Still Hunt's performance almost doubling, going from 2.19m to 4.3m on Hunter is wild. Even if we take off the Nighthawk shot for parity (600k) it would still be 3.7m, about a 70% increase.
@@oneshot1kill158 No I mean I literally took the Nighthawk Golden Gun super's damage off the damage total. The Warlock test only used the gun for damage while the Hunter test started with a damaging super.
@@patrickoakley7890 for real dude at this point I'm convinced it's youtubers alt accounts or they want to get pinned to get some form of recognition or attention they don't get at home. So weird lmao. Also weird that the tubers pin it to as if to say "Hey everyone look at how much people love me!"
@@LlamaD2 just wondering if there’s something I’m missing. You mentioned the strand dmg would be inflated due to surge, but you didn’t mention the same for solar damage. When you pulled out your ghost towards the beginning it showed a solar surge as well so I guess the real number for 4.3 mil still hunt hunter would actually be 3.2 mil if we remove the solar surge. Just wondering if there was a reason why you didn’t also mention an inflated number for solar like you did with strand or maybe I missed it?
I think euphony is probably a great choice to swap to for longer dps phases/final stands where you've already spent all your still hunt ammo, you can just run the call or something beforehand and loadout swap i think
Double special where one is your add clear and the other is for dps will cost you a ton of ammo for dps. Your second special will drain most your ammo for it. Better too use outbreak or lucky pants with still Hunt.
@@ADreadBellow on witness you can literally use an lmg, still hunt singlehandedly carries dps, and rocket sidearms are also incredibly ammo efficient so this point does not stick
@@ADreadBellow This would typically make more sense with that double special heavy ammo effect they nerfed way back, but lead from gold on at least 1 of your two special weapons, along with even a single Aeons present makes this nerf so insignificant it's not even a concern.
@@RequiemL34 even during contest mode people had to throttle their DPS to not enter final stand too early. the real DPS check was surviving during DPS phase, not actually doing the damage
the funny part about this is that prismatic warlocks can get apotheosis and star eaters on their class item alone so theres even more damage potential there
@@lamp6381have you seen prismatic hunter? Every melee gives healing, resto + recup on dodge, stupid amounts of damage resistance from amplified, 100 resil and facet of resistance, all without designated exotic. If you're dying on prismatic hunter youre doing something wrong
For the Ager's scepter, it may be even better to run it on a prismatic subclass, since it can benefit from both Facet of command (reload on freeze) and facet of ruin (more shatter damage). That should allow you to fire off significantly more without even depending on Cenotaph, all while doing more shatter damage on top of that.
Nice of you to test the warlock wxcljsive dps rotation introduced this season and the hunter exclusive dps rotation this season and the titan- oh wait…
@@LaFlamaBlanca757 not in the future! Bungie said on their reddit account that they're looking to fix that interaction so that the 35% buff takes priority
No offense but the div is such a bad way to test this because with the cataclysmic you hit for 20k like 5 times when you should be hitting for 100k+ on the body shot, not to mention it also keeps breaking, maybe just go for the crit
"Euphony laughing in DPS until the Scintillation comes striding in." - internet, 2024 I'll probably use both no matter the DPS, but still worth knowing should I learn any Hunter DPS setups. Cheers for the comparisons!
6:40 just wanna put out a friendly reminder, Kinetic weapons (unless it's only when Overcharged is a modifier) gain a damage buff equal to that of a Surge if your Subclass (maybe linked to Super now?) matches that of the active Surge(s).
Bungie: “yea wells are too strong” Also Bungie: “here’s a special weapon that on its own with no supplements besides celestial nighthawk which you can hot swap too that can hit over 4 million damage on its own.”
Correction: Kinetic Surges exist in activities. Kinetic weapons do increased damage when your super element matches an active surge. If there is a solar surge and you put on Song of Flame, microcosm would benefit from the surge damage.
Triple solar surge works for still hunt. Not super but for the sniper. Also your radiant is running out so if you throw some knives in the mid you can get it going again
When over changed weapons modifier is active, (master raids and GM's), when your subclass matches a surge, kinetic weapons also get the 25% over charge buff.
