Superior Fencing HEMA Gear - Does it Live up to its Name?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2018
- In this review I'm taking a look at leg and arm protection and a gorget from Superior Fencing. This stuff is affordably priced, so very relevant to beginners and people on a budget.
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Instructions: soak groin in ice water for ten (10) minutes prior to applying groin protector cup.
sounds like a normal day anywhere in the northern hemisphere
XD
Just a little comment for people in North America. From communication I had with Superior Fencing, it is not really possible to waive the 120$USD for delivery even with group buys due to the weight associated with shipping/packaging of these full kits. Clubs doing large bulk order might be able to get deal but I am talking a small orders here. Without fees associated with money transfer, the real cost of the base kit is 390usd $.
That gear looks very similarly to riot control gear
Makes sense, both are for protecting against blunt melee/thrown attacks
matthew hurley true, I but even the molding looks almost identical. At least for the shin/leg protectors and the thigh ones too
Next video: sparring with riot control gear
Brandon Key Next Video:
Going to an actual riot with sparring gear and throwing pommels at whoever gets in the way
Sernguard Song I imagine that there’s only so far you can go with differences in in leg protection.
What i've learned from HEMA:
Getting hit sucks.
I don't do HEMA but Kung Fu and once when we practised spinning kicks on pads in a line I got hit by my neighbour. We were spinning in opposite directions so it was effectively twice the power and his heel hit my calf.
I could effectively not walk for over a week.
Keep your calfs save
AtomToast ouch, I could almost feel that pain as I imaged your story.... thanks for sharing
This is a part of wing chun conditioning in my school (still not with full force until you're super pro) and even with best pads I end up bruised as fuck
*stares at unprotected shins and knees*
"Hey, my eyes are up here."
Hey skallagrim! Just thought id drop in and let you know that my DM has crafted a weapon named after you in our DND game. The stats and properties are as follows:
Skallagrim's Sword of Righteousness is a +1 magic longsword. As a bonus action, you may unscrew the pommel of your sword and throw it at a target within range (30/60). On a hit, it deals 1d4 + Str modifier bludgeoning damage and the target must make a DC 10 Wisdom saving throw or be stunned until the start of their next turn. The pommel magically returns at the start of your next turn.
End your opponent rightly!
Borrowing this for future use.
I feel like that's way too powerful for a bonus action, have fun breaking your dms game
TIL: Skal is well endowed 😂😂😂
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Presses F to pay respects
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Gonna buy this for crime fighting
Phoenix Jones?
I DON'T WEAR HEMA PADS
Lost Marimo make sure you practice your rough trash voice
@@tinpham62 I don’t know why but I read that in a duke nukem voice
Bootleg Batman
Hey Skall great video. Really helpful for me, since I am looking at starting HEMA soon. I was amazed by the price of this, really affordable, and great for me as someone with little money. Keep up the great work.
I'm in the same boat.
Do be aware that shipping is a little pricey, since it's coming from Pakistan, but it's still cheaper than anything else I can find, and the full kit comes with extras, like a gear bag.
Oh yeah forgot about the shipping part, guess I'll have to pick up some extra work. Thanks
It's fine as long as it's pommel proof...
Need the protection against a rightly end.
nothing is pommel proof
what about armor made from pommels
Knorkrax nothing is pommel proof
BLASPHEMY!!! NOTHING IS POMMEL PROOF
Great video, the sneezing part especially resonates with me during the summer hayfever.
glad to see the HEMA world growing!
Glad to have seen some Skaldong
Thanks. I'll have to keep this brand in mind.
I am very glad to see mote economic options for Hema Gear.
Proud to see that until this day pommel memes still live, may it last a thousand year
That barrage of sneezes in the outtakes!
Ah, Skall is shower.
The grower advantage prevail!
always love learning about armor and i will use this as some reference to where and what kind of armor i need when i sign up for HEMA in the future
My club and I had a massive order from Supfen come in recently and we're all loving the gear. Our tutor has a full set of Neyman gear which is fantastic, but expensive. The Supfen gear has really helped get our club up to snuff gearwise while being good on a budget.
So wiring cash payment worked out?
Hi sir
We are manfacturer and supplier of hema kit fencing
That sneeze man cracked me up hard. That's exactly how I sneeze, Like an unannounced machine gun.
