I’m 6’ tall…forward controls handled it for comfort. Wind buffeting was handled by going with the lower 2” windshield. Best street bike I’ve owned out of over 30 bikes. Absolutely love my ST!
Great video. I love this bike. This bike is the only reason I own a Harley. Like you said, it's all subjective and each person likes what they like. For me, the fxlrst is it. 1. Vibration: everyone changes the bars and or risers. It's gonna happen. Kraus makes a riser that puts the riser bushings at stock distance from bars no matter what height you go with. Problem eliminated. But the vibration doesn't bother me at all. I have thrashing 9.5 risers with stock bars. It also has cruise control so I can alternate which hand I have on the bars as often as I like . 2. The bags: leather pros really do look better on this bike and hold way more stuff. A person can sell their stock bags for more than leather pros cost. 3. Forward controls with mini floorboards give the stretch needed for taller guys and still allows for a mid riding position for better handling. They're more like mid-forwards. 4. The fairing kinda sucks. But it does it's job. A taller windshield is a must. 5. Seat, foot controls and bars/risers. Seems to solve the problem. And it's something everybody does anyway. 6. Everybody is also gonna change the exhaust immediately. I waited a week and that was because that's how long the exhaust took to be delivered. This bike is a blank canvas. If it doesn't have soul it's because the owner hasn't shared their soul with it yet.
Harley is the only brand that can make it's customers buy a 20-30-40 thousand dollar bike and have to spend several thousand more on it just to make it ridable/enjoyable. From the seats, to saddlebags, handlebars, foot pegs, fairings, to the cams and rear suspension, even the front brakes. What a joke 😂
I’m 6’2” learned on my 2021 lowrider s . 62 years old. Forward controls, 9”riser3”pull back. Stage 3. Rinehart slip ons. NO BAGS no windshield. It vibrates!? It handles. It’s fantastic!
Late to the party here. But I really appreciate you making this video. And shedding a light on these issues. Particularly about the vibrations. Haven’t seen any other youtuber having the balls to bring that up. This is why I’ve been subbed for years. You’re not afraid of telling people how it REALLY is. No bs. Straight up, Respect. Can’t say that about any other youtuber. So on to the vibration. Since I sold my ST because of this. I bought a Low rider 107 softail also. Didn’t have as much vibes as the ST. But it still had it. And I couldn’t stand my fingers, feet & bum going numb again. Then I did what others have done experiencing this issue. I went to the Dyna as a last attempt. I test rode a Dyna Low Rider S, with a 117” in it. And a list of other goodie’s. Let me tell you this. It was pure love on the first ride. So I immediately bought it. And have been loving every second I’m on it. It’s so much more comfortable. The Dyna doesn’t have ANY of the vibrations as the ST and newer softails. Zero. None. So I would highly recommend getting a Dyna to someone else, that’s experiencing the vibration issues on the ST & the softails. I’ve never been this happy and felt this amount of love for a bike before. I’m never getting rid of it. All hail the king. Fxdls forever man🤘🏻
That's awesome man, I appreciate the kind words - There are definitely ways to mitigate/solve the issues I mentioned, however, the FXDLS is a tried and true bike as well hence why I still have one that is about to hit 70K miles - Appreciate you sharing your journey man!
The early version so to speak of the LRST is the Sport Glide. For taller riders it has the benefit of forward controls. Put with a seat such as MoCo’s “Tallboy” seat that puts you up and back it especially with the bars of your choice makes for an ergonomically comfortable ride. Well naturally accompanied by a much taller windshield for the factory fairing or taller aftermarket fairing. At 58 & 6’4 36” inseam I’ve put on over 1,000 miles in a day and 45k since I bought it 4 years ago. No reason a Tallboy or similar and or forwards cannot be used on an LRST. Naturally some have a definite preference to mids or forwards and that may dictate that for an individual the point being these options are out their for the taller rider. I setup my Sport Glide very similar to a LRST long before their was an LRST with the taller 56mm shock and Bung Kings spacers for a 2.25” lift which improved geometry gained needed available lean angle and brought the bike up so I no longer looked like I was sitting on a mini bike. 135hp & big brakes like you I am no longer interested in trading it in but I’m happy to see the continuing sales & development with Harley’s sport touring / muscle cruiser.
Nice man! Sounds like you did it right - Once you find the winning formula there's nothing like it, glad to hear you did some 1ks in a day on that bike!
Fantastic overview man, so many relatable points for all potential buyers. My wife traded in her CVO Street Glide earlIer this year for a 2023 LRST, and although she's currently struggling with comfortability (she is 6'0), we're confident that she's a couple of minor mods away from loving it!
You killed this video. I own a 2021 Streetbob. I’m going to the dealership this weekend to test ride the 2024 lowrider ST. My Streetbob now has a Memphis shades night warrior fairing, kuryakyn road thunder Bluetooth speaker, Viking detachable hardbags, and various performance/aesthetic upgrades. When I bought my Streetbob there were no touring style softtails. After seeing this 2024 lowrider ST I fell in love. But essentially I would just be buying the slightly larger 117 engine (from the 114) and I’d have to pay extras for the upgrade to add the speakers. Should I do it or just stick with my bike?
That's a tough one man, I have a friend who has built out a FXBB to be an absolute beast, but you'll be missing some really nice things such as better suspension, bigger engine, and cruise control - Best advice is to go test ride one!
I will say “If owning a ST is Wrong ?…Then I don’t want to be right.” But yes I am 5’7 as well and this bike fits all my wants and desires better than the 21 street glide that I traded it in for. I very much agree with your video , and please keep them coming , and the good work , Aloha from Maui Hawaii 🤙🏼
Couldn't agree with you more - Definitely a bike I will never be letting go especially if they stop making it or change it up dramatically - Thing must be a blast to rip on that island!
I think you would find it interesting coming off of the bagger - We'll see what the 2024 iteration looks like - Thanks as always for checking it out guys! 🏁 ⚡️
I've been riding the FXLRST for a year, as my fourth HD. I love that it is much lighter and handier than my old Road King. The weight of the Touring Bagger became oppressive to me, and the Low Rider ST is just so much easier to ride all day. The weight of the bagger just tires me out over a long day. And the FXLRST has more power and great brakes. The body and foot position took a bit of getting used to, and I had to reposition the rear brake pedal. Once that was done, the FXLRST was for me.
I got rid of those deathtraps of a stock tires and went for the Metzeler Cruisetec, what an amazing tire, the bike feels 150lbs lighter and can be thrown in corners like a sports bike now. Biggest singles improvement I've ever noticed on any change I made to any bike. AI also slightly "over filled" my tubes with a tad more oil to stiffen up the very soft front end. Never had any death wobble or vibrations since (ruffly 10k miles now). And one old school trick against vibration in handle bars where no weights can be attached, fill them up with birds sand, gets rid of most vibrations and is dead cheap to do.
The vibration is part of the package and the soul of this machine. At first didn't like it, but then after a while I did. I too have a dyna and started out on a Sportster years ago.
Just tipping 10k on my '23 FXLRST and I have to say that it's been an absolute game changer for me. I take that baddie just about anywhere. I agree with what a lot of people are concerned about-- the exhaust being too quiet, the bags being asymmetrical, and the position of the pegs-- but all of these things can be adjusted or replaced. 2024 will be the year of the upgrades for me-- new Bassani exhaust and tuned, as well as mini floor boards, a higher riser, and a new Klock Werks windshield. One of the best minor improvements I've done so far is added screens to the fairing holes, so now I don't have bugs funneling into my helmet lol Great video!
That's what's up man - Yeah man, out of all my bikes it's definitely suited for the purpose of my main road bike at this point, just so damn easy to crush miles on this thing - As for that screen vent, that's a great idea - Appreciate you checking it out! 🏁 ⚡️
Cool video! I'm getting ready for a trip to Champlain NY, from Houston TX on my lowrider st, probably next summer. I'm currently deciding on luggage. I'm just over 6ft, and left the mids on, but I have bung king 2 step high step bars I can use for highway pegs.the fairing is perfect for me living in gulf coast Texas,... I want a little air flow, without buffetting. I love the power, and I like that it sits a bit higher than the other soft tails. I put a sundowner seat on it, changed the air filter so my leg wasn't hitting it, and may change the exhaust... may just put slip on on it, keep it 2n2, just cause everyone is doing 2n1. I should be doing a 5000 mile review in a month or so on my lowrider st, and my fat bob. I've taken 1 long trip on it, to my sister's wedding, which is on my channel, and can say this.... before you change anything, take a trip, a good day out, and day back at least, you will know everything you want to do to the bike at that point, and possibly decide on not changing a few things. I actually like the lockable hard bags, im looking for a good trunk bag, and a bag for the passenger seat for long trips, and I should be good. This bike is awesomeness! But I still like my fat bob, and am more likely to ride it to work and back, being much more comfortable on gravel.. anyways, I love your channel! Thanks for the video!
