Is Cage Diving Ethical? Feat. Shark Bytes
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My biggest question about cage diving has always been: WHY are the gaps in the bars so big!? I get needing to get a camera out, but camera's aren't that big to justify such a large gap in the bars.
Yes it was definitely for cameras. Some cages have been mesh with only a top gap though.
Professional grade cameras with underwater capability are actually pretty large, especially when you factor in additional camera equipment.
@@hostronic not as big as the gaps in the bars though, that's my point. No portable underwater camera is as big as a Great White's face, a face that has breached said bars multiple times (across multiple sharka ofc).
To make it look more adventurous I guess
@ who said anything about them being the most dangerous shark?
And as for "rarely happens", there's plenty of videos of exactly what I described happening. Not rare enough that it's never filmed, eh?
Edit: Always good to see little muppets delete their retarded comments.
Thanks so much for having me on the channel WildWorld - let’s talk sharks again soon 🦈
Love your channel!
wouldn't a shark feel the difference between a camera and a fish? I mean probably the shark does feel the recharging of the flash after a photo. But i don't think thats how a fish would feel like for them.
Hey Chris, I found that clip of the shark breaking through the plastic diving cage, so I figure here is a good place to drop the title for yourself, Wild World and the combined audience to enjoy.
Shark Attack! Diver Swims for His Life! | Great White Open Ocean | discovery+ on the Discovery Plus channel here on youtube. Turns out it was part of a shark week special (good on ya Discovery, this is probably not going to help the image that the poor sharks have got from the media)
Time for me to subscribe 🥰
shark scientist? bull shit .... you study aquatic life not science
Big respect for Rodney Fox. Devoted so much of his life and time to protecting the animals that almost killed him.
One word sums up Rodney Fox, legend. He was attacked not far from my local beach. Aldinga is a lovely beach
isn't there a Aussie couple who spent time studying sharks swell,I think some of there live footage was used in jaws film or films
@@anthonylocke3366 Ron & Valerie Taylor. I echo the Rodney Fox comments; wonderful man.
@@downlink5877 cheers,at the time couldn't think of there names
I was on the boat next to the boat that flipped in 2008. There was 5 of us in the cage. I remember the horizon vanished as the wave moved in, then we started getting pulled out of the cage and back onto the boat. At first i thought it was due to the massive great white that turned up and swam under us, when i looked up on my knees, the boat next to us was up side down and i remember seen about 19 people in the water around it, there was about 9 great whites in the area at the time, ranging in age, none went anywhere near the people, in fact the only interest the shakes given to what was happening was a young shark bitting a life vest and pulling it under the water, only for it to pop back to the surface, then the shark went back for it, kind of like a dog playing with a ball.
We didnt know that anyone had died until we got back to shore, that someone had drown on the boat and 2 others was killed on the beach when the wave hit the shore.
I do know that if our boat had flipped also, i wouldnt be here today, as there would have been no way for the 5 of us to get out of the cage due to the weights we had on around our waste. All in all we were at the diving location for no more than 20 mins, it was a very over cast and cool morning. I'll remember it till the day i die.
Oh shit. I was on the boat that flipped a mere 3 weeks before the boat flipped.
I saw how big and full those Chum buckets were. You seriously still think that person drowned? Lol
That's crazy. Thanks for sharing your story. Glad you were safe and made it away unharmed.
@@chrish4439 really really weird of you to say to someone who literally witnessed it. There would’ve been visual cues if that happened. Maybe use your common sense and be a bit more sensitive.
I was there when jesus died
@@majormarketing6552 but the thing is, I was lol I even have a picture of the flipped boat.
I read in an article once about shark attacks on tourists holidaying in the Red Sea. The strange thing was that they weren’t killing people, mostly just biting off a person’s hand and leaving. Investigators found the cause was the livestock exports travelling up the Red Sea (a practice which my country takes part in, I’m ashamed to say). Whenever an animal died, they’d get tossed off the ship. More sharks appeared in the Red Sea following these ships to eat the dead livestock tossed overboard.
