How To Turn Your Old Decks & Mixer Into A Serato System - CHEAP!
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- Have a pair of turntables and a mixer lying around collecting dust? In this Tuesday Tips Live, we show how you can turn your old decks and DJ mixer into a full Serato DJ DVS system (for cheap!) We're using Technics 1210 Mk2s with a Technics SH-EX1200 DJ Mixer + a Denon DJ DS1, but you can use all different types of gear to achieve this setup. Tune in!
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Thanks for this. I stopped DJing 20 years ago and just recently pulled my 1210s and Vestax mixer out of the garage for my daughters to enjoy.
I've been acutely aware how DJing has progressed but never thought I'd be able to afford new equipment, let alone understand how it all works. Now I can move into 2022 with my 1989 1210s 👍
Have fun (and your daughter) ;)
Tank you Phill ! NEW LIFE TO the VINTAGE ! this is pure entertainment for us the Old Boys !
Glad you liked this!
Thanks you for modernizing this old, dusty haired DJ. I originally watched your video and bought the Rekordbox interface,which was a huge mistake. This Denon interface is great!!!
Glad to help!
You are a wonderful teacher Phil. Best explanation I have heard on Absolute vs Relative mode
Glad it was helpful!
@@digitaldjtips will it still work to day or is discontinued i need something that works
Thanks Phil for that great 411! 👍🏽
No worries Cee!
I realize this video is a couple years old now but today in 2022 you can get a serato mixer for as low as $250.
Care to share which one/where?
I was thinking the same. Pioneer ddj rev1 has it all for £260
great video as always..
I think this has just been the answer to soon to be problem. I have Traktor Kontrol S4. Im in the process of getting some 1210 Mk2. I am looking to switch over to Rekordbox. Purely from a Bedroom DJ poirt I aiming to combine both decks and a controller as my digital collection is increasing, but I want to relive my old bedroom DJ days and play vinyl. Plus there are some tracks I cannot get hold of. So thank you for shedding a great deal of light of what I can achieve.
Glad to help :)
Great video, very helpful, thank you ☺️👍🏼
You're welcome Sam :)
PHil I must say thanks to you I have learnt a lot about DJing. You are truly an energizing and very professional gentleman. BTW I noticed you rarely speak about Virtual DJ. You should do a video session about VDJ
Thanks! Anything specific in VDJ you'd like us to cover in a video?
Great info man
Thank uuuuuu
I needed that
No problem!
Excellent!!! And thank you 🙂🤙🏼
My pleasure!
This is awesome I have old mixer and technical turntable wow
Great!
I just pulled out my old SL1200MK3Ds. Lost all my vinyl in a flood. I have most of my old vinyl on MP3 so this is gonna be a game changer for me.
Have fun Brian!
I got dvs set up couple 2nd hand stanton T-80's and a brand new mixars cut great lil set up
Awesome!
Hello thanks for the video is it possible to use my old vinyl decks the XP 2 as the interface, not needing another interface.
My Pioneer DJM 600 mixer channel with 4 channels ?? thanks in advance.
I am the dad & ive been debating for yrs to do this im gonna do it finally cuz i cant dj anyother way than using turntables👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Good, have fun setting them up :)
What about micro pitch movements with vinyl, when doing long mixes in house music and you need it perfect. Sometimes on my Technics I just have to move the pitch half a millimetre to get it perfectly matched for a long mix.
Does Serato pick up those small micro movements on the pitch?
Every tutorial I see they just make large movements on the pitch up and down just to show Seraao tracking the pitch
Will echo fx work when using my old vinyl or will it only work on digital?
I currently have my mkii on the market, but holy smokes, I might take it off! I only have one, so I'll get the appropriate audio interface. I've got loads of mp3s and my 100 year old mixer - can't wait!!!
DJ rule of thumb: Never sell mkiis!
@@digitaldjtips She's home where she belongs!
I have the Denon, really good deal. ANy midi standalone device will be mappable to serato
neon reloop, dicer. etc
Hi Phil, should there be post fader effects with the DS1?