I dig the video bro! Good work. I took the Road Glide ST out this weekend and went to a couple of dealerships. I will say at 5’8 with a 32 inseam, the LRST fits me like a glove, and I can fully flat foot on the bike. If I’m not in a perfectly flat surface, I can’t do that on the RG. I wanted to do a test ride but the sales folk were being kinda weird about it. I’ll get one in eventually.
Yeah you really need do have to test ride it - Also, I wouldn't let not being flat footed deter you from getting the true bike you want, there are a lot of ways to make that work for you 🏁 ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I got a great seat from Whiplash Speed Company and that helped a lot with the Road Glide, still have to be just right to flat foot but that’s just how it is. Still a great ride and love the bike. Just gotta scratch the curious itch that is the Low Rider ST
Yeah the leather pros are amazing man, I actually run them on all of my bikes - Still on the fence if I want to put them on this bike just because I like having something different, but we'll see!
Been a few years since I’ve ridden. Time to get another one. Test rode the ‘24 Low Rider ST and a Street Glide 2 days ago. loved the LR ST but now that I’m 47 with a bad back and my old lady has one too I’ve accepted the fact that it’s time for a Bagger. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ is what it is. But damn the LR ST was so fun. Don’t worry…. I’ll keep my little sportster for quick trips cutting it up through town!!!
Nice Video. I am in queens NY and ride a 2022 Springfield dark horse. I was looking into getting a harley after my 25 year pause from bikes. After all the comparisons were factored in, I went with indian. But I do like the lowrider ST. Maybe I will see you around town. Enjoy the bike and ride safe!
First video of yours I have watched. I have a 2003 dyna lowrider and have taken trips from Indiana to Tampa Florida and Virginia Beach and some other longish rides. It was doable especially with my mustang seat. I purchased a 2015 road glide ultra for long trips (as I am getting older I like my comfort). When the st came out I almost traded the road glide in for one. But there was just too much comfort I would be giving up. Heated grips and seat, built-in nav. Full bags and trunk etc. all are things that came in handy ( unexpected cold on the journey home, hitting area with no cell service and needed a different road etc. ) if my dyna wasn't a family heirloom at this point I would trade it in for an st. Maybe that carburator sound is Awesome 😎
I had a Low Rider Dyna non-ST. Very nice, but the slip stream of air would constantly push out on my knees. Around town it was no big deal. After a while at speed, it got very tiring keeping my riding position. It got to the point that I was playing with the idea of velcro on a tank cover and my riding jeans to hold my legs in. Though I traded it in before it came to that.
I have a 23 Low Rider ST 131 stage 4 I can tell you after I replaced the seat with a Saddlemans gel seat and Olin’s suspension. Made it a powerful, and comfortable. Oh ya added highway pegs so I could stretch out during long rides.
I bought the low rider st el Diablo and find the the perfect all rounder. We have been racking up some long distance trip but I can still throw a leg over it and just run it into work and back. Perfect for nipping though traffic on a busy morning. I changed the pipes to big radius Vance and Hines and the sound is perfect. I honestly couldn’t thing of a better bike. Ona side note where did you get the Indian Larry plate I would love one
It's crazy man what a difference it makes - I told myself I would go pretty minimal on this bike and just ride it, but when I hear and see some of those cam jobs, it definitely has me thinking 🤔
5'9' thinking of the ST as my first bike. Videos like this are helping my decision, and cam upgrade, single muffler upgrade and dual speedo upgrade would definitetly be my upgrades.
Another great video my man. 👍🏾 I couldn’t agree more. I have test ridden one twice and the new Low Rider S once and I really like it. The LRST and the Road King Special with some sort of windscreen or fairing added are my favorite Harleys by far right now. Both are really fun and comfortable to ride (admittedly, I am 5’6” however).
That's what's up man! I've definitely laid down some solid miles on the Road King, another great bike if you're looking for the stripped down bagger situation
I would love to ride one of these someday they are the only thing that interests me in brand new harleys my 16 electra glide is good enough for now but the st has me thinking of switching it up in the future great videos man
I am very surprised by the “vibration” I never heard that before. I have zero experience of that with my kraus risers. Get a deal on the “S” model with the gauge , then purchase the advanblack st fairing along with some chopped aftermarket lid bags. It will probably be a better cost savings to allow for more accessories and parts to be added then purchasing a st model from a Harley dealership because of the popularity
That's interesting - I was trying to run a cost breakdown like this, and it felt like with at least comparing it to setting it up with a retro RT fairing, just going the straight ST route would save you money - Anyway, how has the bike been so far?
love my 22 fxlrst!!! The handling is just too good. It's handling is so smooth! I'm glad i had to wait on the waiting list! #2 in line at my dealership right after the reveal. took about 2 months.
Great video. I'm considering trading my FXDB(14) and my FLTR(08) for a LowRider ST. I just don't know if a single bike will scratch all the itches that get scratched with 2 bikes.
I really like your review. My first HD was a 2011 CVO Street Glide. I traded it for a 2023 Street Glide ST. That M8 117 is freaking amazing, in my opinion. I’m actually looking at getting an FXR for riding around town, just don’t tell my wife.
I would imagine the Softail Slim is probably better from a weight standpoint, also I would imagine it sits lower? I have no experience with that bike so it's hard to say, best thing to do is test ride both!
man i'm super early on this vid! i just bought my white sand pearl st a couple of days ago and do not regret it! I'm coming from a 2020 street bob though
So far way more comfortable on the freeway roads. I mostly commute with the occasional road trips during the summer (my commutes are usually are about an hour one way). This stock beats the street bob easily even after all the mods I did to it. Plus the power on the ST is amazing. @@FXDLSBrooklyn
That vibration will destroy your iPhone camera. The Streetbob is even worse. You may be lucky very lucky and the quad lock damper may work. It did not work for me and others I know. Just FYI.
@@nickthinkpainting1978 in my opinion even having the 2020 street bob for 3 years, and already putting 500 miles on an St before buying one. The vibrations are nowhere near as bad on the ST compared to a street bob. Also, I use a rockform mount and phone case for my andriod. With my street bob i did not see any wear or damage on my phone with the rockform gear. Also in my opinion you bars my vibrate more with certain bushings you're using for your risers. I used solid aluminum riser on my bob and realized how bad they were and went to poly bushings. I won't be making the same mistake on the ST, sorry for the essay response lol
@@notwebster I put 5200 miles on a ST before I sold it. The vibration was less but still enough to wreck my iPhone camera twice. Not why I sold it lol but at 67 yrs old the Streetbob fits me fine. I pound big miles in comfort along with my 93 FXRS.
I, 6'3", added an ST fairing to my Road King Special (with a ClearView XL shield), and I think it does a good job at wind deflection. The shield is definitely more narrow than an FXRT or the factory King shields so you feel it in the arms a bit more than I'd prefer, but that adds very little to rider fatigue, no biggie IMO. What I wasnt happy aboutr was the broken support tabs on the inner fairing for the windshield mounting insert clipped to the inner. Wisconsin roads suck pretty bad, and my inner is broken after ~2.5 months of use. I'm sure the taller windscreen weight isnt helping, but it seems like quite an engineering oversight to have something that is not only supporting weight as well as wind shear pressure be secured via trim clips. It's funny, because if you look at the stereo available for the fairing it utilizes the welded nuts on the fairing main plate to support the weight of the stereo, so why not manufacture the windshield trim to utilize these mounting holes as the stereo does to add support to the top half of the fairing for less than stellar roads?
I love my RG, but I would get one of these for a spare bike. I am 6'4" so I'd make some changes. But I like the ooks except the bags. Maybe put on regular RG bags and a tour pack, for travel.
I loved my time on the ST. I am 6'2'' and I was comfortable on it. When I said I'd take the ST over the Road Glide CVO, people got their feelings hurt. This is the best smiles per miles bike HD makes today. I'd love to have one
great topic and video. i have been considering a new bike for two up riding over my Dyna and this has helped me a lot. My wife and i love to ride together, but we definitely struggle on the dyna for longer trips as i am over 6 foot and with all our gear we are just cramped up. after seeing your video, i do believe my next bike will be a true touring model ( road glide ) thanks for the content!
Just bought one with a 131. I am 6'6". I added forward controls, however, my brother has one with8 the saddleman seat, that makes it comfortable with the mids.. weird.... the 131 took care of the sound for sure!
