Small little correction: The Cell Jr.s are not Cell's own completely original creation. They are something he can create because of the Namekian DNA in him. Making them another aspect of him derived from the DNA used in his creation.
… all your explanation does is to clarify how they are Cell’s original creations… But you framed it as a correction, so your point confuses me. You didn’t bring correction, you brought clarification framed as correction which is dishonest at worst.
I love how the main theme of dragon ball seems to be that "power respects equal or greater power" and that strong individuals challenge each other with the protags providing "balance" to the world around them. Power when used the right way is for maintaining balance and peace. Not to destroy and subjugate. Which to be fair, is a theme in other stories. Edit: then again, that just shows how timeless dragon ball is.
Ehh, so it is just the reiteration or maybe in DB case, creation of the anime logic of power respects power instead of radical respect and acceptance for everyone unless utterly not possible, which seems to be worthy of striving for in our daily lives.
@@DamianSzajnowski power in dragonball is a result of hard work. the message of respect still applies for everyone because everyone can earn their respect if they so wish.
Gero dying early on in the Android Saga hurts me immensely. I would've loved to see a story where Gero doesn't get killed by No. 17 and goes on to interact with No. 16 (who was modeled after his dead son) and his reaction to Cell coming into the past. I don't think he gets as much light as other villains like Freeza and Cell for obvious reasons, but his impact on the series is just as great as either one of them; he created machines that decimated alternate timelines and killed warriors birthed from ancient legends, got the gang powered up and ready for the coming threat of Majin Boo, and he inadvertently ended up saving the entire multiverse through No. 17. And I would've loved to see one more scene where he talks to Goku in the Android Saga and gives him his whole dramatic backstory, which makes Goku realize just how damning his actions can really be and give him more fuel for his decision to stay dead after the Cell Games. The thought of you causing the deaths of all your friends and the human race in two separate timelines because you killed a man's son is something that will fuck with anyone's head.
Yeah, the retcon of 16 being a replica of Gero's dead soon is tragic, and really makes you think about Goku's actions during the Red Ribbon saga. He killed a LOT of people, more than he ever would during the rest of his life.
Actually Goku never killed Gero's son. He was killed defending a higher officer in the line if duty. However since Goku killed said officers and the army itself, he made said sacrifice worthless. Basically Gero hated how Goku ruined his legacy and wanted revenge on multiple ways.
@@omegashinobi Man, that feels dumber imo. Even if Goku destroying the RRA fuels Gero's hate, I feel like directly killing Gero's son during his attack on the base's HQ would make more sense from a thematic standpoint for the saga. Android Arc focuses on fatherhood and the legacy they leave on their children; Goku with Gohan and Future Gohan, Vegeta with Future Trunks, and the arc even opens up with Freeza coming to Earth for revenge with his father. So with Gero doing all this for the son he lost to Goku, it would fit in perfectly with that aspect.
The bit about Cell copying everyone's techniques and abilities made me realize that while Goku also inherited a bunch of techniques, he takes time to innovate on them especially with the Kamehameha. Whereas Cell just uses them as is. I also really liked the bit about the Ultra Divine Water with Goku putting his life on the line to live rather than die. It feels like I had a long dormant thought in my head that I was finally able ot put into words.
Cell is also a super fast learner which is why they wont ever revive the original cell. When Cell almost died the first time he learned instant transmition while vegeta had to hard train in dragon ball super. Also, like Frieza, Cell is analitic and he knows when a technique does shit and how to copy or counter it.
I never realized how recurring the idea of self-sacrificing techniques failing is in Dragon Ball and DBZ, even with Vegeta's final explosion in the Buu ark!
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Another connection to Goku: Jiren’s backstory is a direct mirror reflection of Goku’s story in the King Piccolo arc. The only difference is that there were no Dragon Balls and he didn’t have the same abilities of Goku to surpass that foe in time. He simply lost, and that therefore made him lost
Great analysis so far. You do such a great job at connecting the villians to the protags. I stopped to type this cuz you mentioned piccolo connecting to gohan because they both share loneliness missing their fathers. I wish the series utilized piccolo more often as a guiding light literally and figuratively.
These are interesting interpretations of the villains of the series. I haven't thought of them having such depth, especially before Z. I am curious if analysis of the Super antagonists would result in something interesting?
I think you could definitely find something within Beerus, Zamasu/Goku Black, Granola, and the Heeters. I guess you could do something with Jiren, though it's not particularly interesting. As cool as Moro is, he kinda feels like an amalgamation of other villains' themes. I guess the most notable thing with Moro is that he (and Granola) sees power and fighting as nothing more than a means to an end, which is certainly an interesting direction for Dragon Ball. Then there's Frieza and his journey, which is by far the most interesting in my opinion. He went from never training a day in his life and being afraid of being challenged to actively enjoying battle, passing on immortality, and training for 10 years in the Time Chamber all while the current antagonists were using the Dragon Balls to powerup.
