Ninebot ES/SNSC Custom Firmware (CFW) ST-Link Flash Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 10 тра 2024
  • Hack your Ninebot ES1/2/3/4 scooter's firmware boost speed and acceleration up to 20+mph!
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    If you still have any questions regarding the steps performed in this video, feel free to leave them in the comments section below and we will try to get back to you as soon as possible. If you are looking for help regarding hacking an ex impounded rental scooter or other Ninebot scooter help , please join the Scooter Hacking Discord discussion channel by following the steps here: www.scooterhacking.org/
    Useful Links:
    Command Line Commands: hackmd.io/@aJPspKtTS7Gd4_5OLC...
    Scooter Hacking Wiki Ninebot ES: wiki.scooterhacking.org/index...
    Stock/OEM Dashboard Firmware: wiki.scooterhacking.org/index...
    If the wiki is down: drive.google.com/file/d/1AAXm...
    ST Link Documentation: hackmd.io/s/Bki2fcWwE
    Ninebot Custom Firmware (CFW) Generator: ninebot.scooterhacking.org/
    Motor Power Constant (MPC) Data: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Scooter Hacking Wiki Home/Donate: wiki.scooterhacking.org/index...
    Scooter Hacking Hub: www.scooterhacking.org/
    Ninebot ES/SNSC ESC/control board flashing tutorial: • Ninebot ES/SNSC ESC/Co...
    Miscellaneous useful files n' stuff: drive.google.com/drive/u/1/fo...
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  • @BilZbUb
    @BilZbUb 4 роки тому +10

    Comprehensive, easy to follow and notes safety concerns. Kudos and thank you.

  • @KagerouXD
    @KagerouXD 4 роки тому +5

    Thank you very much for the clear tutorial... worked perfectly for me after flashing the bluetooth dashboard. Though I could not flash the control board but that is not the issue causing my wheel to rattle when it turns, I found out that one of the hall sensor wire connecting to the motor is broken, so join them back and its working perfectly now.

  • @kalkurap
    @kalkurap 2 роки тому +2

    Followed the directions here and another video on this channels which shows how to flash the speed controller. I was able to successfully re-flash a spin scooter without much trouble. Thanks Banana Science!

    • @joshtaylor9585
      @joshtaylor9585 2 роки тому

      @kalkurap I'm getting ready to try and do that. What version of spin scooter was it Max or Max Plus? Could you give me any advice/ tips/ help lol.. btw I'm kinda a novice I know a lot and have played around modding several scooters but completely new to flashing although I've read a super ton on it maybe too much 🤯 appreciate any advice you could give

  • @MrMiix-qq7wd
    @MrMiix-qq7wd 4 роки тому +2

    i tried to put the mpc to 35000 fucked it all up hahahah, but i got a new one and 44000 is perfect , everything works in this video guys.
    this guy is really cool. Easy steps to follow . i wish all tutorials were like this. cheers

  • @markrodriguez2137
    @markrodriguez2137 4 роки тому +3

    👌👍🕺🕺🕺Yes it works.This is now the best scooter out there.Thank you.

  • @PlanetCypher_
    @PlanetCypher_ 4 роки тому +12

    @13:50 KERS = Kinetic Energy Recovery System = regenerative braking that also pushes a charge to the battery.

  • @taitheguy85
    @taitheguy85 4 роки тому +2

    Great vid. Better too fast, than too slow. Ez to pause. Annoying to wait.
    HLY SHT it worked! Perfect companion to the website tutorial. Got a scoter for dirt cheap!

  • @isacastillo6951
    @isacastillo6951 4 роки тому +3

    I love your work!!

  • @georgepentafragas2200
    @georgepentafragas2200 4 роки тому +4

    Hello to everyone.
    I have an ES4. I have never hacked anything. With the last update from Segway, which i think it was released about 3 weeks ago, my scooter now goes up to 32km easily. Also it used to suddenly brake when i was going downhill in order to not pass 32km (which was a bit dangerous) but that braking is also gone. Yesterday for example I went 40km downhill.

    • @Zamani3033
      @Zamani3033 4 роки тому

      Is this with full battery and without cruise control?

    • @georgepentafragas2200
      @georgepentafragas2200 4 роки тому

      @@Zamani3033 No cruise control. Battery doesn't matter if it is fully charged. I get 32km even if the battery is at 50%.

  • @xante1162
    @xante1162 4 роки тому +1

    I did exactly as the video shows and works just fine! tks! :D

    • @Platinum989
      @Platinum989 4 роки тому

      Which scooter was it?

    • @xante1162
      @xante1162 4 роки тому

      Ninebot es4

    • @lautypaz
      @lautypaz 4 роки тому

      What is the top speed?

