Saab 9-3 Leaky Power Steering Pump Fix!
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Man honestly your videos have changed my life because without your videos I would not have been able to keep my car going and I would fell down the social ladder again so thank you
Thank you! Happy to help
nice profile pic!
Thanks for the video. I just picked up the kit and this video made it clear that it's not a complex job. Tons of $$ saved!
Glad it helped!
Couldn’t have done this without this video! Thank you. A few things to note, the metal ring in the cap is a spring and not the seal. I found the cap o-ring in a grove along the shaft a few mils from the top where the metal ring is. Also I found two seals in between the pump and the reservoir, very curious if anyone else has encountered this since the diagram on esaab only shows having one (mine is an 2006). I replaced the one that matched and kept the other on. The second seal was slightly larger and sat one step higher on the reservoir nipple. I also decided to skip doing the two seals that go on the valve where the banjo bolt screws into (thing was way too tight)
Thank you for this post, it was a nice Sunday morning project in the garage. The hardest part was the blind press fit pump shft bushing. You are what is awesome about UA-cam. Thank you for helping me enjoy my '07 Saab 9-3. The steering feels much better now, and no oil spots everywhere.
Glad it helped and you’ve got it solved :)
Nice work! Thanks for very helpful video!
I'm also going to replace the rubber seal!
Glad it helped!
Hey thanks for your video on leaky steering power just rebuilt mine in my 08 saab 93 2.0T easy fix
Happy to help.
Nice info, thanks! I was just going to ask about flushing the system to get rid of the engine oil contamination when I noticed a reply to a comment below that addresses it :)
yep! haha
Nice! Definitely a matter of when, not if, with these leaking.
Very true!
I saw ur video n i bought the essab seals. Tomorrow i should finish it.
awesome
Excellent video. Many thanks!
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The system is leaking and your video is great. I'm going to replace all the seals. Thanks! Question, if the tabs are broken on the reservoir cap can I assume that the system will not pressurize correctly and that could be the cause of the jerkiness that I have even when the reservoir tank is full?
Thanks for the video!
That's exactly what I have to do on mine. Changing seals is the first thing to do since regenerating or buying a new steeringpump is expensive. Let me know what mileage your ride has and if the unit works well now. Thanks for the video, it's so detailed it encouraged me to do this job on my own.
it's got 139k on it!
@@AutoAutopsy So I did it on mine before yesterday following your video. However it's best to use a syringe to empty the black tank and to remove the lower return hose as last to avoid serious mess. :D The most terrifying moment was when during reinstallation of the whole unit the bottom bolt fell and got stuck somewhere on the engine block. I managed to recovered it with a long magnetized screwdriver. The safest way no to drop it is to realign the pump to the engine block with one bolt already inside the bottom bracket, keeping a finger on that bolt. Then it's easy to find the hole, pass the socket key and blindly tighten it.
I also replaced all the liquid inside. You need at least 2 liters to replace the whole cycle. Before pouring new oil I reconnected everything to the pump except the lower return hose. Instead its tip ended up inside a random bottle for waste oil which fits nicely near the battery. I attached an 8mm pvc transparent hose to the remaining open inlet of the tank and raised its end above the level of tank's cap so the liquid won't escape (you can also clog tank's inlet with something). I poured the first dose of Febi 06161 synthetic oil inside the tank. 200-250mm is enough to fill it up. I started the engine for 2-3 seconds (the pump is super efficient), turned it off. In the meantime the pump emptied the tank and spit the old black oil inside the bottle. Then I turned the wheels one time to the left and one time to right (it's very hard, it's easier to do it with your front axle in the air). This pushed out even more dirty oil outside to the bottle. I emptied that bottle. I added the second dose of new oil and repeated everything few times (until I saw the fairly clean green oil coming out of the return hose. Of course it will never be clean, it's always mixed up. I left myself around 500ml of reamining new oil for the final tank refill - it's important. I reattached the return hose to the tank, filled up the tank, closed the tap and started the engine. I let it run for few minutes, turning wheels another few times. This way I removed all the air bubbles from the installation. I checked the oil level, filled it to F. Done :) The smoothness of turning is immediately, significantly improved.
