New Honda Civic Type R review: Is it really better?

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  • Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
  • The time has finally come for Mat to get his hands on the new Honda Civic Type R!
    So let’s take a look at what you get with Honda’s all-new hot hatch. In terms of the design, it’s easily recognisable as the Type R instead of the regular Civic. Up front it comes with a vent in the bonnet, red Honda badging across the grille, more vents and wider wheel arches. Around the back, you’ll find a massive rear wing, coupled with a deeper bumper and even a diffuser!
    On the inside, the Type R is pretty damn striking. It comes with red carpets, red floor mats, red ambient lighting, and red sports seats! It also comes with bespoke digital dials with LED shift lights, and you’ll find a steering wheel covered in fake suede and red stitching. There’s metallic trim around the centre console, and of course, it comes with a brushed aluminium gear knob.
    So with so many changes to the looks and interior, you’d expect a whole lot of changes under the bonnet, right? Well, not exactly. The new Type R is equipped with the same 2-litre 4-cylinder turbo as its predecessor. However, it at least comes with a new turbocharger and straighter exhaust, which all-in-all helps it produce 329hp - 10hp more than before! But that’s not all, you’ll also get 420Nm… 20Nm more than before.
    One other thing has increased compared to the predecessor. It’s the price, with the new Civic Type R starting from £47,000 - £12,000 more than its predecessor!! So is it worth it? You’ll have to join Mat for this all-new review and see for yourself!
    Chapters
    00:00 Intro
    00:37 Engine
    01:11 0-60mph
    01:29 Chassis
    03:13 Country Road Driving
    05:15 Design
    07:20 Price
    08:06 Interior
    09:13 Back Seats
    10:05 Boot
    10:35 5 Annoying Things
    12:13 5 Cool Things
    13:55 Motorway Driving
    14:50 Town Driving
    15:44 Verdict
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  • @carwow
    @carwow  Рік тому +512

    Rate the new Civic Type R out of 10.

  • @Kataru.
    @Kataru. Рік тому +917

    Hearing Mat compare a car to something random at the beginning of a video makes my day.

  • @vibhasreddykatta9876
    @vibhasreddykatta9876 Рік тому +1249

    This is by far the most mature looking type R in my opinion.

    • @Tomoyo0827
      @Tomoyo0827 Рік тому +69

      I never understand why type R needs to look childish.....how many parents do Honda think will buy their teenage boy a brand new performance car?
      Because If you can afford one yourself....its too inmature for you

    • @ethandelafontaine
      @ethandelafontaine Рік тому +20

      EK9?

    • @vibhasreddykatta9876
      @vibhasreddykatta9876 Рік тому +38

      @@ethandelafontaine To me, The EK9 with neutral colours looks like a sleeper car. This looks like a sport hatch without being too shouty.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +2

      @@ethandelafontaine Civic Type R EK 1998 Better tho.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      @@Tomoyo0827 agree.

  • @Tokyuuu
    @Tokyuuu Рік тому +44

    I actually caught one of these on the road earlier today, and no joke....it's a good looking car!
    I'm not normally a big Honda fan, but I'm a fan of this new build!

  • @renllanfair3340
    @renllanfair3340 Рік тому +228

    I have waited for this review for months! Happy that Mat said 'I f**king love this car' (expected though).
    I am so lucky that I can buy the Type R for £31k in Japan. The price in the UK is outrageous.

    • @CED99
      @CED99 Рік тому +15

      Yup £47k is expensive!

    • @legaltechinnovations1594
      @legaltechinnovations1594 Рік тому +12

      @@CED99 in Belgium, it’s like £52k in Belgium (€60k).

    • @ianslan
      @ianslan Рік тому +3

      Mat couldn't sell his GR yaris on CarWow, he would?

    • @keiming2277
      @keiming2277 Рік тому +5

      News : Honda is not receiving orders for new Type R in Japan since the monthly production is 400 and received 20K orders worldwide

    • @binky10101
      @binky10101 Рік тому +1

      Also sold out in the uk, only importing 200 and all pre sold.

  • @arronhorwood9997
    @arronhorwood9997 Рік тому +447

    Had an EP3 Type R since I was 20. And for the past 17 years it’s served me impeccably well. This is the only one since I’ve liked the look of.

    • @hyper_channel
      @hyper_channel Рік тому +5

      I have driven an EP3 and a FK8 and they are very different. The EP3 feels way way more light and engaging in general, the FK8 is faster ofc but in terms of fun I don't think it's and step up (it is in the technology though, if it's your only car going to work and all that will feel much better in the newer as you can imagine)

    • @pauln0371
      @pauln0371 Рік тому +13

      Tbf a grey import Integra DC5 is the best looking..

    • @sticktothefacts8905
      @sticktothefacts8905 Рік тому +1

      @@pauln0371 So true, not even a contest

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +1

      @@hyper_channel the 1998 Civic Type R EK miles above 2023 version even though the 2023 Civic is 9.4/10.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +5

      @@pauln0371 Integra DC5 still stand out till this day too.

