Great review. My mate's got a Zero and loves it in these times of fuel shortages. Myself, I have hip problems these days and can't swing a leg over a bike seat. I've tried a flat-floor, step-through, Honda SH300 and found it surprisingly good. So, I would like to see more UK based reviews of the Honda SH350/SH300 type of bike/scooter for all us older and less agile guys who still want the freedom of the open road on two wheels.
Hello Mark👍 I have ridden 3 electric motorcycles and they feel so alien to me, after 32 years of riding ICE motorcycles I seem to be stuck in my ways however if they had a clutch and gear lever etc, I would feel right at home, it doesn't matter that they don't do anything just think of them like a comfort blanket and if they had a speaker that made the sounds of a ZX-10R gen 1 that would be great too other than that I see no problems in buying one in the future, could you pass this message on to the relevant people please, keep up the good work your channel really does help people decide which bikes to get a test ride on, I have identical triplets and when they reached the age of 17 two of them knew exactly which bikes they wanted that would suit their needs best based on your videos, and the third one well she never has a clue what she wants in life at the moment but she chose the Suzuki GSX-S 125, even though my wallet took the biggest beating of its life I'm glad they are happy first time round so thank you very much😁
You're the first vlogger that has got me interested in electric motorcycles. I wouldn't buy one at the prices they are at the moment, but something this light with say 100 miles range? If I was commuting, what fun that would be. Apart from the work when you get there. The only thing that would concern me was the silence.
Been thoroughly enjoying these Zero reviews. Zero pulled out of Australia a few years back now, our market for anything electric has been too minuscule to be worth the bother it seems. So no chance for a test ride anytime soon!
As mentioned in your video, the only real issue with commuting with these bikes is pedestrians who tend to jump into the road in front of you having not heard you coming. But then you can't get too mad at them, having spent most of their life expecting to hear you coming. I find if you ride as if expecting this to happen, it shouldn't really be a problem. And the fact that they're so quiet means you can actually talk to pedestrians as you're approaching them. Saying thank you when they stop for you, and apologising when you catch them by surprise, seems to make for a more pleasant ride for both pedestrian and rider. That's my experience anyway, having used an electric bike in town for my couriering job for the past few months. And you're right, the silence and ease of use, really does give you a kind of 'zen' feeling when riding. Strange, but kind of enjoyable, in a completely different way to our usual chariots. Great video. Keep it up. 👍🏼
Hi Mark 👋, thanks again for this review. It sounds like you've enjoyed riding these electric bikes Although the lack of sound from them would really unnerve me. Cheers.
Hello Mark, thank you for all of your informative and real-world reviews. I love them. I was wondering if you could review the Macrais ZX8 electric motorcycle as it looks interesting and at a good price for the 160ah model? Thank you. Cheers. Phil
Hi Mark, great review. It was a nice dry day on your test ride but I guess with that much torque instantly available keeping upright in the wet or on mud etc quite tricky ..
Im a little confused between the FXE vs FXS (super moto with the bug eyes), do you know what the differences are? Im in the market for the model with the lowest range and price. Great review BTW. i watch all your videos.
Hi the fxe is the newer version of the fxs ...I don't think you can get the fxs any more unless you find one at a dealer , range is about 70 miles,I'd try and find an as new fxs and save some money ...these are great bikes ...I'm looking forward to getting one in the future Cheers mark
Really considering one. I drive 42 miles one way to work. Half of it in heavy traffic. I have the option to get off and take streets. So I can really see one of these working for me.
mark ... im very interested in a comparison of the two bikes you have tested - the Honda CB500X or the Benelli Leoncino 500 Trail - which of the two would be the better purchase ?
Hi well both are brilliant ...the budget option new is the Benelli but still very reliable ,good looking and fun ...maybe If you're looking for very long term I'd go Honda but just for a fun bike for a few years I'd go for the Benelli ....I have the trk with 3000 miles now and it's been faultless Cheers mark
Thanks again Mark. Great video. Electric bikes are the future whether we like it or not. It's a good thing that they seem to be evolving in a good direction imho. If I was ridiculously rich, I would have one in my stable tomorrow. However, until the charging network, range and prices are sorted I'll just have to wait! ATVB.
it does look great fun. the spicy 110 channel reviewed on recently that had a 1 hour charge cycle although if its acheiving that by upping the amps / per charge cycle then it wouldnt be sustainable over long usage since the cells will perish by over charging or charging too fast. 9 hours though seems excessive.