    • @xante1162
      @xante1162 4 роки тому

      36km/h straight line. with 43000 cfg

  • @theomanu7290
    @theomanu7290 4 роки тому +1

    Have you ever had a problem with the control boards? Mine appears to have broken by itself on my ES3. Do you have a tutorial on how to fix this?

  • @Ramanych
    @Ramanych 4 роки тому

    Большое спасибо за инструкцию. Прошил через Flasher свой самокат и он стал резвее ,но скорость с 27 км\ч поднялась лишь до 30 км\ч , хотя я задавал максимальную в 35 км\ч.

  • @vascocosta1415
    @vascocosta1415 5 років тому +3

    Works fine! Thanks

  • @karservisas8347
    @karservisas8347 3 роки тому +2

    Hello, I can't find full_ble.bin file in /firmware/esx/BLE/. Can you advice something?

  • @ihuybui510
    @ihuybui510 5 років тому +5

    Hi, After you are done with the firmware flashing do you resolder the C15 capacitor?

  • @rickiekohlhepp6867
    @rickiekohlhepp6867 4 роки тому +1

    Hello. I preciously left some questions and am still stuck and dont know what to do, but I want and need to learn tk be self sufficient. So anyways, I went ahead and made a purchase to show you that I am serious and will give your group money for teaching me. Everything you covered i ha e because you guys are really effective teachers( and at such a impresive age. Please consider us linking up via pcs and I could share my sceeen and watch what you do to get thru what i am having issues with. Please consider I really need it. Eternally indebted to you!

  • @jamesthomas8481
    @jamesthomas8481 3 роки тому

    Say i remember hearing somewhere that the stlink is no longer needed, a new update eliminated the use for it. Is this true or will I still need the st link?

  • @ignacioramiro2676
    @ignacioramiro2676 3 роки тому +1

    links for stock firmware is not available any more. can you upload again? Thank you.

  • @dryoutubee
    @dryoutubee 10 місяців тому +1

    I have a question regarding other segway C15e ... I tried to lock it back or reset but not quite success..since there is no app for it !? Any idea how we can lock it ? Or reverse activation thx

  • @hdim5651
    @hdim5651 3 роки тому +2

    Heyy, links for Stock/OEM Dashboard Firmware are down :cc Ty !

  • @brunoapolinario883
    @brunoapolinario883 4 роки тому

    Hello!
    I did all the correct steps but when connecting the ninebot flash to the scooter it detects the scooter but does not let the option open file to be able to insert the bin file.
    What could I have done wrong?
    The screen on the scoter only flashes.
    Thank you

  • @alexanderdavenport319
    @alexanderdavenport319 Рік тому

    so I just had a new Controler (ESC) and a new Bluetooth dashboard delivered from eBay. Do I need to do any programing to any of those two pieces just to operate at regular speed?

  • @BuGsTeR447
    @BuGsTeR447 4 роки тому +1

    Ive succesfully flashed the dash but still cant chenge bluetooth name. Any solutions?

  • @TheOKmethod
    @TheOKmethod Рік тому

    Can someone tell me if any of these steps will work for a Segway mini lite? I bought one that was supposedly “new” works ok, but I can’t get it to connect via Bluetooth therefor I have additional feature/mode control. Rather then passing on my problem to someone else by selling it, thought I’d see if flashing the firmware would fix it. Any guidance is appreciated.

  • @darrengreene-wynter5296
    @darrengreene-wynter5296 4 роки тому +1

    can I do this with the dashboard on the jump scooters? Also how would I get stock firmware on the ESC of the bird scooters. I heard that they now have custom firmware

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Darren Greene-Wynter this will work with any ex rental scooter that utilizes Ninebot ES/SNSC hardware (note some things may need to be replaced) Yes, the new BIRD scooters are using proprietary firmware on their ESCs but it can be removed via flashing stock firmware using the ST Link. Please refer to the scooter hacking forums for more details on that. (See ninebot section about error 10) This does involve completely dismantling your powertrain, however, and if you just don’t want to have to go through the hassle of flashing the ESC you can just buy a new one online (note you still will need to dismantle your entire powertrain to install the new one)

  • @XFILMZ
    @XFILMZ 4 роки тому

    Hey man! Did you purchase a new speed controller or are you using the voi speed controller?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      The one we happen to use in this video was an ex Bird speed controller.

  • @AdoxXxs
    @AdoxXxs 3 роки тому

    If i Order a Original Dashboard and Controller Board Replacement part from AliExpress, do i need to do this procedure.(I only ask because the sellers write that it is activated)

  • @anasbo1196
    @anasbo1196 5 років тому +1

    Hello want to ask you, can i do it with mac pc or only windows. And another question. The usb key you have, its a special one or can i buy it everyplace?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому

      You can buy the ST Linker USB device from the link in the description below. You can use mac to do the ST Link flashing (terminal code is a bit different so make sure to check the website where I copy the commands from for the mac version) but you will need to use an android or windows to upload the stock firmware. You could boot into windows on a mac using boot camp though which should probably work.