Awesome
🙌
Hi, I was wondering if this channel ever did an episode about new DJs starting our own weekly radio shows or weekly podcasts and the software, streaming or licenses available to make it happen ... also how to reach people once we create these DJ shows. How do we go about it? If there's a show already please link me, if not, would be a great future idea!
Thanks for the suggestion.
This may be a silly questions, but what about listening to your cues tracks when you have a setup with an older mixer and technics hooked up via DVS? I am trying to wrap my head around this. Thanks in advance!
It's works the same way
does Denon Ds1 works with Serato DJ Pro>? cause you only mention Serato DJ which is different with Dj Pro
Can you use this device to get your modern deck that is not out of the box compatible with Serato to work with Serato?
Hello. I have numark ntx1000 and numark m4 mixer. How can I use serato control vinyl with this equipments
hi phil i have a denon dj mc7000 i have addadided to extra decks to the the controler the two decks are called newmarks tt1650. but i cant get any sound out of them thay do have two small amperfires conected to them but still cant get any sound out of them. whats the best thing to do to get the sound to come out of them. many thanks john.
I have old technics 1200s and an old numark mixer. I want to do this with my set up. Great video. This is everything I wanted to know thank you. One question , are there recommended needles to use that are good for both records and the control vinyl. It’s 2021 now is it still good to use this set up. I only DJ as a hobby in my basement.
Any decent needle will do the job for both DVS and vinyl
@@digitaldjtips Thank you for replying
Interesting video. I’ve got a launchpad lying about at home. Would that do XP’s job as well?
It can be Midi mapped, yes
Hi Phill thanks a lot for you videos, always learning new things with you. I have a little question for you or anyone here who can help me. If I have a dvs setup like this, and also want to play regular vinyl, is it possible just changing to thru mode? Thanks
Yes, it is.
@@digitaldjtips is it possible only in Serato or does it work in Traktor the same way?
Yes
I'm still using MacBook pro 2015 and SL3 , looking to upgrade .Dose this work with the MacBook pro 2020/2021???? what sort of UBB cord will i need?
Depends on the operating system not the Mac itself, check the Rane website for information
I've been meaning to do this for 15 years. Lol. I'll get around to it soon.
Go on, do it!
@@digitaldjtips from what I gather the Denon DVS interface is no longer available (discontinued?) and the other ones available don't work with Serato (which is my preferred software). Was looking at the Numark Scratch mixer that comes with DVS integrated, Serato software, and Control Vinyl. That's about £400 and then a laptop too which would cost another £300 I assume (I have a crappy one that just wouldn't be suitable). It's all a bit pricey. Any suggestions on how to do this cheaper and/or on suitable budget laptops? I'm not too fussed either about having all the bells and whistles that come with the Numark Scratch mixer. I just wanna mix, not press buttons. Lol. That's half the reason I gave everything up in the first place. Ps. My old setup is 2 x 1210s and a SoundLab Mixer. TIA.
Hi Phil Is there a way to bypass the system to mix thru Serato while keeping the possibility of mixing real vinyl on a same dj session?
Yes, you can do that. you need to select "THRU" mode - here's how to do it in Serato: support.serato.com/hc/en-us/articles/360004125475-Virtual-Deck-Play-Modes
I purchased a Numark M6 usb. Would I need an audio interface to go in between the mixer and my laptop to run Serato, or should I be able to just plug into the usb?
You need a Serato approved audio interface - or just use another DJ software like Traktor, Rekordbox or Virtual DJ that can work with your mixer
Hi Phil!
Great video as usual.
One question though..
Do you need to have the DVS expansion pack for serato in order for the set up to work, or you can just plug everything as it is?
Thank you.
You need dvs expansion
What's the Traktor equivalent control unit...?
Love the videos cheers...
Don't quote me, but I'm pretty sure this will work in Traktor 3 as DVS in Traktor now works with all audio interfaces.
I would buy a Traktor Kontrol Z2 mixer for £200 off eBay if using Traktor instead of buying the interface and a controlling system.
Hey is it possible to use an old and scratched vinyl record and use it as a control vinyl for Djing?
No, control vinyl is a special type of vinyl
Hello,
I would like to know if I can use my Traktor Z2.
If I buy serato DJ pro software?
