An honest review from someone who knows what they are talking about and has actually formed an opinion, rather than regurgitating sales banter. Great work !
Great vid, as usual. Can't see why this channel doesn't have more subscribers. Content is nicely done, well produced, and Rennie is an engaging presenter. Top job!
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 yup! Ive taken it from 0 miles to 26k miles. As far as I know i have the highest mileage SP2 in existence. Have had ZERO problems, buying the SP2 was 100% worth every cent.
I know... Honda really stepped up their game with this one. Looks are just controversial. Power doesn't matter so much to me either since once you get above 180hp they're all pretty much the same. But the low weight is something you will feel and appreciate at all speeds and in all riding conditions.
R1M electronics (wheelie) appear to trump the 2017 Fireblade; the "simplified process" of Ohlins ERS of the Fireblade looks interesting We need a full shoot out ASAP....
I was just hit by a man test driving a new F350 from a dealer and he never looked or stopped at the stop sign (cops got him and said his fault 100%) well now I sit here and try to text with 2 broken arms and a crushed leg ...but the worst is my LOVED 081000RR LE with 58'000 miles is now a ball of scrape metal ,I am a rider that loved the fireblade sine they came out but at 47 years old my favorite was the evolution engine 08-15 the weight and turn in and feel of the fireblade made my NO frills bike keep up with the top liter bikes on the market at the track until the new R1 and S1000 because with there electronics and extra power I just couldn't put power to the ground out of turns and they would just pull on me ....but now I'm lucky enough to be in the market for a new super bike and I'm trying to figure if I want to spend 19 for the SP or 13 for the stock .., or should I get something comfortable for street and track like a tuano factory? ?? it's going to be a great year as long as they can get me walking lol ..
I went with the '16 SP. looking at the '17 SP I'm glad I bought when I did because I'm not digging the new 17 look and extra whistles and bells. Not to mention the extra couple K.
hey buddy sorry to hear about your accident, hope you recovered nicely and I hope you decided to just spend the 19 grand for the SP, just cant get over how narrow and weightless it feels, dont get me wrong there are several liter bikes ahead of the SP when it comes to track riding, but for a all around sport bike for track and street, city traffic and long trips the Hondas ergos is just on point, cant beat it, plus the honda brand will never let you down in terms of repairs or breaking down
I hope that you get better and be able to ride again. I own a 2016 CBR650F and I had put 16,000 miles already. I am getting the CBR1000RR base model tomorrow. The way I see it I don't need the SP version since I am not going to take the bike to the track anytime soon. I just want to say when I get older that I was able to finally ride a 1000cc motorcycle as bad ass as the Fireblade.
40 lbs, wow, glad to hear someone finally measured it in the metal. I'd think that with wheelie control, you'd give full power back as the wheel is coming down, not wait until the front wheel touched and then the wheel speed caught up.
Great video as always. Yes that new ohlins electronic suspension is evolutionary. Only video editors will get this but its like when FCPX came out and some complained it was made simpler to use.
If money was no issue, I'd go the SP because it looks much nicer, and the electronic suspension should be much better than the conventional suspension on the road. We haven't yet tested it on the road, only track, but the SP is better at high speed thanks to the suspension, so that should translate well to the road.
Well documented guys! i find it odd that the electronics are soso with this new blade as Honda is/was ahead of its time when comes to electronics (regarding MotoGP that is). I'm guessing that the next refresher bike will have all the teething issues sorted out.
Q: So does it beat the BMW S1000RR & the Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R ??? A: nope, but that was never Honda's intent back in 2007 and it still isn't their intent here in 2017.
maybe not in a straight line, but I could almost bet the honda's handling and being so narrow would give a rider a bit of an edge when put up against bikes with a few more ponys in them
The Showas are actually a really good fork and work well on this CBR. It's just that Ohlins have been developing the electronic technology for a long time now.
