yeah watching all these cut content videos makes me a little sad, like if they had either more dev time, or the game was simply made in a time where we had better hardware for consoles we coulda seen a game even better than what new vegas came out to be, and that is something that is insane seeing the miracle they did with new vegas to not only make it a complete game, but honestly one of the best games of the 2010s
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 New Vegas has an enormous amount of cut content compared to most games. Every game has cut content, New Vegas has enough cut content to make an entire new game.
I agree, but its worth adding that given the modding/dev tools we have available we are getting a closer look at something that many games also have to cut. I think it was one of the NV devs that said there's a balance to be struck between creating and producing a game.
These are the original creators of fallout. They had stuff brewing in their minds well before BethSoft gave them the green light to work on *their OWN game*. A year and a half is unheard of for a full game 'dev window', I dont care who you are.
@@Grimpy970 yup. No doubt. I'm sure alot of these ideas are resurfaced from back in the day. I love these videos. Gives you an entirely new perspective on how much effort and work could potentially be set onto a game.
If you watch the intro to new vegas, you’ll notice that the strip was longer, one coherent area, and had a 4 lane road with a sidewalk median. The Strip was originally intended to he much larger. But New Vegas overall was made incredibly smaller than the final product. Primarily due to time constraints and limitations of the engine and hardware. Unfortunately we never got to see the full version of New Vegas which would of been much more expansive and probably significantly more enjoyable.
I like how some of the characters in the game are prasing the beauty of the Strip and when they ask you what you think about it I'm alway like "yeah it's ok I guess" kind of answer. Mr. House got kind of pissed when I didn't praise the Strip. He called me simple minded or something like that :D I guess he doesn't know about the cut content yet.
An additional cut piece from Primm: Hayes says in his dialogue he has a “squad of rangers standing by” who are supposed to guard the town, but they aren’t rangers. They’re just troopers. I think the original concept was for them to be rangers, but for balance sake they made them troopers.
"Changed rangers in primm to troopers for balancing". in a game where there are endless number of Cazadors and Deathclaws just north of Goodspring Graveyard, which is the first place most of the players would went to
@@hannibalburgers477 That's meant to act as an artificial barrier. Not to mention, Deathclaws and Cazadores don't give you higher levels weapons. Rangers do. Hence why it makes more sense for them to be troopers who carry crappy service rifles.
@@hamstersplural4334 I am playing my forth run in New Vegas this month, and trust me. If someone can defeat bunch of heavily geared NCR Rangers early game, they sure as hell deserve the loot. Edit: Also one of the few places players could go (or had to go depending on the way you played) before going to Primm is NCR Mojave Outpost, a place that already has many troops and few NCR rangers. Edit2: Also in no point of the first act of the game, quests forces you to deal with NCR troops in primm. You can attack and defeat them, as that is an option in many quests of New Vegas, but there is no quest that tells you to directly get rid of the troops.
@@hannibalburgers477 The Mojave outpost has no rangers. There is Ranger Ghost, who has a cowboy repeater and the crappy ranger armor. The closest spot to Good Springs with actual rangers are the Ranger Stations. I'm not sure why one small comment about balancing has turned into an entire debate. But whatever, you do you.
@@hamstersplural4334 There are at least 2 rangers because I just killed them. Edit: Ranger Jackson, and ghost Edit2: Because I got nothing better to do any I am bored
Mulder: we're all living in a simulation.....and the games we play are playing us back...... Scully: pfft that's preposterous...... Mulder: is it though? 😈
I lived in Vegas when this game came out I remember kids at my school bragging about how they found "their house" in game Really we would just find the closest building to the approximate spot in-game I found mine using mount charleston and the highways as reference
With all this cut content showed, someone should really make the Ultimate New Vegas Strip restoration mod, with its missing areas and its interior cells placed how they were supposed to be. I'd defintely download such a mod
Fuck I’d pay for that mod. With all the work it would take and how amazing it would be, it sounds like it would have been worth the money. Even a mod where someone fleshed out the game and brought back some of the assets and ideas that got cut livening up some of the quieter and less worthwhile areas would be amazing.
A major issue with this is that the engine itself is laughably unstable and starts to creak under its own weight if you get too ambitious with how much stuff you wanna throw in a cell, there's not really any workaround for that
I hope someone would take the time to make a mod that restore a lot of the cut content, but I guess no one wants to mess with the engine, I still have hope after seeing that a stalker mod is literally a new game with a updated engine by the modders tho.
@@oliverato exactly. the engine just isn't worth messing with for something like this. the best you can hope for is someone makes it for FO4: NV whenever that gets released.
I remember thinking to my self how strange it was that Caesars Palace wasn't a location in New Vegas despite the fact that one of the main factions was modeled on the Roman Legions. There could have been an entire quest line around the Legion trying to take control of it for symbolic reasons.
Bethesda literally cut Obsidian's development time because they saw the game was looking fucking awesome, and they had a deal that they would pay them a lot if the game had a score over 9. So they rushed Obsidian to finish the game as fast as possible, hoping it would be buggy and unfinished, with the critics giving New Vegas worse scores than It deserved as a result. And then Bethesda had an excuse to not pay Obsidian all the royalties they deserved, almost sending them to bankrupt. Yeah, fuck Bethesda.
@@HannibalKantter That's a damn lie, the publishing team for Obisidian agreed with that time from the very beginning so they are the ones to blame. You can see the interviews of Obisidian members talking about the deal and how it went down here on UA-cam, plus Bethesda-Obisidian relations during development, and what you're saying is quite literally flatout bogus. This is why FNV fans have a bad name, shit like this.
I've always loved glitching out of New Vegas playable area, and just exploring the vast emptiness, unfortunately the map is so incredibly massive that I've only explore around the area of the long 15, and passed quarry junction, so next time I play I'm definitely going to be looking at these new locations.
Honestly if they took fallout nv and rebuilt the game to include almost all ideas, cut content, post content, and everything in between then resold fallout new vegas as a new standalone game for retail price, I wouldn't complain one bit. Imagine westside being the way it was envisioned and the map being as sprawling and hardcore as intended.
I wanna say the strip was supposed to be one great big cell. That’s now totally possible considering the Xbox series x n stuff. I honestly wouldn’t complain if it looked half as good as f4
It seems that the courier never technically completed their contract. You were supposed to bring payment to Johnson Nash or be forced to contend with mercenaries/reclamation teams but in most cases you forget about it as soon as Act II starts. I suspect this was planned at some point but abandoned due to time constraints. Got anything on this TriangleCity?
@@ben.patrick Nope. Because you survived. There's also a whole dialogue tree about recovering the package when you talk to Johnson Nash in Primm. "CONTRACT PENALTIES You are an authorized agent of the Mojave Express Package until delivery is complete and payment has been processed, contractually obligated to complete this transaction and materially responsible for any malfeasance or loss. Failure to deliver the proper recipient may result in forfeiture of your advance and bonus, criminal charges, and/or pursuit by mercenary reclamation teams. The Mojave Express is not responsible for any injury or loss of life you experience as a result of said reclamation efforts." Edit: Failure to deliver includes getting shot in the head. The responsibility is on you until the package is delivered and payment is brought to Johnson Nash. Maybe I should've included the instructions as well with the contract penalties. At best this is a defense of your current circumstances. Courier is a high-risk high-reward profession.
To further elaborate: Benny is a third party. So him shooting you in the head does not void your contractual obligations to Mr. House and the Mojave Express. At best being shot is a defense for the courier's obvious breach of contract for failure to deliver.
