Why The Espada VS Warlords Isn’t Close ft.

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  • @bobby31723
    @bobby31723 4 місяці тому +82

    Even with equal stats, the espada clears.
    Nearly none of the warlords can fly or have insane movement abilities they can spam, unlike every single espada. HUGE mobility advantage. On top of a lot of the warlords not having a lot of spammable and effective ranged attacks as well, while every espada at the very least have balas and multiples cero variants with massive aoe.
    The espada are also not chumps when it come to hax. All hollows reiatsu is poisonous and need specific antibodies to prevent the soul of those damaged to erode, crumble and then dissapear. Quincies do not have those anti bodies in Bleach and Hollows are extremely dangerous to them. The characthers in OP would be very succeptible to that poison.
    Same with the espada every attacks damaging the very soul ,bypassing a lot of regens and durability and being able to damage Logias. And soul crush having the same effects as conqueror haki but with even more effect on the soul.
    As for specific hax not share by every espada:
    -Aaronierro isn't that much, but he could eat any espada that dies and gain their strengh ,abilities and memories , effectivelly making any other espada dying before him be quite meaningless.
    -Szayel creating dozens of clones of any characther that is touched by his black liquid , allies or ennemies. He could make a small army of other espada or warlord it land on. And those clones have the exact same stats and power as the original so him alone could win the battle for the espada. And he have his voodoo dolls as mentionned in the video but not nearly as impactfull.
    -Zommari 's amor could also be quite problematic , severely crippling or even taking out a target instantly depending where it land.
    -Harribel ability to create and manipulate water to an insane degree , and given how many devil fruit user there is among the warlords on top of countering Jinbei and Crocodile, she is a incredible asset.
    -Barragan 's power of time will also be game changing. Nothing can touch him and anyone touched by his attacks mean certain death or servere crippling for the characther.
    -Not really a hax , but i do need to mention Starrk's absolute spamming of thousands and thousands of cero that he can maintain for at least weeks on end. While flying above the warlords out of harms way. Along Ulquiorra absolutely giga nuking the battlefiled with multiple lanzas.

  • @ThePandaOfYourMind
    @ThePandaOfYourMind 4 місяці тому +58

    In all fairness, even with equal stats, no warlord has anything to stop Barragan, since he can age even energy

  • @ianrowen8560
    @ianrowen8560 9 місяців тому +100

    I think this should be common knowledge bro. The bleach verse scales massively above the one piece verse. Highest bleach characters are like solar system to universal. The highest one piece characters be like multi continental.
    Tldr: Espada slams

    • @gabesisneros136
      @gabesisneros136 3 місяці тому +3

      Often higher scaling later in the show being the final arc and in the manga / apparently sorta canon hell verse movie

    • @savaory4217
      @savaory4217 3 місяці тому +6

      Bleach scaling is even higher than that u can characters like uryu ywach aizen and ichigo to low complex multi

    • @Marko964
      @Marko964 2 місяці тому +3

      This one guy wrote low complex multi which i do not agree with (maybe after the hell arc which is not finished yet). The strongest cap at high multiversal. Most characters scale around planet - high multiversal. Ofc you could rly highball some characters to ridicule numbers but it wouldn’t make sense.

    • @luizotavio44
      @luizotavio44 2 місяці тому +3

      tbh one piece scaling is honestly kinda low in general for these popular shonen only higher than series like demon slayer which is almost mundane in scaling

    • @savaory4217
      @savaory4217 2 місяці тому

      @@luizotavio44 Ik the highest u can get one piece is to star lvl off of a statement and highballing the verses size

  • @ginnungagapabyss5639
    @ginnungagapabyss5639 9 місяців тому +77

    Imagine if the 7 warlords ended up reincarnating into hollows after this fight. Reborn with superior powers and abilities based on their souls, with their haki also evolving.

    • @revenantronin8377
      @revenantronin8377 6 місяців тому +20

      they would be low level hollows, that's not how souls work in Bleach.
      No human soul automatically evolves, they need to absorb at least 100,000 souls just to reach arrancar status. That's assuming they are the dominant ego that controls the other 99,999 souls.

    • @ginnungagapabyss5639
      @ginnungagapabyss5639 6 місяців тому +9

      @@revenantronin8377 I know, and since Haki is literally willpower their souls would be dominant. I did not say anything about them instantly reaching the top, they would have a massive head start with their power.

