The most POPULAR DJing set-up right now 👉 7 types to choose from..
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
- Back in the "old days" it was all so simple - You had two turntables and a mixer - but these days there's so much gear to choose from! Here's a breakdown of the seven most popular ways DJs like to spin their music..
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Phil - Bravo!!! Will share this video w/DJ friends from my gen. Much better than me trying to explain. In my 60s, club/radio DJ '70s-'90s. I retired, bought a controller, and was LOST, CLUELESS! Have taken several of your courses, and this old man is now doing a club (special events/occasions), private events/parties, and charity fundraisers (1k+ attending).
Glad to hear it Larry!
Oh man, when you show No. 7 I feel appreciated and a smile was put on my face in all honesty, I've been DJing with my phone for almost 5 years with edjing first then WeDJ but always looked down on and I feel like I'm not different from every other DJ around the world, thank you so much for making this video :)
you're welcome, LOADs of people do it!
yup. as a mobile guy who does weddings, i use a phone with algoriddam to do outdoor ceremonies. usually only need some filler, and the ceremony songs. why bring a more for that?
a phone also works as a backup of necessity songs which i can use in case of emergencies.
Anybody doing this on Android, or is this Apple only?
@@bart2019 Android user here
@@digitaldjtips Phil, as a hobby I started with Djay Algoriddam on my Iphone and Ipad and even bought your "how to Dj on ipad and iphone tips e-book" ( I think it was $4.99 like 8 years ago) . Then moved on (still as hobbie ) to controller and laptop..... but still love my phone app... feels like fun everytime I do it as.. i can do bluetooth to a main speaker and it links to all other speakers... ok mixing is on the fly but fun galore to be anywhere in the party to mix..... of course the DJ-200 can be connected if you want to make sure to mix properly....
Very and i mean, VERY informative. Thanks A LOT Digital DJ Tips.
You’re welcome!
Awesome video. A lot of info for anyone trying to get into DJing
Glad this is helpful!
Very insightful and informative! Thank you!
Glad this helped
Thanks for breaking all this down…and explaining what the heck a CDJ was. Been watching YT DJs for a year and haven’t understood what the hell a cdj was until now. 😆
You're welcome!
I asked about this last week! Great video and really well explained. Great work DDT
You may well have been the inspiration Chris!
@@digitaldjtips I feel very privileged! Lol! There isn’t anything online that explains all this so glad you done it, just what I asked for! Number 7 made me laugh, iPhone was a nice touch
Great informative Video Phil thank you and very timely as I have a friend looking to get started so I have shared it with him. Saves me presenting a then to now lesson 🤣
Glad it was helpful Robbie!
Great video!
I'm proud of you! Thanks!
Glad to help
I have the Denon P4 & have never looked back. No risk of laptop freezes or hassle. Perfect for the mobile DJ.
Yes, you're right, it's just about the perfect mobile DJ unit.
Must admit the P4 and I got off to rocky start 6 months ago but the old Pioneer controller is still leaning up against the wall today as I become more comfortable with P4 the more I use it. Certainly has some great advantages being mobile.
Always inspirational 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Glad this was useful
The Rev7 and a laptop is my goto and grail setup. I love it.
It is certainly a great fun way to DJ.
Cool Video! Thanks for making it! I used Mixmeister Pro 6 for many many years. Not many people used it because it took a learning curve. Most people would have gotten bored with it and given up trying to learn how to use it. I felt like it was way ahead of some of the DJ Software that was out there. For starters, it could play videos back in the early 2000s. It was super easy to use once we got the hang of it.
Thanks for sharing, Phonamana. That is definitely another way to DJ :)
DJs nowadays also brought their DJ controller to a club to play on, the controllers really dominate nowadays and the mobility level has expanded throughout the days
Yeah, that is definitely happening more than ever, with clubs just offering an "empty table" and only rolling out the CDJs if asked.
@@luckyluk2864it's not like a band turns up and has to play a beat up guitar and drums. The old logic of having to be able to use any awful half broken old CDJ is stupid
@@luckyluk2864 my "whole setup" weighs about 1/10 of a large box of 12" records
@@luckyluk2864 no I just use whatever awful rubbish they have, I'm just saying it doesn't make sense when everyone has better quality gear at home.
Great video Phil. Technology is ever evolving if you don't adapt you will be left in the dust.