@@s3studios597 He has also been going softer, while he is still a bastard and a monster that is more than willing to destroy entire planets we have seen that he does treat his men with respect and rewards them apropiately, like when cheelai and lemo find Broly he gives them a lot of money and seems to i general treat his force better even allowing them to be sassy around him while before he was far more demanding I also enjoy how he realizes that he isnt top dog anymore and is willing to back down like when Gogeta stopped him from shooting down cheelai's and lemo's ship after they used the dragon balls
@@zemox2534 I think all of the criticisms towards him are valid. He just comes out of nowhere, leaves Goku alive in the most bs way possible(Even for DB standards). He's a great villain. Just the whole arc around him is badly written.
I'm not all that big into dragon ball, but the idea of goku kind of being forced to be the bearer of the torch because he can't find a proper successor is a really interesting one that i dont think i've seen explored another work that covers a smiliar theme. Its such a cool idea in fact that I think i'm gonna steal for my own works 🙃
"Even a low class warrior can surpass an elite, if he works hard enough." A simple line, but one that captured the spirit of the whole series and Goku as a character. He doesn't look down on his opponents, but is inspired by their strength to better himself, eager to train and grow to a higher level, so he can stand as their equal. He fully accepts his weakness, and strives to grow, while characters like Vegeta refuse to accept that their assumptions might be false or that a being who they labeled as "weak" could challenge them. The villains rely on their scouters to measure the potential of people with a numerical value, assigning them a rank from birth. Goku and his friends time and time again defy this mentality, by surpassing their limits and so called "power level" to the disbelief of the villains.
Thank you for the update at the end! it's good to hear from you at least I do hope in the future that you'll be able to return more, but take your time. IRL comes first, we can be patient
Excellent video. It's good to see someone giving the villains of Dragon Ball their due. There are a few additional aspects I believe could have been included though if not finding it to make the video too verbose: Another key aspect that differentiates Piccolo Daimao from other villains in the franchise is that his goal after conquest was to abolish all laws rather than enforcing his own system like Red and Freeza or being purely about wanton destruction as with Cell or Boo. He let humanity run wild in what seems to be an attempt to show their true colours, something that becomes retroactively profound with later reveals of Kami's position or Kaio stating that their original, united self likely had his heart's purity damaged by what he witnessed of humans on Earth. With Piccolo, his identity with his previous incarnation as well as Goku and Gohan's views on him compared to his father, there's a few elements that become apparent with a deep dive into eastern beliefs. Several Daoist or Buddhist traditions believe that the physical destruction of aspects and iconography of a demon can weaken their power, with it being fitting that Goku pierces through Piccolo Daimao's Ma (demon) kanji when landing a fatal blow. By these cultural beliefs, this would serve as a slight exorcism that helps explain why the new Piccolo is perceived as not being as evil. Another detail on their identity is that Piccolo refers to himself with the pronoun of "ora" much as Goku and Chichi (ie. that of a younger, less well-mannered person) whereas Daimao refers to himself with "washi" (that of an older man) showing the two are different on a mental level. Raditz is also an interesting case beyond his role as Goku's brother as he represented just as much of an escalation in selfishness as power between the three Saiyan enemies of the arc. Despite his claims, there'd be no utilitarian benefit of having someone of Goku's power at the time join them and he even uses the death of their parents as an attempt to squeeze a reaction out of Goku, showing he wanted a sense of familial bonds that was still rooted in their Saiyan ideals. Nappa is far more adamant about killing Goku rather than recruiting him but still displays some level of care for allies such as believing at first Vegeta would use the Dragon Balls to revive Raditz until Vegeta elaborated on gaining eternal life as well as being shocked at Vegeta killing a Saibaiman that had proven to be inferior to Tenshinhan, compared to Vegeta having little care for allies that serve no use to him. This works very well as an inverted escalation of how the Dragon Team became less selfish over time too. It's a bit disappointing you didn't mention King Cold. Despite his short stay in the story, his role recontextualises Freeza's actions as those of a spoiled child who was raised to know little better than the character traits he displayed. This also fits thematically with his loss on Namek coming from a difference in ideology as him not being challenged in his mindset causes him to give Goku the opportunity to overpower him and his immaturity causing his near death. The dying Namek is also one of the most fitting locations for a major fight in the series, the planet being gradually destroyed every bit as much as Freeza's ideals.