  • @flamaest
    @flamaest 4 роки тому +2

    Very well made video!

  • @alenvelic8319
    @alenvelic8319 4 роки тому

    Hej!
    I succesfully flashed the dash with st-link, but when i connect dash to the scooter it doesn't work, nothing lights up on dash and only the sound is heard and the lights come on. There is nothing I can turn off until I unplug the battery from esc.

  • @mno3ddesign3dprint
    @mno3ddesign3dprint 3 роки тому

    Do you have any idea how can I active Bluetooth connetion of ES4 (SNSC1.0)?

  • @takarahex6355
    @takarahex6355 4 роки тому +1

    Hello, I got a jump scooter from the impound, the esc has a green light blinking. Do you think I need to replace that esc as well the dashboard. Or I can just flash the dashboard that comes with it? Or maybe I need to get replacement one from amazon for both of them. Thank you

    • @johnmiles5532
      @johnmiles5532 4 роки тому +1

      yea replace the control board and flash the dash then it shouldwork

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Yonas mesikir yup!

  • @graczuwro
    @graczuwro 3 роки тому

    After installing CFW i cant change scooter name thru ninebot app, and how to secure from changing my CFW to toher, by other persons? ( solder back c15? )

  • @neilbandier
    @neilbandier 4 роки тому +1

    Hi I have a doubt with the ESC (electronic speed control) is not the same dashboard? It is the motherboard that is where the battery is connected. I have a scooter of that tutorial reference but it does not turn on, nothing appears on the screen if I turn off the taillights, turn on the screen but not the speedometer. I think it is a type of blocking my concern is that I bought the dashboard and it doesn't work. I lose my money. What advise me please

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Is it an ex rental scooter? The two electrical components people confuse a lot are the dashboard and the control board (AKA ESC). If you have an ex rental scooter you will likely have to flash the control board as well as the dash to get it to work.

  • @juana2254
    @juana2254 4 роки тому +2

    Hi, it's posible to use another internal battery as external or "Second" battery?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      Funny you ask. As I'm writing this reply we are editing a tutorial video on exactly that. (should be out in a week) Until then, check out our Thingiverse post for some more info. www.thingiverse.com/thing:3702069

  • @user-zx4vk2dg5u
    @user-zx4vk2dg5u 6 місяців тому

    Hi I would like to know if this will fix an error 42 and also make my scooter pick up Bluetooth? It was used rental unit.

  • @owengraham3211
    @owengraham3211 5 років тому +1

    i have an snsc bird. i replaced the tracker box with a dashboard. i have not flashed it yet but upon connecting the dashboard i get error 10. will flashing the original firmware fix this?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      Not sure if stock firmware will fix it but it's worth a shot. It it doesn't work check out this forum discussion: www.scooterhacking.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=40

  • @warrenwilliamson350
    @warrenwilliamson350 3 роки тому

    I purchased a refurbished es3 from Newegg. I road it a couple times and now I’m getting an error “A phase sampling”. Not sure if it needs a new main board. I can’t find any help on the net. Can someone point me In the right direction? Thanks

  • @mvidkjaer
    @mvidkjaer 4 роки тому +1

    Excellent video. I have installed the external battery on my ES2 and the speed on standard mode got a kick from 20 kph to 27 kph and the sports mode from 25 kph to 32 kph. This is way to fast for me. I basically just wanted the extra range and not the speed. The gap between limited mode and standard mode is a wopping 12 kph. Would it be possible to flash the firmware using a higher Moter power constant. Would that lower the speed for standard and sport mode? Will it influence the limitation mode where max is 15 kph at the current setup?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      To lower the max speed, change the top speed number in the CFW generator. Lowering the motor power constant will lower acceleration and torque but not top speed. I’m not sure if lowering the top speed affects non sport mode though. Let me know if you find out!

  • @SpookieNZL
    @SpookieNZL 5 років тому

    Excellent Video. I Noticed with the Online Tutorial has a Few Commands Missing? You add ( init then Press Enter ), Then the other Command ( reset halt enter etc ) Is that Guide the one you created online? Was Wondering if it was Possible if You Could put the Commands on here to make it easier to Copy & Paste. Or if its your Online Guide perhaps add the other missing commands? Thanks :-)

  • @Kacuri-kacebi
    @Kacuri-kacebi 2 роки тому +2

    hello i have a ninebot es4
    I wanted to increase the speed,And I uploaded the wrong zipp Then uploaded but No longer shuts down and writes error 10
    Who can help me?

