Testing Every Relevant Weapon for Boss DPS in The Final Shape (Still Hunt, Euphony, Microcosm)

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  • Опубліковано 21 лип 2024
  • This one's a long one, but there's been a lot of changes over this patch that I've had to cover. Sit back, relax, and enjoy me going over every potentially relevant DPS weapon in The Final Shape.
    DPS spreadsheet: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Destiny Data Compendium (perk screenshots): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
    Projects folder: drive.google.com/drive/folder...
    Twitch: / theaegisrelic
    Twitter: / theaegisrelic
    Speedrun server: / discord
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    Timestamps:
    00:00 Intro
    01:51 Supplemental damage intro
    02:36 Witherhoard vs. Lost Signal
    03:30 Anarchy vs. Dragon's Breath
    04:03 The decline of swap specials
    06:04 Lucky Pants hand cannon hierarchy
    06:29 Exotic primary ranking
    07:10 Outbreak nanite scaling and comparisons
    08:05 Rockets vs. GLs
    09:33 Still Hunt analysis
    10:40 Dragon's Breath analysis
    11:30 Legend of Acrius analysis
    11:59 Leviathan's Breath analysis
    12:25 Whisper of the Worm analysis
    12:52 One Thousand Voices analysis
    13:14 Cloudstrike analysis
    14:02 Microcosm analysis
    15:00 Sleeper Simulant and Thunderlord analysis
    15:23 Two-Tailed Fox with Facet of Command analysis
    16:07 Pack Hunter with Relentless Strikes
    18:00 Sword DPS ranking
    19:18 Swords vs. other heavies
    19:57 Pack Hunter with Cold Steel
    20:33 Heartshadow vs. The Lament
    21:33 Note on Pack Hunter exceptions
    21:44 Ergo Sum update
    22:56 Merciless analysis
    23:33 Parasite analysis
    24:14 The Prospector analysis
    24:42 D.A.R.C.I. analysis
    25:46 Truth analysis
    25:58 Euphony analysis
    29:54 Bastion analysis
    30:36 The Queenbreaker analysis
    31:07 Deathbringer update
    31:36 Ager's Scepter analysis
    32:33 Grand Overture analysis
    33:28 Salvation's Grip analysis
    34:07 Critical Anomaly with Chill Clip analysis
    35:12 Linear fusion rifle (Scintillation) analysis
    36:51 Machine gun (Hammerhead and aggressives) analysis
    37:45 Summary
    40:21 Outro
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  • @TheAegisRelic
    @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому +60

    Some small notes:
    - Grand Overture, much like every other weapon here, was tested with a simulated Lumina + No Hesitation buff, which is equal (or greater if you include the latter) to Hazardous Propulsion's 35% global empowering buff, and so the numbers you see in this video are as good as it gets for the weapon: the same buff as HP (except it buffs the regular shots and not just the volley)
    - Euphony's damage does not increase significantly as a result of equipping Swarmers, as all that does is apply unravel to the target, which is something that you can do by just throwing out an Arcane Needle on damage start, something you can do with any other warlock damage option
    Please check the spreadsheet for additional info before commenting if you have any questions or feedback to give :)

    • @Galaxy40k
      @Galaxy40k 12 днів тому +2

      Literally posted a comment asking about Swarmers on Euphony before I saw this, lol. So do you think Apotheosis the clear winner then for Euphony builds? Since even considering the entire sandbox, Euphony ammo is probably mostly saved for boss damage, I guess? So anything that maximizes that potential would be the best fit for it

    • @iESCAP1SM
      @iESCAP1SM 10 днів тому

      Question: does Ergo Sum Wolfpack apply to other users’ Ergo Sum swords, despite them being exotic? If so, does the projectiles count towards The Perfect Fifth?

    • @Griever_404
      @Griever_404 10 днів тому

      We also no longer have surges in raids and dungeons. For the sake of comparison that does not matter, but just to reiterate the beginning of the video.

    • @liamwilliamson7694
      @liamwilliamson7694 7 днів тому

      Do you have a video that explains how to deciver the spreadsheet?

  • @paul2725
    @paul2725 13 днів тому +1128

    can't believe thunderlord is still the best dps, i keep using it, thanks for the info!

    • @Alckee6904
      @Alckee6904 13 днів тому +97

      Can't wait to show all my lfg's who the real final boss is.

    • @marianomarchione6242
      @marianomarchione6242 13 днів тому +51

      Thunderlord never leaves my heavy slot… LFGS hate me out dpsing them

    • @miaminecrafttiddies
      @miaminecrafttiddies 13 днів тому

      @@marianomarchione6242 thunderlord is good don't get me wrong but they must be really bad if they're getting out dpsed by thunderlord lol

    • @user-vl4iq7bj5e
      @user-vl4iq7bj5e 13 днів тому +2

      *Microcosm

    • @pogdan7966
      @pogdan7966 13 днів тому +2

      What other guns do you use with thunderlord?