We fined a ship in Egypt for that. Those idiots put so many at risk
Tiger sharks like to take a bite and leave. Many shark attacks are territorial like those on surfers. If it’s not territorial, and they are looking for food, they might not want to eat something that’s lean and bony like a human unless they’re really, really hungry. They’re looking for animal fat, first.
God forbid a country exports livestock!
because sharks don't eat people, they take a bite and realise that u taste terrible
@@lemqnshark Is this a joke? Sharks absolutely eat people. There have been numerous examples of this.
This is a high-quality discussion video, thank you for putting in the time and effort. I’ll definitely be back for more.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate the support 😃.
I've been watching "the malibu artist" a lot, (a dude who's filming sharks from above with a drone. It's super interesting. You learn a lot about their interactions with humans and how often we actually are super close to each other)
The malibu artist is great. His videos are awesome.
In 2009 during a vacation in South Africa I had the amazing privilege of participating in a GW cage diving tour just outside of Gaansbai, in the well-known Shark Alley. It is a narrow, fairly shallow channel between two rocky islands just off the coast of Gaansbai. These rocky islands are the parenting grounds for tens of thousands of seals. As such this area has always been a feeding ground for GWs.
We selected our tour guide, company and boat with the greatest amount of ecological background in mind. Back then they had already drawn up plans to buy and implement an electric powered boat. Their cages already had very narrow gaps, as well as a jump cage protection bar reaching out over the water to make certain that sny GWs using their standard hunting procedure of rising straight from the depths in a vertical attack wouldn't accidently land inside the cage.
Their chumming was done with only the detritus of standard fish caught for human consumption. The intestines, internal organs, fish heads, etc not sold to humans were ground into a thin sludge and watered down at least 2 parts water to 1 part fish sludge. No significant fish parts were left in the sludge to act as food. Only the scent of blood and fish parts was left to attract the GWs.
No fish bait on lines were used. Instead a silouette of a seal was cut out of foam or old, unusable wetsuits, and dragged behind or the sude of the boat, but on the opposite side of the cage.
The divers themselves were only given wetsuits, but no scuba diving gear except a mask. No flippers, no snorkels. This made the cage divers surface regularly to breathe in above water, then pull themselves back underwater. You could only stay underwater as long as you could hold your breath.
This was done so that the sharks wouldn't even associate the noise of airbubbles from scuba gear with the potential for food. Our tour company even went so far as to turn off their boats engine and rely only on their permanent anchoring point which had been submerged in shark alley. This was all done to reduce noise.
As far as I could see that company tried their very best to surpass any minimum requirements of the law by many steps to protect the sharks, as well as keep them from changing their behavior.
I had the incredible privilege of seeing not one, but two GWs during my tour. One, a magnificent female even tried a little test bite in the corner of the cage, less than 50 centimeters from my foot. It was quite obviously nothing serious as she immediately swam off afterwards.
But this experience left me feeling with a great sense of gratitude and astonishment for having witnessed these magnificent animals in their natural habitat. I can only support the continued protection as well as research into these important predators. Show them the respect they deserve. They truly deserve it.
with regards to the downturn in the Great White Shark population in South Africa, if she was referring to the populations around Cape Town, it is very likely due to the presence Orcas. It is well documented that a few years back Orca moved into the area and were hunting the Great Whites. The sharks practically disappeared from the area, and have only recently started to return. My sister surfs regularly around Kommetjie and so has her ear to the ground with regards to the shark news in and around Cape Town 😂
I love sharks and have encountered a few while scuba diving near where I live, off the east coast of South Africa, but no Great Whites yet...
aweh they were in gansbaai for about 3 weeks, real good activity but then disappeared again abt 2 months ago. had like 8 great whites daily, but ya the orcas came back. the great whites in mosselbaai have also been missing for quite a while after orca reports
Glad I read the comments before I posted because you took the words right out of my mouth. I've seen the same study about this on a doco regarding that exact subject in Cape. Fascinating that the Whites aren't actually top of the food chain. Deadly predators are and have advantages of numbers over the whites. I reckon if whites knocked around in crews the orca's wouldn't f@*k with them. 🤣👍
You are wrong
@@derkjh you're wrong
Sharks are such spectacular animals. It's a shame many of them are close to extinction like so many other species in our world...
