and Yellow Jackets also have good expansion and don't seem to fragment much. The Punch seems like a pretty good idea (like a SWC) for those who may need it. May have to try some on some squirrels when i have a chance.
Miss you Paul. Your knowledge lives on.
Been watching Paul's videos for a couple of weeks now, it's kind of surreal watching one drop in real time.
Welcome to the party, pal! 😊. It's always exciting to see one of his videos pop up.
Love the videos Paul keep them coming. Thank you
Me... [reloading some 458 SOCOM ammo]
Paul... "Hey, let's look at some OTS 22 ammo".
Me... "Okay, you bet".
Thanks Paul, great comparison. I too own a Beretta 21a and have been using it with Stingers for 150 years now. I can't find a reason to change.
I woulda fell outta my chair laughing if Paul woulda said "nice" after 69 feet per second difference.
This was just excellent. Thank you Paul!
I love presentations on 22lr. It's a very popular caliber and a lot more popular in CC self defense guns than ever before.
Also, I like to see this level of granular thoroughness analyzing calibers that are very popular. I lose interest in people showing me what they can blow up with their Barrett .50 cal; I'd be a lot more interested in seeing them shoot 9mm or .38 spl. or .45... basic calibers, but different manufacturers etc..
Comparing 4 top brands or more, is awesome.
Thanks again!
If you ever need to make a particular box of ammo last longer, you could multi task by shooting at a target, while shooting through the chronograph. Same goes for the meat target.
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Why not shoot through the chrono at a target with the meat target behind it?
@@sweet65mustang Even though targets are just paper, it could alter the affect on the meat target, and distort results.
@@mtgAzim I think you're over thinking it a little considering he's already shooting through a tshirt and a piece of leather but ok.
You have an uncanny knack for putting out videos just when I could use the info. Great timing, thank you. The smallest firearm you tested these through would apply to my need. Good stuff, thanks again. Enjoy.
Thanks Paul, yet video with excellent content, thoroughly covered with your undeniable style!
Been watching Paul for years, still like how he gives you all the info and lets you decide whats right for you!
Great point about barrel length, too many people forget how important it is.
Too bad you did not have CCI Velocitor, its 40gr bullet has higher BC than Stinger and achieves the best energy on target of any 22LR I know.
Yep, that's what i run in my M&P22c, 40gr @1435fps.
I like it alot in my LCPII .22LR... it works well!
Thorough, direct, and excellent as always Paul. Awesome job.
"I dropped one on the ground and couldn't find it " yet again lol. A great t-shirt idea
I dropped one on the ground and left it for a democrat to find.
Strictly my opinion with nothing to back it up, but. When visiting the L.A. county coroners office one day they had an intended target on their stainless steel table. It had been hit with a couple of .22s. The target was terminated not by any expansion, but by the ricocheting of the projectile inside like a billiard ball hitting the sides of the table as bones were struck. The eventual exit was far away from the entrance. Its travels punctured internal named items causing loss of blood and eventually termination. Over time I also learned that the .22 and .22 Mag can be very deadly, 10-20 minutes after the target was hit. One particular case was a single center mass puncture at close range. Target made it out of the house and into a waiting car, but was later left lifeless at some emergency room doorstep by the target's accomplices trying to get it there in time. Another was on a bus with a .22 Mag derringer and 11-15 minutes.
My takeaway is forget about asking the .22 to expand like larger calibers, but ask how much internal billiard table action will it produce cutting through internal stuff. My guess is that is why Federal chose that particular projectile profile.
Looks like the CCI Stinger is the consistent winner in every .22LR test Paul ever made.
Only because they didn't compare them to Velociters.
The Stingers do well in his meat target and not so well in other tests.
Sir, I just want to say that of all of the firearms channels, yours is the only one that presents information. I appreciate this and hope you will continue to do so. Thank you for being knowledgeable and professional.
I tend to stay with CCI Stingers and CCI Velocitor .22, for Years.
I like the deer running thru at 4:42, “hey there’s somebody down here” or maybe you didn’t have as exclusive use as you thought! Interesting comparison I always wondered how different those rounds really were.
An excellent review amigo - I had never heard of punch - I love the mini-mags - for self defense i'll stick with my FNX 45.
When I was a cop I had a tiny Fredom Arms 22lr revolver I carried on very specific occasions. I went through a lot of 22lr ammo tests and finnally settled on the yellow jackets for my carry ammo. It's interesting that you appear to have come to a similar conclusion.
Vista outdoors owns all three manufacturers, so no matter which one you buy they're winning.
CCI doesn't call themselves the "leader in rimfire ammunition" for nothing. Virtually all of the world's 22 mag/17 hmr and hyper-velocity 22 lr (extended length Stinger case) is made by them. No other brand has invested as much in the rimfire ammunition market and as a result they've excelled in a market that's little more than an afterthought to other manufacturers. Hopefully Remington's reputation for making inferior rimfire ammo might now start to improve.
Paul, thank you for yet another thorough and useful presentation. Now I need to find useful info regarding Stinger versus Velocitor.
I wish the CCI Velocitors weren't constantly ignored in tests like this.
are those made to shoot at Velociraptors?
I'd like to see more of them as well
The velocitors are scarce these days...we sitting on 2 boxes, would like a dozen more for some testing...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww It's kind of funny, the very first time I bought ammo of any kind, right after buying my first gun, it was a brick of Velocitors. That was all they had in stock for .22. Since then, I've never again seen them at that store or any other.
Send Paul a few hundred.
much love for this crazy man, I seen him bring a whole bed out to the range to test the effectiveness of shooting from under a blanket- crazy dedication!