All these bikes come with level 1 charging standard. 8-9 hours from EMPTY. They also come with a second port for an extra charger on the battery. You buy the extra charger and use BOTH ports and you can charge in 1.5-2 hours from EMPTY.
Excellent review as always Mark. I have decided to take the plunge and have traded in a Honda CBR650R for a Surron Road Legal electric mountain bike - it weighs only 67 kilos!! And it has a low seat height for shorties like me :) I could buy 3 new Surrons for the price of a Zero so folks, bear that in mind - when switching to electric i would advise buying a cheaper bike as the technology will evolve very quicky. The other advantage of a Surron (and similar makes) is that i can actually lift this bike into the house to charge or just remove the battery. Go on Mark - do a Surron review for us!! :)
@@markpulling12 hi Mark - yes they look totally fun and could be used for short commutes. What swung me was at the Scottish Bike show this year i was able to lift one off the side stand with one hand and it weighed nothing!! As the prices are very reasonable, I feel they would be a very good investment for an entry into the world of e motorcycles.
@@markpulling12 I test rode the Zero a year ago and really enjoyed it. I bought a SurRon and it's so much fun. Not for super long rides but a hoot, like the Zero.
Nice review as always Mark. Nice looking bike. Reminds me of a Yamaha DRZ ha ha. Not bad price either really. Have you tried the Live Wire yet from Harley Davidson? That’s a serious electric bike but obviously more pricy than the Xero’s 👍🏻
@@markpulling12 hi Mark, yeah I’ve seen the Energica Eva Ribelle RS and that looks like an amazing bike but damn it’s expensive. Are you going to be riding the Energica as well?
@@markpulling12 ah no that’s a shame. Maybe one day. Keep up the good videos Mark. When I see your notifications come through on my phone. I know it’s a good day 🙂👍🏻
Its great but not for my country offroads and unexpected roads, maybe adding mudguard at front and leg guard - will help to safeguard your leg and parts when you fall down,also with semi dirt tire.Of course price need to be inbetween 3000 to 4500 dollar USA, maybe with power generated of like 250 or 300 cc fuel bike.
Yep that price point would have to be near the $4000 dollar range for me to bite the bullet on getting one for my first bike !!!! I would love the user friendly portion of that bike a lot no clutching and no changing of gears just throttle and go with ease to match the traffic !!!!
This is a great commuting bike and you can save a lot of money if you have a big commute to work each day , but the lack of at least type 2 ac charging is a big letdown and the lack of traction control as people mentioned make this deceptively dangerous for beginners since it is such an easy bike to ride.
Thanks for the comment Yes these use the cypher 2 operating system which doesn't have traction control .. but the top of the range srf and srs have cypher 3 which does have traction control Cheers mark
Do these bikes come with traction control as standard?....with all that torque I think you'd need to be a bit cautious in the wet. Great bikes but too expensive at the moment. Good effort from Zero. Thanks for the review.
@@markpulling12 I looked on the website and those DS models looks pretty good as well but again the price points just waaaaaayyyyyy tooooo dog gone much !!!!
This bike is just a facelift of the old one, for better and worse. It looks great but if It just had a slightly bigger battery and level 2 or even DC charging it would be so much more practical. And some of the parts still look a bit cheap for that price, if your gonna charge 11 grand at least make it look a bit more high quality. Like what's with the charging location, i know it's not really a big deal but it just seems like an after thought, like they haven't really bothered. Don't get me wrong overall it's a nice bike but it could be so much more.
A lot of money . Several thousand pounds but the batteries can be charged over 1500 times / 200 000 miles I have been told ..so it will probably outlive the bike Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 nothing I like more then torque, but I don’t think these bikes are there yet with battery technology. I would take what any manufacturer says with a grain of salt. With what that cost, I purchased a 2021 zx14r and love it. I can’t wait for the future to get here already so I can finally have my electric flying motorcycle.
@@markpulling12 200k miles is for the bigger battery pack I guess. 1500 times charging about 60 miles real world range is 90k miles which is still a huge amount.
Great commuting toy as any similar electric bike, but not viable for any longer rides due to charging time-wasting and charging poor infrastructure. Once the price comes down (at least by 40-50% to consider it as commuting vehicle) it might be an interesting proposition. At the moment no contest to petrol bikes and Japanese-4 know this too.