I'm hopeful some will sneak past us. They've made it through too many extinctions to leave now
China and their fin soup BS
It's the chinese
I had the pleasure of meeting Rodney Fox as a kid in the 90s at his home/museum dedicated to sharks. He is so enthusiastic to help people to learn about them, I used to be scared of them but meeting him helped me appreciate them and now I adore them. I hope I get to meet him again as an adult and nerd out at him about sharks! :D
Have you seen 47 Metres Down? If I were to go cage diving my biggest fear would be something going wrong with the equipment leading to a gruesome watery death. Otherwise it just sounds really exciting and fun! As long as the sharks are safe and happy too
I agree, with any shark diving tour the thing that scares me most is something going wrong with the breathing apparatus. I thought 47 meters down entertaining. Shark bytes made a pretty fun reaction to 47 meters down. You should check it out.
I saw 47 meters down. It ruined me!!🙂
There’s no way I can even contemplate getting in a shark cage after seeing that movie. Scared the living daylights out of me
@@amyfeldman5301 Maybe not one run by sketchy guys you just met who don't care about the safety regulations.
@@mika6985 that’s what I was about to say! I’d suggest finding a reputable company if you wanna do it, preferably one that is highly rated for their safety
With regards to the likely hood of being attacked by a shark, it’s so easy to avoid it by staying out of the water unless you swim in a swimming pool. Those who choose to swim in the sea or rivers need to understand that there is always going to be the possibility of a wild animal and yourself coming into contact with each other. So by choosing to swim in the sea/river, you are doing so at your own risk, but reality is your more likely to die on the road traveling to the beach/estuaries than being bitten by a shark. Surfers and the friends/family understand the risks they put themselves in when doing the sport they love and are more than willing to accept that risk…no different to stepping out of your home everyday…
Rule of thumb- if you leave the city you rejoin the food chain and humans have never been at the top.
@@Jane-oz7pp who’s to say we ever left?
@@Jane-oz7pp My rifle literally puts me at the top, and its not even close.
@@shanetuma3845 You swim with your rifle?
@Darren Pritchard, I grew up in Florida and my grandfather had his own in ground pool business, and he and the fellas would all joke and laugh about business-related issues. You would not BELIEVE how many alligators end up on private swimming pools… even ones with chain link fences, because gators can scale the type of fence!!😱
You missed out Peter Gimbel in your brief history of cage diving. Gimbel is always forgotten. Gimbel had self submersible cages in the 1960s and used them in the filming for the iconic documentary Blue Water White Death (1969-70). I don't believe Rodney Fox was doing this prior to Gimbel. I could be wrong about that, but in Blue Water White Death Rodney never referenced his own cages, and Ron Taylor certainly hadn't been in a cage before. Had Fox been operating cages for great whites prior to Gimbel, then how come his good friends the Taylors didn't go in them until the Gimbel expedition for Blue Water White Death?
On his website, Rodney says he has been doing shark tours since 1965, but that 1965 trip was simply an above surface boat expedition with Ron Taylor, Henri Bource and shark fisherman Alf Dean. It was simply a fishing expedition and they killed around half a dozen great whites on that trip.
Please correct with any information if I'm wrong. Cheers.
True true
Regarding the data of shark attacks, people need to remember that correlation doesn't equal causation.
And there's a thing called statistical significance
I dove with bull sharks in Mexico and we did that without cages and lures. Just went to the spot where the sharks are often hanging around near the sandy bottom feeding on conch snails. That was a cool experience. You gotta be a certified diver to be able to do that, though.
