Real Fighter Pilot Dogfights MiGs in Combat Simulator
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- Опубліковано 18 лис 2023
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“Didn’t eject in time. Happens to the best of us.”
Yeah. Once.
Ok Ace 🤣.
Same, didn't pull out in time.
That's how twill5626 got here. XD@@cabralboy91w
Danger zone!! 😂😂😂
Bug out boys. Plan B! Plan B!
little do we know, he's operating a real jet remotely from his living room. Ender's Game style.
Love the comparison
Great book
Remember, the enemies gate is down
Buster Bluth style
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People like this man are the exact kind of people that need to be contacted by the game creators
He wont tell them anything specific.
Not allowed. Everything they do in real life is more classified than the goings on at Area 51.
the reason why a lot of military type games are inaccurate in some parts is because of classified information. You don't want some random general playing an American game and all of the sudden get all the info and tactics that, that country uses.
@@sweetrolldealer War Thunder has entered the chat
you think game devs dont contact actual professionals for input when making sim games?
You know what makes this video great compared to other "real pilots"? You're having fun and not making excuses about controls/classified stuff.
well that's because DCS is just a game and will be frustrating for real military pilots
@@smudent2010 Please explain.
@@heyricksanderNice try, China
@@heyricksander Because videogames arent real life...
LOL@@CramcrumBrewbringer
If you observe his physical responses, his muscle memory simulates the Gs n' pullback of turns and thrusts. That fella right there melded with his craft so completely.
Thanks for noticing. Yep it will be probably be in every video lol and the art is flexing your body while being calm cool and relaxed on the controls
@@MaxAfterburnerusaYou're a real pro! Thanks for the thought process! We also caught some of your paced breathing. May I ask if your reactions are because of the Gs OR it's a trained tensing/breathing technique to fight the effects of drowsiness from such turns?
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Like watching a bird hunt.
I thought that's what I was seeing. I wasn't sure, though.
You can tell he's a real pilot when you see him tilt his head as a Reflex whenever he moves the plane... His brain is expecting the G forces and moves his body unconsciously
i think its because the game is trackin is head so he can move the camera on the game XD
@@Rataldo20didn’t think I were right but you are 100% correct lol. Must be an eye tracker
I guess I'm a real pilot too because when I was about to do a jump in super Mario world I used to move my head expecting G force.
it's an eye-tracking controller. because you have one hand on the stick and the other on the throttle, you have no controls open to move your point of view around, so people either play in VR or with an eye tracker like this guy
@@JohanMGOthank you for your service
you can tell from his head movements that this guy is a real pilot. muscle memory kicking in right there.
I think he's using some sort of head tracker. I'm guessing as this is the first video I've watched of this guy and dont usually watch flight sims, so I might be wrong.
He's using a head tracker to pan his camera around in the game, its kind of like using a VR headset but a little less intensive.
Thought I tracked something. Not really a secret but nice to see that there's things even a layman can see.
I might be wrong but when he was greying out in game he started taking sucking/forceful breaths at the same time.
@@RagingBadger68lol he was just saying that the game does that at 9gs but if you do that (the sucking thing you’re talking about) you can do 9gs
watching your gameplay made it look so easy, yet listening to you explain what you were doing proved how complicated and skilled you are.
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@@highestpeeqs9532shut up
@@highestpeeqs9532 Bro what? Who asked for any of this? I mean, I hope your journey back into the Consciousness that creates everything go well and is peaceful. But, Jesus Christ, relax on the religiosity. lololol
@@highestpeeqs9532Call me back when Jesus comes loaded with Sidewinders. Someone's gotta take down these MIGs
@@highestpeeqs9532I bet you think he was white
I’d have to imagine that after doing the real thing in real life that DCS is nothing more than a novelty to most former fighter pilots.
Yeah but still fun. I just don’t like how the AI pilot almost G locks every time 😂
I mean, if you can't fly the real thing anymore...