Great review as allways but there is only 2 problems with this bike ,price and range, in the real world it needs about 200 mile range, and be about 5 grand,.
Maxi scooter superior, same experience but with cargo room. If you want alternative to conventional motorcycle' same could be said for maxi scooters and also peanuts to run but with no range anxiety"
You definitely need to be seen so wear high viz something or install some LED auxiliary lights to enhance safety. I never found that I needed to emit noise (noise can be non-directional in situations so it only alerts drivers that a motorcycle is in the vicinity, not exactly where they are). Never had someone make a turn in front of me. The Zero FXS was one of the most fun because of the light weight. As far as money is concerned, if you ride a lot within the range capabilities, it is much cheaper to have an electric motorcycle because fuel and maintenance costs are much cheaper. I have a BMW C Evolution scooter and I estimate that I hit the breakeven point compared to a BMW C 650 scooter in about 16 months. I have over 21000 miles (33800 km) on my scooter in 27 months of ownership.
@@markpulling12 I've worked out the TCO for my SR/F Premium at 67p/mile over 20,000 miles and 4 years (which includes selling it at the end). My 690 was 84p/mile over 15,000 miles / 5 years, and my X-Adv was 72p/mile over 12,000 miles and 2 years... and my wife's CB125R was 74p/mile over a mere 2200 miles and 2 years. So it's in fact cheaper to actually own and run the ludicrously expensive SR/F than my wife's 125, my beloved 690, and my awesomely useful X-Adv. And I guess that just blows the whole cost argument into the weeds really doesn't it... these are the actual figures rather than made up ones though I'm still homing in on the actual SR/F costs as to-date it's only 6 months and 5000 miles old but if it carries on the way it does it'll be more or less bang on.
the bike looks good..but it's not a "true" commuter in my mind. If you use it only as a city ride, sure. But commuting using the highway is a no go. Most of these are out of juice at 70km / 45 miles +- when riding at highway speeds...which is frankly not enough. Their website states even, for this bike on highway speeds (70mph/113km/h -> 40 miles, about 64 km). And that is not fast by any means. Plus..most of these figures are in perfect conditions, ie no headwind etc.. Also, there are little to no storage options, which is essential for the type of rider they want to attract.. The cost is still way too high for what you get. 13.880 euro to start...and you don't even get a luggage rack. Let's be honest here..Get this as a second bike if you can afford it, to have some fun close to your home, be it in the countryside or in the city. like the little B-roads you did in the video. For that it must be fantastic. Use a conventional bike for commuting.
This FXE is a SM type motorcycle and has a smaller battery pack. So yeah for highway commuting this is probably is a bad choice. But it sure can be a commuter if your commuting doesn't include (too much) highway kilometers. Most people don't commute that far.
I heard the mileage on these with 100-0% batteries are just awful and the price they want for it is just crazy.It is really an overpriced piece of battery.Around £3000-4000 maybe!
The biggest problem with fuel bikes is the oil, petrol and fluids which are so bad for health and environment. If oil companies would stop being dicks we could syntesise these fluids and keep our awesome machines. ;_;
Because of all the carbon free shite that the green brigade ( theyre green allright) keep bombarding us with, we will be lucky to be able to charge anything up soon the way things are going , especially with the gas crisis looming. According to these people, we should not even be using gas at all in power stations !!!. Lovely bikes though.
Great review. My mate's got a Zero and loves it in these times of fuel shortages. Myself, I have hip problems these days and can't swing a leg over a bike seat. I've tried a flat-floor, step-through, Honda SH300 and found it surprisingly good. So, I would like to see more UK based reviews of the Honda SH350/SH300 type of bike/scooter for all us older and less agile guys who still want the freedom of the open road on two wheels.
Thanks for the comment
Cheers mark
Yeah I drove a sh300 once. Really great fun and it made me feel 16 again.
We’ll just get a electric wheelchair … no an E wheelchair 😎
@@obeii1805I now own a Honda SH350, so I'll just put trainer wheels on either side!
