Dragunov guide by Sephiblack | Tekken 8

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  • @DashFight
    @DashFight  9 місяців тому +42

    Now's the best time to play Dragunov, he's easily one of the best characters in the game, and will likely stay strong even after some patches.

    • @RHCPndRATM
      @RHCPndRATM 9 місяців тому +1

      Will you guys do a Steve Fox guide ?

    • @tobiyolo6825
      @tobiyolo6825 8 місяців тому

      What would be the command for takedowns?

    • @eddiesantana3009
      @eddiesantana3009 8 місяців тому

      He’s so fun to play just started playing him yesterday and his grabs are so good and funny when you know your opponent gets annoyed loo

  • @Lyudo
    @Lyudo 9 місяців тому +91

    I wish people would add command history in the videos. It doesnt take much of the screen and it overall just helps people learn what your showing rather than just listening.

    • @filepo
      @filepo 9 місяців тому +16

      yes, it's such a small thing but so helpful for newer players, they should remake all guides with the input history, without them just make guides harder to catch on

    • @sinofchaos10
      @sinofchaos10 8 місяців тому +10

      I agree so much, I'm a new player trying to learn and the worst ones I have seen are super long videos with no timestamps, no command history, no pictures or anything. Worst of all, they don't even mention the inputs they just did and go "you do this move".

    • @WindrushKrew275
      @WindrushKrew275 7 місяців тому

      after a while of playing you get the hang of it. 1234 (as you may know) correspond to LP RP LK RK respectively. You'll start to see that a move with a certain limb will include that notation. It might include a few directional inputs to trial and error but you'll get it for sure. Although i do agree with you.

    • @hands-ongaming7180
      @hands-ongaming7180 4 місяці тому +1

      Mainsmanswe guides: how about no

    • @bartholomaios5211
      @bartholomaios5211 10 днів тому

      Absolutely, wasnt that the thing in T7.
      They always gave you a Button Layout

  • @xgoldenxchildx
    @xgoldenxchildx 9 місяців тому +25

    I watched a bunch of Dragunov guides and I have to say this is the best. Very clear and easy to understand, easy to follow along, with great reasonings of why some moves are good and why some aren't, frame info and what to look out for. Excellent guide on combos as well detailing each step of the way. All from an expert player with good knowledge. Thank you sir!

    • @Jagger-oe9rb
      @Jagger-oe9rb 9 місяців тому

      its an amazing video I just wish they put the commands somewhere on screen

    • @xgoldenxchildx
      @xgoldenxchildx 9 місяців тому

      @@Jagger-oe9rb He literally does has the commands on screen? Unless you are asking about button graphics, but he uses Tekken notation which is easy to learn

