The 2025 update is disappointing. When will the modeling improvements and character rigging enhancements be implemented? I’m a fan of C4D, but Blender’s features seem better. It’s unfortunate.
Can we get some proper tutorials on scene nodes? It's so complicated that even professionals aren't making tutorials on it... Honestly if 2026 doesn't have full scene node release with proper documentation and a push from your side to make some educational content around it, it will be extremely disappointing... I was expecting it from this release to be honest. I keep seeing the insane stuff people make with geometry nodes and Houdini nodes and I'm starting to feel very limited.
I completely agree on this, in the mean time, here are some useful resources to learn from: - Dominik Ruckli (YT) - Scene Nodes Tips (I think the guy running the channel works at Maxon) (YT) - Core4D (YT) - Procedural C4D Server (Discord)
Perfect timing, my Maxon One license expires in 2 days. If they hadn't have raised their subscription prices, I would have renewed my Maxon One but I'll be getting just the C4D tier this time.
Keep going, you're losing your customer base one update at a time, with your outrageous subscription prices and updates that bring little to no real improvement. Each new version promises more but delivers nothing but cosmetic changes, bugs, and features no one asked for. You’re charging premium prices for what feels like minimal effort, well done!
While I can't argue with your rant about their price policies, your rant isn't particularly constructive. I mean, what exactly should Maxon update to please your demands?
@@mistertamura6190 I'm not the OP but the snapping and pivot point manipulation tools for starters... Competition has had better tools for that since over 15 years ago. Some changes to those would be a huge quality of life improvement imo
Not enough for the money. Blender + Houdini is too good. I would never stop using Houdini but I would definitely consider moving to Maxon One with a fair Indie plan. A lot of Houdini users already pay for Red Shift and I would love my destructive workflow to be in C4D.
I was hoping for that, maybe in a 2025.x incremental update. At least an SPH modifier for particles, it would probably be slow but it would be something.
Oh yeah, after decades(!!!) they updated particles and pyro (wow), so just wait for like a few years and they will born "some liquid sim" while the other guys jump on to Houdini (spoiler: it's not so hard and scary)
Hello everyone! It seems you still haven't fixed the collider issue in Pyro. Here's the gist: an object with the Collider tag still lets through Pyro's fire and smoke. The situation gets worse when the Collider object moves. Pyros smoke and fire simply don't see it and fly right through it. Neither Turbulence FD, or X-Particles, and FumeFX have this problem.
It's more particles, pyro, colour and mograph stuff. I can think of a lot of things that would have been unprecedented or unparalleled to see in C4D, and particles swirling in pretty patterns don't quite fit the definition IMO.
Maxon is playing with us. I don't see anything important in this Cinema 4d release. Let's look at an example from Houdini 20.0 to Houdini 20.5 brought tons of new and powerful things, in less than 1 year.
@@MartinSiuda_cgi few months, still have trouble, but staying with C4D is like staying on a sinking ship. The only people who would disagree are those too afraid to jump ship as they've spent too much of their lives dedicated to learning it. Blender is moving way to quickly for them to ever catch up and every single new artist joining the space is learning on Blender. It's becoming industry standard now and soon C4D will go the way of 3DSmax. What was a joke several years ago has become a reality unfortunately. Maxon still refuse to listen to the community, some bugs that have existed for 10 years have never been fixed and all their updates are miniscule in comparison to the other programs. Fk em I say.
@@renderinginprogress LMAO why Blender instead of pro stuff such as Maya or Max? Or Houdini? "becoming industry standard now" LMAO that's never gonna happen, dude, and what about Max? It's not going anywhere, it's still king in its niche
Another boring C4D release video. Fun fact, it starts with examples of former Insydium employee amazing Mario Tran Phuc. Unfortunately the XParticles showreel from 5 years ago has more diverse and complicated examples than this video.
Every 3D software has its own purpose. For example, Cinema 4D (C4D) is great for motion design and MoGraph animations, while Blender and Maya are better suited for modeling. When it comes to character design, ZBrush is ideal. For more procedural operations and simulations, Houdini is the go-to. Personally, I switched from Blender to C4D, and I love it. Blender is excellent for classic animation and modeling, but when it comes to simulations and procedural animation, it falls short. if it will implement more stuff like xparticles maxon i would love it
Maxon, enough with too much focus on Mograph, its time to focus on Modeling & Character tools like as seen in Maya and Blender. C4D is serious lacking in these areas. Any character tutorial I see done with C4D is always laughable. I'd never seen any such characters being modeled as seen in Maya, Blender, Iclone etc. Come on guys. If you want us to stick to C4D then you gotta LISTEN to you customer base. This release does not seem like any major Update to noise about.