@@E1_DE3 a know what you mean, maybe they planned certain dialog with Nash about it but cut it. Now in the Vanilla Version ( if i call it that after seing the cut Content XD ) Nash isn't angry about it or sued you for it. He was more like fuck it, i have bigger problems than that.
@@noobikus5475 Could be! One benefit the Courier has is that if they're talking to Johnson Nash, usually you're making the effort to retrieve it and that's a defensible enough reason. And he's got more pressing issues at the moment (seeing as Daniel Wyand is literally a corpse outside the Mojave Express). There's supposedly a main office back in New California, but we never interact with them so we have no way of knowing how they would react to receiving this information. From a gameplay and development standpoint it makes sense why they might not prioritize this. Most people I talk to don't even read the contract so I'm not surprised that most people didn't notice this detail.
My head-canon is that the southern and western gates were there like a decade before for advertising the strip, but maybe due to fiend attacks they were walled up. Same with the outer buildings being ruins now
the hobo language was probably recycled into the shadow signs in skyrim, just way less cool. in skyrim they had a rare book that told you the sign meanings but other than that you just memorize them
Imagine a full redux with a 1:1 scale map. Allowing for the density of New Vegas to be contrasted by desolate stretches of empty desert. The New Vegas we got was and still is tremendous, but for me it was just a taste of the full potential this setting has. New Vegas as we saw it in the comics and concept art was humongous and seeing it implemented in a redux (hopefully with the option to have the classic janky combat we all know and love) is a hope of mine for the future. Btw I love the channel, it really brings to light many aspects of NV I didn't know about. I'm still discovering new things in my current play through.
The road the Courier walks in New Vegas is about 120 miles long. Imagine walking 120 in-game miles. I think a remaster of that caliber would need a Chrysalis Highwayman.
@sierrahs.2306 Not exactly 1 to 1, but still exponentially larger. Any large building can be seen from nearly anywhere on the map because the scaling was too small. Hell, quarry junction, a location that is a tiny speck on a real life map, takes up a few persentages of the map, which makes no sense whatsoever.
It’s such a shame some ofthese areas got cut. Primm, the fiends territory outside the base, The Strip always felt a little off, like they were supposed to be bigger and more alive. The changes to scale in the strip really burns. Plus primm is so useless for such a large settled area
I always saw the NV Medical Clinic's logo and thought doctor (maybe I am a hobo), and it makes me sad that there could've been an entire series of signals observant players could have used to get immersed in the world. I get the feeling these might have been recycled into the shadowmarks from Skyrim though, and you can find an entire book on what they mean in the Thieves Guild's inner sanctum.
@@soapdish124 well in game house mentions that he crashed multiple times and had to go back multiple os so during this time vegas probably fell and went to shit during the events of fo1. I think house woke up after fo2 when the ncr got close, and he could only secure the strip and the rest of vegas went to shit. But at least north vegas has abunch of standing buildings
Even if Las Vegas wasn't directly hit by nukes, the rest of the United States would have collapsed, and much of Las Vegas would be destroyed in the chaos.
i think it makes alot of sense. Since vegas wasnt hit alot of the population would have freaked out and possible opened or engaged in diplomacy with near vaults. Settlements much like fallout 4 would have been founded and get completely fucked by war and shit with raiders. So the makeshift fence kind of works because house was basically unconscious due to the lack of power and a reliable os
as someone who's familiar with them, the hobo language being cut is really heartbreaking for me because of the lost worldbuilding/environmental storytelling potential. it would've been awesome to see them drawn on random npc houses and whatnot - imagine trying to find out who sold boone's wife to the legion and seeing the "dishonest person lives here" marking on jeannie may crawfords house? even if you don't know what it means, you'd feel like there's something worth checking out.
I'm always conflicted when I watch these episodes, the amount of research and the quality of the videos are top notch. The fact so much was cut from the game is really sad.
The wall of rocks i mentioned actually made it in! I was beginning to wonder if I'd hallucinated that. Still watching all of these with childish awe. Also note: i think i now understand why the randomizer mod makes nights (and days a lot of the time) really fucking dark. Funny to think that that mod technically restores a ton of cut content, even if it is mostly fallout 3 assets.
the west gate for the strip would make sense since when you noclip out of bounds in the area where its meant to be (near Micheal Angelo's) there is a road that runs right up to the wall where that gate would be.
@@aceskeletonne7446 Though if I were to remake this game, I would made those gates a thing but bump up the price (From 2K caps to 5K) and bump up the sercurity
I started playing this in 2012, I know the question ain't for me though here's my thoughts I think I was dammn reminds of Actual vegas from then on I always call it New Vegas instead of Las Vegas lol
One place I wish they'd been able to include is Area 51. It's very close to Nellis, and would have been well within the empty space on the edge of the map.
Would be amazing if a group of modders banded together to restore as much content as reasonably possible in an "all-in-one" overhaul mod. Technology is far removed compared to when the game originally released that I'm sure major changes could be made without tanking performance too much. One can only hope.
That's not the case sadly. The engine is still built for 2010 hardware at the end of the day. I've got a few mods that does stuff like open up Freeside and the Strip and perfomance is notably worse even on a modern machine.
@@hyhy5083 Ah, that's a shame. So major changes to the game's engine would have to be made to make these larger cut content to work? Wonder if it would be possible to optimize some of these to at least be passable.
@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish Exactly, a major rework of the engine, or an entirely new one would be needed. Which is of course quite a tall order for amateur modders/programmers. But there is dim light at the end of the tunnel. There's a project called OpenMW, which is a project that seeks to recreate Morrowind in an opensource engine. There has been some talk about adapting the project into an opensource fallout 3/New vegas clone down the line. Which would theoritcally allow for a complete fan remake of New Vegas. But we're probably years off such a thing.
@@hyhy5083 I've never heard of OpenMW; the fact that modders are going far enough to attempt a project like that is exciting to hear. Reminds me of the people trying to remake New Vegas in Fallout 4's engine. Maybe they could work on returning cut content while they're at it? A tall order for sure, but one can hope.
You wouldn't necessarily need a new engine to make open areas with decent performance, l believe one of the main reasons Freeside and The Strip Open run badly is because of badly optimised meshes. If you fix them, you can see quite a drastic performance improvement.
yeah or the dlc takes you out to certain locations. my list for dlc add ons. Area 51, Mount zion national park because thats a golden choice they made already. new reno areas could've pushed to kingman and bullhead city, lake havasu, sedona theres a lot of real life amazing things to add into the lore. like ufos in sedona havasu has the real london bridge. i never made it to bullhead city so i dont know it much
I just re-bought FNV thanks to your videos. I got it last weekend and have already logged like 25 hours between two weekends of play lol. It was such a masterpiece, I loved it in 2011 and I love it in 2021.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg i wouldnt dare pirating such a game like New Vegas. the passion that went into it and given the resources that Obsidian was given - its a beautiful work of art. maybe dont pirate shit?
I feel because of the engine they had to abandon a lot of their ambitions. If there was more development and a better engine this game would have been untouchable in terms of sales and the possibilities of what you could do in game. If they were to remake the game with all of their ambitions and resell it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. However for now we can only look at it and be interested in what could of been.
The engine is awful and definitely hampered development, but the limitations of available content were almost entirely because of the PS3's lack of available memory. As far as development time goes, it's been stated that Bethesda implemented the deadline, but it's also been stated that Obsidian themselves implemented the 18 month deadline because they were on the brink of bankruptcy and wanted to push the game out earlier to recoup money spent on development.
