DeWALT and Makita Cordless Orbital Sanders (Which One is Best)?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- We give our opinion of the DeWALT DCW210 and Makita XOB01 orbital sanders in this video. Both of these 5 inch Sanders are from two great brands that have very well established battery platforms. Looking to expand our Sanders we try to figure out which one we’re going to add to our tool collection. We tried buying a Milwaukee prior to the test but none were in stock.
We tried to purchase the Milwaukee sander prior to the test. We were told that it was a month out from a couple retailers. Take it for what it’s worth, it could be a great tool and everyone is buying them or there’s a problem with the tool. The reviews are all over the board on it. Hopefully we can check one out in the future. Thanks for watching.
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Having used all three "major" makes of tools (DeWalt, Milwaukee, and Makita), I've often found subtle ergonomic and performance advantages to Makita tools lacking in DeWalt and Milwaukee. For example, in this test, the Makita performed just as well as the DeWalt, but was clearly better at keeping sawdust to a minimum and allowed for two different handgrips on the tool. I've been using a new Makita XDT16Z 18V Brushless 4-Speed impact driver for a few weeks and its hands-down the best impact driver I've ever used. All three tool makers produce a fine product... but to me it seems Makita, while not always having quite the "brute force" Milwaukee has, while still having the power to accomplish the task, makes up for that by having various power options controlled by onboard button controls. My old Stanley sander is fried, and I'll be replacing it with a Makita XOB01Z orbital.
I agree with that. We are living in a great time to be working with power tools such as these. Ill have to check out that Makita impact. Thanks for the comment.
@@campbellbuilt Realistically, you can't "go wrong" by purchasing a tool from any of these manufacturers.DeWalt 887 excepted. Milwaukee brings raw power and Makita brings almost as much power but with controls allowing more "finesse" and functionality. You'll realize that immediately if you test all functions on the programmable Makita XDT16Z. In short, I don't give a rat's ass if it takes a Makita 2 seconds longer to drive a 6" lag, which I rarely do. It's more important to have the control it offers for everyday functions I do require. YMMV.
@@dmlchannel3262 These 2 buttons of makita soon will broke,that is main difference between dewalt and makita and it seems that makita have this problems in almost every single cordless tool,same happen to my dtw1001 and dtw1002 so if you are looking for longevity and reliability take dewalt
The XDT16 is indeed the best impact driver. It's my favorite tool in my collection.
I have that impact too its tiny insanely balanced and powerful love it!
The Dewolt Sander feels VERY handy and balanced with a2.0Ah 18V/20V battery. That is why i bought 3 of them just for the sander. With the 3.0Amp is just OK, with the 4.0 and the 5.0Ams is way off-balance. Have it for a year and a half already - very handy tool so far, the only issue is that the batteries wobble and rattle and that rattling makes more noise than the tool itself. This is an issue with all the Dewalt 18V/20V battery operated tools, but in some more vibrating ones like an orbital sander - is a noticeable one.
Good info. Thanks for the comment.
Thanks for sharing this great video, and your experience with us. This was very helpful and informative(& even on your lunch you're working) I enjoyed and appreciated this guys👍🏿
What a great comment, thank you
If you hold the sander on it’s edge which you do! Don’t expect it to work correctly if you don’t hold it correctly. I’m guilty of the same thing but only when my sanding disc is almost worn out not immediately because your really not supposed to be holding it like that you are gouging the wood and that’s the opposite of what the sander is for which is flattening and smoothing. Thx for the review
The dust issue alone decides it for me. DeWalt is jumped up B And D. What about vibration in extended use?
Thx guys 4 your honest impressions, that was a great help for me.
You guys are A Dream Team,
keep up the good work ✌🏼
I have the corded Dewalt and bought my son a cordless Hart orbital sander. I tried my sons Hart sander, and I haven’t touched my Dewalt corded in a year for smaller tasks, because I keep using his. Sometimes it takes longer to plug the cord in than the project you need to sand, and it’s so much easier grabbing the cordless Hart sander. I will upgrade to the cordless Dewalt sander, just for longer battery life. If I can use cordless I will, because I can’t stand cords anymore.
It’s to bad that Dewalt didn’t make it with the battery on top like their cordless router. They could make a palm adapter that goes over the battery and stays in place.