Maxon is a disgrace. Holding good companies like Redshift and Red Giant hostage. Not resolving bugs that's been there for years, for instance Trapcode Particular is barely usable. LIMITING the number of seat switches per day AND increasing the subscription plan price. This is utter GREED. Back in the day I recommended C4D to everyone getting into the 3D business, now I tell everyone to stay the heck away. Even Adobe's policy pales in comparison to what Maxon's leadership is up to.
i would just appreciate seeing an hybrid version of unrealengine 5 and cryengine, being adapted to render cinema 4d in realtime, straight from its renderer, in order to make it faster and more reliable
My redshift sub just expired and my C4D Commercial licence was renewed in Feb 2024. So how do i upgrade my current „C4D only“ to the „C4D (Redshift Bundle)“ version? I see „Cinema 4D 1 Year - Conversion from Cinema 4D 1 Year (MX-Y)“ option … but have no idea what that means exactly …
What about hair??? What about a proper update to the uv manager? What about the ultra slow rigs? Why are nodes in Houdini and blender MUCH less complicated and yet far more powerful?? Why don’t you have a proper geometry spreadsheet like everybody else? Why can’t you expose the particles in the nodes? Etc etc etc Compare blender hair, Houdini hair to c4d hairy mess, 🥶🤯
Damn... i changing my mind, i was hyped, but in the end this update is dissapointment :D After years of being in love with C4D i started learning blender, even at the school where Im teaching (C4D), all students want to learn blender because of maxon pricing politics, i dont realy understand why is maxon shooting himself in the leg and slowly letting die sutch a cool software :(
Soon these 3d softwares are done! Any NOOB gonna be making awesome 3d content with a stupid prompt and an AI! And I can throw away my 25ys of ever learning these packages over and over! It's DONE! Maxon and Autodesk cannot rip off the masses anymore!There is no value anymore in graphic design!
@@Rivental blender stans, man, dont even bother, I bet they spend all day going to videos of industry-standards software in order to comment how Blender is better lol
The 2025 update is disappointing.
When will the modeling improvements and character rigging enhancements be implemented?
I’m a fan of C4D, but Blender’s features seem better.
It’s unfortunate.
For modelling and sculpting, there's ZBrush. There is no better software for this. And now it's also owned by Maxon.
accurate
wtf? 2024 still no indie licence ? maxon wake up before its too late. im finish after 15 years
go for houdini. cinema 4d is trash
Can we get some proper tutorials on scene nodes? It's so complicated that even professionals aren't making tutorials on it... Honestly if 2026 doesn't have full scene node release with proper documentation and a push from your side to make some educational content around it, it will be extremely disappointing... I was expecting it from this release to be honest.
I keep seeing the insane stuff people make with geometry nodes and Houdini nodes and I'm starting to feel very limited.
I think so, I think I will learn Houdini rather than scene nodes, if there is no fluent and comprehensive tutorial video
I completely agree on this, in the mean time, here are some useful resources to learn from:
- Dominik Ruckli (YT)
- Scene Nodes Tips (I think the guy running the channel works at Maxon) (YT)
- Core4D (YT)
- Procedural C4D Server (Discord)
And when do modeling tools improve?
Perfect timing, my Maxon One license expires in 2 days. If they hadn't have raised their subscription prices, I would have renewed my Maxon One but I'll be getting just the C4D tier this time.
Hello Blender, I coming after 9 years of Cinema 4D!
Read the comments of people who use the program, maybe something will change! :)
C4D 2026 - Free, save my comment
Guess the switch to blender is sealed now.
Huh? Why?
I've been considering this as well. Kinda interested in Unreal more now though!
@@jessicaweitzel4027 for mograph?
do it mate :) Cycles is awesome to work with and "Live Viewport" is something I couldnt imagine :)
@@veith3dclub most ppl don't understand this yet!, its so comfortable to art direct your mats and lights with Cycles, and its fast and looks great.
Imagine new users introduced to Zbrush on iPad and then later opening desktop version to see UI design from another universe.
Lolol
I'm paying for C4D and redshift - should i cancel my redshift subscription then if it already comes with any C4D subscription?
Keep going, you're losing your customer base one update at a time, with your outrageous subscription prices and updates that bring little to no real improvement. Each new version promises more but delivers nothing but cosmetic changes, bugs, and features no one asked for. You’re charging premium prices for what feels like minimal effort, well done!