Indeed, thanks for your feedback Chris.
Hi Phil. I love your recommendation at the end: get a dj controller & use it with a laptop. I’m still using vinyl but I’m dying to go digital. Mixing vinyl is fun but it can get quite boring. I really want to go digital & explore loops, fx, slicer & all the other creative goodness that digital can bring! 👍
Hope you manage to get one :)
Amazing review of the complex world that DJs find themselves in! I came here to gain some insight on how to equip a radio station. I like the takeaway reccomendation of, get a controller. Thank you sir!
Glad it was helpful!
In the techno scene. I used saw quite lots of small controllers like NI Z1, X1, F1 or Xone K1/K2 being used. This was way before I finally decided to learn how to DJ myself when Covid started. Now I have grown to love the Xone K2. When I'm at home, I can use it as a supplemental controller beside the DDJ-400 in RekordBox (brilliant way to control all the FX1 and FX2 and sampler parameters). But I can also just as easy run it with only the laptop, K2 and my Minirig and go outside play some tunes while travelling relatively light.
Then there are also Ableton Live "DJ's" out there.
Yes we did think about including what we call “modular DJing”. Thanks for bringing it up.
@@digitaldjtips YES...LOVE IT!!!
Personally, I like the CDJs the best. I started on two turntables, went to controller (DDJ 1000) then a stand alone (Prime 4) then a CDJ set up. The two CDJs and a mixer give me the closest feeling to the old two turntables and a mixer back in the day.
Not been tempted to return to turntables?
Beatport
Hi Phil! I'm a laptop dj - used to feel self conscious using only a laptop to club and private party gigs, but if the crowd doesn't care and love how u make them feel, then who cares 😁. I feel vindicated hahaha. However, i just bought the dj inpulse control 500 from hercules, and can't wait to master it 😁😁
Good to have the best of both worlds, two choices!
great vid phil I want to add the traktor x1 z1 f1 to the list its still going till this time.
thank you so much for making this video
Yeah should have included that type of DJing we call it “modular”
I bought all 3 and Traktor pro 3 just last year. I got all 3 off of eBay for around £100 bucks each. Since it's just a hobby for me.
Really good stuff
Thanks Allan!
Great video! Still using my Technics today, but with DVS (Serato), now. I'm surprised there was no mention of the Novation Dicers with option #2 as that was the start of cue-point triggering, looping and slicing. Thanks for sharing!
Indeed it was!
I've definitely went overkill with a pair of SC6000s, Xone DB4 and Mk2 1210's. Bit much for a home setup but hey, I've been at it 30 years and that's what I wanted
Any why not? :)
I started on a controller with serato, then a prime go, then a prime 4 and now I’ve sold them all and bought a pair of technics 1210’s and a xone mixer and just use vinyl. I don’t play in clubs instead I stream on twitch. I just love mixing using vinyl so much more than digital.
I know what you mean, and if this is a hobby, why not do exactly what you love? For working DJs though, vinyl is usually not practical for the reasons mentioned. Thanks for sharing Saint Steve!
@@digitaldjtips exactly, it’s a hobby and a passion and I treat it as such. DJing is an amazing creative outlet and spending time searching for records in shops or on line is part of the fun for me.
I wish I had found this video a few years ago when I was trying to decide what my set up would be - but thats half the fun too! With all of the research I did, I came to the same conclusion.... Controller and laptop every day. I do like Vinyl however and the conroller that I have (Mixars Primo) allows two phono inputs so you can play regular records or play around with the control vinyl either... if you already have decks, make sure your controller will take them... well worth it. Thanks Phil... you featured in my research too :D
70% of DJs use controller and laptop nowadays.
Amazing
6th option for the win.
I use to do this when Ableton became a thing. Cheap firewire interface, 10+ channels of tracks, effects, drum loops, basslines, sends, samples. And to make it all legit looking, I would bring a few weird ass vynils to spin here and there, use a a 25keys midi controller mapped to random things and a hardware gaget or two ( gameboy, arkaos, whatever).
How to go back to the archaic hardware DJ setup after tasting that much possibilities.
The only problem is that a setup like that keeps you really busy so you better bring a hypeman, have a crowd with more ears than eyes and maybe have some visuals going.
I came back to it in the last year playing a couple parties and all I used was a live mixer/controller and a laptop.