The building in primm is accessable. It took my 5 straight hours but basically you gonna stack barrels on the table outside of it and parkour flawlessly to get inside it. The couch thats inside cant be sit on.
Another great video. Funny enough, I was literally looking at that early map this morning. I could have sworn you had a Followers of the Apocalypse video. Hopefully we get that at some point. I heard they were supposedly going to be an ending faction at some point.
Remember that on June 26 2021, the pentagon is supposed to release a comprehensive public report detailing everything they know about ufos. They want us to forget.
@Lutheran Crusader absolutely real. The covid relief bill included a mandate ordering that the pentagon (within 6 months) release a public report detailing what they know about the ufo phenomenon. That deadline is here.
It's a shame a jail system was cut. I can see memes out of it like Oblivion where if you steal something in the Strip, an MP comes over and is like "HEY, HEY STOP RIGHT THERE! You're caught red-handed you thief. Look, your coming with me to the Embassy, or you can pay an fine of 250 Caps. Run and I'm gonna put you on a warrant." > [Follow the MP Officer] "Easy now, no sudden movements." You wait 3 days in the cells at the Strip Embassy. Your belonings are given back to you and stolen goods are retracted. > [Pay your Fine of 250] Successful "Alright, your free to go. Any more trouble and I'm taking you in." Fail - Poor "No money huh? Of course, probably blew it it all on the strip. Follow me, no sudden movements." Same as complying, 3 days in a cell. > [ATTACK] Your not taking me alive! "Not complying huh? Well, time to issue some police brutality!" > Infamy Gained - NCR, Strip > [Escape] "HEY, GET BACK HERE!" Infamy Gain - NCR, Strip > [Bachelor / Lady Killer] Is there something wrong officer? You seem stunned. "W-well, ugh. I'm letting this slide. I'm not gonna be so friendly next time." > [Legion / Low Reputation] [Spotted] "I know you, your in the NCR blacklist. I'm taking you in, dead or alive!" > [NCR] Officer, I'm sorry about this. "Oh, your that courior who's been doing all those deeds for the NCR. I'll let this slide for now because your on good terms but next time, I gotta take you in. I'm sorry, it's my job." > [Speech 75] "Is there a way to work something out?" Sucessful "Fine, we can just because I'm in a good mood. 150 Caps and give the item back." >[Speech 100] You sure? "Fine, just 100 Caps. I'm not suppose to be doing this, I can get into serious trouble." > Failure "No." > [Sneak 75] [Open for search] I didn't steal anything. See? Sucessful "I swear I...I'm sorry then Sir. Have a nice day." Failure "Oh you fucking rat, don't talk your way out of this. That's it, I'm taking you in, no ifs or buts about it, now shut up and get infront of me, hands behind your head."
The amount of work you've done so far is fascinating. Keep it up and best of luck! I truly wish someone could compile all of this content and make an ultimate mode restoring what's possible.
Perhaps one content that bugs me the most is entrance behind welcoming sign. It is because it seems that it would be relatively easy to implement, it would make going to Strip less of a chore and damn, it would just fit so well...
When your finished with this series what do you plan to do next? If it was me I’d hire a team of modders and try to finish the game. From the looks of things it needs probably 10-15 more location, probably 50-80 more quests, a bigger strip, thousands of lines of dialogue, more weapons and armor, and that’s it. The devs got what they got in 18 months but any modder that tries to do this would have to dedicate years of their life to finish this. Of course if you do then people will be praising you for years so it’s not a bad trade. Who knows,, maybe Bethesda might buy your mod for millions and sell it as an official remaster
Actually I miscalculated. Maybe 40-60 more quests involving the brotherhood, powder gangers, great khans, the strip and its families, the legion and a few ncr quests. And it won’t take a lot to do it. Probably 2-3 years
Man, the dream would be a full remaster WITH cut content. Unfortunately, a lot of the voice actors are no longer with us. So even if they could Implement stuff like post-game content and new areas, I imagine it would be kind of hard to get Caesar or House to Mention it . 🎩 🐍 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k agreed. Bethesda needs to bite the bullet and scrap their ragged ass engine that has been out of date for well over a decade.
There is a cell called "5 winds" which is a mountaintop with a little path leading up to it and some rocks. The area around it is a huge mountain blocked by invisible walls. It is located south of Primm Pass
I have a suspicion that the "bomb crater" at 7:16 is the original Devil's Throat. The real-life equivalent is on the eastern side of Lake Mead, a bit northeast of the accessible one in-game, so maybe it was moved to its current location after they scaled back the Legion content? EDIT: Checked it in-game myself, location checks out. I think it was moved.
@@dannyway1111 Way after? It was two months after Lonesome Road. Not to mention Skyrim began development before New Vegas. Also, here's the real kicker: These markings were cut. I doubt Bethesda ever knew they existed in the first place. They would have needed to root around in the game files, and it's extremely unlikely they felt the need to do such a thing.
@@CrimsonKnight77 Skyrim came out a full year after fnv. The markings were a base game idea, so how is lonesome Road relevant. Your point was "there's no way the railroad system copied fnv's hobo system because skyrim did the same thing" but skyrim came out a full year after fnv released. So I'm not sure what your point is. Like I already said, I don't think they did. I was just pointing out the flaw in your argument
@@dannyway1111 My point was that Obsidian stopped working on New Vegas completely only two months before Skyrim came out. That's not even my main point. Why don't you address my point over the signs being cut? Bethesda are highly unlikely to know they existed.
The 6:10 map seems to be the real topography of Las Vegas, with main roads marked. I assume it's in the files because they imported that terrain as a heightmap into the game to base their own map on.
if only this game was given a normal dev time, its already the best game ever made in my eyes, incredible story, amazing atmosphere, unique followers(some a a bit to op *cough* boone" the countless memories playing this game not only as a child when it came out on a xbox 360 to now where i play it more than almost any game on my pc due to the amount of mods, the only game i was playing at 9 and 19
Also I’m more surprised nobody has tried to finish the game. I mean make mods to finally add the legion missing areas and quests, make the fiends a faction and add their quests to take camp mccaren, add the cut quests for primm and powder gangers
Add the missing khans quests like joining the khans and maybe killing all ncr troops at bitter springs. Finish the brotherhood by adding a quest to retake Helios and finish Vegas by adding more quests to show what Vegas is like. Like adding a quests to rob the casino and pull off an epic heist. Or a market place to Vegas like the developers wanted. Maybe even a quest in the ncr where one officer wants to kill another officer to advance his own career
I mean you have the concepts. All you need is a team of modders to finish the game and all it all in. Though I know it would take years, whoever does that will be known forever by the new Vegas community
@@ratchet1122 I think many are intimidated by the boots they have to fill, and the scope of work would require quite the creative type who are much more likely to make their own new content for the game.
It sucks that they could not make a city cause of time constraints and hardware limitations. I wish they would make a remake with recent hardware but at least we have Mods on pc
I always wanted to see a hidden nuketown in New Vegas. Filled with super mutants with all unique names from the movie The Hills Have Eyes. Woulda been a cool Easter egg.
I hope if Obsidian gets to remaster this game someday, that they are able to fully realize the map size they originally wanted and include some new content.
Tri, I'm so glad to have found your channel so long ago. After you're done with this series, please tell me you're doing a New Vegas playthrough stream on YT along with the Cut Content completely restored?
