Rane SL3 is discontinued! is it the end of a ERA for Serato?

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @freddystefan30
    @freddystefan30 2 роки тому +7

    I still use SL3, and i don't wanna update. Sounds good, feet my needs, and focus is not for gear and technology. What I do for the crowd matters. Peace!

  • @djlala
    @djlala 5 місяців тому +1

    …you 100% right .. this was motivated to make them more money. Not including discontinue support Rane 61,62 - some older controller took the hit also … it’s spend money or get left behind …. I’m just gonna keep using my old stuff until can’t no more I don’t wanna keep chasing features .. function over feature at this point

  • @One_Man-No_Mission
    @One_Man-No_Mission 2 роки тому +4

    My SL3 is the piece of gear that brought me into the digital age. Before that I was only using analog gear. Never have and may never get into cdjs. I mean i had some software like virtual dj, pcdj, but never was it what I was able to use, be comfortable with, or willing to use on a live gig. The S.L. 3 bridged that gap for me. It will always hold a special place for me and can say for certain it was one of the major things that changed how djs perform their craft.

  • @psykophilz
    @psykophilz 2 роки тому +5

    I feel you bro! I still have my SL1. I used it for about 10 years plus and then upgraded the Traktor Pro 3. Nothing in between. Even though I have a new love for the Traktor ecosystem, I can't find myself to give my SL1 up. It brought me back to DJing when the cost of vinyl was too rich for my blood. I couldn't afford to keep up with the new music at the time. But with the SL1 I could spin my mp3 collection with DVS and my old turntable and mixer. A total game changer! Anyways just wanted to share my experience with you and my SL1. Keep up the good work with your channel.

    • @chrisjohnson8582
      @chrisjohnson8582 6 місяців тому

      Are you still using it, because I want to know if it can still have a life for something or someone else

  • @djhaloeight
    @djhaloeight 3 місяці тому

    I dual boot my mid 2010 MacBook Pro. The main boot is High Sierra, and my DJ partition is Snow Leopard with Serato Scratch Live 2.5. I noticed performance dropouts etc with newer Mac OS version. Although lately, I’ve been buying lots of vinyl and less digital.

  • @cabanu
    @cabanu 2 роки тому +2

    My first professional cd player was the Denon DN-2500f in 1999. I still have it 🎉

  • @ilikebassmusic
    @ilikebassmusic Рік тому

    9:20 question:
    Motorized platters with cue points on Numark V7’s. Yes, I bought two individual tanks because a mk1 NS7 was overkill to me.
    There was a roll function with the shift key plus loops. I could play the rolls and “slip” reverse/censor. Serato ITCH is godlike and my preferred toy is the Novation Twitch.
    Thanks for the video

  • @OlliC1981
    @OlliC1981 Рік тому +2

    Just reinstalled Windows 10 on my old Laptop to use my Rane SL2 just to find out that the newest Serato DJ Pro does not recognize it anymore. Its really a shame. Perfectly good hardware. Using the last supported version now (which is 2.5.5). I blame Rane for this more than Serato, because it is on Rane to make the Asio driver compatible with new Windows versions. Serato had no other option to drop it, when the Asio driver receives no updates.

  • @mathieuvandewildebergh3058
    @mathieuvandewildebergh3058 2 роки тому +2

    Ok, I need to work out a solution now. What are the options when you use an analog mixer and still want to use Serato?
    Or are y'all going to switch mixers with a built in audio interface?

  • @greatness3928
    @greatness3928 Рік тому +3

    Them boxes saved the dj game

  • @ojloera3306
    @ojloera3306 2 роки тому +2

    I have to agree. I purchased SL1 in 2006
    That brought me into Serato. Then got the Rane 57SL. Finally got the DJM 900srt
    Well looks like I will have to get a pioneer S11
    Ent of an era for sure.

  • @youlemur
    @youlemur 2 роки тому +1

    welcome to the club, we have been cancelled some years ago already, but the pain has not been forgotten nor forgiven
    yours truly Mac OS Catalina and SL2 owner (since its release)

  • @jgonz3542
    @jgonz3542 2 роки тому +4

    SL1 and SL3 bridged the gap from being a $hity Vinyl DJ to a DJ who had HOPE again....that taking another swing at spinning would be rewarding on a personal level. You called it "sentimental value" and dude...your right. you nailed it.