It's nice to be able to chop and change depending on the circumstance and on how you feel
8. The eighth way is Dj'ing with Ableton. When CDs phased out, I decided to switch my mindset and use Ableton only, without decks or a mixer in the middle. i'm not sure if it was the smartest move, as challenging and daunting as it was, but it forced me to think different about how to mix. Creativity was the advantage, but the disadvantage was losing the hands on feel and control of the ones and twos. However, I did recently buy a controller to marry it all together.
Yeah, we saw it rise and fall in popularity, I struggle to name a single DJ who does it this way nowadays.
@@digitaldjtips deadmau5 🤔
@@DmitryInNz not a DJ, producer and artist. Name an open format dj who uses ableton
Reinier Zonneveld🙌🙌🙌
@@SLIC3R2 didn't call him open format. But check out his test pilot sets, he doesn't just play his own stuff.
I'd play that Serrato control vinyl as my last song. It's a right banger!
I've seen people dancing to car alarms, so yeah anything goes!
Very great and highly recommended Video! Well done! Well done! :) FR
Thank you very much!
Mainly use ableton to preform/DJ. However I’ve been getting into using Traktor with a TouchOSC setup instead of a physical controller. Feels at home to
How I preform in ableton but let’s me do more set switch ups on the fly. Only issue I’ve been having is getting “cue” to work without running headphones out of a physical controller
You're definitely in a minority there Hunter, but there are a few Ableton DJs in our community.
Started with vinyl, switched to CD's when pioneer released their CDJ range. After that I switched to a computer, first with DVS and after a few years a controller. But after a few years I got really bored with playing digital. You don't have to put out any effort to mix records. I even tried DJ'ing with Traktor and Ableton connected but everything is so perfect it just bores me. Plus music on beatport is so cheap in comparison to vinyl that you just start buying too much music. I started to lose the fire inside of me... So I switched back to vinyl. It made me a better selector. Vinyl isn't cheap so you buy only what you like. You have to work every mix to get it right. I just love it. On gigs I don't always play on vinyl. Sometimes it's a stick and Pioneer CDJ's.
Thanks for sharing that journey with us!
Great video, I did not consider the phone option before - that would be a fun alternative for when I need to scratch my mixing itch
Oh yeah, it's super addictive once you get started, especially with streaming services.
Also a backup if your primary goes down.
I've used turntables, CD's, CDJ's, mini disks, VHS & Beta video music, just the computer & keyboard, cassettes, reel to reel and one time an 8 track tape player because the song I needed I only had on an 8 track. Basically, if it was a form of recorded music, I've DJ'd with it. I may even have to try a couple gramophones side by side :)
That was how it all began (gramophones side by side)…
Hi Phil, great video as usual.
What laptop do you use please?
Cheers.
MacBook Air
good episode!
Thanks
HI personaly I use Phase system on my serato's timecode It's wicked
Love the breakdown. I’ve seen some DJs with no CDJ or mixers but instead use several boxes that looks like a series of performance patches. What are those?
Yes we should have included this - basically mini controllers, related to the “controller and laptop” method
Great vid, I use my controller, computer and phone to DJ!!! I love the phone app it has some really good stuff on it to use💪🏻
What role does your phone play? Control surface?
Yeah, there are some great phone apps!
It’s def fun mixing on the phone. Friends always trip out when I throw down a 20 minute set from my phone. LoL. Kinda difficult but fun.
@@IamPreacherMan I do in work at the end of the shift 👍🏻👍🏻
Excellent job!!!But how about sound quality???is there huge difference between the setups or not??
More money = better audio. But even the cheapest audio interfaces sound pretty good in today's gear.
That laptop only technique is interesting. I've seen a resident bar DJ do it, pretty good also. Laptop and a mixer (for the output)... straight mix, no scratching.
It is pretty easy once you get the hang of it.
When I want to DJ at home on my chair, I grab my galaxy tab and mix my FLAC songs with Cross DJ. It's great fun, no sync button, just mix away. I paid for the full version and it's not a subscription. Great effects. Cheers
Thanks for sharing!
Is there another audio interface that I could purchase besides the one you’ve mentioned, which would also allow me to basically just utilize my laptop without a controller so I can plug my headphones in and here the alternate channels
Nice 👍👍 one Phil
you're welcome!