I bought the full Kit no. 1 and i am quite happy with it. I agree the gorget is not good. I can also see why it is cheaper. The plastic of the leg/elbow/knee guards is quite light. I would be suprised if it was still in great condition in two years from now. still the pants and jacket is fantastic, the arm guards are fantastic and the leg/ knee pads are fine. All in all it is an excellent way to get into Hema. I mean the full kit is the price of a jacket only from other manufacturers.
Hey Skal, just had an interesting thought that you might find as a fun topic. What if the entire human race decided to abandon firearms and chose to go back to ending people rightly again. What do you think modern melee weapons and armour sets would look like? Might me interesting to look at considering modern technologies and production mehtods. Love the content btw =D
Armor would be ridiculously common since economy is completely different from what it was centuries ago, so cutting weapons would disappear from any fight. You just can't cut those armors (to be fair you never could, it's just that full "decent" armor was scarcely available and most would have some sort of padded jackets etc), and you can't really stab efficiently either. I wouldn't be surprised if we could make an armor that has virtually no gap.
So that means we would use blunt weapons only, which would make the armor evolve into some kind of high shock absorbing gear.
........Or not really. Cause the thing is even tho we can't have firearms, we would have different kind of ranged weapons. Modern crossbows are far more powerful than ancient ones, far more precise, and far easier to operate. I'm pretty sure there is actually no protection that can't be pierced by a heavy modern crossbow.
......But in truth if we didn't have firearms, that would necessarily mean we can't possibly have modern technologies and machinery right? We might just end up making electric rifles, Gaussian rifles....and could we use bombs? Missiles? Weapons of mass destruction? Like nuclear, radiological, chemical, biological....?
Yhea i know, i'm a party pooper.
No no, good points and i was thinking that we get rid of explosives and basically most of the weaponry from the last 4 or 5 centuries like a modern medieval age or how medieval people would utilise modern production methods for their way of doing things.
I don't know why we would but I thought it might be interesting to look at what might be created and used with modern tech.
Similar to stuff shown in this video with polymers and hard plastic and maybe high grade steel mail/plate etc. I'm really curious what type of things people might develop now, I mean, modern knights or legionnaries might look seriously cool.
Just something that might be fun to play with as an idea.
In the Dune series they have somewhat done that. They have developed personal shields that can stop most things that moves too fast, so you can’t use projectile weapon (unless they move slow through the shields) and laser weapons courses nuclear explosions if used on a shield (both on the shield and the shooter).
Because of that, they use melee weapons a lot but mostly short weapons (knifes and such) because you have to get through the shield before you can move fast. Makes for some strange fighting compared to medieval fights. Strangely I don’t recall reading a lot about armor which would have made it very hard to kill someone if you could only use a knife and not move it too fast.
Cutting weapons wouldn't completely disappear. The longsword can be useful against an armoured opponent. Maces don't have pommels.
I've never actually seen Dune but I'll give it a look. I like that idea quite a lot though, forcing melee combat and fits with the kinda thing I was thinking about.
As well, although sci-fi and not realistic, the amrour from the oldr-republic era of star wars with the jedi and the sith is similar to what I'm thinking about although I've never looked at that armour with practicality in mind.
1:43 keep that combination it does look sick af
Polyethylene is what Hardhats are made of, Skall. It is sturdy stuff and can take a fair bit of abuse before it fails, including abrasion which some plastics are not as resistant to.
Wow, those are incredible prices!
Man i hope i can get one of those...
but, how does it perform for kinky roleplay?
Not sturdy enough, for that you need plastic with at least pommelveil rating of apocalypseproof.
Wow those are amazing body armor set 👍👍👍
and affordable too 😀😁
Well I'm just doing custom upgrades to my SPES-protectors and I'm happy with that. :) Mainly just adding extra padding on the shoulders under the jacket (I just have the regular SPES AP-jacket). I'm considering proper external hard shoulder guards since getting hit on the boney parts of the shoulder hurts quite bad...
I've also modded my SPES-heavy gloves with better thumb protection and I'm going to modify the tying down of the "plates" on top of the thumb to close the gap that forms when you grip the sword between the second and third section (counted from the tip of the thumb). Just drilling two small holes in the third plate and looping the rubber string that ties down the second section through there fixes that problem. (Got the idea from a guy in our local HEMA club.)