  • @ianbailey2127
    @ianbailey2127 Рік тому +1

    I agree 100%! My SL1 is old AF, but I love it and I refuse to sell it! I have moved on to other gear, but I bought it brand new back in '08 and I'm keeping it forever for the nostalgia. It would be cool if Serato did a firmware upgrade for it just for fun, I'd pay $20 for that for sure!

  • @grantleychance2301
    @grantleychance2301 Рік тому

    You are definitely not the only one wanting to have these devices working. Will love to use mine

  • @djeecee
    @djeecee Рік тому +1

    I have the latest version of serato dj pro, can i downgrade again to use it with the sl3 or will it work with the newest version? I´m planning to buy a secondhand sl3 to use with Phase. Thx for the answer!

  • @EmmitElliott
    @EmmitElliott 2 роки тому +1

    I still have my SL1 and SL2. Never got the SL3. I had a Traktor Scratch A6 and Stanton Final Scratch. But I have left DJing for a moment. I kept my records but sold my gear. The thing the brought me back was the Numark Mixtrack. It was weird because I never used CDJ. I went from vinyl to DVS to that controller. Now I own a Rane 70/Twelve setup. Still have tables and other controllers even phase but my go to are the Twelves.

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      I don't think I will ever sell my twelves no matter what I think I will at least keep one

  • @cabanu
    @cabanu 2 роки тому +1

    I'm still using my sl1 with my Denon dn-hc4500 as a backup. It still works fine with scratch live on Windows 10. 🎉🎉

  • @tonydjpower-nyclive8674
    @tonydjpower-nyclive8674 Рік тому

    Rane 2016.I need SL3 to use this Classic mixer

  • @dJBoog
    @dJBoog 2 роки тому +1

    I’m only a couple years in now but I know when I look back years down the road the prime 2 will be that thing for me.

  • @johnpartywhite9233
    @johnpartywhite9233 Місяць тому

    I think they discontinued it because it's too damn good!
    I still use mine, but I like the 3.2. Eventually, I'll upgrade.
    Nice video, my brother. I feel the same as you about the SL3

  • @Djjuancr
    @Djjuancr Рік тому

    Hoy es 15 de marzo del 2023, y hasta esta semana lunes 13 de marzo del 2023 empecé a usar la Pionner s11, Desde el 2006 utilizo serato Scratch live Y HASTA EL DIA LUNES la deje de usar, tenia el High sierra y el Scratch live instalado y todos estos años con mi caja SL1 y tambien sl3 hacia mis trabajo en fiestas y en la radio, por comprar la S11 de Pionner estoy obligado a cambiar sistema operativo y olvidarme de las 2 interfaces, y me siento triste y enojado de que las hayan sacado, Estoy de acuerdo contigo, y desacuerdo con Serato

  • @29dj17
    @29dj17 2 роки тому +1

    Sl3 saved my life too. I’m a hardcore turntable dj and sl3 saved my precious life.

  • @MrTurkeybags
    @MrTurkeybags 2 роки тому

    I have a 2015 with catalina for the new hardware compatibility. My sl2 will live forever because i have a 2012 13’ 2.9ghz i7 16gb ram 500ssd that i keep mountain lion osx on for connectivity to the sl1 sl2 sl3 57 etc. its a straight monster only reason i even upgraded was because it had no retina screen, would get hot af and main thing is i couldnt trust it using new osx so we wasnt able to update serato dj and could use cue points on new mixers and switching dj was harder

  • @DjKRuZe81
    @DjKRuZe81 2 роки тому +1

    I still have a pair of Numark TTX-USB decks. Can't sell em, I doubt I ever will. Lots of good memories on those decks. Also have a Z2 that I got day one. Again, will never sell it. Sentimental value on the old setup is too epic to depart from these.

  • @Stormf0rce999
    @Stormf0rce999 2 роки тому +11

    A real shame the SL3 has is no longer supported by Serato, had mine for years now, guess I will have to keep the current version and not upgrade to keep it still working fine.