Thank you for the video!
I agree about the battery location. I have the Makita router with the battery on the top and I totally thought I was going to hate it. Didn’t bother me at all. Thanks for the comment.
I have had the Makita 18v stuff since it came out 2005 or 2006. I had the 12v Makita, but all my 12v tools were stolen. Makita was first with the 18v/20v class tools, and more important the lithium ion batteries. I still have one of my original batteries with the makita blue writing on it. It's finally short cycling after 15 years. All the original tools still work. That said , I own several DeWalt corded saws (a contractor table saw, framing saw, jig saw and tile saw) All work great. I alway try to buy the best tools within reason. That's why I own Makita, DeWalt, Bosch, Milwaukee, Hitachi tools and maybe a the odd SkillSaw Mag 77 or old school Delta/Porter Cable kicking around. That eliminates some nice but high priced tool brands like Hilti and Festool. But, with cordless tools you kinda have to pick a family. I primarily see Makita and DeWalt cordless tool on jobsites, with Milwaukee 3rd. DeWalt has really been coming on strong, and may be #1 now.
I'm painter and NEED to buy one. How well does it work WITHOUT dust bag? Is it blowing crap in your face? Which burns battery faster? How well does it compare to the DeWalt square sander? Have you tried the Milwaukee?
Maybe if your outside you could use without a bag but both need a bag to do inside work.
We have used the DeWALT BS but it’s been awhile. Ridged BS’s we’re horrible. Their bearings kept failing. We threw away a few of them. We switched to the Makita corded BS because it was smoother and slightly smaller over the DeWALT BS.
Concerning the Milwaukee, we tried to buy one but all the stores were sold out. After I did some research it appeared they were having some problems with the sander and we’re delaying delivery to stores. They may have fixed the issues now though. The hard plastic dust collection on the Milwaukee sander really bothered me also every time I picked it up at the store (shelf model). I’ve never ran it though to be clear. Only handled it at the store. It just looked like I was going to be banging it into everything.
It may come across as we’re all in on Makita but we’re not. Theres a lot of great tools out now.
Good questions.
The Makita is great. You won't regret it.
The brake feature on the Dewalt is due to it having a brushless motor. Makita is not brushless. That puts the Dewalt in another league. Makita will hopefully soon make a brushless model soon.
прошло 2 года! А Макита так и не обновила модель))
The makita is brushed too. They definitely need to drop a brushless orbital in my opinion
Absolutely
Great review from who actually uses the tool on a daily basis. thanks.
Appreciate it.
The speed control and auto brake are two big reasons to choose the Dewalt. The height of the Makita does not give the control of any lower unit.
Both have speed controls however the brake works better on the DeWALT. As far as the height you would need to sand with both to make that decision. I’ve found that I hold the Makita from the side rather than the top. DeWALT can only be held from the top. Makita gives you more hand positions and when used from the side its the lowest of the two and that’s where we hold most of the time. Their both great sanders though.
I was buying the Makita tomorrow but I needed to know this beforehand. I have batteries for both so it always a toss up with a new tool. Thanks for the test.
The Dewalt has terrible ergonomics and the bag out the side makes it a problem to get in tight spots. I got the Makita even though I have both battery platforms.
I like Makita for design and DeWalt for technology, both are fantastic tools.. I'd like to buy both!😁
We definitely like both brands also. Thanks for the comment.
DeWalt for the technology??? Seriously ?? Outside of the US those tools are average at best. you will find Makita user tradesmen across the entire globe. In all my years I cannot recall a single grafter on a job that had an issue with a Makita and but DW and most others always popped up.
Kinda like a pair of scissors. If you get them Japan made you can not find better.
Great video, really appreciate the honesty. I love both brands, but mostly invested in dewalt batteries... Still using the corded sander so not rushing out to get one.
Thanks, we try and give reviews the way that we would want to hear them ourselves. Appreciate the comment.
i like the makita, too the center of gravity is more to the center of the tool
Thanks for a great video!
Im about to buy a cordless sander, did you try the Milwaukee already?
I wonder how is it next to the blue and the yellow..?
We did try to purchase the Milwaukee. They all had been pulled off the shelves do to some issues. I’m assuming that’s resolved but one thing we didn’t like was that it had a ridged dust collector. We would have broke that the first day by knocking it or accidentally dropping it. Thanks for the question, we do need to revisit these sanders in an updated video.