  • @josephwalker6552
    @josephwalker6552 Рік тому +6

    Love the comedy that comes along with great information. I enjoy the few laughs that come with each episode.

  • @manishkalla6570
    @manishkalla6570 Рік тому +8

    As always superb review..was waiting for it

  • @Gandalf606
    @Gandalf606 Рік тому +93

    I've long (secretly) wanted a Honda Civic Type R. I like the fact that Matt loves this version. I am tempted. Very.

    • @richardwells1709
      @richardwells1709 Рік тому +7

      The UK supply of this Civic type R is very limited. I have heard that the 2023 allocation has been already sold out. Ordered the hybrid civic in November last year. Estimated delivery is July 2023 !

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Рік тому +2

      @@richardwells1709 the 2023 Civic apparently looked cool.

    • @actionreplay8235
      @actionreplay8235 Рік тому +1

      @@richardwells1709 i ordered mine on Sept 15th and got it in 3 weeks. Advance model. Been loving mine since. Brilliant car.

    • @keynesianeconomics4113
      @keynesianeconomics4113 Рік тому +3

      @@richardwells1709 Just put money down on one in Australia. Should be here 2024 lmao.

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому

      @@keynesianeconomics4113 you paid 72k aud for a civic? Lol

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +46

    The new Honda Civic Type R looks so cool, sporty and aggressive!

    • @rasherbasher8203
      @rasherbasher8203 Рік тому +2

      You said the same about the Toyota aygo x yesterday🤣

    • @cielo20
      @cielo20 Рік тому

      i think you are comenting on the wrong one here , this one does not look any of those 3 you mentioned , its not cool because now its grown up so lost its cool factor , its not sporty in fact it looks like the normal one actually normal one look more sporty and it is only agressive when driven that way doesnt look that tough , the previous two fk2 and fk8 were all those you mentioned

    • @mukhlisar9377
      @mukhlisar9377 Рік тому

      @@cielo20 same i like this new one but with previous type r i dont like the back of the car looks ugly to me. But that also go to this one, i mean like why HONDA WHY? u have the best designer but i choose this design for me in term of design type r is good on the front but look so disgusting at the back thats all no one can change my mind on that.

    • @cielo20
      @cielo20 Рік тому

      @@mukhlisar9377 its all about what one like , but im sure that most honda enthusiasts like more fk2-fk8 looks than fl5 looks its too plain

    • @mukhlisar9377
      @mukhlisar9377 Рік тому

      @@cielo20 yep i do like the look on every civic it just that fk8 they did that car dirty with that look on the back. It just felt off and true on some people they do like it. But for me i just really love the look at the front of fk8 look so aggressive but at the back look so out of nature u know what i mean.

  • @Tommah666
    @Tommah666 Рік тому +32

    It's more expensive because they stopped building them in Swindon so we pay the export premium now, the engine's made in the US and final assembly's in Japan. Got the FK8 myself and still adore it but with a price jump that significant is pretty painful.

    • @dominicrusho
      @dominicrusho Рік тому +4

      Don’t forget about the average fleet emissions legislation is Europe - Honda can only sell a small number of these per year due to their relatively high CO2 output; as such they have to charge a bomb to make any money on them

    • @TheSuperBoyProject
      @TheSuperBoyProject Рік тому

      @@dominicrusho the UK doesn't have to abide by EU laws

    • @jimmynext5375
      @jimmynext5375 Рік тому

      Engine built in USA... really?!

    • @gui97kr
      @gui97kr Рік тому

      In brazil the same car costs 72k pounds

    • @gui97kr
      @gui97kr Рік тому

      Probably

  • @dimwillow7113
    @dimwillow7113 Рік тому +11

    Looks amazing and seems to drive amazing.

  • @VarunSrinivas
    @VarunSrinivas Рік тому +254

    finally a Type R which looks mature... this generation will age really well.

    • @hyper_channel
      @hyper_channel Рік тому +26

      The trick with the previous one was to buy it in black so all those plastic BS blends in :D

    • @VarunSrinivas
      @VarunSrinivas Рік тому +3

      @@hyper_channel even though, it looked slightly 'in your face' which I notice after this generation...

    • @dididikaaa
      @dididikaaa Рік тому +2

      @@hyper_channel or buy spoon body kit to make it look subtle

    • @KarinHonda
      @KarinHonda Рік тому

      Shut up already with your „mature“

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому

      Doubt it with edgy futuristic designs being in fashion with EVs

  • @LexPlayzMC
    @LexPlayzMC Рік тому +108

    I've never really cared that much for the type R, but I actually really like this one!

    • @escos0410
      @escos0410 Рік тому +2

      Agreed, I always said it would take something special to let our mk8 CS go and this is one car I would
      Just Iv got used to a DSG now lol 😂

    • @aitoluxd
      @aitoluxd Рік тому +1

      Same

  • @moonsapling
    @moonsapling Рік тому

    I love seeing Honda recieve love from journalists all across Europe! They deserve it, especially the Civic.