    • @dj_solly3761
      @dj_solly3761 2 роки тому

      it still work with the latest version of serato

    • @dj_solly3761
      @dj_solly3761 2 роки тому

      i will have to cheack but the last time i used my sl4 was in 2022 jan so i will go sto my storage and get my djm 700 with my cdj 1000 mk3

    • @beatrocka5
      @beatrocka5 2 роки тому +1

      I haven't DJ'd in a while, and I just found this out AUG 2022!! I had to go back to an older version!

    • @Stormf0rce999
      @Stormf0rce999 8 місяців тому +1

      @@dj_solly3761 anyone running the current version of serato? Nervous to upgrade encase it screws thing up lol

  • @dricoirving3236
    @dricoirving3236 2 роки тому

    My SL1 box is the first set of gear I've bought along with my Pioneer 707 and CDJ 800MK2. I got the SL1 off craigslist and met the guy in a mall cafeteria for the exchange

  • @roccsterx
    @roccsterx 22 дні тому

    Thanks for the vid mate, IF you where to just try out the whole DVS thing, and you are running a Windows 10 and you could get the SL3 bundle for 40$, would you say it would be worth it (running it with Serato DJ Pro 2.5.5)?
    So hard to find any info on legacy stuff.
    Cheers!

  • @dricoirving3236
    @dricoirving3236 2 роки тому

    The SL1 was fine. I have the SL1,2 and a controller. Along with some CDJs. I'm getting back into djin and blown to find out the boxes are discontinued

  • @mike._.feliciano6782
    @mike._.feliciano6782 2 роки тому

    The SL3 and my Denon X600 mixer is what kept me going. I still have my X600 but got rid of the SL3 when I got my Rane 70. I thought about picking up the Denon S1, I think that's what their interface is called but they discontinued it so I may shop around for 1...juat in case I want to use my X600

  • @djjoeykmusic
    @djjoeykmusic 2 роки тому

    I agree, It has a purpose. Options are always good. Great video! Thank you

  • @djcruza
    @djcruza 2 роки тому

    R. I. P. SL2, 3 and 4 😢
    The first piece of equipment that set me off on my dj journey was the Final Scratch (the round one), then I moved onto the Final Scratch 2 Amp, which I used with Traktor. But then I managed to get hold of the SL3, that got me into the Serato ecosystem. I had that until I got a DJM S3. When I bought the Prime 4, I realised I missed the SL3, not that I needed it, but thought it would be good to have as a back up, so I got myself a SL2, which I still have now and I can use anytime with my 2012 Macbook Pro running Serato DJ Pro 2.5.5

  • @djpup7722
    @djpup7722 2 роки тому

    I even dismantled another SL1 and integrated the board into my Behringer 900 USB for the home rig

  • @djraytheonearuba6480
    @djraytheonearuba6480 2 роки тому

    i still got mine. i'm not letting it go.
    but i'm going get myself a new mixer. s11

  • @globalgrooves
    @globalgrooves 2 роки тому

    My SL2 was the best gear when i picked it up it gave back the feel of vinyl again still use it for special events and when i record my mix-tapes etc. What I don't understand that serato wont support anymore in windows 11 but the Denon DJ DS1 they do.

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      Its dumb even if they don't sell it you should be able to still use it

  • @djsubculture2111
    @djsubculture2111 2 роки тому +2

    I guess I won't be using a rotary mixer with Serato anytime soon. :(

  • @mrdee8686
    @mrdee8686 2 роки тому

    A lot of DJs do not want to carry the heavy stuff no more and the computer software help them mix I like to mix on my own I don't use sync and all the equipment do the same thing unless you have a new software it just the new software all effect on update software

  • @DBLG65
    @DBLG65 2 роки тому +1

    I messed around and upgraded my Mac to Monterey that's how I found out. Had to buy a Denon DJ DS1. Hard to find and folks are jacking up the price. I think it's a dumb Idea. Especially for folks who like old school analog mixers.

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      How much is the denon going for now? They should at least give people away to keep using the boxes even if they have to pay for a update.

    • @DBLG65
      @DBLG65 2 роки тому

      @@DJKeo The box is actually discontinued, but it's still supported by Serato, at least for now. I believe there's one on Ebay now for close to $650. What other choice do you have if you purchase a new MacBook? For some reason the Denon box causes a little light to appear in the upper right hand cor of Serato. Just the way it is.

