You always lowball in the speed of the one piece characters just enough so that the Naruto characters win you did the same thing in the Roger vs Hashirama video Your goofy self really compared mihawk and black beard with gear two Luffy in speed didn’t even have the balls to compare them to gear fourth
You wanna pull up some non wanked calcs of OP speed then my g? I'm always out here fighting for OP to stand higher than most ppl give it credit for but im not out here trying to say that Luffy is 900,000,000X ftl like some dumbfucks be calcing. Post some reasonable math or allow the crying.
Exactly what I said. Foxy’s beam was sol, Luffy dodged it, Kuma palm fruit was sol, Zoro dodged multiple, Kizaru/pacifista light beams, monster trio dodge them easily. He’s just really bias for no reason.
I'm not sure why the lightspeed feat for One Piece is being considered invalid. The beams Luffy dodged after the time skip are actual beams of light and he avoids them casually in base. Why are lightspeed feats counted in Naruto but not One Piece?
Luffy also has ftl(+) reaction, combat movement, and continuous combat speed showings wayyyyyyy before the timeskip and even before any of his gears too. The fight with Foxy and Long Ring Long Land Arc.
Because if you see an attack coming and you know where it's gonna land and you move out of the way before each one of them hits that doesn't mean that your lightspeed he could see where each one of Kumas attacks were coming from with Observation haki so for instance if I knew a light speed attack was gonna come at me from the left and I move out of the way That doesn't make me light speed
@@Michael-zi3kkFALSE! Luffy when fighting Kaido said that he could see his incoming attacks but couldn't fully dodge them because of how fast Kaido was. Even if Luffy can see the attacks incoming, he has to be fast enough to dodge them, therefore he has to be ftl+.
Even if he saw the lasers coming at him using haki Luffy still waited until after the beams were fired then proceeded to weave his head out of the way of all three shots while calling them slow. Since Luffy did in fact weave his head between the shots in base & very casually then I see no reason why he couldn’t throw a punch at that speed just as casually. Going by that logic then any Warlords Luffy encounters after this point that are able to give him a rough fight should easily have combat/reaction speeds multiple times faster than light. Right? I’m honestly not trying to be antagonistic but posting these comments. I’m just genuinely wondering why One Piece speed scaling is being down played compared to Naruto? Naruto has its speed feats of elite Jonin and above characters reacting to light speed attacks as well while in combat. I’d just like to know what the difference is between the two series light speed feats.
Almost everything is calculeted well, except for speeds. Furthermore, a small island level character can't beat a planet level one, even by being as fast or faster than him. All of them have observation haki which is an equivalent to a sharingan and avoid any instant-win tecnique. So yeah, the Akatsuki is losing this match-up.
I am glad you mentioned the fact he outscaled mihawk, Blackbeard at planetary. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their Ap
@@kingrippzard2027honestly one piece speed blitzing is very common in anime, they even use it some sports themed anime, so speed in one piece is just to make cool fights...
@@kingrippzard2027 theres is no açtual way to assess there speeds unless we know whats there base speeds are, dodging light beams are not one of thet, any thing that has destructive power have mass so it cant travel at the speed of light..
@sbthesage2100 combat speed and travel speed are different things we saw Kuma travel from kawbaka Kingdom to the red line at the blink of an eye so we know Kuma light speed isn't cap and it wasn't like zoro had observation back then and coming from a fight with moria dodging light speed attacks from Kuma can be used to scale most of the warlords so saying they would get blitz is crazy
@@MidTeirHuman how dow/ him traveling somewhere hold any epistemic value to him being light speed ? Lmao those two are literally just unrelated bc you can’t even quantify how much time that would take and saying it’s light speed it baseless
@sbthesage2100 Kuma was stated to be light speed due to his Devil fruit I brought up the travel feat to show that it wasn't just a Exaggeration of his abilities and I never said zoro doged them easily he just got off of a fight with moria and oars when I said easily I was referring to luffy dodging the light beams
one piece characters have to use their abilities very precisely so that they won't destroy the island cause most of them are DF users, they hold back a lot.
Few things to address Mihawk can foresee miles into the future If it's a Team battle royale it's Really one sided since Mihawk can clear all dangerous paths Crocodile can literally one Touch almost every member of the Akatsuki (THIS IS NOT A JOKE READ THE SHOW OR WATCH IT) Doffy can literally Fly up Make a bird cage and leave The island which would force the Akatsuki to rely on kamui Doing so Mihawk can get a quick scope in the future And see where will they go Also Kuma can legit do a loop where he can Literally grab one of the warlords Damage him/Her Remove the pain and send it to the Akatsuki Members Although ameterasu burns everything Being clairvoyant is still something he can not bypass Mihawk will see it and henceforth leave or avoid any Range Itachi can do to Use it against him or anyone
Did u even Watch the video I think I clearly explain most of these warlords are to slow to do anything with these abilities also seeing into the future is not really helpful if your opponent vastly out speeds you
@@sbthesage2100 Bro The best Speed feats for the Akatsuki are Just basic light speed Seeing into the future is a big factor here Specially for Characters like Mihawk and Law Being able to react and dodge light beams aren't Light speed in travel speed but it does put up the ability that They can react to Something fast as light Attack at the same speeds is a Huge factor here you have to look at Heck Marco can React and fly at Kizaru's attack against whiteboard he reacted Had the time to throw an ability or pull a move before that attack landed on whiteberad Mihawk and Law who will definitely preform better feats than Marco is Of course faster Oh yeah remember Kuma also has teleportation He can literally grab crocodile, Teleport him and crocodile And one of them can literally hold a Akatsuki Member and make them be unavailable as the fight goes on Itachi and Obito who let's Say can react to this with the Sharingan aren't affected much These two already getting rid of multiple fighters from the other team And for your bullshit Speed debate Just because They can react to light but not move as fast as it doesn't make them Slow in general Remember Yes it's true I can react to a car traveling at 80 m/h but I'm not fast enough to dodge it But we're talking about the speed of light here Light travel's at 300milion miles per second You can literally have the reaction speed to see this but you still need the Dodging speed to actually dodge it Which Luffy did Multiple times against Foxy 3 times against a Pacifista IN BASE ONCE TOO Luffy needs the Combat speed to actually dodge these attack's because they are travelling at the Speed of Light Heck if this was the case throughout the entire fight the warlords are viewing the world in slow motion
@@twonony2686 Obito will try but Mihawk will see it Heck if he tried to at least use it against someone it's going to leave him wide open wtf he he gonna do once Kuma teleports behind him and Sends him to the void
@@sbthesage2100 cap the only real akasuki members with impressive speeed feats are, Obitio, Itachi, Kisama, Maybe deidara and even then It’s the bare minimum of Light speed, On top of that one piece character Have not only better durability then Naruto characters, But also way better stamina
Now that's some serious downplay on the warlords speed scaling and some serious wank on the akatsuki spees scaling😂, dude started of good just to end up succumbing to his bias
@@sbthesage2100 none of the akatsuki are ls bruh,not even Obito, until maybe he obtained the rinnegan or the ten tails. And what do you mean by reaction speed isn't equal to attack speed? I've never heard that one before😂if they can perceive and react to ls attacks why can't they attack at that speed too? If they can't then how tf was Rayleigh able to intercept and cut kizaru whilst he was in his light form?? You're just biased man
@@sbthesage2100 According to the data books killer bees fastest feat should be near sol, but then you said the same guy intercepted the raikage at 100 times sol. 😂😂😂
I don’t agree with most of this. I think you might have a bias towards naruto tbh. They literally dodged the light beams in sabaody before the time skip (actually jumped over and ran past it) and there’s also characters who’s attacks in one piece who’s attacks are stated to be light speed that most of the warlords scale above. You also used some of the weakest calcs for some warlords AP like Law at city level. It’s your channel and you can say or do whatever you want but I’m just saying I sense some bias and it kinda takes the enjoyment out the video. You also downplayed the hax for the warlords by a LOT.
Debate me ill literally why that’s dumb af bc I already brought it up and explained why it’s a reaction speed feat sorry one piece fans are slow idk how that makes me bias for example I think Fujitora stomps pain and not a single one piece fan would call me bias if I made that video bc they’re character would win so who tf is really bias 💀 niggas genuinely toon hours of my time scaling as best as I could for brain dead ppl like you to say shit like this pls get off my channel lol also weaker calcs ? Those are basically only calcs and anyone you’re probably thinking ab doesn’t even check mathematically
@@sbthesage2100 didn’t see your comment till now but that was childish and sad. Would’ve definitely debated but you showed your bias and that you’re not worth debating. Didn’t even insult you once.