I think Ager's Sceptre could have done a little more damage with the Whisper of Fissures fragment (increased size and damage of Stasis shatters), but it probably still wouldn't be enough to contend with the other weapons. Nice video dude :)
You screwed up the numbers on euphony very hard by using divinity. Div is notoriously awful on greg as it is very easy to clip his fat ogre body instead of the cage. This means you were missing many precision shots that wouldve been more representative of total euphony damage
its better than any other linier but then aynthing in this dlc is better .give it 6 months once sales drop then they,ll nerf everything including prismatic .thats the bungie way .remember stasis on launch lol yeh look at it now .not used stasis in a year or 2 but its still my highest kill count thats how strong it was
From the damage tests we can agree that the heavy LFRs especially precision frames need their damage buffed. Because in the current sandbox, whisper of the worm is a better LFR than the actual ones and with introduction of Euphony and Still Hunt makes them even more obsolete.
@@somebodythatididntusetoknow No I meant WotW deals better sustained damage compared to the LFRs which is the one thing they should excel in. You could use cataclysmic on Oryx for example but WotW give better result for much less effort.
my guy when you were doing euphony rotation with warlock 40% of all damage you did with euphony was body shots not precision shots, shot for his head like you did with still hunt otherwise your not testing them equally
crazy combo, only got even better with pris warlock with the new class items, this on top of the apoth and star eater combo with the class would absolutely cook
Is there a reason you stil use wipe screen numbers instead of counting the pixels on the health bar? We've known for a long time that wipe screen numbers are inaccurate.
It’s better to put on one solar auto loading then switch to a reconstruction rocket with explosive light so once you shoot the golden gun switch to rocket dump the 2 and by the time u go back it’s fully loaded it’s more optimal without extra reloads
I think Euphony will shine beautifully with Needlestorm and the Apotheosis/Star-Eater class item combo. Use the higher damage super, then blast with Euphony while spamming Threadling grenades for 10 seconds.
7:07 so since the final shape launched Bungie has had a relatively dependable game pattern of having kinetic surge in all activities that feature activity surges but don’t feature darkness surges. The modifier will say something like “if your equipped super matches one of the elemental surges your kinetic weapons will do increased damage.” EDIT: so I’m actually not 100% sure this modifier released with final shape, I just don’t remember it not being in the final shape if that makes sense
Hey Llama, I cooked up a dps rotation for warlock using a primary, Still Hunt, Apex Predator with recon/bns, and Rain of fire boots: Use goldy, 3 regular snipes, primary bullet, 2 rockets, icarus, rocket, 3 snipes, repeat
6:55 Isn't there something about using a subclass matching the surge to overcharge your kinetic weapons giving it the same bonus as a surge? Or is this only on strikes/gms? Cause I'm pretty sure this exists somewhere
Something to keep in mind for Euphony is you can make builds that exponentially speed up the stacking to x25, AND for multiple Euphony users you'll all stack at the same rate to x25 including if even one of you makes a dedicated build (osmio/apotheosis + star eater warlock using Strand super and threadling grenade will get to x25 in less than 5 seconds)
Hey Llama would you be willing to test out an optimal rotation with star eaters nova bomb (facet of courage/weaken) + facet of command edge transit? Idk if it will beat out still hunt but timing facet of command freezes/suppresses correctly you can empty your heavy reserves without reloading . I hit a nova bomb for 815k in a quick test on the ogre which out damages a nighthawk so I’m interested to see.
@@LlamaD2yeah I figured to include the 15% weaken in my test as it’s something you will pretty much always get in that rotation from either your vortex nade or the prismatic nade. Usually use my vortex before damage to throw out a bleak watcher for constant freezes though.
MAN I knew Still Hunt cooked, but i didnt know it cooked THAT HARD ALONE, thats absolutely NUTS 😂😂 I DEFINITELY know what character and class ill be bringing to The Witness's door if I'm able to find a group 😅😅
arbalest is benefitting from the surges too i believe because kinetic weapons get surged when your super matches the surges, which it did in your case. the same would then go for macrocosm
Oh you, just wait until Bungo nerfs the hell out of Still Hunt, it's way too powerful for them to ignore. Enjoy it while you can, it's gonna end up like Lorentz Driver.