  • @stealth6308
    @stealth6308 13 днів тому +360

    It’s so cool to see that even after all these years, coldheart is still the best dps option

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому +81

      So true

    • @Toothlessthedragon_
      @Toothlessthedragon_ 13 днів тому +10

      I'm already seeing laser beams everywhere LMAO

    • @emberofeon4868
      @emberofeon4868 13 днів тому +6

      Now for the ultimate meme, quadruple Lazer beam.

    • @davidcrocker846
      @davidcrocker846 13 годин тому

      In season of the deep it was my go to for damage in a crown of tempest build I had. I had 100% up time on all abilities and pretty comparable damage to people using apex predator (100-400k less damage if they had/didn’t have surges)

  • @irrelevantnamehandle
    @irrelevantnamehandle 13 днів тому +244

    so my takeaway from this video after watching it all is that;
    -edge transit and rockets are still good, but edge transit is better for ease of use, total damage and overall dps without needing someone to run ghorn, and it’s also the best option if your on a warlock/titan for dps.
    -still hunt is the best dps special and overall damage if your on a hunter using celestial. basically it’s so good that it blows everything out of the water when you throw in apex predator and holster mods. (edit: just announced its getting a 25% nerf in august, it’s still going to be top tier, just not as good as it is now, if your combining it with apex predator your still going to be doing extremely good damage).
    -swords are in a good place esp with ergo sum buffing them, and summum bonnum is pretty much the new winner in terms of raw damage in the right situation in terms for swords.
    -microcosm, levis breath, whisper etc. are all good consistent options for dps
    -euphony is a good special, it’s good on its own but better as a dump special after you’ve dumped all your heavy. it also really highlights how bad linears are. Cloudstrike is also extremely good as a dps special.
    -linears are just straight up bad, not worth using besides euphony. euphony highlights how bad this is based upon how it outdamages even the best heavy linear in damage.
    I really do wish Linears were good again, kind of sucks they took the 15% nerf in lightfall and have been powercrept to hell and back. probably the only heavy weapon class that really needs to be looked at and buffed, really do feel like they should bridge the gap between dps and full damage, like more dps than whisper while having good respectable damage, i get during the witch queen era they were a bit problematic (mainly because of div, which is a problem that’s already been dealt with) but nowadays they don’t really see much use outside of niche situations. with whisper basically being back on top and having weapons like still hunt and euphony who do their job better, if not by much more than heavy linears. i do hope bungo reverts the 15% nerf and gives them something more.

    • @brendanlandine8824
      @brendanlandine8824 13 днів тому +2

      @aegis what would you pair with edge transit for after the dump? Feel like void specials are lacking...

    • @scmatrix_
      @scmatrix_ 13 днів тому +2

      Nessas oblation, the 2023 glaciocasm (overflow controlled burst), and wilderflight seem like the most optimal, but personally I'd just use izi

    • @scmatrix_
      @scmatrix_ 13 днів тому +3

      ​@@brendanlandine8824you're right good void damage specials are lacking, barely any of them run vorpal with the exceptions of some shotguns that are better off for double pellet

    • @di11onm1nkgaming
      @di11onm1nkgaming 13 днів тому

      @@brendanlandine8824fugue is the best special void weapon to pair with edge, either that or use mahees with lucky pants

    • @irrelevantnamehandle
      @irrelevantnamehandle 13 днів тому

      if your using kinetic, id personally iza or if you need a special; father's sin and the other void specials mentioned by others in the comments would work.

  • @tirong6955
    @tirong6955 13 днів тому +154

    Man, hearing lament is now one of the worst sword options for dps genuinely shattered my heart. I absolutely adored that thing ever since it came out and ran it whenever I could. Only recently did I find myself not enjoying it as much and having numbers back that up solidifies its spot in my vault. I’ll be waiting for its glorious return.

    • @gummy3584
      @gummy3584 13 днів тому +4

      The king will return soon 😤

    • @jacchann
      @jacchann 13 днів тому

      I’m personally glad because I always fell asleep trying to complete that expansion, so I never unlocked Lament, and I was tired of LFG’s telling me to go get it when I had a perfectly usable Goldtusk and Falling Guillotine

    • @jheun83
      @jheun83 13 днів тому

      😢I'm still out DPSing other swords with Lament on Harold.

    • @revolutioninc7081
      @revolutioninc7081 13 днів тому +4

      @@jheun83your anecdote is the result of lfg (or your friend group) being horrendous at damage, not a reflection of the weapon in your hand.