  • @djc1234
    @djc1234 10 місяців тому +22

    I remember buying a Type R in 2005 & paid 17k (it had air con so was 1k more), it was a ridiculously fun car & a good price. This thing looks good & is obviously a good car (I definitely take Mat's word on that), but the price is, in my opinion, way o.t.t.

  • @j4m3zflem007
    @j4m3zflem007 Рік тому +361

    can't understand why the old one gets so much stick. I think it looks absolutely great!

    • @marti9
      @marti9 Рік тому +35

      Stevie wonder is that you????put your glasses on ya maniac

    • @pfunkle
      @pfunkle Рік тому +34

      Same! Love it. It's badass.

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому +34

      Old one attracts attention. I own a fk8, and kids compliment and shout me down all day, they say like a lambo.
      ●Some people like to be mostly ignored on the road, so they prefer fl5. Nothing wrong with that.

    • @seansimmons5071
      @seansimmons5071 Рік тому +22

      Because most people lack the conviction of making their own choices in life regardless of what other people might think, no doubt in person the Fk8 is way better, and I'm sure in performance aswell.

    • @WeirdSeagul
      @WeirdSeagul Рік тому +9

      cause it was very over styled

  • @KOL630
    @KOL630 Рік тому +3

    Have to say this looks wicked. Wasn’t sure at first but it. Handsome machine. Top work Honda 😎

  • @BrunoBA
    @BrunoBA Рік тому

    I was soooo waiting for this video to come out!

  • @felixdeutsch2467
    @felixdeutsch2467 5 місяців тому

    Wow Matt! Your reviews are incredible, I would buy all my cars from you.

  • @photosmithy
    @photosmithy Рік тому +3

    I used to have a Dc2 type R as a daily driver for 16 years. Love the grown up look of this one so much.

    • @FriendsOfTheRoad
      @FriendsOfTheRoad Рік тому +1

      Love the dc2, looks amazing. Everytime I see someone driving one i think they know and love their cars.

    • @photosmithy
      @photosmithy Рік тому

      @tuckermcelroy615 I have seen one being driven around occasionally, and one thing that surprises me is how petite they look compared to most cars. Enjoyed owning mine, but UK weather, salt on roads, reaked havoc on the body. Rust kills most of them, which is a shame as the mechanical bits are bombproof.

  • @yissibiiyte
    @yissibiiyte Рік тому +73

    That thing's enormous. It's supposed to be a compact hatch, now it's a full-size sedan

    • @LITTEULCEVENN
      @LITTEULCEVENN Рік тому +13

      The FK8 is already an enormous car

    • @peejayem4700
      @peejayem4700 Рік тому +1

      exactly - it’s like a boat

    • @4Kandlez
      @4Kandlez Рік тому +1

      Do Honda say it's a compact hatch?

    • @peejayem4700
      @peejayem4700 Рік тому +4

      @@4Kandlez Honda didn’t say it’s specially a hatch but they imply that it’s compact. The ‘Civic’ nameplate was introduced “for citizens and cities” as a compact commuter.

    • @pasiutrial
      @pasiutrial Рік тому +1

      Still a hatch.

  • @ryanfrisby7389
    @ryanfrisby7389 Рік тому

    Excellent review Mat!

  • @revanomoretto737
    @revanomoretto737 Рік тому

    Finally review about the new civic type r! Been waiting

  • @gapistan2335
    @gapistan2335 Рік тому +55

    The review we’ve all been waiting for

    • @romsofficial30
      @romsofficial30 Рік тому +1

      I've waiting this to long

    • @romsofficial30
      @romsofficial30 Рік тому

      @@XCARWORLD Its alright I'll support you. Its a good start

    • @romsofficial30
      @romsofficial30 Рік тому

      @@XCARWORLD Its fine to me. Your narrator and the explanation is neat and understandable great work XCARWORLD

    • @mubblemann
      @mubblemann Рік тому

      Not me.

  • @xelawash
    @xelawash Рік тому +10

    I’m pumped that you graded the new Type R as a “Buy” it vehicle!
    I’m considering it as my next car (currently have a Honda Crosstour V6 EX-L) and the hatchback/fastback style has me spoiled. 👍

  • @mohahram6951
    @mohahram6951 Рік тому

    Great review and thank you for great channel contents mate.
    I still prefer my boyish looking FK8, but wish it had the infotainment and engine upgrades of the FL5...

  • @CreateActionLtd
    @CreateActionLtd Рік тому +2

    I'm 100% buying this car. And great review.

  • @DontReadMyProfilePicture473
    @DontReadMyProfilePicture473 Рік тому +10

    The Type R has never been my favorite but this video lowkey changed my mind!

    • @newyearbetterdays
      @newyearbetterdays Рік тому +2

      that's exactly what I was thinking

    • @spreadinglove648
      @spreadinglove648 Рік тому +2

      @@newyearbetterdays Honda Have been releasing some W cars recently

  • @damnbadger8242
    @damnbadger8242 Рік тому +22

    The last one was also great, I like the lower perfect seating position. Cars like a Focus ST or RS had that higher akward seats.