@@patrickoakley7890that could be a year from now. Who cares? Guaranteed it won’t happen in the foreseeable future. And it Lorentz Driver was never great in PVE. Too much setup required.
@@patrickoakley7890yeah I honestly expect a pretty substantial nerf to the interaction between nighthawk and still hunt BUT I think they can just disable that interaction and it would be still a VERY strong pick
It's worth noting that testing Microcosm during surges is entirely plausible as kinetic damage is overcharged when your subclass/super element matches one of the surge elements. That's why kinetic surges for activities don't exist. The overcharge benefit is meant to be the same as the surge benefit.
Considering the news surges are going, all damage output is getting a 25% buff(including kinetic and abilities). That microcosm videos going to be a banger
I like to use still hunt/ apex (recon/explosive light) 2 solar surge, 1 solar holster That way when im left with 5 in the mag after still hunt super, I can swap apex and shoot 2 rockets, swap back to still hunt and be ready to fire 6 to stack caydes again. 1phasing pretty much everything lol Makes still hunt feel kind of like izinagi, but not exactly Especially good since after reloading still hunt you have that awkward hang time of around 2-3 sec before you can shoot again. But basically 1) hold reload to activate caydes 2) shuriken for radiant 3)super and shoot 4) shoot caydes we prepped before +5 shots 5) swap to rocket and shoot 2x 6) swap back to still hunt, shoot 1x 7) hold reload to pop caydes 8) repeat 4-8 using shurikens and trancendance to extend radiant. Im not saying its easy, but im seeing 6m+ a phase on warpriest I'd love to see someone better than me pull it off to full potential
@@fleefie glad to hear I was on the right path. I was using marksman dodge to begin with as a safety buffer incase I missed shots or messed up the order Switched now to radiant dodge as confidence increased.
Thanks for the comparison between the two, quite insightful to see side by side. While Still Hunt is undoubtedly the best DPS especially on Celestial Nighthawk, I felt it was mildly unfair in the DPS comparison since with Still Hunt you were aiming at his face which is much easier to hit crits than a Divinity Bubble being covered by his stomach when you were using the Euphony. With the amount of missed crits on Euphony I'd say you would be up about 200-250k bringing it slightly closer albeit it marginally closer to Still Hunt.
The Still Hunt rotation could be a little quicker DPS if you empty out the mag before activating Cayde’s Retribution. That lets you get more damage in before Retribution refills the magazine
Would love you see you test the new warlock super w/ a demo BnS rocket (the nades from the super remote the rocket) I got some INSANE damage with that combo on Greg earlier - side note: ember of ashes improved the damage by a lot
Llama Also note when u rally u get full Cades Retri so u should be able to pop Golden Gun + the second Still hunt Golden before going into the Sniper rotation
Why did you aim for the head with still hunt but everything else was super inconsistent shots on the div bubble? Not saying it would have warped the order of the results but it would have made the others perform a lot better than what you showed here
I just want to point out that you were shooting his actual crit during the 3mil still hunt rotation and that does a little more damage than shooting the div bubble
llama, is the kinetic weapon damage boost earned from matching your subclass to the current surge modifier not working with microcosm? Seems like microcosm wouldn’t shift in viability compared to the pack on weeks where the meta subclasses match the surge.
@@cur1ous238 At max stacks enhanced precision instrument is the same damage buff (30%) as B&S, and it only takes 3 shots (I guess 9 technically) to hit this cap
Also I'm curious how much damage you'll do with song of flame and the still hunt or Microchosm since it causes both solar and kinetic weapons to apply scorch.
Titans sitting quietly in the Conner with a melee hammer
Titan bashin loudly with still hunt and rocket launcher stpd kid
Still Hunt's performance almost doubling, going from 2.19m to 4.3m on Hunter is wild. Even if we take off the Nighthawk shot for parity (600k) it would still be 3.7m, about a 70% increase.