    • @rondobrondo
      @rondobrondo 9 місяців тому

      @@Jagger-oe9rb learn notation scrub

  • @catonthephone
    @catonthephone 7 місяців тому +23

    _Sergei Dragunov_
    *Pokes:*
    2, 1 (df for Sneak and better frame advantage)
    df+1
    df+4
    db+2
    ws+4 or during (partial) Sneak 4
    b+4 (hits grounded)
    b+2
    ws+1 or during (partial) Sneak 1
    *Mix-up/Oki:*
    d+1 (ch guarantees db+3+4)
    b+1+2 (guarantees db+3+4 or d+3+4, qcf+4...)
    qcf+4 or during Sneak 4 (hits grounded)
    d+2 (hits grounded) into fc+1, 4 (delay 4 for power-up) or ws+1, 2, 3 or 4 for mix-up
    b+4, 2, 1 (each can be delayed, full string is hit confirmable on ch, last move on ch guarantees b+4, 3)
    *Pressure:*
    d+1
    b+1+2
    qcf+4 (better tracking than wr+2)
    db+3+4 (launch punishable on block, on ch guarantees d+3+4 or qcf+4)
    d+2
    fc+1, 4 (unsafe on block, on ch guarantees Sneak 1+2 for max. damage and all other Sneak moves except Sneak 1)
    wr+2 (+6 on block but can be sidestepped, fast input for power up, launches on ch)
    *Punishment:*
    10 Frames: 2, 1
    12 Frames: 4, 1 or df+4 for crouched opponents
    13 Frames: 4, 1 or df+1 for crouched opponents
    14 Frames: f+4, 3 or b+4, 3 (heat engager)
    15 Frames: df+2 (launcher use up close) or uf+1 (long range knockout guarantees qcf+4 or qcf+1+2)
    17 Frames: f+1+2 (guarantees qcf+4)
    18 Frames: qcf+1 (requires perfect input but higher damage than df+2 recommended on 20 frames)
    20 Frames: f+3, 1+2 (if the opponent is far away)
    *Crouched Punishment:*
    10 Frames: 1
    11 Frames: ws+4
    12 Frames: ws+1, 2 (for frame advantage and wall splat) ws+1, 3 or ws+1+2 (for better damage)
    15 Frames: ws+2 or uf+1 (for long range punish)
    *Heat:*
    1, 2, 1 (last hit unsafe, full string on ch, heat dash guarantees b+1+2)
    b+4, 3 (heat dash launches)
    f+3, 1+2 (long range, heat dash launches)
    qcf+4 (heat dash launches)
    Crouch grab (b+1+3 or b+2+4)
    Heat Smash: 1+3 (+6 on block)
    *While in Heat:*
    *Tackle becomes unbreakable consuming a portion of heat, but follow-ups can be broken
    *New moves are available:
    fc+1, 1+2
    wr+2, 1+2
    b+4, 2, 1+2
    ff+2, 1+2
    Heat Smash (on block) into unbreakle tackle (during Heat 1+3 [on block] into db+1+2)
    *Launchers:*
    df+2 (-12 on block)
    qcf+1 (-3 on block, but duckable)
    3+4 (-13 on block)
    db+3 (launch punisable on block)
    qcb+2 (launch punisable on block)
    ws+2 (-12 on block)
    uf+1 (long range knockout guarantees qcf+4 or qcf+1+2)
    f+1+2 (guarantees qcf+4)
    b+1+2 (guarantees qcf+4)
    uf+4 (guarantees qcf+4)
    *Counter Hit Launchers:*
    wr+2
    db+2, 1, *2*
    df+1, *4*
    ub+2 (front of the opponent)
    *Offense/Defense:*
    wr+2
    qcf+4
    db+3+4
    d+2
    2, 1 or 4, 1 into d+2 or d+1 trades with a dick jab if the opponent tries it.
    2, 1 into Sneak cancel into d+2 for punishing an attempted dick jab (input must be perfect for this)
    2, 1 into any Sneak move will beat mashing opponents except if they are crouching on Sneak 1
    b+2 to crush highs
    qcb+2 is an evasive launcher
    qcf+1 or 2 for whiff punishes
    Dragunov's Grab mix-up
    *Combos:*
    df+2, 4, 4, fc+1, 4, Sneak 2, dash, 3, 1~df Sneak 2 (60 Damage, with power-up 61)
    ws+2, 4, 4, fc+1, 4, Sneak 2, dash, 3, 1~df Sneak 2 (61 Damage, with power-up 62)
    qcf+2 4, 4, fc+1, 4, Sneak 2, dash, 3, 1~df Sneak 2 (71 Damage, with power-up 72)
    last hit of 1, 3, 2 4, 4, fc+1, 4, Sneak 2, dash, 3, 1~df Sneak 2 (66 Damage, with power-up 67)

  • @brandonharwell95
    @brandonharwell95 4 місяці тому

    Im gonna study this guide completely. Dragunov has been one of my 2 favorite characters in Tekken since he debuted

  • @unchartedrocks1
    @unchartedrocks1 9 місяців тому +3

    15:50 had no idea u can go into the tackle after the heat smash. I’ll remember that to catch opponents off guard.

    • @slyfoxfan0799
      @slyfoxfan0799 9 місяців тому +1

      make sure to use B4,2,1 too it's probabably the safest option if they don't use armor moves after the heat smash.

  • @TheOneTaboo
    @TheOneTaboo 9 місяців тому +2

    The way you just casually broke down everything, taking your time, but made it simple to understand whilst not rushing.
    I have bee looking for guides, this is amazing quality, I am going to stay here and hope you make more about other characters that I am interested in!
    Thank you!

  • @Agent_TGC
    @Agent_TGC 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for covering his defensive options!

  • @AnnoyingEdu
    @AnnoyingEdu 9 місяців тому +10

    Looking into Dragunov now and you're video seems like a good entry point :) Thanks for that! One important thing though: It's super hard to (acoustically) understand your input descriptions sometimes. I'm pretty new to Tekken and a lot of words just merge into another, especially if you talk a little faster. An on-screen input visualization would help a lot, especially for the bread and butter moves.