I am 6 foot 3 or 190cm, got the tall seat from Harley, perfect fit, love the bike, did 3000 miles across France and Switzerland this summer and felt great
Yes forgot to mention that I put foot pegs forward and changed the air filter to a flat screaming eagle model else it would have been in the way of the legs. Amazing bike, perfect mix for me and the 117 is a dream engine
At 5’8” 170 I’m grateful Harley finally made an exciting, premium, tour-ready bike that fits me perfectly. I struggled for months to get a Heritage Classic M8 to fit me - seats, bars, controls, etc. - and finally sold it. Touring models don’t work at all for me, no matter what I do they have me stretched out sitting on my upper hips, not my ass. So I held my nose and toured on a Triumph Tiger for a while (fantastic bike, incredibly comfortable, hate the styling). The ST feels tailor made for my body and I love it. So, agreed, it’s probably better for average to smaller sized people. I will say my Harley sales guy (6’2”) put the standard Harley forward controls on his ST and loves it. Easy mod and it’s his daily driver now.
As a former owner of a 08 FXDL with a 96 twin cam and current owner of a 14 TC 110 SGS that I converted into an Ultra and a 21 M8 FayBoy. I’m very happy with the soul 😂 of the FB. It only has slip ons and a few accessories that make it useful for me. The new soft tail chassis is better in every way than the old Dyna. But, it’s all in perspective…I’m 64 and retired….
I test rode a 2016 LRST, 110 motor. I didn't like it cause of vibration. I have had a 2019 LRS, and currently have have a 2023 LRST, stock bars, and don't notice any vibration. I also have RGST, both are very nice, but for a week in the saddle, the RGST would be choice as it's a close second on performance also.
Nice vid man and thanks for sharing your opinion. I agree about all your arguments, but I want to tell you my story about this bike. On February the first of 2022 I was surely among the first in France after its presentation on January 26 or 27 to order an LRST, at the age of 63 and coming from a 103 Road King Classic, I wanted to upgrade to a lighter motorcycle and this one ticked all the boxes, a Touring light for 10k€ and 80kgs less. But at the beginning of June after a long wait the dealership was still not able to give me a delivery date, perhaps in September or October, so after seeing a lot of motorcycle videos from American moto-vloggers who already had the machine, I started to doubt, too black, too modern, the saddlebags too high, the speedometer too minimalist and I wasn't sure I wanted a fixed fairing either when I've always had Harleys with windshields, So I canceled my order and ordered a Sport Glide. But while I appreciated the M8 engine, the handling, the practicality and the versatility, I found that it didn't suit my rather classic style, so after 3 months and 6000 miles, I decided to return to something that suited my tastes more, a Heritage 107ci and I found my bearings again having riden for 12 years on this same model in 1340cc, but this time with all the advantages of the new chassis as well as the M8 engine. Then by riding this super easy to handle motorcycle with much better handling than the old ones, I rediscovered the pleasure of spirit riding on a motorcycle and I started to want a more "sporty" and more fun model and then I came across a Low Rider S 114, I fell in love with the look and the spirit of this machine which reminded me of my Ducati 900ss from 1979. At the begining I had a lot of trouble adapting to its unsuitable driving position for my long legs, but today after 3 months and 4000 miles and many mods, risers, seat, higher shock absorber and more, I found my place and I never tire of it anymore so much so that I put my Heritage up for sale and I still have lots of projects to improve it even more. So the circle is complete, I am almost back to square one in February 2022 as the Low Rider S is so close to the ST, but I don't think I will come there because I really like my LRS and with the mods that I will bring him again he will truly be mine. But I really appreciate what you say about the ST, it's also a bike that has to be earned and when you put in the effort you can get a lot of pleasure from it. Ride safe and continue to make good vids...
Dude that is a wild story! Yeah I don't think you need to necessarily sell the Low Rider S, there's things you can do to make it work for the long miles! You should check out my friends Vongasphalt on instagram, also from France
I appreciate this video. I'm looking at a Harley. By a harley I mean an evo fxr, a dyna, or I'm also halfway considering the ST. This has been the most concise answer I've found to a question I gave up on months ago. Thank you.
Right on! I mean, this is a good problem for you to have - Any of those ways you decide to go, you’re getting an excellent bike - I would definitely urge you to put some miles on the ST first, if I had to choose one sole bike for the purpose of everything, it would probably be the ST
I ran 10” boosted Brad risers with alloy art bushings and hade little to no vibration. The first set of risers I had were kraus and they were terrible with the solid and alloy art bushings. Made the mirrors useless. I think the vibration is different depending on your riser setup.
Great topic man. I love turning cons into pros. I'm 6.1 185 and the bike fits me like a glove, never been more comfortable on a Harley, and that was before I changed the seat and the bars. Those mids are in a perfect position for me. I honestly got too bored on a bagger because it was too comfortable and smooth. Personally I can't stand fixed fairings, so I went with the FXLRS variant. Plus, leather pros hold way more stuff although I do like the stock ST bags. Vibration? It's a motorcycle, get over it or buy a Goldwing, or a car 😂
Yeah coming from running mids on my other four bikes, this one feels the furthest forwards, so I could see how that would work for you - I actually kind of want to change mine to be further in, or to create a seat that would push me further up 🏁 ⚡️
I was going to get one had one Harley vrod then got rid of it I build a chopper style looking get the fast Johnnie got approved still thinking on it so not in my area about four months out the year
I didn't get rid of my street glide, but a also bought a low rider st too. With 2k miles on the st I'm not sure where I'm going yet. I can tell you its nice to have options. Also have had multiple dina`s over the last 20 some years. As an older rider "68" it's nice to get a little lighter bike. 117 is an awesome motor. Enjoy your content. Thanks
That'd be the reason I'd see picking this over a bagger... Older or shorter folks (no offense I'm a 50 something myself)... I own both a built Dyna LRS and built Streetglide. Everyone else just get a bagger. LRS are cool for what they don't have, a ripper without all the stuff hanging off. Baggers with real shocks can rip the twisties with the right rider, despite what alot believe.
Nailed it again! I've looked at trading my beloved Sport Glide for a Low Rider ST, but for the money (my Sport Glide is paid off), I can add on the extras needed to get it close to the ST. Folks mention the different sizes of the saddlebags, but as I used to tell my potential Road Glide customers who didn't like the fairing: "Sit on the bike. How does the fairing look now?" "I don't know, I can't see it." was their response. "Exactly," I said. The same is true for the saddlebags, you can't see them when you're sitting on the bike. My only real "complaint" about my ride is that I still get some buffeting with the El Diablo fairing. It's not that bad and I wear a modular helmet so it's barely noticeable. Ok, I have one more gripe and that has little to do with the bike. Finding a handlebar mount for my iPhone is tough because of the vibration issues with the phone. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Right on man - That's pretty sick you have the El Diablo, definitely going to go down as a legendary release - I'm pretty sure the big phone mount brands such as Rokform and Quadlock have phone mounts that dampen the vibration, so you should be good!
I’m 6 foot and have had my Sport Glide since 2021. Love it! Now have 35,000klms on it and trouble free. Detachable Memphis Shades El Paso sport screen for touring, Stage 1 with Vance and Hines Big Radius and it’s done. So, I just finished a test ride on the ST. No thanks and reasons are: 1. Vibes through the handlebars are very noticeable 2. Chocked up seating positions and mid pegs are too high. Give me forwards any day. 3. Engine heat out of the 117 compared to the 107 is very noticeable. 4. The 117 has the beans over a 107 - no dispute there….but the brakes on the ST are crap! 5. The fairing has loads of buffeting, which was really surprising. The El Paso Memphis Shades on my Sport Glide is so much better 6. General looks, well that’s personal. But the bags just look too high on the ST whereas they look great and low on the Sport Glide. The SG has the right amount of chrome/black whereas the ST with black and crinkle black all over just doesn’t have the same amount of pop for me. But that’s wholly subjective and some might like all blacked out and power to you if that’s your jam. Bottom line, is there enough in the ST to want me to upgrade from my SG? Definitely no. But glad I took the ST for a good test ride to work that all out for myself.
Welp... I have a 21 Low Rider S, a 2023 Road Glide Fast Johnnie, still upgrading parts making them my own.... but I really really really want a 2023 white Low Rider ST... it may take me a year or two, but I'm going to get it! 🏍💨
As a gamer, as well as a biker, you got me with this thumbnail lol. For me, the only thing I couldn't handle were the stupid asymmetrical bags. I ended up getting a low rider s and I'm planning on finding bags and a fairing that match my style. I like your content! Thanks from a new sub.
The Lowrider ST is definitely better suited for shorter riders. Anyone of average height or taller riding hundreds of miles a day needs a bagger especially riding 2 up.
Inseam is probably more important. I’m not tall but have a short inseam and it’s a reach to the ground especially after the sdc saddleman. I’m tip toeing bad. But it’s still rad and I won’t let it go ever
2019 Sport Glide bumped to 114 and a bunch of other stuff. Traded it in for a Street Glide Standard- HATED IT!!! Going from a nimble bike to a tank. Just traded it in for an ST. And away we go. A clean sheet to make mine.