@@MaxAfterburnerusayou can change g settings if you set it up yourself in mission editor
Well yeah hes flown.... but no modern fighter pilot in the US has ever been in a dogfight. They use sims just like this one....
@@oneballwizard406they do mock dog fights all the time and there’s still dudes in the airforce that we’re flying over Iraq
This guy needs a VR. Its so cool to see an actual combat fighter instinctively react by muscle memory.
I feel like this would be incredible in VR
It totally is. VR isn't quite there just yet, I prefer triple screen just because it is clearer. But the VR is still a cool feeling in DCS
VTOL is a great game
@dangermuffin6247 in dcs, meta quest 2. Only issue is. You need a 4090 to run it unfortunately
it's a motion sickness sim
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Love how casual you are while the dude your stalking is probably freaking out
Dude is probably like “wtf bro he’s hacking” 😂
Man his muscle memory and instincts are fully hard wired the way his head moves and cranes to look around the cockpit. Such a unique insight and so much fun to watch.
Glad you liked it! When I first read your comment I thought it said "mustache memory" LOL
@@MaxAfterburnerusa 🤣
@@annihilation777 no..
In regard to muscle memory, I had once purchased a TM Cougar on ebay, turns out the seller lived nearby and when I asked her if the controls were comparable to the real thing she said (as an ex AF-Falcon driver) " No, it's not the same response she was accustomed too. A. The throttle (obviously we've all now seen the TM Viper TQS) wasn't the same and the F.L.C.S. had too much travel. There are mods available to the Warthog and Cougar that realistically limit the amount of travel from null to enough but it's my understanding the "enough" was to allow T-Birds to perform their aerobatic sequences as nullifying the movement felt "unnatural". I'll go one further and ask this question...if Angels "bungee pressure" (15lbs nose down) do the Birds also replicate the same nose down at all and with such limited movement available...How? Cheers!!
@@MaxAfterburnerusa I know a few ladies from my Air Force days that still might have that memory! haha
I love the way he intuitively explains everything.
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He would be an excellent instructor.
it's helpful to see what you're doing with the throttle and your commentary, a lot of people don't say how they're managing speed
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@@highestpeeqs9532id be soo pissed if i was jesus
Watching a skilled pilot navigate a Sim is one of the best ways to learn.
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Hmm, i see, no wonder why our pilot is watching this video before taking off the airport. Yes, he forgot to turn off the mic so we can hear it.
…best way to learn what? Who’s learning what in your statement?
I love how you point out the things missing from DCS you get in RL.
I used to work on F-16s in AK when I was in the Air Force. I was a sheetmetal and corrosion guy. Had some good times and met some awesome people. The folks I worked with were top-notch maintainers. Miss them all.
Watching professionals play video games about their profession never gets old.
Yeah man I love Walmart stocker sim.
You should get in contact with Growling Sidewinder and do a few rounds with him!
I agree and not in a competitive manner but just for us viewers to see 2 pilots we like go at it. The fighter pilot community on YT is awesome, Growling sidewinder, Gronky, Hasard Lee, C.W. Lemoine, The fighter pilot podcast guy, and MAX are the few I know of right now. It would be awesome to see these guys all have a tournament!
@@XBLHAX, huh? "not in a competitive manner" is not in the vocab of a fighter pilot...but I would love to see a matchup with GS!
Frankly, he'd get spanked. It might have to do with his rig but he's not doing a good job keeping even basic SA bfming against AI. He gets way too fast, then he gets way too slow when it's absolutely not being forced.
@@appa609who do you mean?
@XBLHAX comparing real life thunderbird pilot/fighter pilots to dcs wannabe pilots like GS 👍
Love how he turned his head like he was actually prepping for G's
I'm pretty sure he's using something similar to TrackIR, so his head movements are to look around. Sorta required for this game if you aren't playing in VR.
i think his track IR is just a bit off , but that was my first thought
I know he is playing a video game, but it’s pretty crazy to be calm in a situation where you are low on fuel, someone is trying to shoot you out of the sky, and your wing is already on fire. Fighter pilots are an interesting breed.
