This Album is At War With Itself. Rediscovering: The Changing of Times by Underoath (DFT'S Dungeon)
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2023
- Some albums teach us what it means to be cool and gives us something to emulate, but there are some albums that are content with just meeting us where we are at a certain time in our lives. Underoath's The Changing of Times embodies the feeling of being a teenager, that feeling of trying to move forward towards adulthood but being stuck in our past. Join me as I take a look back at the first time things were changing for Underoath.
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What's your first experience with Underoath?
Great video! My first experience with them was probably 2004 ish. I heard Young and Aspiring after youth group one Sunday night. I have been a big fan ever since.
@@handsomeawkward1822 the energy on Chasing Safety is infectious
I never listened to any of their music when it came out but when I considered christianity and went to my local church they said I had to give up on my music so I started searching for christian bands and I found underoaths first album which is still one of my favorites to this day even though I never ended up converting
@@timtervamaki9409 they definitely had an impact on people religious or not.
My mom always played them in the car when I was a little kid
When the sun sleeps is still a banger
I remember walking the halls at college emotionally beat up from a break up and telling myself, i just need to listen to underoath, that will help.
It has that era of our lives captured perfectly
Also, the breakdown in Best Of Me is def my fav Underoath breakdown for sure
this album unintentionally is like proto blackgaze . Brings in this emo and screamo spirit and black metal/death metal riffs , similar identity that like Deafheaven and some bands would have in early 10s
Oh yeah if they had stopped here and tried to iron out this sound they probably would be considered a blackgaze type of band nowadays.
Alone In December needs a 🩸🔪 warning label on it 😭 that girl in the beginning is exactly what happens when I listen to that song, everytime
I feel that.
UA-cam algorithm recommended to me randomly. Awesome video. Just watched my good friend’s band cover Angel Below two days ago lol.
Angel Below was the first Underoath song my wife heard where she actually said "wow this is cool I like this".
Man the way this is explained I wish this was my first experience with Underoath.
But my first experience was Separation. While it’s not the emotional battle of Changing, the constant theme in that record of realizing things are broken and in need of change capture where my teenage heart was at at the time
The song A Fault Line A Fault of Mine is actually still a really emotional song for me.
I grew up with these albums and this music. I was raised in Florida and UnderØath was my favorite band for a time. I also see that sticker on your Wii - I recognize it. Josh Scogin's former side project, "A Rose By Any Other Name". I have the same sticker on my old guitar case. Pretty sure I picked it up at a Chariot show in either Tallahassee or Orlando.
These albums had all been out for some time before I entered my true teenage years, but they were still required reading for heavy music fans in my circles. Especially since I was also a youth group kid for some time. It's a funny thing to look back on, because the music from these albums connects me to that time and brings back memories like nothing else. Back when UnderØath folded, I bought tickets to their (first) last show in St. Pete. I also saw what was supposed to be The Chariot's last show in Atlanta before they added another in Douglasville. Those bands all started folding around the same time and it was in the first half of college for me. All my favorites from high school were dying off, and so was the genre as a whole.
I think hearing peoples own stories with bands and music is part of what makes videos like this entertaining in the first place, so I wouldn't worry about it taking a while to start talking about the album in question. I always loved When the Sun Sleeps and Never Meant to Break Your Heart the most off of this album. I also sometimes enjoyed The Changing of Times and Alone in December. I was more a fan of Chasing Safety through Sound of Separation. I love your format!
Thank you so much! Its crazy to me how big the world of this kind of music actually is, but also how small it is. When I was listening to these old Underoath records in highschool I felt so isolated from everyone else, and yet as I get older and start talking about these records its amazing to hear how many people were affected by this music. I also really love Chasing Safety I think that album and that sound was what Underoath was striving for on this album, they just weren't quite there yet. They really figured itout after changing singers and writing catchier songs. What I love about Underoath though was that once they had the wider fanbase they started experimenting with their sound again.
my favorite collection of music ever. this album genuinely saved my life and it means the world to me. thank you for this video man. the respect you have for this album is extremely refreshing from the usual dismissive nature people have towards it. the war of styles in this album is what I love the most about it at the end of the day and I guess it's hard for me to understand that it just doesn't click with some people.
yeah for the longest time this was my go to album because it was able to articulate the way I was feeling at that age in a way that nothing else could.
Awesome gem of a video!
Thank you!
Great job, dude! Video quality matches the care and effort you put into the audio and script. It jist keeps getting better.
Thanks buddy!
Glad to see someone else stans Cries of the Past as much as I do
Yeah it's pretty much perfect
I'm convinced that that was Corey's record through and through haha. Pretty wild to imagine what the band would have been if he had been able to stay with them and influence their direction
@@nonamelegend_vapor yeah he was metal to the bone ha ha. Didn't he have another band for awhile called like Archer?
@@dft9000 I dunno, I'll have to look into that. He definitely did a solo project at some point, I forget what it was called though
Symmetry Point! It's here on UA-cam
His Encyclopaedia Metallum entry mentions Archer, but I couldn't find any of their music
Damn bro you really got me in my feels with your highschool story dawg 😢😢😂
Wish Dead Poetic would come back but after talking to the guitarist, the lead singer definitely was over it all
Yeah if they were gonna come back they would have during all the Furnace Fest stuff over the last few years. I miss em too though.
Close my eyes ❤
This is that good good!
That old school vice.
So I love this album and for a long time was really the only Underoath album I liked. I have since gone back and discovered an appreciation for stuff they're released since, but I was all in on The Changing of Times and I remain all in 22 years later.