I would love to get a "Definitive Edition" of Fallout New Vegas, where we get the game as they originally envisioned it, before hardware limitations, and time restraints forced them to shrink the game. That would be cool.
Been enjoying all these cut content videos. Really does kind of hurt to know that this game was in some ways a shell of its original idea. I still replay this game fairly regularly and after watching the vids it’s hard to see the game the same way.
This was 100% new to me. Thank you so much for this enjoyable high quality upload. Loved the Zelda music inbetween and your awesome epilogue. :) I was almost getting used to the poorly-researched, clickbaity, adpestered "finance meee" videos being pushed by the algorithm. Thanks.
I once returned to tribal village and all the burned bodies and fiends had weirdly resurrected with minimal hp left, it was just fantastic :D all of them and cazadors went nuts
The map feels big, but the towns feel small. I give part of that to scaling it down for a video game but a ton of it is mostly likely due to being cut. New Vegas barely feels like a city due to this in my opinion.
I'll NEVER Forgive Bethe$da for NOT allowing Obsidian to FINISH Developing the game/ GIVING Them a PROPER Amount of DEV Time... It's SUCH a DAMN Shame... This Game is a MASTERPIECE!!! Imagine how MUCH better/memorable it COULD have been, had it gotten a proper amount of dev. time! :(
I do wonder if how games release incomplete nowadays was based on how Bethesda went about this, i only say this because they have often been sighted as industry movers for new gaming monetization methods.
Honestly from all I've learned the devs needed to sit down, take a good look all the scale of Fallout 3 and say "okay, these are the parameters of what the engine can do. We probably won't be able to push the engine much past this" So much development time was wasted on content that was completely unfeasible with the console limitations, and even would push high end PCs of the time in some cases. Fallout 3 showed that you could either have a large expensive area with relatively little in it, or small but densely packed areas. The NV devs went in wanting areas that were both sprawling and densely packed and had to start chopping the game up like crazy.
It doesn't help that they only had 18 months. Additionally, it's not uncommon for earlier builds of games to be more intensive that what the console can realistically handle since the dev builds are usually on very high-end PCs, and dev consoles usually have more resources to allow for debugging features to run smoothly
I love the hobo code idea. Theres a similar system in Skyrim and Fallout 4. Hell even in New Vegas Ulysses has his own version, though it’s a lot more basic and doesn’t relay a lot of information. Still I loved learning the symbols. Made me feel really smart 😂
Patrolling the cut-content almost makes you wish for an extra year of development time.
Patrolling the cut content almost makes you wish consoles weren't so weak.
Patrolling the cut content almost makes you wish they would be included in the Fallout 4 New Vegas mod.
That good as hell. Love your comment ❤
Playing F:NV makes me grateful for the game we got
@@sevenkaylive I do wonder what choices they will make as cut content can be cut for many reasons and it can't be known for sure which of them it was.
All this cut content makes me feel like I played the demo instead of the full game.
Best way to put it
yeah watching all these cut content videos makes me a little sad, like if they had either more dev time, or the game was simply made in a time where we had better hardware for consoles we coulda seen a game even better than what new vegas came out to be, and that is something that is insane seeing the miracle they did with new vegas to not only make it a complete game, but honestly one of the best games of the 2010s
that's about 90% of the games you play, not just new vegas.
@@theghostofthomasjenkins9643 New Vegas has an enormous amount of cut content compared to most games. Every game has cut content, New Vegas has enough cut content to make an entire new game.
@@JesseyStone or i dunno, screw the consoles and put it only on PC.
It blows my mind that this game has so much cut content that a channel can make videos about it spanning a whole year
I agree, but its worth adding that given the modding/dev tools we have available we are getting a closer look at something that many games also have to cut. I think it was one of the NV devs that said there's a balance to be struck between creating and producing a game.
i thought i watched them all until i saw this
I smell a cyberpunk channel being created for just that. That game has so much missing it’s unbelievable.
These are the original creators of fallout. They had stuff brewing in their minds well before BethSoft gave them the green light to work on *their OWN game*.
A year and a half is unheard of for a full game 'dev window', I dont care who you are.
@@Grimpy970 yup. No doubt. I'm sure alot of these ideas are resurfaced from back in the day. I love these videos. Gives you an entirely new perspective on how much effort and work could potentially be set onto a game.
F for all the Italian and German players who tried to get some easy XP by killing a nest of molerats.
It sounds very funny because they would be expecting a easy fight with mole rats but they get fucking cazadors instead
Hahaha back then, It was not funny.
@@AScottish-AustralianM-84 cazadors.....I hate those bastards
@@dakotajensen181 oh I fucking charge at them with a bloody flamer
@@matteoorlandi856 "Il pattugliamento del Mojave mi fa quasi sperare in un inverno nucleare"
If you watch the intro to new vegas, you’ll notice that the strip was longer, one coherent area, and had a 4 lane road with a sidewalk median. The Strip was originally intended to he much larger. But New Vegas overall was made incredibly smaller than the final product. Primarily due to time constraints and limitations of the engine and hardware. Unfortunately we never got to see the full version of New Vegas which would of been much more expansive and probably significantly more enjoyable.
console limitations
@@R3TR0J4N most pcs then would struggle too
Yeah, we watched the video buddy.
I like how some of the characters in the game are prasing the beauty of the Strip and when they ask you what you think about it I'm alway like "yeah it's ok I guess" kind of answer. Mr. House got kind of pissed when I didn't praise the Strip. He called me simple minded or something like that :D I guess he doesn't know about the cut content yet.
@@roguetoa9787 I wish they would remake Fallout New Vegas for Xbox One X And Xbox Series X&S and PC with all the cut stuff implemented.
An additional cut piece from Primm: Hayes says in his dialogue he has a “squad of rangers standing by” who are supposed to guard the town, but they aren’t rangers. They’re just troopers. I think the original concept was for them to be rangers, but for balance sake they made them troopers.
"Changed rangers in primm to troopers for balancing".
in a game where there are endless number of Cazadors and Deathclaws just north of Goodspring Graveyard, which is the first place most of the players would went to
@@hannibalburgers477 That's meant to act as an artificial barrier. Not to mention, Deathclaws and Cazadores don't give you higher levels weapons. Rangers do. Hence why it makes more sense for them to be troopers who carry crappy service rifles.
@@hamstersplural4334 I am playing my forth run in New Vegas this month, and trust me. If someone can defeat bunch of heavily geared NCR Rangers early game, they sure as hell deserve the loot.
Edit: Also one of the few places players could go (or had to go depending on the way you played) before going to Primm is NCR Mojave Outpost, a place that already has many troops and few NCR rangers.
Edit2: Also in no point of the first act of the game, quests forces you to deal with NCR troops in primm. You can attack and defeat them, as that is an option in many quests of New Vegas, but there is no quest that tells you to directly get rid of the troops.
@@hannibalburgers477 The Mojave outpost has no rangers. There is Ranger Ghost, who has a cowboy repeater and the crappy ranger armor. The closest spot to Good Springs with actual rangers are the Ranger Stations. I'm not sure why one small comment about balancing has turned into an entire debate. But whatever, you do you.
@@hamstersplural4334 There are at least 2 rangers because I just killed them.
Edit: Ranger Jackson, and ghost
Edit2: Because I got nothing better to do any I am bored
At this point, I have to wonder. Are we all just...cut New Vegas content?
The cut content was the friends we made along the way.