  • @RealWorldReview
    @RealWorldReview 2 роки тому

    What about purple boards?

  • @sidewinder4861
    @sidewinder4861 4 роки тому

    ESC OFW dump: does not open in Ninebot Flasher...the file is incomplete...Do you have a better link?

  • @yenne1000
    @yenne1000 4 роки тому

    how manny MPC is safe but good power for es1 with external battery ?

  • @Quyrach
    @Quyrach 2 роки тому

    Hello, thank you for sharing the video. I'm using a ninebot ES2 car, I want to use the car's power to install the horn and turn signal lights. Can you guide me where to separate the power source from? sorry my english is not good, thank you very much.

  • @romanp1085
    @romanp1085 5 років тому +1

    Hello , thanks for the tutorial , I was wondering if this is still possible on a dashboard that’s display doesn’t work, the scooter works normally , only the display is not showing , you can only see it all turn on when you turn the scooter , kinda like with a car when you turn the ignition on and the dashboard lights all light up at the same time for a moment

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому

      Yup. you probably have a Spin dashboard which doesn't turn on because of a custom firmware they install on it. Not only will flashing custom firmware allow you to use a higher top speed, it will also make your dashboard light up and work normally.

    • @johnf2297
      @johnf2297 4 роки тому

      BananaScience I’m completely lost. I downloaded the file it’s in my documents. Goto command prompt put in the CDOCD stuff keeps saying cannot find document, it seems like it’s in a zip file but someone said it doesn’t show as a zip file need some help
      Dunestoriver@gmail.com

  • @donatassaltenis9148
    @donatassaltenis9148 4 роки тому

    Hello, i bought es3 from rental company. And bluetooth light is not blinking. Any ideas wheres might be the problem?

  • @sidewinder4861
    @sidewinder4861 4 роки тому

    Please help if you can, with these two problems...I flashed my brand new es4 with the ninebot flasher to this CFW and left everything the way it was set...why does the auto brake kick in when i reach 20 mph? Can't stand it...also my iphone ninebot app keeps asking me to upgrade to new firmware...spoofing is not sticking in CFW?

  • @garytreagust2391
    @garytreagust2391 4 роки тому

    Hi,
    best info I have seen so far but I am so stuck with my sons scooter , it just stopped working I have bought 2 sets of controller esc boards and dash boards and all I get is beeps and the right rear light flashes, the segway app says battery firmware needs updating . I cant find info on this any where any help would be appreciated it just beeps and only goes about 3 or 4 mph max. I have spent over £100 and waited over a month and it is still a piece of junk. any recommendation on a better scooter also I am fed up trying to fix this thing with no help from suppliers.

  • @deniscamacho1818
    @deniscamacho1818 3 роки тому

    Bonjour , j aurai une question pour toi , ma trottinette affiche « erreur 10 « connais tu un moyen de réparer cela ??

  • @nordemoniac
    @nordemoniac 4 роки тому

    Why is soldering necessary? Won’t most scooters have a stock dashboard?

  • @isaiabdielcruzirineo1543
    @isaiabdielcruzirineo1543 4 роки тому

    hola amigo tengo una duda mira mi pantalla la estaban arreglando pero me dicen que no tiene las entradas para swdio/clk/gnd fueron removidos por seguridad mi patín lo compre de un lote de patines ya usados unos en muy mal estado habrá forma que me pueda conectar por otro lado ??

  • @satish890
    @satish890 4 роки тому +1

    so you cant set any lower MPC on a ES1 with External battery ? or am I misunderstanding the spreadsheet

  • @Yukaparts
    @Yukaparts 3 роки тому

    Friend, I tried to flash my ES4 and now I turn it on, the screen immediately turns off and it begins to sound “beep beep beep” many times and I cannot accelerate, connect by bluethoot, or anything, how can I solve it? thanks

  • @mr.jimbusiness6326
    @mr.jimbusiness6326 4 роки тому +2

    Is it possible to pay you to do this if I send you several dashboards? Just the dump, I can do the Bluetooth part

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Yup! You can purchase a dashboard flashing service from our website. Please email us at banana.science.awesome@gmail.com for a bulk discount. www.bananascience.net/product-page/ninebot-es-dashboard-flashing-service

  • @awwpaw4489
    @awwpaw4489 2 роки тому

    Hey guys it is possible to speedhack ES3? Because i've done everything like in a video, but speed is the default.

  • @LoveUniqueStudios
    @LoveUniqueStudios 4 роки тому +1

    Just got a used es4. I can’t update the app and I can’t change the speed mode. Any ideas on how to fix this? I’m new to this so please describe sad best as possible. I also only own a Mac and iPhone. Thank you kindly!