That’s why they’re pilots because they can remain calm in stressful situations….if they freak out they’d probably die.
This is awesome. I like hearing your thought process and relaying information while doing this. Like the bit around 1:10 where you said he possibly lost you and once he made a turn you called that he got eyes on you again.
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Massive respect for you guys. Most of my CO’s in the USMC were F18 or F35 pilots. Nothing is more impressive to me than the thought that you guys know exactly how to fly those beast birds.
I like how he explains how you can hit 9Gs without greying out of you take a quick deep breath and hold.. great video brother
you can tell my man is immersed and every physical response he has you can tell he does the same thing on a real jet, bravo!!
that's crazy. you look super stressed like real life. thanks for your service bro.
When a fighter pilot works from home.
Lol
This was an absolute pleasure to watch. I know nothing about dogfighting but it felt so much like you were the sun and he was orbiting around you.
Imagine loving your job so much you did it for fun in your mancave and made videos and it.
What a stud. Love it.
You had me so convinced for most of the video that when you said you were going to shoot down the other plane and then land while having one wing and in a tailspin.... I believed you.
Dude this is so beyond awesome, it’s a joy watching you do what you do man
Glad you enjoy it! More on the way!
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@@highestpeeqs9532 Jesus also couldn't fly an F-16
Watching your face, you’re doing your breathing like you’re pulling G’s. Muscle memory is a real thing.
The high G grey outs were spooky 😳! Imagine that happening during a real dog fight!😳
Definitely going to happen at least a little in a real dogfight 😵💫
would love to see you go against people like growling sidewinder or longshot
Ya gotta get that VR setup my man, would be sick to see your headmovements:)
He has it on the way or he recently got it and is dialing it in now I believe this video may be older since its from his Patreon. nonetheless. Awesome video!!!
the 9:19 of my time was worth it watching this.. I like it when actual real fighter pilot test the simulation. you can his muscle memory of being a fighter pilot is kicking in. cool to watch!
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I would LOVE to see you do this with some type of VR on, because the head tracking feels weird since you can't take your eyes off the screen to actually look around.
Watching your head move when you move the stick is insane. You know thats a man thats been in the cockpit 😆
Awesome video!!
This is way too entertaining and informative can’t get enough.
Give this man a VR headset, DCS!!
i am absolutely amazed at how Max Afterburner is handling the DCS shot. after watching how he operates the controls, i woulda neva eva thought to be so nosy in the canopy and to be in the "Weight Room" so much. @ Max Afterburner, ty for sharing just a lil bit : )
hats off to you, sir. mad respect. It's one of my dreams to go up in a fighter jet and feel some G's.
A while ago, Growling Sidewinder had a French Airforce Pilot called "ATE"??? on his channel, would love to see you DCS dogfight with GS and Ate.
5:14 Idea. Toggle-able DRM option for increased/decreased G tolerance, verified by the devs seeing proof from the player of how much they can lift IRL.
Awesome content man, love seeing stuff like this.
I immediately subbed when you prepared for the G's by instinct. Hopefully, you'll do more DCS content. Cheers!!!
I appreciate DCS and their integration of g-loc. It's far too easy, from my perspective, to continue high g maneuvering for extended periods. Perhaps, there is a way to make it more progressive as the pilot continues high g flight? That would help boost realism.
Opposite.
F16 blacks out far too easily in DCS at the moment.
I am just starting on DCS, and get annoyed when the P-51 yells over-g! Come on, that is goofy.
G-loc has been in most sims since the mid-90’s.
@@gtdcoder yes. what are you adding here?
@@rmack9226He’s adding the same thing you are. That’s your answer
i love how he automatically does this special breathe technique to fight against the g-forces :D
Man this was so effing entertaining to watch with you are the controls!!!! Thanks!!!!!
i love when you do these video, i always learn something, today was the way you turn to save energy, i was doing it wrong...for some years now
I love when real fighter pilots do things like this. Peels back the onion a little bit. I have to admit while watching this I had a little spatial disorientation a few times.