Hello Mark👍 I have ridden 3 electric motorcycles and they feel so alien to me, after 32 years of riding ICE motorcycles I seem to be stuck in my ways however if they had a clutch and gear lever etc, I would feel right at home, it doesn't matter that they don't do anything just think of them like a comfort blanket and if they had a speaker that made the sounds of a ZX-10R gen 1 that would be great too other than that I see no problems in buying one in the future, could you pass this message on to the relevant people please, keep up the good work your channel really does help people decide which bikes to get a test ride on, I have identical triplets and when they reached the age of 17 two of them knew exactly which bikes they wanted that would suit their needs best based on your videos, and the third one well she never has a clue what she wants in life at the moment but she chose the Suzuki GSX-S 125, even though my wallet took the biggest beating of its life I'm glad they are happy first time round so thank you very much😁
Thanks for that feedback Kevin great 👍
I'll pass that on cheers mark
You're the first vlogger that has got me interested in electric motorcycles. I wouldn't buy one at the prices they are at the moment, but something this light with say 100 miles range? If I was commuting, what fun that would be. Apart from the work when you get there. The only thing that would concern me was the silence.
Yes Nik I had just as much fun on these smaller "cheaper" ones as the srs srf top of the range ones
Cheers mark
Loving electric bikes zoro fantastic great review as always mark👍
Thanks Andrew :)
Been thoroughly enjoying these Zero reviews.
Zero pulled out of Australia a few years back now, our market for anything electric has been too minuscule to be worth the bother it seems.
So no chance for a test ride anytime soon!
Oh that's a shame peter
I'm loving these electric bike reviews, which is a shock for me coz I'm a right old luddite, gonna have to have a test ride.
Definitely Michael try the srf or srs
Cheers mark
As mentioned in your video, the only real issue with commuting with these bikes is pedestrians who tend to jump into the road in front of you having not heard you coming. But then you can't get too mad at them, having spent most of their life expecting to hear you coming. I find if you ride as if expecting this to happen, it shouldn't really be a problem. And the fact that they're so quiet means you can actually talk to pedestrians as you're approaching them. Saying thank you when they stop for you, and apologising when you catch them by surprise, seems to make for a more pleasant ride for both pedestrian and rider. That's my experience anyway, having used an electric bike in town for my couriering job for the past few months. And you're right, the silence and ease of use, really does give you a kind of 'zen' feeling when riding. Strange, but kind of enjoyable, in a completely different way to our usual chariots. Great video. Keep it up. 👍🏼
Thanks for the great comment
Cheers mark
Hi Mark 👋, thanks again for this review. It sounds like you've enjoyed riding these electric bikes Although the lack of sound from them would really unnerve me. Cheers.
Thanks Gary 😗😊
Hello Mark, thank you for all of your informative and real-world reviews. I love them. I was wondering if you could review the Macrais ZX8 electric motorcycle as it looks interesting and at a good price for the 160ah model? Thank you. Cheers. Phil
Thanks Phil I'll look into that one :)
GREAT review Mark.
In OZ (Australia) as of May 2024 they sell for $25,500 AUD. ( WOW )
Wow, extraordinary machine! Love the styling, if I could afford it, I’d buy one now.
Thanks Eric ...yes these are definitely the future :)
Cheers mark
Good flow of videos lately Mark 👍
Thanks yes getting them in before the autumn winter weather hits :)
Good review as always Mark :-)
Thanks ☺️😊
Hi Mark, great review. It was a nice dry day on your test ride but I guess with that much torque instantly available keeping upright in the wet or on mud etc quite tricky ..
Hi David yes these don't have traction control but the srs and srf do .. I guess you just need to ride with a steady hand in the wet !
Cheers mark
Great review mark sound's like u was having fun.
Thanks James they are brilliant
Great test!
I will buy this bike next sommer, i just love E Bikes
Thanks toren great choice ...I like them aswell :)
Im a little confused between the FXE vs FXS (super moto with the bug eyes), do you know what the differences are? Im in the market for the model with the lowest range and price. Great review BTW.
i watch all your videos.
Hi the fxe is the newer version of the fxs ...I don't think you can get the fxs any more unless you find one at a dealer , range is about 70 miles,I'd try and find an as new fxs and save some money ...these are great bikes ...I'm looking forward to getting one in the future
Cheers mark
Really considering one. I drive 42 miles one way to work. Half of it in heavy traffic. I have the option to get off and take streets. So I can really see one of these working for me.
Thanks Robert yes these electric bikes make alot of sense for commuting
Cheers mark
OMG I want one of these!!!
mark ... im very interested in a comparison of the two bikes you have tested - the Honda CB500X or the Benelli Leoncino 500 Trail - which of the two would be the better purchase ?