So being 196 cm this gear would really really suck for me. Gotcha
The cup I got with my kit was just a cricket cup inside a jock strap type thing and seemed way too small. It does not work/fit if you wear over the top of anything even just underwear but if you wear it under everything it works. The fabric stretches and fits everything in snugly 👍
i loved the pun at the end
that sneeze streak at the end xD
I use and like the gorget from destroyer modz. Just to tease I think it is cute to say gorjay instead of gorget or gorjit as per dictionary. I call it double frenching a word like salay for salet or helmay for helmet 😁
I like your bloopers
Hard calf hits like are also major risk for deep vein trombosis (blood clot in the big deep veins) and that's not good in itself but if it dislodges and reaches your lungs you're in a major medical emergency (potentially fatal). So calf protection is a very good idea even if getting hit there is rare.
Bless you
i picked up a LOT of various gear like hockey leg protector, elbow protectors and cricket pads for a few dollars a piece which are better than or very similar to HEMA expensive same things - for new people to our club... but I find I am starting to use them as well...
some 9the hockey ones) are actually black and have seperate knee and shin guards like the official HEMA pads but once again I found some (i go to charity shops often... just habit from my mother ) .. i have bought quite a few and given them to my club so any new people can engage in sword play with guarding and it doens't cost us a fortune
Now everyone is gonna be assessing junk size at their HEMA club. Nice one!
That cup also seems to just fit on the outside. Now, I'm all for bringing back the codpiece (and if HEMA ever becomes more organised and introduces some sort of ranking system like the EMAs with their belts of various colours, it should be coloured codpieces) but until then - gentlemen, please cover your cups.
At the Victoria Highland Games Open (the one Skall competed in) several had mask style codpieces like the Comedy/Drama masks. They were pretty cool, but I didn't want to walk up to a stranger and start staring at his crotch.
Bless you.
That outtake made me sneeze!!! dammit lol
Bless you ;)
Some medieval/futurist BDSM outfit that is.
Actually it's just a riot gear.
Doesn't look BDSM-ish, but it does look like something you'd find in X-Com.
Kharmazov you have replied to every other comment complaining that this is riot gear. Dude, get a life...
What can I say I like riot gear.
Kharmazov I understand, I am obsessed with socks for some reason...
Nice of them to let you get in a solid humble brag.
Superior fencing does custom sizes, I ordered some gear from them and they will be making it to my size since I'm tall. I'm waiting on the order to be made and sent now, I'll update this when I get the gear
Did you get it? I want to order little reluctant to wire cash.
Hahaha "If you fit in this...well...im sorry" 🤣🤣🤣
Damn Skall, you were really hard on the 7-year old that made this. 15:14
Again. How I wish I could get my hands on this stuff
Honestly I think a big padded skirt type arrangement might be the best groin armor.
I’m curious to know if you can use actual armer for hema. I know it would be expensive, you might have to have tailored, and it would be hard to find, but if you could would is there any cons to using that other than the stuff you showed in the video?
Diamond MMA cups are really good. If you're looking for an option that is better than ShockDoctor.
I was watching at your T in the backround ^^
I already knew it was a hatch exotech from the thumbnail.
It's basically a rebranded riot suit
I promise, I'm not trying to make a synth of you...
What are your wrist-to-elbow measurements?
Knee-to-Ankle?
easy. mix and match with minor modifications. the key aspect i feel is its affordability. due to it being relatively cheap in comparison to other gear, you could modify it with out feeling like you're stabbing yourself in the leg
AHA!
I like the thigh protectors, do you happen to have a feedback on them so far?
Hey, the second link in the description to Purpleheart Armory just leads to the main page. Was it a link to a specific product?
Skall has higher pitched sneezes than i would have guessed
12:32 nice choker you have there
Kvetun Armoury leg protectors also protect the backside of the leg.
The only Canadian that knows his height in metric without looking on his license... I'm impressed
Yeah, as a 6' 3'' bloke (~190cm) I think I'm out of luck on the shin guards, unfortunate as I agree they are more effective save for the velcro. Thigh guards look great, but I'm curious as to why the rear thigh doesn't get a protective section like the shin guards have for the calves as I definitely take more hits there than on my calf. They do seem to come around quite far though, maybe it isn't an issue when wearing it's hard to tell from the video. Fully agree on the cup, this is something I experienced when I started competition sparring in karate, and was thoroughly unprepared for (and I am not ashamed to admit I am far from the most well endowed fellow) the experience of 'out the sides' as you mentioned. The cup you say you use is also not linked in the description... The arm guards seem from the video much less likely to let a tip sneak in around the inside elbow, between the arm guard section and the elbow cup, at least less than the Spes ones you show, that is a major plus in my book. Although, if they are another section that does not allow for the long bois like myself. Now you're mentioning the price points, holy guacamole that might assuage my concerns! I agree with your assessment of the gorget, that thing looks superfluous by all accounts. Excellent review, more armour!
as a skinny bloke all bone shots hurt. i like the look of tthe hip protecttion
16:14 Same bruh.