  • @_AJTV_
    @_AJTV_ 9 місяців тому +2

    hello , 24:44 is not FC d1+2 but FC d2+4 for the grab !

  • @UnhealthyRogue
    @UnhealthyRogue 9 місяців тому +7

    Whats up with the creators of this game not showing their input history?

  • @sherlockhomes9919
    @sherlockhomes9919 8 місяців тому

    Sephiblack has YT channel? This guide was very easy to watch. Good analysis and breakdown. He should do more character tutorials.

  • @HenryC289
    @HenryC289 9 місяців тому +1

    Great breakdown! Thanks!!!

  • @VDViktor
    @VDViktor 9 місяців тому +1

    Sephiblack is such a nice guy

  • @guyguy7002
    @guyguy7002 9 місяців тому +4

    Feng Wei or Kazuya guide next!!

    • @xjwr385
      @xjwr385 9 місяців тому

      yes or steve plz

  • @blue7340
    @blue7340 18 днів тому

    nice video!, abit hard to keep up because there isn't a history or button display on the video though

  • @vapersmith7859
    @vapersmith7859 4 місяці тому

    Adding Dragunov to the roster to complete the Russians (Alisa is already there and is my best character right now in terms of both rank and winrate) I am currently struggling to get the Dragunov I have off the ground despite the fact I KNOW he's insanely strong it turns out he requires more technique than I previously thought to play well.
    I do know one thing it will be a BIG deal when I nail him since he was an absolute terror in early Tekken and nobody could beat that Dragunov player vs the Smash bros audience so that gives me a metric of his significance.

  • @deninsonriquelme4402
    @deninsonriquelme4402 6 місяців тому

    Excelente, muy completo 👍 gracias , aplicare algunas cosas !!

  • @kokoseq2
    @kokoseq2 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video, thank you!

  • @haschwalthall
    @haschwalthall 4 місяці тому

    Nice vid thx helps alot

  • @Max-ns1cd
    @Max-ns1cd 9 місяців тому +3

    Can you please find a Person who plays Jun. I would love to learn her.

  • @TheTorrence11
    @TheTorrence11 8 місяців тому

    amazing guide ty

  • @admiralisshobattousai2806
    @admiralisshobattousai2806 9 місяців тому

    Thank you for guide!

  • @albertosala6799
    @albertosala6799 9 місяців тому +4

    Can somebody help me with Dragunov’s trap/ set up?
    I found out those :
    Qcf1 on block ss df2
    D2 fc14 / D2 ss df2
    B421 on block 121
    D1 on block 121

    • @stevenwiegand2611
      @stevenwiegand2611 7 місяців тому

      U have to try out uf3 on block qcb2 thank me later :P

  • @draj9366
    @draj9366 8 місяців тому

    Amazing tutorial, but I hope to link on the screen the commands or the moves that you're explaining

  • @doc.cynical8852
    @doc.cynical8852 9 місяців тому +2

    i wanna learn but there are some commands that is hard to understand like in 6:47 can you put like the commands if its okay?

    • @iffo16_
      @iffo16_ 9 місяців тому

      Its full crouch df 1,4. You get blue spark is you press 4 at the exact moment 1 hits

    • @doc.cynical8852
      @doc.cynical8852 9 місяців тому

      thank man!!!@@iffo16_

  • @aidenneke1135
    @aidenneke1135 7 місяців тому

    Thanks black

  • @Ikalian
    @Ikalian 9 місяців тому

    I was curious whom you will choose when Miguel is out. Hope in season 2 I will be able to check your guides for our sPain guy. Cheers

  • @scrambled0714
    @scrambled0714 8 місяців тому +1

    People in ruler rank dont get pressured, they just mash a lot

  • @skwadboss
    @skwadboss 9 місяців тому +1

    raaiii runnning tooo 😃😄

  • @candrawibawa8115
    @candrawibawa8115 9 місяців тому +2

    Please add subtitles to the moves the guide says
    I barely hear what he says like 'quad c 4 4' ? And so on

  • @yurotk
    @yurotk 9 місяців тому +1

    hearing sephi say his main isn't there anymore almost broke my heart 😭

    • @DashFight
      @DashFight  9 місяців тому

      Gotta believe in Miguel, he's too cool not to make it back 💪

  • @cybajohnsan8351
    @cybajohnsan8351 8 місяців тому

    could u show the inputs , becaus im new in this game and i dont know what u mean with 1 2 3