    • @PpTheGreatest
      @PpTheGreatest 13 днів тому +3

      ​@@jheun83 You would also do a lot more damage if you used something else

  • @JulioGarcia-pm1oh
    @JulioGarcia-pm1oh 13 днів тому +443

    thunderlord and microcosm is the definition of "put on a shirt" vs "empowering" meme

    • @Real28
      @Real28 13 днів тому +13

      Favorites of Titans, everywhere. They can eat their crayons and still DPS.

    • @stickupkydd9454
      @stickupkydd9454 13 днів тому +9

      Micro is soooooo nasty tho wardens luckys and micro bottom slot double kinetic surge mods 😩

    • @PpTheGreatest
      @PpTheGreatest 13 днів тому

      ​@@stickupkydd9454 Yes, but on hunter, still hunt exists so put that suboptimal loadout away and get with the meta

    • @TriggerHappy-mo3fr
      @TriggerHappy-mo3fr 12 днів тому

      ​@@Real28no there fave is hazourdous propolsion. Otherwise they get kicked for "not having enough dmg"

    • @malfeastial
      @malfeastial 11 днів тому

      you're definitely old if you still think about that meme wtf

  • @nathanhyman2889
    @nathanhyman2889 13 днів тому +168

    Everybody: wondering if Aegis is dead
    Aegis: Releases enough testing footage to be longer than the ENTIRETY OF DESPICABLE ME

    • @zachstinnett5475
      @zachstinnett5475 13 днів тому +6

      "How long is your shift today?" "4.38 Dispicable Mes." Free Sketch.

  • @manynukes11
    @manynukes11 13 днів тому +117

    Lament is one of the most baffling nerfs they've ever made considering only legendary swords got better with wolfpack rounds.

    • @Dynasty1818
      @Dynasty1818 13 днів тому +5

      It's not really - the 2nd encounter in the Salvation's Edge raid is sword-heavy, and if everyone used Lament it'd be too easy. So they nerfed Lament to the point of being laughable now, considering they also added the new Ergo Sum and Wave Frame swords. It makes complete sense to nerf Lament but they went too far. The second it was announced, plenty were suspecting a Sword encounter in the new raid and they were right.

    • @EatsUsedTP
      @EatsUsedTP 13 днів тому +3

      lament gets wolfpack

    • @themagicalex
      @themagicalex 13 днів тому +1

      ​@@EatsUsedTP ...

    • @jay-5061
      @jay-5061 13 днів тому

      ​@@EatsUsedTPthe brain dead thrall have come out to feast

    • @EatsUsedTP
      @EatsUsedTP 13 днів тому +2

      @@jay-5061 I shall continue spreading misinformation

  • @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4
    @ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 13 днів тому +62

    One argument with Ill Omens: Attrition Orbs allows it to self generate stacks to use for Argent Blade as well as surges. A single heavy I believe on casters is 10 hits so every heavy you're getting an orb. In most scenarios it wont mean much if you already have other members generating orbs too but I think it's something to consider for solo players or random match making.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому +49

      We do use Attrition in SE speedruns for Herald for this very reason!

  • @AuralVirus
    @AuralVirus 13 днів тому +30

    Would love to see a Boss damage Bootcamp series (of) video(*s) to help those of us new(er) to raiding etc requiring hints & tips + to up our dmg output.

    • @zackreph939
      @zackreph939 12 днів тому +1

      Going in-depth on rotations would be huge, agree

  • @AgnosticRunner
    @AgnosticRunner 13 днів тому +69

    TLDR: Taipan still clears (trust me)

  • @Gaffroninja
    @Gaffroninja 13 днів тому +3

    Thank you for all your work and time putting everything here together, it’s so frustrating seeing other damage tests and things don’t feel explained or tested thoroughly, or not even consistent across tests with wildly inaccurate numbers to back that up. You and the peeps helping you are amazing!

  • @ibiddengt5023
    @ibiddengt5023 13 днів тому +26

    Was going into withdrawals before this was uploaded. Thanks Aegis!

  • @UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster
    @UltraStrawberryDreamsMonster 13 днів тому +71

    my opinion has arrived

  • @chapel4
    @chapel4 13 днів тому +48

    thank god i don’t have to think anymore

  • @tobysealz3574
    @tobysealz3574 13 днів тому +73

    wake up babe aegis just uploaded

  • @regal-27
    @regal-27 13 днів тому +2

    Just wanted to let you know that I love these videos / spreadsheets so much. I've been playing destiny for a long time (mostly PvP), but never had the confidence to push into higher difficulty PvE stuff due to a lack of knowledge of what I should bring. Cleared my first GMs via LFG this week, and even ended up helping someone else get their first GM clear!

  • @ch_hassan-PAK
    @ch_hassan-PAK 13 днів тому +7

    that is a lot of work my guy. very much appreciated.