    • @mugenmark
      @mugenmark Рік тому +1

      Focus RS seating position was fixed on later production models or could buy a kit for £500 to lower them anyway. Only really affected the optional Recaro buckets and wasnt as bad as some made out. I'm 6''2" and it never bothered me on mine

    • @juststuff531
      @juststuff531 Рік тому

      My father owns a focus st. Late 2017 ST3 and the seat goes very low because after facelift it can go low

    • @Jehco14
      @Jehco14 Рік тому

      I test drove the FK8 before buying my Focus RS and I was really impressed by that car (I owned a Renaultsport Megane back then). Impressive chassis, great engine and gearbox, perfect seating position... I bought the RS mostly for tax reasons (it could be bought as a "van" in Belgium which made it much cheaper to own), but to be fair the FK8 was just a more sorted car I found. The RS has huge potential but you need a few tweaks to reach it whereas the Honda was good from stock. I would absolutely love to drive the new Type R.

  • @davewilliams7130
    @davewilliams7130 6 місяців тому

    Great review this about the best looking Type R ever produced

  • @BoboKisempia
    @BoboKisempia Рік тому +3

    Just an honest review, I like it, about the price you're right, that's a lot.

  • @yorkshiremanoutdoors9848
    @yorkshiremanoutdoors9848 Рік тому +41

    I prefer the previous type r looks more hot hatch

  • @Bmontepeque11
    @Bmontepeque11 Рік тому +21

    I know this is unbelievably expensive but this is my favorite Hot Hatch! ❤️ Honda Civics are just amazing ❤️😩

    • @allaniman8829
      @allaniman8829 Рік тому

      This is $71,200 here in the Philippines.

    • @daweigo6851
      @daweigo6851 Рік тому

      $72500 in Australia, getting ridiculous, honda bought in fixed price and closed many long term dealership, sales down over 70%, they have killed the brand unfortunately

  • @sirleme6522
    @sirleme6522 Рік тому

    Hey Mat thanks i enjoyed this video

  • @Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King
    @Coa_Kralj_Coa_The_King 5 місяців тому

    How good you describe the car 🚗 Well done mate!!!

  • @akshaysudhan841
    @akshaysudhan841 Рік тому +39

    You can't go wrong with a a Honda let alone a type R, love these things

    • @gypsyemperor7535
      @gypsyemperor7535 Рік тому +2

      50k

    • @Ciaran334
      @Ciaran334 Рік тому +1

      @Gypsy Emperor But if you get a Type R you'll know got the best of the best

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому

      Yes you can. They're not as reliable as they once were and pricing is laughable

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому

      @@Ciaran334 it isn't the best of the best lol. It's terrible to live with

    • @Ciaran334
      @Ciaran334 Рік тому

      @@mharro88 Okay👍

  • @minuparathnayake2482
    @minuparathnayake2482 Рік тому +13

    We need those cinematic gear changing shots again like in the toyota gr video🔥

  • @bossadave
    @bossadave Рік тому +27

    As a current FK8 owner I’m not convinced it is worth an extra £14,000. You could get a tidy EP3 for that.

    • @davidkelly2542
      @davidkelly2542 Рік тому +5

      Why would you want an ep3? Rubbish steering, handling is bad, zero steering feel and it looks like breadvan

    • @davemorris6747
      @davemorris6747 Рік тому +3

      I also have an Fk8 and this car isn’t worth an extra 14 grand. Also it is unobtainable. Unless you took out a PCP deal and put a deposit down before it was released so you couldn’t test drive one first it’s hell of a gamble. My dealer actually told me that I wasn’t eligible as I bought my cars outright.

    • @bossadave
      @bossadave Рік тому

      @@davemorris6747 that’s mental I also bought mine outright

    • @bossadave
      @bossadave Рік тому

      @@davidkelly2542 never driven one so have to take your word for it but they are likely to appreciate in value going forward.

    • @fishfinners
      @fishfinners Рік тому

      Bossdave why are you arguing with alt accounts?

  • @Garage12
    @Garage12 Рік тому +2

    EK9 will always remain the best to me, high revving b16b with plenty of character, and just like the FL5 red carpets, titanium gear knob, brilliant seats, LSD, tons of changes that set it aside from the regular chassis, FL5 looks good but it's priced itself into a category that it can't compete for daily use

  • @jal1797
    @jal1797 Рік тому

    If you can easily heel toe as you said at this gap between pedals then you are a Legend man!

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +53

    Missed the Nurburgring kick a lot! Thankfully Mat didn't got a kick this time!

  • @tomwilliams242
    @tomwilliams242 Рік тому +30

    Agreed, far too expensive compared to FK8. I like the distinctive looks of my 19 reg FK8 in which the body coloured wing does not look too out of place in Polished Metal colour. I like the car even more now the original oem Continental Contact 6 tyres, all with 3m tread depth at 15k miles, have recently been replaced with Michelin Pilot Sport 4s tyres. The Michelin tyres have a more dampened steering feel, which I prefer, they are quieter, more comfortable & do not chunk when turning in cold weather. Michelin do not recommend their use below 5 deg C but I had to use my car today when temperature was minus 3 deg C & car felt secure driven sensibly. I have a Honda space saver spare fitted which does not reduce the boot space by much. Rather pleased the FL5 is much more expensive than FK8 as it will help my car retain its value. Being a mature driver I prefer the muted exhaust sound of my FK8 to a raucous anti-social sound.