    • @ryandelmundo4965
      @ryandelmundo4965 5 місяців тому +2

      I think they can be born as a vasto lorde

    • @ginnungagapabyss5639
      @ginnungagapabyss5639 5 місяців тому +1

      @@ryandelmundo4965 right

    • @redxzs0
      @redxzs0 5 місяців тому +9

      @@ginnungagapabyss5639 nah a stray gillian or adjucha might squad wipe before they get the chance to evolve

  • @Hamzethegoat
    @Hamzethegoat 4 місяці тому +27

    People don’t understand how broken Bleach verse is these are not pirates and ninjas they are Shinigami spiritual beings with each move attack the soul including zanpakto

  • @Nube_Negrah
    @Nube_Negrah 9 місяців тому +42

    As a Bleach fan, I don't know if I by you saying the Espada would lose with equal stats. You can directly compare Haki and Reiatsu because they are both forms of inner will and spiritual energy. Even with equal stats, every Espada member would have a way to Tag characters like crocodile and moira but also resist hax like Boa Hancocks

    • @vsoist
      @vsoist 9 місяців тому +3

      Hmm haki and reiatsu is completely different , as bleach as my 3rd favourite I say your incorrect

    • @Nube_Negrah
      @Nube_Negrah 9 місяців тому +13

      @@vsoist bleach being a favorite of yours doesn't change the fact that you are wrong. Haki is verbatim said to be a "mysterious power that allows the user to utilize their own spiritual energy for various purposes". Reiatsu/Reiryoku is spiritual energy in Bleach. There's a direct comparison right there

    • @pantsuuchan1169
      @pantsuuchan1169 5 місяців тому +2

      @@Nube_Negrahthats like saying ki and chakra are the same

    • @Nube_Negrah
      @Nube_Negrah 5 місяців тому

      @@pantsuuchan1169 they're similar except in Naruto chakra comes from outside the planet unlike nature energy

    • @pantsuuchan1169
      @pantsuuchan1169 5 місяців тому +1

      @@Nube_Negrah but there not at all there from 2 entirely different series and at that point if you wanna go that far, they cant even see or touch the espeda their ghosts

  • @archflamingo9156
    @archflamingo9156 9 місяців тому +57

    bro the fact that early mid bleach is already planetary to star is insane only the yonkos admirals and legends from op stand a chance

    • @alf0.323
      @alf0.323 9 місяців тому +7

      💀💀💀 Planet-Star at early Bleach?!?! Absolutely 🧠 ☠️

    • @Xerbat.
      @Xerbat. 9 місяців тому

      ur so stupid bro

    • @weskintime4177
      @weskintime4177 8 місяців тому +7

      @@alf0.323Kido Canon in the one canon movie that was powered by some fodder Soul Reapers could destroy a planet and that was PRE-ARRANCAR ARC. Memories of Nobody IS canon.

    • @mufeezsyed2664
      @mufeezsyed2664 8 місяців тому +18

      ​@@weskintime4177why do people always forget that the captain class soul reapers need to control their power otherwise it's threat to the world itself😂. And some of the captain's were getting overpowered by arrancars.

    • @alexclarke-wz9nw
      @alexclarke-wz9nw 5 місяців тому +8

      ​@@alf0.323yama without popping bankia could destroy the whole seireitei early bleach btw

  • @prynce.
    @prynce. 9 місяців тому +52

    Baraggan by himself solos, u cant tell me otherwise simply cuz there is nothing that the Warlords are doing to bypass his Respira, and adding the other 9, it is overkill

    • @coo_coo_
      @coo_coo_ 4 місяці тому +13

      even equal stats there’s no way they have around it.

    • @kataelthedemon8909
      @kataelthedemon8909 Місяць тому +3

      Grimmjow is pretty enough to destroy every warlord

    • @trafalgardlawyer6128
      @trafalgardlawyer6128 9 днів тому

      Blackbeard with blackvortex can absorb baragan
      Moria will take any of the espada's shadow to fight form him

    • @kataelthedemon8909
      @kataelthedemon8909 9 днів тому

      @@trafalgardlawyer6128 they are too slow to participate against Espada. Also they can die cause of Reatsu Pressure

    • @trafalgardlawyer6128
      @trafalgardlawyer6128 4 дні тому

      @@kataelthedemon8909 you really think they are normal humans,op characters have great reaction speed they can dodge lightspeed and beyond attacks with observation haki

  • @Strudydemon
    @Strudydemon 5 місяців тому +39

    aizen literally neg shanks buggy luffy and black beard in tybw

    • @LunarcXD
      @LunarcXD 4 місяці тому +8

      newborn aizen negs ngl.

    • @Reaper_765
      @Reaper_765 3 місяці тому +1

      @@LunarcXDkid version is enough

    • @danamakanyan
      @danamakanyan 15 днів тому +1

      in fake karakura town arc bruh, even before he fused with the hogyoku, aizen dogwalks the entire op verse

  • @water9653
    @water9653 4 місяці тому +11

    The espada win with or without equal stats.
    You're forgetting the warlords have literally 0 counter to Barragan.

  • @gamerhive0
    @gamerhive0 Місяць тому +4

    Boa : MERO MER-
    *ulquiora proceeds to hit her with a f***** *planet beam*

  • @PlayerFoe701
    @PlayerFoe701 9 місяців тому +7

    I love these types of thumbnails man and w vid keep up the great work

  • @WesleyZ3
    @WesleyZ3 5 місяців тому +7

    Fun video idea but this type of fight can only work with equal stats b/c the weakest Espada can solo most of One Piece

  • @snoozerrr_
    @snoozerrr_ 4 місяці тому +4

    the espada slam even w/o resurrection

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming 3 місяці тому +3

    There's 10 primary Espada, and then some others, but all you really need is to pick any of them and they solo the warlords neg diff by scaling above Memories of Nobody Ichigo who destroyed a hyperspace.