Great review guys! I love the Honda CBR1000RR (Fireblade). That's what I ride (the rare blue & yellow 2006 model) and the reason my UA-cam Channel is named FirebladePilot ;) I'm buying a 2017 SP2 next month, and I can't wait!
All that is simple is useful and all that which is complex is not. - Klashnokov The more manafactures get away from man/machine integration and the more computers are used, the more the bikes will fail in the future as a whole. Their is a reason muscle cars of the 70's are still around is because of how simple they are. Machines controlled by computers will not be on the rad as a whole 40 years from now.
Congrats on being an idiot. Every car since the 80s has had electronics namely ECU. Those cars are still around and their ECUs are functioning fine. Get out of your dinosaur cage and open your brain a little. Electronics have come a long way, from dominating various motorsports on the track to taking over the offroad racing scene just as successfully.
Congratulations on missing the moral of the story. Again for the hard headed. Model T's and Cafe racers are still road worthily 80+ years later as bikes, cars and technology today won't last 20-25 years from now w/o severe $ and expertise. Now learn from history before you repeat it again.
I hope you are aware that Klashnokov was actually a fraud, and did not even come up with the AK-47 design himself, something for which he is most renown ;)
Its been 9 years since the biggest company built a brand new bike????Brand new bike??? Its hardly brand other than a slight power hike a diet and suspension upgrades.
Yay more ignorance on youtube. So you've visually compared the two and can detect chassis and geometry changes based on pictures right? You must've also been able to see that the conrods, cams, crank and pistons are all different using your xray vision too right?! Get a clue. No one changes the block unless significant advancements are made to materials. Everything in the market today are adjustments to a first gen design.
Rofl what? Where did you get that information from pumpkin? The engine is from their 2009 model with a higher rev limit and mechanical VVT. Nothing has been changed on the block since 2009. Get a clue.
Says the guy who doesn't have a clue about engines. They've used the same block from 2009 with changes to the bore, stroke, compression ratio and mechanical VVT. End of story. Post an actual breakdown of why you believe that is somehow a new motor. Until then piss off with your ignorance.
over engineered and dangerous in road racing conditions.Look at what happened at the tt withguy martin and john mcguiness.theyve done nothing on track to in world superbikes
An honest review from someone who knows what they are talking about and has actually formed an opinion, rather than regurgitating sales banter. Great work !
Thanks dude.
Everything on these bikes now a days is so technical. I still love the simplicity of my 05 CBR1000rr
Great vid, as usual. Can't see why this channel doesn't have more subscribers. Content is nicely done, well produced, and Rennie is an engaging presenter. Top job!
Thanks Erik! We keep trying!
The SP is beautiful
Just bought the sp2 as my first 1000(coming off a 750). Such a monster with so many beautiful rider options.
Still rocking it?
@@lgmediapcsalon9440 yup! Ive taken it from 0 miles to 26k miles. As far as I know i have the highest mileage SP2 in existence. Have had ZERO problems, buying the SP2 was 100% worth every cent.
That's some serious weight reduction wow
I know... Honda really stepped up their game with this one. Looks are just controversial. Power doesn't matter so much to me either since once you get above 180hp they're all pretty much the same. But the low weight is something you will feel and appreciate at all speeds and in all riding conditions.
It does have a steep price tag tho lol it even looks small! I'd like to see one in person
HEROrr stick a two brothers exhaust on it and it will be better 😂😂
R1M electronics (wheelie) appear to trump the 2017 Fireblade; the "simplified process" of Ohlins ERS of the Fireblade looks interesting
We need a full shoot out ASAP....