    • @pfunkle
      @pfunkle Рік тому +1

      I am definitely looking for an FK8 in a few years when my Fit gets a lil too long in the tooth! Absolutely in love with the styling and hopefully the prices will slowly go down over time.

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому +1

      Both 2020 fk8 and fl5 have fake Honda Active sound

    • @cielo20
      @cielo20 Рік тому +1

      @@g0d182 yes only fk2 is so raw even in its driving

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому

      Are you from the UK? UK buyers could get the FK2 which is still my favourite turbo Type R!

    • @tomwilliams242
      @tomwilliams242 Рік тому +1

      The 19 reg FK8 does not have fake sound in the cabin. I changed my third S2000 for an FK2 & immediately knew I had made a good decision.

  • @realchestro2986
    @realchestro2986 Рік тому

    Love the front end of the previous model and the rear end of this.

  • @susanpritchard6164
    @susanpritchard6164 Рік тому

    Brilliant Matt top gear beckons ❤

  • @MrEtienne6657
    @MrEtienne6657 Рік тому +5

    Best looking Civic type R ever ! 😍

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому

      Maybe the least eye catching one, or maybe 2nd least after ep3
      Honda should probably delete the 11th gen from their history

  • @ASKyle-kt8in
    @ASKyle-kt8in Рік тому +37

    I loved the look of the last gen Type R and I will die on this hill

    • @samanson2001
      @samanson2001 Рік тому +4

      I join you on the hill

    • @ruisilva3317
      @ruisilva3317 Рік тому +1

      Back not so much for me it's meh but the front end is lovely

    • @fb6039
      @fb6039 Рік тому

      Same

    • @cerebelul
      @cerebelul Рік тому +3

      Same, they ruined it for the enthusiasts this time around, weaker design and higher price.

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому +1

      I think a bunch of old people may have complained about the fk8 looks
      They got what they wanted something barely noticable and blends into common traffic apparently well

  • @RoyalKnightCurly
    @RoyalKnightCurly Рік тому +1

    “I fucking love this car, fucking love it!” Couldn’t agree more Matt❤❤

  • @DiokengM
    @DiokengM Рік тому

    Did I just hear Matt saying Nissan type R around 3:13 or my ears are deceiving me? Great video Matt as always!

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 Рік тому +6

    Mat thank you so much for this insane video!

  • @alexphilipparadiyil4775
    @alexphilipparadiyil4775 Рік тому +25

    I have booked one in US, 🥰 eagerly waiting for it to get in my hands😜🥰🥰🥰

    • @Anthony-hd1bq
      @Anthony-hd1bq Рік тому

      Shit car

    • @defnotatroll
      @defnotatroll Рік тому

      good for you!

    • @fl3xxxo
      @fl3xxxo Рік тому

      Doesn't the new Type R have an insane markup by the dealers in the US?

    • @radityaanugrahp
      @radityaanugrahp Рік тому

      Do you got msrp price? Or how much is the mark up?

    • @hassyg4083
      @hassyg4083 Рік тому +1

      @@fl3xxxo yeah its same price as an rs3 there

  • @aero5016
    @aero5016 9 місяців тому

    This is now my dream car!

  • @SuvDelights
    @SuvDelights Рік тому

    The Honda cars are my best brands .
    With full durability and best engines, u're doing a great job .Mats

  • @zainabdullah9556
    @zainabdullah9556 Рік тому +42

    Previous type R is my favourite one of type R series

  • @richardsmith579
    @richardsmith579 Рік тому +24

    Lovely review and a magnificent car. Honda is selling every one they make, regardless of the price.

    • @ngc-fo5te
      @ngc-fo5te Рік тому +1

      Not regardless of the price.

    • @Lee.S..B
      @Lee.S..B Рік тому +1

      You mean every one they are willing to make/sell

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому +1

      @@Lee.S..B The 10,000 orders in Japan at the equivalent of £31,000 are Honda's priority. The export allocation at higher profit margin is just "gravy" I guess.

    • @betterbeavailable
      @betterbeavailable Рік тому

      Haha. That was a joke right?

  • @januszgajusz1905
    @januszgajusz1905 6 місяців тому

    I absolutely love the new Civic, definitely next car if I can get my hands on one.

  • @michaelcole455
    @michaelcole455 Рік тому

    My apologies for not being around to watch reviews,I am back in England now, the new generation Honda Type R seems much more aggressive and takes corners tighter it seemed, they really have done their homework with this lairy car thanks for your video well done Matt👍👏👏😊

  • @houseismorethanjustm
    @houseismorethanjustm Рік тому +41

    It looks really good but the price ... I don't know if you can even find it at MSRP price . At 50k we go into a whole new level . Probably the right price should be around 35-38k ? But that's just me . There is something in this Type R which makes it stand out from the rest . But generally Honda looks really good . Nice review !