Hi well both are brilliant ...the budget option new is the Benelli but still very reliable ,good looking and fun ...maybe If you're looking for very long term I'd go Honda but just for a fun bike for a few years I'd go for the Benelli ....I have the trk with 3000 miles now and it's been faultless Cheers mark
Thanks again Mark. Great video. Electric bikes are the future whether we like it or not. It's a good thing that they seem to be evolving in a good direction imho. If I was ridiculously rich, I would have one in my stable tomorrow. However, until the charging network, range and prices are sorted I'll just have to wait! ATVB.
Would be handy during a fuel crisis
Thanks Gary
Haha like the one now !
Excellent review ‼️
If u get down to 20% battery, do u loose any performance?
Yes it will be slower but should still do 60/70 mph
I know these are the future, I prefer you on the Z H2. Good review Mark.
Me too !!
it does look great fun. the spicy 110 channel reviewed on recently that had a 1 hour charge cycle although if its acheiving that by upping the amps / per charge cycle then it wouldnt be sustainable over long usage since the cells will perish by over charging or charging too fast. 9 hours though seems excessive.
All these bikes come with level 1 charging standard. 8-9 hours from EMPTY. They also come with a second port for an extra charger on the battery. You buy the extra charger and use BOTH ports and you can charge in 1.5-2 hours from EMPTY.
Excellent review as always Mark. I have decided to take the plunge and have traded in a Honda CBR650R for a Surron Road Legal electric mountain bike - it weighs only 67 kilos!! And it has a low seat height for shorties like me :) I could buy 3 new Surrons for the price of a Zero so folks, bear that in mind - when switching to electric i would advise buying a cheaper bike as the technology will evolve very quicky. The other advantage of a Surron (and similar makes) is that i can actually lift this bike into the house to charge or just remove the battery. Go on Mark - do a Surron review for us!! :)
I was looking at sur Ron's the other day they look amazing 😍
@@markpulling12 hi Mark - yes they look totally fun and could be used for short commutes. What swung me was at the Scottish Bike show this year i was able to lift one off the side stand with one hand and it weighed nothing!! As the prices are very reasonable, I feel they would be a very good investment for an entry into the world of e motorcycles.
@@vincentjohnston8789 yes £4500 ish is pretty good 🙂
@@markpulling12 I test rode the Zero a year ago and really enjoyed it. I bought a SurRon and it's so much fun. Not for super long rides but a hoot, like the Zero.
Hi Mark! great video, I got my FXE in the beginning of August, first one in New York I believe. I absolutely love it, she has some punch!
Hi James bet that's fun zooming arround Manhattan and long island !
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Naw, I'm from Upstate NY Finger Lakes Region, don't think i could handle NYC!
Nice little bike. What’s the engine (battery) braking on these bikes like?
Hi Dylan it regenerates the battery .. it's very gentle but it does slow you down
Nice review as always Mark. Nice looking bike. Reminds me of a Yamaha DRZ ha ha. Not bad price either really.
Have you tried the Live Wire yet from Harley Davidson? That’s a serious electric bike but obviously more pricy than the Xero’s 👍🏻
No Dan not tried the live wire yet ...have you seen the energica range ? They look amazing but are very expensive
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 hi Mark, yeah I’ve seen the Energica Eva Ribelle RS and that looks like an amazing bike but damn it’s expensive. Are you going to be riding the Energica as well?
@@Dan_B_Rides no I'd love to Dan but there aren't any dealership's near me unfortunately
@@markpulling12 ah no that’s a shame. Maybe one day. Keep up the good videos Mark. When I see your notifications come through on my phone. I know it’s a good day 🙂👍🏻
Hi Mark! Is the seat height higher or lower than the DS for you?
The Ds is slightly taller for me
Cheers mark
Good test !!! :)
Thanks Theo :)
beatiful bike, I wonder how much money will be in Turkey
If they make a lowered version ( with a bit less suspension travel) to make the seat lowered it would be even better.
Could you also include your body weight so we know how the suspension sits down?
ATB from 🇦🇺🤩🥇😎
Ok Stevie will do I'm 75 kg :)
Its great but not for my country offroads and unexpected roads, maybe adding mudguard at front and leg guard - will help to safeguard your leg and parts when you fall down,also with semi dirt tire.Of course price need to be inbetween 3000 to 4500 dollar USA, maybe with power generated of like 250 or 300 cc fuel bike.