I was just hit by a man test driving a new F350 from a dealer and he never looked or stopped at the stop sign (cops got him and said his fault 100%)
well now I sit here and try to text with 2 broken arms and a crushed leg ...but the worst is my LOVED 081000RR LE with 58'000 miles is now a ball of scrape metal ,I am a rider that loved the fireblade sine they came out but at 47 years old my favorite was the evolution engine 08-15 the weight and turn in and feel of the fireblade made my NO frills bike keep up with the top liter bikes on the market at the track until the new R1 and S1000 because with there electronics and extra power I just couldn't put power to the ground out of turns and they would just pull on me ....but now I'm lucky enough to be in the market for a new super bike and I'm trying to figure if I want to spend 19 for the SP or 13 for the stock .., or should I get something comfortable for street and track like a tuano factory? ?? it's going to be a great year as long as they can get me walking lol ..
I went with the '16 SP. looking at the '17 SP I'm glad I bought when I did because I'm not digging the new 17 look and extra whistles and bells. Not to mention the extra couple K.
I wish you a swift and full recovery
hey buddy sorry to hear about your accident, hope you recovered nicely and I hope you decided to just spend the 19 grand for the SP, just cant get over how narrow and weightless it feels, dont get me wrong there are several liter bikes ahead of the SP when it comes to track riding, but for a all around sport bike for track and street, city traffic and long trips the Hondas ergos is just on point, cant beat it, plus the honda brand will never let you down in terms of repairs or breaking down
I hope that you get better and be able to ride again. I own a 2016 CBR650F and I had put 16,000 miles already. I am getting the CBR1000RR base model tomorrow. The way I see it I don't need the SP version since I am not going to take the bike to the track anytime soon. I just want to say when I get older that I was able to finally ride a 1000cc motorcycle as bad ass as the Fireblade.
Found it Rennie, good riding with you at Apex.
40 lbs, wow, glad to hear someone finally measured it in the metal. I'd think that with wheelie control, you'd give full power back as the wheel is coming down, not wait until the front wheel touched and then the wheel speed caught up.
or progressively feed full power back to time it just as the wheel touches back down.
Great video as always. Yes that new ohlins electronic suspension is evolutionary. Only video editors will get this but its like when FCPX came out and some complained it was made simpler to use.
Wow! What incredible footage and bikes!
Great review mate. Looking forward to seeing this one.
I haven't had a road bike since 1986 and I had a gpz600r quack, would I need the sp version on this to help me or the basic one ok for a old boy
The base version will be fine for what you need.
Fuck yes!! Can't wait for you guys to test them against the other Superbikes now!!!
Super thorough review...subscribed.
Nicely explained.
40 lbs weight loss, should be cheaper then right ?
they all l ooking fantastic good machines a job well done congratulations
Hi, If money is not an issue, and I am not a race track rider at all. Wht do you recomend to buy, the standard fireblade or sp ? cheers
If money was no issue, I'd go the SP because it looks much nicer, and the electronic suspension should be much better than the conventional suspension on the road. We haven't yet tested it on the road, only track, but the SP is better at high speed thanks to the suspension, so that should translate well to the road.
Not sure on the service schedule. Depending on the miles you could get free servicing for the first couple of years, but after that I'm not sure.
Many thanks
The best review so far. Very detail. Keep it up. Subbed 💯👍🏻
Thanks Shah!
can you shut the wheelie/traction control off?
You can, but when you switch off TC you also switch off wheelie control. The systems are not separate, which is something the Yamaha YZF-R1 has.
Cycle News Thanks! Honda makes some great products. I just bought my seventh Honda, a new Honda Accord sport. I sure like that 2107 BMW though lol
Love my 2017 cbr1000rr
Well documented guys! i find it odd that the electronics are soso with this new blade as Honda is/was ahead of its time when comes to electronics (regarding MotoGP that is). I'm guessing that the next refresher bike will have all the teething issues sorted out.
Yeah, it's a little odd. You never know, it may be a software fix that Honda could do in a 2018 mode, but we'd only be guessing there.
I own 1 ofthe 34 sp 1 available in quebec canada and i love it
So does it beat the BMW S1000RR & the Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R ???
Hard to say until we put them against each other in a superbike test.