  • @clinged2711
    @clinged2711 9 місяців тому +9

    10 commandments from sds vs espada, do it now or i riot

  • @nk_worldz6667
    @nk_worldz6667 28 днів тому

    The thumbnail goes hard asf

  • @theoktonos
    @theoktonos 4 місяці тому +4

    equal stats the espada still stomp, i dont know how you came into that conclusion, and specifically why you left it out the video without any explanation, harribel just uses cascada and no diffs lol

  • @PoH27
    @PoH27 9 місяців тому +17

    mihawk is deadass carrying😂

    • @ClaytonOHara
      @ClaytonOHara 8 місяців тому +1

      Crocoboy and Doffy aren’t pushovers, bruh

    • @crisis514
      @crisis514 8 місяців тому

      @@ClaytonOHaralet them spout there nonsense

    • @pantsuuchan1169
      @pantsuuchan1169 5 місяців тому

      @@ClaytonOHarain the eyes of the espada they afe

    • @alphaomega1210
      @alphaomega1210 4 місяці тому

      @@pantsuuchan1169 He completely skipped over doffy and gear 4 multipliers that range from 3 to 4 times on top of gear 2.

    • @pantsuuchan1169
      @pantsuuchan1169 4 місяці тому

      @@alphaomega1210 they are fodder compared to ulqiorra grimjow any of the espeda starrk prolly wven nnoitra

  • @st.michaeluche688
    @st.michaeluche688 4 місяці тому +5

    Espada clears negative difficulty

  • @Frstypwngaming
    @Frstypwngaming 3 місяці тому +2

    At equal stats Barragan still solos. They have no way to attack him as everything they do ages to nothing and they have no way to reverse it onto him like what happened during the FKT arc; Starkk also solos by being able to fire literally a literal infinite amount of attacks from range (Thousands per second and being made of light), Any resurrecion 10x amp from their equalized stats (None of the warlords have anything similar) with Ulquiorra having a 100x amp from their equalized stats as well; Szayelaporro can just reverse their damage and make puppets out of them and destroy all of their organs without them having a way to deal with it, Zommari Rureaux just makes them all kill each other, Tier Harribel negates Jimbe's ability to manipulate water in a 1v1 (They're also souls, and souls aren't made of water like humans & other animals)

  • @gabesisneros136
    @gabesisneros136 3 місяці тому +2

    Espada have some broken powers too, so idk how espada lose with equalizer, which honestly wouldn't make sense to do such a thing.

  • @thegreaterconsciousness5997
    @thegreaterconsciousness5997 9 місяців тому +3

    Dude you should’ve included Law and Blackbeard not saying anything changes but I know for a fact they scale higher as warlords than city level crocodile and Moria

  • @Exro.
    @Exro. 9 місяців тому +6

    Do Sternritters vs Naruto and One Piece

  • @Deim0
    @Deim0 3 місяці тому +2

    id argue even with equal stats the espada would win, imagine if all of them just went ressureccion and used gran rey cero on them (if it was a battle royale) what would they do? the attack is strong enough to kill them and it would likewise vaporize them, meaning a logia wouldnt really do anything

  • @gman8477
    @gman8477 9 місяців тому +1

    Nice video as always 🎉

  • @sbthesage2100
    @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +3

    youtube.com/@TheRogueGuy?si=cIzkeW3EjwAgGaUP go sub to Rogue !

  • @theprimegamer7086
    @theprimegamer7086 Місяць тому

    still an entertaining video, this is mainly about powerscaling as a whole
    part of me enjoys the whole "who would win" stuff, cuz i am curious how a fight would go between characters i like
    what i dont like is all of the powerscaler terms, they *sound* like theyre supposed to be an easy way to give an idea as to how strong a character is (ie: island level, star level) but its mind boggling to think that "continent level" and "star level" are similar
    like one is a portion of the surface of a planet and another is a massive ball of fire with the mass of hundreds of that same planet that continent is on so either i have to find what all of this is supposed to mean on some wiki that not everyone agrees is correct or i should question how helpful this assesment is to any argument unless the other person is definitely above the highest possible scale or below the lowest possible scale like
    "okay this character's max strength is either enough to punch a hole in drywall or completely level a mountain"
    it all feels like people are just throwing out vague guesses when they use those terms too, like yeah everyone says they calculated it to be whatever level but tbh id at least like to see the numbers alongside the terms and most videos dont do that, yeah something like 200 tons of tnt or 28,000 miles per hour doesnt mean a whole lot to me but id at least be able to see "okay this characters number is higher than this other character's number so this is clearly better" plus it shows if theyre significantly faster or stronger or more durable like multiple times higher or if its just by the tiniest bit
    i do agree with the outcome of the video though, even if i dont agree with all of the reasonings.