I saw the white when it came out and new i needed one also. So one at the dealer a couple weeks agoand new its now or never also. 6'4 but im 45 and hope to be shrinking soon😂 also not my only bike but i enjoy the smaller frame of softails and this thing is amazing compared to my 07 softails
Hey bro how tall are you and how high are your bat's I'm 5' 9" and looking into bars for my lowrider st what do you run amd what's the pull back on your bars
I actually had a road glide special and traded it in for a lowrider st, I’m a shorter rider and going to a lowrider st from my road glide was night and day love my road glide but the lowrider st just feels a lot better personally of course
On the vibration issue: I had a triumph street triple. That bike had some serious grip vibration. It would make my hands numb and couldn’t ride more than 30 minutes.
hi man, i dont use to comment yt video but this time i ll close an eye. Talking about vibration, you bring it on my attension and it's right my low rider s (now i mount an st fairing) have some vibes on the bar and in long rides i lost my hand sensivity lol; i have to say, sometimes it s annoying but i noticed that it s almost disappeared after i installed 8,5'' drag specialities pullback risers.
Is there any buffeting with this faring? I bought a T-sport fairing for my low rider S and the buffeting is miserable. Im 5'7 170 and was thinking of buying the st faring from advan black but dont want to wate the money.
Does anyone have a link to break down the changes in model years from 2022, 2023 and 2024 on the LRST? cant really find anything outside of paint scheme. Great Video
@@FXDLSBrooklyn better handling, much better bags, pockets inside the fairing, less stretched out seating position. For me, the RG is just a much better bike overall. My little bro love the ST though and says the RG is too big for him. He is 5’8 Im maybe 5’10 on a good day.
Just bought one same color. I have 10" risers with moto bars and vibration is worse than my road glide but love the bike! I am 6'2" and have no issues. Added saddleman seat. Every bike needs or should have some mods. Added taller windscreen to match height of bars. Bike sounds the worst of any new harley i have ever owned. Waiting on gallop rocket 2-1. Will change that issue soon! Absolutely love the bike! Safe travels!
Ive got a full custom early gen dyna and now my ST. Was super hesitant on trying a softail/m8 finally pulled the trigger this year and my only regret was not doing it sooner. stage 2 on the st is perfect. Only reason ill pull the dyna out anymore is it is my wheelie bike otherwise the ST is killer.
99 dyna, 95ci full suspension paint etc. its a ripper, but my ST joined the fleet as a reliable daily bike, as well as my longer rides "touring bike". Now i can thrash the 99 all i want and still enjoy a nice warrantied bike with all the rider comforts like electric cruise more wind block, tcs abs etc.. @@FXDLSBrooklyn
Nice video my friend, I do love the ST, I really want one, I have a 2019 low rider standard, basically the same bike, thinking of just adding bags and now can buy the fairing. I have a gut feeling Harley will change up those few concerns you mentioned for 2024. The one thing I don’t like is the Bronze accents and wheels, I know that’s pure objective, would rather have a gloss black wheel or even a chrome option. As far as the bags, I hate them not so much the different size but the clam shell design, horrible. I also have a BMW K1300S again clam shell bags, hate them. Now that’s where the Harley baggers shine, hopefully Harley changes the bags to match more of there touring design but a tad smaller as not to look overkill on the softail being a smaller bike. But like you thinking Harley has an awesome sport touring bike here, with a couple updates I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes there best selling bike.
Much appreciated!! As for the wheels, one of the things I actually regret doing with that bike is powder coating the wheels black - I feel like when Harley drops bronze/gold mags like that, it's usually only temporarily and they become sought after decades later, sort of like how this happened with one of the anniversary low riders - I think I agree with your assessment though, wait to see what 2024 brings, Harley had been doing pretty well with decision making the last few years, looking forward to seeing what comes!
My neighbor has one & I have ridden it several times the only things I have a problem with is the rear brake sucks & the suspension is too soft & of course the M8 motor needs lots of improvements starting at the flywheels !
23 st solid bushings 12' kick back risers and bars i have 0 complaints, i came off a street glide with solid mounts and tbars.... talk about vibrations and feeling every bump i owned it for 3 months and traded that garbage in
I’m 6’ tall…forward controls handled it for comfort. Wind buffeting was handled by going with the lower 2” windshield. Best street bike I’ve owned out of over 30 bikes. Absolutely love my ST!
Interesting that you would go lower on the shield rather than higher
May I ask the cost of doing the forward controls? Thank you.
Great video. I love this bike. This bike is the only reason I own a Harley. Like you said, it's all subjective and each person likes what they like.
For me, the fxlrst is it.
1. Vibration: everyone changes the bars and or risers. It's gonna happen. Kraus makes a riser that puts the riser bushings at stock distance from bars no matter what height you go with. Problem eliminated. But the vibration doesn't bother me at all. I have thrashing 9.5 risers with stock bars. It also has cruise control so I can alternate which hand I have on the bars as often as I like .
2. The bags: leather pros really do look better on this bike and hold way more stuff. A person can sell their stock bags for more than leather pros cost.
3. Forward controls with mini floorboards give the stretch needed for taller guys and still allows for a mid riding position for better handling. They're more like mid-forwards.
4. The fairing kinda sucks. But it does it's job. A taller windshield is a must.
5. Seat, foot controls and bars/risers. Seems to solve the problem. And it's something everybody does anyway.
6. Everybody is also gonna change the exhaust immediately. I waited a week and that was because that's how long the exhaust took to be delivered. This bike is a blank canvas. If it doesn't have soul it's because the owner hasn't shared their soul with it yet.
You said it all - Thanks for checking it out and taking the time to weigh in here 🏁⚡️
Harley is the only brand that can make it's customers buy a 20-30-40 thousand dollar bike and have to spend several thousand more on it just to make it ridable/enjoyable. From the seats, to saddlebags, handlebars, foot pegs, fairings, to the cams and rear suspension, even the front brakes. What a joke 😂
@@uttamgala7186 hey, I hope you enjoy riding whatever bike you have as much as I enjoy my Harley. Ride on homie. ✌🏽
I’m 6’1 185lbs and I honestly have had no problems with comfortability while riding my low rider ST so I’m happy about that
Yeah it’s good to hear man, there’s definitely a real myth going around that taller riders can’t swing it, but it can definitely be done.
I’m 6’2” learned on my 2021 lowrider s . 62 years old. Forward controls, 9”riser3”pull back. Stage 3. Rinehart slip ons. NO BAGS no windshield. It vibrates!? It handles. It’s fantastic!
That's really rad to learn at that age, glad you found riding ⚡️
First time watching one of your videos. Love your style man I subscribed.
Really appreciate that Chuck - Great to have you on the team!
Late to the party here. But I really appreciate you making this video. And shedding a light on these issues. Particularly about the vibrations. Haven’t seen any other youtuber having the balls to bring that up. This is why I’ve been subbed for years. You’re not afraid of telling people how it REALLY is. No bs. Straight up, Respect. Can’t say that about any other youtuber.
So on to the vibration. Since I sold my ST because of this. I bought a Low rider 107 softail also. Didn’t have as much vibes as the ST. But it still had it. And I couldn’t stand my fingers, feet & bum going numb again.
Then I did what others have done experiencing this issue. I went to the Dyna as a last attempt. I test rode a Dyna Low Rider S, with a 117” in it. And a list of other goodie’s. Let me tell you this. It was pure love on the first ride. So I immediately bought it. And have been loving every second I’m on it. It’s so much more comfortable. The Dyna doesn’t have ANY of the vibrations as the ST and newer softails. Zero. None. So I would highly recommend getting a Dyna to someone else, that’s experiencing the vibration issues on the ST & the softails. I’ve never been this happy and felt this amount of love for a bike before. I’m never getting rid of it. All hail the king. Fxdls forever man🤘🏻
That's awesome man, I appreciate the kind words - There are definitely ways to mitigate/solve the issues I mentioned, however, the FXDLS is a tried and true bike as well hence why I still have one that is about to hit 70K miles - Appreciate you sharing your journey man!
The early version so to speak of the LRST is the Sport Glide. For taller riders it has the benefit of forward controls. Put with a seat such as MoCo’s “Tallboy” seat that puts you up and back it especially with the bars of your choice makes for an ergonomically comfortable ride. Well naturally accompanied by a much taller windshield for the factory fairing or taller aftermarket fairing. At 58 & 6’4 36” inseam I’ve put on over 1,000 miles in a day and 45k since I bought it 4 years ago. No reason a Tallboy or similar and or forwards cannot be used on an LRST. Naturally some have a definite preference to mids or forwards and that may dictate that for an individual the point being these options are out their for the taller rider.
