2017 Honda CBR1000RR And CBR1000RR SP Review
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- At long last we finally get to ride the all-new, 2017 Honda CBR1000RR and CBR1000RR SP. Not only that, but Honda chose to debut the literbike at the demanding Portimao racetrack in Portugal. Honda completely revamped the bike, shedding weight everywhere it could while upping power a modest amount.
The result? Let Motorcycle.com's Troy Siahaan tell you. He got to pilot Honda's new flagship sportbike, while battling a cold, where he delivers his first ride impressions - without a voice!
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have a cbr1000rr that's a few years old - without question, the best bike I've ever ridden... absolutely mind blowing how good it is. Engineering is first class.
That’s good to hear. What year?
People with the power complaint, keep on mind Honda operates mainly with one main philosophy.
SMOOTH POWER DELIVERY AND BALANCE.
Smooth allows very predictable power and when you're midcorner, an unpredictable jump in power causes hectic cornering results.
It has been created to be slung around corners with a completely smooth delivery of power allowing its exit speed to make up for its slight power lack.
Consistency is key to building speed. I'll take the slightly less powerful bike, with a great power delivery, over a less predictable more powerful bike.
yup. i rather live, true story.
Jordan Joestar where the fun in that ! I want a bike that can wheelie on power alone through 1, 2 ,3
@@doncappo1509 fun is had in the corners. My friends on 1000s can never keep up to my 600 in the twisties. I carry lessw mechanical weight and can push 5-10mph faster than them around the bends. I can still do a power wheelie up through second, but my dirtbike can do it all the way up to 4th. Sportbikes aren't designed for only wheelies. Real riders know true mechanical prowess is found in the corners.
@@jordanjoestar8839 sure but that short gain in the corners diminishes in the straights. Same can be said about a 400CC bike compared to your 600
@@ronjose51 depends on the track. I mainly ride on the street so pushing either past 120mph is a suicide bargain on local roads.
Now I ride a Yamaha Vmax because my girl is always on the back, and its still a 10 second bike lol. Much more comfortable and it sounds like a cammed V8 rather than a weed wacker. Not as good in the corners but still a damn hoot with 140hp.
I like Honda's liter bike direction: better handling and reducing weight. Making it as light as a 600. Every liter bike out there have plenty of HP for us mortals.
Wot48 I don't ... had it been Ducati weight I would have liked it, but for around 17-20lbs lighter than the competition... it's cheaper and easier to lose that weight.
16k grand for a no ABS bike is crazy. Unless this thing pitches out insane lap times nobody will even look at the RR once they price check
Who uses abs and traction control anyway, its a pure bike and all about the riding experience
@@Texarmageddon there is 2017 non sp models brand new for 9999
convex at the time of my comment you weren’t finding the bike that low... coming in at 9,999 that tells you how bad the bike is selling
How do you pronounce liter? Lighter or Liiter?
The prettiest bike ever. I didn't bought mine to go fast, i just love the looks of the super sports.
"Flawed" is a big word to describe the problem. I think only those who care about wheelies care about how abrupt the intervention of the IMU is. I think it is still a great bike considering the jump in everything from the old model.
Thank you guys for the great review.
So basically, they just took the old blade and lightened the weight up, added a little hp and slapped on some electronic rider aides on it. Imo, the weight reduction is the best upgrade on it.
CycleCruza
Seems like it. They've always had a good chassis but this update is a bit... disappointing, I guess.
CycleCruza cmon man it's looks way better now
Imo, the only thing that looks strikingly different are the headlights. However, the old blade is great so I don't blame them for just improving it, especially since superbikes are not big sellers anymore. Streetfighters are trending now.
Just coming in to say CycleCruza is a bitch who doesn't know shit about shit.
SirBoostAl0t yeah stopped listening to cyclecruzas terrible opinions years ago lol
Weight is the enemy on the street. Year ago I purchased a brand new 1976 Triumph T140V Bonneville 750. I raced every motorcycle on the streets of Long Island in N.Y. She won every race for 10 consecutive years. She never ever allowed a street racer but a wheel in front of her, if that even started to happen it was a couple of downshifts and wide open throttle. My Bonneville came from the factory with a 4130 chrome-molly frame and weighed in at 395 lbs wet. I ended up removing the seat, and the heavy mufflers and got the weight down to around 365 lbs. The only other mod was to put on drag bars. She never lost. Stock motor, stock Dunlap K70H tires, I did removed the blinkers.