Greta video. Thanks. I'm a Denon man here! :-)
Good choice Damelos.
I've gone from turntables and vinyl to dvs then controller and back to turntables vinyl and Rotary mixer. I'm obviously old and can't break free lol. Still watch all your vids though 👍👍
Know the feeling ;)
@@digitaldjtips I'm curious if you was me and still needed a way of playing digital files along with vinyl. How would you go about it. Soley on sound quality. Maybe a cdj pioneer/Denon?. I don't play clubs just do my own thing so doesn't matter on brand. Like you mentioned so much music out there not on vinyl plus as you know digi music way cheaper. I'm just not sure which way to go. Thanks
My setup consists of DDJ-1000, with one CDJ-3000 hooked up to channel 3, and one Technics Turntable on channel 4. Turntable is just for kicks and on rare occasion to test myself if I still remember how to use them 😂. I got just one CDJ-3000 in case I return to playing at a clubs and I won’t have a learning curve on the spot. Although I realize that hooking up my CDJ on HID mode limits my function on the CDJ-3000 screen, which means there will be some learning curve afterall.
Sounds like you have it all thought through though…
@@digitaldjtips haha I try but I’m sure every club setup has their surprises. 😂
DDJ 400/800 is the best move .portability is everything
It's definitely one of the big benefits of controllers.
I would go Rev1 since it has 4 decks! And integrated mic audio interface
I have tried using a phone but hate it and I don't like just using a computer. I got a Hurcules impulse 200. It is tiny and trying to manually beat match is nearly impossible but it is a good start point. My computer was £50 including lcd monitor and controller was £100 and I got a 100w Panasonic hifi system secondhand for £20. That is £170 and I use Mixxx software which is free. I previously had 2 x numark turntables with a Citronic Pro 2 mixer and that ended up being about £250 about 5 years ago all second hand.
The best thing about controllers is that they have zero latency on the jog wheels and it still feels very similar to using vinyl. The technology is insane these days with key lock, quantize and actually being able to create crates and organise your music.
Yes, you can certainly do a lot with cheap controllers!
Hello, thank you. Clearly, no need to get big controller and complicated stuff
Glad it helped
There is a video of Kerri Chandler DJing with cdjs but also with a bunch of reel to reel players I've never seen one before that. Jonathan Peters is another unique dj using Elektron samplers and a rotary mixer.
Greg Wilson dabbles in the reel to reels, too, in the UK.
@@digitaldjtips I think it just looks really cool. Would love to try a reel to reel
A budget XDJ -XZ = DDj SX + MS Surface PRO 3-4 + Tablet bracket.
to be honest phone I don't go for but any other controller I can work with because I am DJ and have to be ready to work with any . if you guys remember Gemini and pyramid were first around to make the mixers and they were great and people used them in DJ Boths all over. I remember I did a rave party in NYC and my mixer was Gemini626 if you remember I rocked it , and had some people ask after what mixer you got and they were surprised that it was a Gemini. so the point is if you know what you doing you can rock the party even with a Gemini.
I remember too! Soundlab belt drive turntables and Gemini mixers...
It's not just a hobby, it's a way of life!!
"Once a DJ, always a DJ..."
Which app he is using on his phone?
I'd be super curious about a top 5 of controllers list for Djay Pro AI for iOS. Algoriddim released a game changer here. I am wondering if a Rane One works as good with an iPad as with a laptop with Serato (maybe slightly less features).
Thanks for the idea!
Two Turntables and a mixer with vinyl is the truth, DVS is the closest to the truth, and battle dj's represent the truth better than any one in the industry. Controllers are toys, and are ruining the artform. The Digital era has stolen the learning curve right out of it period, thats why there are 10 million "dj"s out there now who have skipped the whole learning process, dj'ing soley with thier eyes, throw them in front of a vinyl set-up and they are lost. People need to learn how to walk before they can run. Proper dj'ing that separates the real ones from the wannabe's is what makes dj'ing a true instrument with a learning curve the same as learning a traditional instrument like a guitar, specially so battle dj'ing. Now the artform is oversaturated and watered down from the digital era. The least we can do to keep it real is use a DVS set-up, gives you best of both worlds, and keeps the "art" in the form. Fuck controllers and cdj's, both have diluted our artform that alot of us have cut our teeth on, now any tom dick and harry can spend a month on a controller/cdj and call themselves a dj....