I setup my Sport Glide very similar to a LRST long before their was an LRST with the taller 56mm shock and Bung Kings spacers for a 2.25” lift which improved geometry gained needed available lean angle and brought the bike up so I no longer looked like I was sitting on a mini bike. 135hp & big brakes like you I am no longer interested in trading it in but I’m happy to see the continuing sales & development with Harley’s sport touring / muscle cruiser.
Nice man! Sounds like you did it right - Once you find the winning formula there's nothing like it, glad to hear you did some 1ks in a day on that bike!
Fantastic overview man, so many relatable points for all potential buyers. My wife traded in her CVO Street Glide earlIer this year for a 2023 LRST, and although she's currently struggling with comfortability (she is 6'0), we're confident that she's a couple of minor mods away from loving it!
That's what's up man! Yeah there's a lot of things you can do to make it work, how's she like it compared to the CVO?
@@FXDLSBrooklynshe hated it 😂😂😂 wish I saw this before I sold the CVO 😂😂😂
Ended up cutting my losses and bought a SG st 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
You killed this video. I own a 2021 Streetbob. I’m going to the dealership this weekend to test ride the 2024 lowrider ST. My Streetbob now has a Memphis shades night warrior fairing, kuryakyn road thunder Bluetooth speaker, Viking detachable hardbags, and various performance/aesthetic upgrades. When I bought my Streetbob there were no touring style softtails. After seeing this 2024 lowrider ST I fell in love. But essentially I would just be buying the slightly larger 117 engine (from the 114) and I’d have to pay extras for the upgrade to add the speakers. Should I do it or just stick with my bike?
That's a tough one man, I have a friend who has built out a FXBB to be an absolute beast, but you'll be missing some really nice things such as better suspension, bigger engine, and cruise control - Best advice is to go test ride one!
I will say “If owning a ST is Wrong ?…Then I don’t want to be right.” But yes I am 5’7 as well and this bike fits all my wants and desires better than the 21 street glide that I traded it in for. I very much agree with your video , and please keep them coming , and the good work , Aloha from Maui Hawaii 🤙🏼
Couldn't agree with you more - Definitely a bike I will never be letting go especially if they stop making it or change it up dramatically - Thing must be a blast to rip on that island!
Yes , for sure nothing beats riding in paradise.
Also 5 '7 and it's a perfect fit. I had a StreetGlide before and no regrets. Come to the Dark side.
Why would anyone trade street glide for that..?
Awesome video bud. Definitely need to ride one someday.
I think you would find it interesting coming off of the bagger - We'll see what the 2024 iteration looks like - Thanks as always for checking it out guys! 🏁 ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I've been riding the FXLRST for a year, as my fourth HD. I love that it is much lighter and handier than my old Road King. The weight of the Touring Bagger became oppressive to me, and the Low Rider ST is just so much easier to ride all day. The weight of the bagger just tires me out over a long day. And the FXLRST has more power and great brakes. The body and foot position took a bit of getting used to, and I had to reposition the rear brake pedal. Once that was done, the FXLRST was for me.
I got rid of those deathtraps of a stock tires and went for the Metzeler Cruisetec, what an amazing tire, the bike feels 150lbs lighter and can be thrown in corners like a sports bike now. Biggest singles improvement I've ever noticed on any change I made to any bike.
AI also slightly "over filled" my tubes with a tad more oil to stiffen up the very soft front end. Never had any death wobble or vibrations since (ruffly 10k miles now). And one old school trick against vibration in handle bars where no weights can be attached, fill them up with birds sand, gets rid of most vibrations and is dead cheap to do.
The vibration is part of the package and the soul of this machine. At first didn't like it, but then after a while I did. I too have a dyna and started out on a Sportster years ago.
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Just tipping 10k on my '23 FXLRST and I have to say that it's been an absolute game changer for me. I take that baddie just about anywhere. I agree with what a lot of people are concerned about-- the exhaust being too quiet, the bags being asymmetrical, and the position of the pegs-- but all of these things can be adjusted or replaced. 2024 will be the year of the upgrades for me-- new Bassani exhaust and tuned, as well as mini floor boards, a higher riser, and a new Klock Werks windshield. One of the best minor improvements I've done so far is added screens to the fairing holes, so now I don't have bugs funneling into my helmet lol Great video!
That's what's up man - Yeah man, out of all my bikes it's definitely suited for the purpose of my main road bike at this point, just so damn easy to crush miles on this thing - As for that screen vent, that's a great idea - Appreciate you checking it out! 🏁 ⚡️
bought the Fast Johnnie ST, i LOVE IT. rockford fosgate soundsystem is great!
That's what's up! 🏁 ⚡️
Not a Lowrider ST owner, but I never noticed the bags! I can’t unsee it now 😂
Same
Cool video! I'm getting ready for a trip to Champlain NY, from Houston TX on my lowrider st, probably next summer. I'm currently deciding on luggage. I'm just over 6ft, and left the mids on, but I have bung king 2 step high step bars I can use for highway pegs.the fairing is perfect for me living in gulf coast Texas,... I want a little air flow, without buffetting. I love the power, and I like that it sits a bit higher than the other soft tails. I put a sundowner seat on it, changed the air filter so my leg wasn't hitting it, and may change the exhaust... may just put slip on on it, keep it 2n2, just cause everyone is doing 2n1. I should be doing a 5000 mile review in a month or so on my lowrider st, and my fat bob. I've taken 1 long trip on it, to my sister's wedding, which is on my channel, and can say this.... before you change anything, take a trip, a good day out, and day back at least, you will know everything you want to do to the bike at that point, and possibly decide on not changing a few things. I actually like the lockable hard bags, im looking for a good trunk bag, and a bag for the passenger seat for long trips, and I should be good. This bike is awesomeness! But I still like my fat bob, and am more likely to ride it to work and back, being much more comfortable on gravel.. anyways, I love your channel! Thanks for the video!
That's what up! Which Fat Bob, the Dyna or the M8?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn fat bob is a 2022, lowrider st is a 23.
I dig the video bro! Good work. I took the Road Glide ST out this weekend and went to a couple of dealerships. I will say at 5’8 with a 32 inseam, the LRST fits me like a glove, and I can fully flat foot on the bike. If I’m not in a perfectly flat surface, I can’t do that on the RG. I wanted to do a test ride but the sales folk were being kinda weird about it. I’ll get one in eventually.
Yeah you really need do have to test ride it - Also, I wouldn't let not being flat footed deter you from getting the true bike you want, there are a lot of ways to make that work for you 🏁 ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn I got a great seat from Whiplash Speed Company and that helped a lot with the Road Glide, still have to be just right to flat foot but that’s just how it is. Still a great ride and love the bike. Just gotta scratch the curious itch that is the Low Rider ST
Dude, another spot on vid! 100% agree on all points. I’m one who did put leather pro’s on my ST recently. 🤟
Yeah the leather pros are amazing man, I actually run them on all of my bikes - Still on the fence if I want to put them on this bike just because I like having something different, but we'll see!
I had a 1999 FXDX Streetglide Sport. Now that’s what I call VIBRATION‼️looked like the engine was going to fly out of the frame.
haha I know what you mean man, I also have 2001 DX - There are definitely ways to mitigate this with motor mounts and stabilizers
Been a few years since I’ve ridden. Time to get another one. Test rode the ‘24 Low Rider ST and a Street Glide 2 days ago. loved the LR ST but now that I’m 47 with a bad back and my old lady has one too I’ve accepted the fact that it’s time for a Bagger. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ is what it is. But damn the LR ST was so fun.
Don’t worry…. I’ll keep my little sportster for quick trips cutting it up through town!!!
Nice Video. I am in queens NY and ride a 2022 Springfield dark horse. I was looking into getting a harley after my 25 year pause from bikes. After all the comparisons were factored in, I went with indian. But I do like the lowrider ST. Maybe I will see you around town. Enjoy the bike and ride safe!
Right on man! I pass through Queens quite often, what part are you around?
First video of yours I have watched. I have a 2003 dyna lowrider and have taken trips from Indiana to Tampa Florida and Virginia Beach and some other longish rides. It was doable especially with my mustang seat. I purchased a 2015 road glide ultra for long trips (as I am getting older I like my comfort). When the st came out I almost traded the road glide in for one. But there was just too much comfort I would be giving up. Heated grips and seat, built-in nav. Full bags and trunk etc. all are things that came in handy ( unexpected cold on the journey home, hitting area with no cell service and needed a different road etc. ) if my dyna wasn't a family heirloom at this point I would trade it in for an st. Maybe that carburator sound is Awesome 😎
100% do not get ride of that Low Rider - What is the paint and rims on that dyna?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn 100th anniversary black paint on tank and rear fender front fender just black twisted spoke front too bad we cannot share pics here.