I’ve never cage dived but I have dived in Belize and encountered a few Caribbean reef sharks.They were magnificent to see. So calm, just swimming and minding their own business.
What a fascinating video! I’d never considered this topic before :)
Cage diving took my love of sharks to a new level. I am typing this from a resr stop on the way to an internship interview at the Georgia aquarium. I'm doing volunteer work in south africa next year. Sharks have become my life
marine dynamics?
@@janevermeulen4915 it will be Great White Shark Project. It's a mix of helping tourists cage dive, and researching different animals, mainly Great whites
Dam I wish I cared about something that much..
@@charleschristianson2730 I'm 4 hours from the aquarium and driving there once every other week for volunteer work. They say once you get to work for your passion, you'll never work a day in your life, and that's how I feel
@@ryankruize4296 That's awesome! Most folks never find that. You're very fortunate.
Putting fish chum in plastic cage attracting shark to get at it, is literally teaching shark to attack caged human.
One shark attack researcher found after travelling the world interviewing people who had survived attacks.
What he found out after careful questioning was that often people who had been attacked remembered emptying their bladder in the water minutes before the attacks.
Perhaps this is what could possibly draw the sharks to occasionally zoom at the cage. Just a thought.
I have read in a few different shark books that human urine does have a chemical that is in seals I think it was
@@allenaramirez8857
Interesting, thanks.
Aluminum does rust in salt water however most people don't realize this because it doesn't rust in the "traditional" sense where we see a bright redish brown colouration like we do with iron. When aluminum oxidizes (otherwise known as rusting) it produces a white powdery substance.
I went cage diving in Port Lincoln in 2019. It was a life long dream come true!
On the way back to shore, there wasn't a single person on board who had a negative view of sharks. Everyone had developed strong respect and awe for sharks by the end of the trip.
While there are some negatives to cage diving, it really does play a part in changing public perceptions.
Awesome video!! I’ve been watching shark bytes channel for a while. I just love sharks in general really. Thanks for making this!! ♥️
Thanks for watching!
Cage diving is on my bucket list. When I tell people who know me, they are absolutely gobsmacked. I hate swimming, and I’m claustrophobic. But sharks are just something I’ve always been utterly fascinated by.
Thank you for teaching me about how to begin to seek ethical dives. And for tips for things shark lovers can do to help their conservation and quality of life!
I've wanted to go cage diving my whole life ever since I knew it existed. Sharks are beautiful and elegant creatures that I admire so much. I have a great respect for them, just like every wild animal. I wish people would stop killing them.. 🦈💙
I’ve always wanted to do this! I heard it was unethical so I tried not to think about it. Now that I know it’s not harmful, I’m planning my next vacation around shark cage diving.
Thank you both for such an informative video. I've always wanted to cage dive but have concerns about the ethics, after hearing about attacks in Egypt from sharks that were patrolling the dive sites expecting to be fed.
Cage diving with sharks was something I had always wanted to do. Even from a young age. In Long Island, NY there was an aquarium (idk if its still there) that had a very large tank with sharks (not great whites, they were thin) and you could go into a cage down for half an hour or so to look at them. My father and I wanted to go, but my mom stopped us. Looking back, I think she saved so many useless beach trips because I wouldn't have gone in the water if I saw a shark figure coming from the dark depths onto me in that cage. Now that I am older, I really do want to do it in the wild in like South Africa or Australia.
i’ve actually been diving at that aquarium, i was scared shitless looking into the tank from the outside but once you’re in it’s so beautiful, i couldn’t even focus on how scared i was because i was so fascinated with the sharks swimming around me
if you ever have the opportunity i’d definitely recommend, they’re very safe and all the equipment is really easy to use, all you have to do is breathe and echo-localize(i think that’s what it’s called) your ears
I think shark cage tourism raises similar questions as zoos in general. They have the positive effect of raising awareness for the animals, they could theoretically be done with proper respect and some distance for the animals, and some operators go to great length to take the ethics seriously, but overall the sum of the effects is bad. They interfer and change natural behavior. The rarer sharks become, the more aggressive will they be baited. Getting predators used to be near humans is getting them killed.