Nice New year
Thierry
You'd need a Serato audio interface I think, I don;t think the Z2 works at all with Serato otherwise.
Hello Phil! Congrats on your video! Just a question / clarification by myside. Let's say that apart from the 2 turntables , I want to add in my set up 2 Pioneer CDJs devices (models that belong to the Serato Official Accesory category). Will these 2 extra CDjs be displayed in Serato DJ Pro or do I need : a) Rane SL4 and b) 4-channel mixer (like Pioneer DJM-600) in order to succeed that? I want to be able to use all of them silmunaneously.
Thank you in advance for your feedback.
Greetings from Athens, Greece
Obviously you need a four-channel mixer if you want two turntable and two DVS decks. and yes it'll work fine, you plug the CDJs into the computer via USB and the audio into the mixer as normal.
@@digitaldjtips Good morning! Thank you very much for your answer!
Will it work on a Numark M2 mixer?
It's work with any mixer
Hi,Please assist me here how do I link my Behringer DJX750 MIXER with SERATO DJ PRO. My MIXER doesn't have HID port.
You just need a Serato approved audio interface
As always great video Phil, one question, is there an alternative of rekordbox but for virtual dj? Thanks!
You can use Denon DS1 as Vdj. Just go to Vdj to download firmware and software
@@dwaynewilliams3850 Thanks for the tip!
@@djdurden also can go VDJ web site they tell you which controller are compatible to use with VDJ.
Thanks for helping Dwayne.
I have both 1200 mk2 Technic turntables I also have pioneers cdjs question I have my Serato DSI with Interface my computer stop working what happens to my Files if I by another computer how can I get my old folder back . I didn't back up my music so can I get my hardrive transferred and how can you please I feel useless without my music I hate to go back to analog and start using MP3s if I get a different computer do I have to start downloading the music all over yes or no can you help me thank you so much
what stand are you using for the XP2 please?
It's a tiny little one from Reloop (a bit too small to be honest for the unit).
Evening Phil,
I have 3 vinyl turntables and a Pioneer DJM-900NXS mixer that I want to hook up to the Serato software.
My questions are:
1. Does the Serato software support 3no. turntables (the images of the software I have seen seem to only show 2no. turntables)?
2. Is my only option the Rane SL3 (the Denon DJ DS1 is made for 2no. turntables only)?
Thanks!
I believe it is only possible to use two turntables with dvs, although you could use say four CDJs with HID. You don’t need a separate audio interface though, your mixer has one built in that will work with Serato and its Club Kit ExpansionPack.
@@digitaldjtips Thanks Phil.
how do i connect my mac to my mixer? i want to scratch music from my mac on the turntables but i only have 3 channels on the mixer
That's what we show you in this video!
Hi Phil, is this possible for the cdj 800mk2 using a rane SL1 interface?
No, the SL1 doesn't work with Serato any more unfortunately.
from Orlando
Hey :)
One thing to keep in mind is compatibility. Some gear is no longer supported by Serato and you have to use older versions of the software. Also, that older software may not be compatible for your laptop's OS. I am currently using an older MacBook Pro but the USB bus is too slow and sometimes causes the audio to skip. I want to use my new laptop but the only versions of Serato I can use on that laptop do not support the Serato Scratch Live that I have. Any advice?
As you say, SSL is so old now that it is pretty much unsupported, so no - unfortunately we do not have any advice here!
@@digitaldjtips Does the Denon DJ allow for through signal like the SSL? I want to be able to play digital files and my vinyl records.
searched for cheap dvs setup. greeted with a pair of technics 1200's
This is the wrong video for that, it's about turning the gear you've already got into a DVS setup (hence the title) :) What's your budget? Cheap and DVS don't really go together (imo) if you don't already have the gear
@@digitaldjtips already figured it out, 2x behringer UFO202's and $40 for the digital vinyl on amazon. Total price $80
So you do already have turntables and a mixer?
latest serato dj does it have vinyl scroll, to load next track like scratch live, love using it don't have to touch my lap top
Yes you can load tracks direct from most controllers
@@digitaldjtips but I cant use the vinyl to do it with serato dj, scratchlive lets you do it. I am using a normal mixer the same as in your video that has no controller in it, it needs to be in serato dj so when you place the needle at the end of the record groove it loads the next track.