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i never thought about how clever it was that piccolo was paired with gohan at the beginning of the saiyan saga. piccolo learned that he didn't have to follow in his father's footsteps because gohan didn't have to nor did he want to. gohan was forced to step up several times but that didn't mean he was his father. smart writing
Vegeta represents Nature and unwillingly coming to understand ones nurture his armor started off full in the Saiyan arc, then it looses alot of details in Frieza and cell then Buu he's unwilling to forget his pride of his nature but grew to respect the effect of nurture, Frieza represented Nature a force of nature that overcame Vegeta, notice how he was naturally strong and didn't train, he was a force of nature it was enforcing Vegetas belief to an absurd amount, Cell was a contradiction he was a future threat that came to the present made up of past warriors and foes he was a walking contradiction, so it took Gohan another contradiction to beat him he was a Saiyan earthling hybrid, taught by a demon namekian, Gohan was always unsure of himself unlike Goku and Vegeta he sometimes wants to fight and other times doesn't so it took a contradiction to beat a contradiction, Buu represents loosing ones self, notice how fat Buu isn't pure he speaks child like and can be reasoned with like with Hercule and Goku, Super Buu could also be compromised but to a lesser extent and he talked more monstrously, it's only when he took in more people its when he looses his self, and Kid Buu the purest of them all couldn't speak well and couldn't be compromised with he was at his most pure but lost a lot of power, the heroes were also not themselves they relied on tricks like fusion and unlocked power instead of using there own strengths. Which is why the spirit bomb was perfect for defeating Buu because it represents pure good positive energy taking out pure evil
The Ginyu force did care when Guldo was killed. They showed shock for a few seconds at how powerful Vegeta was. And they knew the captain would be mad because the poses would be off. But their hardy battle warrior attitude meant they didn't show grief at the time, and prepared for their turn to fight. They knew if Vegeta got a sneak attack on any of them he could one shot them or do serious damage after that moment.
This video was tight. I never really looked at the entire franchise this way and compared Goku's ideals with other's. Especially the reason why he had to be the one to protect earth in the end again.
There's a twisted irony that Cell has the most potential out of all the previous villains and characters(By having their genetics)in dragon ball only to spend the rest of the story STEALING power instead of learning and growing the power he already has. Poetic that Cell and Gohan are both prodigies in a way.
This was fab. all the best. I got into one piece this year - currently on post enies lobby - and I've been loving finishing an arc and then listening to the nen show episode about it.
You know when you mentioned about Cell using the other fighters techniques and skills reminds me of the lesson of strength by Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2. Strength from others means you become dependent on that source of strength but true strength is rejecting power that is not your own.
I always felt like Friezas laziness was never discussed enough. He was so used to getting everything he wanted without any effort. In fact, half of the arc we see him just sitting in a chair. Conversely, we see Goku training and building himself up most of the time. Frieza was Gokus opposite in every way. I thought that was great character writing.
And how was he able to do so after being stripped of Red Ribbon Army resources, and without knowing the insane power boosts taken from the Fortuneteller Baba arc onwards to Namek stuff? Dr. Gero has a hatred of Goku comparable to AM from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream towards all of humanity, even if for some reason the basis for 16 (and therefore Gero’s son) was killed.
Damn u went OFF on this bro! Great video! Ur point on Vegeta acting more like Freiza rather than like a real Saiyan is something I never thought about before! Really interesting way to view the character!
Funny that in Super with Frieza being resurrected he has also developed a drive to better himself. He trained for 10 full years and despite having both Goku and Vegeta completely outclassed he let them live. That's something old Frieza would have never done.
The 23rd tournament’s Goku vs Piccolo Jr is a brutal fight, but by stepping back, Piccolo Jr can be seen as an orphanage toddler having a tantrum. Goku I think saw this, along with the difference between father and Son, ( plus the whole Kami connection) so he just outlasted the outburst, and punished him just enough to force feed some humble pie, but then chose to show some kindness after punishment, like a parental figure and so he spared the remaining demon servant, knowing the child could improve and be a better person. Thankfully he did.
I always felt like Gohan's arc was never closed. Cursed to perpetually relive his mistakes of arrogance. Such a wasted character, there's something about not wanting to fight and yet being unable to escape that life. He may not want it, but he was always destined to be Goku's successor, and I wish Toriyama would've explored his character more in that 25th martial arts tournament.
@@colinnixon7739 Gohan was the one that saved the day at the end of the Cell arc, not Goku. Idk, its just wrong to introduce an idea into a story and then going back on it. That’s why the Buu arc always felts so disconnected to me. Toriyama was building towards something great and then he just rushed it at the end. Don’t get me wrong, the buu arc is fun but it ain’t near close to the Cell or Frieza arc. I’m not saying Gohan should be Goku, but at least finish what you started years ago with his character and don’t leave him unresolved.