Changing the behavior of an animal is something that is impossible to avoid as a whole since, despite our attempts to isolate ourselves from nature, we are very much in a macro ecosystem where everything in it constantly reacts to everything else. I feel like the term "natural behavior" is a bit disingenuous and overly romanticizing, as if the human presence is some sort of offense against an idealized natural order. It isn't. It is ironically where natural evolution has led to. With that said, there is still plenty of discussion to be had surrounding the ethics vs logistics of zoos, chum diving, etc. But I feel like concerns over changing the perceived "natural behavior" of an animal is just being overly idealistic. Change is inevitable.
Grandstanding aside. Chummed dives bad. Zoos good. Interfering with behavior is kinda impossible to avoid. We should discuss how it can be done responsibly.
@@JustSomeDinosaurPerson There's a huge difference between the way an animal behaves as a result of our presence and the ways that we intentionally manipulate their behaviour for a desired effect. The latter is clearly what Eljan was talking about. Instead of actually responding to that, you've taken this very uncontroversial opinion and used it as an opportunity for some philosophical grandstanding about how nature vs humanity isn't a real thing.
Divers hand feeding sharks has been proved to cause shark bites.
No its the fear built around sharks (great whites more so) that gets them killed. Despite them not even being a danger.
Also a lot of ppl don't realize how awesome zoos are and how well the animals are treated.
This channel is really good. I can't believe u don't have more subscribers
I like your videos! They seem well researched, unbiased and calmly presented without hype. 👍🏻
Glad you like them!
🦁.@@wildworld6264 Hey mate, just recently subscribed to your channel, & I've binge watched all of your videos, & enjoyed everyone of them, especially enjoyed the T. Rex video, people really need to why that animal is so popular & impressive, why it's everyone's number I & deserves to be king, & you nailed the hammer on every point.
In fact, myself used to think that the T. Rex was such a generic choice for favourite dinosaur, until what I've recently learnt about it (which probably why the T. Rex vs Spino fight in JP III pissed me off so much, it was basically the Joel in I moment for dinosaurs, fuck Jack Horner).
Though as cool as the Rex is, it's not my number I favourite dinosaur, that honour belongs to Triceratops, which brings me to my question for you, well more of a video suggestion really, Triceratops & Torosaurus, the same animal or different species? what do you think? Also, thank you for recommending Shark Bytes channel, I'm going to be checking out his next.
@@kingjerrodthelionofhousegoo854 Thanks for the sub. I honestly think Shark Bytes makes some of the best shark content on UA-cam, I hope you enjoy his channel.
I also went through a similar phase with the T-Rex. Loved it as a young kid and then thought it was a bit generic but when I learned more about it as I got older I started liking it again.
To be honest I don't know very much about the Triceratops and Torosaurus debate but it sounds interesting and I'll look into it. I'm always looking for more video ideas so I appreciate the suggestion.
Thanks again!
Have a great day!
🦁.@@wildworld6264 Awesome, glad you acknowledged my comment. Shark Bytes' channel has been interesting to say the least, so far.
Also, glad you took my video idea into consideration, & speaking of video ideas. I'm not sure how recent this was officially announced or if I'm just really late to the party & everyone knows about this, but myself was sadden to recently hear that Troodon is no longer a distinct species, in other words, this dinosaur doesn't exist anymore despite it being in so much popular media (such as Jurassic Park The Game in which they were pretty cool & the JWE games), docos (such as Prehistoric Park) & all books about dinosaurs (& still is).
Don't know if that would make a good video or not, but it would be nice to have someone of note on UA-cam such as yourself acknowledge this animal's invalidation/funeral, that's if the information I've come to learn is correct, which would be great if this animal still exists & what I've learnt is complete bullshit, but it doesn't look as though that is the case. Anyways, I'll let get on with your day. Thank you.