" bring little to no real improvement" really? Have you seen the "What's new" videos for Maya and Max? LOL they are a joke in comparison to this .
While I can't argue with your rant about their price policies, your rant isn't particularly constructive. I mean, what exactly should Maxon update to please your demands?
partly agree. There are a lot of simple plugins that could be easily integrated into cinema
Look at Ścierwodesk updates - I cant see any difference between 3ds max 2009 and 3ds max 2024
@@mistertamura6190 I'm not the OP but the snapping and pivot point manipulation tools for starters... Competition has had better tools for that since over 15 years ago. Some changes to those would be a huge quality of life improvement imo
Not enough for the money. Blender + Houdini is too good. I would never stop using Houdini but I would definitely consider moving to Maxon One with a fair Indie plan. A lot of Houdini users already pay for Red Shift and I would love my destructive workflow to be in C4D.
Great! Needs some real liquids simulations to add
I was hoping for that, maybe in a 2025.x incremental update. At least an SPH modifier for particles, it would probably be slow but it would be something.
Oh yeah, after decades(!!!) they updated particles and pyro (wow), so just wait for like a few years and they will born "some liquid sim" while the other guys jump on to Houdini (spoiler: it's not so hard and scary)
Give them I would say a little 10 years so that they can come with a half fluid solver.
Getting more value oriented thanks to the RS GPU integration.
A step in the right direction, Maxon?
I wonder whether Maxon has ever released an update where its users weren't furious about it being _too little, too late._
Hello everyone! It seems you still haven't fixed the collider issue in Pyro. Here's the gist: an object with the Collider tag still lets through Pyro's fire and smoke. The situation gets worse when the Collider object moves. Pyros smoke and fire simply don't see it and fly right through it. Neither Turbulence FD, or X-Particles, and FumeFX have this problem.
You're sure using "unprecedented" and "unparalleled" a lot for features that's already in Houdini...
@@proceduralcoffee "unprecedented" in a Cinema 4D context doesn't make any sense.
It's more particles, pyro, colour and mograph stuff. I can think of a lot of things that would have been unprecedented or unparalleled to see in C4D, and particles swirling in pretty patterns don't quite fit the definition IMO.
When will prices drop in Latin America?
Maxon is playing with us. I don't see anything important in this Cinema 4d release.
Let's look at an example from Houdini 20.0 to Houdini 20.5 brought tons of new and powerful things, in less than 1 year.
FLIP FLIP WE WANT FLIP
thank you for reinforcing my recent decision to move away from C4D (after 15 years) to Blender.
any tutorials to recommend? I'm exactly the same way :D :D
how long it takes to you switch your workflow?
@@MartinSiuda_cgi few months, still have trouble, but staying with C4D is like staying on a sinking ship. The only people who would disagree are those too afraid to jump ship as they've spent too much of their lives dedicated to learning it. Blender is moving way to quickly for them to ever catch up and every single new artist joining the space is learning on Blender. It's becoming industry standard now and soon C4D will go the way of 3DSmax.
What was a joke several years ago has become a reality unfortunately.
Maxon still refuse to listen to the community, some bugs that have existed for 10 years have never been fixed and all their updates are miniscule in comparison to the other programs. Fk em I say.
@@renderinginprogress LMAO why Blender instead of pro stuff such as Maya or Max? Or Houdini?
"becoming industry standard now" LMAO that's never gonna happen, dude, and what about Max? It's not going anywhere, it's still king in its niche
@@wallacesousuke1433as an animator currently working in the industry, i never saw someone using blender, ever, always 3ds max or Maya.
maxon is just as bad as adobe now, don't give them money
Another boring C4D release video. Fun fact, it starts with examples of former Insydium employee amazing Mario Tran Phuc. Unfortunately the XParticles showreel from 5 years ago has more diverse and complicated examples than this video.
Every 3D software has its own purpose. For example, Cinema 4D (C4D) is great for motion design and MoGraph animations, while Blender and Maya are better suited for modeling. When it comes to character design, ZBrush is ideal. For more procedural operations and simulations, Houdini is the go-to. Personally, I switched from Blender to C4D, and I love it. Blender is excellent for classic animation and modeling, but when it comes to simulations and procedural animation, it falls short. if it will implement more stuff like xparticles maxon i would love it
It is still impossible to create ocean surface, surf, chocolate, honey, milk, water splashes😢😢😢
Does the infinite ocean plugin still work with C4D?