Still Hunt compared to DARCI is a goddamned crime
Mostly because the ammo count. Nighthawk give you 1 shot and then you have 5 shot to charge it back up while other class only have 3 before reload
i think your math is fucked up here, no nighthalk means its the same as other classes. meaning the same as his warlock run
@@oneshot1kill158 No I mean I literally took the Nighthawk Golden Gun super's damage off the damage total. The Warlock test only used the gun for damage while the Hunter test started with a damaging super.
@SuperBeanSquad night hawk effects the gun as well bruh
Imma keep it real with you idgaf what you upload i just appreciate the energy you exude and will watch
Thank you for leaving such a lovely comment!
@@LlamaD2ion even play destiny no more but your the goat so idc 😤😤😊
tf are you talking about
The glazing is out of control in UA-cam comments, holy moly.
@@patrickoakley7890 for real dude at this point I'm convinced it's youtubers alt accounts or they want to get pinned to get some form of recognition or attention they don't get at home. So weird lmao. Also weird that the tubers pin it to as if to say "Hey everyone look at how much people love me!"
Can we say we are in a special dps meta?
Cause imagine 5 still hunts hunters or 5 euphony warlocks will go absolutely bonkers.
I do think so!
we got a 2 phase on witness last night with 5x still hunt we're pretty retarded
Sad titan noises
@@dankplagueis9253what about Propulsion? Overhyped?
@@LlamaD2 just wondering if there’s something I’m missing. You mentioned the strand dmg would be inflated due to surge, but you didn’t mention the same for solar damage. When you pulled out your ghost towards the beginning it showed a solar surge as well so I guess the real number for 4.3 mil still hunt hunter would actually be 3.2 mil if we remove the solar surge. Just wondering if there was a reason why you didn’t also mention an inflated number for solar like you did with strand or maybe I missed it?
I think euphony is probably a great choice to swap to for longer dps phases/final stands where you've already spent all your still hunt ammo, you can just run the call or something beforehand and loadout swap i think
Actually sounds like a good idea!
@@LlamaD2 i believe this was the strat for trio and duo witness for final stand, just hotswap to euphony, pick up ammo and go
Double special where one is your add clear and the other is for dps will cost you a ton of ammo for dps. Your second special will drain most your ammo for it. Better too use outbreak or lucky pants with still Hunt.
@@ADreadBellow on witness you can literally use an lmg, still hunt singlehandedly carries dps, and rocket sidearms are also incredibly ammo efficient so this point does not stick
@@ADreadBellow This would typically make more sense with that double special heavy ammo effect they nerfed way back, but lead from gold on at least 1 of your two special weapons, along with even a single Aeons present makes this nerf so insignificant it's not even a concern.
damn i did not realize still hunt cooked that hard
Was what achived the world's first and only 24 hours between clear of salvation's edge (the witness was a nasty dps check I heard).
@@RequiemL34 not so much a dps check as it is tryna telegraph and move through the damage phase without 2 people dying
@@Ghxst_2023 during contest mode
@@RequiemL34 even during contest mode people had to throttle their DPS to not enter final stand too early. the real DPS check was surviving during DPS phase, not actually doing the damage
@@RequiemL34it wasn’t a damage check at all it was more of surviving
Llama: "Yeah, I'm sure surges are sticking around."
Bungie: Is that a challenge?
I think they're gonna need to nerf Titan again after this
Agreed
Of course! (Bane voice)
They pretty much did considering we found out that the rocket exotic is not going to stack with radiant but rather override it.
@@RetroTSSoSshould probably reword that, it’s going to be overridden by radiant. So instead of 35% it goes to 25%.
The only Herald of Finality solo is on a titan as it's only possible to output the required damage on a Titan.
I have been addicted to strand warlock since Lightfall came out, I havent wanted a raid exotic this bad in awhile, looks so fun
It's really good im so happy i got it on my 2nd try
me too bro... me too
the funny part about this is that prismatic warlocks can get apotheosis and star eaters on their class item alone so theres even more damage potential there
Still won’t beat hunter with a steel hunt apex rotation.