Would that PBT Gorget have reduced clavicle damage from that metal dragon that attacked you a few winters ago? Also did the remodeling after that change the shape of shoulder protection for you?
Hey what is the blade in the for honor past present and future trailer at the end people are saying scimitar but I don't think it is
Skal has such cute mannerisms lol
Nice package
the spes armprotector is made to go over a fencing jacket, that's why it's so wide
$300!? shit why didn't I see this before spending $500+ on my current HEMA gear?
Well, shipping from Pakistan is damn expensive, so don't feel too bad. I ordered the SF kit a little while ago and shipping was $110 USD to get it up to Canadaland. It's a pretty big package though, so it doesn't seem unreasionable.
You both do realize that this basically just a standard riot gear readily available from numerous tactical shops for law enforcement??
Kharmazov good to know, I suppose.
Kharmazov not sure what that has to do with the price, but OK.
It mean you can get a full set for less then 400 USD and that will include the body armor as well.
I'm assuming on your cup you would have a sports style on on the inside and that Superior Fencing one over the outside.
I've always found that the football or martial arts, so called "banana cup" is the best design for our sport. Worn in a jock against the skin underneath all of your other clothing.
it that a stereo digital audio recorder in your pocket or are you excited to see us ?
I remember reading a comment asking Skall to check out chainmail bikinis and I have the oddest feeling he'd open the video just like he did this one.
Darek Baird I’ve got the weirdest boner
its a bird its a plane no its plasticman . nice video greeets
I see you brought protection ;)
Holy hell protective gear I feel so safe watching this maybe I should go jump in a bubble and run outside
Have you looked at konning gloves, they are pretty good, I know a guy with them, and have seen him in a tourney with them and the hood up really well, they seem worth the $200 price tag
Was wondering
What are your thoughts on the
“Ninja” Sai?
Effective or no??
most cups have that issue in my experience. i lost an mma fight due to that exact reason. took a kick in the balls and it completely fucked me because the cup sliced into where it shouldn't have. probably the worst pain I've ever felt, worse than a broken ankle. probably would have been better off w/o the cup.
I have a co-worker who is a martial artist. I have seen him do some stunning and remarkable things. He does this thing that simply looks like he's turning around to walk away from you, but strikes you in the thigh. He can knock a person a cross the room with it, make one nauseous with a light strike, and cause actual vomiting if he strikes harder. I don't believe thigh guards are useless or not necessary.
Finally I've seen his feet
this is not the first time that anyone can see his feet, in most sparring videos he is barefoot and in previous videos where he talked about protection for HEMA
Oobie Doobie K apparently you havent seen many of his videos
270€ is superb! I think i should start with Hema...
What about the jacket, though? The SPES jackets are good, I also use the AP pro though I feel like the Hussar is more of what you would want. Is their jacket even comparable to AP pro?
bliss you that was some sneezing there take care of yourself no need to catch a cold
Invisible the term is BLESS you
This looks like this would make good motorcycle gear with some d30
Did you test this gear in any sparring at all, I've been looking into this kit to get into HEMA.
Probbably
An athletic cup would be the better option. Maybe make a custom cod piece to go on the outside if you want to frighten/disgust your enemies.
GROIN!
T H I C C skall at 7:13
I'm working on piecing together a armor for the zombie apocalypse.
Have you ever seen any of the Troy Hurtubise bear armor videos with Project Grizzly (1996)?
Does Blood&Iron have some textbook? I'm really willing to learn HEMA, but we don't have local school, so i'll have to gather information
As far as cops go, I prefer Diamond MMA cups. Stronger than others(even stops 9mm rounds). And the shorts are VASTLY better than shock dr, under armor and others. Sadly, for ladies the only decent cup I found is the hockey one from shock dr. And yes for high impact stuff ovaries benefit from proper protection.
Skall needs a jumbo sized cup, lol.
First frame of the video. Semi closeup of skall's groin with something protruding. Can't say I'm mad, but how does Cara feel about this?
I am thinking of buying the entire set (the HEMA Full kit), but when I look at the pants, the pants look different from the one in the bundle. Is this actually different or is it still the same, and does it look just a bit funny?