I used them for light longsowrd sparring (ohnly helmet and gloves) and can't find anything wrong here. Every hit I could take to my bare unprotected arms the RD can handle. For everything harder I'd recommend heavier gloves.
The problem with the size is that if it's not yours, even though it fits, it restricts your mobility, that twist of the wrist that you see in the video with the sidesword, I can't do it with that fluidity due to the problem with the size
Yes, sizing can definitely be an issue with their limited options. And you can’t really allow yourself to go with slightly different one if your hands are proportionally different than what the maker expects(longer fingers but smaller palm for example).
Do you think they are okay for longsword sparring (lighter feders and synthetics) in more of a "club level" free-play kinda thing rather then competition level with the spes fingertip protectors? I try to get something thats more mobile then those clam-shell things, and i also want something that works well with lighter weapons like messer or arming sword and buckler.
Really depends on the level and intensity of club level sparring you do. It's possible and I have done it and others do it, but I wouldn't really recommend it. With synthetics it can be better, as at least the wide edges and tips are less likely to get in. It's certainly a bigger risk than clam-shells but it is doable.
It's good for longsword sparring between reasonable sparring partners, I'd say. It's ok for glancing blows and controlled hits of opportunity. The mobility and smaller target profile (compared to gauntlets) means it's easier to avoid hits to the hands as well. They are NOT for people who think: "hmmm, his hands/fingers are not well protected. Therefore, my primary target! Banzaiii!"
Are you sure that you really used them ? because mine didn't last one year in in that condition. Even without spaaring the cross of the longsword damaged mine quite a lot. Did you sparr with them or what do you do with them ? And which weapons do you use with them. Because i think the Longsword itself damaged them quite a lot.
Hahha, yes, I am pretty sure I used them :) I guess it depends on how much you use them per practice. Most of my sparring sessions with arming sword and S&B are with them, as well as sideswords. For LS I use them from time to time during technical exercises and rarely in light sparring sessions or on the left hand only.
1. let's establish that beating each other with what amounts to "poorly balanced bar maces" as hard as we can, with regularity, is kinda dumb. 2. Let's also finally accept that we are practicing carving each other up with swords, not beating each other with poorly balanced bar maces. 3. Swords are sharp (they're bar maces otherwise), and remove limbs, fingers, heads, and sever tendons/arteries/muscles with surprisingly little effort 4. Neither bar mace (blunt "swords") nor fancy-carved sticks (waisters) bind remotely like sharps do (the thing you're actually practicing for the use of), but sticks are easier to make safer than a bar mace. 5. if a sword (or in the case of practice, a sword-simulator) is coming at you... GTFO of the way, any way you can! 6. If you stick your hand out there to be cut off... to include making a habit of intercepting an opposing blade very low on your sword...it probably will be eventually. Hand hits are not "OK", it means you're doing something wrong (the occasional "lucky" strike happens, but it should be relatively infrequent). 7. #1 rule of combatives: protect yourself at ALL TIMES. That solves most of the "problems" of "insufficient" HEMA hand protection... next up, leg protection (one of the hardest to hit targets on the body, yet people worry too much about)!
This is actually a useful review! Thank you!!!
I am glad you find it useful.
I used them for light longsowrd sparring (ohnly helmet and gloves) and can't find anything wrong here.
Every hit I could take to my bare unprotected arms the RD can handle.
For everything harder I'd recommend heavier gloves.
That's a good way to look at things - if you can take the hit with bare hand or light gloves - the RD will work fine.
Excellent and conscise review, subbed.
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Nice review man. After three years of use, i would hope they'd have been sufficient!
Thanks! Yes, sufficient as long as you use them for the correct things.
The problem with the size is that if it's not yours, even though it fits, it restricts your mobility, that twist of the wrist that you see in the video with the sidesword, I can't do it with that fluidity due to the problem with the size
Yes, sizing can definitely be an issue with their limited options. And you can’t really allow yourself to go with slightly different one if your hands are proportionally different than what the maker expects(longer fingers but smaller palm for example).
Do you think they are okay for longsword sparring (lighter feders and synthetics) in more of a "club level" free-play kinda thing rather then competition level with the spes fingertip protectors? I try to get something thats more mobile then those clam-shell things, and i also want something that works well with lighter weapons like messer or arming sword and buckler.
Really depends on the level and intensity of club level sparring you do. It's possible and I have done it and others do it, but I wouldn't really recommend it. With synthetics it can be better, as at least the wide edges and tips are less likely to get in. It's certainly a bigger risk than clam-shells but it is doable.
It's good for longsword sparring between reasonable sparring partners, I'd say. It's ok for glancing blows and controlled hits of opportunity. The mobility and smaller target profile (compared to gauntlets) means it's easier to avoid hits to the hands as well.
They are NOT for people who think: "hmmm, his hands/fingers are not well protected. Therefore, my primary target! Banzaiii!"
Yes, any exercise that would specifically target hands and/or is at higher or uncontrolled intensity should not be done with those.
Are you sure that you really used them ? because mine didn't last one year in in that condition. Even without spaaring the cross of the longsword damaged mine quite a lot.
Did you sparr with them or what do you do with them ? And which weapons do you use with them. Because i think the Longsword itself damaged them quite a lot.
Hahha, yes, I am pretty sure I used them :) I guess it depends on how much you use them per practice.
Most of my sparring sessions with arming sword and S&B are with them, as well as sideswords. For LS I use them from time to time during technical exercises and rarely in light sparring sessions or on the left hand only.
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1. let's establish that beating each other with what amounts to "poorly balanced bar maces" as hard as we can, with regularity, is kinda dumb.
2. Let's also finally accept that we are practicing carving each other up with swords, not beating each other with poorly balanced bar maces.
3. Swords are sharp (they're bar maces otherwise), and remove limbs, fingers, heads, and sever tendons/arteries/muscles with surprisingly little effort
4. Neither bar mace (blunt "swords") nor fancy-carved sticks (waisters) bind remotely like sharps do (the thing you're actually practicing for the use of), but sticks are easier to make safer than a bar mace.
5. if a sword (or in the case of practice, a sword-simulator) is coming at you... GTFO of the way, any way you can!
6. If you stick your hand out there to be cut off... to include making a habit of intercepting an opposing blade very low on your sword...it probably will be eventually. Hand hits are not "OK", it means you're doing something wrong (the occasional "lucky" strike happens, but it should be relatively infrequent).
7. #1 rule of combatives: protect yourself at ALL TIMES.
That solves most of the "problems" of "insufficient" HEMA hand protection... next up, leg protection (one of the hardest to hit targets on the body, yet people worry too much about)!
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