Also gotta remember that Luffy straight up said that Kaidos attack was too fast to react to even though he called laser beams slow. If that doesn't tell you that they're combating at FTL speeds I don't know what will. Kizaru is literally making his move and I gotta wonder what excuses will be made after this shit.
Thank you!!!!! Like if I can dodge light attacks but someone comes along and hits me than that person just hit me faster than light, like duhhhh. And luffy is able to keep up in speed.
So let me get this straight... The Verse(One Piece)that has consistent statements for Lightspeed... and not only stating but showing consistent LS speed fts ON PANEL is SOMEHOW supposed to be "Slower" than the verse with questionable statements and very limited on panel LS speed fts??? Somebody fuckin lying ...
Wtf are you even talking ab Moron one light-speed statement does not make every character light speed also I scaled characters in this video to MFTL so I don’t understand this comment in the slightest please use your fucking brain
@@sbthesage2100 @sbthesage2100 No you use YOUR brain. It has been widely known that One Piece as a whole has far more consistent statements and speed feats and that is why in any major debate site the verse majority of the time scaled higher in speed. Obviously not in AP but speed was the concession where as Shounen like Naruto and Bleach lacked the feats and statements to back up said speed(More so bleach). I'm going to need you to get your facts straight. Back in 2016 and so on I was apart of MVC, OBD(Naruto forums), and Comic Vine. Your scaling is ass trash and disingenuous. You can't even fathom that there is a general consensus of tier. You think these One Piece fans are mad at nothing? Your video is a joke. There are literally better power scaling UA-camrs who are more genuine about the Meta when it comes to the HST. Even if I'm more so a One Piece debater I don't believe OP can beat Naruto God Tiers Like Naruto or Sasuke (Yet) and that is because of AP. There is a balance in which you lack and that lack of balance and knowledge makes your take flaming hot garbage juice.... Period.
@sbthesage2100 see luffy has light speed reaction speed and doffy blized this luffy and he would get faster in later arcs that means doffy was ftl so luffy is mftl
Mihawk isn't confirmed to have conqueror's. Also, the light speed is relevant because Luffy dodged multiple on each side, meaning that he moved his head fast enough in the opposite direction to dodge light, or in your analogy hitting a baseball on your left followed instantly by another on the right.
If mihawk does not have advanced kings haki then zoro would have already surpassed him and we know that hasn't happened yet. There is a reason that zoro who has trained under him for 2 years put mihawk on a piller above everybody.
Still don’t get the whole “reaction speed” argument. When Luffy fought Boa Hancock’s sisters, they both had reaction speed much faster than Luffy due to Observation haki. Yet Luffy was still able to blitz them. Even currently in OP, Luffy was able to use futuresight on Kaido yet Kaido still perception blitzed him. Hell even Niji has an attack called “Light Speed Sword” in which Ichiji scales to just for Ichiji to get slammed at point blank by katakuri. In the same arc Oven could perceive Ichiji’s attacks yet Sanji went so fast that he managed to jump in front of Oven from a distance behind him, attack him, and then disappear before Oven could even see who it was.
It baffles me that Naruto speed scaling characters faster than light just accepted by all. But one piece speed scaling well he just reacts to the light beam or aim dodging that's not combat speed. I just don't see why Naruto dodging light fang while having several sensing forms like sage mode and six path abilities plus speed amps but Luffy dodging light beams doesn't make him ftl in combat
I never use the light fang to scale lmao the fang can be TSOL of light but Naruto dodged his neck swing not the attack speed also if you bothered to pay attention dodging something is reaction speed not combat speed
He said he repels air at the light speed and creates a shockwave that dosent necessitate the pad cannons moving at light speed also wouldn’t make sense considering he has literal light beam attack that zoro barley dodges while he’s floating through the pad cannons W profile pic btw
@@sbthesage2100 Zoro under high stakes is light speed movement under normal circumstances he is realistically pre time skip. But if Kuma is repelling the air at light speed the shockwaves wouldn't lose any speed and be moving at light speed as well
@@sbthesage2100cope. Idk why you stay trynna down play one piece speed feats😂 author says “it’s light speed” then it is. That’s how it goes man😂 Author said “luffy can make everyone around him a cartoon” and it happened. This is the life of powerscaling. You don’t get to negate the mangaka’s definitive statements because you disagree. Btw are you black?
Tbh i feel like when the day comes for mihawk and blackbeard to show their true power i think that they would be way faster mihawk isnt the strongest swordsman for nothing and knowing how oda does things we would see some big power showcase from mihawk by himself. Which will turn this fight upside down i think that the only way to finish all of these debates about one piece is when it ends that way we would have seen everything about everyones power but good video and an underatted channel at that
Like deadass...you know u cappin...Cuz if Mihawk keep Itachi busy...then the akatski stand no chance....who stopping Boa, Law, and Doffy? Deidra , Hidan, and Kaku are done bruv😂
@@thetss1938 he has massive bias cause he's capping the warlords at island level which is disingenuous since islands in one piece can be as big as continents in our world like Alabasta which was calculated to be as big as Australia
hw is jusr glazing doffy mihawk bb keep obito itachi and pain busy and law negs all the others orangs then it is 3 vs 7 they again keep they distracted law steals the hearts and boa crushes
@@raizelnnim I have watched and or read both of them not completely, but enough to where I have a pretty fair grasp on each of the worlds but I really want to hear why you think the akatsuki would beat the warlords
@@xadoc1230You wont even take a second to read my comment. Youll see one statement you dont like nd automatically respond. Reason I dont do internet debates. But Naruto is tricky they are ninja i bet you itachi/nagato can singlehandedly defeat all warlords. You read only that and started to reply without reading my whole comment thats how ik you biased. Itachi one shots most of these characters. Too many hax and skills. Plus a master of all natures such as wind,water,earth and fire. Nagato has rinnegan that's enough to solo these characters itachi is a walking hax thats it
Didn't he say mihawk, Blackbeard are at small planet in AP. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their AP. So idk how he came to the conclusion the Akatsuki wins in the end
14:26 HUHHHH, Ik reaction and combat is different but if I can perceive and Dodge something meaning I have to MOVE MY BODY in order to do so. Would I not be able to fight in that same speed since I just did in reaction terms though…?
Reactions do not not equal movements 😭 just bc you dodge something dosen't mean you travel or fight at the same speed as the object holy shit also all calcs for fluffy dodging the beams are relativistic not ftl
@@HaxHavok it really did, but I looked into it more online and I guess it kinda makes sense, if you can perceive or know something comking then you can move out of the way. But on the other hand if a person is able to move and fight at the same speed as the thing you had to dodge before hand then you would be inevitably slower
Even oda is making parellesim to tell u it’s light speed. Before time skip kizaru blitzed luffy and said “too slow” fast forward to post time skip a beam that was described as KIZARU’S beams was fired at luffy and guess wat luffy said? He said “too slow” like come on now if u ask the author if luffy could move at light speed at that point I’m sure he would say yes. Sometimes we get so caught up in all this power scaling and science n shit that we forget about wat the author is indirectly yet very clearly trying to tell us 🤦🏽♂️
@@sbthesage2100ALAYE!!!! Agree bro. Ur not trained and ur using urself as an example for trained and expert individuals on combat. Ur mediocre compared to them. Once u can react to somn .. you train urself to counter it my bro. Stop saying dumb shii
Honestly Mihawk and Law are enough to 2vAll the Akatsuki and win because Mihawk is comparable to Shanks (who can attack someone with his Conq haki from several miles away outside a country and pin point your exact location with his observation haki and then rain down Conq haki lightning upon you and OHKO a 3B berri man and his right hand man at the same time). Mihawk also has future sight so he can see every attack thrown at him. Law uses room and can amputate everyone and since Narutoverse doesn't have haki, then Law legitimately one shots them and he can teleport on the same level as the Flying Raijin and the Akatsuki has absolutely 0 answers for that technique and that technique is put on a pedestal in the verse so if Law can just casually teleport around like the 4th hokage then htf does the Akatsuki win? Plus Law can create an attack that can go down all the way into the core of the One Piece world (which is wayyyy bigger than the Naruto world). Then add in Kuma who can simply one tap and send Akatsuki members flying away and Crocodile who can OHKO if he lands a grab and the other Warlords for back up and it is a sweep. Warlords are vastly stronger than the Akatsuki but the Akatsuki are the better team unit though. BTW if you mention Itachi's susano, you guys realize that Mihawk and Law can one tap it and destroy it since they can casually destroy whole mountain ranges since early on into One Piece? Like dude that is Madara susano level of power that they showed when they were just half way through the series and we are in the final saga and they jumped up leaps and bounds in power.