    • @nathanheath4497
      @nathanheath4497 8 місяців тому +1

      1 would be left punch 2 would be right punch 3 is left kick and 4 is right kick

    • @cybajohnsan8351
      @cybajohnsan8351 8 місяців тому

      Thx

  • @dwoo4478
    @dwoo4478 8 місяців тому

    How to do that standing 4 while doing his snake dash? 4:30

  • @Rick-pg6rh
    @Rick-pg6rh 9 місяців тому

    Becareful with 4,1 if you're finger tapping crazy because double tapping 4 can leave you open haha

  • @Sharpscore247
    @Sharpscore247 9 місяців тому +1

    I will say the combo section of this video is a bit lacking, especially because it leaves out df3+4 with is essential for getting nearly 20 more damage in most combos that this video showcases, even in the more simple combos this move is uses, also for anyone lacking in execution, WS 1, df transitions into sneak in the same way FCdf1,4 does, so you can use that instead, and it deals similar damage, and makes the dash after the screw a little easier

    • @deadlyfear13
      @deadlyfear13 9 місяців тому

      hey can you recommend me a combo with df3+4 ?

    • @Sharpscore247
      @Sharpscore247 9 місяців тому

      Before most enders you can sneak in a df3+4 for about 10 extra damage. Example
      Qcf2, df3+4, 4,4, WS2,df SNK2, dash, df3+4, 3,1,df SNK1+2

  • @Alfred_the_doodler
    @Alfred_the_doodler 9 місяців тому

    Question to the fellow dragunov players.
    Can drag do his ambush tackle, raw?
    Or is it only possible after the roll and certain attacks?

    • @BigPapaSquid
      @BigPapaSquid 9 місяців тому +2

      You can only do it raw if your knocked down back facing up other then that you need an input before hand to do ambush tackle

    • @Alfred_the_doodler
      @Alfred_the_doodler 9 місяців тому

      @@BigPapaSquid ah ok thanks!

  • @xelic1996
    @xelic1996 9 місяців тому

    The only thing in this guide I don't like is the combos at the end definitely aren't max damage for those launchers.

  • @extremtarz
    @extremtarz 7 місяців тому +1

    I want to ask you a question, which audience is watching your videos? Isn't it people who want to learn the game? So why can't we see which keys you press anywhere in the video, what's the point of what you say?

  • @dankazachievements460
    @dankazachievements460 9 місяців тому +1

    We want Jun!! 🥹

  • @roidesnoirs_officiel
    @roidesnoirs_officiel 9 місяців тому

    Hello, has WR2 been nerfed ? i can only do 20dmg with it and demo doesn't do any better

    • @Garverlol
      @Garverlol 9 місяців тому

      u doing it wrong with 20dmg its 25dmg without perfect input with perfect input i guess its 30 or 35 dmg tab 3 times -> -> -> and with last forward press 2

    • @roidesnoirs_officiel
      @roidesnoirs_officiel 9 місяців тому

      @@Garverlol OK but demo play does 20 damage too..

  • @HuanLingaming1996
    @HuanLingaming1996 2 місяці тому

    what does SNK mean guys???

  • @farmer4525
    @farmer4525 9 місяців тому +3

    What input is the full crouch throw? Nobody ever mentions the input when they talk about it

    • @alphaamigo9688
      @alphaamigo9688 9 місяців тому

      Drag doesn't have a throw out of full crouch, so I'm gonna assume you mean the crouch throw that will hit crouching opponents, or opponents forced into a crouch after ff4 or CH4,3. The input is just d + your generic throw input (1+3 or 2+4).

    • @zzarGrazz
      @zzarGrazz 9 місяців тому

      @@alphaamigo9688fc 1 db1+2 in heat is what op is looking for. You can do ultimate tackle but only in heat

    • @alphaamigo9688
      @alphaamigo9688 9 місяців тому

      @@zzarGrazz oh that. That's actually fc DF1, 1+2. You don't need the db for the tackle.

    • @zzarGrazz
      @zzarGrazz 9 місяців тому

      @@alphaamigo9688 both should work, I hold db as legacy 😂😂

  • @tizianomerello6530
    @tizianomerello6530 9 місяців тому

    After qcf 1 what combo you suggest!;)

    • @thondush
      @thondush 9 місяців тому +1

      sidestep left qcf 3+4 44 fc14 snk2 and then the ender of preference (I believe 3,2 snk 2 works)

    • @Sharpscore247
      @Sharpscore247 9 місяців тому +1

      df3+4 , b1,2 , dash forward, df3+4 , 3,1, SNK 1+2 is an easier alternative with similar damage

    • @Sharpscore247
      @Sharpscore247 9 місяців тому +1

      also you can sub 2,1, df, 1+2 instead of the 3,1 ender if you want

  • @void.defender
    @void.defender 9 місяців тому

    Him being a Drag player?!