@@Ptaq1990 good info in addition to original video! Very helpful for me as I'm doing this procedure today on my 07' with 108k miles. My steering system has been pumped so full of engine oil that the pump started making noise, so I'm hopeful fresh fluid and seals will be enough.. cheers
@@MN-bm2sy Glad my effort spent to write this comment was helpful! :D
Cheers!
New O-rings recommended on those X injectors. They are cheap insurance, since they are right down in the cooking bowl under the intake and some are near the nuke plant too. might want to send the injectors off to be cleaned and flow tested, if they sat a long time or never have been. Fun projects!
Yes they are on both ends. The top ones are just stuck in the injector feed piping. Typical. One tip when pulling all of that apart. Cold motor, stuff paper towels around underneath of them to catch the fuel that will spill out, be cautious pulling the upper intake off to avoid loose debris like brittle wire loom bits falling into the lower intake and into the cylinders. I almost missed an inch-long section that ended up on the intake valve of #3 and would have been sucked into the cylinder, had I not retrieved it with a cable-grabber. Stuff a rag in each intake runner opening on the motor to keep crap out of them til your done.
for sure! I just picked up new o-rings last night. thanks for the help :)
Vaseline/petroleum jelly on o rings to protect them during installation. Also good to put Vaseline inside the lip of the seals. This helps prevent the seal lip from wearing both the seal and the shaft great video
definitely could help
NO!!! NEVER use vaseline on rubber! It will slowly eat away at it. Use a couple drops of fluid for lube.
@@redgeminipaon nitrile seals it’s all good.
Big help thanks alot helped alot!!
Great video, have a can of carb cleaner handy for quick clean.
yeah, that would have helped lol
A most excellent video, thank you.
I'm watching because I have a 2010 9-3 with 178k miles, and the pump just puked out on the driveway. There's still assist when turning but it's like it's low on fluid, which obviously it is. So I'm guessing the pump's otherwise ok and it's time for a gasket set.
Any idea if the procedure is much different for a 2010?
it's the same to my knowledge!!
Great job well done 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Thank you.
:)
Hello, could you remember the cork oring size (steering pump)? Because in Poland I found it only in one shop and it cost about 50$.
If installing a brand new OEM pump and res do you need to bleed the system?
Didn't you bleed the whole system? By looking at the oil that came out of your pump the entire system will more or less look the same. So you should take the time to get all of that oil out. What i did was to put a jack on the subframe in the front then raise the car up. Then with the wheels free from the ground you can easily turn the steering wheel collecting all the oil coming out of the return pipe for the pump. As you do that you also fill the pump with fresh oil so you don't get any air bubbles in the system. The reason why doing all this is the different viscosity in the power steering oil and the motor oil that has leaked into the system.
Yeah, i didn’t replace all of the fluid, as the point of the video was replacing the gaskets and o-rings. Something I’ll probably do soon, however
I ended up flushing the system with Lucas power steering fluid leak stop and conditioner since it's cheaper than the CHF and will hopefully re-lubricate and condition all of the components in the rack etc. Then I drained and pumped the Lucas out and filed with CHF.. Also prestone makes the CHF fluid and it's slightly cheaper but a smaller bottle. 3 weeks gone by and so far so good!
I got a rebuild kit on e-bay with all the gaskets/ o-rings $34 they were al the right one's kotec sk-9443, they have a great video on you tube on how to do the it all
Ok, I am new to this channel but liking it already. Question for anyone out there- How is motor oil getting into the power steering reservoir?
The pump is driven by being directly attached to the crank case. The two seals done around 7:25 separate the engine oil from power steering pump. When they leak and fail, the fluids exchange.