Why do we take the cut contest and push it somewhere else?
Mulder: we're all living in a simulation.....and the games we play are playing us back......
Scully: pfft that's preposterous......
Mulder: is it though?
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Have you ever questioned the nature of your reality?
I will counter your question with another question: Are we in New Vegas?
I lived in Vegas when this game came out
I remember kids at my school bragging about how they found "their house" in game
Really we would just find the closest building to the approximate spot in-game
I found mine using mount charleston and the highways as reference
Moment summerlin came up I knew it before he said it lol
2010 was an awesome year
With all this cut content showed, someone should really make the Ultimate New Vegas Strip restoration mod, with its missing areas and its interior cells placed how they were supposed to be. I'd defintely download such a mod
Fuck I’d pay for that mod. With all the work it would take and how amazing it would be, it sounds like it would have been worth the money. Even a mod where someone fleshed out the game and brought back some of the assets and ideas that got cut livening up some of the quieter and less worthwhile areas would be amazing.
A major issue with this is that the engine itself is laughably unstable and starts to creak under its own weight if you get too ambitious with how much stuff you wanna throw in a cell, there's not really any workaround for that
that wouldn't be a mod. that would be an all new game.
I hope someone would take the time to make a mod that restore a lot of the cut content, but I guess no one wants to mess with the engine, I still have hope after seeing that a stalker mod is literally a new game with a updated engine by the modders tho.
@@oliverato exactly. the engine just isn't worth messing with for something like this. the best you can hope for is someone makes it for FO4: NV whenever that gets released.
I remember thinking to my self how strange it was that Caesars Palace wasn't a location in New Vegas despite the fact that one of the main factions was modeled on the Roman Legions. There could have been an entire quest line around the Legion trying to take control of it for symbolic reasons.
Fallout New Vegas is in a desperate need of a remake.
Best case scenario is that F4NV gets acknowledged for its work and its mod team is hired full-time by Beth to finish it, the old Valve way
@@logarithmmm thats if every solar system lines up
@@Tank-Killer08 Very true but with the Microsoft acquisition coming we might see some egos take a back seat or the bosses new boss might see reason.
@@SToNeOwNz understandable I love new Vegas it was my first rpg video game wise I personally would rather a whole new game rather than a remaster.
@@logarithmmm press x to doubt
imagine if FNV had FO4's development time. 5 years instead of 1.5 years...
Bethesda literally cut Obsidian's development time because they saw the game was looking fucking awesome, and they had a deal that they would pay them a lot if the game had a score over 9. So they rushed Obsidian to finish the game as fast as possible, hoping it would be buggy and unfinished, with the critics giving New Vegas worse scores than It deserved as a result. And then Bethesda had an excuse to not pay Obsidian all the royalties they deserved, almost sending them to bankrupt.
Yeah, fuck Bethesda.
@@HannibalKantter really?
@@HannibalKantter copy and paste much?
@@niklassororitas no, not really
@@HannibalKantter That's a damn lie, the publishing team for Obisidian agreed with that time from the very beginning so they are the ones to blame. You can see the interviews of Obisidian members talking about the deal and how it went down here on UA-cam, plus Bethesda-Obisidian relations during development, and what you're saying is quite literally flatout bogus. This is why FNV fans have a bad name, shit like this.
I've always loved glitching out of New Vegas playable area, and just exploring the vast emptiness, unfortunately the map is so incredibly massive that I've only explore around the area of the long 15, and passed quarry junction, so next time I play I'm definitely going to be looking at these new locations.
You can get to the legates camp early
@@superdays7933
Yup. I did that with complementary vouchers on console, lol.
the long 15 is very long as ranger jackson said
Honestly if they took fallout nv and rebuilt the game to include almost all ideas, cut content, post content, and everything in between then resold fallout new vegas as a new standalone game for retail price, I wouldn't complain one bit. Imagine westside being the way it was envisioned and the map being as sprawling and hardcore as intended.
We share the same dream. Imagine if the world was 1:1 scale
@@leoradbrinkerhoff this ^
New vegas is simply too small.
They couldn't add a lot of it because it would change the story but even if they added half of what they cut I'd be willing to pay $60 for it easily.
I would like that too, man. I would like that too.
I wanna say the strip was supposed to be one great big cell. That’s now totally possible considering the Xbox series x n stuff.
I honestly wouldn’t complain if it looked half as good as f4
So that explains why those 'performance friendly' mods get such a boost from disabling some rocks, if they aren't missed it is free frames!
A lot of those mods end up being placebo and fucking up compatibility by deleting references.
It seems that the courier never technically completed their contract. You were supposed to bring payment to Johnson Nash or be forced to contend with mercenaries/reclamation teams but in most cases you forget about it as soon as Act II starts. I suspect this was planned at some point but abandoned due to time constraints. Got anything on this TriangleCity?
I'd imagine getting shot and buried alive makes the contract null
@@ben.patrick Nope. Because you survived. There's also a whole dialogue tree about recovering the package when you talk to Johnson Nash in Primm.
"CONTRACT PENALTIES
You are an authorized agent of the Mojave Express Package until delivery is complete and payment has been processed, contractually obligated to complete this transaction and materially responsible for any malfeasance or loss. Failure to deliver the proper recipient may result in forfeiture of your advance and bonus, criminal charges, and/or pursuit by mercenary reclamation teams. The Mojave Express is not responsible for any injury or loss of life you experience as a result of said reclamation efforts."
Edit: Failure to deliver includes getting shot in the head. The responsibility is on you until the package is delivered and payment is brought to Johnson Nash. Maybe I should've included the instructions as well with the contract penalties. At best this is a defense of your current circumstances. Courier is a high-risk high-reward profession.
To further elaborate: Benny is a third party. So him shooting you in the head does not void your contractual obligations to Mr. House and the Mojave Express. At best being shot is a defense for the courier's obvious breach of contract for failure to deliver.
@@E1_DE3 a know what you mean, maybe they planned certain dialog with Nash about it but cut it. Now in the Vanilla Version ( if i call it that after seing the cut Content XD ) Nash isn't angry about it or sued you for it. He was more like fuck it, i have bigger problems than that.
@@noobikus5475 Could be! One benefit the Courier has is that if they're talking to Johnson Nash, usually you're making the effort to retrieve it and that's a defensible enough reason. And he's got more pressing issues at the moment (seeing as Daniel Wyand is literally a corpse outside the Mojave Express). There's supposedly a main office back in New California, but we never interact with them so we have no way of knowing how they would react to receiving this information.
From a gameplay and development standpoint it makes sense why they might not prioritize this. Most people I talk to don't even read the contract so I'm not surprised that most people didn't notice this detail.
My head-canon is that the southern and western gates were there like a decade before for advertising the strip, but maybe due to fiend attacks they were walled up. Same with the outer buildings being ruins now
the hobo language was probably recycled into the shadow signs in skyrim, just way less cool. in skyrim they had a rare book that told you the sign meanings but other than that you just memorize them
Also the railsigns in Fallout 4
Imagine a full redux with a 1:1 scale map. Allowing for the density of New Vegas to be contrasted by desolate stretches of empty desert. The New Vegas we got was and still is tremendous, but for me it was just a taste of the full potential this setting has. New Vegas as we saw it in the comics and concept art was humongous and seeing it implemented in a redux (hopefully with the option to have the classic janky combat we all know and love) is a hope of mine for the future.
Btw I love the channel, it really brings to light many aspects of NV I didn't know about. I'm still discovering new things in my current play through.