Mihawk is soloing the entire akatsuki pretty easily. Law and doflamingo together would also easily destroy them. Few of the akatsuki or Naruto characters in general are Ben mountain level and we see law casually destroy a mountain range and law and doggy both casually destroyed a fujitora meteor that was moving faster than madras’s meteor. It’s the seven warlords and it’s not even close….damn I forgot kuma is also probably casually beating them bc he can move ftl casually as well and outclasses all of them with simple speed
I think if he didnt use the Warlords from when they first joined it would be totally different bc he used Alabasta Crocodile and not Marineford or Cross Guild Croc and he used BB with only the darkness fruit and not the Quake.
@@crazyelementalguy9649 they’re still losing. Like I said, Mihawk solos. Doffy and Law also beat them pretty soundly. He says that fresh off of training post time skip gear second luffy is only reacting to light and it doesn’t mean that he can actually move at light speed. Not only is that wrong on the surface, but he’s wrong within his own example. You can see once he gets the laser shot at him, he goes into gear second then speed blitzes the pacifista before the laser even gets to where he was standing. Doflamingo and law both scale to this speed at bare minimum. (Not to mention that law can teleport without having to rely on throwing a kunai first like the 4th hokage, who has been shown to speed blitz even obito. So technically Law can teleport faster and at a greater variety of angles)Also again there is a massive AP gap. The akatsuki are losing baddddd.
@@madisonbordenave4869 Yeah trust me im on the Warlords side for sure but what im saying is i think this was the reason why he made the Warlords lose, and i also dont agree with the speed calcs he stated bc i believe Mihawk should be faster.
Sanji before his awakening was routinely dodging laster beams from Queen all of Onigashima, OP even has light speed feats pre timeskip, you accept the naruto light speed feats but completely ignore the OP ones?? Be soo fr
In case anyone is wondering, there's a youtuber who calced the sizes of both the One Piece and Naruto worlds. His name is DcDoesPhysics. According to his calcs, the One Piece world is about 37 times bigger than Earth, and the Naruto world is 6 times bigger than Earth.
What’s the fastest move in naruto because I don’t see any characters doing anything crazy with speed feats besides Minatos teleportation raikage and Naruto dodging the light attack from madara
haku literally moves at light speed and naruto with a lil kyuubi chakra can track and punch him. Btw haku isn’t a jounin level threat and kakashi thought they could handle him. Madaras attack was instantaneous not light speed
i dont think this guy is right abt the speed, there are other videos in further detail talking abt speed and luffy had 900x the speed of light and we know shanks upscales from that and mihawk is relative or if not faster than him
@@sbthesage2100Your scaling isn’t common knowledge like other One Piece/Naruto scalers so why would it make sense for us to believe your flawed scaling is correct?
@@sbthesage2100you’re scaling some of the warlords to city or small island but in the one piece world these islands can span the length of continents. A major downplay in power and I have a question if you’re allowing Blackbeard to nullify jutsu then Blackbeard should be able to pull them in with that case.
So what about chinjao. He is able to split an ice continent with one attack and doffy should masively scale above that. 4th gear luffy is at 30x multiplier from sai, who has the same feat as chinjao
Khonan loses to boa with out prep time Itachi beats law edo itachi Kisame loses to Jimbe Sasori can use the fruit or abilatys of any one in his stringes Diedara beats crocodile because dust bombs are smaller then sand Kakazu loses to kuma Hidan loses to buggy Orochimaru beats weival Pain beats black beard Obito solos me hawk
@@sbthesage2100 explain how if someone has a set destructive capacity that they can also tank it or the other way round (i dont use discord) like Dedara cant tank his strongest attack
I think the outcome of a team battle between both organizations would be very difficult to predict for several reasons: 1. The lack of information of both sides about each other powers. It doesnt matter how strong a character is if it faces an opponent that he doesnt know what its capable of or the nature of its powers. For example if Akatsuki doesnt know Law can steal their hearts or switch their bodies, how will they counter that? 2. The lack of teamwork between the different members of each organization. The strongest abilities or attacks of some of the members of each side may hurt or even kill its own teammates. 3. Compatibility between its opponents. A member of the Akatsuki may be strong against one member of the Shichibukai but weak against another one so the outcome would be mainly determined by who he fights first. 4. Numerical superiority. There is the possibility of two members of an organization working together to overwhelm a single foe of the other team. PD: I think you are underestimating Jimbei too much
“Law is our last city level, cutting through a mountain….” And a man covered in adamant haki, with the mountain in a single strike, which is magnitudes stronger than a man made of solid steel(Alabaster arc). Legit. One Piece low baller. Go chug more narucum.
@@sbthesage2100 You still chose to ignore that the same cut also cut a human coated in Adamant haki(that disables fruit hax, and laws hax doesn’t even have close to mountain range, or was even turned on at that time even lmfao), which is way tougher then city, when a buggy ball from the first few episodes is at least large town, and buggy tanked it with no damage, no haki and literally the first few episodes. Want more Narucum? You still have some on your shirt but I’m sure the orange man will give ya another serving.
I love one piece but I find it super difficult to see how white beard is small planet lvl. Feats over statements ex: 9tails is stated to have the power to turn the world to ash that doesn’t scale the 9tails to planet lvl same thing with white beard.
@@Mazdha except I 100% specified it was black beard as a warlord you’re. Clearly the one who’s bias but we can debate ab it if you want discord.gg/pandemonia
no offense, i can tell you put lots of time and effort into these videos and ur consistent, but u always downplay the one piece verse in your naruto vs one piece videos, in many of these machups, the one piece verse clearly takes the win.
Broj love your vids , new subscriber here and an op fan , mihawk upskales from shanks right , if you agree, doffy scales to gear 4 Luffy right ? , And law I don't need to say who he scales to coz imo his hax just gives him a very high advantage, I think law , doffy and mihawk would be enough, the only problem will be Itachi
All I am going to say is pre time skip Luffy is massively faster than light cuz he was able to throw a punch faster than Enel in awaken form which is as fast as light base form and when you awaken it you get multipliers to everything so he would be even faster than light but Luffy with a big ass gold ball on his hand was able to out speed him.
@@Im_sensai if you’re implying I’m bias that’s just pure stupidity on your parts there’s more videos talking about one piece than Naruto on this channel as well as several videos where I have one piece characters/ groups winning lol
Nah that's a meat rider is crazy. Jinbe lives in the water. he fights in the water. And when he is in the water gets stronger and he manipulate water. like any other fishman this is crazy if your doing a vs battle please do it right.
Literally never said jimbe loses to water you must actually be fucking stupid to think when I say most of the warlords that I’m not referencing ones with devil fruit powers. Also if you’re gonna comment make sure you don’t sound fucking retarted pls 😂
@@limbo9993there’s absolutely no way anyone in the aktuskii has better speed feats then one piece characters, there’s people in one piece casually dodging light it self
@@theonetrueedgelord3596The difference is. That One Piece characters are dodging and reacting to light speed attacks at POINT BLANK RANGE! Also Luffy is blitzing Foxy who can react to his own photons
if they fight in Naruto verse most likely Akatsuki wins , IF they fight in OP verse no doubt Warlords wins, remember guys only real water hates evolved beings with DF but not some water made up of chakra, Kisame is not nullifying any DF users!
@@sbthesage2100 even if that is real, the question is if it will weaken the DF users or not? Since they are from an entirely different universe and why water from OP universe weakens the df users is a whole new story, Why would you want to argue over such an stupid attempt of comparing two different anime verses? You almost looked stupid even though i watched the whole video out of curiosity 😀
I people are talking about power scaling, but what’s going on with the audio, I’m watch this on my tv, an I don’t know whether to raise the volume or lower because it keeps changing lol It’s like it’s in flux
there is absolutely no way the OP world is 9 times larger than our sun. it's roughly 4 times larger than our earth, only. idk what kind of math you did, mostly likey meth. if OP world was 9 times the size of the sun, it would take Luffy years of straight sailing just to get to the red line from reverse mountain.
Naruto universe - I have the power of repulsion and attraction so I can create a mini celestial body. One piece universe - I have a sword so I can cut through a mountain with more force than a nuclear weapon.
Idk man everytime u do a one piece video it seems like a EXTREME lowball there’s no way Itachi and Kisame are faster then Mihawk and BB. When they scale beyond post ts Luffy who dodged light this Luffy is complete fodder trash in speed compared to Mihawk and BB The pacifesta laser is confirmed to be Kizaru’s too we also see Zoro dodging light against kuma I don’t get how Itachi is basically soloing the warlords let’s not forget the massive AP difference Mihawk ,BB and even Doffy are multi Continental range while the Akatsuki are large country at best .