@@kingjerrodthelionofhousegoo854 Thanks, that's also a great suggestion. Have a good day!
Cage diving doesn’t seem safe ENOUGH for me. I LOVE sharks, but not trying to be in the water with them. Didn’t work out so well for Matt Hooper (he died in the book). 🤣🦈
I had no IDEA cage diving was an actual industry!! I thought I knew a lot about Great Whites, too!! Amazing!
It seems like a minuscule amount that may make sharks attracted to boats as there are more than 50,000 white sharks swimming around so the amount of sharks encountering cages seems pretty low.
Very interesting video, thanks. It has long been on my "bucket list" to go cage diving to see sharks, especially great whites.
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Cage diving in Guadalupe Island is the most incredible adventure.
I would love to go to southern Australia and cage dive with Andrew and Rodney Fox expedition.
I love the shark toy on the wall behind the scientist! 🦈
Ron and Valerie Taylor did the live shark coming in Jaws! They got that awesome part of the great white tearing apart that shark cage
There are currently 2 orcas in the oceans around South Africa that have been terrorising the great whites. I think they have found something like 7 great whites washed up ashore that have had their livers bitten out. Thoughts are it is these 2 orcas that have discovered the tasty shark livers, the sharks are now avoiding those areas and not returning like they usually would.
There’s drone footage of a couple Orcas literally killing a great white & eating the liver- I imagine it’s them- I think was South Africa; it’s really alarming there have been more than one!!
My biggest takeaway was when did I get so interested in sharks
Another great video!
My opinion: The shark cage has a slight percentage behavior and a HUGE risk in teeth. Most don’t know that shark teeth are incredibly sharp… but incredibly weakly held in the jawbone.
The unethical component is chumming the water, putting the sharks in hunting mode and sitting in a metal cage, of which a single investigative bite could cost the shark hundreds of teeth and if severe enough, risk starvation and death. I would love to see these amazing creatures as well, however if you are not advancing research that results in conservation, the risk of tooth loss or death to the shark is not worth the benefit of touristic viewing.
9:40 sharks have been seen following cruise ships from journey start to finish. The association is definitely there
Great video. Thank ya
This is the first Wild World video ive come across, I had no particular interest in sharks (not to say I dont find them fascinating) but you presented the topic in such a way that it was engaging and entertaining to the point that it made me care about the topic. Im looking forward to seeing the rest of your content!
😊 This collab is so cool
I feel like mainstream cages oughta be outlawed, and instead cylinder transparent plastic cages would be the better alternative: Sharks cannot get caught in them, it's harder for anything to wrap its jaws around big and round, it's better visibility and if made by surstainable material i'd be better for the envoirment, and by having it sink by lead, and making the cage float people would have no real posibility of being dragged to the bottom and drown
Are you sure plastic can really be a strong enough material to protect against a great white shark attack? Otherwise I agree. First priority is the cages should be as safe for both the humans and the sharks as possible. And second they should have the best possible view that would allow
@@zakosist most plastic compared to the strength of steel, the steel wins, however the angle that a plastic cage would be, being circular, the only sharks with big enough jaws to actually attach them upon the cage would be whale sharks. Great white not have a large enough bite to grip the cage. But a great point you brought up
@@madsthorgaard6335 even if it cant bite the cage, what about ramming into it?
@@zakosist i suppose then the cage oughta be made of two layers of plastic with something transparent and absorbent like aerogel, or some substance like it: though that begs the question of cost contra the income it would bring…
I feel like if I’m not watching this at 2x speed you’ll fall asleep halfway through the video
Now I heard this from an Australian diver.The man said sometimes they feel the chumming those companies are doing for cage diving are to close to shore.Which the diver said to me is bringing the sharks closer to shore towards people it becomes very dangerous .