Then I took her out again in 1992 she was 16 years old and kind of c;lapped out. She still won every race. Yes there was that 1992 Kawasaki Ninja 1100 cc fuel injected bike that made me cry on a long long straight section because the Kaw was doing 179 mph as admitted by the loser later on. He was wearing full track leathers. So he was a serious dude. I never gave up and caught the Kaw as it had to slow down from 179mph for an exit turn. I caught the Kaw in mid turn and passed it. The race was on for a moving 1/4 mile and I beat that SOB to the hair pin turn and he almost T-Boned me mid chassis. We raced 100 yards to the parking lot I got there first and he still kept trying and we were on coal slag and gravel which would rip our flesh off. I obliged him and beat him to the front door. I parked, pulled out the key and dismounted just as he pulled up. The onlookers only saw the last 3 sections but they all agreed I had won.
Funny, but we were not suposed to race that night as I had just installed a torn rocker cover gasket which was now leaking oil all over the right side of my rear tire. Long Island is about 10 miles wide. We were supposed to have a night time ride from a Hamburger Joint Named Nediks in Commack located on the North shore in Suffolk County Long Island and ride to the O.B.I South a Bar located over the Robert Moses Bridge near Fire Island on the South shore of Long Island but that dick head had to pass me. My Bonneville would not let that stand. Yes on the 10 mile long straight I was actually crying (but kept ducking my head /helmet under the wind with my chin on the gas cap and then looking side way's at the white pebbles flashing by in the road surface to see if I was going straight without actually looking at the road ahead of me. I was completely out of the wind. On that 10 mile long straight section the Kaw was so far ahead it was only a speck. My T140V had never been headed or beaten and she insisted that I keep the throttle wide open (closing it every 30 second or so so as to suck up some much needed oil to the head as per my owners manual) and told me she would catch him in the get off turn which she did, she kept her promise. The rest was of the race was all her's. She beat that 1992 Kawasaki Ninja 1100cc Fi and we had many witnesses. Light weight and handling is the key to victory on the streets. My Triumph never blew up while beating every road race bike on the road, name it she beat it, Honda 1992 V4 1000cc Interceptor, 1975 Norton 850 Commando, a 1979 Laverda SF750C, she never lost. I still have my Triumph from 1976 and she sits' around 20 feet from me as I tell you all this.
I like this new Honda, really I do but I am sure 430 pounds is too heavy for me. I would be better off with the 2017 Triumph 675 R which weighs only 368 pounds ready to go. Handling and light weight wins over horse power, especially on the street. I'm in Tennessee now and the roads around me are all narrow back roads. I'm pretty sure my old Bonneville could still win against anyone on anything. But I no longer race. I'm 67 years old and most of my riding is on my 2015 Harley-Davidson FLHP Road King Police and I usually go along at an average of 25 mph on the back roads and breath in the fresh air and take in the sun shine and view. I am thankful for my life.
I hope everyone has a great riding season this year and next.
What a fair and honest review. 5 stars.
The SP weighs as much as the STD version because the semi-active suspension is a lot heavier than the regular forks on the regular Blade. To offset the extra weight Honda used a ton of titanium parts in every component ranging from engine to the fairing bolts to be comparable with the standard bike's weight.
Nice review. I like it when the presenter is honest and not too scripted.
the camera swivels to a leveled with horizon view during cockpit scenes. thats cool
I got one, its sooooooo Beautiful
bowwave paul any issues in the last year?
i want that venom helmet....
425lbs wet? That's impressive!
even with your voice down, u have done a marvelous job... thanks for the review
I bought an SP1 to do track days, the electronics are tied into the standard tyre size and gearing. You cannot buy tyres suitable for circuits in the 190 50 profile, if you put anything else on the bike doesn’t work properly. I’ve contacted Honda who agree I will get a problem if I switch tyre sizes and told me to go back to the OE tyres. If you ride on the road and are happy with the OE tyres the bike is great, if you go on circuits buy something else.