@@digitaldjtips I find vinyl scroll faster then using a midi mixer to load the next track still, even though i don't have a midi mixer tried my friends midi mixer and it's slower by time you turn the knob and then press it, I want speed when mashing up tracks playing only 1 bar then dropping the next track when doing a mash up mix
I'm kind of getting the feeling here that I'm still better off getting a second hand CDJ with USB support and adding that to my traditional setup :) Also translates a little better experience-wise when you're playing something where there are both decks (becoming a rarity) and CDJs or just CDJs. You can't just bring that stuff and rig it up on the spot, depending on where you play, plus, you might not want it. So I'm sort of leaning towards get a decent second hand CDJ and ram it into the line in of one of the channels of your 2 channel (if you have a 2 channel HAK 360 for ex. like I do).
Yes this is very much aimed at older DJs who want to give digital a go, easy to setup at home and forget about it
What mixer is being used?
just install the soundcard INSIDE your favorite retro mixer of choice that's what I did in 2016 (Easy) one hour tops!
Nice!
I came here about changing my Vestax PDX-A2MK11 decks and Pro 6 mixer over. But have realised you can now buy a Pioneer DDJ rav 1 for £260.
Yes, modern gear starts pretty cheap!
"Browse like you're on Facebook." LMAO
Ha ha true though, right?
So the box is only for serato not rekordbox? I’ve got two t.62s and a djm mk 250… help 🥺😩
You can buy a Rekordbox DVS box too, if I remember rightly.
Not enough mentions of CD DVS. Lots of Pioneer CDJs out there gathering dust. And they’re way cheaper to maintain, more portable and don’t need overpriced stylus and cartridges.
What happens when the needle gets to the end of the vinyl, is it locked loop?
JubileeGiggles hey giggles. Yeah the vinyl keeps playing the tone over and over. I guess this is a fail safe, but you’ll likely never go past 15 minutes the control vinyl gives you.
It's a never ending vinyl. I've seen scratch records where a tone lasts forever. The grooves just connect back with each other like a train track joining back onto a line.
Where do the pins go in the back of the mixer
It's RCA cables, simply running from the channel outputs to the inputs on the soundcard you have - if you check the manual for it there is probably a diagram
How can i record with Denon DS 1 ? Thanks
What are you trying to record? Your mix? If so there is likely a record button in your software, that's the easiest way
do I need seato interface with the Serato djms9
No
Can I use this same process on windows?
Yes
Hey Phil ,any news on some ddj 600 or some "in between 400-800" model from pioneer any rumours meaby ?
I don't have turntables anymore and I don't want to spend too much on ddj800 simultaneously ddj 400 is tad to small for my needs secondly I really like the design language of ddj line so other brands just don't interest me tbh .
Tnx ,keep a good work 👍
No but it seems likely doesn't it?
@@digitaldjtips yeah, I think there is still place there for another one in 400- 500€ mark (preferably 400 ;) Im waiting for it since April ,I may be pulling the trigger on 400 I just don't want wait any longer but knowing my luck 600 will come out shortly after my purchase 🤣
I have had my t440 thinkpad tested with recordbox and it works like a charm very happy about that ,tbh I just can't believe how industry moved forward since first dvs systems came out and now such a portable controllers with many great features coming from many sources ,I wish to have ddj with moving platters that would be the dream for me but that would be too good to be true ;)
Tnx for answering!
That's always the concern, you buy something then something new and shinier comes out lol
@@digitaldjtips kinda yeah ;) I have found used 400 for price a tad bigger than new 200 In really good condition (with recordbox) can't wait to get it ,I may be switching layer on if that will be to small for hopefully 600 in near future.
The 400 will keep you going for now, it's a great little controller
How can I play my original vinyl once serato is set up? I want to avoid disconnecting cord’s from serato each time I switch to oldschool vinyl
Switch the mixer to phono - should be easy.
@@digitaldjtips I figured it out on Serato, you leave everything as us but on Serato you go from selecting ‘absolute to through’ then your original 80s/90s vinyl plays through digital line not phono.
do you control the pitch on the deck of the laptop, or both?