I had a Low Rider Dyna non-ST. Very nice, but the slip stream of air would constantly push out on my knees. Around town it was no big deal. After a while at speed, it got very tiring keeping my riding position. It got to the point that I was playing with the idea of velcro on a tank cover and my riding jeans to hold my legs in. Though I traded it in before it came to that.
You must be on the taller side
Man, I really enjoyed this video. Thanks for sharing.
Yeah this was an important one - I appreciate you checking it out!
I have a 23 Low Rider ST 131 stage 4
I can tell you after I replaced the seat with a Saddlemans gel seat and Olin’s suspension. Made it a powerful, and comfortable. Oh ya added highway pegs so I could stretch out during long rides.
Good points but you forgot about the incredible sound systems on the baggers. Where do you put your amps and subs?
You don't - Get a Lexin G16 going in your helmet and save some weight on the bike 🏁 ⚡️
@@FXDLSBrooklynno speakers no fun.
I bought the low rider st el Diablo and find the the perfect all rounder. We have been racking up some long distance trip but I can still throw a leg over it and just run it into work and back. Perfect for nipping though traffic on a busy morning. I changed the pipes to big radius Vance and Hines and the sound is perfect. I honestly couldn’t thing of a better bike. Ona side note where did you get the Indian Larry plate I would love one
Congrats man, that bike will definitely stand the test of time - They should have those covers on the website
my 2020 FXLRS with wood 22XE cam and thrashin 2-1 sounds super gnar, I love it
It's crazy man what a difference it makes - I told myself I would go pretty minimal on this bike and just ride it, but when I hear and see some of those cam jobs, it definitely has me thinking 🤔
5'9' thinking of the ST as my first bike. Videos like this are helping my decision, and cam upgrade, single muffler upgrade and dual speedo upgrade would definitetly be my upgrades.
Who offers an alternate for the speedo?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn using the S speedo
Another great video my man. 👍🏾 I couldn’t agree more. I have test ridden one twice and the new Low Rider S once and I really like it. The LRST and the Road King Special with some sort of windscreen or fairing added are my favorite Harleys by far right now. Both are really fun and comfortable to ride (admittedly, I am 5’6” however).
That's what's up man! I've definitely laid down some solid miles on the Road King, another great bike if you're looking for the stripped down bagger situation
I would love to ride one of these someday they are the only thing that interests me in brand new harleys my 16 electra glide is good enough for now but the st has me thinking of switching it up in the future great videos man
Appreciate you checking it out! Definitely worth test riding if you haven't thrown a leg over one yet!
I am very surprised by the “vibration” I never heard that before. I have zero experience of that with my kraus risers. Get a deal on the “S” model with the gauge , then purchase the advanblack st fairing along with some chopped aftermarket lid bags. It will probably be a better cost savings to allow for more accessories and parts to be added then purchasing a st model from a Harley dealership because of the popularity
That's interesting - I was trying to run a cost breakdown like this, and it felt like with at least comparing it to setting it up with a retro RT fairing, just going the straight ST route would save you money - Anyway, how has the bike been so far?
love my 22 fxlrst!!! The handling is just too good. It's handling is so smooth! I'm glad i had to wait on the waiting list! #2 in line at my dealership right after the reveal. took about 2 months.
This was definitely a bike worth waiting for! Cheers man!
Great video. I'm considering trading my FXDB(14) and my FLTR(08) for a LowRider ST. I just don't know if a single bike will scratch all the itches that get scratched with 2 bikes.
I would argue that if a bike was going to scratch both those itches, it would definitely be the Low Rider ST - Keep us posted! 🏁 ⚡️
I really like your review. My first HD was a 2011 CVO Street Glide. I traded it for a 2023 Street Glide ST. That M8 117 is freaking amazing, in my opinion. I’m actually looking at getting an FXR for riding around town, just don’t tell my wife.
haha secret is safe here 🤫
Would you say that the lowrider ST would be easier for a short person to ride versus softail slim?
I would imagine the Softail Slim is probably better from a weight standpoint, also I would imagine it sits lower? I have no experience with that bike so it's hard to say, best thing to do is test ride both!
man i'm super early on this vid! i just bought my white sand pearl st a couple of days ago and do not regret it! I'm coming from a 2020 street bob though
Huge congrats man!! How does it compare to the Street Bob so far?
So far way more comfortable on the freeway roads. I mostly commute with the occasional road trips during the summer (my commutes are usually are about an hour one way). This stock beats the street bob easily even after all the mods I did to it. Plus the power on the ST is amazing. @@FXDLSBrooklyn
That vibration will destroy your iPhone camera. The Streetbob is even worse. You may be lucky very lucky and the quad lock damper may work. It did not work for me and others I know. Just FYI.
@@nickthinkpainting1978 in my opinion even having the 2020 street bob for 3 years, and already putting 500 miles on an St before buying one. The vibrations are nowhere near as bad on the ST compared to a street bob. Also, I use a rockform mount and phone case for my andriod. With my street bob i did not see any wear or damage on my phone with the rockform gear. Also in my opinion you bars my vibrate more with certain bushings you're using for your risers. I used solid aluminum riser on my bob and realized how bad they were and went to poly bushings. I won't be making the same mistake on the ST, sorry for the essay response lol
@@notwebster I put 5200 miles on a ST before I sold it. The vibration was less but still enough to wreck my iPhone camera twice. Not why I sold it lol but at 67 yrs old the Streetbob fits me fine. I pound big miles in comfort along with my 93 FXRS.
Hahaha. Love the thumbnail. Reminds me of those videos by that one gaming channel.
Harley Davidson motorcycles and video games, goes together like, I don't know 😜 - Thanks for checking it out!
@FXDLSBrooklyn Like Grand Theft Auto The Lost and Damned, Days Gone and other brilliant titles involving bikes. ⚡️
"The vibration is bad"
Me sitting here on my 1990 softail custom (riding over 60mph got my feet feeling like theyre asleep)
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I, 6'3", added an ST fairing to my Road King Special (with a ClearView XL shield), and I think it does a good job at wind deflection. The shield is definitely more narrow than an FXRT or the factory King shields so you feel it in the arms a bit more than I'd prefer, but that adds very little to rider fatigue, no biggie IMO.
What I wasnt happy aboutr was the broken support tabs on the inner fairing for the windshield mounting insert clipped to the inner. Wisconsin roads suck pretty bad, and my inner is broken after ~2.5 months of use. I'm sure the taller windscreen weight isnt helping, but it seems like quite an engineering oversight to have something that is not only supporting weight as well as wind shear pressure be secured via trim clips. It's funny, because if you look at the stereo available for the fairing it utilizes the welded nuts on the fairing main plate to support the weight of the stereo, so why not manufacture the windshield trim to utilize these mounting holes as the stereo does to add support to the top half of the fairing for less than stellar roads?
I love my RG, but I would get one of these for a spare bike. I am 6'4" so I'd make some changes. But I like the ooks except the bags. Maybe put on regular RG bags and a tour pack, for travel.
Right on - Some people definitely do just that!
I'll say I'm 6'2" and the st is still super comfortable for me. I also run the saddlemen touring step up and my lady loves it.
That's good to hear! I definitely got a lot of miles out of that seat as well
I loved my time on the ST. I am 6'2'' and I was comfortable on it. When I said I'd take the ST over the Road Glide CVO, people got their feelings hurt. This is the best smiles per miles bike HD makes today. I'd love to have one
After getting tboned on my 2022 street bob and getting a st. I didn’t notice a difference in vibration.
Yeah not something I really noticed until someone said something
I have 2022 Lowrider S stage 2, I'm having a ball, if I want a fairing and bags I can always do it later, by the way with a stage 2, it rips!!!
Absolutely - It's a very versatile bike in terms of building it out to be whatever you want
great topic and video. i have been considering a new bike for two up riding over my Dyna and this has helped me a lot. My wife and i love to ride together, but we definitely struggle on the dyna for longer trips as i am over 6 foot and with all our gear we are just cramped up. after seeing your video, i do believe my next bike will be a true touring model ( road glide ) thanks for the content!
Excellent video, my 4'11" tall wife is considering getting a Harley... this could be a top pick for her!
100% - Out of all my bikes this definitely sits the lowest
Good vids dude
Appreciate it!
Amazing video as usual man, but I laughed and really appreciated the Forsaken Graveyard from WoW lmao.
Just bought one with a 131. I am 6'6". I added forward controls, however, my brother has one with8 the saddleman seat, that makes it comfortable with the mids.. weird.... the 131 took care of the sound for sure!
Thinking about selling my 09' fxd club style bike....looking to get a 2023 YZ450F an get back into racing SX and MX
Why not have both?! 🏁 ⚡️
I am 6 foot 3 or 190cm, got the tall seat from Harley, perfect fit, love the bike, did 3000 miles across France and Switzerland this summer and felt great
Damn that's the dream trip right there - You didn't need to do forwards or anything?