  • @user-el2mk8sb9s
    @user-el2mk8sb9s 11 днів тому +1

    You just gained a subscriber ! Amazing video.
    Hope to see Hazardous Propulsion dame testing in the future for our fellow titans

  • @Rawkr57
    @Rawkr57 13 днів тому +1

    Love your work! Thank you so much for everything youve done for the community.

  • @S38RXY
    @S38RXY 13 днів тому

    Gods work. Thank you Aegis. The wait for your content is always worthwhile.

  • @NingenSlayerZamasu
    @NingenSlayerZamasu 13 днів тому +8

    Hearing how Lament got hit hard and isn’t doing much for DPS sword wise hurts man. It’s one of my top 5 exotics that I love and hearing how it’s struggling this much and how badly Bungie nerfed it sucks. I really wish it ends up getting some buff or catalyst in the near future. Like Argent Blade or something, literally anything.

    • @JoelHernandez-tz3vk
      @JoelHernandez-tz3vk 13 днів тому

      Nerfed and power crept at the same time. Just like LFRs the year before.

  • @Dayssbefore
    @Dayssbefore 13 днів тому +1

    Aegis, as always great video! Thanks for doing this for the community.

  • @Zasz33
    @Zasz33 13 днів тому

    Our data analyst cooked hard, thanks for the work. Can't wait for part 2 !

  • @charlesnieder8512
    @charlesnieder8512 13 днів тому +2

    Have you tested ill omen with attrition orbs? It keeps radiant, argent ordinance, and surges active. If with 6 of them you can get another super off in a phase then it could be very good

  • @sora_2342
    @sora_2342 13 днів тому

    Very good vid! Lots of work and we appreciate it!

  • @rogerorchestry
    @rogerorchestry 13 днів тому +2

    love your content, so valuable. thanks again!

  • @ih197
    @ih197 13 днів тому +3

    I’ve been waiting for this video since TFS launched!!

  • @radar345611
    @radar345611 13 днів тому +9

    Always a W when aegis uploads

  • @broodingtree2014
    @broodingtree2014 12 днів тому

    You're amazing, man. This has got to be so much work

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому +1

      It is indeed, but the work's been done for a while, now I'm just turning it all into videos :P

  • @siwadejpumee7399
    @siwadejpumee7399 10 днів тому

    how about the banner of war post-nerf? i tested it on warlock's ruin first boss with BoW + Syntho + 1-2 punch + tractor + shield crush, the damage is 488k per hit (244k*2). i wanna know titan grapple melee dps is still worth it or not since the grapple melee damage rotation itself is so hard to perform without making mistakes, it needs high affort but is that worth it?

  • @rightupmyalley617
    @rightupmyalley617 13 днів тому

    What's the play for witness damage on warlock and titan?

  • @alabamaman1372
    @alabamaman1372 13 днів тому +4

    Thanks for the numbers.

  • @ModularRefridgerator
    @ModularRefridgerator 13 днів тому +2

    Would MARSILION-C (hvy SOLAR gl) with envious + full court, paired with stillhunt, be better than edge transit for say witness dps?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому +1

      Potentially, will test

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 11 днів тому

      Full court only buffs the explosive portion of the GLs damage by 25%, and since marsilion is a 150rpm that means the blast radius is extremely low so full court is not as good.

  • @MrTrombonejr
    @MrTrombonejr 13 днів тому

    What would be the best option to pair with cloudstrike for a longer dmg phase i.e. the witness? My choices are auto loading full court/EL/cascade wendigo or recon EL crux termination (no wolfpack).

  • @Shiroyasha830
    @Shiroyasha830 13 днів тому

    so for warlock and titans we do cloudstrike and crux termination/wendigo or should we go still hunt and apex rotation? Also can bns edge transit with still hunt swap but with full void surge be better on titan or warlocks compared to still hunt and apex combo?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому +1

      I'll test rotations specifically later this season but Apex's better perks might outweigh the decision

    • @Shiroyasha830
      @Shiroyasha830 13 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic Thank you brother

  • @fieryflame6676
    @fieryflame6676 13 днів тому

    These videos really help put things into mathematical perspective. Thanks for the work you do, although gruelling.

  • @KrachBone
    @KrachBone 11 днів тому

    ive been using my legendary blast furnace over outbreak, and it is amazing. curious what the dps would be. my roll is frenzy kinetic tremors with a 60 rnd mg

  • @targa9932001
    @targa9932001 10 днів тому

    How do you get the DPS values and percentages showing during the encounter at the bottom of the screen in white font?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому

      Destiny Damage Tracker (A2TC)

    • @liamwilliamson7694
      @liamwilliamson7694 7 днів тому

      ​@TheAegisRelic do you have a video showing how to set that up?