@TheLenbax Gohan didn't save the day. Android 16 saved the day. Goku coaching Gohan saved the day, vegeta hitting cell in the back saved the day. Gohan was not proactive in cells defeat. He was passive. He literally couldn't do it by himself on his own merits. That's not a good protagonist.
cell Jr is probably a better version of what king piccolo does to make our current piccolo, maybe it's how it would work if he wasn't injured while preforming it
One villain I feel gets underrated is Baby. Yes, GT, non canon and all, but everything about him is just so good. He is Goku’s perfect nemesis more than anyone before or after him, his ideal and complete opposite. If Goku’s greatest power is his capacity to inspire and unite people around him, turning even fierce enemies into friends, Baby is someone whose speciality is taking Goku’s friends away from him and turning them into enemies. And not just mind controlled puppets. Actual evil versions of themselves, who still remember and know Goku, but hate him and want him to suffer and die. All while Baby is sadistically laughing his ass off. There’s a reason why Goku was willing to execute this guy in cold blood, a treatment he thought even Frieza wasn’t entirely deserving of. When he sees Bulma grinning like a maniac and he glares at Baby with ice cold fury in return, you know the ultimate line has been crossed.
Okay, 3 min in ans I gotta say I really appreciate you mentioning all villains, i.e. red ribbon army, and not just the bbegs in Z. Like, frieza, cell, and buu
"To me, Dragon Ball is 'a manga where the villains are incredibly cool'." -Kubo Tite
excellent video once again, man.
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Thats dumb.
He should watch the anime cause the anime is way better than the manga cause of the filler and they make the villains better
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Small little correction: The Cell Jr.s are not Cell's own completely original creation. They are something he can create because of the Namekian DNA in him. Making them another aspect of him derived from the DNA used in his creation.
Is this explained from Akira toriyama himself is this just ur headcannon?
@@annedrieck7316 it's true!
@@annedrieck7316 Did you forget it one of Namekian ability?
@@annedrieck7316 Namekians have been shown to reproduce asexually.
… all your explanation does is to clarify how they are Cell’s original creations…
But you framed it as a correction, so your point confuses me. You didn’t bring correction, you brought clarification framed as correction which is dishonest at worst.
I love how the main theme of dragon ball seems to be that "power respects equal or greater power" and that strong individuals challenge each other with the protags providing "balance" to the world around them. Power when used the right way is for maintaining balance and peace. Not to destroy and subjugate. Which to be fair, is a theme in other stories.
Edit: then again, that just shows how timeless dragon ball is.
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Ehh, so it is just the reiteration or maybe in DB case, creation of the anime logic of power respects power instead of radical respect and acceptance for everyone unless utterly not possible, which seems to be worthy of striving for in our daily lives.
@@DamianSzajnowski power in dragonball is a result of hard work. the message of respect still applies for everyone because everyone can earn their respect if they so wish.
Gero dying early on in the Android Saga hurts me immensely. I would've loved to see a story where Gero doesn't get killed by No. 17 and goes on to interact with No. 16 (who was modeled after his dead son) and his reaction to Cell coming into the past.
I don't think he gets as much light as other villains like Freeza and Cell for obvious reasons, but his impact on the series is just as great as either one of them; he created machines that decimated alternate timelines and killed warriors birthed from ancient legends, got the gang powered up and ready for the coming threat of Majin Boo, and he inadvertently ended up saving the entire multiverse through No. 17.
And I would've loved to see one more scene where he talks to Goku in the Android Saga and gives him his whole dramatic backstory, which makes Goku realize just how damning his actions can really be and give him more fuel for his decision to stay dead after the Cell Games. The thought of you causing the deaths of all your friends and the human race in two separate timelines because you killed a man's son is something that will fuck with anyone's head.
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Yeah, the retcon of 16 being a replica of Gero's dead soon is tragic, and really makes you think about Goku's actions during the Red Ribbon saga. He killed a LOT of people, more than he ever would during the rest of his life.
Actually Goku never killed Gero's son. He was killed defending a higher officer in the line if duty. However since Goku killed said officers and the army itself, he made said sacrifice worthless.
Basically Gero hated how Goku ruined his legacy and wanted revenge on multiple ways.