For the head tracker, you could also look into setting it up to use eye tracker instead so you are not tilting you head
I think it has more to do with muscle memory and real G's just pulling your head back. I could be wrong tho :)
@@DIoXyDzno, you are wrong. Trackir requires you to move your head
That wouldn’t really be helpful at all. Sometimes you want to look around your screen without moving your head
How would that work if you want to look directly above you? You’d have to look at your ceiling you wouldn’t even see the screen.
@@urockalex1614 you can literally see him doing it in the video. You look up with your head and look at your screen with your eyes
As an F-16 avionics technician...this is awesome to see!!
its incredible to think that there are real people doing this and training to be ready for the shit storm i salute every one of you in service and really appreciate it.
I haven't seen a flight sim be this cool since ever, and it is definitely owed to the pilot.
Glad you enjoyed it! More on the way, once is releasing tomorrow morning at 10 am MT! Glad you are here!
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@@highestpeeqs9532 Can Jesus fly an F-16?
would be interested in seeing you play with Growling Sidewinder. Would be cool.
I live on the Suffolk/Norfolk boarder in the UK and we regularly get F35's above our heads playing cat and mouse. Training I guess. And the noise! Great stuff.
So cool to watch and see how you think in a dog fight. Subscribed!
Being a PC game I'm surprised you can't change the G limit with a mod or a tweak. Awesome video!
Much respect , slear sky!
You should really do a DCS dogfight , fox2 or guns only with Growling Sidewinder!
That would be sick
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR I can bet already bet who's gonna take more rounds heheheee
@24jazza I think we are on the same page, but I guess it would depend on the aircraft choices, but it would be awesome
@@SAMMIEJONESJUNIOR comes down to pilot skill, so same aircraft, same load
@24jazza if we go that route, then it is definitely going to be one-sided
So interesting to watch. Thank you for your service
I like how the head movement is so reflexive he can't help but do it. Dude was the real deal for sure.
I'd love to see you try this in VR if possible!!
You bet! Will do within the next few months thanks 👍👍
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Dude this is fking awesome! Your fighting these other players with military grade jets.
Can’t wait to see more fights.
That's an awesome setup you got there. Great video too.
I can’t even imagine how strong one’s neck would have to be to withstand that amount of G Forces. Super cool video. I don’t know anything about fighter pilots. But at certain points you’d move your head in a way I’ve never seen, but it was fluid. I can only deduce it’s because of your training and you’ve done it so many times over a long period of time. It’s instinct regardless of real life or a simulation.
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@@highestpeeqs9532You meant Allah?
@@highestpeeqs9532 Buddha. Get it right.
Real question: if youre at supersonic speeds in a jet, what does it actually sound like in the cockpit to fire the jet's weaponry? Do you hear it at all over the engines, and if so, does it kind of sound weird? Like, is there a doppler effect to it or something, or does it just sound normal in the cockpit, etc?
The fact an actual pilot spends time on this is a credit to the simulation. Great stuff if we can experience 10% of what these guys did for real it’s a win. I took a real flight at the controls never done before and the instructor said “Wow you under the basics so well, your positioning where you should be looking” all I could think of was I played a lot of old school flight sims in the 90s and Elite in the 80s 😂 he was happy for me to fly most of the 45 minutes along the coast and back before taking back control to land. Brilliant experience from a good few years back. Went in my first Helicopter last year ridding shotgun over my city and up a Loch for about an hour and it was breathtaking. Would love to do a gyrocopter or maybe a glider.
Definitely credit to DCS, the game is very well done 👍
Yh I been lookin for you these are the content makers I want haha Great flying
Not only is this video very entertaining its also a great insight into the movements of a real pilot vs a pc gamer pilot like myself, its very interesting. Also shows how great dcs AI is.