If you mean the speed of the track, you control it using the pitch controls on your turntables.
@@digitaldjtips perfect, thanks.
What is the track on deck A?
Unreleased unfortunately :)
Does this work with any mixer?
It does :)
Will it work with Traktor as well?
I have cdj1000 mk1's and djm900's. what would my setup be?
No it wouldn't
I was going to get a Denon or Rane Serato box. But while I was saving for it my dad took the families laptop to be fixed & for some reason he told the guy to delete everything from the hard drive! I had thousands of songs downloaded from iTunes, now they’re gone down the Swanee! And since I’m not very technically minded I didn’t have any of them backed up (still don’t even know how to do that). Now I’m saving for a laptop of my own so I can start from scratch. This all happened months ago & I’m still fuming about it 😠
Oh no :(
@They Caged Non really? Do you know how I’d do that? I’ve no idea 🤷♂️
@They Caged Non thanks, I’ll check that out 👍
Can I connect cdj 850 with this system in setrato or rekordbox?
Yes, you can use CDJs instead of decks.
Might as well buy a Newmark scratch be cheaper option with full control
Especially nowadays, as the DS1 is not made any more.
Hi Phil,
Doug my SL2 box out recently and decided to use it again after 5 year hiatus or so. Thing is I'm trying to run it with (of course 2 turntables and a Mac pro Big unfortunately I cannot make it work due to GOD knows mistake i'm making. I think it might be a clash between SL2 and Mac OS pro but my knowledge is limited. Can you help ? Please tell if downgrading system is required or whateva. All the best. Thanks Sergio
Pretty sure SL 2 no longer supported in latest macOS. Serato site will have the answer.
Hi I still are using older gear
Nothing wrong with that :)
Mixxx, a £25 pair of serato control vinyls and a second hand audio interface, you're sorted....
Definitely a good cheap way to get started :)
@@digitaldjtips Mixxx is the first program of this type I've ever used (been spinning vinyl since the 90's) and I must say I'm really impressed. Quantized looping is fun :)
Glad to hear it!
@@digitaldjtips controller next so I can mix tunes when I'm away from my technics...
What are you thinking of getting?
You can buy a serato sp1 second hand for about £70 or a reloop neon £40 second hand or the pioneer Reckordbox ddj xp1 second hand for about £130.. all cheaper depending on wants & needs
Thanks for sharing :)
Actually get the Akai AMX mixer and it’s wayyyy cheaper!
You’ll need an additional licence to use the Akai. Denon DS1 is plug and play, no additional licence needed to unlock Serato DJ Pro
Benny Gogz yes if you want to use with vinyl dvs records. But just alone it comes with Serato
Technics mixer came out in the mid 90’s not the 80’s.
Ha ha maybe it did, it's all ancient history to my old fangled brain... ;)
@@digitaldjtips It was my first serious mixer, I bought it in, I believe, 1997 or 1998.
*Niels de Wit* apparently there was a ‘hidden’ feature on that mixer. If you turned the low eq down, the high acted like a high & low pass filter, the likes of which are found on today’s’ mixers!
"CHEAP" proceeds to pop $300 worth of external audio and an external controller xD
There is no cheaper way
@Digital DJ Tips I came across this guy & his videos about maintaining Technics. Here’s one he came up with for a cheap timecode setup m.ua-cam.com/video/D1i7XSZjaV4/v-deo.html
You want to use buttons buy some dicers.
Good tip :)
SL1 for $50 or SL2 for $150?
Definitely the SL2, I don't even think the SL1 is supported any more.
@@digitaldjtips Ok no wonder the SL1 is so cheap. Guess I have to save up unless you have an extra one laying around you want to give me. lol
Afraid not!
I am super confused. I subscribe to this channel because of future music and gear, and yet your new tip is telling people the very first version of digital DJ that there ever was? Those boxes have been around longer than your channel.
We welcome new community members all the time, and many already own decks and want to use them digitally. We try and cater for all of our audience in out weekly tips, so sorry you didn't like this video Anna.
When I saw the video, I thought thete was an issue with youtube date's display