Love that RPHA 11 Venom helmet! Incredible build quality for an HJC, and such a small and light shell! I'm buying one, but holding out for a Star Wars one or just the regular model for $200 less. Nice Fireblade too.
I can't wait to see the matte black and red in a review. I'm also very excited for that 2017 gsxr 1000 launch
That slick helmet though.
Well I respect this guy b/c he's being honest.
Let's talk about the real star of this video: Where did you get the Venom helmet? I need that on my head, for safety reasons.
Mas dari Medan, Indonesia ya? Makasih, well done review bro...
Very nice review!
Great vid luv the drone shots. I wonder what gyroscope cam mount was used on mcguinness bike?
Horas, lae Siahaan! Great bikes, nice review btw. 😀
Great review, short, sweet and informative
Thank you for the honest and thorough review. 👍
Get well buddy.
great video and review!!!
Why do everyoen seem to hate Honda? The CBR1000 RR is very beautiful and also by the Car community, everyone is bitching Honda especially the new NSX. Honda will dominate
Did you check the price?
Which one?
Any of them. Then compare it to the other Japanese models.
Lifted_Above Kawas have Honda by the nads in WSBK.
Ducati Drew Since when honda cares about WSBK?
Damn, that thing's nearly the same weight as my 2013 ZX-6R! With 60 more HP! Should be really quick...
Dang Troy.... you've gotta drink plenty of warm squeezed lemon to get your voice back! LOL ... good review as always :D
I cannot wait for the CB1000R. Hope its a light weight bike too
It's been out 9 years with zero changes. Is Honda going to do anything? Granted Yamaha had their FZ1 out for 10 years before the FZ-10, but it was already a more potent engine than the Honda. I had one tuned to 150 rwhp.
I had some litter bikes, gsxr, zx, yzf, and bro let me tell ya, its better been riding than fixing, cbrs are bullet proof, remember what brand is motogp champ last year and 2017 as well.
When it comes to Honda, stability n torque cannot be compared to any other bike. Honda is Honda))
Mark Concessio there are to many douche bags comparing it with the r1. Yamaha cant hold a candle to Honda
jigrodrigues cbr sucks, r1 way better
Markus HmW R1 SUCK CBR MUCH MORE BETTER
DARREN TILL how?
@@Vziera dont come here and complain if your an R1 fanboy. dont watch it your a HATER.
Motorcycle.com Troy Siahaan bisa Bhs. Indonesia ya?
Troy siahaan "Siahaan" is a bataknese family name from indonesia, He is Indonesian?
Yes.
THE FIREBLADE SP MUST BE A DESIG MORE DIFERENT AGAINS TO RR , BUT , I LOVE IT !!!!!
SICK HELMET!
The soundtrack is amazing☆
dude you have an AWSOME helmet man!!!!
Honda's back baby! Now for the cbr250rr (cbr350rr usa) to be released and my life will be complete!
Taijean Moodie They're both parallel twins. Basically a R3 but better. Nothing exciting.
Brian LO It's light weight, has power modes and a runed exhaust note why not?! I don't want a heavy ass bike the 600cc bikes just don't make any sense anymore for the streets. Watch cyclecruza video he will explain why and it makes sense.
Great & honest review.
the new headlight shares the same design language with new VFR800F...
please check it out to see that --
it is not about other bike makers.
wow 425lbs wet is very very light..👍
It is. However, you're paying for it... it's pretty spendy. My 2006 GSX-R 1000 weighed that, though. No doubt that it's lighter than many of the other bikes, but for $10K+ more you'd want it to be.
Well.. Your old gixxer may have the same weight (the german 2006-model however was 7kg heavier than the new blade; the 2007 gixxer was already 19kg heavier), but it has less power and less electronics that make all that power really useable. On paper, the gixxer may be nearly as fast as the new CBR (or any new supersport). On the road, when average Joe is riding it, the new Fireblade will be a lot faster than the gixxer (or any other supersport from that time).
Sorry, I didn't mean to argue that point. I'm well versed in modern bikes versus older ones in terms of ridability.
I never had a bike over 400 lbs so this is heavy to me but for a 1000 it's light.