  • @rigoFGC1
    @rigoFGC1 13 днів тому +11

    Nice to see that Thunderlord is still the highest DPS option with all these amazing options available now. Great testing!

  • @luk4aaaa
    @luk4aaaa 13 днів тому +4

    my goat is back with more funny numbers so I can pretend to know what I'm doing

  • @stephenbean1264
    @stephenbean1264 13 днів тому +3

    I THOUGHT I WAS AWAKE BUT THEN AEGIS UPLOADED. NOW IM AWAKE 🔥🔥🔥

  • @TheLegoPro154
    @TheLegoPro154 9 днів тому

    You are seriously a godsend to the community bro. Such an underrated channel. Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @blueknightcraze6766
    @blueknightcraze6766 13 днів тому

    For summum bonum is that assuming chaos reshaped is already at x2 at the start of dps? Does chaos reshaped work like shot caller did in pantheon where you can hit something while its immune to get it going before dps phase starts?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      Yes, and it works on any damage received/given so you just need to be in combat

  • @Drewski024
    @Drewski024 11 днів тому

    Great video!! Thanks for the work bro!!

  • @basshead993
    @basshead993 3 дні тому +1

    Where did you get a health bar overlay? I need this.

  • @moonshaunted9359
    @moonshaunted9359 13 днів тому

    Does anyone know if the new titan chest buffs grand overture missles? And if so what is that damage difference?

  • @itzcobrahands430
    @itzcobrahands430 13 днів тому +2

    One combo I've been trying is Euphony swapping to Cataphract with ALH + Cascade point. Curious on your thoughts if you've tried it. The cascade point lets you dump the mag and get back to Euphony before the spindle stacks fall off.

  • @x9x9x9x9x9
    @x9x9x9x9x9 13 днів тому

    For titan or warlock with cloudstrike what roll of wendigo are we recommending? Auto+EL or Auto+cascade?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      Auto Cascade or I believe Full Court if you value total damage

    • @x9x9x9x9x9
      @x9x9x9x9x9 12 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic Thanks!

  • @vampahh1171
    @vampahh1171 10 днів тому

    Random question but you mentioned star eaters nova bomb, is that actually better than star eaters needle storm?

    • @vampahh1171
      @vampahh1171 10 днів тому

      nevermind i shoulda finished the video first lol

  • @KidneyFailure_671
    @KidneyFailure_671 13 днів тому

    Ty for the numbers again :) i can definitely speak for acrius with it's ease of use and very good damage, was doing salvations edge for the first time and everyone else was on swords while i was on acrius for herald of finality, and i was always at double the damage of everyone else at the wipe screen. I was also wondering if cloudstrike+crux with hazardous propulsion is a viable dps option for stuff like witness (im a titan main so i don't have access to celestial) and i was relieved to see you recommending it. Keep up the great work you do for this community

  • @venenuuu9957
    @venenuuu9957 11 днів тому

    Sorry for the question, but what’s the diff between burst and sustained DPS? Thanks

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому +1

      On the Sustained tab Burst is shot-to-shot and Sustained is full reserve dump

  • @alexA.7529
    @alexA.7529 13 днів тому

    What about Dragon's Breath and Scatter Signal? It's a simple swap that I do quite often in a lot of content, and I would like to know how it fares with other damage options

  • @arealphoenix9897
    @arealphoenix9897 13 днів тому +2

    Unsure how valuable this is but something I like about Euphony is that it procs cascade point in just two crits, less than one burst. I could see it making a great pairing with a cascade/bns heavy GL. I've been using it with an autoloading/cadcade Cataphract. Probably not optimal but dumping the nades with cascade gives me plenty of time to switch back to Euphony to keep the spindle damage buff going, and it makes good backup DPS once I've dumped all the nades. Double strand is nice for surges also.

  • @jayus666
    @jayus666 13 днів тому +3

    He's officially done it, now I don't need another Aztecross video for 6 months😂

  • @shathieash7067
    @shathieash7067 13 днів тому +4

    Would you mind testing Microcosm + Hazardous Propulsion? If you have a Song of Flame warlock alongside you, you pretty much have 100% uptime on your Thruster, and you can stack the rockets really quickly with Microcosm. I've been using it for Witness DPS, and it's a pretty easy-to-use option that can still pump out huge numbers.

  • @willphelps40
    @willphelps40 13 днів тому +1

    Appreciate you. Excited for your thoughts on Song of Flame, star eater Song of Flame, and Song of Flame with a demo GL/rocket.