Yep that price point would have to be near the $4000 dollar range for me to bite the bullet on getting one for my first bike !!!! I would love the user friendly portion of that bike a lot no clutching and no changing of gears just throttle and go with ease to match the traffic !!!!
This is a great commuting bike and you can save a lot of money if you have a big commute to work each day , but the lack of at least type 2 ac charging is a big letdown and the lack of traction control as people mentioned make this deceptively dangerous for beginners since it is such an easy bike to ride.
Thanks for the comment
Yes these use the cypher 2 operating system which doesn't have traction control .. but the top of the range srf and srs have cypher 3 which does have traction control
Cheers mark
Great for local commuting but a 60 mile range on the motorway is simply no use at all and I know I am old fashioned but where's the front mudguard?
Yes I guess it's a supermoto style
Do these bikes come with traction control as standard?....with all that torque I think you'd need to be a bit cautious in the wet. Great bikes but too expensive at the moment. Good effort from Zero. Thanks for the review.
They don't have traction control and there are quite a few accidents reported on forums due to their immense torque
These don't but the srs and srf do :)
These don't but the top of the range srf and srs do
@@markpulling12 Thanks for clarifying that.
@@markpulling12 I looked on the website and those DS models looks pretty good as well but again the price points just waaaaaayyyyyy tooooo dog gone much !!!!
Can’t u get this bike on a cbt ?
Hi yes the 11 kw version. :)
How is the acceleration compared to the S/DS?
Hi it's much the same
Very impressive 👍
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 ok thanks
Het Mark, did you know that J Juan is join the Brembo group in 2021
No I didn't .. oh well that makes sense as they are very good :)
Cheers mark
This bike is just a facelift of the old one, for better and worse. It looks great but if It just had a slightly bigger battery and level 2 or even DC charging it would be so much more practical. And some of the parts still look a bit cheap for that price, if your gonna charge 11 grand at least make it look a bit more high quality. Like what's with the charging location, i know it's not really a big deal but it just seems like an after thought, like they haven't really bothered. Don't get me wrong overall it's a nice bike but it could be so much more.
Does the bike come with a reverse gear..?
No it doesn't but it's very light to paddle backwards:)
@@markpulling12 thank you for the reply..appreciate that..with a 27" ish inside leg ever little helps..cheers ✌️
How much will it cost to replace the battery in 5 years when the warranty runs out?
A lot of money . Several thousand pounds but the batteries can be charged over 1500 times / 200 000 miles I have been told ..so it will probably outlive the bike
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 nothing I like more then torque, but I don’t think these bikes are there yet with battery technology. I would take what any manufacturer says with a grain of salt. With what that cost, I purchased a 2021 zx14r and love it. I can’t wait for the future to get here already so I can finally have my electric flying motorcycle.
@@markpulling12 200k miles is for the bigger battery pack I guess. 1500 times charging about 60 miles real world range is 90k miles which is still a huge amount.
Great commuting toy as any similar electric bike, but not viable for any longer rides due to charging time-wasting and charging poor infrastructure. Once the price comes down (at least by 40-50% to consider it as commuting vehicle) it might be an interesting proposition. At the moment no contest to petrol bikes and Japanese-4 know this too.
Does the FXE have traction control?
No only the srs and srf models do
@@markpulling12 Thanks. That's a shame, anything with that much torque needs it.
Kind of looks like a duck, but I like it. Thanks Mark......Sal : )
My pleasure sal 😁
Great review as allways but there is only 2 problems with this bike ,price and range, in the real world it needs about 200 mile range, and be about 5 grand,.
That's exactly the price I'd expect to pay :)
Which new bikes with this level of gear can you buy for $5000?
@@anxiousappliance nada
Wish you could make it noisy just for when you go on the freeway
Yes that would be great 👍
I would like to see an electric motorcycle with a 300 km range. 160 km is not enough if you have to wait 9 hours to get it fully charged.
Me too hopefully that will come in the future :)
@@markpulling12 mine only takes an hour to charge up for ~85 miles (I got a charge tank!) though of course that's on 3-phase 22kw chargers.
You like the FX or FXE better?