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      You will need to change the serial number on your ESC. This can be done through the Ninebot Flasher app but is only possible with a PC I believe. We offer serial number changing services on our website bananascience.net though it would be a huge pain for you to have to ship your esc to us for such a small issue.

  • @sonnygines4518
    @sonnygines4518 5 років тому +2

    so if in fact i do have a spin dash board can i still use it and do the st-link flash and have it work

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      XD yeah

    • @derpherpp
      @derpherpp 4 роки тому

      illest oNe don’t u have to flash the control board also?

  • @szymonhamera7211
    @szymonhamera7211 4 роки тому

    hi can you do that for ninebot mini i know is old but ists kiling me max speed 10 mph, i will be very happy to change that.
    I do some reserch and have some konwolege but no expierience.

  • @shortfilipinoguy
    @shortfilipinoguy 4 роки тому

    I just got an ES4. And I'm the type to modify things. Is this truly safe? and even with todays up to date firmware I can technically just flash? I'll look into it more.

  • @Elliott_7
    @Elliott_7 4 роки тому +1

    I have a question , what if I have a bird scooter and I have the new dash board but I can’t make it run and the only way I know how to make run is buying a new controller is there another way to make it run Like flash the controller or something like that? Thanks have a nice day

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      Forfeit 7 TV Does it read error 10? If so check out the forums on how to flash the speed controller which will fix your issue.

  • @simonvilsgaardsvenstrup2828
    @simonvilsgaardsvenstrup2828 4 роки тому +1

    So if you want the original firmware then you have to disassemble it and if you want a custom one you just use ble?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      You need to flash OFW before you flash CFW. So if you want CFW you have to flash OFW first unless your scooter is not an ex-rental scooter.

  • @LucasDrougge
    @LucasDrougge 2 роки тому

    Cool! Does this work for yosemite e scooter as well? Model EH600. Would greatly appreciate a reply :)

  • @ChristianHoffer-rk8wm
    @ChristianHoffer-rk8wm 6 місяців тому

    Works with the ES1LD ? its without bluetooth !

  • @stanpeovitis7303
    @stanpeovitis7303 4 роки тому +3

    Hi, thanks for a great video. I just purchased a Ninebot Max, do you have a tutorial on how to remove the speed limiter on that model?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      We unfortunately don't but there's a section for that in the discord channel if you've got any questions.

    • @miguelbaltazar7095
      @miguelbaltazar7095 4 роки тому +1

      It would void the warranty right?

    • @honey-ro9xg
      @honey-ro9xg 4 роки тому

      Miguel Baltazar yes

    • @honey-ro9xg
      @honey-ro9xg 4 роки тому

      BananaScience what’s the discord?

  • @benjaminschutz727
    @benjaminschutz727 4 роки тому

    My c15 chip appears to be on the opposite side of the board or doesn’t exist, it’s a 2019 model, have you ever witnessed this?

  • @jimmychafins
    @jimmychafins 3 роки тому

    Anyway to do it without adding an external battery..?

  • @ClauSatanic
    @ClauSatanic 4 роки тому

    Hi! Do you now what is the voltage from the battery to the dashboard? I just bought an ES2 and is not turning on so I'm trying to test the dashboard and I measured voltages at the handlebar, two pins are 5v and other is 14.8v. Can you help me with some advice?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      ClauSatanic I’m not sure what the voltage is but that would be a great question for the discord server. It’s probably not turning on because you still need to flash your ESC.

    • @ClauSatanic
      @ClauSatanic 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience Thank you, I finally decided to open it and found the real trouble... Battery didn't work at all. I don't know how could they sold me a new scooter with that trouble :(

  • @markcozzie
    @markcozzie 2 місяці тому

    Did you do video how add custom battery?

  • @trickertinman
    @trickertinman 4 роки тому +1

    recommended mpc for an ES1 and ES3?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Please see the linked MPC data spreadsheet in the description.

  • @eliwhipple1854
    @eliwhipple1854 4 роки тому +1

    I am trying to connect to my dashboard using ninebot flasher, and it shows up on the list of bluetooth items as connectable. I connect to it, but all the buttons are greyed out and not usable. Why this and how can I fix?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Hmmm... Never heard of this issue before. Does your dashboard have the bluetooth light solidly on? Might be worth asking around in the Discord.

  • @pmsr1980
    @pmsr1980 3 роки тому +3

    Great video.
    I bought mine already modified and with external battery and I was having a blast with and has been a blessing to avoid using public transportation.
    Now, after less than 800kms and six months later, in Sport mode, everytime after a couple hundred meters after begining my daily use I'm having massive torque loss!! It takes forever to reach 30km/h and before was a metter of seconds... small uphills that was possible to make at 20kms/h now it's climbing at 8 / 9kms /h :(...
    What do you thing it could be and how to fix it, since I haven't found any solution in the internet?
    TY

    • @Tokzz69
      @Tokzz69 8 місяців тому

      Battery related problem probalbly

  • @VascoPCosta
    @VascoPCosta 5 років тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @jaypongs
    @jaypongs 2 роки тому

    hello is there any new sites that i can download the links for flashing my es2?