You keep saying dodge like I didn’t explain why dodging dosent equate to combat speed also do you not understand that hacks can make up for AP and that I scaled the Akatsuki higher in speed like the cope on your part is insane I can debate you on any refutations you have with the scale and debunk any cancer light speed calc stacking for the straw hats
@@sbthesage2100 first off chill you’re spazzing like a 12 year old . Your speed argument make no sense when we see Luffy fight Kaido and try to use haki but got blitzed the same Luffy who dodged light we later see him fight Kaido and react to him he definitely has light speed combat the warlords should scale . Let’s not forget Blackbeard and Ace fighting when black beard said light can’t even escape his darkness and Ace was still able to fight him and Kizaru fighting characters like Marco who’s far slower then most of the warlords . I don’t agree with Akatsuki having light speed combat at all . And yes hax can bypass a AP difference but not when it’s Country vs Multi Continental - planet lvl that argument makes no sense when the warlords are already faster and have better AP . There’s a reason why ppl in the comments don’t agree with your one piece scaling .
Sasori was never compared to darui. You say killer bee is 117×ftl when Naruto isn't even near that. You say itachi speed blitz when his fastest attack which is seemingly impossible to dodge is lightning speed. You say Luffy vs doffys clash was only island level when laws clash with fujitaros meteor alone was island level You are so biased
1) Buggy > Luffy G2 ID > Rob Gucchi > Enel > Conti+ > Nora > Croc Alabasta Arc > Control of all the sand in Alabasta = Low Conti 2) The number of Uta fans is 87990000000000 living beings. So, that's more than 10000 times the current population of Earth. If you do a proportion with the surface area of the planet, it should be 5101000000000 km^2, and a radius of about 637000 km, which is a little less than the radius of the Sun. So the planet (well, or it's a huge Dyson sphere or something) should be the size of a star, even if only Uta fans are considered. 3)The water in One Piece is a living thing that does not allow users of the devil fruit to swim. 4)And also the shadow in the One Piece world is the other half of every creature's soul. If you are without a part of this soul under the sun, you will be erased from existence. 5)Shadows of Moria was able to cross 1/4 of the entire Grand Line in a blink of an eye. Even the weakest characters in the arc were able to react and catch the shadows. If I only count OP characters achievements then they will have 1000+ FTL and large planets starting with admirals easily through doriki. If I only count Naruto/Boruto character achievements they will have sub-relativistic speed and large planets at max. One Piece characters simply have more feats.
In any case naruto verse needs to weave hand signs 😂😂😂 That much opening is Enough for one piece charecters like mihawk and law 😂😂. Warlords will win instantly😂😂.
The OPs replies to anyone who disagrees with him by throwing insults such as "moron" or "slow", even if the comment that disagree with him was respectful or cordial. L childish behavior.
this was some goofy as scaling at the end. just completely downplayed all the lightspeed feats in one piece and ignored the extreme power gap between both sides just to give the akatsuki the win.
You always lowball in the speed of the one piece characters just enough so that the Naruto characters win you did the same thing in the Roger vs Hashirama video
Your goofy self really compared mihawk and black beard with gear two Luffy in speed didn’t even have the balls to compare them to gear fourth
You wanna debate it ? discord.gg/pandemonia
Alr I joined
We gonna debate in text debates
@@King_Zahndo3612 you got clapped lmao I bet you feel real dumb now
You wanna pull up some non wanked calcs of OP speed then my g? I'm always out here fighting for OP to stand higher than most ppl give it credit for but im not out here trying to say that Luffy is 900,000,000X ftl like some dumbfucks be calcing.
Post some reasonable math or allow the crying.
Bro started missing the moment he scaled speed💀
I know right. Like dude, old rayley was keeping up with kizaru who is faster than light.
If sasori dodges light he is light speed but when base Luffy dodges light it is just reaction speed 😂😂
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BTW base post timeskip Luffy dodged multiple light attacks.
Exactly what I said. Foxy’s beam was sol, Luffy dodged it, Kuma palm fruit was sol, Zoro dodged multiple, Kizaru/pacifista light beams, monster trio dodge them easily. He’s just really bias for no reason.
@@seanwuzhere12 a lot of power scalers are like this, try steinox he is a good powerscaler imp.
Where did he say that, he said he had attacks that move at light speed
I'm not sure why the lightspeed feat for One Piece is being considered invalid. The beams Luffy dodged after the time skip are actual beams of light and he avoids them casually in base. Why are lightspeed feats counted in Naruto but not One Piece?
Luffy also has ftl(+) reaction, combat movement, and continuous combat speed showings wayyyyyyy before the timeskip and even before any of his gears too. The fight with Foxy and Long Ring Long Land Arc.
Because if you see an attack coming and you know where it's gonna land and you move out of the way before each one of them hits that doesn't mean that your lightspeed he could see where each one of Kumas attacks were coming from with Observation haki so for instance if I knew a light speed attack was gonna come at me from the left and I move out of the way That doesn't make me light speed
@@Michael-zi3kk He wasn't using observation haki? But even if he was you still have to be relative enough to dodge regardless
@@Michael-zi3kkFALSE! Luffy when fighting Kaido said that he could see his incoming attacks but couldn't fully dodge them because of how fast Kaido was. Even if Luffy can see the attacks incoming, he has to be fast enough to dodge them, therefore he has to be ftl+.
Even if he saw the lasers coming at him using haki Luffy still waited until after the beams were fired then proceeded to weave his head out of the way of all three shots while calling them slow. Since Luffy did in fact weave his head between the shots in base & very casually then I see no reason why he couldn’t throw a punch at that speed just as casually. Going by that logic then any Warlords Luffy encounters after this point that are able to give him a rough fight should easily have combat/reaction speeds multiple times faster than light. Right?
I’m honestly not trying to be antagonistic but posting these comments. I’m just genuinely wondering why One Piece speed scaling is being down played compared to Naruto?
Naruto has its speed feats of elite Jonin and above characters reacting to light speed attacks as well while in combat. I’d just like to know what the difference is between the two series light speed feats.
Almost everything is calculeted well, except for speeds. Furthermore, a small island level character can't beat a planet level one, even by being as fast or faster than him. All of them have observation haki which is an equivalent to a sharingan and avoid any instant-win tecnique. So yeah, the Akatsuki is losing this match-up.
I am glad you mentioned the fact he outscaled mihawk, Blackbeard at planetary. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their Ap
The speed is what really annoyed me.
@@kingrippzard2027honestly one piece speed blitzing is very common in anime, they even use it some sports themed anime, so speed in one piece is just to make cool fights...
@@amaranusa it’s common and cool, but it’s also a very important part of speed scaling.
@@kingrippzard2027 theres is no açtual way to assess there speeds unless we know whats there base speeds are, dodging light beams are not one of thet, any thing that has destructive power have mass so it cant travel at the speed of light..
Luffy casually dodged light casually pre timeskip zoro dodged light beams and crippled dodged kumas light speed paw attacks the op slander gotta stop💀
Watch the video it wasn’t casually you moron they have to dodge dodge = combat speed but reaction speed use your brain
@sbthesage2100 combat speed and travel speed are different things we saw Kuma travel from kawbaka Kingdom to the red line at the blink of an eye so we know Kuma light speed isn't cap and it wasn't like zoro had observation back then and coming from a fight with moria dodging light speed attacks from Kuma can be used to scale most of the warlords so saying they would get blitz is crazy
@@MidTeirHuman how dow/ him traveling somewhere hold any epistemic value to him being light speed ? Lmao those two are literally just unrelated bc you can’t even quantify how much time that would take and saying it’s light speed it baseless
@@MidTeirHuman he dosent dodge light speed attacks re read the fight he barley dodges the confirmed light speed attack ie a reaction speed feat
@sbthesage2100 Kuma was stated to be light speed due to his Devil fruit I brought up the travel feat to show that it wasn't just a Exaggeration of his abilities and I never said zoro doged them easily he just got off of a fight with moria and oars when I said easily I was referring to luffy dodging the light beams
one piece characters have to use their abilities very precisely so that they won't destroy the island cause most of them are DF users, they hold back a lot.