    • @richardwells1709
      @richardwells1709 Рік тому +2

      Honda will sell every one of the Civic type R even at £47k

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому

      @@richardwells1709 because they'll barely ship 100 of them

    • @tomm9607
      @tomm9607 Рік тому

      @@richardwells1709 they’ll be “sold” on finance. Nobody is buying this car outright for 50k. 46k is the base model too, and I doubt they’ll even ship any base models like the FK8 they only had the GT versions.

    • @ericschollmeyer5130
      @ericschollmeyer5130 Рік тому

      def way cooler cars you can buy for 50k

  • @richardbeck818
    @richardbeck818 Рік тому +111

    It looks amazing and I love the fact that it is manual but paying just shy of 50k feels a bit too steep. I mean you can get a 3 year old 718 Cayman for sub 50k or a Giulia Q sub 45k or an manual M2 sub 35k. I know they aren't hot hatches or brand new, but I think I would still take one of the latter over a brand new type r

    • @ktzmedia
      @ktzmedia Рік тому +9

      True,It’s nice I won’t lie it’s just that its still a Honda for 50K

    • @philc1773
      @philc1773 Рік тому +14

      I hear you and can't disagree. M240i x drive 12 months old can be had for the same money.
      I would say though, not much will be as reliable, as well engineered or enjoyable at any price !

    • @avalanche816
      @avalanche816 Рік тому +8

      You'd need to drive one to fully understand.. expensive, but about more than figures on a page

    • @richardbeck818
      @richardbeck818 Рік тому +2

      I have at 2017 manual m140i that is tuned to 444hp, which cost me 19k. Can it really be that much more fun than what I already have? I get I can't 100% say it isn't, but at 50k it will be at least 4 years before it's gets to a price I would consider giving it a chance

    • @seansimmons5071
      @seansimmons5071 Рік тому +2

      You can get an fk8 for 25k and we know which is quicker and the better car 😉 time will tell.

  • @mrpanthersgames1116
    @mrpanthersgames1116 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for your time and effort! I would rate the care 10 out of 10...hate that US dealers are marking up the price 15K + on these,.,love the car though

  • @mattiasalone5079
    @mattiasalone5079 Рік тому +1

    Absolute masterpiece.

  • @traceurGeorge
    @traceurGeorge Рік тому +3

    Type R styling has seemed to always split people. The ep3 I still think is one of the better looking hatchbacks on the road (I am of the persuasion though, that the majority of 90s-2000s styling was the best for the hot hatches). The fn2 still divides people on opinions too, but I gotta admit i just haven’t been able to like the recently type r styling. For me these good and bad from this and the previous model. I don’t think I will ever like that 3 pipe exhaust, but I do love the fact Honda still giving people a proper manual, I wonder how long it’ll be before we’re all forced to drive automatics!

  • @micglou
    @micglou Рік тому +42

    This new Type R may have more power compared to the previous version, BUT... they also changed the gearing and it's actually a little bit slower than previous version!

  • @abolfazlabouali5084
    @abolfazlabouali5084 Рік тому

    This car is perfect and I think we are on the same page about buying this new Honda. Thanks for reviewing it. ❤❤💙💙

  • @mobilia555
    @mobilia555 Рік тому

    nice video, i like it. greetings from Indonesia, thanks.

  • @rallsopp69
    @rallsopp69 Рік тому +4

    I've been very fortunate to be amongst the lucky few to get their hands on one of the first UK allocations, and I completely echo the "f**king love this car" sentiment.

    • @darkchild130
      @darkchild130 Рік тому +1

      Congratulations dude, first type R I’d happily own if I could afford it.

  • @jasminderbharij5861
    @jasminderbharij5861 Рік тому +4

    When I look at such cars and I just viewed your latest Golf R too, it really makes me wonder how far they've progressed from let's say, the Mitsubishi Evo 10 FQ 360 or 400.
    We're talking about cars built in 2008 to 12.
    Yes, better suspension, better ergonomics, much more electronics and gizmos like ambient lighting; but in actual driving experience?? Those top of the line STIs and EVOs were something else.
    I'd love to see anyone of these new top hatches get their ears trimmed by those cars. And the R is horrendously expensive to fix when anything goes wrong- Golf.

  • @nigelday001
    @nigelday001 Рік тому

    Awesome Review Matt , it is expensive but what price do you put on fun like that .. brilliant car .

  • @tedstrikertwa800
    @tedstrikertwa800 Рік тому

    Really need the full track review

  • @Shambles7698
    @Shambles7698 Рік тому +6

    Cannot wait to see this car in Nurburgring 🔥

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому +2

      You probably won't
      They have had 2 years to beat the record

    • @seansimmons5071
      @seansimmons5071 Рік тому +2

      No chance, give it a year and the true reviews will come out, Fk8 is the better car no doubt, this thing is just a crowd pleaser designed for the masses.