@@omegashinobi Man, that feels dumber imo. Even if Goku destroying the RRA fuels Gero's hate, I feel like directly killing Gero's son during his attack on the base's HQ would make more sense from a thematic standpoint for the saga. Android Arc focuses on fatherhood and the legacy they leave on their children; Goku with Gohan and Future Gohan, Vegeta with Future Trunks, and the arc even opens up with Freeza coming to Earth for revenge with his father. So with Gero doing all this for the son he lost to Goku, it would fit in perfectly with that aspect.
The bit about Cell copying everyone's techniques and abilities made me realize that while Goku also inherited a bunch of techniques, he takes time to innovate on them especially with the Kamehameha. Whereas Cell just uses them as is.
I also really liked the bit about the Ultra Divine Water with Goku putting his life on the line to live rather than die. It feels like I had a long dormant thought in my head that I was finally able ot put into words.
Cell is also a super fast learner which is why they wont ever revive the original cell. When Cell almost died the first time he learned instant transmition while vegeta had to hard train in dragon ball super.
Also, like Frieza, Cell is analitic and he knows when a technique does shit and how to copy or counter it.
On that point goku's suprise attack was a kamehameha used with instant transmission instead of a regular kamehameha.
@@chrono2208 I think his best combo was the one he used on Jiren with the hexagon distructo disks, solar flare and instantaneous movement
Yeah but I think Cell only innovates those techniques when he grows stronger but he innovates them by just using them after he grew on strength
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I never realized how recurring the idea of self-sacrificing techniques failing is in Dragon Ball and DBZ, even with Vegeta's final explosion in the Buu ark!
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Gokus sacrifice didn't put an end to Cell as well. This happens many times in this show.
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Another connection to Goku: Jiren’s backstory is a direct mirror reflection of Goku’s story in the King Piccolo arc. The only difference is that there were no Dragon Balls and he didn’t have the same abilities of Goku to surpass that foe in time. He simply lost, and that therefore made him lost
This video gives the villains of Dragon Ball more depth to their characters that most wouldn't have realized.
Great video! Thanks for actually respecting dragonball unlike so many online
Great analysis so far. You do such a great job at connecting the villians to the protags. I stopped to type this cuz you mentioned piccolo connecting to gohan because they both share loneliness missing their fathers. I wish the series utilized piccolo more often as a guiding light literally and figuratively.
Well, besides being Gohan's mentor, he also helps Goten and Trunks, and it seems like he's still guiding Gohan in Super Hero.
@@s3studios597 yep.
@S3 Studios Piccolo acts as a mentor to Pan.
Legitimately the most refreshing dragonball vid I have seen in a long time. Incredible work. Thank you !
I love how you so thoughtfully put the themes of each villain in a way I never heard before
These are interesting interpretations of the villains of the series. I haven't thought of them having such depth, especially before Z. I am curious if analysis of the Super antagonists would result in something interesting?
Probably not
I think you could definitely find something within Beerus, Zamasu/Goku Black, Granola, and the Heeters. I guess you could do something with Jiren, though it's not particularly interesting. As cool as Moro is, he kinda feels like an amalgamation of other villains' themes. I guess the most notable thing with Moro is that he (and Granola) sees power and fighting as nothing more than a means to an end, which is certainly an interesting direction for Dragon Ball. Then there's Frieza and his journey, which is by far the most interesting in my opinion. He went from never training a day in his life and being afraid of being challenged to actively enjoying battle, passing on immortality, and training for 10 years in the Time Chamber all while the current antagonists were using the Dragon Balls to powerup.
Very likely.
@@s3studios597 seems like Goku has been rubbing off on Frieza
@@s3studios597 He has also been going softer, while he is still a bastard and a monster that is more than willing to destroy entire planets we have seen that he does treat his men with respect and rewards them apropiately, like when cheelai and lemo find Broly he gives them a lot of money and seems to i general treat his force better even allowing them to be sassy around him while before he was far more demanding
I also enjoy how he realizes that he isnt top dog anymore and is willing to back down like when Gogeta stopped him from shooting down cheelai's and lemo's ship after they used the dragon balls
I never thought of King Piccolos defeat like that.
Roshi and Tien couldn't defeat him because they didn't improve their strength.
Honestly King Piccolo doesn't get enough credit for the Impact he left as a villain. I wish he get more recognition.
@@zemox2534 I think all of the criticisms towards him are valid.
He just comes out of nowhere, leaves Goku alive in the most bs way possible(Even for DB standards).
He's a great villain. Just the whole arc around him is badly written.
This is the best db analysis I’ve seen. Bravo
I'm not all that big into dragon ball, but the idea of goku kind of being forced to be the bearer of the torch because he can't find a proper successor is a really interesting one that i dont think i've seen explored another work that covers a smiliar theme. Its such a cool idea in fact that I think i'm gonna steal for my own works 🙃
this was one of the most interesting takes I've seen in dragon ball, thanks for the good video
Great analysis. I never considered the layers and thematical importance the villains of DB possesss. Makes me appreciate them more.