Few things to address
Mihawk can foresee miles into the future
If it's a Team battle royale it's Really one sided since Mihawk can clear all dangerous paths
Crocodile can literally one Touch almost every member of the Akatsuki (THIS IS NOT A JOKE READ THE SHOW OR WATCH IT)
Doffy can literally Fly up
Make a bird cage and leave The island which would force the Akatsuki to rely on kamui
Doing so Mihawk can get a quick scope in the future And see where will they go
Also Kuma can legit do a loop where he can Literally grab one of the warlords
Damage him/Her
Remove the pain and send it to the Akatsuki Members
Although ameterasu burns everything
Being clairvoyant is still something he can not bypass
Mihawk will see it and henceforth leave or avoid any Range Itachi can do to Use it against him or anyone
Did u even Watch the video I think I clearly explain most of these warlords are to slow to do anything with these abilities also seeing into the future is not really helpful if your opponent vastly out speeds you
@@sbthesage2100 Bro The best Speed feats for the Akatsuki are Just basic light speed
Seeing into the future is a big factor here
Specially for Characters like Mihawk and Law
Being able to react and dodge light beams aren't Light speed in travel speed but it does put up the ability that
They can react to Something fast as light
Attack at the same speeds is a Huge factor here you have to look at
Heck Marco can React and fly at Kizaru's attack against whiteboard
he reacted
Had the time to throw an ability or pull a move before that attack landed on whiteberad
Mihawk and Law who will definitely preform better feats than Marco is Of course faster
Oh yeah remember Kuma also has teleportation
He can literally grab crocodile, Teleport him and crocodile
And one of them can literally hold a Akatsuki Member and make them be unavailable as the fight goes on
Itachi and Obito who let's Say can react to this with the Sharingan aren't affected much
These two already getting rid of multiple fighters from the other team
And for your bullshit Speed debate
Just because They can react to light but not move as fast as it doesn't make them Slow in general
Remember Yes it's true I can react to a car traveling at 80 m/h but I'm not fast enough to dodge it
But we're talking about the speed of light here
Light travel's at 300milion miles per second
You can literally have the reaction speed to see this but you still need the Dodging speed to actually dodge it
Which Luffy did
Multiple times against Foxy
3 times against a Pacifista
IN BASE ONCE TOO
Luffy needs the Combat speed to actually dodge these attack's because they are travelling at the Speed of Light
Heck if this was the case throughout the entire fight the warlords are viewing the world in slow motion
Obito can kamui all of them, and Deidara will trap the warlords and c0 will do the work
@@twonony2686 Obito will try but Mihawk will see it
Heck if he tried to at least use it against someone it's going to leave him wide open wtf he he gonna do once Kuma teleports behind him and Sends him to the void
@@sbthesage2100 cap the only real akasuki members with impressive speeed feats are, Obitio, Itachi, Kisama, Maybe deidara and even then It’s the bare minimum of Light speed, On top of that one piece character Have not only better durability then Naruto characters, But also way better stamina
Now that's some serious downplay on the warlords speed scaling and some serious wank on the akatsuki spees scaling😂, dude started of good just to end up succumbing to his bias
How is the speed scaling wanked can you explain at all
@@sbthesage2100 none of the akatsuki are ls bruh,not even Obito, until maybe he obtained the rinnegan or the ten tails. And what do you mean by reaction speed isn't equal to attack speed? I've never heard that one before😂if they can perceive and react to ls attacks why can't they attack at that speed too? If they can't then how tf was Rayleigh able to intercept and cut kizaru whilst he was in his light form?? You're just biased man
Bro even said Law was CITY LEVEL 😭
@@daddy8413 😂😂😭
@@sbthesage2100
According to the data books killer bees fastest feat should be near sol, but then you said the same guy intercepted the raikage at 100 times sol.
😂😂😂
I don’t agree with most of this. I think you might have a bias towards naruto tbh. They literally dodged the light beams in sabaody before the time skip (actually jumped over and ran past it) and there’s also characters who’s attacks in one piece who’s attacks are stated to be light speed that most of the warlords scale above. You also used some of the weakest calcs for some warlords AP like Law at city level. It’s your channel and you can say or do whatever you want but I’m just saying I sense some bias and it kinda takes the enjoyment out the video. You also downplayed the hax for the warlords by a LOT.
Debate me ill literally why that’s dumb af bc I already brought it up and explained why it’s a reaction speed feat sorry one piece fans are slow idk how that makes me bias for example I think Fujitora stomps pain and not a single one piece fan would call me bias if I made that video bc they’re character would win so who tf is really bias 💀 niggas genuinely toon hours of my time scaling as best as I could for brain dead ppl like you to say shit like this pls get off my channel lol also weaker calcs ? Those are basically only calcs and anyone you’re probably thinking ab doesn’t even check mathematically
@@sbthesage2100 why not make the pain versus fujitaro video? That would be interesting to see
@@sbthesage2100you’re dumb af & biased. Still rude to commenters for what? Buddy didn’t say anything disrespectful for you to act like that
Right
@@sbthesage2100 didn’t see your comment till now but that was childish and sad. Would’ve definitely debated but you showed your bias and that you’re not worth debating. Didn’t even insult you once.
Also gotta remember that Luffy straight up said that Kaidos attack was too fast to react to even though he called laser beams slow. If that doesn't tell you that they're combating at FTL speeds I don't know what will. Kizaru is literally making his move and I gotta wonder what excuses will be made after this shit.
Thank you!!!!! Like if I can dodge light attacks but someone comes along and hits me than that person just hit me faster than light, like duhhhh. And luffy is able to keep up in speed.
So let me get this straight...
The Verse(One Piece)that has consistent statements for Lightspeed... and not only stating but showing consistent LS speed fts ON PANEL is SOMEHOW supposed to be "Slower" than the verse with questionable statements and very limited on panel LS speed fts???
Somebody fuckin lying
...
Wtf are you even talking ab Moron one light-speed statement does not make every character light speed also I scaled characters in this video to MFTL so I don’t understand this comment in the slightest please use your fucking brain
@@sbthesage2100 @sbthesage2100 No you use YOUR brain. It has been widely known that One Piece as a whole has far more consistent statements and speed feats and that is why in any major debate site the verse majority of the time scaled higher in speed. Obviously not in AP but speed was the concession where as Shounen like Naruto and Bleach lacked the feats and statements to back up said speed(More so bleach). I'm going to need you to get your facts straight.
Back in 2016 and so on I was apart of MVC, OBD(Naruto forums), and Comic Vine. Your scaling is ass trash and disingenuous.
You can't even fathom that there is a general consensus of tier. You think these One Piece fans are mad at nothing? Your video is a joke. There are literally better power scaling UA-camrs who are more genuine about the Meta when it comes to the HST. Even if I'm more so a One Piece debater I don't believe OP can beat Naruto God Tiers Like Naruto or Sasuke (Yet) and that is because of AP.
There is a balance in which you lack and that lack of balance and knowledge makes your take flaming hot garbage juice.... Period.
😂😂 true
Yes so consistent that moving a fraction of the distanceales you faster than the attack? Not how speed works most of the feats are sub rel
@sbthesage2100 see luffy has light speed reaction speed and doffy blized this luffy and he would get faster in later arcs that means doffy was ftl so luffy is mftl
Mihawk isn't confirmed to have conqueror's. Also, the light speed is relevant because Luffy dodged multiple on each side, meaning that he moved his head fast enough in the opposite direction to dodge light, or in your analogy hitting a baseball on your left followed instantly by another on the right.
we all know he has that shit
@@ohblivian Yeah but it's not confirmed
He pretty much has it confirmed but whatever bro also you’re fucking waffling
Slightly moving your head is still reaction speed dummy
If mihawk does not have advanced kings haki then zoro would have already surpassed him and we know that hasn't happened yet. There is a reason that zoro who has trained under him for 2 years put mihawk on a piller above everybody.
Yes. Reacting and calling it slow.
Still don’t get the whole “reaction speed” argument. When Luffy fought Boa Hancock’s sisters, they both had reaction speed much faster than Luffy due to Observation haki. Yet Luffy was still able to blitz them. Even currently in OP, Luffy was able to use futuresight on Kaido yet Kaido still perception blitzed him. Hell even Niji has an attack called “Light Speed Sword” in which Ichiji scales to just for Ichiji to get slammed at point blank by katakuri. In the same arc Oven could perceive Ichiji’s attacks yet Sanji went so fast that he managed to jump in front of Oven from a distance behind him, attack him, and then disappear before Oven could even see who it was.
Yessirrr 🗣️ 🗣️
Jimbie would Beat Kisame no question
Hippity hoppity,your water is my property
@@rishidharu1500 nah
@@rishidharu1500 go try that shit with someone else
@@SCP_096 actually,Jimbei can manipulate water Hippy Hippity 😂Lol
@@rishidharu1500 I’m pretty sure jimbie Has feats bro I’m just finna go back and on something so stupid with a lil ass kid
It baffles me that Naruto speed scaling characters faster than light just accepted by all. But one piece speed scaling well he just reacts to the light beam or aim dodging that's not combat speed. I just don't see why Naruto dodging light fang while having several sensing forms like sage mode and six path abilities plus speed amps but Luffy dodging light beams doesn't make him ftl in combat
I never use the light fang to scale lmao the fang can be TSOL of light but Naruto dodged his neck swing not the attack speed also if you bothered to pay attention dodging something is reaction speed not combat speed
@@sbthesage2100 used it as an example not that you brought it up. Off of this ppl use this to say Naruto is ftl
@@silvertongue.242_99
Naruto is still mftl regardless of that feat
“That negate durability”
>Haki
“Stupid jutsu number 5”
>Haki
“Speed blitz”
>Haki
Anything else ?