The race track with all of the ants is a goof taste of what nv could have been
The road the Courier walks in New Vegas is about 120 miles long. Imagine walking 120 in-game miles.
I think a remaster of that caliber would need a Chrysalis Highwayman.
@@revolutionstudios5052yeah, I don't think people saying they want a 1 to 1 sized remake realise how big that actually would be.
@sierrahs.2306
Not exactly 1 to 1, but still exponentially larger. Any large building can be seen from nearly anywhere on the map because the scaling was too small. Hell, quarry junction, a location that is a tiny speck on a real life map, takes up a few persentages of the map, which makes no sense whatsoever.
It’s such a shame some ofthese areas got cut. Primm, the fiends territory outside the base, The Strip always felt a little off, like they were supposed to be bigger and more alive. The changes to scale in the strip really burns. Plus primm is so useless for such a large settled area
I always saw the NV Medical Clinic's logo and thought doctor (maybe I am a hobo), and it makes me sad that there could've been an entire series of signals observant players could have used to get immersed in the world. I get the feeling these might have been recycled into the shadowmarks from Skyrim though, and you can find an entire book on what they mean in the Thieves Guild's inner sanctum.
I doubt that, unless Bethesda was really looking over Obsidian's cut content.
Fallout 4 also has them in the form of "railsigns"
I never knew there were so much rubble buildings in NV.
I dont get it, House makes a big point about how he protected Vegas. Surely more houses would be standing.
Well due to not having the platinum chip he could only fully save the strip other areas in Vegas got hit but were still somewhat sheltered by House
@@soapdish124 Rioters.
@@soapdish124 well in game house mentions that he crashed multiple times and had to go back multiple os so during this time vegas probably fell and went to shit during the events of fo1. I think house woke up after fo2 when the ncr got close, and he could only secure the strip and the rest of vegas went to shit. But at least north vegas has abunch of standing buildings
It’s supposed to be a wasteland. Too many people like the commonwealth makes it feel less so
Kinda wish they had stayed with the concrete walls for new vegas, it would sell the idea that new vegas was never hit better then it does in game
Even if Las Vegas wasn't directly hit by nukes, the rest of the United States would have collapsed, and much of Las Vegas would be destroyed in the chaos.
i think it makes alot of sense. Since vegas wasnt hit alot of the population would have freaked out and possible opened or engaged in diplomacy with near vaults. Settlements much like fallout 4 would have been founded and get completely fucked by war and shit with raiders. So the makeshift fence kind of works because house was basically unconscious due to the lack of power and a reliable os
as someone who's familiar with them, the hobo language being cut is really heartbreaking for me because of the lost worldbuilding/environmental storytelling potential. it would've been awesome to see them drawn on random npc houses and whatnot - imagine trying to find out who sold boone's wife to the legion and seeing the "dishonest person lives here" marking on jeannie may crawfords house? even if you don't know what it means, you'd feel like there's something worth checking out.
Seeing all this cut-content make me wish this game was made with a better engine and given more time development.
New Vegas was honestly a very ambitious game, over a decade later and nee information about it is still coming out about it
I'm always conflicted when I watch these episodes, the amount of research and the quality of the videos are top notch. The fact so much was cut from the game is really sad.
Never clicked a notification faster than this vid.
The wall of rocks i mentioned actually made it in! I was beginning to wonder if I'd hallucinated that. Still watching all of these with childish awe.
Also note: i think i now understand why the randomizer mod makes nights (and days a lot of the time) really fucking dark. Funny to think that that mod technically restores a ton of cut content, even if it is mostly fallout 3 assets.
the west gate for the strip would make sense since when you noclip out of bounds in the area where its meant to be (near Micheal Angelo's) there is a road that runs right up to the wall where that gate would be.
Guessing they cut it cuz it made getting to the strip too easy
@@aceskeletonne7446 Though if I were to remake this game, I would made those gates a thing but bump up the price (From 2K caps to 5K) and bump up the sercurity
Never been this early, but I played this game since I was in 5th grade
damn, what was ur reaction when u went to the strip and saw gomorrah for the first time?
@@mrvespuccia.k.ameganite1747 That's assuming their frames didn't drop to 0 when loading specific cells.
Same though
same, sophomore at college now
I started playing this in 2012, I know the question ain't for me though here's my thoughts I think I was dammn reminds of Actual vegas from then on I always call it New Vegas instead of Las Vegas lol
I just want to say I really love your content man
One place I wish they'd been able to include is Area 51. It's very close to Nellis, and would have been well within the empty space on the edge of the map.
I would have loved aliens hiding inside, or aliens in a vault after taking over
i don't think area 51 exists in the fallout universe, I never remember it being mentioned.
It would’ve been a really cool way to do the enclave remnants, maybe have their base in 51 instead of Jacobs town lol
I think they wanted to add a lot more locations and stuff but ran out of time or could not be implemented due to hardware limitations
Would be amazing if a group of modders banded together to restore as much content as reasonably possible in an "all-in-one" overhaul mod. Technology is far removed compared to when the game originally released that I'm sure major changes could be made without tanking performance too much. One can only hope.
That's not the case sadly. The engine is still built for 2010 hardware at the end of the day. I've got a few mods that does stuff like open up Freeside and the Strip and perfomance is notably worse even on a modern machine.
@@hyhy5083 Ah, that's a shame. So major changes to the game's engine would have to be made to make these larger cut content to work? Wonder if it would be possible to optimize some of these to at least be passable.
@@the_real_Kurt_Yarish Exactly, a major rework of the engine, or an entirely new one would be needed. Which is of course quite a tall order for amateur modders/programmers.
But there is dim light at the end of the tunnel. There's a project called OpenMW, which is a project that seeks to recreate Morrowind in an opensource engine. There has been some talk about adapting the project into an opensource fallout 3/New vegas clone down the line. Which would theoritcally allow for a complete fan remake of New Vegas. But we're probably years off such a thing.
@@hyhy5083 I've never heard of OpenMW; the fact that modders are going far enough to attempt a project like that is exciting to hear. Reminds me of the people trying to remake New Vegas in Fallout 4's engine. Maybe they could work on returning cut content while they're at it? A tall order for sure, but one can hope.
You wouldn't necessarily need a new engine to make open areas with decent performance, l believe one of the main reasons Freeside and The Strip Open run badly is because of badly optimised meshes. If you fix them, you can see quite a drastic performance improvement.
It would've been amazing if we could've seen more of Arizona and California.
yeah or the dlc takes you out to certain locations. my list for dlc add ons. Area 51, Mount zion national park because thats a golden choice they made already. new reno areas could've pushed to kingman and bullhead city, lake havasu, sedona theres a lot of real life amazing things to add into the lore. like ufos in sedona havasu has the real london bridge. i never made it to bullhead city so i dont know it much
I just re-bought FNV thanks to your videos. I got it last weekend and have already logged like 25 hours between two weekends of play lol.
It was such a masterpiece, I loved it in 2011 and I love it in 2021.
If you already owned it, why pay for it again? If you lost your disc or account, just pirate it.
@@JohnSmith-fq3rg i wouldnt dare pirating such a game like New Vegas. the passion that went into it and given the resources that Obsidian was given - its a beautiful work of art. maybe dont pirate shit?
@@serenitatis2191 Fuck Bethesda, none of the dev team from New Vegas gets a cent when you buy it rn, that's a fact.
The biggest bit of cut content for New Vegas was stable coding
Not wrong 🤣
I was about to go to bed when this dropped.