If you have to ask, it more than likely is unethical, especially when they bleed & die trying to free themselves from a cage, which should never have an opening... appalling & horrifying
lisa im not sure you heard what they said companies are doing more tweaking to the cages so the cages are made more safe for humans and sharks i agree there shouldnt be a big opening maybe they can have some sort tempered glass that cant brake as well as people should do reaserch to check for shady companies
Missed the chance to include the shark breaking through the clear cage
Aluminium actually does corrode in salt water bro. It has a white oxide layer form. Especially if there is electrolysis going on.
Good thing he’s a marine biologist then 😂
I went shark cage diving in south Africa with the same company, on the same boat that flipped in 2008, THREE WEEKS before it flipped.
Those 3 people apparently "drowned". In shark invested water. In the middle of their hunting grounds. And a GIANT like 10'x6'x4' chum "bucket".
Ya. Fucking. Right. They were definitely eaten 🙃
I went cage diving off Port Lincoln and they used rock music not chum.
The gap on that cage was TOO large. Such a shame
Matey got a fresh eyebrow job for this one 😂
Thank you, this came in handy for my higher folio research :)
Glad it was helpful!
That the title question exists at all is strong evidence for the deterioration of the concept, "ethics."
It’s cruel shark tanking as it’s food that drawn to them, so we are disturbing their natural feeding habits.
If its done too often it could even prevent the shark from actually feeding enough and waste its energy on a "fake meal" instead. If done on a rare occasion that is probably insignificant, but without actual rules and follow up on these rules to limit the practice, its probably gonna get overdone
When I was in college, I wrote a paper as an assignment for my senior research class about shark finning and one thing I wrote about was how cage diving would be more economical rewarding than catching the sharks for fins. The article I used said that cage diving will bring in more revenue and possible change peoples perspectives on sharks. I’m pro cage diving as long as it’s done in a safe and responsible manner.
I didn’t even think twice if it was ethical and just assumed it didn’t have any negative impacts so I’m glad you were able to give me a fresh perspective
Kris is awesome. My favorite shark dude , he knows his stuff and he's pretty funny.
I completely agree
Bait law. Never heard anyone ever promise lure like this
I watched a documentary about Orcas attacking sharks in certain areas and then sharks won’t frequent that area after a while. Orcas have a new way of hunting sharks for their livers and it’s quite frankly terrifying.
the shark cage in the meg is perfect for how shark cages should be made
a good show which exlains training behavior of tiger sharks is "the Sharks of Headstone Hell"
Great work 🍁🦈🇨🇦
Thank you for all your kind comments 🙏
Great video!!
I really want to go cage diving, its on my bucket list. I love sharks, but im afraid that they go extinct...
What do you think?
It's on my bucket list also.
Could it have something to do with the water temperature changes driving the sharks elsewhere. I live in New England, and we have seen a significant increase in Great Whites over the past few years. A great White sighting was rare 10 years ago and now 8 where observed swimming around a buoy close to shore.
Rodney Fox here in South Australia 🇦🇺 is the only one that does ocean floor. He not only takes you cage diving but teaching you to respect their environment..
Basic shark cage design would seem to require keeping the sharks out, but what do I know?
cant believe he didn't say fishues instead of shark issues smh
I live on the south Texas coast 5min from south padre island it is located on the southern most tip of Texas making it one of the largest grouping of sharks and shark species per square mile at one time during major migration months. You mostly find theses big grouping of sharks close to shore lines between 100 to 800 yards or in the bay area. We regularly catch 8 to 12 ft sharks 100 to 300 yards from the shore and off shore cage diving is not a big market in our area if it is done at all it is mainly done by researchers and conservationists. We also have very little to report in shark attacks, most times shark attacks that are reported are due to fisher men wade fishing or kayaking with fish on the stringers or chumming is involved. I personally have had big sharks brush against my legs or small sharks swim between my legs on multiple occasions while never being bitten as long as you don't freak out leave them alone, they will leave you alone too.
That sounds very interesting. I'd like to go there someday. What kind of sharks do you usually see?