  • @jonathansteve228
    @jonathansteve228 2 роки тому

    Friend I have been working with the St-Link V2 but lately when I connect to the STM32 ST-LINK Utility I get an error like this:
    18:42:50 : Can not connect to target!
    If you're trying to connect to an STM32W1xx device, please select Normal or HotPlug mode from Target->Settings menu.
    If you're trying to connect to a low frequency application , please select a lower SWD Frequency mode from Target->Settings menu.
    18:42:51 : No target connected
    Know what is causing this problem, so far I can not solve it and I have updated drivers
    :C

  • @kriticalplays2734
    @kriticalplays2734 4 роки тому +1

    do you sell oem dashboard for that scooter

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Krystel Mahal Ko Unfortunately not but we do offer flashing services from our website.

  • @Shane-gb7hi
    @Shane-gb7hi 4 роки тому

    Hey bud , have seen a french tutorial where he just uses the ES_downG to flash the firmware bin from the custom firmware without going through the first stage of soldering in and wiping the OEM . I've tried it that way but no results that I can get anyway regardless of his comments from people claiming otherwise ,so I guess what I'm asking is there anyway of flashing custom firmware without the soldering in or is this the only way? By your knowledge I'm leaning towards your way. Thanks in advance. Great tutorial.

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Nope. The soldering method isn't just a less efficient way to get the same thing done. As we describe in the video, you need to use the ST link to flash OFW before flashing CFW over bluetooth.

    • @Shane-gb7hi
      @Shane-gb7hi 4 роки тому

      @@BananaScience cheers ,👍

  • @AlexfreDholm
    @AlexfreDholm 4 роки тому

    Do I really need to connect the dashboard with st link or can I direct use the ninebot flasher?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      You really need to connect the dashboard using an ST Link.

  • @Kchecksitout
    @Kchecksitout 4 роки тому +1

    Hi there, I have recently acquired a couple of impounded scooters from a wrecker and they are lyft branded. The main cable from the esc has 5 pin connection going up to the dash as the replacement ones only have 4 pins. Would this make a difference?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      Yes. You need to find out which of the five pins has battery voltage (use a multi meter to find 42v) and then just purchase a replacement 4 pin connector and ignore that high voltage pin when you wire in the replacement cable to your ESC.

    • @Kchecksitout
      @Kchecksitout 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience Ok, thank you so much for the information! Is the 42v there to power the dash that came with it? if i do ignore that would it still have the sufficient connections to power the replacement dash?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      @@Kchecksitout I'm not sure the exact purpose of the 42v wire (could be for power or for monitoring battery voltage but if you remove it, the ESC will work like normal.

    • @Kchecksitout
      @Kchecksitout 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience awesome! Thank you so much! I will definitely give it a try!

    • @Kchecksitout
      @Kchecksitout 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience Hey brother, I successfully flashed a dash using your method and rewired the 5 pin into a 4 pin and moved it to the standard location on the esc. I am now getting an eror 10. Doing research it seems the esc FW is not matched to the dash. Would you happen to have a tutorial for flashing the esc control board? Literally none around so you may be the first to do a tutorial! =) Thanks again! With each conversation i have with you comes 1 step closer to scooting!

  • @Poochyke
    @Poochyke 4 роки тому +1

    Hello, I am wondering if this works on the latest firmware version of today (July 17th 2019) ? I am not 100% comfortable in trying this; If I don't like the custom firmware, can I easily restore factory settings again? Or is the scooter permanently 'hacked' ? Thank you

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      I believe the newest version of CFW is still experimental so I would stick with stable releases. If you don't like the CFW, you can always just connect to your scooter on the ninebot app and flash OFW again.

    • @Poochyke
      @Poochyke 4 роки тому

      BananaScience thanks!

  • @e90_arif
    @e90_arif 5 років тому +1

    Can I just flash the cfw to the scooter or do I have to open the scooter

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      If you have ever replaced your dashboard, you will need to open the scooter to flash stock firmware first. If you have never replaced your dash, you can just flash your scooter right away with the ninebot flasher app

  • @RmK77
    @RmK77 5 років тому +2

    hello I found a VOI ninebote rental, what is the best way to use it, what do you recommend?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +2

      Assuming you attained the scooter by legal means, you will first need to determine whether your scooter has the tracker board mounted on a front facing pod or on a box on the handle bars. If it is in a front facing pod, you will need to buy a replacement electronic speed controller (ESC) and remove the tracker board as well as flash original firmware to the upper dashboard. If it just has a tracker box on top, you will need to remove the tracker and purchase a replacement dashboard. Let me know if you would likes links to purchase either the ESC or replacement dashboard.