@@Lachlan_McDougall yes I know, but Hunter also doesn’t have the survivability that warlock has
@@lamp6381have you seen prismatic hunter? Every melee gives healing, resto + recup on dodge, stupid amounts of damage resistance from amplified, 100 resil and facet of resistance, all without designated exotic. If you're dying on prismatic hunter youre doing something wrong
@@Toxxicqt and yet, every Hunter still begs for well, song of flame, or the speaker helmet
@@lamp6381 maybe you’re playing with trash team mates 👀
For the Ager's scepter, it may be even better to run it on a prismatic subclass, since it can benefit from both Facet of command (reload on freeze) and facet of ruin (more shatter damage). That should allow you to fire off significantly more without even depending on Cenotaph, all while doing more shatter damage on top of that.
Don't kinetic weapons benefit from surges when your equipped subclass matches the surge?
Believe that is what it says on one of the surge/overcharged tool tip when you hover over it.
Yes but not in raids/dungeons
It's only from the overcharged weapons modifier
Nice of you to test the warlock wxcljsive dps rotation introduced this season and the hunter exclusive dps rotation this season and the titan- oh wait…
Titans crying in the corner rn lmao
@@LlamaD2 hey we got a rocket chest! That… gets overridden by the easiest to pass buff in the game 😢
@@LaFlamaBlanca757 not in the future! Bungie said on their reddit account that they're looking to fix that interaction so that the 35% buff takes priority
@@ytiev1486 that’s awesome really. Was pretty disappointed when I found out.
@@LlamaD2 The titan rotation is actually kinda simple. All you gotta do is go to ESC -> Change Character
No offense but the div is such a bad way to test this because with the cataclysmic you hit for 20k like 5 times when you should be hitting for 100k+ on the body shot, not to mention it also keeps breaking, maybe just go for the crit
bro did not just say "you could be hitting for 100k+ on the body shot"
"Euphony laughing in DPS until the Scintillation comes striding in." - internet, 2024
I'll probably use both no matter the DPS, but still worth knowing should I learn any Hunter DPS setups.
Cheers for the comparisons!
Microcosm in Ghost of the Deep with someone else breaking the shield with Arbalest to proc the Disruption Break buff would cook
Try an Apex Predator Stillhunt hunter rotation. I had a teamate do nearly 9 million on a two phase witness
Saving this for an updated optimal rotations video!
Was your teammate using bipod or bait n switch?
that is only possible this 'season' because of fragments/prismatic shenanigans (and with """"bad"""" teammates)
Prismatic subclass with threaded spike and facet of courage will increase dps too
Check out Chicken SI-2. He has already made a video about this rotation with Explosive Light Apex and Still Hunt.
Bro on the second euphony test u missed so many crits I'm deadge
6:40 just wanna put out a friendly reminder, Kinetic weapons (unless it's only when Overcharged is a modifier) gain a damage buff equal to that of a Surge if your Subclass (maybe linked to Super now?) matches that of the active Surge(s).
they don't in raids and dungeons until next update
Wouldn’t no as 90% of community doesn’t have euphony so this vid is pointless
Bungie: “yea wells are too strong”
Also Bungie: “here’s a special weapon that on its own with no supplements besides celestial nighthawk which you can hot swap too that can hit over 4 million damage on its own.”
still hunt rotation: I'm about to end this mans whole career
Correction: Kinetic Surges exist in activities. Kinetic weapons do increased damage when your super element matches an active surge. If there is a solar surge and you put on Song of Flame, microcosm would benefit from the surge damage.
Still hunt still the DPS king 🤷🤷
Kinetic weapons do get a surge if your super matches the surge type
Theres other Exotics besides Khovostov?!
Good vid
I feel like they made still hunt for celestial nighthawk hunter, and euphony for strand threadling warlocks .....and then titans just punch crap 😅
dont kinetic weapons get surge buffs if your subclass is matching?
it’s not better than golden gun hunter and still hunt, but for a warlock class it is
Triple solar surge works for still hunt. Not super but for the sniper. Also your radiant is running out so if you throw some knives in the mid you can get it going again
All we need now is a heavy witherhoard
When over changed weapons modifier is active, (master raids and GM's), when your subclass matches a surge, kinetic weapons also get the 25% over charge buff.