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому

      @@seansimmons5071 "Fk8 is the better car no doubt" I mean they're the same car for the most part... Most of the mechanical parts are interchangeable -- you can upgrade the FK8 with FL5 parts like the wider wheels, and you can upgrade the FL5 with FK8 parts like the shorter final drive ratio.
      I'm not sure it makes sense to say the FK8 is "the better car", when the FL5 is just a slightly different version of the same chassis with different styling. The 11th gen Civic is just the mid-cycle refresh of the 10th gen Civic after all. Granted, Honda have managed to make the 11th gen look quite different even though the A/B/C pillar angles are the same and the underlying body structure will be very, very similar.
      [Heck a lot of parts are even interchangeable back to the FK2 Type R, though that 8th/9th gen genuinely was a different chassis.]

  • @iandavidson99
    @iandavidson99 Рік тому +14

    I bought a brand new Civic Type-R (EP3) from a Honda dealer back in 2002 and it was £15,995. How times have changed.

    • @markclayden7654
      @markclayden7654 Рік тому +1

      I did the same, £18k with a load of options inc. air con and private plate. Mad how expensive this new one is 😂

    • @sportsmachinerr1401
      @sportsmachinerr1401 Рік тому

      Silly money. One would also have to pay an extra £355 road tax after the first year for 5 years as the list price is over £40k.

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit Рік тому

      People who have ep3 keep saying that but 20 years a go... A house in 2002 was also a lot cheaper etc... Gas and electricity... Food...

    • @markclayden7654
      @markclayden7654 Рік тому +1

      @@UnseenSpirit My house was 30% cheaper. This car is 150% more expensive. Your maths is terrible.

    • @UnseenSpirit
      @UnseenSpirit Рік тому

      @@markclayden7654 firstly if your house from 2002 only went up by 30 percent, then it's either a really expensive house, you overpaid or you're in a bad area.
      Secondly, your house may have some changes since 2002 but it's still the same house.
      This car is better than a EP3... If a EP3 came out as new today, then perhaps it wouldn't be 47k...
      Your comparison between this car and a EP3 is terrible...

  • @TheSheamus78
    @TheSheamus78 Рік тому

    love the ek9 the EP3 and the FN2 3 door hatchbacks the new ones are nice but family cars!!

  • @jtlobito3702
    @jtlobito3702 Рік тому

    Great car and great presenter

  • @xappgametvx
    @xappgametvx Рік тому +9

    I used to own an FK8 Type R which I loved. I remember it being so precise and reliable when taking corners at speed. Something that I never experienced before or after. True, the design is outrageous for some, but is new FL5 Type R worth extra 15 grand?

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому +1

      Nope. Heavier and reasonably blends in to common traffic more.
      Can't have those two strikes at once

    • @mharro88
      @mharro88 Рік тому +1

      No. Get a i30 n

    • @keiming2277
      @keiming2277 Рік тому

      News : Honda is not receiving orders for new Type R in Japan since the monthly production is 400 and received 20K orders worldwide

  • @f00lxpl
    @f00lxpl Рік тому +5

    Good 0-60, about the same as Focus RS mk2 back in 2009

  • @STORM3SHADOW
    @STORM3SHADOW Рік тому +2

    I have an allocation for an FL5 here in the US but am wayyy down the list. Luckily I have other toys to keep me busy but this car is a future classic and very limited, so even a year+ from now when my number is called, it'll be worth the wait!!!

  • @williamkinghaychan6493
    @williamkinghaychan6493 Рік тому

    Best practical sports car ever !

  • @Paratyphi
    @Paratyphi Рік тому +9

    It may have been a bit more accurate test, to drive it in hotter weather. The summer tyres in these temperatures may not enable the car to perform at its best. Nice review and nice car too. Always transport me back in the 90's, when i hear "Honda civic".

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому

      Fortunately Michelins aren't that bad between 0-10 degrees C. Pirelli P Zeros? Not so much, apparently!

  • @Andre-ohigho
    @Andre-ohigho Рік тому +10

    i wish for $50k they could atleast make it 400hp. mustangs are pushin damn near 500 at only 40k nowadays

    • @epic1053
      @epic1053 Рік тому

      In the UK a mustang is unaffordable because of the massive fuel cost and fuel is so expensive here. If they made it that powerful it wouldn't be possible to be a daily driver for normal people unless you're from a county with really cheap fuel

  • @nazarpredatorak
    @nazarpredatorak Рік тому +2

    Apart from the design, every other review I've seen of this car basically says that performance wise is identical to the previous gen. It even loses on a drag race for some reason. And on a track it's unnoticeably quicker

  • @SDADanCars
    @SDADanCars Рік тому +2

    Tomorrow i will go to Test it as well 😁😍

  • @stephantranquille6681
    @stephantranquille6681 Рік тому +3

    Looks heaps better than the last model. On the plus side, it's £6,000 cheaper in Australia!