"Even a low class warrior can surpass an elite, if he works hard enough."
A simple line, but one that captured the spirit of the whole series and Goku as a character. He doesn't look down on his opponents, but is inspired by their strength to better himself, eager to train and grow to a higher level, so he can stand as their equal. He fully accepts his weakness, and strives to grow, while characters like Vegeta refuse to accept that their assumptions might be false or that a being who they labeled as "weak" could challenge them. The villains rely on their scouters to measure the potential of people with a numerical value, assigning them a rank from birth. Goku and his friends time and time again defy this mentality, by surpassing their limits and so called "power level" to the disbelief of the villains.
You make some of the best videos honestly. Great job
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This video was truly amazing and you put together so many ideas so eloquently.
Thank you for the update at the end! it's good to hear from you at least
I do hope in the future that you'll be able to return more, but take your time. IRL comes first, we can be patient
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Excellent video. It's good to see someone giving the villains of Dragon Ball their due. There are a few additional aspects I believe could have been included though if not finding it to make the video too verbose:
Another key aspect that differentiates Piccolo Daimao from other villains in the franchise is that his goal after conquest was to abolish all laws rather than enforcing his own system like Red and Freeza or being purely about wanton destruction as with Cell or Boo. He let humanity run wild in what seems to be an attempt to show their true colours, something that becomes retroactively profound with later reveals of Kami's position or Kaio stating that their original, united self likely had his heart's purity damaged by what he witnessed of humans on Earth.
With Piccolo, his identity with his previous incarnation as well as Goku and Gohan's views on him compared to his father, there's a few elements that become apparent with a deep dive into eastern beliefs. Several Daoist or Buddhist traditions believe that the physical destruction of aspects and iconography of a demon can weaken their power, with it being fitting that Goku pierces through Piccolo Daimao's Ma (demon) kanji when landing a fatal blow. By these cultural beliefs, this would serve as a slight exorcism that helps explain why the new Piccolo is perceived as not being as evil. Another detail on their identity is that Piccolo refers to himself with the pronoun of "ora" much as Goku and Chichi (ie. that of a younger, less well-mannered person) whereas Daimao refers to himself with "washi" (that of an older man) showing the two are different on a mental level.
Raditz is also an interesting case beyond his role as Goku's brother as he represented just as much of an escalation in selfishness as power between the three Saiyan enemies of the arc. Despite his claims, there'd be no utilitarian benefit of having someone of Goku's power at the time join them and he even uses the death of their parents as an attempt to squeeze a reaction out of Goku, showing he wanted a sense of familial bonds that was still rooted in their Saiyan ideals. Nappa is far more adamant about killing Goku rather than recruiting him but still displays some level of care for allies such as believing at first Vegeta would use the Dragon Balls to revive Raditz until Vegeta elaborated on gaining eternal life as well as being shocked at Vegeta killing a Saibaiman that had proven to be inferior to Tenshinhan, compared to Vegeta having little care for allies that serve no use to him. This works very well as an inverted escalation of how the Dragon Team became less selfish over time too.
It's a bit disappointing you didn't mention King Cold. Despite his short stay in the story, his role recontextualises Freeza's actions as those of a spoiled child who was raised to know little better than the character traits he displayed. This also fits thematically with his loss on Namek coming from a difference in ideology as him not being challenged in his mindset causes him to give Goku the opportunity to overpower him and his immaturity causing his near death. The dying Namek is also one of the most fitting locations for a major fight in the series, the planet being gradually destroyed every bit as much as Freeza's ideals.
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@@dfactoropbr I like analysis videos and I try to watch them as much as possible.
i never thought about how clever it was that piccolo was paired with gohan at the beginning of the saiyan saga. piccolo learned that he didn't have to follow in his father's footsteps because gohan didn't have to nor did he want to. gohan was forced to step up several times but that didn't mean he was his father. smart writing
Vegeta represents Nature and unwillingly coming to understand ones nurture his armor started off full in the Saiyan arc, then it looses alot of details in Frieza and cell then Buu he's unwilling to forget his pride of his nature but grew to respect the effect of nurture, Frieza represented Nature a force of nature that overcame Vegeta, notice how he was naturally strong and didn't train, he was a force of nature it was enforcing Vegetas belief to an absurd amount, Cell was a contradiction he was a future threat that came to the present made up of past warriors and foes he was a walking contradiction, so it took Gohan another contradiction to beat him he was a Saiyan earthling hybrid, taught by a demon namekian, Gohan was always unsure of himself unlike Goku and Vegeta he sometimes wants to fight and other times doesn't so it took a contradiction to beat a contradiction, Buu represents loosing ones self, notice how fat Buu isn't pure he speaks child like and can be reasoned with like with Hercule and Goku, Super Buu could also be compromised but to a lesser extent and he talked more monstrously, it's only when he took in more people its when he looses his self, and Kid Buu the purest of them all couldn't speak well and couldn't be compromised with he was at his most pure but lost a lot of power, the heroes were also not themselves they relied on tricks like fusion and unlocked power instead of using there own strengths. Which is why the spirit bomb was perfect for defeating Buu because it represents pure good positive energy taking out pure evil
Loved the video, it really shed an in depth way of viewing the over arching themes of the things that led the characters to be the way they are.