Hey Jacob! How are the aftermarket seals? Want to do the same on my car but debating on wether to go with the set or go with genuine. Keep up the good work!
seems to have solved my issue entirely
Nice work! You did forget to pull 2 orings on the nut housing that the banjo bolt screws into. I found if you remove that also, you'd see 2 small orings, but these don't commonly leak.
those copper washers? those were already there :)
My 2003 Vector started leaking steering fluid all over and I noticed it's from the cap. Also saw the same bent metal o ring and ordered an upgrade on eBay for $10. Hopefully that will do the trick.
nice
Did it do the trick? Mine has been leaking from the cap and j keep buying new caps and it isn't stopping it 🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
awesome video, just done mine, unfortunately ran out of replacement fluid but so far so good. Without your video i wouldnt have a clue! Do you have to bleed the system once refilled?
Just turn the steering wheel from lock to lock a few times. That will bleed the system.
Don't forget to flush the system so there's only power steering fluid in it. That step was omitted in this video and the PS fluid is now contaminated with engine oil. That's why it's black.
good advice ^ glad i could help
Hello its possible that fluid goes to engine i have problem my fluid disappear non stop but no leak on the floor
Those o-rings sometimes get stuck inside the fuel rail when your'e taking them out. And yes the o rings have to be there. Put a bit of motor oil on the rings when you're installing them in the car, don't install the o-rings dry, they will likely leak.
Thanks for sharing
The injectors are supposed to have orings on them. You can pick up a set of replacements from oorielly's. They are only a few dollars for a set.
thanks! just did last night
Found out the hard way that this does not apply to the 2008. That ring around the shaft that you had a hard time with isn’t meant to be removed on mine. It’s a permanent part .... update: I was 💯 % wrong about this!! It does come out. I figured, what the heck when I thought I’d ruined a permanent part, so I went ruthless on it, and lo and behold, it came out it in one tattered piece! Now I see why you skipped the miserable part! 👍🏾
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Life saver!!
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Would this fix a power steering leak that doesn't show any visible signs it's leaking except the reservoir is low or empty?
Great job. Keep the content coming. Maybe keep some brake cleaner or degreaser handy for these occassions.
Thanks, will do!
Did you put the Bent metal ring back under that cap? It is a spring tensioner to keep the cap snugly locked in place.
i did not
Good imformative👌💪
Glad you liked it
The chf is citroen suspension mineral oil . The power steering takes full synthetic hydraulic oil for vw . Its much better and way cheaper
Nice! I was wondering about how to do this as my MY04 Aero didnt pass testing today.. So i have just placed an order for a seal, and need to get 4 tires also :P Cheers!
awesome! enjoy the repair lol
@@AutoAutopsy i did the repair today and it was allt easier than i thought it would! Thanks alot for the instuctions :D
Should have swapped out all of the old fluid, easy to do, just attach some tubing to the house you disconnected running to a container and run the engine for a minute or so, it will drain, then reconnect the hose and refill the reservoir, run the engine and keep filling it until it tops out
Great job.
I have a power steering leak on my 06 saab 93 but how do I know if my power steering pump is not need to be replaced with a new one?
Thank u.
if your power steering still works i wouldn't worry about replacing the pump
@@AutoAutopsy what if I have to literally put all my muscle into it to turn and it has fluid ? It’s the pump then ?
I bet the Saab loves that green stuff
Hi friend thank you for the great videos can you give me the part no for those o rings and seals?
thank you
I believe it’s shown in the video. If not, the parts diagrams will be available on www.esaabparts.com!
Use a socket that fits over the seal and tap it instead of just hammering all around
thanks for the tip!
Auto Autopsy yeah no problem Iv done that job was more times than I like😩😂 great job otherwise!
Thanks for the tip, it pays to read comments on videos!
We were just replacing vacuum lines and trying to figure out a fluid leak and it looks like this is the culprit. Reservoir is empty and I hear a hissing noise from the pump. So how do you know if it is just rings that need to be replaced vs the pump itself?
the pumps rarely go bad; if it's run dry for an extended time and making noise, I suppose it could be bad
Where to buy the seals?
Is the aftermarket gasket for the lid just a normal rubber O-ring?
i believe so; it caused mine to leak so i just put it back to stock setup for the cap
The brown one is a seal , not an oring . You have to lube it up before hammering it in . Next time use a socket to hammer it evenly
thanks for the tip
What type of lube do you suggest?