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      @@DBLG65 it annoys me that the SL3 is perfectly capable but they are choosing to discontinue it

    • @patrickyore
      @patrickyore 2 роки тому

      @@DJKeo SL4 also gone

  • @MikeStoan
    @MikeStoan 2 роки тому

    My Torq box and still use it as a sound card.

  • @EddieChambers-bb9gw
    @EddieChambers-bb9gw Рік тому

    Its a shame you cant use older mixers... Vestax, UREI, Bozark, a lot of quality mixers old and newer ones as well

  • @h-dawg969
    @h-dawg969 3 місяці тому

    I have recently got my 1210s serviced after having them away in the attic for years. If I buy a second hand SL3 will it be all good? I have 1210s and Xone 92

    • @althepal8018
      @althepal8018 12 днів тому

      so did you find a version ...my MacBook was messing up didnt have enough juice to handle it now got a new one in may and now there no version

  • @oldstyleanalog6459
    @oldstyleanalog6459 Рік тому

    I'm with u.i installed the software that I bought and it works.i use a behringer ddm 4000 and that's all I need.with dicers.Caveman parts but I'm djing

  • @gameandbros5462
    @gameandbros5462 2 роки тому

    In 2019 I found myself getting into listening to vinyl. I felt like it was more "actively" listening to music flipping records and moving the tonearm. My wife brought a cheap player from Walmart that broke after a few weeks. A month in with a crate full of 12" and 45s I'm already invested in the hobby. On FB marketplace I brought a pair of Stanton Str8 80s for about $250, And said "Fuck it! Its covid and I aint doing shit anyway" grabbed a mixer (Numark m2) and taught myself how to beat match on my 12" & 45s. After a year of learning on those my natural progression was the SL1 cause they were still pretty expensive right up until they were discontinued.

  • @djojd-realmccoy5593
    @djojd-realmccoy5593 7 місяців тому

    Great Video. Good Nuggets. SL 1 is still a bad ass. SL 4 is still great too. I don't know why I have to let it go.

    • @althepal8018
      @althepal8018 12 днів тому

      can I still get a version for the SL3 my Mac book messed up and didnt have enough juice so let it go for long time got a new Mac in may now this dont work or got a version

  • @donchilnerjr
    @donchilnerjr 2 роки тому

    As long as it works . Work it
    I had the sl 1. Number 16. Got it 1st day it came out. I than used 57. Than the sl3. As long as I have a 2018 or latter apple it works great. I use 2.5 so I can go on line.

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      I believe it's the next update after the current one which will stop supporting it. I'm going to stop updating unless the next update is so amazing I have no choice.

  • @randallgoeswhere
    @randallgoeswhere 8 місяців тому

    I just set my gear up after a few years and found this out the hard way. Wtf am I gonna do now?

  • @abrahamrios6541
    @abrahamrios6541 2 роки тому

    InMusic killed my DVS with Serato and now I use Traktor.

  • @djfrostwolf
    @djfrostwolf 2 роки тому

    Just keep using Scratch Live with my CDJ-350ties and DJM-800 /SL4. I din't get it why they discontinued the SL2/3/4 like you are. Out there are no supportet alternatives and the audio is like you Sayed still good. M4A, MP3, WAV, Flac, hasn't changed for a while too u know? ;-)

  • @mrcolemr
    @mrcolemr 5 місяців тому

    UPDATE ! UPDATE!! UPDATE!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @MiguelFernandez-br6mv
    @MiguelFernandez-br6mv Рік тому +2

    I am shocked to have supported Serato all these years, like so many other Sl3 owners i think it is, abysmal that a so called reputable company can just turn off the tap & expect there supporters to purchase more of there products. i cannot even use my old Numark Ns6 which pisses me off.

  • @daanaliza
    @daanaliza Рік тому

    I still have my Technics sl1200

  • @no.limittsmussbuss4051
    @no.limittsmussbuss4051 2 роки тому +1

    We spent so much money for SL 3 because it’s so unlike vinyl these new boards are crap

  • @IamMarkSmith
    @IamMarkSmith 2 роки тому +1

    Rane needs to release an SL5, but they would rather you buy an entire mixer just to have Serato functionality with DVS. No bueno.

  • @MilanFourTimesEight
    @MilanFourTimesEight 2 роки тому

    Cant sell my Traktor Audio4DJ although i own two of it. Haven't used them in a while as i also own two Traktor Z2s and a Reloop Elite which all have built-in soundcards.