  • @YamaTempest
    @YamaTempest 2 місяці тому

    im always curious about espadas/soul reapers battles and scaling/haxs though. From what i know arent they all spiritual (if this is even the right word) beings? like soul reapers arent physical but maybe meta physical. if this is true wouldnt that mean that anybody that cannot portray the meta physical/soul kind of things cant attack, much less sense or fight them? and from what i know none of the one piece people have any soul hax so they couldnt do anything to them, let alone defend themselves from their soul-like attacks.
    Overall, im probably wrong about everything ive said but i just want someone to educate me on this kind of thing since i never really understood it and would like to know more about it so please if you have any knowledge about anything i said please educate me thanks.

  • @Big_Cain
    @Big_Cain 9 місяців тому +6

    Espada: Skill, Experience, IQ, Range, AP, DC, Hax, Abilities, Power, Speed, & Durability.
    7 Warlords: Skill, Experience, BIQ, & Abilities.

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +3

      Other than speed you got it right

    • @Big_Cain
      @Big_Cain 9 місяців тому

      @@sbthesage2100I knew I made a mistake somewhere. Thank you so much I love your videos.❤️

    • @foreverx243
      @foreverx243 9 місяців тому +1

      @@cjcj4861 the warlords get shit on by espada its not even close

    • @MoloBolo-nl6kx
      @MoloBolo-nl6kx 8 місяців тому +4

      How do Warlords have more experiences 😭 the Espadas where all once Hollows who lived in Mundo for at least a over hundred Years even rukia is like 151 well currently I think she's 170 years old or close to that either way Espadas takes experience, Skills they take pretty much everything

  • @yaboiplank6764
    @yaboiplank6764 8 місяців тому +1

    Didint croc intercept Mihawk and Akainu at Marineford?

  • @mrabadon3657
    @mrabadon3657 2 місяці тому +1

    This is an easy answer. Bleach is a stronger world than One Piece. Therefore Espada is stronger than warlords. I would give them a mid - hight diff. Because of the problem in communication between Espada

  • @RHYS-c6b
    @RHYS-c6b Місяць тому

    Was this a debate

  • @darkmenma305
    @darkmenma305 9 місяців тому +2

    First and w vid bro

  • @Makoto-khan
    @Makoto-khan 2 місяці тому

    Even in equal stats how can the warlords deal with Barragan?

  • @ydpark8383
    @ydpark8383 3 місяці тому

    with eqaul stats mihawk becomes one of the weakest, and no one is killing Barragan.
    Also equal stats should never extend to the power of ability's ap. The speed of ability is fine, but if a character(A) without equal stats who is stronger than another character(B), but gets blitzed by an ability that ability should blitz character(B)

  • @TaylorZahnd
    @TaylorZahnd 20 днів тому

    You do realize that there are ten espada right. Not to mention the four primal ones.

  • @normanderi
    @normanderi 3 місяці тому

    Even on equal stats espada win anyway, abilities arent changed so even if barragan cant produce infinite respira(which is a bigger nerf than only stats), if he uses it only in the important moments he is unbeatable, stark's cero might not oneshot in equal stats, stop a barrage of them while he is flying, harribel could drown most of them easily, ulquiorra regen can literally outlast everyone, noitra is basically immune if you arent stronger than him(technically applicable to every bleach character, but hierro works pretty much as armament haki, in addition to the normal reiatsu "armor" as kempachi shows, meaning the scene about attacks arent sharp/powerful enough they wont deal damage if the other is stronger by default), zomari can control someone or at leadt incapacitate, grimjaw as much as i like him he is kinda fodder, aporro is just hax incarnate but fodder at the end of the day, yami is just fodder in equal stats ngl and aaroniero is also fodder but can eat other to become the strongest.
    Problem, besides only by taking top5 espada win against all warlords in even stats, in even stats numbers are of great importance, and espada are 10 vs 7 warlords, there is no way warlords wins.

  • @lolskigames3818
    @lolskigames3818 Місяць тому

    The equal stats just feels like its there to appease the OP fans kinda mainly bs

  • @God_Koku
    @God_Koku 8 місяців тому +2

    The sokyoku is stated to be able to destroy the ss which we know have celestial bodies like stars in chapter 148 easily putting this solar+ and yet base shikai ichigo in the ss casually no diffed the sokyoku and we all know any espada at that time would no diff ichigo (he literally lost to base Grimmjow after 💀) so I don't see how this is even a fight for the warlords are getting slaughtered

    • @kidgoku3763
      @kidgoku3763 4 місяці тому

      Keep cooking but there are ways to get the ss to universal in size

    • @God_Koku
      @God_Koku 4 місяці тому

      @@kidgoku3763 Yeah I just realize ep 214 of Bleach shows galaxies in the human world meaning the human world is a standard universe and since the ss was stated to be similar in size to the human world it makes it uni in size too therefore being 2 universes in bleach

    • @kidgoku3763
      @kidgoku3763 4 місяці тому +1

      @@God_Koku finally someone who knows what there talking about I’ve met people who believe the soul society is only as big as katakura town

    • @God_Koku
      @God_Koku 4 місяці тому

      @@kidgoku3763 Bruh lmao well at least its not as bad as people scaling Ichigoat and Aizen to mountain level 💀💀

    • @kidgoku3763
      @kidgoku3763 4 місяці тому

      @@God_Koku I hate When people say that they don’t get that ichigo and aizen scale way above

  • @edouard9867
    @edouard9867 4 години тому

    You are the man that said "Minato kcm and Hashirama are 700x faster than light due to various multipliers" but in this video you say that One piece calc scaling aren't relevant or weird...