Maxon, enough with too much focus on Mograph, its time to focus on Modeling & Character tools like as seen in Maya and Blender. C4D is serious lacking in these areas. Any character tutorial I see done with C4D is always laughable. I'd never seen any such characters being modeled as seen in Maya, Blender, Iclone etc. Come on guys. If you want us to stick to C4D then you gotta LISTEN to you customer base. This release does not seem like any major Update to noise about.
When will Redshift support the use of material decals, which will make making materials easier🙏
It support decals from months
New bugs, no fluids, Adobe partnering. See you next time.
C4D was working with Adobe and integrated into AE via Cineware back in like 2012. This is hardly new partnering.
Is the Target camera still giving mad problems on M2 mac.
Maxon is a disgrace. Holding good companies like Redshift and Red Giant hostage. Not resolving bugs that's been there for years, for instance Trapcode Particular is barely usable. LIMITING the number of seat switches per day AND increasing the subscription plan price. This is utter GREED.
Back in the day I recommended C4D to everyone getting into the 3D business, now I tell everyone to stay the heck away. Even Adobe's policy pales in comparison to what Maxon's leadership is up to.
Can we get some new features for architecture modeling as well?
Woo hoo!! New bugs!!! Yay...
This version is very stable
@@shawnastromhow can you know.
@@laeternaml I am on the beta and have used it in production for about 3 weeks without any crashes
@@shawnastrom I bet it is full of bugs and we will have to wait another year painfully so they get fixed. Im sorry I don’t believe you.
Okay
i would just appreciate seeing an hybrid version of unrealengine 5 and cryengine, being adapted to render cinema 4d in realtime, straight from its renderer, in order to make it faster and more reliable
x-particles goodbye or not?
3ds max users - wow, new boolean and retopo!
Too expensive. Hate the fact, that you can't buy a license. I hate subscriptions. Will switch to Blender x (
Looks greatr, if I updat will ths break my X particles, Octane and other plugins ?
My redshift sub just expired and my C4D Commercial licence was renewed in Feb 2024.
So how do i upgrade my current „C4D only“ to the „C4D (Redshift Bundle)“ version?
I see „Cinema 4D 1 Year - Conversion from Cinema 4D 1 Year (MX-Y)“ option … but have no idea what that means exactly …
no one uses nodes
What about hair??? What about a proper update to the uv manager? What about the ultra slow rigs? Why are nodes in Houdini and blender MUCH less complicated and yet far more powerful?? Why don’t you have a proper geometry spreadsheet like everybody else? Why can’t you expose the particles in the nodes? Etc etc etc
Compare blender hair, Houdini hair to c4d hairy mess, 🥶🤯
I expected character rigging but nevermind 😢
Да да это все очень интересно, спасибо! Но пацаны сделайте нормальную симуляцию жидкости, как там у вас на западе говорят "common" 2024 г на дворе...
Hey Blender hold my beer!... lol
You just want our money
Now c4d included wiith redshift gpu ?
on my side is still only CPU for cinema 4D licence, so im sticking to octane for now :D
yes, and they increased C4D price for that.
they are forcing us using redshift :(
I switched from cinema 4d to houdini in 2015. Never looked back at this trash software, looks like it has not still developed anywhere 😂
Awesome! ❤
Yeeeeees 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Damn... i changing my mind, i was hyped, but in the end this update is dissapointment :D After years of being in love with C4D i started learning blender, even at the school where Im teaching (C4D), all students want to learn blender because of maxon pricing politics, i dont realy understand why is maxon shooting himself in the leg and slowly letting die sutch a cool software :(
mmmmyyeahh.... 🙄
its so 00' ... nobody use this anymore...
i prefer blender
Soon these 3d softwares are done! Any NOOB gonna be making awesome 3d content with a stupid prompt and an AI! And I can throw away my 25ys of ever learning these packages over and over! It's DONE! Maxon and Autodesk cannot rip off the masses anymore!There is no value anymore in graphic design!
There is no value in anything...
still less featured than blender and more expensive than blender, really not worth it
40% price increase for C4D. weeeeeee
still less featured than blender and more expensive than blender, really not worth it
still less featured than blender and more expensive than blender, really not worth it
Has blender gpu smoke? Or cloth? Or particles? So what are you talking about?
@@Rivental blender stans, man, dont even bother, I bet they spend all day going to videos of industry-standards software in order to comment how Blender is better lol
still less featured than blender and more expensive than blender, really not worth it
@@proceduralcoffee basically 98% blender users after they made their first donut :D
You're poor, stick to Blender. No need to use up comment space here.