  • @djvolkl
    @djvolkl 2 роки тому

    I hear u I still use when I use my other mixer that to bad

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому

      Don't update to the next version

  • @duma70
    @duma70 2 роки тому +4

    Can we hack it and keep using it 😵‍💫

  • @djpup7722
    @djpup7722 2 роки тому

    Meanwhile I still have the same SL1 I bought brand new 16 years ago as a teenager and run it in compatibility mode under Win7 JUST to still use my SL1 with scratch live 😅😅😅😅 I'm definitely not one of the ones holding onto old gear

  • @DJChrisCenzo
    @DJChrisCenzo 2 роки тому

    It’s a tossup between my sl3 (I have 2) and my Denon DN9000

  • @herk-dj
    @herk-dj 2 роки тому

    Piece of equipment, Kaoss Pad 2, sound 90s to me but I can not sell that, filters are what brought me all in! Won't sell my sl3 either haha

  • @jourdansungkar1430
    @jourdansungkar1430 6 місяців тому

    I got a SL 1 Rane Scratch Live for free as a giveaway with some technics. I wanna get it working!!

  • @kenshiroFNS
    @kenshiroFNS Рік тому

    I just bought a new laptop with windows 11 and serato 2.5.5. worked. Then I did an update on my laptop and now Serato isn't working. Any suggestions on what I should do? Apparently Windows 11 doesn't work with 2.5.5. but it worked when I took the laptop out of the box 🙈

    • @OlliC1981
      @OlliC1981 Рік тому

      Install Windows 10 and hope it does not Auto-Update to Windows 11 😆

  •  2 роки тому +1

    Kinda happy , stops all these new gen kids that ain't got a clue , good move

  • @sudeepk.6960
    @sudeepk.6960 2 роки тому

    I still have my Sl1 , sl4 and 2
    Looking to buy a sl3 just to have 😂

  • @georgioocean7629
    @georgioocean7629 Рік тому

    They’re losing a customer because these boxes are expensive then and there’s no need for them to change the software. They should’ve given it to you when u buy the unit.

  • @DJChrisArgueta
    @DJChrisArgueta 2 роки тому +1

    I would pay $25 for an updated driver, every couple of years.

  • @kennizuka758
    @kennizuka758 2 роки тому

    do they still update sl4?

  • @mrdee8686
    @mrdee8686 2 роки тому

    I still have my box and my software I'm not going to never get rid of it all that s*** do the same thing only thing different is the sound effects that's a good box people don't like all the wires in the back and I had most of everything new pioneer I use either one you get the job done they can keep on making all they want they ain't going to stop nothing here and to all the DJs use what's best for you everybody can't be like everybody take it for your friend DJ and good luck

  • @djtheob01
    @djtheob01 2 роки тому +1

    The SL1 Sounded like hot garbage compared to the SL3/4 and even in 2022 the SL4's converters are still industry standard (24-bit / 48 kHz or 96 kHz) apart from the Pioneer CDJ-3000 (32-bit) All Rane had to do is charge a licence fee every 1 or 2 years to continue support for SeratoDJ Pro. When I bought my SL4 £769.00 I thought I would have Serato updates for life, my SL4 is now on eBay. I won't be buying any Rane hardware again! Traktor is way more powerful and still the King of DJ software imo.

  • @skandral1339
    @skandral1339 2 роки тому

    its a shame because we people with not much money can pick them up cheap as chips . and get back into djing

  • @davidstanley8459
    @davidstanley8459 2 роки тому

    the unsupported rane sl 2/3/4 and denon dj ds1 are a great loss as primary interfaces not just for DVS but most importantly that it activates the midi functions in Serato DJ pro without it external controllers are not an available option , serato needs to unlock the audio / midi panes in dj pro just like serato studio this should be in 3.0 or as an expansion pack for Serato DJ pro ,
    a have numerous midi controllers supported by serato none of which can control or connect to dj pro without an additional primary interface , also also if I wish to send audio from the virtual decks a / b to a dj mixer or a mixing desk as decks a / b 4 separate channels. this is not possible,
    don't get me wrong I love 2.6 & 3.0 but without the ability to control and route audio and midi to what ever sound system is available it is not a viable system , of course there is the current supported hardware , quickly discontinued and unsupported route by rane, serato and others ,
    this is not a solution to the initial problem, they should all take a long look at Traktor and others with their universal approach to connect ability,