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  4 години тому

      @@edouard9867 you do realize people can change opinions right ? I don’t even rep that take anymore

    • @edouard9867
      @edouard9867 3 години тому

      @@sbthesage2100 Then my apologies. I just watched two of your videos straight, so the contrast was bad (from my point of view).

  • @ChocolateYOOHOO
    @ChocolateYOOHOO 2 місяці тому +1

    Espada solo. It's not even close

  • @zachariaravenheart
    @zachariaravenheart 4 місяці тому

    One Piece being MFTL is actually very consistent. Best example is when Zorro dodged Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit attacks which are stated to be light speed by Kuma himself. Then with the time skip, the Straw Hats (Luffy, Zorro and Sanji specifically) show to be so much faster than the Kuma bots that they no diffed them in base. Then they have all gotten stronger and faster since then.
    Great video, by the way. Despite the disagreement on speed, I still enjoyed this one. These are some of my favorite topics in vs battles!

    • @AtomiccKaiju
      @AtomiccKaiju 2 місяці тому

      Kuma's Paw Paw Fruit could be hyperbole from himself.

  • @beakystar2873
    @beakystar2873 7 днів тому

    Bro went over sm details w the warlords but just said some sentences about the Espada 😞

  • @Knull575
    @Knull575 9 місяців тому +2

    Wow the warlord downplay is crazy

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +8

      Debate me and we’ll see if it’s downplay or not

  • @yaboiplank6764
    @yaboiplank6764 8 місяців тому

    Holy Quintet (Madoka Magica) v Z Fighters?

    • @yeikelamores6085
      @yeikelamores6085 7 місяців тому

      What era Z warriors? since they go from large and superior planet at the beginning of Z to current minimum High multiversal complex+

  • @masonmcfadden4886
    @masonmcfadden4886 9 місяців тому +3

    You kinda downplaying the warlords ap and speed badly 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      Debate me on it

    • @masonmcfadden4886
      @masonmcfadden4886 9 місяців тому

      @@sbthesage2100 Doflamigo is definitely like lightspeed because he's relative to a fluffy that dodge light beams

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      @@masonmcfadden4886 dodging light doesn’t make your combat speed light speed Buddy

    • @masonmcfadden4886
      @masonmcfadden4886 9 місяців тому

      @@sbthesage2100 That definitely ain't massively hypersonic that's rel+ to light speed

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      @@masonmcfadden4886 dodging something doesn’t mean anything for your combat speed can you not read ?

  • @ViolenceReality
    @ViolenceReality 9 місяців тому +15

    Star Level Espada? Which means Ichigo and the gang are ALL relative to Star Level skipping planetary by a Wide margin with No feats to back it up🤦‍♂️

    • @saiyanofmemes1082
      @saiyanofmemes1082 9 місяців тому +14

      I never seen so many fallacies in one sentence before
      *Edit:* Well yes I have, this is a YT comment section for a powerscaling video. People attempt to be smart here all the time unfortunately

    • @matinsadeghi4406
      @matinsadeghi4406 9 місяців тому +2

      A base cero of espada is able to destroy a star stated by grimmjow in cyfow novel

    • @ViolenceReality
      @ViolenceReality 9 місяців тому +5

      @@saiyanofmemes1082are “Fallacies” something you say when you don’t have an argument? Wanna try one before calling anybody stupid?

    • @ViolenceReality
      @ViolenceReality 9 місяців тому

      Talk about “Calc Stacking” amirite

    • @marcoslightspeed5517
      @marcoslightspeed5517 9 місяців тому

      ​@@matinsadeghi4406it was clearly a hyperbolic statement. Cero are country level at max with statements .

  • @throwawayaccount4009
    @throwawayaccount4009 5 місяців тому +3

    “well if a toddler was the same size as their dad then they could win the fight”
    well no crap 🤦🏻‍♂️ these “Espada VS Folks Who Can’t Blow Up Australia” videos are a joke.
    What’s next? The Espada VS Paw Patrol? Wonder who’s gonna win?

  • @thehdtv7552
    @thehdtv7552 9 місяців тому

    Fax as always

  • @coo_coo_
    @coo_coo_ 4 місяці тому

    any espada 6 or higher solos

  • @jarofross1326
    @jarofross1326 4 місяці тому

    Can't find a way to make the warlords win so you have to pull equal stats bs

  • @mattmcwhirt4146
    @mattmcwhirt4146 9 місяців тому

    Ap wise one piece has no chance
    Speed wise is better but still gets poopoo on.