    • @RmK77
      @RmK77 5 років тому +2

      @@BananaScience
      how to be on the location of the tracker, do you have pictures to not fool me
      Thank you

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      LeMaitreRmK Sorry you’re gonna have to work that out yourself. I’m not going to help you steal a scooter.

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Gabriel Gabrielsson join the Scooter Hacking wiki, forum, and discord from the links in the description. Also read through the comments on this video as I think many of them will answer your questions.

    • @LaoShimazaki
      @LaoShimazaki 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience lmao! i wonder if he ended stealing the scooter

  • @hilandthornton9655
    @hilandthornton9655 4 роки тому +1

    Would this mess with the app Connectability and under glow ?

  • @_ilir836
    @_ilir836 2 роки тому

    idk how i dowenload the openocd???

  • @Felisargyle
    @Felisargyle 5 років тому +2

    So if you have one of the non ninebot ones do you need to buy a new esc and a dashboard ?

    • @Felisargyle
      @Felisargyle 5 років тому +1

      My dashboard looks like the ninebot one.

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому

      @@Felisargyle Does it have a tracker pod mounted on the front or a tracker box on the handle bars? If it has a front tracker pod you will need a new ESC and to flash the pre-existing dash. If it has a tracker box you will need a new dash which you will then need to flash.

    • @Felisargyle
      @Felisargyle 5 років тому

      BananaScience it has nothing. So I’m set right?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому

      @@Felisargyle Yup you shouldn't have to do anything then.

  • @ethangurule
    @ethangurule 4 роки тому

    I did this a while back but I recently had to get a new control board for the scooter. Now it’s back to normal and isn’t as quick. Do you know why?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      You likely purchased a clone control board. You will need to purchase an OEM control board for the CFW to affect your speed.

  • @operadores2
    @operadores2 5 років тому +1

    hello why it has to have external battery to use this procedure?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      Hacking the firmware increases the amount of power drawn from the battery. Without an external battery to share the load, this increased current will fry your BMS (battery management circuit)

  • @eliwhipple1854
    @eliwhipple1854 4 роки тому +2

    I can get up to the point where I try to Telnet in via the command line, but thats not working. Any way to figure out if/what address I might use instead of the one you provided?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Eli Whipple can you confirm you’ve enabled telnet on your PC?

    • @eliwhipple1854
      @eliwhipple1854 4 роки тому

      @@BananaScience Yes, telnet is enabled on my PC. Reading through more threads, I am using some knock off dashboard without a capacitor on c15 that others seem to be having an issue with.

    • @eliwhipple1854
      @eliwhipple1854 4 роки тому +1

      My apologies, everything worked fine. I needed to actually be running two CMD windows to do this. I was running the long code, cancelling it like a dummy with Cntrl C and then trying to telnet. Run long code, then open another CMD window and telnet, got it! Working fine, but getting an error 49 and some weird behavior on my working scoot. Getting error 10s on the others.

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      @@eliwhipple1854 Error 10 means you either need to replace or flash your ESC but I'm not sure what error 49 means.

  • @santiomanas5268
    @santiomanas5268 4 роки тому

    hi friend, i need help. I made your tutorial. now battery level does not work, speed meter does not work, can you help me?

  • @zannnewman3147
    @zannnewman3147 5 років тому +3

    This is a great guide and worked perfect but I have 1 problem. Everything works perfect on the ES 2 scooter (the one with just the 1 internal battery) but when I do it with an ES4(has the additional external battery), I can't get the batteries to charge past 75%. Do you have any advice? Thank you for this info

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому

      To confirm, this is after you have flashed the hacked firmware? Is the range affected (only 75% of the range?).

    • @zannnewman3147
      @zannnewman3147 5 років тому +1

      yes

    • @zannnewman3147
      @zannnewman3147 5 років тому

      @@BananaScience ​ @BananaScience Yes, everything works perfect and 100% charge on the ES2's but my es4's will only charge to about 78%. If I take the external battery off I can charge the internal one to 100%. If I have both the internal and external battery installed, I can only get to like 78%. I checked voltage and I don't remember exactly off hand but 78% was not a display error. The voltage was lower than the ES2's showing 100%. I have swapped both internal and external batteries with my other scooters with the same results. I am thinking it's a BMS version problem. My batteries have mismatched versions but I don't know how to change them individually. I don't know if it matters but I also don't have windows 10 for the serial number change. Thank you again for your work

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      Yeah it could be a BMS version issue. You can update the BMS firmware through the ninebot mobile app and then re-flash your hacked firmware afterwards.