  • @ActionJacksonDavis
    @ActionJacksonDavis 13 днів тому

    Love the work you do, thanks for everything you provide the Destiny community.❤

  • @aChaomein
    @aChaomein 11 днів тому

    If you’re in a solo situation trying to get boss kills in less phases, is it dps or total damage you want? Trying to “farm”Warlords Ruin and sometimes I don’t wanna LFG and am fine with less drops

    • @hunterfj0428
      @hunterfj0428 10 днів тому

      It really depends. If you have a 5 second damage window dps would be better. If you have time to burn all of your ammo then total damage is what you want. It really depends on the damage phase there is no correct answer here.

  • @General_Genius
    @General_Genius 12 днів тому

    Great video. Cant wait to see if OG Verity options can still beat prismatic Veritys (Inmost light/Apotheosis/...). Especially without the teammate buff on the Spirits

  • @Scryllix
    @Scryllix 2 дні тому +1

    Let's go I don't have to think now. Tysm cutie

  • @xTheLostLegendx
    @xTheLostLegendx 13 днів тому +1

    is vorpal still bugged when you swap the weapon? also Levi is still fps bug boosted

  • @CrimsonHeroes
    @CrimsonHeroes 13 днів тому

    The shatter damage from glacial quake on prismatic with star eaters is so good it’s funny

  • @mango2538
    @mango2538 12 днів тому

    What plugin is that for the damage number below the boss?

  • @califkids3
    @califkids3 13 днів тому

    How does microcosm fair on bosses that it deals bonus damage to? (Does it even deal actual bonus damage to those bosses like the witness?)

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому +1

      It doesn't deal bonus damage to any significant bosses besides the Dual Destiny subjugators

  • @darthnater6204
    @darthnater6204 12 днів тому

    As I don’t play anymore it is very interesting how the game has evolved thank you Aegis

  • @KryptOKnight184
    @KryptOKnight184 10 днів тому +1

    maybe this is just really, really bad but what does Tessellation's grenade shot w/ Song of Flame look like?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  9 днів тому

      It's not great haha you can see Tessellation swap DPS in the spreadsheet

  • @ruijikisu
    @ruijikisu 8 днів тому

    im interested how surge matching affects lucky pants
    i always wanted to use wardens law with microcosm to surge match, but i wonder how that compares to something like a vorpal Trust with dragons breath, or erianas with apex
    it seems like wardens is still the best legend lucky pants option, better than malf without taken buff even, but even you do, malf can never match surges with another weapon and erianas can, but takes the exotic slot too

  • @chungo2548
    @chungo2548 13 днів тому

    The nice part with euphony though is that its a special weapon with good damage but its also really good at clearing rooms with a semi decent strand/prismatic build if you build into threadlings a bit so the damage is more of a secondary part of it imo. Also just looks sick.

  • @strippelhoff4898
    @strippelhoff4898 13 днів тому

    crazy work dude

  • @joesaunders84
    @joesaunders84 13 днів тому

    Aegis in your opinion whats the best dps option for trio planets got 1 hunter with still hunt nighthawk and 2 warlocks? Mainly the warlocks

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      Probably two SES Novas I would imagine, maybe Cascade GLs?

    • @joesaunders84
      @joesaunders84 12 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic thanks will be our first trio if we can figure it out and we got hard dps checked on our last attempt

  • @iKnownot999
    @iKnownot999 12 днів тому

    Im suspectjng this is a no, but ill ask anyway, given that casting well converts casters damage to super damage, would star eaters have an effect on that damage?
    (I know well doesnt appear on prismatic so its impossible [for now])

    • @hunterfj0428
      @hunterfj0428 10 днів тому

      It really depends on the way it is coded but I would imagine it would work with well based off the fact that novabomb is buffed even after your super is over.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому +1

      Nah I'll explain in the next video

  • @arshmakhi9721
    @arshmakhi9721 13 днів тому +1

    Ergo Soom and Ty for the video!

  • @TheHelpMaster
    @TheHelpMaster 13 днів тому

    How did you manage to get the Counter for the DMG dealt on the bottom?

    • @ItsMeStompy
      @ItsMeStompy 13 днів тому

      I think my comment got deleted due to a link to one of his videos but its a program made by Corolla to look at the health bar for damage as its more reliable for actual damage done.
      Ageis talks about the program in his "Destiny 2: Effective Damage Testing" video at 3:21.

  • @smartyuno
    @smartyuno 13 днів тому

    Is cascade bait not really useful? I sharded my envious bait edge and really don’t want to have to go back and get envious bait

    • @postmental_thoughts
      @postmental_thoughts 13 днів тому

      envious is much better for dumping which is kinda the goal with heavy gls atm. cascade isn't terrible but isnt as good overall unless you are doing a proper dps rotation.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      Only for high burst scenarios

  • @Lolbsterbiscuit
    @Lolbsterbiscuit 13 днів тому

    How does Hazardous Propulsion impact heavy/special use cases and decision making? Would hazardous make something like indebted kindness or the new solar rocket sidearm more valuable as a special than a 4ttc sniper for example?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому +1

      It doesn't

    • @Lolbsterbiscuit
      @Lolbsterbiscuit 12 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic I figured as much, the rocket sidearms can only be so good at so many things

  • @barneymiller1117
    @barneymiller1117 6 днів тому

    is cloudstrike or izagani's a better dps option for oryx?