The fan base are the true villains
If only we could blast them away easily…
True💪
Yes
Are they stronger than goku though?
The Ginyu force did care when Guldo was killed. They showed shock for a few seconds at how powerful Vegeta was. And they knew the captain would be mad because the poses would be off. But their hardy battle warrior attitude meant they didn't show grief at the time, and prepared for their turn to fight. They knew if Vegeta got a sneak attack on any of them he could one shot them or do serious damage after that moment.
Lmao no. They were just shocked he got beat by vegeta who was weak af before this.
This video was tight. I never really looked at the entire franchise this way and compared Goku's ideals with other's. Especially the reason why he had to be the one to protect earth in the end again.
Good analysis dude.
There's a twisted irony that Cell has the most potential out of all the previous villains and characters(By having their genetics)in dragon ball only to spend the rest of the story STEALING power instead of learning and growing the power he already has.
Poetic that Cell and Gohan are both prodigies in a way.
Cell would never train
@@colinnixon7739 If Frieza did...
OH MY GOOOOOOD! The Dwarf is alive!
EDIT: Sad to hear you are struggling right now. Hope you can pull through! I'm rootin' for ya' Dwarf!
This was fab. all the best. I got into one piece this year - currently on post enies lobby - and I've been loving finishing an arc and then listening to the nen show episode about it.
This show is beautiful. No wonder this franchise has so much staying power. Wonderful analysis.
He's back!!
and when the world needed him the most he returned...
Fr welcome back! I thought you left for good!!
Great video, glad to see you back here
Babe wake up, new Craftsdwarf Dragon Ball video just dropped!
You know when you mentioned about Cell using the other fighters techniques and skills reminds me of the lesson of strength by Kreia from Knights of the Old Republic 2. Strength from others means you become dependent on that source of strength but true strength is rejecting power that is not your own.
Need a version with the dragon ball super antagonists including those in the manga
That Trixie Vs Ethan Ralph edit, beautiful 👌
I Hope you bring back the nen show I really wanted to hear your readthrough of Toriko and shaman king
I always felt like Friezas laziness was never discussed enough. He was so used to getting everything he wanted without any effort. In fact, half of the arc we see him just sitting in a chair. Conversely, we see Goku training and building himself up most of the time. Frieza was Gokus opposite in every way. I thought that was great character writing.
My question is, how did Gero create machines that are capable of not only fighting but k*lling beings capable of destroying actual planets?
And how was he able to do so after being stripped of Red Ribbon Army resources, and without knowing the insane power boosts taken from the Fortuneteller Baba arc onwards to Namek stuff? Dr. Gero has a hatred of Goku comparable to AM from I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream towards all of humanity, even if for some reason the basis for 16 (and therefore Gero’s son) was killed.
Return of the King
Love your content, pls keep making more videos!
24:27 this goku part was just… perfect
Shoot happy to see a new video I just checked last week to make sure I was still subscribed. I love your stuff, but I'm still very new to your channel
solid video
You heard of MistereFusion? His Dragon Ball Dissection is what AniTuber wish they were.
MistereFusion vids are🚮
@@christinawalker101 What's that mean?
@@matt0044 Trash bro.
@@colindowden2182 For real? MF's videos are the best I've seen when it comes to Dragon Ball videos not about power levels or whatnot.
Damn u went OFF on this bro! Great video! Ur point on Vegeta acting more like Freiza rather than like a real Saiyan is something I never thought about before! Really interesting way to view the character!
this was great
Was listening to Nen Show when I got the notification that this came out
He hath returneth
I feel like children in this generation were robbed of real role models. I hope I don't too childish, but DragonBall shaped my whole outlook on life
Funny that in Super with Frieza being resurrected he has also developed a drive to better himself. He trained for 10 full years and despite having both Goku and Vegeta completely outclassed he let them live. That's something old Frieza would have never done.