  • @mrdeath7187
    @mrdeath7187 9 місяців тому

    Steve fox next pls

  • @tristan5951
    @tristan5951 9 місяців тому

    How did you do ws out of sneak ????????

    • @SlimyKunai
      @SlimyKunai 9 місяців тому

      12 while on ground

    • @tristan5951
      @tristan5951 9 місяців тому

      That makes no sense

  • @W_smith1990
    @W_smith1990 9 місяців тому

    Jin next please

    • @thondush
      @thondush 9 місяців тому +4

      d2, f4, d4, electric, 214, 123, ff2, throws, ws2 or hopkick and sometimes you might want to do a hellsweep.

  • @Vahaldu
    @Vahaldu 8 місяців тому

  • @tinydeskengineer7456
    @tinydeskengineer7456 9 місяців тому

    What does SNK mean?

    • @DashFight
      @DashFight  9 місяців тому

      It's short for Sneak, the stance where Dragunov sort of lurches forward.

  • @emersonibisate
    @emersonibisate 9 місяців тому

    i like dragunov it has very high crit damge same with feng wei, silent but deadly some player called it

  • @Oolong-Dong
    @Oolong-Dong 9 місяців тому +2

    RIP Miguel. You were only loved by 1 man -> Sephiblack

  • @ZiyaB3ast
    @ZiyaB3ast 9 місяців тому

    4:25 how do you do WS4 from snake dash? I tried qcf neutral 4 and still am getting qcf4

    • @cloud7475
      @cloud7475 9 місяців тому +2

      Don't input the the forward only do ⬇️↘️ 4

    • @ZiyaB3ast
      @ZiyaB3ast 9 місяців тому

      @@cloud7475 thanks

  • @Garverlol
    @Garverlol 8 місяців тому +1

    imo almost all of sephiblacks combos are very low dmg

  • @koray.45
    @koray.45 4 місяці тому

    Bist du deutsch

  • @DiZzYrEvO
    @DiZzYrEvO 9 місяців тому

    good guide except for the fact when he explains notations he breezes and mumbles over it.

  • @saeno7258
    @saeno7258 9 місяців тому +4

    Sorry to say, but this guide is simply not good. Not to say it's not containing valuable information, but it's just badly structured, harder to follow than it needs to be because of the obvious language barrier, and missing something that is vital for beginners: notations on the screen to know what moves are currently being talked about.
    I know my notations so I can mostly follow along, but it still would be a lot easier with on screen notations. Some moves are not talked about in detail, and I don't know the input by itself, so I'm SOL.
    Props to Sephi for giving his insights in the first place, but from a consumer perspective, this ain't it chief.
    Hope you're taking this as the constructive criticism it is meant to be, instead of me just hatin.

    • @simonzhang3D
      @simonzhang3D 22 дні тому

      all dashfightt gudies are shit ngl

  • @quang5DCameras
    @quang5DCameras 9 місяців тому

    After 10 years and you only Played and had 1 Main character?? Hello?? You Need to Move on with Miguel man. It's time to wake up and have 3 Main at least to compete with the big boys such Knee, Arslan Ash, etc.

    • @aaronroberts1901
      @aaronroberts1901 9 місяців тому +3

      Kind of a bad take, he obviously played other characters but only play that one in competitive play like how Anakin only plays Jack and is easily the best US player versing in Grand finals agasint knee, arslan etc. Sephiblack has came 1st in quit a lot of Tournaments

    • @quang5DCameras
      @quang5DCameras 9 місяців тому

      @@aaronroberts1901 Yeah I know to me both have that Narrow Mindset during Tournament even when they Lose. That Anakin he's always use Anakin in tournament. I'm not a fan of his style either. So Boring to watch him after a while. I'm NOT saying they suck, but just prefer watching players that can use and play many different characters such as Knee, LowHigh, Arslan instead. I prefer watching Korean, Japanese and Pakistan players.

  • @drdoommm1746
    @drdoommm1746 2 місяці тому

    Dragunov is so easy omg
    How do you bums manage to be below tg rank is beyond me