Assembly lube is the norm but engine oil should do no harm . Try not to use a grease that is not rated for rubber.
I think that air injection is an American deal... I have a very early '03 Vector (the door tag actually shows it was built in late '02) and that space there doesn't have any device, nor does anything run up to the air-filter.
Interesting! Must be emissions related for us then
We took ours apart and after we were done found a little hard plastic circle
Any idea what this is. I have a pic but can’t post
i'm not sure without a photo. you could try posting on a saab facebook group! it might be the little metal ring that goes on the underside of the cap
any1 know how to get this o-ring kit in europe? Or like dimensions to all the o-rings so that I can order them separately? Couldn't find dimensions on esaab
i don't sorry. you might be able to get info by contacting them though!
Did you eventually find out?
@@Gediminasas sorry no… I found out the problem I thought I had was another problem, I hope you find it!!
Mine was low and making whining noise. I topped off with fluid, purged the air, but the noise persisted. There is definitely leakage from the bottle to pump gasket, but the fluid appears to be clean inside the bottle free of engine oil. Do you think that replacing the seals and filling with new fluid will make the noise go away? Or is it a faulty pump? Power Steering seems to be working.
i'm not an expert, but my initial guess would be your pump is on its way out
I'd like to hear what it was if you have time to answer... Also, tasting just a tip won't kill you (hasn't killed me yet :) - though I'd have paper to tongue afterwards and glass of water to spit out. (There used to be a repairman who had all kinds of fluids 30 years ago where I repaired my cars, so I had to taste - no labels...).
NOTE: Not suggesting you do it, just telling my experiences and how I know if there's something that does not belong. Lol
@@tonikotinurmi9012 I replaced the power steering pump, fluid and all seals. Steering makes a noise when cold outside. I believe the noise is coming from one of the suspension components. The weather is warm now and the boise has disappeared. I will revisit the noise when the cold weather returns.
@@tonikotinurmi9012 I replaced the power steering pump, fluid and all seals. Steering makes a noise when cold outside. I believe the noise is coming from one of the suspension components. The weather is warm now and the boise has disappeared. I will revisit the noise when the cold weather returns.
does anyone know where i can buy rebuild kits for the hydrophilic pistons for the convertible top 2004
esaabparts possibly
@@AutoAutopsy they dont
Top hydraulics will rebuild them for you, in case you don't fint a rebuild kit. Not cheap, but definitely cheaper than buying new.
U just take a 5min to pull the shaft seal out good job i can't take my out am put it back with the old one 😆
oof :/ hope its not damaged at all!
@@AutoAutopsy i have to do that again im short of time🙉
Where can i order parts thanks!!!
esaabparts
Looks like your steering has been running on engine oil. I believe this can end up in the pump via a defective camshaft seal.
that or the fluid is just very old! i don't think it has ever been replaced. my car doesn't leak oil from anywhere..knock on wood..
How the heck did you get that old bushing out at 6:40ish?
Lots of force. It can be difficult. You have to puncture and ruin the seal to remove it
@@AutoAutopsy Yeah, thanks, mine is just chipping away in pieces. 364,000 miles, that maybe original. 05 9-3 Vert. And thanks for the great work on the videos
If I buy a new pump, does all those seals come standard with a new pump?
Good question. Esaabparts will say if you check
I will assume so
so you didn't rebuild the whole pump in this video, which would have required taking off those 4 bolts and replacing another gasket inside the pump. you didn't feel it necessary to do that? i would have figured you might go through that trouble since you already had the pump off and removed.
I didnt, mainly because the esaabparts kit doesn’t include those gaskets and they’re not really available as far as I’m aware
im having to absolutely destroy my shaft seal, it's coming out in many many pieces, all cracked into a bunch of bits
if you're referring to the metal seal, you most likely will need to be destroy it to get it out
I was told by my German guy to just keep the regular fluid in power steering
what do you mean by "regular fluid"?
What you put in everyday cars!
Lol wonder what video he watched to male this one lmaoo
What?
First