Worth staying up for.
Same lol
I feel because of the engine they had to abandon a lot of their ambitions. If there was more development and a better engine this game would have been untouchable in terms of sales and the possibilities of what you could do in game. If they were to remake the game with all of their ambitions and resell it, I would buy it in a heartbeat. However for now we can only look at it and be interested in what could of been.
The engine is awful and definitely hampered development, but the limitations of available content were almost entirely because of the PS3's lack of available memory.
As far as development time goes, it's been stated that Bethesda implemented the deadline, but it's also been stated that Obsidian themselves implemented the 18 month deadline because they were on the brink of bankruptcy and wanted to push the game out earlier to recoup money spent on development.
Director: all right, we'll decide the bomb locations by a dart game
Employee: but sir you suck at this, your throws cant even hit the board
The building in primm is accessable. It took my 5 straight hours but basically you gonna stack barrels on the table outside of it and parkour flawlessly to get inside it. The couch thats inside cant be sit on.
You madman 😂
Was there anything good in that building in primm?
@@brandonwombacher2559 a couch that your cant sit in. (Atleast not on xbox 360 version)
@@totallynotaspy3588 it would have been amazing if you found a secret weapon hidden in that building.
Stopped doing my college assignment to watch this
Another great video. Funny enough, I was literally looking at that early map this morning.
I could have sworn you had a Followers of the Apocalypse video. Hopefully we get that at some point. I heard they were supposedly going to be an ending faction at some point.
Remember that on June 26 2021, the pentagon is supposed to release a comprehensive public report detailing everything they know about ufos.
They want us to forget.
Weird place for this comment but interesting, didn't know that
@@ClonesDream newly posted videos offer maximum visibility.
@@xjunkxyrdxdog89 why not post on a music video?
@@sterilebroth8933 I have.
@Lutheran Crusader absolutely real. The covid relief bill included a mandate ordering that the pentagon (within 6 months) release a public report detailing what they know about the ufo phenomenon. That deadline is here.
It's a shame a jail system was cut.
I can see memes out of it like Oblivion where if you steal something in the Strip, an MP comes over and is like
"HEY, HEY STOP RIGHT THERE! You're caught red-handed you thief. Look, your coming with me to the Embassy, or you can pay an fine of 250 Caps. Run and I'm gonna put you on a warrant."
> [Follow the MP Officer]
"Easy now, no sudden movements."
You wait 3 days in the cells at the Strip Embassy. Your belonings are given back to you and stolen goods are retracted.
> [Pay your Fine of 250]
Successful
"Alright, your free to go. Any more trouble and I'm taking you in."
Fail - Poor
"No money huh? Of course, probably blew it it all on the strip. Follow me, no sudden movements."
Same as complying, 3 days in a cell.
> [ATTACK] Your not taking me alive!
"Not complying huh? Well, time to issue some police brutality!"
> Infamy Gained - NCR, Strip
> [Escape]
"HEY, GET BACK HERE!"
Infamy Gain - NCR, Strip
> [Bachelor / Lady Killer] Is there something wrong officer? You seem stunned.
"W-well, ugh. I'm letting this slide. I'm not gonna be so friendly next time."
> [Legion / Low Reputation] [Spotted]
"I know you, your in the NCR blacklist. I'm taking you in, dead or alive!"
> [NCR] Officer, I'm sorry about this.
"Oh, your that courior who's been doing all those deeds for the NCR. I'll let this slide for now because your on good terms but next time, I gotta take you in. I'm sorry, it's my job."
> [Speech 75] "Is there a way to work something out?"
Sucessful
"Fine, we can just because I'm in a good mood. 150 Caps and give the item back."
>[Speech 100] You sure?
"Fine, just 100 Caps. I'm not suppose to be doing this, I can get into serious trouble."
> Failure
"No."
> [Sneak 75] [Open for search] I didn't steal anything. See?
Sucessful
"I swear I...I'm sorry then Sir. Have a nice day."
Failure
"Oh you fucking rat, don't talk your way out of this. That's it, I'm taking you in, no ifs or buts about it, now shut up and get infront of me, hands behind your head."
Perfect dialogue concept man.
Perfect dialogue concept man.
The amount of work you've done so far is fascinating. Keep it up and best of luck! I truly wish someone could compile all of this content and make an ultimate mode restoring what's possible.
Thank you! Instant like! Don’t know how you keep them coming but I appreciate every minute!
Perhaps one content that bugs me the most is entrance behind welcoming sign. It is because it seems that it would be relatively easy to implement, it would make going to Strip less of a chore and damn, it would just fit so well...
Super interesting, these videos feel like the "boundary break" series, but i like this more
I started playing New Vegas again recently after like 6 years, and with lots and lots of mods this time.
Man, I forgot how much I love this game! 😁
Imagine how much time this man took to make this video. Amazing. Thank you TriangleCity.
Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter
You prevented Silus from being interrogated.
This channel is absolute gold. More than gold. .....gold bars from the Sierra Madre
This is pure dedication man, great video.
The world is huge outside the playable area let's hope if this game gets a remake they can make the world as big as it was meant to be.
Will you be doing honest hearts and the other dlc’s?
Yep, the DLC's will be the final video
When your finished with this series what do you plan to do next? If it was me I’d hire a team of modders and try to finish the game. From the looks of things it needs probably 10-15 more location, probably 50-80 more quests, a bigger strip, thousands of lines of dialogue, more weapons and armor, and that’s it. The devs got what they got in 18 months but any modder that tries to do this would have to dedicate years of their life to finish this. Of course if you do then people will be praising you for years so it’s not a bad trade. Who knows,, maybe Bethesda might buy your mod for millions and sell it as an official remaster
Actually I miscalculated. Maybe 40-60 more quests involving the brotherhood, powder gangers, great khans, the strip and its families, the legion and a few ncr quests. And it won’t take a lot to do it. Probably 2-3 years
And the fiends, can’t forget the fiends
@@ratchet1122 Bethesda would just take and sell it without paying you. They don't have to buy the rights to something they already own.
I love these videos, I hope the f4nv team is watching these videos and implementing as much as they can!
Man, the dream would be a full remaster WITH cut content.
Unfortunately, a lot of the voice actors are no longer with us.
So even if they could Implement stuff like post-game content and new areas, I imagine it would be kind of hard to get Caesar or House to Mention it .
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🐍 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
Fuck you're right. Rene Auberjonois , Alex Rocco, David Anthony Pizzuto , Barry Dennen, Richard Herd , they're gone.
One could always just AI-generate the new lines using the existing voice lines as sample material. The software to do that is crazy these days.
Thankfully, Caesar's wonderful voice actor is still alive and kicking.
@@leoradbrinkerhoff Hopefully
Let's goooo! Would love to see a remake happen...
On a better engine, perhaps Unity or Creation engine if they are not so creative
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k agreed. Bethesda needs to bite the bullet and scrap their ragged ass engine that has been out of date for well over a decade.
@@gilgreen946 bethesda's bethesda... idk but I can see them using something new in Starfield or ES6, if the world doesn't end by then.
@@CreativeUsernameHere-r1k hahaha
There is a cell called "5 winds" which is a mountaintop with a little path leading up to it and some rocks. The area around it is a huge mountain blocked by invisible walls. It is located south of Primm Pass
I have a suspicion that the "bomb crater" at 7:16 is the original Devil's Throat. The real-life equivalent is on the eastern side of Lake Mead, a bit northeast of the accessible one in-game, so maybe it was moved to its current location after they scaled back the Legion content?