Microcosm
Great video Llama🎉 wished you on good health and keep good posting brother 👏🏻👍🏻
i hope i was a good div 🙏
The best.
does Microcosm benefit from surges when your subclass matches? like with normal kinetics?
if ur super matches the surge of the activity then microcosm gets the surge bonus i heard?
I think Ager's Sceptre could have done a little more damage with the Whisper of Fissures fragment (increased size and damage of Stasis shatters), but it probably still wouldn't be enough to contend with the other weapons. Nice video dude :)
You screwed up the numbers on euphony very hard by using divinity. Div is notoriously awful on greg as it is very easy to clip his fat ogre body instead of the cage. This means you were missing many precision shots that wouldve been more representative of total euphony damage
Use facet of command with stasis turrets to full dump merciless all in 1 go
I wonder how much harder last encounter of day 1 would've been if still hunt didn't have the celestial synergy.
its better than any other linier but then aynthing in this dlc is better .give it 6 months once sales drop then they,ll nerf everything including prismatic .thats the bungie way .remember stasis on launch lol yeh look at it now .not used stasis in a year or 2 but its still my highest kill count thats how strong it was
From the damage tests we can agree that the heavy LFRs especially precision frames need their damage buffed. Because in the current sandbox, whisper of the worm is a better LFR than the actual ones and with introduction of Euphony and Still Hunt makes them even more obsolete.
did you actually want to refer to thousand voices? WotW is the sniper
@@somebodythatididntusetoknow No I meant WotW deals better sustained damage compared to the LFRs which is the one thing they should excel in. You could use cataclysmic on Oryx for example but WotW give better result for much less effort.
my guy when you were doing euphony rotation with warlock 40% of all damage you did with euphony was body shots not precision shots, shot for his head like you did with still hunt otherwise your not testing them equally
Does the Warlock exotic legs not synergize w Euphony?
So like is there literally no options for Titan 😅 I’m honestly not sure what to use for the witness
You get kinetic surges if your super is one of the surge elements
Still hunt gunu be in next weeks patch notes 😂😂
What singe was up that day and have you used surge mods?
Imagine if you had the exotic bond on warlock with the star eater perk to buff your needlestorm much more
Try Ager's with facet of command
Also, try rotating an auto loading rocket with still hunt
Maybe mountaintop auto loading too?
wtf merciless? o.O
Bungie: something is wrong, i can feel it.
Yeahhh... Still Hunt nerf incoming. Lets be real, the CN GG shot shouldn't be doing more damage than an actual CN GG, even with surges.
I mean there are surges for tracerifles in the rotation and when we get anti champion tracerifle in the artifact microcosm can be used
Weekly surges affecting the dmg results aswell?
Nerf incoming.. sadly we’re not allowed fun says Bungie
As a titan main we are so cooked 🥲
crazy combo, only got even better with pris warlock with the new class items, this on top of the apoth and star eater combo with the class would absolutely cook
this just goes to show that still hunt needs a massive nerf when paired with celestial
Why aren’t the surge numbers being adjusted to non surge? Euphony would only be around 1.5 Mil no?
Wow. Make it an apex rotation and surely Greg dies
Could use a demo rocket whilst ur throwing all those threadling grenades. Unless the perk doesn’t proc when it’s stowed
Is there a reason you stil use wipe screen numbers instead of counting the pixels on the health bar? We've known for a long time that wipe screen numbers are inaccurate.
Use solar autoloading with rocket launcher.... Could be better
Celestial Still Hunt is truly insane lol. Let's nerf Lament again.
How happy I am to be a Main hunter.