Dude, weren't kumas paw attack stated to be light speed, with zoro evading multiple at once during thriller bark
He said he repels air at the light speed and creates a shockwave that dosent necessitate the pad cannons moving at light speed also wouldn’t make sense considering he has literal light beam attack that zoro barley dodges while he’s floating through the pad cannons W profile pic btw
@@sbthesage2100 Zoro under high stakes is light speed movement under normal circumstances he is realistically pre time skip. But if Kuma is repelling the air at light speed the shockwaves wouldn't lose any speed and be moving at light speed as well
@@sbthesage2100cope. Idk why you stay trynna down play one piece speed feats😂 author says “it’s light speed” then it is. That’s how it goes man😂 Author said “luffy can make everyone around him a cartoon” and it happened. This is the life of powerscaling. You don’t get to negate the mangaka’s definitive statements because you disagree. Btw are you black?
@@bnnttjn1 lmaooo this is a non argument you sound dumb
@@sbthesage2100 explain? I mean saying “you sound dumb” does nothing. Explain how im wrong or stfu😂
Tbh i feel like when the day comes for mihawk and blackbeard to show their true power i think that they would be way faster mihawk isnt the strongest swordsman for nothing and knowing how oda does things we would see some big power showcase from mihawk by himself. Which will turn this fight upside down i think that the only way to finish all of these debates about one piece is when it ends that way we would have seen everything about everyones power but good video and an underatted channel at that
Absolutely right 👍
Bro I love both shows and this was a very entertaining video to watch! Love the analysis of both sides also!
Like deadass...you know u cappin...Cuz if Mihawk keep Itachi busy...then the akatski stand no chance....who stopping Boa, Law, and Doffy? Deidra , Hidan, and Kaku are done bruv😂
He just disregarded all the one piece speed feats
@@thetss1938 he has massive bias cause he's capping the warlords at island level which is disingenuous since islands in one piece can be as big as continents in our world like Alabasta which was calculated to be as big as Australia
@@raizelnnim I think Law can handle him
@@raizelnnim check out some of the recent episodes new feats inbound bruv lol...hope ur having a decent day btw 💜
hw is jusr glazing doffy mihawk bb keep obito itachi and pain busy and law negs all the others orangs then it is 3 vs 7 they again keep they distracted law steals the hearts and boa crushes
My god finally someone who said attack power is not destructive power so many say they are the same
Of course, the warlords beat their ass
@@raizelnnim Tell me how
@@raizelnnim I have watched and or read both of them not completely, but enough to where I have a pretty fair grasp on each of the worlds but I really want to hear why you think the akatsuki would beat the warlords
@@raizelnnim Obito is the only akatsuki member I don’t know that much about can you explain his powers for me
@@xadoc1230You wont even take a second to read my comment. Youll see one statement you dont like nd automatically respond. Reason I dont do internet debates. But Naruto is tricky they are ninja i bet you itachi/nagato can singlehandedly defeat all warlords. You read only that and started to reply without reading my whole comment thats how ik you biased. Itachi one shots most of these characters. Too many hax and skills. Plus a master of all natures such as wind,water,earth and fire. Nagato has rinnegan that's enough to solo these characters itachi is a walking hax thats it
@@ke-go7xj one I read your comments. And two this was 10 months ago get over it
Didn't he say mihawk, Blackbeard are at small planet in AP. So the Akatsuki no matter how fast wouldn't be able to win. Especially since he said their durability scale to their AP. So idk how he came to the conclusion the Akatsuki wins in the end
That’s literally just not how that works do you not know what hacks are or something 💀
@@sbthesage2100why bro so mad
@@mizuchi999 how am i mad lmaooo
@@sbthesage2100 yea it does kinda work like that
It's call cap,, the dood is capping 😂😂😂,, mehawk and law will destroy the akatsuki 😂😂
Bro forgot jingle can control water😂 THATS LITERY HIS FIGHTING STYLE
14:26 HUHHHH, Ik reaction and combat is different but if I can perceive and Dodge something meaning I have to MOVE MY BODY in order to do so. Would I not be able to fight in that same speed since I just did in reaction terms though…?
Reactions do not not equal movements 😭 just bc you dodge something dosen't mean you travel or fight at the same speed as the object holy shit also all calcs for fluffy dodging the beams are relativistic not ftl
@@sbthesage2100 that analogy kinda sucks not gone Lie
@@HaxHavok it really did, but I looked into it more online and I guess it kinda makes sense, if you can perceive or know something comking then you can move out of the way. But on the other hand if a person is able to move and fight at the same speed as the thing you had to dodge before hand then you would be inevitably slower
Even oda is making parellesim to tell u it’s light speed. Before time skip kizaru blitzed luffy and said “too slow” fast forward to post time skip a beam that was described as KIZARU’S beams was fired at luffy and guess wat luffy said? He said “too slow” like come on now if u ask the author if luffy could move at light speed at that point I’m sure he would say yes. Sometimes we get so caught up in all this power scaling and science n shit that we forget about wat the author is indirectly yet very clearly trying to tell us 🤦🏽♂️
@@sbthesage2100ALAYE!!!! Agree bro. Ur not trained and ur using urself as an example for trained and expert individuals on combat. Ur mediocre compared to them. Once u can react to somn .. you train urself to counter it my bro. Stop saying dumb shii
Honestly Mihawk and Law are enough to 2vAll the Akatsuki and win because Mihawk is comparable to Shanks (who can attack someone with his Conq haki from several miles away outside a country and pin point your exact location with his observation haki and then rain down Conq haki lightning upon you and OHKO a 3B berri man and his right hand man at the same time). Mihawk also has future sight so he can see every attack thrown at him. Law uses room and can amputate everyone and since Narutoverse doesn't have haki, then Law legitimately one shots them and he can teleport on the same level as the Flying Raijin and the Akatsuki has absolutely 0 answers for that technique and that technique is put on a pedestal in the verse so if Law can just casually teleport around like the 4th hokage then htf does the Akatsuki win? Plus Law can create an attack that can go down all the way into the core of the One Piece world (which is wayyyy bigger than the Naruto world). Then add in Kuma who can simply one tap and send Akatsuki members flying away and Crocodile who can OHKO if he lands a grab and the other Warlords for back up and it is a sweep. Warlords are vastly stronger than the Akatsuki but the Akatsuki are the better team unit though. BTW if you mention Itachi's susano, you guys realize that Mihawk and Law can one tap it and destroy it since they can casually destroy whole mountain ranges since early on into One Piece? Like dude that is Madara susano level of power that they showed when they were just half way through the series and we are in the final saga and they jumped up leaps and bounds in power.
Nope
@@twonony2686 yes.
@@AnimeALX leech hawk at least was made use of something huh?
The only reason Naruto’s creator didn’t put guns in Naruto is bc they wouldn’t be able to outrun bullets how tf they destroy the warlords
What type a bull shit head canon is this one piece charcters get shot with bullets if I’m not mistaken
@@sbthesage2100 yea they can but they can also doge them
Doffy is clearly minimum continental to multi continental. Since Luffy in gear 3rd over power or match a character with continental splitting power
Yes I will make sure to correct myself in the future I’ve seen multi Continental kong guns however the verdict still stands
@@sbthesage2100 ok cool no problem
did bro say lightning was 2x faster than light💀💀, also why are you lowballing one piece speed feats
They have been ftl since og Naruto
@@hassanhassan-os5oq nope cope harder
Honestly I don't see how the warlords lose when law can one shot them all at once
same with obito. he solos the verse
Sugar exist and so does fuji@@dandanyellow
@@dandanyellow lol even charters like smoker an sabotage neg him
Akatsuki are getting their backs blown out 😂
8:44-8:54 as a One Piece fan, I would’ve NEVER thought of this
Mihawk is soloing the entire akatsuki pretty easily. Law and doflamingo together would also easily destroy them. Few of the akatsuki or Naruto characters in general are Ben mountain level and we see law casually destroy a mountain range and law and doggy both casually destroyed a fujitora meteor that was moving faster than madras’s meteor. It’s the seven warlords and it’s not even close….damn I forgot kuma is also probably casually beating them bc he can move ftl casually as well and outclasses all of them with simple speed
You're right.