  • @danielchester1109
    @danielchester1109 9 місяців тому

    Do kisame vs jinbe

  • @StunningSummarysTop10s
    @StunningSummarysTop10s 9 місяців тому +1

    Espada solo

  • @Daemoz
    @Daemoz 9 місяців тому +2

    You guys Calc-Stacked the Espada, we have proof the Espada were weaker than Butterfly Aizen who wasn’t by any stretch of the imagination Planet Level let alone Star level the “Evidence” for Star Level Espada is Fan Calc-Stacking and forced multipliers.

    • @Nube_Negrah
      @Nube_Negrah 9 місяців тому +1

      Aizen was fighting an Ichigo who slapped away a black hole. He scales far beyond planet and star level

    • @Daemoz
      @Daemoz 9 місяців тому

      @@Nube_Negrah there were no genuine black holes “Distorted Space” can mean anything. Basic Captains tanked it, they Black hole level?

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      I think that you can’t hear bc he said that is an interpretation and debated on not that he agrees one way or the other also none of that AP scaling is based of calc stacking goon

    • @manlight5035
      @manlight5035 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Nube_NegrahAnd we saw how Ichigo got burnt by city block explosion so city block explosion>>>>so called "black hole"

    • @Nube_Negrah
      @Nube_Negrah 9 місяців тому +1

      @@manlight5035 you're clueless if you think a hole that deep is city block level

  • @ClaytonOHara
    @ClaytonOHara 8 місяців тому

    bro, you didn’t mention Crocoboy’s feats during the war. just Alabasta

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  8 місяців тому +1

      His feats in the war are unquantifiable he dosent have any real fights just clashes that don’t really mean anything for him scaling wise

  • @AnimeDivanı
    @AnimeDivanı 9 місяців тому +2

    Base Yami>One Piece

    • @Knull575
      @Knull575 9 місяців тому

      Not even close... Doflamingo solos

    • @crisis514
      @crisis514 8 місяців тому

      Solos what ? Yamai negs lmao

    • @Knull575
      @Knull575 8 місяців тому

      @@crisis514 you don't even know how strong Yami is lol
      Just because he's a bleach character you think he negs 🤦‍♂️

    • @crisis514
      @crisis514 8 місяців тому

      @@Knull575 yea just stop talking any bleach characters negs doffy its not a debate go cry in a corner somewhere

    • @AtomiccKaiju
      @AtomiccKaiju 2 місяці тому

      @@crisis514 Even kon wins?

  • @logandelaharpe6362
    @logandelaharpe6362 17 днів тому

    States equalized changes nothing barragan solos either way

  • @cosmos6006
    @cosmos6006 8 місяців тому

    I didn’t want to post a long response to this just so you don’t read it but in short your wrong about the one piece scaling most of it is wrong from the speed feats to the ap to the total disregard of the one piece world being much bigger then are world and I will go into much more detail if you respond so we can have a proper debate but your wrong

  • @xrim1139
    @xrim1139 9 місяців тому +5

    The espada are not star level it is not shown that it is a real star and is just artificial light created by aizen so the espadas scale to maybe country but are likely island if you upscale from grimmjows Rhode Island busting feat in his gran ray cero

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      Did u miss the part where he said they range from Continental to Star level not that they are exactly Star level

    • @marcoslightspeed5517
      @marcoslightspeed5517 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@sbthesage2100there is no range reaching star level here. Its country to multi continental level only

    • @xrim1139
      @xrim1139 9 місяців тому

      They barely scale to continental and I’m saying that that meta for the espada is wank and if you do that you can wank Mihawk to star level based off whitebeards feat of being able to destroy the world and the one peice earth being star sized

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      @@xrim1139 I already mentioned that and how do they barley scale to continental 😂 once again bro just mentioned it he didn’t say they were or were not a certain level

    • @xrim1139
      @xrim1139 9 місяців тому

      @@sbthesage2100 Also skypeia luffy who all of the warlords maybe excluding crocodile scale above destroyed eneru's raigo that could destroy a country

  • @Meepie_Playz
    @Meepie_Playz 2 місяці тому

    Espada solo

  • @janthonybelk8553
    @janthonybelk8553 9 місяців тому

    Otsuski vs espada

  • @bloxytata
    @bloxytata 14 днів тому

    grimmjow one taps mid piss verse its not even a debate goodbye

  • @incogni.bro3957
    @incogni.bro3957 9 місяців тому

    kisame vs jinbei

    • @josephtung5280
      @josephtung5280 9 місяців тому

      Jimbei mid diff

    • @incogni.bro3957
      @incogni.bro3957 9 місяців тому

      @@josephtung5280 naw its more of a fight if you look at it closer depending if samehada dont absorb haki

    • @foreverx243
      @foreverx243 9 місяців тому

      @@incogni.bro3957 no really jimbei slams your giving jimbei a free win by making him fight kisame who uses water while jimbe would be able to control all of it