Makita for life. I have 35 yr makitas still working and I have 2-20 yr deAd dewalts. But The old cases are handy. Footprint was the most important I don’t want all that baggage all around the sides. Thnx I’ll keep building my lifelong makitas
Makita vs dewalt theres a clear winner right there.
I'd like to know if you notice any advantage in a variable speed orbital sander vs. a fix speed sander?
Both sanders are rubbish unless you connect them to good dust extraction. Brand to me means nothing except convenience for the battery system.
What does matter far more is if there is an air feed hole in the center of the sanding plate. This allows sandpaper cooling and forcing air towards the holes in the paper and the suction. If your paper doesn't have a center hole to allow you to use this feature - make one.
It more than doubles the total material removed per sheet, reduces sandpaper changes, stops you sanding waste material again and again.
The cheapest I found this feature on was a wired Metabo - but I'm sure there are others.
Incidentally, I used a single Mirka Abranet ace HD 40 grit disk to smooth 100m2 of grout and the sandpaper is still usable.
Dust extraction and paper ventilation are your 2 main criteria for improving your sanding.
Both brand are only capitalist who care only about money selling without batteries and without charger. I saw so many tool that was better than all those rubbish and even cost 10 time less.
Applying more force on the dewalt, i notice that from the sound of the dewalt motor
We’re going to get another DeWALT sander to compare against the Makita. We have a lot invested in DeWALT so we’re not biased towards one or another. I do remember the motor bothering with us. It was not very smooth to what we had hoped but it could have been just that one.
It is not a correct performance comparison to estimate performance by the amount of sand dust left outside.
In this performance comparison, the amount of sand dust from the dust collector was not measured and ignored. If the dust collection system is not working properly, sand dust will remain outside.
The DeWALT sander was new. Like really new in that video. It shouldn’t been having issues yet. With that being said it performed about the same as the corded DeWALT for dust collection.
so which is better?
We both prefer the Makita but there is absolutely nothing wrong with a DeWALT
Well it really comes down to what tools you already have i have alot of other makita batteries and chargers... so ill get the makita but. The dewalt looks mo comfterble and its motor is brushless wich is better... but then all my tools are makita so i will buy the makia one
How long does a 5 ah with battery last?
Thhx for video guys
looked like they were even in sanding but the Makita had better dust collection.
Pretty close but your right the Makita had a lot better dust collection.
There's a Makita DBO180Z now - anyone knows how does it compare to the one in this video?
I own both platforms and quite frankly don't have preference - I just buy the best possible brushless tool for the job from either brand based on thorough research. I will probably buy neither of these two because Makita still don't do the brushless motor. Dewalt, on the other hand, appears to be less ergonomic and made a really bad design with the dust collector IMO nor it collects dust very well. I will probably go for a corded Dewalt for now (actually found Makita BO5041 that appears to be better with few minor issues like expensive replacement pads in UK although cheaper alternatives are available and finding a vac attachment) and wait for a cordless tool that ticks most of my checkboxes which they don't at the moment:
Makita:
+ better balanced with battery attached & easy/quick battery swap
+ 3 ways of holding it
+ good dust collection that apparently works with many vacs without the need of another attachment
+ much cheaper than Dewalt (€105 vs €166)
- no brushless
- no instant stop when turned off
- a bit tall but can be held lower when grabbed from the side which is a +
- some state buttons are prone to breaking long-term use (no evidence of and none of buttons on my 12 Makita tools ever failed)
- dust collector can fall off (there might be a workaround to fix this)
- some people reported it loses power under minor pressure on any speed hence use it only for smaller projects
Dewalt:
+ lower profile
+ almost instant stop when off
+ brushless motor
+ dust collector lock that prevents it from falling off
- during use some users might dial down to setting one while finger placed over it
- dust collector sticking to the side causes storage problems, can be prone to accidental breaking or preventing use in tight areas
- poor dust collection
- can't be held from the side which is more ergonomic (similar to computer mice)
- balance lost with heavier batteries
- awkward battery position that makes swapping batteries more difficult
One other thing between both brands that I personally notice is quality of plastic and finish - Dewalt feels cheaper and less polished than Makita but this is just a purely cosmetic thing and didn't affect performance nor any has broken on both brands.