  • @ItsMrYG
    @ItsMrYG 5 днів тому

    How does Revision Zero sit in DPS with Vorpal and/or FTTC vs other primaries?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  3 дні тому

      Added, making a short soon

    • @ItsMrYG
      @ItsMrYG 3 дні тому

      @@TheAegisRelic I really do appreciate all the hard work you do, man. Thanks for the reply!

  • @grenade_37
    @grenade_37 11 днів тому

    Dude your vids are amazing thak you so much !
    I still have a quick : What do you recommend to supplement the dps of a (Titan) Tractor user ? Preferably in slot 1. I'm using Scater signal with Overflow and Controled Burst, but i wonder if there's anything beter i can use

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому

      That's a good starting choice, double sniper or double slug are also fine

    • @grenade_37
      @grenade_37 10 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic i'm affraid i'll struggle with no primary

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому

      You can run rocket sidearm until damage then swap

    • @grenade_37
      @grenade_37 10 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic oh yeah okay, thanks dude!

  • @lizard2361
    @lizard2361 13 днів тому

    Man you are amazing love your content keep it up❤

  • @aeveryhawk3036
    @aeveryhawk3036 13 днів тому +2

    really early into the video still but I'm happy to see that lost signal is competitive with witherhoard

  • @xblp2
    @xblp2 13 днів тому +9

    kneel for the king

    • @slime_ism
      @slime_ism 13 днів тому

      tongue out or nah

  • @dustin_echoes
    @dustin_echoes 13 днів тому

    What's my best option if I just want a lazy easy but consistent dps option?

    • @pupperaccino
      @pupperaccino 13 днів тому

      The absolute laziest you can get while still doing alright dmg is Microcosm. The *only* thing you have to worry about is using an instant cast super/dmg super (which you're probably doing anyway) before you start shooting in order to get the 20% dmg buff. Very small thing to do each time that doesn't take effort.

  • @Tigerbro6
    @Tigerbro6 13 днів тому

    any chance you could do a test with hazardous with the many rockets in the game?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      No need it's just a 35% buff same as Lumina so same numbers as here

  • @TheGigaMan
    @TheGigaMan 11 днів тому

    How do you get the boss health % and number at the bottom during that Templar DPS? Or is that a spreadsheet overlay post processing?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому +1

      Destiny Damage Tracker (A2TC)

    • @TheGigaMan
      @TheGigaMan 10 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic thank you so much for the reply I'll look into it!
      How safe is this to use in terms of Bungie TOS and EULA, Battleye Anti-Cheat etc?
      Thanks again!

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  9 днів тому +1

      I mean it's just a visual overlay that doesn't read memory or anything, it just looks at the bottom part of your screen and counts orange pixels haha

    • @TheGigaMan
      @TheGigaMan 8 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic Ahhhh thanks for the clarification!
      I thought it reads the memory or injects into the Traffic stream, thank you again for your reply and help and all your videos, huge fan, even though I don't subscribe to most content creators I do appreciate what you do!

  • @BuckShot456789
    @BuckShot456789 13 днів тому +37

    I still hate how Bungie robbed Two Tailed as a viable DPS option when they changed the RoF for the catys 3rd rocket. Most exotics get their 15 minutes of fame, but Two Tailed only got 5 and it was unjustifiable for a change as drastic as that. Can you imagine the rocket meta with Gally, DBreath, Apex, Crux and TTF swap rotations? It would have been pure bliss. Especially with TTF applying void weaken or suppression effects just by using it with certain artifact mods.
    Im not a huge stan of TTF but i will always back it when i say that Bungie dropped the bag with the change they gave it. Think Anakin not being a master levels of disappointment and frustration.

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 13 днів тому +17

      The real nail in the coffin was when they standardized all jolt values so TTFs Jolt no longer did more than other sources

    • @ginjadingo2941
      @ginjadingo2941 13 днів тому

      @@warv6552so ttf is useless?😔

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 13 днів тому +1

      @@ginjadingo2941 Yeah the jolt went from like around 17,000 damage to around 4,000 which is a 76% nerf. And since it’s dps was lower than legendary rockets, that jolt was the only reason to use it in endgame content.