Yes forgot to mention that I put foot pegs forward and changed the air filter to a flat screaming eagle model else it would have been in the way of the legs. Amazing bike, perfect mix for me and the 117 is a dream engine
How did you get that Moons light to fit? That’s definitely a mod I want to do but hesitant because I’m not sure how to do it
It does require you to drill into the fairing - I shot a video on the install, will work on getting it up soon
At 5’8” 170 I’m grateful Harley finally made an exciting, premium, tour-ready bike that fits me perfectly. I struggled for months to get a Heritage Classic M8 to fit me - seats, bars, controls, etc. - and finally sold it. Touring models don’t work at all for me, no matter what I do they have me stretched out sitting on my upper hips, not my ass.
So I held my nose and toured on a Triumph Tiger for a while (fantastic bike, incredibly comfortable, hate the styling).
The ST feels tailor made for my body and I love it. So, agreed, it’s probably better for average to smaller sized people. I will say my Harley sales guy (6’2”) put the standard Harley forward controls on his ST and loves it. Easy mod and it’s his daily driver now.
As a former owner of a 08 FXDL with a 96 twin cam and current owner of a 14 TC 110 SGS that I converted into an Ultra and a 21 M8 FayBoy.
I’m very happy with the soul 😂 of the FB. It only has slip ons and a few accessories that make it useful for me. The new soft tail chassis is better in every way than the old Dyna. But, it’s all in perspective…I’m 64 and retired….
That's what's up - That 110 is an excellent engine, I got many a good bike trip out of that engine 🏁 ⚡️
I test rode a 2016 LRST, 110 motor. I didn't like it cause of vibration. I have had a 2019 LRS, and currently have have a 2023 LRST, stock bars, and don't notice any vibration. I also have RGST, both are very nice, but for a week in the saddle, the RGST would be choice as it's a close second on performance also.
Yeah it's definitely noticeable compared to the dyna/fxr, not enough to ruin the ride or anything
Great video! Love my LRST.. new subscriber....
Thanks Mike! Great to have you on the team man!
Nice vid man and thanks for sharing your opinion. I agree about all your arguments, but I want to tell you my story about this bike.
On February the first of 2022 I was surely among the first in France after its presentation on January 26 or 27 to order an LRST, at the age of 63 and coming from a 103 Road King Classic, I wanted to upgrade to a lighter motorcycle and this one ticked all the boxes, a Touring light for 10k€ and 80kgs less.
But at the beginning of June after a long wait the dealership was still not able to give me a delivery date, perhaps in September or October, so after seeing a lot of motorcycle videos from American moto-vloggers who already had the machine, I started to doubt, too black, too modern, the saddlebags too high, the speedometer too minimalist and I wasn't sure I wanted a fixed fairing either when I've always had Harleys with windshields, So I canceled my order and ordered a Sport Glide.
But while I appreciated the M8 engine, the handling, the practicality and the versatility, I found that it didn't suit my rather classic style, so after 3 months and 6000 miles, I decided to return to something that suited my tastes more, a Heritage 107ci and I found my bearings again having riden for 12 years on this same model in 1340cc, but this time with all the advantages of the new chassis as well as the M8 engine.
Then by riding this super easy to handle motorcycle with much better handling than the old ones, I rediscovered the pleasure of spirit riding on a motorcycle and I started to want a more "sporty" and more fun model and then I came across a Low Rider S 114, I fell in love with the look and the spirit of this machine which reminded me of my Ducati 900ss from 1979. At the begining I had a lot of trouble adapting to its unsuitable driving position for my long legs, but today after 3 months and 4000 miles and many mods, risers, seat, higher shock absorber and more, I found my place and I never tire of it anymore so much so that I put my Heritage up for sale and I still have lots of projects to improve it even more.
So the circle is complete, I am almost back to square one in February 2022 as the Low Rider S is so close to the ST, but I don't think I will come there because I really like my LRS and with the mods that I will bring him again he will truly be mine.
But I really appreciate what you say about the ST, it's also a bike that has to be earned and when you put in the effort you can get a lot of pleasure from it.
Ride safe and continue to make good vids...
Dude that is a wild story! Yeah I don't think you need to necessarily sell the Low Rider S, there's things you can do to make it work for the long miles! You should check out my friends Vongasphalt on instagram, also from France
@@FXDLSBrooklyn thank's, for sure I will continue to make some upgrades to the LRS to make it more touring capable
I appreciate this video. I'm looking at a Harley. By a harley I mean an evo fxr, a dyna, or I'm also halfway considering the ST. This has been the most concise answer I've found to a question I gave up on months ago. Thank you.
Right on! I mean, this is a good problem for you to have - Any of those ways you decide to go, you’re getting an excellent bike - I would definitely urge you to put some miles on the ST first, if I had to choose one sole bike for the purpose of everything, it would probably be the ST
I ran 10” boosted Brad risers with alloy art bushings and hade little to no vibration. The first set of risers I had were kraus and they were terrible with the solid and alloy art bushings. Made the mirrors useless. I think the vibration is different depending on your riser setup.
That's really interesting - For me, it's only the right mirror that is catching that buzz, the left doesn't vibrate at all 🤷♂️
@@FXDLSBrooklyn could be the mirror. You need to stick a cyclerama 483 in that softail and it’ll outrun that dyna 😉 just ask Kevin
@fxdlsbrooklyn there’s a slug dampener in the left side bar from factory so Harley has recognized this is an issue
Great topic man. I love turning cons into pros. I'm 6.1 185 and the bike fits me like a glove, never been more comfortable on a Harley, and that was before I changed the seat and the bars. Those mids are in a perfect position for me. I honestly got too bored on a bagger because it was too comfortable and smooth. Personally I can't stand fixed fairings, so I went with the FXLRS variant. Plus, leather pros hold way more stuff although I do like the stock ST bags. Vibration? It's a motorcycle, get over it or buy a Goldwing, or a car 😂
Yeah coming from running mids on my other four bikes, this one feels the furthest forwards, so I could see how that would work for you - I actually kind of want to change mine to be further in, or to create a seat that would push me further up 🏁 ⚡️
I was going to get one had one Harley vrod then got rid of it I build a chopper style looking get the fast Johnnie got approved still thinking on it so not in my area about four months out the year
I'm not sure what you mean
I didn't get rid of my street glide, but a also bought a low rider st too. With 2k miles on the st I'm not sure where I'm going yet. I can tell you its nice to have options. Also have had multiple dina`s over the last 20 some years. As an older rider "68" it's nice to get a little lighter bike. 117 is an awesome motor. Enjoy your content. Thanks
That's what's up - I think you said it best "It's good to have options" 🏁 ⚡️
That'd be the reason I'd see picking this over a bagger... Older or shorter folks (no offense I'm a 50 something myself)... I own both a built Dyna LRS and built Streetglide. Everyone else just get a bagger. LRS are cool for what they don't have, a ripper without all the stuff hanging off. Baggers with real shocks can rip the twisties with the right rider, despite what alot believe.
Nailed it again! I've looked at trading my beloved Sport Glide for a Low Rider ST, but for the money (my Sport Glide is paid off), I can add on the extras needed to get it close to the ST. Folks mention the different sizes of the saddlebags, but as I used to tell my potential Road Glide customers who didn't like the fairing: "Sit on the bike. How does the fairing look now?" "I don't know, I can't see it." was their response. "Exactly," I said. The same is true for the saddlebags, you can't see them when you're sitting on the bike. My only real "complaint" about my ride is that I still get some buffeting with the El Diablo fairing. It's not that bad and I wear a modular helmet so it's barely noticeable. Ok, I have one more gripe and that has little to do with the bike. Finding a handlebar mount for my iPhone is tough because of the vibration issues with the phone. Any suggestions would be most welcome.
Right on man - That's pretty sick you have the El Diablo, definitely going to go down as a legendary release - I'm pretty sure the big phone mount brands such as Rokform and Quadlock have phone mounts that dampen the vibration, so you should be good!
Thanks for the recommendations! Ride safe!@@FXDLSBrooklyn
+1 on the quad lock. I have it with the vibration dampener, 5k miles, no issues.
Good to know. Thanks!@@NHill8025
I’m 6 foot and have had my Sport Glide since 2021. Love it! Now have 35,000klms on it and trouble free. Detachable Memphis Shades El Paso sport screen for touring, Stage 1 with Vance and Hines Big Radius and it’s done. So, I just finished a test ride on the ST. No thanks and reasons are:
1. Vibes through the handlebars are very noticeable
2. Chocked up seating positions and mid pegs are too high. Give me forwards any day.
3. Engine heat out of the 117 compared to the 107 is very noticeable.
4. The 117 has the beans over a 107 - no dispute there….but the brakes on the ST are crap!
5. The fairing has loads of buffeting, which was really surprising. The El Paso Memphis Shades on my Sport Glide is so much better
6. General looks, well that’s personal. But the bags just look too high on the ST whereas they look great and low on the Sport Glide. The SG has the right amount of chrome/black whereas the ST with black and crinkle black all over just doesn’t have the same amount of pop for me. But that’s wholly subjective and some might like all blacked out and power to you if that’s your jam.