It’s better to put on one solar auto loading then switch to a reconstruction rocket with explosive light so once you shoot the golden gun switch to rocket dump the 2 and by the time u go back it’s fully loaded it’s more optimal without extra reloads
Main wannabe-trashard better said
@@mauricioalpizarrodriguez9078what
I think Euphony will shine beautifully with Needlestorm and the Apotheosis/Star-Eater class item combo. Use the higher damage super, then blast with Euphony while spamming Threadling grenades for 10 seconds.
what's with the 2 trace rifles when doing heavy dps testing?
To proc B&S on my rocket
7:07 so since the final shape launched Bungie has had a relatively dependable game pattern of having kinetic surge in all activities that feature activity surges but don’t feature darkness surges.
The modifier will say something like “if your equipped super matches one of the elemental surges your kinetic weapons will do increased damage.”
EDIT: so I’m actually not 100% sure this modifier released with final shape, I just don’t remember it not being in the final shape if that makes sense
Hey Llama, I cooked up a dps rotation for warlock using a primary, Still Hunt, Apex Predator with recon/bns, and Rain of fire boots: Use goldy, 3 regular snipes, primary bullet, 2 rockets, icarus, rocket, 3 snipes, repeat
6:55 Isn't there something about using a subclass matching the surge to overcharge your kinetic weapons giving it the same bonus as a surge?
Or is this only on strikes/gms? Cause I'm pretty sure this exists somewhere
Something to keep in mind for Euphony is you can make builds that exponentially speed up the stacking to x25, AND for multiple Euphony users you'll all stack at the same rate to x25 including if even one of you makes a dedicated build (osmio/apotheosis + star eater warlock using Strand super and threadling grenade will get to x25 in less than 5 seconds)
7:00 most activities always have a kinetic surge if your super matches one of the surges
Yes but unfortunately this doesn't apply to raids and dungeons :/
@@LlamaD2 wait, it doesnt?! thats lame, hope they come around and remove them, together with raid and dungeon rotator
@@LlamaD2oh damn. Are you sure about that? That's unfortunate
It only applies when there is overcharge weapons modifier active
9:30 "I think surges will be sticking around, undoubtably." Welp lmao
I wonder how many contest mode completions the new raid would have if still hunt wasn’t a thing. I reckon about 50
Probably less than that.
it'd probably be the same as last wish. one.
Hey Llama would you be willing to test out an optimal rotation with star eaters nova bomb (facet of courage/weaken) + facet of command edge transit? Idk if it will beat out still hunt but timing facet of command freezes/suppresses correctly you can empty your heavy reserves without reloading . I hit a nova bomb for 815k in a quick test on the ogre which out damages a nighthawk so I’m interested to see.
I'll definitely keep this in mind because I'm planning a larger video with all sorts of rotations, so yeah probably will
@@LlamaD2yeah I figured to include the 15% weaken in my test as it’s something you will pretty much always get in that rotation from either your vortex nade or the prismatic nade.
Usually use my vortex before damage to throw out a bleak watcher for constant freezes though.
MAN
I knew Still Hunt cooked, but i didnt know it cooked THAT HARD ALONE, thats absolutely NUTS 😂😂
I DEFINITELY know what character and class ill be bringing to The Witness's door if I'm able to find a group 😅😅
arbalest is benefitting from the surges too i believe because kinetic weapons get surged when your super matches the surges, which it did in your case.
the same would then go for macrocosm
short answer: NO
long answer: NO, by a lot.
Oh you, just wait until Bungo nerfs the hell out of Still Hunt, it's way too powerful for them to ignore. Enjoy it while you can, it's gonna end up like Lorentz Driver.
@@patrickoakley7890that could be a year from now. Who cares? Guaranteed it won’t happen in the foreseeable future. And it Lorentz Driver was never great in PVE. Too much setup required.
@@patrickoakley7890yeah I honestly expect a pretty substantial nerf to the interaction between nighthawk and still hunt BUT I think they can just disable that interaction and it would be still a VERY strong pick
The answer is not yet
@@karatsukiawildfemboy2326 the answer is never. Cope. Hunters run Destiny 2.
It's worth noting that testing Microcosm during surges is entirely plausible as kinetic damage is overcharged when your subclass/super element matches one of the surge elements. That's why kinetic surges for activities don't exist. The overcharge benefit is meant to be the same as the surge benefit.