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому

      Heaps better, or maybe most boring

  • @kikomanster8188
    @kikomanster8188 Рік тому +6

    In the US, this sells for $5k-15k over msrp if you can find one. Wish I can get one at msrp but probably not anytime soon or maybe never since this will probably be the last gen with combustion engine before we don’t know lol. Might see if I can just wait for an Integra Type S later once it comes out this year

  • @RAKITHA9
    @RAKITHA9 Рік тому

    Can't wait to get mine ......minigt is coming out with one soon

  • @philantuli3018
    @philantuli3018 Рік тому +4

    the best looking type r ever,in my humble opinion

    • @g0d182
      @g0d182 Рік тому

      Most boring looking maybe

  • @macdavies539
    @macdavies539 Рік тому +5

    Simple, elegant design, love a auto box

  • @rodgersbanda714
    @rodgersbanda714 Рік тому

    Hearing Mat Watson admit he loves it is amazing. It really must be special.

  • @Simb-l
    @Simb-l Рік тому +1

    They need to make a type r estate would look amazing

  • @smiddlehurst1
    @smiddlehurst1 Рік тому +31

    Was really looking forward to this, planned my current deal to end after this had been out for a couple of years (even Honda can suffer from early version weirdness after all) as one last ICE hurrah before going electric. And then they announced the price... Sure they'll sell all of 'em even at £47k plus but it's WAY too expensive in my book. You're in full spec M135 territory there which is just ridiculous.

    • @krishangaming
      @krishangaming Рік тому +2

      M135i doesn’t have the looks though

    • @keynesianeconomics4113
      @keynesianeconomics4113 Рік тому +2

      It's a better car. Far better build quality, more reliable and you won't get reamed as much by insurance companies and twats on scooters looking to steal shit.

    • @OverIoad7
      @OverIoad7 Рік тому +1

      @@keynesianeconomics4113it’s 47k lmao. You can get an A45 for that money

    • @piuthemagicman
      @piuthemagicman Рік тому

      @@OverIoad7 good luck with the maintenance on that

    • @krishangaming
      @krishangaming Рік тому

      @@OverIoad7 A45s are around 50k plus but it’s worth it ngl

  •  Рік тому +8

    Throttle house did a comparison with previous gen type R and this new one is slower

    • @celliott16
      @celliott16 Рік тому +1

      Not where it counts, on track, it Muller's the old ugly fk8 👍🏻

  • @RivalBro
    @RivalBro Рік тому

    My country got allocation for only 5 cars and price is firm at £43.8k, 4 were booked already before they even announced, I booked the 5th one yesterday, racing blue color and we are getting a carbon Mugen wing as per the dealership instead of the stock wing. Delivery in Q4.

  • @owen1379
    @owen1379 Рік тому

    After few months. Only want to hear a review from mat carwow💪🏽

  • @doctordryan
    @doctordryan Рік тому +3

    Honda engineers are undoubtedly some of the auto world's best.

  • @54spatula
    @54spatula Рік тому +5

    I remember the mk 2 type R being reviewed by clarkson on top gear and he absolutely annihilated it. It should’ve been selling load’s considering how good the old ‘bread van’ was, but you really didn’t see them around. He probably cost Honda 10’s of millions!!

    • @TassieLorenzo
      @TassieLorenzo Рік тому

      The FN2 didn't come with an LSD as standard to begin with. Later model years did, which improved the car a lot. The default chassis balance was set to understeer which didn't help. The combination of stiff RE050A tyres and stiff suspension didn't help the ride, yet the Japanse FD2 had suspension that was far, far stiffer again... Once those things are corrected (e.g., smaller diameter wheels or more modern tyres with a softer sidewall, tweaking the rear end geometry or putting wider wheels on the front with lower pressures than the rear etc), it drives quite well IMO, the stock shocks are nice and taut and responsive and the car doesn't wallow like say a Focus ST 5-pot or Golf GTI Mk5 (shame it wasn't better out of the box, but Honda weren't that far off).

  • @TimothyBergin
    @TimothyBergin Рік тому

    The wonderful car looks great.

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg Рік тому +1

    A great choice 👌 👏

  • @USA79999
    @USA79999 Рік тому +6

    Great for UK city roads at 20mph and then to open the taps to 30mph when the speed limit gets eased. Yeah 0-30mph

    • @4Kandlez
      @4Kandlez Рік тому

      Doesn't that apply to all the other vehicles as well, such as Ferrari, Lambos, Porsche etc. People still buy em, now that's ludicrous

    • @USA79999
      @USA79999 Рік тому

      @@4Kandlez super cars are for the super rich, civic is reachable but heard UA-camr comment (cannot recollect who?) spend a max of £30K for a car. To crawl on the bumpy city narrow roads at 20mph like a deer 🦌 scared to be fined by the million cameras and also lose 3 points.

  • @piee93able
    @piee93able Рік тому +3

    Right-hand drive with Alcantara steering wheels, which is came from Japan spec👍🇯🇵

  • @adamschaeffer3614
    @adamschaeffer3614 Рік тому +2

    Crazy the UK pricing. Same car lists at $44K USD on the the Honda USA site.

  • @jairquezada5560
    @jairquezada5560 Рік тому +1

    It would be interesting to see a drag race only with Types R