Bottom line, is there enough in the ST to want me to upgrade from my SG? Definitely no. But glad I took the ST for a good test ride to work that all out for myself.
I have a 17 dyna and still want more soul/feel. My 19 48 is good but neither sounds or feels like my dad's 88 tc. Can't imagine having an m8.
What model is that 88 TC in for your Dad's bike? I have that motor in one of my Dynas
@@FXDLSBrooklyn Heritage Classic. Sounds so good with screamin eagle slipons.
Curious! Would the bags off a road/street glide bolt right on?
If that’s the case get larger and symmetrical bags that way…
People are definitely currently doing that, I've seen a few
Welp... I have a 21 Low Rider S, a 2023 Road Glide Fast Johnnie, still upgrading parts making them my own.... but I really really really want a 2023 white Low Rider ST... it may take me a year or two, but I'm going to get it! 🏍💨
Damn that's going to be a stacked garage - You can always convert the Low Rider S into the ST
As a gamer, as well as a biker, you got me with this thumbnail lol. For me, the only thing I couldn't handle were the stupid asymmetrical bags. I ended up getting a low rider s and I'm planning on finding bags and a fairing that match my style. I like your content! Thanks from a new sub.
Right on man! Glad to have you on board!
Move the bar end weight from the stock bars into the new aftermarket bars and it kills the vibration.
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I have a 22 Softail Standard with 9" risers and you feel the same vibration... it almost feels like a tire.
Truth
The Lowrider ST is definitely better suited for shorter riders. Anyone of average height or taller riding hundreds of miles a day needs a bagger especially riding 2 up.
What's up man! We haven't heard from you in a while, good to hear from you!
@@FXDLSBrooklyn been dyna bro-ing around. Have a good one bro.
Inseam is probably more important. I’m not tall but have a short inseam and it’s a reach to the ground especially after the sdc saddleman. I’m tip toeing bad. But it’s still rad and I won’t let it go ever
Just run a long Legg seat suited for taller riders. Gonna put you further back on the bike. You want more.. foward controls. And a smaller old lady!
I'm 6 foot an love my fxlrs! 30k miles on it and I've only had it 2 years!
The vibration thing made me laugh. My 99 dyna shakes so hard it makes my arms numb. This st is a dream 🤣
10:17 lol
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God, I'm so glad you got a bike without flames--driving me crazy! Great content!
I am only 5'7"but I had to get rid of the mid pegs. Forward control and passenger pegs made this bike as comfortable as any I have ever owned,👍
Interesting! I would never run forwards on this but whatever works!
2019 Sport Glide bumped to 114 and a bunch of other stuff. Traded it in for a Street Glide Standard- HATED IT!!! Going from a nimble bike to a tank. Just traded it in for an ST. And away we go. A clean sheet to make mine.
I saw the white when it came out and new i needed one also. So one at the dealer a couple weeks agoand new its now or never also. 6'4 but im 45 and hope to be shrinking soon😂 also not my only bike but i enjoy the smaller frame of softails and this thing is amazing compared to my 07 softails
Wait so you bought it? If so, huge congrats man!!
Hey bro how tall are you and how high are your bat's I'm 5' 9" and looking into bars for my lowrider st what do you run amd what's the pull back on your bars
5'7 Straight 10'' risers with a 2'' bar - No pullback - However, I'm considering running a pullback soon
I actually had a road glide special and traded it in for a lowrider st, I’m a shorter rider and going to a lowrider st from my road glide was night and day love my road glide but the lowrider st just feels a lot better personally of course
I can understand that for sure - I'm sure you definitely feel a difference in terms of performance 🏁 ⚡️
coming back on this video, I have just a question, what is the seat on Dan's bike ?
thanks for your answer.
The bags look perfect with the twin exhaust that comes with the bike. Barely noticeable from the back and it looks awesome from both sides.
Sir!!! What headlight are you running and can I run it on my low rider S ???
Bad ass review - love it!!
On the vibration issue: I had a triumph street triple. That bike had some serious grip vibration. It would make my hands numb and couldn’t ride more than 30 minutes.
hi man, i dont use to comment yt video but this time i ll close an eye. Talking about vibration, you bring it on my attension and it's right my low rider s (now i mount an st fairing) have some vibes on the bar and in long rides i lost my hand sensivity lol; i have to say, sometimes it s annoying but i noticed that it s almost disappeared after i installed 8,5'' drag specialities pullback risers.
Is there any buffeting with this faring? I bought a T-sport fairing for my low rider S and the buffeting is miserable. Im 5'7 170 and was thinking of buying the st faring from advan black but dont want to wate the money.
I don't get any buffeting, but you can always play with shield heights
Does anyone have a link to break down the changes in model years from 2022, 2023 and 2024 on the LRST? cant really find anything outside of paint scheme. Great Video
Were you at Willow Springs Raceway last weekend?
Nope | What was happening out there? It was probably my friend Bado if you thought it was my Dyna
@@FXDLSBrooklyn drags. Dude had an almost identical bike
Ive got quite a few miles on my little brothers ST. i def prefer my Road Glide.
What do you like about the RG over the ST?
@@FXDLSBrooklyn better handling, much better bags, pockets inside the fairing, less stretched out seating position. For me, the RG is just a much better bike overall. My little bro love the ST though and says the RG is too big for him. He is 5’8 Im maybe 5’10 on a good day.
Mmmmmm that sound got me. I can imagine upgrading the dyna v twin 110.
Into this frame?
Just bought one same color. I have 10" risers with moto bars and vibration is worse than my road glide but love the bike! I am 6'2" and have no issues. Added saddleman seat. Every bike needs or should have some mods. Added taller windscreen to match height of bars. Bike sounds the worst of any new harley i have ever owned. Waiting on gallop rocket 2-1. Will change that issue soon! Absolutely love the bike! Safe travels!
Ive got a full custom early gen dyna and now my ST. Was super hesitant on trying a softail/m8 finally pulled the trigger this year and my only regret was not doing it sooner. stage 2 on the st is perfect. Only reason ill pull the dyna out anymore is it is my wheelie bike otherwise the ST is killer.
Right on man that's awesome to hear that someone else is still living in both worlds - What year/model is the dyna?
99 dyna, 95ci full suspension paint etc. its a ripper, but my ST joined the fleet as a reliable daily bike, as well as my longer rides "touring bike". Now i can thrash the 99 all i want and still enjoy a nice warrantied bike with all the rider comforts like electric cruise more wind block, tcs abs etc..
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Nice video my friend, I do love the ST, I really want one, I have a 2019 low rider standard, basically the same bike, thinking of just adding bags and now can buy the fairing. I have a gut feeling Harley will change up those few concerns you mentioned for 2024. The one thing I don’t like is the Bronze accents and wheels, I know that’s pure objective, would rather have a gloss black wheel or even a chrome option. As far as the bags, I hate them not so much the different size but the clam shell design, horrible. I also have a BMW K1300S again clam shell bags, hate them. Now that’s where the Harley baggers shine, hopefully Harley changes the bags to match more of there touring design but a tad smaller as not to look overkill on the softail being a smaller bike. But like you thinking Harley has an awesome sport touring bike here, with a couple updates I wouldn’t be surprised if this becomes there best selling bike.
Much appreciated!! As for the wheels, one of the things I actually regret doing with that bike is powder coating the wheels black - I feel like when Harley drops bronze/gold mags like that, it's usually only temporarily and they become sought after decades later, sort of like how this happened with one of the anniversary low riders - I think I agree with your assessment though, wait to see what 2024 brings, Harley had been doing pretty well with decision making the last few years, looking forward to seeing what comes!
What seat did he put on, for being a taller rider?
It's something by Saddlemen, I have to get the exact 🏁 ⚡️
My neighbor has one & I have ridden it several times the only things I have a problem with is the rear brake sucks & the suspension is too soft & of course the M8 motor needs lots of improvements starting at the flywheels !
LMAO THE THUMBNAIL HAHA NICE REFERENCE
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Anyone know the helmet he’s wearing in the left pic at 0:16? Looks fucking sick
That is a Simpson Outlaw Bandit
23 st solid bushings 12' kick back risers and bars i have 0 complaints, i came off a street glide with solid mounts and tbars.... talk about vibrations and feeling every bump i owned it for 3 months and traded that garbage in
Preach!
Hey, if you go 2 into 1 exhaust is the a deeper saddlebag for that right side that can be installed ?
I don't think that is something HD offers, currently at least