More content like this please!
horrible amateur DCS pilot dogfighting AI?
@@rmack9226wut
That HUD on 16 is very nice! Big fan.
I wanted to be a fighter pilot for the first half of my life, so this was like a "what if" for me. I develop games now, but I love aviation games. It would also be cool to see you play more arcade-like games, like Ace Combat. Loved this vid!
I would love to see a round robin competition, tournament with you, Mover, and other former military pilots as well as some in the DCS community that seemingly are in the top tier or high proficiency in DCS such as Growling Sidewinder, and a few more....Would love to see that...
WAIT A MINUTE....MAX...WHERE DID THE AWESOME MUSTACHE ABORT TO??? I guess down the drain...Damn, was really hoping to see the handlebar or the Robin Olds Stache....I must say, you appear 20 years younger...Well, at least you don't wear bell bottoms!!!
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I love the back head movement, I'm assuming that's the manuever he's trained into his body flying the F-16 with the reclined seat.
His Pc tracks his head to move the in game pilot's sight
You know my favourite thing about this Is when you pull up at the start, your moving your head up as you would do normally. It makes me feel so much better when I'm sim racing and leaning and bracing for the breaking in my seat lmao
3:07 I was stunned that you got him at that angle. I have to practice a lot more with the Viper, but I do like the gun on it.
The way his head moves to accomodate for looking straight up/ backwards even tho it doesn’t need to is really cool.
No reason to override good habits
I wish ED would incorporate a pilot builder of sorts so that you could better resist G effects with flight hours and experience.
ED?
@@xhappybunnyx erectile dysfunction, common after age 50 in a lot men, even pilots.
@@xhappybunnyx Eagle Dynamics is the company behind DCS.
I was talking about Eagle Dynamics...
The jet seems SO MUCH more responsive for you than it is for me...I really gotta see what's up with my stick rates. Something seems outta whack for me. Would love to see your axis tunes!!
Or maybe the difference is he's an actual fighter pilot, eh..?
maybe you just too fast...
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 Even when his speed was well over 500kts, the plane seemed MUCH more responsive. Dunno...would love to see his axis settings and curves and all that.
This@@davewalkden7248
I love watching someone so skilled at what they do
Randomly recommended this video and I'm glad I clicked, this is super cool!
Fly with Growling Sidewinder!
I'd love to hear what you have to say about his flying and what you might be able to teach him.
Growling Sidewinder will destroy this dude. And not because he is better at BFM, than this dude. Because it's a game. There is nothing he will be able to teach him, it's actually the opposite. Although, I don't think you should learn from GS too
Or what GS can teach Neo
GS flew against a Rafale pilot before and he splashed that guy twice, maybe more. He stayed humble and assured us all that this would never happen in real life, but in DCS, he knows what he's doing.
@@quasimondo1933 I know about that. It's just there are alot of much better pilots and entire dedicated to BFM community, where there is no "F-16 is the best dogfighter ever" and "just take it to the deck" bs. If he would show up to a dogfighting server he would be destroyed. Not by all, of course.
@@quasimondo1933 i've seen that.
I did a flight simulator that you had to get inside a motion capsule where the controls & screens show the displays👍 I could take off & land on the ground but couldnt land on a aircraft carrier Flight Deck😂 The instructor said I did better then alot of actual pilots. Dogfighting was a blast👍
Where at? Would love to try
@@bunnypeople it was at the MALL OF AMERICA but this was 30 yrs ago. It cost $20 for a 15 minute simulation. They changed it after 9/11 because they found terrorists just wanting to learn how to take off. They were the same simulators real pilots used to train with
This is genuinely crazy! 2 mins into the video and I couldn't even tell which way was up 🤣
Bro had me glued to the screen. Honestly way more interesting than top gun
2:00 "He's a little rangey for a gunshot". Question here; in a real combat scenario, would you have to be concerned with where the missed rounds would go if you were to fire. What I mean is, if you were in a position to fire the gun, but perhaps you expected only 60% of all rounds fired to hit the target, would you have to consider where those 40% of fired rounds went (and therefore landed)? I suppose in a life or death encounter with the enemy, that might not be a concern, but it still interests me. Just imagining some woman in the next country over taking her dog for a walk and suddenly the ground around her gets peppered with stray rounds.