BFD15i No, it won't. The average joe won't even be faster on a Superbike than on a sports tourer, Especially on the road. Because it may be 2 seconds faster on a track ridden by a pro, it does not translate to the Country roads. Even though i ride streetfighters, i would prefer a K5 to any newer Supersport. The K5 doesn't need any electronics, its far from heavy, the seating position is far less tiring, and the suspension is perfect for german roads, At least in West-Germany! ;-)
RIP Nicky
Michael Fuchs was that her bike?
Philip Trotman nicky hayden was a man. Rip
Great video. But stop with the music during the talking. Its annoying, I want to hear what the rider has to say
name siahaan is one of clan in Indonesian. are you from Indonesia?
Love the helmet 👍👍
bang siahaan?????
I want that Venom helmet he is wearing in the Video Thumbnail....
Let the competition among those manufacturer benefits us so that they produce and research for a better and better one , go ahead Honda vs Yamaha vs Kawasaki vs ducati vs Suzuki :)
It sounds a little bit like an appliance going around the track. Compared to a R1, RSV4, or even a ZX-10R it's lacking pizazz. Yet it cost a PILE.
Nice but I can't wait to get the Gixxer's review and an actual full review of the Fireblade which includes lap times, and all that but I'd like to see fuel economy added just to see which of the Super Sports can go the long distance. I think that would be something different compared to the usual reviews and comparos.
The best looking Honda since the VTR SP1
I'm pretty sure if the wheelie control is that big of a flaw Honda can tune the programming to fix it with a firmware update.
what helmet is that that Troy is wearing? it looks like Venom from Spider man which is awesome!
oh its the RPHA 11 Pro from HJC awesome
Troy why were you not in the 2017 shootout ? They all picked the honda what would your top three have been ?
I want that venom helmet
Very good about the weight thank you
This bike weighs the same as my gsxr 600. I can only imagine how fast a literbike is at that weight.
This is a huge deal. How'd did Honda let this issue with electronic intervention happen? Is it that big of an issue, or just something that needed to be brought up in a launch vid??
No issue at all
Amazing Work!
siahaan, batak ya om troy.
Good. But still waiting for that Suzuki Gixxer.
Oh you mean that Suzuki Hyosung??/ Because the new Gixxer looks just like a Hyosung GT650R... Honestly, there hasn't been a good looking Gixxer since 08
You could put good plastic on a tree stump. Who cares. I'm looking to see what sort of mechanical package they've produced.
Lifted_Above I do too. #Like
Euric Dinkins still will be among the top 3 fastest street bikes out there. and that comes from someone who has for over 17yrs yamahas
i said street bike not track bike now dont go track this track that on me now wont ya
Gixxer its gonna kill it. More power, more torque due VVT, whole new bike and engine, same weight. I like hondas, but this one seems to be a lighter and upgraded version with electronics, not the new bike (and engine) honda fans where waiting for.
why did they discontinue the undersea exhaust, the side exhaust is not very sporty...
Siahaan, Indonesian huh?
fantastic job done by honda.. i really impressed by Honda.. honda engineering is excellent.. perhaps i like the previous model's front better than this one
Cool bike but I don't like its silhouette! I hope when I see one in person it'll look better
I very very Love CBR
I had a CBR600 a few years ago is Honda still the best brand?
They're both Ok I guess...
Still, the ZX -1000R BLASTS THEM AWAY in terms of *design*.
Taste differs. ;) And that is a good thing. Wouldn't it be miserable when everyone would drive the same Bike?!!! ^^
The new Kawasaki bikes are actually the most well designed bikes that exist and *they are far better than they looked in previous years.*
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I love Honda but. Aprilia has grown on me. RSV4 has to be my next bike.
Ruano09 you must go for the bmw then, rsv4 isn't as agile as the new fireblade ,homdas are more flickeable, more stable amd lighter, plus riding a honda then going for a vike with a lil bit a jerky throttle throttle is a bit chaotic. If you want flickering and agility s1000 is almost equal to this machine.
i really wish you guys had like....lap times...
or 0-60.... brake distance.... cornering G force....
all this review does is vomit back up the marketing wank papers that honda gave you....
give us some some real world numbers.......saying "the new engine is a monster over the old one" doesnt mean JACK SHIT
"engine power has DIFINATLY increased"
BY HOW FUCKING MUCH!!!!
could the bike have the same hp, but just be lighter?
we have no way of knowing......
their no real info here.....