I think if he didnt use the Warlords from when they first joined it would be totally different bc he used Alabasta Crocodile and not Marineford or Cross Guild Croc and he used BB with only the darkness fruit and not the Quake.
@@crazyelementalguy9649 they’re still losing. Like I said, Mihawk solos. Doffy and Law also beat them pretty soundly. He says that fresh off of training post time skip gear second luffy is only reacting to light and it doesn’t mean that he can actually move at light speed. Not only is that wrong on the surface, but he’s wrong within his own example. You can see once he gets the laser shot at him, he goes into gear second then speed blitzes the pacifista before the laser even gets to where he was standing. Doflamingo and law both scale to this speed at bare minimum. (Not to mention that law can teleport without having to rely on throwing a kunai first like the 4th hokage, who has been shown to speed blitz even obito. So technically Law can teleport faster and at a greater variety of angles)Also again there is a massive AP gap. The akatsuki are losing baddddd.
@@madisonbordenave4869 Yeah trust me im on the Warlords side for sure but what im saying is i think this was the reason why he made the Warlords lose, and i also dont agree with the speed calcs he stated bc i believe Mihawk should be faster.
And madara claps warlords
Sanji before his awakening was routinely dodging laster beams from Queen all of Onigashima, OP even has light speed feats pre timeskip, you accept the naruto light speed feats but completely ignore the OP ones?? Be soo fr
You can debate my on anything in this video and I’ll debunk any pre timeskip light speed feats just pull up to the server discord.gg/pandemonia
In case anyone is wondering, there's a youtuber who calced the sizes of both the One Piece and Naruto worlds.
His name is DcDoesPhysics.
According to his calcs, the One Piece world is about 37 times bigger than Earth, and the Naruto world is 6 times bigger than Earth.
and bro was saying the warlords are city level LMFAO
@@krqstairhe has a clear bias on his assessment
@@raizelnnim that’s not remotely true. you must get tired riding as often as you do
@@krqstairthey’re no matter how big a planet is which isn’t even confirmed. A country level feat would still be country level
@@youngfish1370 not really. If planet a is bigger than planet b. That means the islands and stuff on planet a would be bigger than planet b.
What’s the fastest move in naruto because I don’t see any characters doing anything crazy with speed feats besides Minatos teleportation raikage and Naruto dodging the light attack from madara
Yeah, I'm wondering where the 118x FTL calc came from.
haku literally moves at light speed and naruto with a lil kyuubi chakra can track and punch him. Btw haku isn’t a jounin level threat and kakashi thought they could handle him. Madaras attack was instantaneous not light speed
@@xfrederic564same haku that as Edo tense blitz war arc kakashi who scale to Kcm in speed as shown in jinjuriki vs jinjuriki fight
@@lukaskrivda9374 kcm is def aviv kakashi in speed even in base form naruto mostly outruns him to somewhere
@@MrMegaSuperDuperMethe calc is in the description
i dont think this guy is right abt the speed, there are other videos in further detail talking abt speed and luffy had 900x the speed of light and we know shanks upscales from that and mihawk is relative or if not faster than him
So I’m not right bc someone else is makes sense and no there isint all Luffy speed scales are calc stacking off reaction speed feats
@@sbthesage2100 I’ve seen many different scales, and them ones seem legit, so I’m not trying t be rude or nothing but I like the other scales more
@@sbthesage2100Your scaling isn’t common knowledge like other One Piece/Naruto scalers so why would it make sense for us to believe your flawed scaling is correct?
@@datboichris5746 wtf are you talking ab what ab the scaling id flawed lmao
@@sbthesage2100you’re scaling some of the warlords to city or small island but in the one piece world these islands can span the length of continents. A major downplay in power and I have a question if you’re allowing Blackbeard to nullify jutsu then Blackbeard should be able to pull them in with that case.
So what about chinjao. He is able to split an ice continent with one attack and doffy should masively scale above that. 4th gear luffy is at 30x multiplier from sai, who has the same feat as chinjao
That feat has never been calced to be Continental and that is prime chinjao lol
So if he didn't split a continent then what did he split? and let's not forget the ice isn't normal ice either.
"The One Piece world is 9x larger than our sun"
I looked up that post and was reminded that I can't do math, but I'm running with that as canon now
Khonan loses to boa with out prep time
Itachi beats law edo itachi
Kisame loses to Jimbe
Sasori can use the fruit or abilatys of any one in his stringes
Diedara beats crocodile because dust bombs are smaller then sand
Kakazu loses to kuma
Hidan loses to buggy
Orochimaru beats weival
Pain beats black beard
Obito solos me hawk
i dont think anyone can reason with this man... he will die on that hill
Wdym reason debate me on whatever you have gripes with discord.gg/pandemonia if I’m wrong ab anything prove it
@@sbthesage2100 explain how if someone has a set destructive capacity that they can also tank it or the other way round (i dont use discord) like Dedara cant tank his strongest attack
@@Mazdha if you don’t have discord idc what you have to say make one and we can actually debate
I think the outcome of a team battle between both organizations would be very difficult to predict for several reasons:
1. The lack of information of both sides about each other powers. It doesnt matter how strong a character is if it faces an opponent that he doesnt know what its capable of or the nature of its powers. For example if Akatsuki doesnt know Law can steal their hearts or switch their bodies, how will they counter that?
2. The lack of teamwork between the different members of each organization. The strongest abilities or attacks of some of the members of each side may hurt or even kill its own teammates.
3. Compatibility between its opponents. A member of the Akatsuki may be strong against one member of the Shichibukai but weak against another one so the outcome would be mainly determined by who he fights first.
4. Numerical superiority. There is the possibility of two members of an organization working together to overwhelm a single foe of the other team.
PD: I think you are underestimating Jimbei too much
“Law is our last city level, cutting through a mountain….” And a man covered in adamant haki, with the mountain in a single strike, which is magnitudes stronger than a man made of solid steel(Alabaster arc). Legit. One Piece low baller. Go chug more narucum.
I linked the calc in the description it was a city level attack also it’s arguable that’s not even how strong is bc he used hacks to cut the mountain
@@sbthesage2100 You still chose to ignore that the same cut also cut a human coated in Adamant haki(that disables fruit hax, and laws hax doesn’t even have close to mountain range, or was even turned on at that time even lmfao), which is way tougher then city, when a buggy ball from the first few episodes is at least large town, and buggy tanked it with no damage, no haki and literally the first few episodes. Want more Narucum? You still have some on your shirt but I’m sure the orange man will give ya another serving.
I love one piece but I find it super difficult to see how white beard is small planet lvl. Feats over statements ex: 9tails is stated to have the power to turn the world to ash that doesn’t scale the 9tails to planet lvl same thing with white beard.
You’re just making claims with 0 evidence
@@sbthesage2100 its in a data book and u dint mention Black beards other df the gura gura no mi u are 100% baised
@@Mazdha except I 100% specified it was black beard as a warlord you’re. Clearly the one who’s bias but we can debate ab it if you want discord.gg/pandemonia
I'm a one piece fan but the Akstsuki clearly win.
That said, did you seriously start off by saying freaking Sasori scales to island level?
Bro most of the Akatsuki gets dog walked by Mihawk. Add Kuma in and they have 0 defense from the Paw Paw fruit since they have no haki.
Yes he does maybe you just don’t understand why
Key word most
@@sbthesage2100
Yes I understand. You're equating "they captured a jinjuuriki' to "they can tank and thus deal as much damage as a bijuu bomb"
@@OtakuJuanma2 that's not what I said at all tard. I said his iron sand is considered an stronger weapon than shukaku who is island level
You lowballed the hell out of the warlords especially crocodiles who is probably the third strongest one
This man cannot scale. Right outcome but can’t scale
So debate me on my scaling 😂 discord.gg/yWc5DYF8
Bro smoking to say only black beard and miHawk would survive
luffy been moving light speed since snake man.
The speed lowball is crazy boa and kuma are fast asf
no offense, i can tell you put lots of time and effort into these videos and ur consistent, but u always downplay the one piece verse in your naruto vs one piece videos, in many of these machups, the one piece verse clearly takes the win.
Great video
mihawk is not a confirmed user of conqueror's haki, so you can't say in this video that he has it.
This channel is pretty underrated
nope its a naruto d riding chnnel
@@davidnkencho-osegi9394 please don't tell me you think the warlords win this
Bro if the one piece world is 9x larger than our sun it would be a star. No question something is up.