  • @nourdinh.1450
    @nourdinh.1450 2 роки тому

    I Selling my SL3 for 3 Days why i bought A Macbook Air 2020 😥😔

  • @volmarj.stephane5127
    @volmarj.stephane5127 2 роки тому

    also the #NumarkV7 got discontinued

  • @patrickyore
    @patrickyore 2 роки тому

    I left serato and moved to dvs on rekordbox

  • @bboymac84
    @bboymac84 2 роки тому

    What’s your DJ drop fx Keo??🤔🤔

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому +1

      what do you mean

    • @bboymac84
      @bboymac84 2 роки тому

      @@DJKeo like “ DJ Keo on the beat” sample

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  2 роки тому +1

      @@bboymac84 I had a couple of you are now listening to DJ Keo I got some girls to record them for me

    • @bboymac84
      @bboymac84 2 роки тому

      @@DJKeo nice!!

  • @aarondavidson6060
    @aarondavidson6060 2 роки тому

    and when the end a controllers mixers etc. and looks in this graveyards and yes this is a powerfull in past but once end thats it because 2 tt and mixer or 2 player is a rule and ears not eyes

  • @gamingheadztvMediaHeadztv
    @gamingheadztvMediaHeadztv 2 роки тому +1

    Vdj supports it

  • @danield_sounds
    @danield_sounds 2 роки тому

    The irony is , you can’t use SL3 with updated Serato DJ but you can with updated Rekordbox… shame on Serato !

  • @thisall4real
    @thisall4real 2 роки тому

    Sucks whats happening...
    Ive got 64 n 62 and both now wont work on win10 after windows updates.
    Also just got new laptop with win11 and was thinking it would run serato great with low latency....boy was I wrong....no support so won't work at all.
    Bad bad bad rane/serato

    • @kenshiroFNS
      @kenshiroFNS Рік тому

      I just bought a new laptop with windows 11 and serato 2.5.5. worked. Then I did an update on my laptop and now Serato isn't working. Any suggestions on what I should do? Apparently Windows 11 doesn't work with 2.5.5. but it worked when I took the laptop out of the box 🙈

    • @thisall4real
      @thisall4real Рік тому +1

      @@kenshiroFNS duel boot it with a win 10 partition for serato

    • @kenshiroFNS
      @kenshiroFNS Рік тому

      @@thisall4real thanks for the reply. I ended up uninstalling serato and rane (the drivers I believe). Then reinstalled and now it works, with Windows 11. I'm so confused lol. I don't know how it's working but thank God

    • @kenshiroFNS
      @kenshiroFNS Рік тому

      @@thisall4real I also deleted Virtual DJ. Do you think it might have been the cause and interfered with Serato? Its either that or because I did a Windows update

    • @thisall4real
      @thisall4real Рік тому

      @@kenshiroFNS what hardware are you using? Im sure older rane stuff wont work after win10(certain build)

  • @georgioocean7629
    @georgioocean7629 Рік тому

    I accidentally updated it and now it’s a paperweight

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  Рік тому

      Reloop has come to the rescue with a solution

    • @georgioocean7629
      @georgioocean7629 Рік тому

      @@DJKeo thank you

    • @OlliC1981
      @OlliC1981 Рік тому

      @@DJKeo What is the solution?

    • @DJKeo
      @DJKeo  Рік тому

      @@OlliC1981 reloop has a replacement interface

    • @althepal8018
      @althepal8018 12 днів тому

      anyway to get a version for sl3

  • @abrahamrios6541
    @abrahamrios6541 2 роки тому

    Numark NS7II and Serato Scratch.

  • @macognia82
    @macognia82 2 роки тому

    As costumer perspective, you should be able to use something that still works and you actually paid for it. That should give you the right to use something until it brakes down. I feel like it's almost like a slap on the face when companies do stuff like this, make their products obsolete so you keep consuming their newer products it is a bad strategy for loyal customers that have been there since the beginning. That's the same reason why I bought scratch in the beginning because I wouldn't want to give up on vinyl.

  • @ericburgos
    @ericburgos 2 роки тому

    WHATUPDOE