Thanks for sharing your views, T K.
This is a bitter truth , now every other person with a dj controller and a laptop or a mobile phone with a smartwatch on the street is a Dj with a USB stick in his or her pocket . Now DJing is done with sound effects loops and preset cue points and even the new age commercial music has changed the way people used to dance ,now people wave with their finger and that's what they call dancing
If I had Kleenex, I would give you one
Super said. Look at those fake female djs...
Gee TK we’ve been here before, the argument is tired. As a DJ with 45 years experience, it would be too easy to slip in beside you and support the past but the truth is technology moves forward and why shouldn’t we use it to enhance our performance. The truth is that controllers (which aren’t toys) along with all the rest Phil mentions, are just tools, having a hammer doesn’t make one a carpenter. In my office, I no longer use calculators, I use spreadsheets and calculator apps on my pc. In my DJ work I use vinyl, DVS, laptops, controllers and standalone. My favourite is the Denon standalone P2 simply for the convenience. I still have 2000 vinyl records but being a vinyl DJ doesn’t make me any better than someone doing it a different way. Core skills are knowing your music, reading a crowd and putting the right music on at the right time, mixing and everything else is extra. Sure your preferred way of working is DVS and vinyl but that’s personal to you and doesn’t make you a ‘real’ DJ and someone with a controller not. Even with all the tech, most DJs will want to progress and learn all the skills including beat matching by ear etc. Let’s cut the elitist rubbish and embrace all who DJ with whatever tools they want to use.
i use the Rane 12 mk 2s and the Rane 72 mk 2 and i would use some Technics for vinyl but i need to get a new pair.Knowing me an older second hand pair as im not keen on the new models or a classic pair of Stanton str8s
Reloop RP7000s are very good.
Even though already 9month ago, very much appreciated for you to be doing this topic on the updates on what pros use to DJ!!!
My pleasure!
Not tried myself but you can also DJ in VR on Virtual Decks, there are even VR Clubs/Lounges/Rooms where you put on a event and people turn up Dance, Socialise all in VR. Its an actual scene :)
Yes, you can indeed, Tribe VR is one such system.
With regards to vinyl it depends on the genre you like. For instance the music I like is largely ONLY available on vinyl.
What is your favorite genre?
8 IF YOU INCLUDE A PAD CONTROLLER SUCH AS A LAUNCHPAD OR LIVID CNTRL:R
Shittin me? For digital vinyl setup what are all of the equipment in it?
good video but there is just one thing. you do need vinyl when using Phase. there are these stickers that are magnetic. You place the Phase transmitter on the sticker to keep the song from drifting...
Yes you're right, any old vinyl though of course.
Target & Wally's has a unexpected decent amount of collector-style vinyl. No 12" singles, haa!
Laptop stand?! 🔥 Link?
One big setup I miss, is the modular one. External mixers, effect units, combined with software controllers
Yeah, we missed modular out here for some reason. There are still many DJs doing that...
@@digitaldjtips would be nice if you do a video about it! I feel its the modern way of dj'ing right now
imma grab myself a digital vinyl / normal vinyl setup
Have fun!
2 Turn tables and mixer is making a come back.
Indeed!
My “audio interface” for connecting speakers and headphones to my computer at the same time is pretty gold plated, pretty rich blood, pretty boozhy, if you know what I mean.
I use the headphone out on my laptop and an Apple USB-C to headphone adapter for my speakers. It’s $9 and works great with djay Pro AI. On iPad, no such luck. I need an interface. Any recommendations?
Sounds good to me!
I'm old. Two turntables. DVS is fine. But interestingly, I dj hip-hop back in the day and these days I don't come across many actually proficient and high quality hip-hop dj's that can't use at best two turntables with timecoded records. I mean they can use the vinyl or time coded stuff. The controller only hip-hop guys generally seem to have suspect mixes. I'm guessing part of it is just they lack the experience hearing great mixing so they settle for crap.
Maybe.. Jazzy Jeff loves his DVS.
You didn’t talk about the combo X1/K2/F1 + Mixer ❤️
No, we did indeed miss modular set-ups out.
Old dj here, for me it was a huge mistake to try control vinyl. Take the plunge and get a controller and learn it inside out.
It can feel like the "worst of both worlds".