Considering the news surges are going, all damage output is getting a 25% buff(including kinetic and abilities). That microcosm videos going to be a banger
I like to use still hunt/ apex (recon/explosive light)
2 solar surge, 1 solar holster
That way when im left with 5 in the mag after still hunt super, I can swap apex and shoot 2 rockets, swap back to still hunt and be ready to fire 6 to stack caydes again.
1phasing pretty much everything lol
Makes still hunt feel kind of like izinagi, but not exactly
Especially good since after reloading still hunt you have that awkward hang time of around 2-3 sec before you can shoot again.
But basically
1) hold reload to activate caydes
2) shuriken for radiant
3)super and shoot
4) shoot caydes we prepped before +5 shots
5) swap to rocket and shoot 2x
6) swap back to still hunt, shoot 1x
7) hold reload to pop caydes
8) repeat 4-8 using shurikens and trancendance to extend radiant.
Im not saying its easy, but im seeing 6m+ a phase on warpriest
I'd love to see someone better than me pull it off to full potential
This is the exact strat that me and my friend are practicing to duo the witness, it can spit out the required 4 million per phase necessary to kill it
@@fleefie glad to hear I was on the right path.
I was using marksman dodge to begin with as a safety buffer incase I missed shots or messed up the order
Switched now to radiant dodge as confidence increased.
Golden gun hunter with still hunt has finally given me the feeling of being an actual sniper build
Thanks for the comparison between the two, quite insightful to see side by side. While Still Hunt is undoubtedly the best DPS especially on Celestial Nighthawk, I felt it was mildly unfair in the DPS comparison since with Still Hunt you were aiming at his face which is much easier to hit crits than a Divinity Bubble being covered by his stomach when you were using the Euphony. With the amount of missed crits on Euphony I'd say you would be up about 200-250k bringing it slightly closer albeit it marginally closer to Still Hunt.
The Still Hunt rotation could be a little quicker DPS if you empty out the mag before activating Cayde’s Retribution. That lets you get more damage in before Retribution refills the magazine
Would love you see you test the new warlock super w/ a demo BnS rocket (the nades from the super remote the rocket) I got some INSANE damage with that combo on Greg earlier - side note: ember of ashes improved the damage by a lot
It's on the list of videos don't worry!
Llama Also note when u rally u get full Cades Retri so u should be able to pop Golden Gun + the second Still hunt Golden before going into the Sniper rotation
Why did you aim for the head with still hunt but everything else was super inconsistent shots on the div bubble? Not saying it would have warped the order of the results but it would have made the others perform a lot better than what you showed here
Exactly what I was thinking also.
Id love to see how bastion stacks up now that it got effectively trench barrel.
Bastion vid tomorrow :)
alright, only dps build videos from now on lol. Crazy damage, good stuff man!
I just want to point out that you were shooting his actual crit during the 3mil still hunt rotation and that does a little more damage than shooting the div bubble
Was this before or after the still hunt nerf
Before!
llama, is the kinetic weapon damage boost earned from matching your subclass to the current surge modifier not working with microcosm? Seems like microcosm wouldn’t shift in viability compared to the pack on weeks where the meta subclasses match the surge.
I was wondering the same
To me still hunt is better since I already can use it lmao.
Are you gonna do a rotation 101 video for some new builds now that prismatic n stuff is out?
Wasn't this on Solar surge week? So Doomed Petitioner at would be higher than Cataclysmic?
Yeah lmao Cataclysmic has fallen down quite a bit
Why is cataclysmic so bad? Shouldn't bait and switch out damage precision instrument?
@@cur1ous238 At max stacks enhanced precision instrument is the same damage buff (30%) as B&S, and it only takes 3 shots (I guess 9 technically) to hit this cap
@@cur1ous238 too much wasted time proccing it i guess
Also I'm curious how much damage you'll do with song of flame and the still hunt or Microchosm since it causes both solar and kinetic weapons to apply scorch.
how do you get clean images of the weapon icons?
I use an AI upscaler to enhance the icons you can get from the API