    • @foreverx243
      @foreverx243 9 місяців тому

      @@incogni.bro3957 theres also a major speed difference

  • @st.michaeluche688
    @st.michaeluche688 4 місяці тому

    Shanks >> x 10000000>>>>>> Do Flamingo

  • @OtsutsukiMelvyn
    @OtsutsukiMelvyn 9 місяців тому +1

    God damn I watch you a lot and I tont know why bro you font have to downplay the warlord god damn. Most of the low tier warlord are island lvl with boa jimbre and doffy being continental. While the top hitter is planetary yes planetary fight me. With the espada their easily multi continental to large planetary casually.
    With speed you said fuck ftl one piece I'm going to scale all of them to mhs 😭, like come on how much ftl attacks has someone got yo dodge for them to be ftl

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      All of this scaling is utter garbage

    • @pantsuuchan1169
      @pantsuuchan1169 5 місяців тому

      this take has to be the worst thing ive ever seen. watch bleach bro we can all tell you havent

  • @kd-eh2gb
    @kd-eh2gb 9 місяців тому +1

    The Warlords stomp.

    • @TheOmoKagee
      @TheOmoKagee 9 місяців тому +9

      yh keep believing that buddy

    • @crisis514
      @crisis514 8 місяців тому

      Another low iq anime that has no idea what he is talking about, the weakest bleach characters solo one piece verse and is not even a debate

    • @Hogyer
      @Hogyer 3 місяці тому

      Starrks reiatsu is enough 😭🙏

  • @MRPOOPY1
    @MRPOOPY1 9 місяців тому +1

    why was this a fight to begin with why can't you just put Escanor and against Whitebeard

    • @strygwr
      @strygwr 14 днів тому

      Escanor negs whitebeard😂😂

  • @gamerboyxx1557
    @gamerboyxx1557 3 місяці тому

    speaker better

  • @TashaneYoung-cl3vb
    @TashaneYoung-cl3vb 9 місяців тому

    Animeor manga

  • @JewelzCohen
    @JewelzCohen 3 місяці тому

    Pls don’t ever scale again

  • @Yezzzaaa
    @Yezzzaaa 9 місяців тому +4

    Tanjiro victims on my screen🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @manlight5035
    @manlight5035 9 місяців тому +2

    For one piece: "I know about MFTL scaling, but it's incorrect because it's just stucking multipliers to scale characters to infinity"
    For bleach: "Well Aaroniero dodged crumble of building so he is ftl, so ressurection is 10x multiplier, so everyone higher in espada scale even higher + Ulqiorra second release which is another 10x multiplier" 😂😂😂
    I guess collaboration made just to avoid one dude contradicting himself.
    Using that method of scaling warlords can be upscaled so much, that some of them potentially can solo entire espada.

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +1

      I didnt have any knowledge of the bleach section before the video if im being quite honest. The Espada wouldn’t be far off from what he said tho considering Ichigo was able to block light in the soul society arc while just in base no bankai

    • @manlight5035
      @manlight5035 9 місяців тому +1

      @@sbthesage2100 By this logic pre timeskip Zoro being completely exhausted and injured after fighting Oars could dodge light beam from Kuma litteraly avoiding direct hit fron point blank, while base ps Luffy neck dodged three of them and called them too slow. What the point?

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +2

      @@manlight5035 reaction speed dosent equal combat speed zoro dodging the pad cannons even if they’re light speed (highly debatable) dosent mean anything and it’s contradicted by later feats such as Luffy needing gear 4 snakeman to even keep up with kizaru’s light beams which are stated to move a light speed and again this is all combat speed has nothing to do with reactions

    • @manlight5035
      @manlight5035 9 місяців тому +1

      @@sbthesage2100 I didn't say anything about Pad Canon, i said about light beam and reaction doesn't allow you move your body out of a area of hit, otherwise Ichigo's feat is inconsistent as well.
      Kizaru isn't capped at speed of light in his stats (Luffy was fighting Kizaru directly, not his light beams), people should already learn it especially when he himself shown an ability to accelerate his light form in the same chapter.

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      @@manlight5035 I don’t even understand the first part my guy and okay my bad if you were talking about the light beam still dosent give zoro light speed combat speed and no Ichigo’s feat is not inconsistent he uses he sword to to block a ray of light this is actual combat speed he’s performing this feat in direct combat understand the difference

  • @Haikami
    @Haikami 9 місяців тому +2

    Highly doubt the Espada comes even close to that speed considering Ichigo after Ulquiorra was getting hit by Gin's confirmed mach 1000 Bankai. The whole "he was lying about it" thing also isn't true since the numbers he told Ichigo were confirmed in a databook and we don't know what he told Aizen. If Aaroniero dodging light makes all of the Espada lightspeed in base anyone who's stronger than base pre ts Luffy are also lightspeed

    • @MythicShadow04
      @MythicShadow04 9 місяців тому +2

      No it was indeed a lie. His entire bankai works different than what it is shown in that fight with Ichigo. Not to mention, you could argue that Gin wasn't really going all out since he really had no need to kill Ichigo right there, and kept him more as a backup in case his plan failed.