Fire vid one ocean sovereignty with divine departure mixed into one attack would thrash the yonko i think admirals vs kage would be better or warlords
Broj love your vids , new subscriber here and an op fan , mihawk upskales from shanks right , if you agree, doffy scales to gear 4 Luffy right ? , And law I don't need to say who he scales to coz imo his hax just gives him a very high advantage, I think law , doffy and mihawk would be enough, the only problem will be Itachi
op characters made out of light..
him: make room for my akatsuki
Lower Members - Pain
SBtheSage's logic...😅😅😅
good video
Mihawk vs obito is the Real debete here
Obito 6 path
All I am going to say is pre time skip Luffy is massively faster than light cuz he was able to throw a punch faster than Enel in awaken form which is as fast as light base form and when you awaken it you get multipliers to everything so he would be even faster than light but Luffy with a big ass gold ball on his hand was able to out speed him.
I thought u were sense until i saw your pfp my bad.. Btw law one shots 💀
Why does my profile picture matter exactly ?
@@sbthesage2100 guess that on your own 🥱
@@Im_sensai if you’re implying I’m bias that’s just pure stupidity on your parts there’s more videos talking about one piece than Naruto on this channel as well as several videos where I have one piece characters/ groups winning lol
Nah that's a meat rider is crazy. Jinbe lives in the water. he fights in the water. And when he is in the water gets stronger and he manipulate water. like any other fishman this is crazy if your doing a vs battle please do it right.
Literally never said jimbe loses to water you must actually be fucking stupid to think when I say most of the warlords that I’m not referencing ones with devil fruit powers. Also if you’re gonna comment make sure you don’t sound fucking retarted pls 😂
Then why does jimbe die so quickly
@@zaedenstewart2497 What are you talking about?
Kuma alone would speed blitz all them 😂
I've read most of the comments in this comment section and honestly I agree 95% of them.
Bruh the speed math ain't mathing 😂. Just overrating Naruto and degrading op
So who win? I didn’t watch full ep
Tl;dr - The Akatsuki win because of speed and hax.
@@limbo9993there’s absolutely no way anyone in the aktuskii has better speed feats then one piece characters, there’s people in one piece casually dodging light it self
@@Simon_256this video was so biased 💀
@@Simon_256 i can casually dodge a car from a distance. Doesn't mean im faster than the car or that much faster
@@theonetrueedgelord3596The difference is. That One Piece characters are dodging and reacting to light speed attacks at POINT BLANK RANGE!
Also Luffy is blitzing Foxy who can react to his own photons
if they fight in Naruto verse most likely Akatsuki wins ,
IF they fight in OP verse no doubt Warlords wins,
remember guys only real water hates evolved beings with DF but not some water made up of chakra,
Kisame is not nullifying any DF users!
Water jutsu is real water wtf 💀 all chakra based jutsu make real elements do you have some sort of basis on why chakra elements aren’t real ?
@@sbthesage2100 even if that is real, the question is if it will weaken the DF users or not?
Since they are from an entirely different universe and why water from OP universe
weakens the df users is a whole new story,
Why would you want to argue over such an stupid attempt of comparing two different anime verses?
You almost looked stupid even though i watched the whole video out of curiosity 😀
Yo what about Shanks Vs Mihawk or Oden vs Zoro.
9:05 hold did you mention doffy has conquerors, observation and armament
I people are talking about power scaling, but what’s going on with the audio, I’m watch this on my tv, an I don’t know whether to raise the volume or lower because it keeps changing lol
It’s like it’s in flux
there is absolutely no way the OP world is 9 times larger than our sun. it's roughly 4 times larger than our earth, only. idk what kind of math you did, mostly likey meth. if OP world was 9 times the size of the sun, it would take Luffy years of straight sailing just to get to the red line from reverse mountain.
Akatsuki turns to stone. End of fight
The wb world calc is all FAX🗣️🗣️🗣️
Naruto universe - I have the power of repulsion and attraction so I can create a mini celestial body.
One piece universe - I have a sword so I can cut through a mountain with more force than a nuclear weapon.
I gotta ask why is croc city level to you?
Bc he had city level feats ?
@@sbthesage2100 but he has a country level feat
@@Cipher15DC where lmao ?
@@Cipher15DC what calc ?
@sbthesage2100 remember all of alabasta was a dry desert
STOP SHOWING UR GODAM PROFILE PIC ON THE SCREEN no offense...
Ill be honest, i didnt think about Kisame just water blitzing all the devil fruit users.
i feel like light speed is an overexagguration cuz no way SASORI is moving at the speed of LIGHT
Idk man everytime u do a one piece video it seems like a EXTREME lowball there’s no way Itachi and Kisame are faster then Mihawk and BB. When they scale beyond post ts Luffy who dodged light this Luffy is complete fodder trash in speed compared to Mihawk and BB
The pacifesta laser is confirmed to be Kizaru’s too we also see Zoro dodging light against kuma I don’t get how Itachi is basically soloing the warlords let’s not forget the massive AP difference Mihawk ,BB and even Doffy are multi Continental range while the Akatsuki are large country at best .
You keep saying dodge like I didn’t explain why dodging dosent equate to combat speed also do you not understand that hacks can make up for AP and that I scaled the Akatsuki higher in speed like the cope on your part is insane I can debate you on any refutations you have with the scale and debunk any cancer light speed calc stacking for the straw hats
@@sbthesage2100 first off chill you’re spazzing like a 12 year old .
Your speed argument make no sense when we see Luffy fight Kaido and try to use haki but got blitzed the same Luffy who dodged light we later see him fight Kaido and react to him he definitely has light speed combat the warlords should scale . Let’s not forget Blackbeard and Ace fighting when black beard said light can’t even escape his darkness and Ace was still able to fight him and Kizaru fighting characters like Marco who’s far slower then most of the warlords . I don’t agree with Akatsuki having light speed combat at all .
And yes hax can bypass a AP difference but not when it’s Country vs Multi Continental - planet lvl that argument makes no sense when the warlords are already faster and have better AP . There’s a reason why ppl in the comments don’t agree with your one piece scaling .
Pain is one of the slower Akatsuki members?☠️
It can say a won or tied but other and other groups have their respective advantages it can be assumed the warlords will win with a hard fight
Sasori was never compared to darui. You say killer bee is 117×ftl when Naruto isn't even near that.
You say itachi speed blitz when his fastest attack which is seemingly impossible to dodge is lightning speed.
You say Luffy vs doffys clash was only island level when laws clash with fujitaros meteor alone was island level
You are so biased
U seem to always forget that pre ts zoro can dodge light as shown and said by kuma where his paws are flying at lightspeed which u did show a clip on.
the akatsuki downplay is hard they upscale from haku who is light speed going all out
1) Buggy > Luffy G2 ID > Rob Gucchi > Enel > Conti+ > Nora > Croc Alabasta Arc > Control of all the sand in Alabasta = Low Conti
2) The number of Uta fans is 87990000000000 living beings. So, that's more than 10000 times the current population of Earth. If you do a proportion with the surface area of the planet, it should be 5101000000000 km^2, and a radius of about 637000 km, which is a little less than the radius of the Sun. So the planet (well, or it's a huge Dyson sphere or something) should be the size of a star, even if only Uta fans are considered.
3)The water in One Piece is a living thing that does not allow users of the devil fruit to swim.
4)And also the shadow in the One Piece world is the other half of every creature's soul. If you are without a part of this soul under the sun, you will be erased from existence.
5)Shadows of Moria was able to cross 1/4 of the entire Grand Line in a blink of an eye. Even the weakest characters in the arc were able to react and catch the shadows. If I only count OP characters achievements then they will have 1000+ FTL and large planets starting with admirals easily through doriki. If I only count Naruto/Boruto character achievements they will have sub-relativistic speed and large planets at max.
One Piece characters simply have more feats.
ill debate you on this bro
Send your discord tag
In any case naruto verse needs to weave hand signs 😂😂😂
That much opening is Enough for one piece charecters like mihawk and law 😂😂. Warlords will win instantly😂😂.
The OPs replies to anyone who disagrees with him by throwing insults such as "moron" or "slow", even if the comment that disagree with him was respectful or cordial. L childish behavior.
great vid honestly keep up the good work
The damage tylearn has done
Bro is mad biased💀
9:54 satellite dawg it’s a satellite 👀
Speed means nothing if they can’t move because of Doffy’s strings
Where did you see that Mihawk has all 3 types of haki and their advanced form? You making stuff up now? XD
Itachi can just cast a genjutsu or tyukiomi
Genjutsu only works on characters with chakra
you made this video without thinking about the comments you'll get 💀💀
this was some goofy as scaling at the end. just completely downplayed all the lightspeed feats in one piece and ignored the extreme power gap between both sides just to give the akatsuki the win.