Fxe for me :)
@@markpulling12 are going to take the FXE of road and put different tires on there? I know the FX can go off road stock
Maxi scooter superior, same experience but with cargo room. If you want alternative to conventional motorcycle' same could be said for maxi scooters and also peanuts to run but with no range anxiety"
Too expensive. I know the prices will drop when the tech is more widespread, but I wouldnt even look at one at the current prices.
Agreed thanks for the comment
Wet weight?
NOT 'wet'.
140 Kg
You definitely need to be seen so wear high viz something or install some LED auxiliary lights to enhance safety. I never found that I needed to emit noise (noise can be non-directional in situations so it only alerts drivers that a motorcycle is in the vicinity, not exactly where they are). Never had someone make a turn in front of me. The Zero FXS was one of the most fun because of the light weight. As far as money is concerned, if you ride a lot within the range capabilities, it is much cheaper to have an electric motorcycle because fuel and maintenance costs are much cheaper. I have a BMW C Evolution scooter and I estimate that I hit the breakeven point compared to a BMW C 650 scooter in about 16 months. I have over 21000 miles (33800 km) on my scooter in 27 months of ownership.
Thanks for the great comment ☺️
@@markpulling12 I've worked out the TCO for my SR/F Premium at 67p/mile over 20,000 miles and 4 years (which includes selling it at the end). My 690 was 84p/mile over 15,000 miles / 5 years, and my X-Adv was 72p/mile over 12,000 miles and 2 years... and my wife's CB125R was 74p/mile over a mere 2200 miles and 2 years. So it's in fact cheaper to actually own and run the ludicrously expensive SR/F than my wife's 125, my beloved 690, and my awesomely useful X-Adv. And I guess that just blows the whole cost argument into the weeds really doesn't it... these are the actual figures rather than made up ones though I'm still homing in on the actual SR/F costs as to-date it's only 6 months and 5000 miles old but if it carries on the way it does it'll be more or less bang on.
@@caspianprince thanks for that .... brilliant stuff :)
Me at almost 60 wants one for my first bike but damn the prices are toooo stiff for us working class blokes at the moment !!!!
Yes I know ....I'd love one aswell ..have a look at the fxs used if you can find one
Cheers mark
I’m not a classical music fan Mark…
The most of the cost is the battery and motor.
Yes Sally ....the batteries can do 1500 plus charges from what I've read
Cheers mark
the bike looks good..but it's not a "true" commuter in my mind. If you use it only as a city ride, sure. But commuting using the highway is a no go. Most of these are out of juice at 70km / 45 miles +- when riding at highway speeds...which is frankly not enough. Their website states even, for this bike on highway speeds (70mph/113km/h -> 40 miles, about 64 km). And that is not fast by any means. Plus..most of these figures are in perfect conditions, ie no headwind etc.. Also, there are little to no storage options, which is essential for the type of rider they want to attract.. The cost is still way too high for what you get. 13.880 euro to start...and you don't even get a luggage rack. Let's be honest here..Get this as a second bike if you can afford it, to have some fun close to your home, be it in the countryside or in the city. like the little B-roads you did in the video. For that it must be fantastic. Use a conventional bike for commuting.
Thanks for the comment Hendrick :)
Useful info
This FXE is a SM type motorcycle and has a smaller battery pack. So yeah for highway commuting this is probably is a bad choice. But it sure can be a commuter if your commuting doesn't include (too much) highway kilometers. Most people don't commute that far.
I'll wait till the price comes down to normal overpriced motorcycles.
Thanks Ken my thoughts aswell !
Cheers mark
I heard the mileage on these with 100-0% batteries are just awful and the price they want for it is just crazy.It is really an overpriced piece of battery.Around £3000-4000 maybe!
Looks a bit bland, needs a facelift to suit the performance and to capture the imagination.
Fair comment dean 😃
He said wet weight 😂😂 dude it’s electric
Haha lol force of habit meaning ready to ride weight ...I guess it's got brake fluid :)
Best regards mark
The biggest problem with fuel bikes is the oil, petrol and fluids which are so bad for health and environment. If oil companies would stop being dicks we could syntesise these fluids and keep our awesome machines. ;_;
Because of all the carbon free shite that the green brigade ( theyre green allright) keep bombarding us with, we will be lucky to be able to charge anything up soon the way things are going , especially with the gas crisis looming. According to these people, we should not even be using gas at all in power stations !!!. Lovely bikes though.
Thanks for the view Roger 😊