Paul did a video a while back about 22’s and 25’s out of pocket pistols. The Yellow Jackets expanded well even out of the21a, and that’s what I’ve carried in mine ever since. Thanks Paul!
I carry a 4” S&W 41mag. No worries about penetration or expansion.
Can you add the "switching to your sidearm" part 1 and part 2 into a playlist or something? So that people who would really like to watch the controversial video could still watch it even if its unlisted.
I do believe part 1 is still up on another platform check the part 2 video I believe the name of the service is there
Very very interesting! The stingers were very impressive at the right velocity for expansion!
22 LR would never be my first choice for defense but if my 10/22 became my only gun, I'd go with the Stingers. CCI Velociter would have been my choice before watching this video.
I still would love to see the bloopers just cause he is human I know I met him
Awesome video. I’m going to do some videos on using punch 22LR in rifles. Thanks for another great video and all of the awesome content that your channel provides.
"Meat Target" = the annals of real world performance and results in realistic substrate!
Thanks for doing this. I was one of those who questioned the penetration of 22hollowpoints in general.
Remington Yellowjacket is one of my favorite rounds. Hard to find lately, but I have about 600 rounds left from years ago. I really like it. At 100 yards I can shoot caps off 2 liters with it and it’s been nearly 100% reliable
Agreed! Hard to find for years. Got 500 rounds left myself. And just like the video, they do very well out of my 21a too.
@@bertofehr they run great in my LCPII who’s can be finicky with flat nose
@@baklash1762 I had a 9x scope on my rifle :)
@@baklash1762 lol it was a 1957 MOSSBERG 146b bolt action- 24” barrel I think, extremely accurate, and shot .22 short, long, and long rifle rounds.
@@baklash1762 I love super extra! Was my bulk go to, at $20 a brick of 500 I bought a bit a couple years ago and I’m glad I did. Yellow jackets are great, light, super fast like 1600 FPS, and they’re fun to shoot at soda cans :)
Thank you - my wife has a Walther PPK .22 long as her purse gun so I'm always looking at .22 self defense ammo.
FYI: I stopped squirrel hunting with the Stingers because they tore the meat up! In fact a head shot completely removed the squirrels head from its body!
I now use Federal Target ammo
Not only does it not tear up the squirrel my accuracy has Greatly improved on longer shots through my Magnum Research Rifle!
Different barrels have different preferences of course but after extensive research both my Sako and my Anschutz shot at their best with target type ammo of modest velocity. Eley subsonic are what I hunt with. I use a moderator and shoot a rabbit after rabbit without spooking them. Absolutely none of the high velocity stuff (I remember trying Stingers and Eley high velocity for example) shot such tiny groups. I suppose if I really needed higher energy I’d use them but I prefer accuracy and quietness. Cheers from the UK.
When projectiles transition from supersonic, to subsonic, it can create a substantial amount of turbulence and harm accuracy, so long range shots with a 22lr are a little easier with a subsonic round. ( I'm saying this is in addition to firearm / barrel differences, of course )
@@brian_sipe you’re quite right of course. It seemed odd to me that even at 50 m the high velocity ammo ( still healthily supersonic) wouldn’t group as small as the subsonic stuff. I don’t know why this should be the case - all I can guess at is that subsonic.22lr cartridges might be very closely related to target ammunition by the same makers and therefore has had a lot of R and D money invested in consistency/accuracy but that’s a guess and there may be purely ballistic factors at work.
To use Mr. Harrell’s favourite latin word - another caveat during testing .22lr for accuracy is the need to let the barrel settle down to the new ammo. The lining of lubrication wax and combustion products is going to change by ammo brand and velocity. When I put my first wax covered Eley subsonic through a freshly cleaned barrel it is consistently two inches off on the vertical axis at 50 meters and takes a 5 or 10 shots to settle back to zero and consistency. The .22lr is such a valuable practise weapon not leat because it’s so hard to be accurate with. I can always get better groups with a good quality .243 or 6.5x55 even on a windless day. With best wishes.
It’s strange that a shot barrel shoots more true than a clean barrel ?
I stopped cleaning my rifle until after hunting season closes but then I will put a box of 50 down range and then it’s back to 0 !
Is the fowling creating a better seat for the bullet to be stable as it leaves the barrel?
Maybe Paul could shed some light on this?
all ya need(for squirrels), is a bee/pellet gun and the ability to hit the spine near the back of the neck; your dogs will do the rest...or, my Chows did anyway
Good content Paul, I can understand why someone might consider use of 22 for personal defense if they only have one firearm, appreciate your comprehensive review, as always solid information to consider.
I only have an old 22 revolver for concealed carry/personal Protection/home defense so I’ve been wondering what ammo to buy. Thanks Paul for the awesome video as always!
Go put a center fire hand gun on lay a way! A .22 is better than nothing, but it's not sufficient to kill BEFORE the bad guy kills you...
Get at least a .380 it's still kinda small. A .40 or larger probably where you want to be, for personal defense.
38 revolver would be nicer
@@CHMernerner I know, but your not in my position. It’s all I have and it beats nothing.
@@jackdundon2261 I want a .357 some time in the future but in my state I don’t have to worry as much about crime as almost all the other states.
I also keep a 22lr revolver for home defense. 22lr revolvers can also be fussy about ammo, so do some testing on your own. Mine do not like Stingers, poor accuracy and lots of spray from the cylinder gap. They love the Yellow Jackets but I haven't seen them in my area for years. My primary which is a Taurus 94 (9 shot, 4inch double action) actually shots the best with plain old Federal Lightning a 40gr lrn high velocity. Try out the different types that are availible to you and pick what you like best. Good luck. 22lr=shot placement is paramount....
Thank you for the video. Appreciate all your 22lr videos because its really the only caliber i feel comfortable practicing with these days.