"it has wheelie control"
cool, thanks, totally could not read hondas website and the feature list their.....
So Kain, lets suppose Honda offers to fly you to Portugal, or where ever their next launch is, and lets you rip around the track on their new super bike? But they didn't bother to bring a dyno and TSA wouldn't let you haul one in your carry on luggage because it weighs about a ton and won't fit in the overhead compartment. The other journalists get all touchy when you try to come to a dead stop on the front straight and pull out your measuring tape to figure how long it took to stop from 60 mph and you have no one to hold that radar gun you brought along to confirm when you going 60 mph for your brake test - can't trust a speedo for 100% accuracy ya know. How would you acquire those hard numbers? I suppose you could get your lap times using a smart phone app but then without you having another brand of superbike with the same tires bike to compare your laptime to, said lap time is not going to tell us a whole lot other then how fast or slow Kain can circle Portimao. I guess you could also carry along a GPS data acquisition pack and ask Honda if they wouldn't mind you strapping it on the pillion of the CBR but then again with no competitors bikes to compare the G-force numbers to, those cornering G-force numbers won't tell us a whole lot. However, you could let John McGuinness ride the bike with the data acquisition unit and compare your performance to his if you want to give your audience some hard numbers to compare. My point is, it's a manufacturer sponsored and controlled bike launch. Bike launches are traditionally used for getting riding impressions, photos, and videos of a bike. Stateside shootouts are better suited for "some real world numbers".
Where can I get that helmet 😵?👌🏾
As usual it's the "can't tell if it's better than the competition". When is a maker going to release something that changes the game again? Infact when is Honda going to do more than a face lift on this?
First 4 mins, i thought this guy is talking while riding at such speeds and wondered how could somebody talk in such a relaxed manner while riding this way. Then realized he's just dubbing.
Love the bike and the helmet
"Diet plan"? what do you mean ?
get better soon😀
Hate the background music choice.
Would rather prefer no music than such rock/metal music.
Good video though.
So Troy finally hit puberty and finally broke his voice ai?! hahaha
Siahaan? clan from indonesia (medan) north sumatra?
GSXR1000R THE KING IS BACK
It is not king bro. Cbr is real king because 2017 cbr fireblade is even quicker than 2017 s1000rr and aprilia rsv4
pratheec kolli you wish
Markus HmW I think u wish
My only complaint is the front end reminds me of the cbr 300r
In my opinion Honda's sport bikes always look timeless. Some other manufacturers look cool, but can get old. The only exception for me is the CBR1000RR-R which looks horrible. That being said, it's not about looks in this segment, it's about results (and sales).
6:40 SP version looks taller
Still choosing the Ninja ZX10
How about the dimension? Is it smaller than previous model?
road friendly or not?
I just purchase 2017 cbr 1000rr I ride it I love it. I need advice should I lower my bike and how low can I go with out screwing up the handling. I am 5'3" rider.
Sinh Nguyen I’m 5’4. Learn to ride it how it is. Lowering it will just throw off the experience
I'm a Honda fan, but after waiting for a new model since the bug in 2008, this just doesn't do $hit for me. Gixxer or Kawi here I come
Think I'll stick to my 15 model! Not really feeling the looks....
Dennis van damme The rear & tank are legit.
Front of the bike & side fairings are definitely lackluster "could grow on me but I doubt it".
I've always been a Honda guy but see no reason to upgrade.
This machine seems like an utter snooze fest compared to what Yamaha came out with in 2015. The R1 was a big leap forward, this CBR clearly shows Honda is once again playing it safe.
big leap forward where? It still gets its ass handed to it in Superstock 1000 and WSBK by a 2008 Fireblade for crying out loud.
cagednm69 Still loving my Aprilias though....
LOL the R1's throttle control is the worst on the street and track not to mention it's power band is so damn short it makes the Yz125 look awesome...LMFAO@ Rob the R1 has lost in MOTOgp for the last 2 years to Honda and Honda had no Electronic help like the Yamaha did...LOL get the facts before you post please
So is the SP only track? Or the beefier version?
that venom 😍
hey is a ok bike for a beginner?
Why aren't they uses carbon frame?
really love this bike♡♡♡
are you indonesian?