Good video like always.
This was a phenomenal video. Just subscribed , notifications bell on!!!
Great video!
I know they weren't main villains but man did I love the Ginyu Force.
The 23rd tournament’s Goku vs Piccolo Jr is a brutal fight, but by stepping back, Piccolo Jr can be seen as an orphanage toddler having a tantrum. Goku I think saw this, along with the difference between father and Son, ( plus the whole Kami connection) so he just outlasted the outburst, and punished him just enough to force feed some humble pie, but then chose to show some kindness after punishment, like a parental figure and so he spared the remaining demon servant, knowing the child could improve and be a better person. Thankfully he did.
hey! i know that song in the beginning, prob one of my favs from MIA's OST
Fantastic video
I always felt like Gohan's arc was never closed. Cursed to perpetually relive his mistakes of arrogance. Such a wasted character, there's something about not wanting to fight and yet being unable to escape that life. He may not want it, but he was always destined to be Goku's successor, and I wish Toriyama would've explored his character more in that 25th martial arts tournament.
Nobody will ever be goku. He's literally 1 of a kind. That's why he's always the one that ends up saving the day.
@@colinnixon7739 Gohan was the one that saved the day at the end of the Cell arc, not Goku. Idk, its just wrong to introduce an idea into a story and then going back on it. That’s why the Buu arc always felts so disconnected to me. Toriyama was building towards something great and then he just rushed it at the end. Don’t get me wrong, the buu arc is fun but it ain’t near close to the Cell or Frieza arc. I’m not saying Gohan should be Goku, but at least finish what you started years ago with his character and don’t leave him unresolved.
@TheLenbax Gohan didn't save the day. Android 16 saved the day. Goku coaching Gohan saved the day, vegeta hitting cell in the back saved the day.
Gohan was not proactive in cells defeat. He was passive. He literally couldn't do it by himself on his own merits. That's not a good protagonist.
@colinnixon7739 sure, whatever you say man
@@thelenbax8497 it's not my fault you don't know how to properly analyze simple shit 😒
cell Jr is probably a better version of what king piccolo does to make our current piccolo, maybe it's how it would work if he wasn't injured while preforming it
Ps I love the music thanks for a great video and love your breakdown
The goat came back !
Damn 9 months for this. Why do good works always take so long bruh
That Destiny Islands ost towards the start >>>>
EXACTLY YOU EXPLAINED UUB SO GOOD and the Buu saga even better
He is still alive!
Good, funny content man. Keep at it.
Channel based around Dbz and DF?
I'm sold!
Piccolo destroying the moon in the DB..really stays in my memories.
Love your videos man! Keep it up
One villain I feel gets underrated is Baby. Yes, GT, non canon and all, but everything about him is just so good. He is Goku’s perfect nemesis more than anyone before or after him, his ideal and complete opposite. If Goku’s greatest power is his capacity to inspire and unite people around him, turning even fierce enemies into friends, Baby is someone whose speciality is taking Goku’s friends away from him and turning them into enemies. And not just mind controlled puppets. Actual evil versions of themselves, who still remember and know Goku, but hate him and want him to suffer and die. All while Baby is sadistically laughing his ass off. There’s a reason why Goku was willing to execute this guy in cold blood, a treatment he thought even Frieza wasn’t entirely deserving of. When he sees Bulma grinning like a maniac and he glares at Baby with ice cold fury in return, you know the ultimate line has been crossed.
Baby isn’t underrated at all, everyone loves him
@@turkeysgotmorecloutthanyou Well, even better then!
He's not underrated everyone knows that's the best arc and villian 😂
2:16 song?
what a nice little channel, it even has a DF pfp
Okay, 3 min in ans I gotta say I really appreciate you mentioning all villains, i.e. red ribbon army, and not just the bbegs in Z. Like, frieza, cell, and buu
Im not even 4 minutes in but this is a great video
return of the goat
The fact people think Dragon Ball isn't neccessary viewing is genuinely sad. :( Real fans play Pilaf Machine in Tenkaichi 3
Bro has kh music of destiny island in the back
Love it
I think people forget Goku is Cell's father not just Gohan's.
Explain?
0:59 my favorite fight in all of Dragonball.
He's back!
Good video :)
I could tell you take inspiration from totally not Mark but I believe you are the better, and I hope your channel flourishes.
Gohan was still more powerful when cell returned
I see so many clips of Z now and instantly think of team four star and Dragon Ball Z Abridged
Goku outsourced his role to the 3rd world because his own children didn't want to do it.
Analogies.
Oh yah. Just gonna slip that destiny island theme in there
Peak video🙏🏼
let's gooooooooooooooo