@@digitaldjtips exactly that hahaha.
Can you please make video about different modules, I want sell my cdjs and start djing in new level. Using drum machine, sequences etc...
Thanks for the idea.
@@digitaldjtips so I would very happy to find out what devices this best option to buy for beginner live dj...
What's a good laptop for serato lyte
Most will work fine, just not Chromebook.
Does the NI audio 2 still work with MacOS?
Yeah think so!
With the virtual DJ app which allows you to remotely play songs how far away can you be from the actual club
I want to be able to DJ from my house and have the virtual DJ set up at the bar
lol no idea
Hi Phil, It still baffles me why PioneerDJ doesn't integrate Rekordbox DJ Software with their Pro DJ Link hardware. Imagine if RBDJ could sync Beat Grid info straight from the RBDJ Software direct to the built-in powerful effects that live in the DJM Mixer? Merging both of Pioneer's DJ platforms would only strengthen and increase their market share of DVS/DJ Software, without damaging their hold on their industry standard top end gear. All Clubs and Festivals would still continue to use Pioneer's flagship standalone tech, while at the same time making the Rekordbox DJ software platform way more exciting! How many Serato DJ's use a Pioneer DJM Mixer? Answer... Loads! Now tell them RBDJ software sends beat grid info to their Pioneer DJM Mixer's FX... and overnight watch a huge shift over to PioneerDJ
Interesting idea Theo. Maybe they will one day...
CDJs revolutionised mobile DJing
they did indeed
Is it possible to use a dj controller and bypass the mixer section, just to use the actual media controllers ? I want to use them on a Urei 1620 but don't want to fork out the thousands it costs for digital media turntables.
You can use media players with any mixer you like, yes
@@digitaldjtips not the media players, such as the pioneer in the 2nd section, but I mean the all in one units from a later section. Is it possible to have the all in one unit and not use the mixer section : be mixing on the urei but using the controller to play digital files.
You are missing another way 4ch 19' rack mont Mixer laptop combo with a sl3 sound card
Am here wondering why you have to show pioneer Xdj Rx3 instead of Xdj XZ is that means rx3 is preferable or better than xz?
It is easier to pick up! 👍🤣
@@digitaldjtips thanks 😊. But if you are to pick one for a club/Bar use which way will you go?. Thanks again
No digital turntable like rane 12?
Basically, that is a big elaborate controller.
kinda weird to see you put phase onto the slip mat.. why you do it that way ? i have phase and TTs / serato, so i use that setup regularly. Why did you take the record off? or was that just to show the audience that you can play on anything that spins.. ??
Dunno really!
"It doesn't matter what's on the table, what matter is who's behind it".
Nice way of putting it Joe.
There is actually an 8th way to DJ, using sequencers, drumpads, keyboards and other audio modules live, but it is very niche. An example is how KiNK plays
Yes, a bit more than DJing but true!
That’s why I love the pioneer DJS 1000. Allows me to use all that with CDJs !
Not Djing more like live production. Nice try though.
That's not DJing
Use what you got! Go watch other DJs. Dj for people for free. Go get experience and you will learn fast. We all mess up but that’s what makes the journey beautiful. Share your experience to help others
Well said Mac
In Europe (in my country at least) just in one year all prices skyrocketed like 50% higher or more :(( it's getting almost impossible to buy any decent gear..
Yes, happening all over.
i know its expensive but so are guitars, drums and synthesizers..
Yup!
I always have people looking down on me for being a laptop DJ but it's the way I've done it for over 17 years:)
Nothing wrong with that Krissy.
cross dj is the better handy app
👍👍👍👍
You missed modulars, drum machines etc.
Yes, we did!
for real in 2022: CONTROLLERS ALL THE WAY!
You forgot 8-9, Cassette Tape and Reel to Reel Tape.
Or 10, 8-track.
Phase is overkill all this shit ur adding just u might as well get a rev7 or rane one
Phase is a lot cheaper. Not everytone can afford that.
There's actually an 8th type that you missed. DJing in virtual reality.
True!
Again with the legacy Pioneer stuff.
Where is the "Full review" of the Denon SC6000 that was announced over a year ago?
It costs only half of the pioneer setup and is way more advanced technologically.
That one slipped under the net! That said we have a full review of the 5000, and apart from the screen size there is little difference between them.