The gun on the F-16 has an effective range of ~10,000 ft. so outside of that the rounds would slow down and drop.
If you hadn't been running out of fuel you might have gotten a 3rd kill. It's hard to fight multiple enemies. Well done.
"Didn't see a chute on that one. Brutal." LOL that was awesome!!
Its cool to see the muscle memory of him lifting his head to keep his eye on the target like he's in a real jet lol
Are there usually server or weapon restrictions to make these dogfights happen? Most DCS matchups i see theyll start with a flyby or in the turn already, is this bc BVR combat wouldnt be as fun or balanced? Or is this how things actually go if you dont have a dedicated long range aircraft/setup?
Mobetta's just dogfights server starts you at a 10 mile merge.
Different slots for guns, or heaters, or bvr
@@rmack9226 Gotcha, thanks.
The reason for an initial merge in 1v1 BFM is just to have a neutral start in a guns only or short range missile fight. IRL, you would go from long range missiles to medium/short range then to guns and it’s by any means necessary.
As interesting and impressive as this is it scares me that there's kids out there who could do this better on a dance mat. 😂
I'm glad you're craining your neck playing these games as well. My brother used to tease me about that when i'd do that.
I love how you tilt your head haha!
I ejected in the merge last week. I found out that DCS changed my control bindings and mapped EJECT to my radar-on switch for some reason.
I didn't have time to figure out what the name of that key binding was, so I just bound my radar switch to the ejection handle.
I need time away from work to figure out the name of the radar binding in that 200 mile long list of binds. Until then, I just pull the ejection handle to toggle radar on and off. If I need to eject I just flip the radar switch.
Hahahaha thank you for this
@@reboundrides8132 I'm used to this kind of thing. My very first car out of high school had electrical problems. I had to hit the sunroof button to get the left turn signal on. I just had to hope that I never had to turn left on a rainy day.
In a way this Viper is an upgrade. If I had to start an aircraft manufacturing company to rival Boeing or Lockheed, I'll name it Jankey-Dynamics.
Go into the adjust flight controls for the aircraft you are flying, click on the column for the stick or throttle (which ever has the mapped button) and push the button or switch that is ejecting you and it will take you right to the mapping. Right click and clear combo. Then bind it to the command you want.
O...M... G... I never knew about this!!! You're a GOD, Freediver! Thank you! @@Freediver_72
Love your content and your real world perspective on the sim.
I love people in the comments talking to you like you weren't a real fighter pilot with actual experience. Sounds like a bunch of "dorks" critiquing you. Get in the weight room nerds.
Thank you for your service man!
Ha thanks man, appreciate that. in all fairness I am a nerd too who happened to get in the weight room as well LOL
I don’t even know how this ended on my feed, but I subscribed. 😂
That was AWESOME to watch. F16 has always been my fave. Subbing!
Out of interest, have you ever played any of the sims from the 80s/90s? I use to be big time into them on the Commodore Amiga.
I put a lot of time into Falcon 3.0 back in the day, great game
This was fascinating to watch, to the point that I'm concerned if this epic pilot revealed too much of his combat logic...
I guess dogfighting is an international language, and all combat pilots learn the same formulas and they focus on perfecting timings on manoeuvres and decision making?
Great to see nonetheless, I learned a lot. Thanks!
BFM/dogfighting is relatively well known by now. Now, BVR techniques and missiles, that is super super secret. Think former pilots are explicitly forbidden from playing games like this and doing BVR tactics due to OPSEC risks. Not like DCS is remotely accurate in BVR anyways though, or so I've heard from pilots.