    • @frogoyes7611
      @frogoyes7611 9 місяців тому +3

      His blade disintegrates and then reforms by particles. Making the sword instantly just appear / disappear.

    • @foreverx243
      @foreverx243 9 місяців тому

      well number one he did lie about his bankai its not mach 1000 anyways it was mach 500,and his bankai works as his blade isnt going really fast and extending it just turns into dust,while in each particle within the dust has poison that was able to hurt and stun aizen. for speed each espada should be ftl+ in this video both the warlords and espadas were downplayed but that gin feat of ichigo getting hit is just a outlier anyways since we see consistent ftl scaling,like how in the ss arc the lieutenants are able to dodge negation which is stated to be light and we already know ichigo far surpasses them as he wins against byakuya and even a kenpachi(whos holding back) we have ichigo blocking menos grande cero which is stated to be light,ichigo dodges ulqs lance which is also stated to be light speed in the databooks and ofc we have the sunlight speed feat so just in the start of bleach you alr have them at consistent ftl-ftl+ this is not including the amps and multipliers

    • @Haikami
      @Haikami 9 місяців тому +1

      @@foreverx243 His databook confirms the fastest form it's double the speed. The outliers here are those "lightspeed" feats, not Gin's Bankai's speed confirmed by both him and his databook. Something being called light doesn't make it lightspeed. Not to mention Candice's arrows being MUCH slower than lightning and only reaching lightning speed when using actual lightning. Grimmjow was also called fast in the novel by moving at the same speed as Candice's lightning bolt. Kinda hard to believe liutenants are ftl when Grimmjow gets complimented for moving at lightning speed, and he's much stronger than most shingami

    • @ningnings_randomworld
      @ningnings_randomworld 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Haikamigin’s bankai isnt 500x the speed of sound, it is 500x the speed that he claps at, so it doesnt debunk any lightspeed scaling. If anything, I would say that candice’s arrows being lightning speed is an outlier as regular shinigami in squad 2 are stated to be lightning speed, and I have a hard time believing they could move as fast as Candice’s attacks

  • @Knull575
    @Knull575 9 місяців тому +1

    Ony gonna cover three warlords ap and speed
    First
    Jinbei
    Upscales from characters such as Don Chinjoa who was capable of splitting the jewel ice continent with his head making Jinbei continental bare minimum
    Had enough force in his attacks to sent Big Mom flying
    Speed
    Scales relative to post timeskip Fishman island arc Luffy who was calling light speed beams slow
    Jinbei could also fight relative to gear 2 Luffy which however you take it is a 5-10 times multiplier
    Making Jinbei 5-10 ftl
    Now we move onto Doflamingo
    AP
    Doflamingo was able to casually slice off parts of Fugitora's meteors which gets dragged from space and move at incredible speeds
    That could get calc to either country level - continental levels of attack potency
    We then see Doflamingo casually fighting gear 2 Luffy who scales to multi continental via gear multipliers
    Making Doflamingo multi continental in AP
    As for speed
    Was shown to out do gear 2 Luffy making him 5-10 ftl
    As for Mihawk
    AP could be compared to Yonko making him Planetary
    As for speed if we're gonna assume he scales close or relative to Kaido or Luffy
    Luffy on the rooftop post conquerors haki mastery scales above his former self who got speed blitzed and one shot by Kaido
    Making onigashima Luffy
    Mftl meaning the same for Mihawk

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому +3

      You can disprove all this junk in like 20 min lmao

    • @Knull575
      @Knull575 9 місяців тому

      @@sbthesage2100 do it then

    • @sbthesage2100
      @sbthesage2100  9 місяців тому

      @@Knull575 would you like to debate all of this tomorrow ?

    • @thehdtv7552
      @thehdtv7552 9 місяців тому

      ​@@Knull575bro jimbei is fodder compared to prime chinjao, he can actually fight GARP, old chinjao is a shell of his former self.
      Garp literally fought supreme grade blades with his fists yet trained to actually surpass chinjao's head.
      I know it seems insane but it's true.
      Also you can say OP was downplayed but so was bleach. If you have actually read both you would know just setting the espada as FTL in base is massive downplay.

    • @manlight5035
      @manlight5035 9 місяців тому

      ​@@thehdtv7552I watched bleach and there is no even single feat higher than island level or speed higher than hypersonic.

  • @defort2208
    @defort2208 6 місяців тому

    I got mihawk to galaxy with mftl+

    • @Meepie_Playz
      @Meepie_Playz 2 місяці тому

      He’s galaxy or MFTL+ learn to scale

  • @Subhacks1st
    @Subhacks1st 9 місяців тому +1

    Bro tanjiro solos

    • @fwtranq
      @fwtranq 5 місяців тому

      Fr bro

  • @NoGymNeeded
    @NoGymNeeded 9 місяців тому +1

    Luffy wasnt 5 times faster than lightning come on. Thats always the worst thing imo in the one piece PS community