I think you have mirrored our results. Their both great sanders and most people would be happy with either. Appreciate the excellent comment.
Which is LOUDER?
Dewalt. Due to higher speed
Hiw does the makita compare to the ridgid. Ridgid has life time warranty. Ridgid rules.
Hmmm, You rule😀
@@campbellbuilt thanks
They don't have a lifetime warranty, they've got a lifetime service agreement that avoids everything that actually breaks
I have the makita it’s awkward to use. Should be a flatter shape like the Bosch blue one.
Very good video
Appreciate it.
Dewalt brushless is more reliable than makita brushed sander,i rather go with dewalt.
I don't can give a crap about dewalt but! Maquita hands down
the makita sander is obviously better.. but then the dewalt nail gun is the best... they both make great tools... swings and roundabouts...
I’ve heard nothing good about Makita nail guns.
Great job
Is it?
Jesus Christ lad it shouldn’t but it does annoy me so much how u couldn’t keep the sander flat on the face of the wood omg like wdf was that
The way Harley silently stares into the camera makes me uncomfortable.
I’m uncomfortable now 😀
The dewalt sander is way better than the Makita also the porter cable is better too
This is quite interesting comparison that includes both and other brands (unfortunately only own corded Bosh):
ua-cam.com/video/uCVXFhSvyeA/v-deo.html
We have both Bosches now 12v and 18v. Keep an eye out for that video.
@@campbellbuiltThanks - the only problem is I'm not on Bosch cordless platform and won't join it as I'm already committed to Makita and Dewalt. Batteries degrade over time even when not in use and are quite expensive to replace hence it would be too much for a DYI to maintain 3 platforms. I have found and will get / have to live with a corded Makita BO5041 (4,000-12,000 and 8,000-24,000 - watch before you buy ua-cam.com/video/FNvdQzzjFbY/v-deo.html) that appears to beat equivalent of Dewalt DWE6423 and will wait for either cordless improved Dewlt or cordless Marika brushless version.
keep it flat when you sanding FGS
No!!!! God does not care what angle it’s held lol. The dust collection is horrible on the DeWALT cordless even if it’s held 100 percent flat. We don’t build furniture and I’ll give one more comment on the DeWALT, a person can sand however you want and the Makita is superior. Love DeWALT products but the Makita rules over that one.
The makita is freaking loud!
We always wear earplugs so now you got me wondering. I’m gonna have to pick another Dewalt up compare them again
@@campbellbuilt I was in the process of getting a real good, long term usable random orbital sander, because I am building guitars, and all of the curves, bends, will be shaped and sanded by that sander. So I will use it a lot and for hours!
I went through a lot of Makita, Metabo and Bosch models. Big and small ones. I compared official details but also listened to a ton of videos, like yours.
I ended up buying the Makita BO6030, because it was quiet, and was running smooth on the surface. (The Metabo was jumping and shaking.) I also found, that all the smaller 125mm versions were significantly louder and very unpleasant to the ear, while all the bigger, robust, metal parted models were a lot quieter.
These 2 buttons of makita soon will broke,that is main difference between dewalt and makita and it seems that makita have this problems in almost every single cordless tool,so if you are looking for longevity and reliability take dewalt.
Both are great sanders. We’ve not experienced the button failures. Thanks for sharing.
He wasn't fair with the sanding. I don't think he likes the Dewalt sander... SMH
A lot of individuals do not under stand that there’s a difference in how you sand a lumber that’s going to be furniture as as a piece of 1x that’s being painted.
Concerning him not liking DeWALT, we just had a Bosch Rep tell us we’re using to much DeWALT after walking past our Job Site.
Such a nice grain lol
You know it
Try using it flat your not using it right.
Okay
This guy is a joke
He sands like he has Parkinsons. No one sands with one edge of the sander like that cmon. What a bad test.
Not really, the second test was done with both sanders being held flat. Same outcome. Both are good sanders but one is definitely more refined. Having used the DeWALT sander a lot more since that video was made has only confirmed our opinions of it.
@@campbellbuilt People are always going to get upset when there are comparison videos. Everyone needs to believe that their brand is the “best.” It seems like they’re both top notch, but you guys have a preference for the Makita due to the ergonomics. Nothing wrong with that.