EDIT: Checked it in-game myself, location checks out. I think it was moved.
I can’t get enough of these videos! Great work as always!
So Bethesda poached the idea for Railroad markings from New Vegas?
No, since Skyrim has a similar system with the Thieves Guild.
@@CrimsonKnight77 I'm not saying they did "steal" the idea. But Skyrim came out way after FNV
@@dannyway1111 Way after? It was two months after Lonesome Road. Not to mention Skyrim began development before New Vegas. Also, here's the real kicker: These markings were cut. I doubt Bethesda ever knew they existed in the first place. They would have needed to root around in the game files, and it's extremely unlikely they felt the need to do such a thing.
@@CrimsonKnight77 Skyrim came out a full year after fnv. The markings were a base game idea, so how is lonesome Road relevant. Your point was "there's no way the railroad system copied fnv's hobo system because skyrim did the same thing" but skyrim came out a full year after fnv released. So I'm not sure what your point is. Like I already said, I don't think they did. I was just pointing out the flaw in your argument
@@dannyway1111 My point was that Obsidian stopped working on New Vegas completely only two months before Skyrim came out. That's not even my main point. Why don't you address my point over the signs being cut? Bethesda are highly unlikely to know they existed.
The 6:10 map seems to be the real topography of Las Vegas, with main roads marked. I assume it's in the files because they imported that terrain as a heightmap into the game to base their own map on.
if only this game was given a normal dev time, its already the best game ever made in my eyes, incredible story, amazing atmosphere, unique followers(some a a bit to op *cough* boone" the countless memories playing this game not only as a child when it came out on a xbox 360 to now where i play it more than almost any game on my pc due to the amount of mods, the only game i was playing at 9 and 19
love seeing your channel expand ❣️
Also I’m more surprised nobody has tried to finish the game. I mean make mods to finally add the legion missing areas and quests, make the fiends a faction and add their quests to take camp mccaren, add the cut quests for primm and powder gangers
Add the missing khans quests like joining the khans and maybe killing all ncr troops at bitter springs. Finish the brotherhood by adding a quest to retake Helios and finish Vegas by adding more quests to show what Vegas is like. Like adding a quests to rob the casino and pull off an epic heist. Or a market place to Vegas like the developers wanted. Maybe even a quest in the ncr where one officer wants to kill another officer to advance his own career
I mean you have the concepts. All you need is a team of modders to finish the game and all it all in. Though I know it would take years, whoever does that will be known forever by the new Vegas community
@@ratchet1122 I think many are intimidated by the boots they have to fill, and the scope of work would require quite the creative type who are much more likely to make their own new content for the game.
the cut weather that made night very black made the perks and items that give you vision that more relevant in the game
Sad, so much fun times lost in the rain, like tears.
Seeing this reminds me of something I heard forever ago about how when they made NV they legitimately wanted the strip to be like a full ass city
It sucks that they could not make a city cause of time constraints and hardware limitations. I wish they would make a remake with recent hardware but at least we have Mods on pc
I always wanted to see a hidden nuketown in New Vegas. Filled with super mutants with all unique names from the movie The Hills Have Eyes. Woulda been a cool Easter egg.
I hope if Obsidian gets to remaster this game someday, that they are able to fully realize the map size they originally wanted and include some new content.
Tri, I'm so glad to have found your channel so long ago. After you're done with this series, please tell me you're doing a New Vegas playthrough stream on YT along with the Cut Content completely restored?
I would love to get a "Definitive Edition" of Fallout New Vegas, where we get the game as they originally envisioned it, before hardware limitations, and time restraints forced them to shrink the game. That would be cool.
Been enjoying all these cut content videos. Really does kind of hurt to know that this game was in some ways a shell of its original idea. I still replay this game fairly regularly and after watching the vids it’s hard to see the game the same way.
This was 100% new to me. Thank you so much for this enjoyable high quality upload. Loved the Zelda music inbetween and your awesome epilogue. :) I was almost getting used to the poorly-researched, clickbaity, adpestered "finance meee" videos being pushed by the algorithm. Thanks.
if this game had a few more years it would have been way better thanks Bethesda
I honestly would love to see modders bring back all these locations and buildings as close as possible
I got an ad for Las Vegas LOL
I once returned to tribal village and all the burned bodies and fiends had weirdly resurrected with minimal hp left, it was just fantastic :D all of them and cazadors went nuts
So much cut content lol
That was very good video. I've researched many NV cut content but this video is filled with new stuff I never knew.
Hang on, I thought there was a camping site near Camp Golf? There's picnic tables and caravans.
Gotta love the notification for a Triangle City upload. Just in time for break at work
The map feels big, but the towns feel small. I give part of that to scaling it down for a video game but a ton of it is mostly likely due to being cut. New Vegas barely feels like a city due to this in my opinion.
I can't get enough of these videos. There's more cut content in NV than actual content in some games.
I'll NEVER Forgive Bethe$da for NOT allowing Obsidian to FINISH Developing the game/ GIVING Them a PROPER Amount of DEV Time... It's SUCH a DAMN Shame... This Game is a MASTERPIECE!!! Imagine how MUCH better/memorable it COULD have been, had it gotten a proper amount of dev. time! :(
Or had it not been tweaked and "optimised" for the consoles
I do wonder if how games release incomplete nowadays was based on how Bethesda went about this, i only say this because they have often been sighted as industry movers for new gaming monetization methods.
@@DoDoAirplane 360 can't handle shit but the ps3 can
@@Juggaloyaknow its the opposite lol for fnv
@@Juggaloyaknow is that why the ps3 version of fnv is the objectively buggiest version?
i came across this series today and then tonight you upload once more. i love this.
Honestly from all I've learned the devs needed to sit down, take a good look all the scale of Fallout 3 and say "okay, these are the parameters of what the engine can do. We probably won't be able to push the engine much past this" So much development time was wasted on content that was completely unfeasible with the console limitations, and even would push high end PCs of the time in some cases.
Fallout 3 showed that you could either have a large expensive area with relatively little in it, or small but densely packed areas. The NV devs went in wanting areas that were both sprawling and densely packed and had to start chopping the game up like crazy.
It doesn't help that they only had 18 months. Additionally, it's not uncommon for earlier builds of games to be more intensive that what the console can realistically handle since the dev builds are usually on very high-end PCs, and dev consoles usually have more resources to allow for debugging features to run smoothly
This video got me out of a boring team meeting "Sorry something important has just come up!" truer words were never spoken :)
r/madlads
If only Obsidian has more time to work on the game and didn't have Bethesda breathing down their neck
I like how your music is louder than your voice, makes it really fun to try and pick your words out of the booming bass
wake up babe new cut content vid
I love the hobo code idea. Theres a similar system in Skyrim and Fallout 4. Hell even in New Vegas Ulysses has his own version, though it’s a lot more basic and doesn’t relay a lot of information. Still I loved learning the symbols. Made me feel really smart 😂
I'd love to see a fallout new vegas 2, same story, but updated engine, and all the cut content flushed out.
Good, i wasn't going insane wasn't the only one to find those craters.
Game needs a remake with all of the cut content but i heard that half of nv devs left so it would probably be hard to add
Sawyer might be the only remainder. We don't count Fergus.
the out of bounds terrain alone suggests this game had a much bigger scope at one point
6:07 Bet you a beer that was a testing placeholder.