Anyway, you've kind of pegged something about Christian music that I haven't really thought about before. I was Christian music only during the 90s and into the early 00s. About 2001 or so I started getting into non-Christian music such that by the end of the 00s I'd mostly stopped keeping up with Christian music. About that time I stopped attending church regularly, went to college, etc, etc, and by the 2010s was pretty much one of those "Love Jesus, but don't have patience for Christian culture or the church"-type of people. Such that by the time 2016 rolled around (give or take a year) I realized I didn't really believe in uppercase God at all. It was a relief to officially brand myself an atheist. But one thing that did not happen after my "unconversion" was suddenly seeing the music I grew up with as... cheesy or stupid or, you know, something I could just let go of. I always assumed that was nostalgia more than anything. I mean, I dunno if I was ever on the same music message boards as you in the early aughts, but music was my life: Listening to it, reading about it, talking about it. Of course nostalgia is why I can't let go of that music the way all my unconverted friends did.
But your comment about that sense of hope within Christian music really struck me. Because while I'd personally not connect with the hyper evangelical lyrics (and there's definitely some Christian artists I wouldn't connect with today because of them), I do like that there is that undercurrent of hope to a lot of Christian music. Which is probably why I've never found satisfactory "replacements" for a lot of the Christian bands in the non-Christian music sphere. To wrap back around to Underoath, I agree 100% with your analysis of "When the Sun Sleeps" in terms of there is that sense of sadness, but there's also that hint of a better tomorrow. It's something you can feel without even paying attention to the lyrics.
You know I've never been able to put my finger on exactly what IT is about Christian bands. At least some of them. For instance I don't feel very hopeful listening to something like Embrace the Eternal by Embodyment. It's got Christian lyrics but the vibe is oppressive. But the bands who do have that hopeful feeling in the music are numerous. It's just the ones who have it, it sticks out above all else.
@@dft9000 Agreed that there are definitely exceptions (I was thinking Liberate Te Ex Inferis while writing my post, but Embrace the Eternal works as well), although I'd also argue that I don't return Embrace the Eternal with anywhere near the frequency that I would if I didn't turn to Slipknot's Iowa for those sorts of moods. I enjoy Embrace the Eternal when I put it on, nor do I think they're a carbon copy of Slipknot (even though that was kinda the running narrative at the time lol), but when I'm mood-scrolling my library, Slipknot'll always get that edge. And since I brought up the Zao album, well, it may not sound hopeful, but it is one of the best damned albums of all time, so I'll give it a pass on that front, lol.
Maybe I'm wrong and am trying to force a little line from a UA-cam video into a larger thesis statement than it deserves, but it's the first thing I've heard that might hint at why I keep pearl-clutching my old Christian music, lol. At the very least, it's something I want to kinda pay attention to moving forward.
Never been a big Underoath fan, and I honestly can't recall if I ever gave this particular album a chance before. I listened after watching this video, and I can definitely appreciate what they were trying to do. Different influences being forced info the same space, with varying success, but an interesting result nonetheless.
Yep that feeling of knowing you are supposed to do something cool but not knowing what to do exactly.
I wanted to thank you for this video. I bought this album on a whim in 2007. Before then Red was my favorite band. This album is so incredibly personal to me even as an adult who just turned 30. I sing in a christian deathcore band now but I always go back to this album I actually showed my coworker the song the act of depression and the sun still sleeps and he loved it! I do enjoy them up until lost in the sound. You know how it is, as a chridtian hardcore kid I'm stuck with straight edge tattoos and vegan tattoos and an underoath tattoo haha the first 2 don't apply to me now and obviously underoath isn't christian anymore. I remember I saw underoath on headbangers ball for the first time hearing WHAT ARE YOU SO AFRAID OF from Spencer and I was so intrigued by that much screaming in 2006 cuz I was like 11 haha but next year I started picking neighbors weeds and bought the first underoath cd I saw with that money, TCOT and as first I was disappointed that it wasn't Spencer and didn't like that style of vocals yet but it grew on me so quick. And thanks to this album at 13 I discovered cannibal corpse. This video made me subscribe and now I'm watching your Linkin park video as Linkin Park and limp bizkit got me into metal! Thanks man. God bless 🙏 if prayer isn't your think anymore, positivity sent to you man!
I always appreciate prayers! I'm not as into religion as I used to be but I'm happy to see that this album impacted your life as much as it did. Sometimes it just takes feeling like you're not alone in how you're feeling that makes all the difference.
a video on embodyment would be fucking awesome
Narrow Scope or Embrace the Eternal? Those are the two I'm most familiar with anyway
i feel like both would be cool considering it’s such a crazy transition
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Best album imo
think I prefer Cries of the Past the most, but this TCOT is still amazing.
Gotta say i love Acts of Depression and Cries from the Past
Cries of the Past is my all time favorite
Check out Spencer’s old band this runs through too
Yeah Ive got their demo somewhere on the old hard drive.
Goated band
I always describe this album to my mom as "It sounds like six guys in the studio are constantly arguing about what album they want to make."
Also, according to Chris Dudley, The title track for TCOT is the only time Aaron did dirty vocals in an official Underoath song.
Where does he scream in that song?
@@dft9000 Around the 1:48 mark in the song. He starts growling "Hate time to say goodbye".
interesting! I always just though it was Dallas.@@HK007Filmworks
The POD to metal core pipeline.
Every time ha ha!
Alright know this video is going to be great before even watching it
Already
I have very limited experience with Underoath. Have really enjoyed what I’ve heard, but have never made the effort they deserve to really check them out.
They have a pretty diverse catalogue. There will be something in there you'll like.
I enjoy the lyrics from The Changing of times but it's near impossible to understand Dallas
I totally agree actually. Even on the classic albums it's pretty hard to understand him.
You were kinda cringe in high school.
Absolutely. I'm pretty cringe now too.
Nice UnderOat shirt @ 28:45!
Had the same shirt in high school, loved that one.
Nice video and insight.
Thank you! I wish it still fit me!