Q: So does it beat the BMW S1000RR & the Kawasaki Ninja ZX-10R ??? A: nope, but that was never Honda's intent back in 2007 and it still isn't their intent here in 2017.
If I’m riding it then yes 😉😂
maybe not in a straight line, but I could almost bet the honda's handling and being so narrow would give a rider a bit of an edge when put up against bikes with a few more ponys in them
07 08 last good year for Fireblade
Good Stuff.... Great vid
bagus videonya
I guess Showa wasn't up to the task?
Love that aluminum frame
The Showas are actually a really good fork and work well on this CBR. It's just that Ohlins have been developing the electronic technology for a long time now.
Base CBR still comes with Showa's.
Great review guys! I love the Honda CBR1000RR (Fireblade). That's what I ride (the rare blue & yellow 2006 model) and the reason my UA-cam Channel is named FirebladePilot ;)
I'm buying a 2017 SP2 next month, and I can't wait!
liar
I road tested the cbr1000rr and then the sp and fell in love with both but sp was alot better it blew my mind I ended up buying one 😂😂
Wayne Edwards how much better was the SP over the RR?
Did you ride the SP2 or is that just for the track?
A year later how do you like it? Thank you
E.S. Slc I'm sure he loves it.
haha that a boy, welcome to the club lol
You guys need a stabilizer on your cameras get with it. Or even buy a phantom 3 and just hold it with a microphone #2017
No one cares
ชอบตัว sp
front is almost r3 looks...
Say latest and then say lightest.
All that is simple is useful and all that which is complex is not. - Klashnokov
The more manafactures get away from man/machine integration and the more computers are used, the more the bikes will fail in the future as a whole. Their is a reason muscle cars of the 70's are still around is because of how simple they are. Machines controlled by computers will not be on the rad as a whole 40 years from now.
Congrats on being an idiot. Every car since the 80s has had electronics namely ECU. Those cars are still around and their ECUs are functioning fine.
Get out of your dinosaur cage and open your brain a little. Electronics have come a long way, from dominating various motorsports on the track to taking over the offroad racing scene just as successfully.
Congratulations on missing the moral of the story. Again for the hard headed. Model T's and Cafe racers are still road worthily 80+ years later as bikes, cars and technology today won't last 20-25 years from now w/o severe $ and expertise. Now learn from history before you repeat it again.
I hope you are aware that Klashnokov was actually a fraud, and did not even come up with the AK-47 design himself, something for which he is most renown ;)
Love
1 Billion Rupiah,for 2 bikes,(RR n SP),at Indonesia 😃
The 08 still is better loking. Inspite that the 98 is also a killer.
Go get your eyes checked.
Its been 9 years since the biggest company built a brand new bike????Brand new bike??? Its hardly brand other than a slight power hike a diet and suspension upgrades.
Yay more ignorance on youtube. So you've visually compared the two and can detect chassis and geometry changes based on pictures right? You must've also been able to see that the conrods, cams, crank and pistons are all different using your xray vision too right?! Get a clue. No one changes the block unless significant advancements are made to materials. Everything in the market today are adjustments to a first gen design.
GSXR 1000 does not share a panel or engine component at all!! Everyting is new ground up. This is what Honda need to do in my view.
Rofl what? Where did you get that information from pumpkin? The engine is from their 2009 model with a higher rev limit and mechanical VVT. Nothing has been changed on the block since 2009. Get a clue.
Fuckin numpty do your fuckin home work
Says the guy who doesn't have a clue about engines. They've used the same block from 2009 with changes to the bore, stroke, compression ratio and mechanical VVT. End of story. Post an actual breakdown of why you believe that is somehow a new motor. Until then piss off with your ignorance.
Eleven thousand four hundred and *first*!
over engineered and dangerous in road racing conditions.Look at what happened at the tt withguy martin and john mcguiness.theyve done nothing on track to in world superbikes
i thnik its ugly
certainly not worse than your grammar.