    • @BuckShot456789
      @BuckShot456789 13 днів тому +1

      @warv6552 Back when the caty first dropped and people put in the grind to unlock and use it, TTF was putting up some competitive numbers, despite the jolt being out of band. It was just as easy to use as any other rocket, and if you used strand grenades that by-passed the reload, which most people were doing with gally swaps and legendary rockets to begin with. That Thump-Thump TTF had knowing you sent a 3rd rocket for extra damage was bliss. Now it's Thump-Thump-Thump, which tanks the RoF and DPS. It was so sad of a change.

    • @warv6552
      @warv6552 13 днів тому +1

      @@BuckShot456789 Without the extra damage jolt it’s damage couldn’t really compare to pack Hunter lengdaries. It’s only real place was in niche solo situations like Solo prophecy speedrun on Kell Echo esp since the season that they nerfed jolt was the same season Apex Predator got refreshed and basically made every other rocket irrelevant, as well as them changing surge mods so that 3x void weapon boosts no longer benefited all 3 rockets essentially meant TTF had 1 single season where it was a competitive damage option. By the time they changed the fire rate it was basically already dead but apparently they thought it needed another nerf so now it’s dead.

  • @SirGjallarhorn
    @SirGjallarhorn 13 днів тому

    Does this means should I use Cloudstrike+ Heavy GL to do DPS as a Warlock? With Rain of Fire or Strand+ Apotheosis? (I don’t have Final Shape)

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому

      You can yes

    • @SirGjallarhorn
      @SirGjallarhorn 13 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic would that be a good dmg/dps rotation for Warlock? Or rockets+Izanagui is better right now? I wonder because I’ve been lost in damage this season because of the Light level changes

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      They're both fine but Cloud+HGL/Crux would be better for total damage

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  12 днів тому

      Cloudstrike/Crux or Wendigo would be better total but Izi rocket is fine for burst

    • @SirGjallarhorn
      @SirGjallarhorn 12 днів тому

      @@TheAegisRelic I’ll try cloudstrike/Edge transit in my next raid run, thank you

  • @noazrky
    @noazrky 13 днів тому

    Does Hazardous Propulsion make enough difference in the Grand Overture calculations to do anything?

  • @charlie-vw7zw
    @charlie-vw7zw 13 днів тому +2

    Pack Hunter also makes proc'ing Attrition Orbs easier, I was making orbs nonstop at Herald

  • @brettonlewis
    @brettonlewis 13 днів тому

    Any idea why making a copy is denied?

  • @aidamfor
    @aidamfor 11 днів тому +1

    Why are the colors inverted?

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  10 днів тому

      Dark mode extension since Google Docs doesn't have native dark mode on desktop yet :D

  • @flxmez2754
    @flxmez2754 13 днів тому

    Enjoyed the streams about some things in this video and you cutting it during SE practice, keep up the good work G. You’re cooking hard!🫶🏼

  • @ssynths
    @ssynths 13 днів тому

    has anyone tried one person on blight ranger with the other 5 on nighthawk still hunt? would be a little silly but I want to see it

  • @lewismcdowall9873
    @lewismcdowall9873 13 днів тому

    Holy wowza all that stream time coming together to make one saucy dmg explanation papa aegis is spoiling me today

  • @Shhimhiding
    @Shhimhiding 12 днів тому

    How do we get the numbers for boss health in our games?

  • @Weebfox
    @Weebfox 13 днів тому

    Im less excited for christmas than these, bless 🙏

  • @Gunnar120
    @Gunnar120 13 днів тому

    I have a sword combo that I dont see on the spreadsheet that consistently dumps more damage more quickly than my buddy using Bequest.
    Throne Cleaver
    Enhanced Duelists Trance
    Enhanced Surrounded
    Lucent Blade×2
    Heavy Reserves
    1H2L
    Has this been trsted?

  • @RBF__
    @RBF__ 13 днів тому +5

    wow! I love airgow soom!

  • @Cpt.Wakeus
    @Cpt.Wakeus 8 днів тому

    Have you tested dropping pyrozoa on a boss?

  • @sciji3118
    @sciji3118 13 днів тому

    Aegis, Can you test the new Suspectum stasis linear fusion with enhanced envious and fourth times for total damage or enhanced Firing line for burst? Something like that if u get one anyways?

    • @pupperaccino
      @pupperaccino 13 днів тому

      Envious Assassin does not pair well with Fourth Time's the charm due to FTTC not being able to put bullets in a mag that is overflowed, so that's out of the picture. And even if you could, not having any dmg perks on Linear's already piss poor dmg profile is not going to make it usable over anything.
      Firing Line is just strictly worse than the other dmg perks we have on better linears, being 10% worse than BnS or 17% less than Enhanced Surrounded.

    • @TheAegisRelic
      @TheAegisRelic  13 днів тому

      Not really worth testing imo