    • @zannnewman3147
      @zannnewman3147 5 років тому

      @@BananaScience Excellent, I will try when I get home. I was scared to install what Ninebot called the "master software" version 1.4.1. I didn't know if I could go back to hacked software after I updated or not. Also, do your LED's on the bottom work after the hack flashed install? One of my Es4 work but the other does not. I have researched and from what others say, it has to do with the serial number.

  • @user-si6ut6xp3u
    @user-si6ut6xp3u 3 роки тому

    Спасибо чувак за труды!

  • @MTS_IT
    @MTS_IT 4 роки тому

    hmm... EU version goes up to 30km/h by default... Does the motor get any more torque by flasing? what is the max speed you get out of it?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      You can get improved torque and speed. The newest CFW updates limit you to 22mph while older versions went up to 24.

    • @MTS_IT
      @MTS_IT 4 роки тому

      @@BananaScience ahahahaha... awesome (the part of me not updating it :D)

  • @praiserone
    @praiserone 5 років тому +5

    i am getting error 10 with a a red wrench flashing on and off. do you know how to fix this?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  5 років тому +1

      Is this after flashing custom or stock firmware?

    • @Antassium
      @Antassium 4 роки тому +2

      I got this error when connecting to a newer model without flashing. I'll be trying the firmware update when my ST-Link comes in.

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      Antassium it’s likely because the new BIRD ESCs use proprietary firmware that needs to be reflashed. Check out the scooter hacking forums for instructions on that.

    • @pengoboy
      @pengoboy 4 роки тому +1

      @@BananaScience what if you thought you already flashed it? did the flash just not go through correctly?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Giacomo Ciminello What do you mean? Could you please elaborate a little more? Did you already flash the dash or ESC?

  • @AndresPerez-ux2qk
    @AndresPerez-ux2qk 4 роки тому

    it is possible to connect swd clk and swd io in another part of the board or wire?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      Andres1513 Perez probably but you would need to follow the PCB tracings and find out where.

  • @08kayak21
    @08kayak21 4 роки тому

    I see that you are using the 24 AWG cable. Is it ok to use 28 awg cable and also in the scooter if replacemts needed?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      I would say no as there will be 120w running through it and 26 would be really pushing it.

    • @08kayak21
      @08kayak21 4 роки тому

      @@BananaScience How many AWG should you have on the battery cabels and moderboard cables that connet to the motor?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      @@08kayak21 It should say on the side of the wire itself. I would say 16 would be the thinnest I could recommend but I would check to be sure.

  • @eaglez4242
    @eaglez4242 4 роки тому +2

    Could you ever do this without soldering? If I buy an oem dashboard, it will have the original ninebot software so I could just install the hacked software?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      Yes if you buy an OEM dash but even some that claim to be OEM aren't OEM. (plus it will cost quite a bit more). You can do this without soldering if you have a friend hold two multi meter probes in place and stick the other two power probes into the red and black wires going from the throttle or brake connector.

    • @eaglez4242
      @eaglez4242 4 роки тому

      @redwan TANGER so what I did is I bought a CLONE dash to replace the gps block for my es2 and it for the past 40 miles has worked fantastically. If you want to switch modes from sport you have to buy an OEM control board

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      ​@redwan TANGER Yup but you'll also need to flash the speed controller

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому

      @redwan TANGER Gotta remove the GPS lol

  • @vertvaine
    @vertvaine 4 роки тому

    Does it work with ES2 Lite ? Switzerland one

    • @vertvaine
      @vertvaine 4 роки тому

      ES2 Lite : www.scooterhacking.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=14&p=562&hilit=lite#p562

  • @aintit2586
    @aintit2586 4 роки тому +1

    Is there anyway to set the top speed higher than 35km? Thanks

  • @mrdwil777
    @mrdwil777 4 роки тому +2

    When I go to put the hacked firmware into the Ninebot-flasher app using your steps it says my file is ‘bad’ any advice?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +2

      Use a earlier version of firmware. I think the latest version Ninebot Flasher accepts is 1.3.9. If it's any other version, it will throw an error.

    • @mrdwil777
      @mrdwil777 4 роки тому

      BananaScience Have you heard of when the ES4 gets to 22 mph it quickly applies breaking and goes to 19mph and then cycles doing this?

    • @BananaScience
      @BananaScience  4 роки тому +1

      @@mrdwil777 Yes that is normal. CFW only guarantees stable speeds up to 20mph at the moment and anything above that will have that strange acceleration and declaration issue.

  • @Kacuri-kacebi
    @Kacuri-kacebi 2 роки тому

    I wanted to increase my speed on the scooter
    But after typing the wrong zipp ,Error list up 10 please help me i have a ninebot es4