@@wildworld6264 I’m from that area. It’s a lot of black tip sharks, bullsharks, and a couple of times I’ve seen some pretty tigers.
I feel like cage diving needs some tweaking to be more safe to people and sharks. For example, making the cages with smaller gaps, so sharks can’t get stuck and injured, or injuring people.
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So now I understand the meaning of chum bucket
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By definition chumming changes trhe shark behaviour. It draws them to a location they would probably not be otherwise.
That is why chumming is used - to change the shark's behaviour. If chumming didn't change the shark's behaviour operators whould not go to the trouble and expense of chumming.
They are already in the areas where the cage dives take place. Cage diving operators pick areas known for great white shark convergence. The chumming only attracts sharks that are already in the general vicinity anyway.
Cage dive sites are usually close to pinniped colonies.
Just keep in mind that money rules everywhere and everything. If the people cage diving were not there, the shark finning boats would be. There is no money without cage diving. Regardless or what anyone says, cage diving saves shark lives just by being there.
going to where food is is animal behavior
Yes, but there is still a difference between changing behavior there and then, and changing habits over time
Can you make a video on megalodon vs livyatan ?
"You cannot cantain life, life breaks free, life, finds a way"
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People don’t think sharks associating with boats isn’t that bad until you’re on a sinking boat 😅
I do want to go cage diving I love sharks I think they are such a neat creature! That being said I do wanna do it the safest way for me and for the shark, do you know of any places on the east coast of the USA that gives cage diving trips ?
How about a glass (or what ever needed) bottom boat. I don't want to have to get all that crap on me to see the sharks up close. Though I would go in a boat that under water where I can just stay dry and able to breathe. Others can go in a cage , and still others run the risk if getting eaten alive. I just want the good without the bad.
This sounds like less an issue of the cage and more of the peripheral stuff
I'm confused. How does a great white shark rest? They have to continue swimming at all times or they'll drowned.
Think I can help with this one! White sharks can enter resting phases where they aren’t using their entire brain. This means they can still swim (usually in a giant circular pattern), to pass water across their gills. There are some thoughts out there in the scientific community that white sharks enter gulleys and almost sit motionless, it’s thought there may be currents strong enough in these locations to still be able to pass water across their gills ensuring they can breathe.
Awesome video as always
Great White Sharks - Human sleeping bags
Since the first time I saw them I'm impressed with the size.
Cage diving. The first time I saw it it was in films from Jacques Cousteau.
I thought it's amazing to engage with those animals in a safe environment.
Tourism is always the question that it's made safe. For the animal as for the human.
I don't think a great white will necessary starve because it spend some time at a cage. I once saw films were some data was told about how long a shark can live with a meal.
I'm for sure not an expert. So let me ask a simple question. Do great white sharks have to constantly eat to survive? If not, the cages can't be too hurtful. It's just another distraction on it's trip through the oceans. (it all depends on the food on the 'shark road')
What really can be dangerous is overfishing and the related problems and climate change (the water temperature). If the sharks food is starting to get spare then every second counts. But...then the animal is anyways as good as dead.
So again. Does it really matter?
The most important thing to safe Sharks is to ensure the environment is still favorable for the animals. Food, temperature and so on.
You talked about shark attacks. Also at beaches. What I missed was the general information about daytime. What I heard in many films, videos was that sharks are often active close to beaches at the morning and evening hours.
That is a very important factor when it comes to shark attacks.
Why? Because people who are taking their bath at the ocean in the morning and late hours when sharks are most active...the shark can't be blamed.
Sharks don't know human and they taste and spit out. That's what they usually do to humans.
*raises hand* I weld aircraft for living, so I work with magnesium, aluminum, titanium, mild steel, inconel stainless steel and cobalt. There's not a welder or hinge on earth I trust enough to put me next to one of those sharks.
Take me at my word folks. View the sharks from your phone or computer monitor. 😅
Brother's an engineer, can confirm.
Sharky sharky.
Yeah most chumming is done with cut up pieces of fish that the sharks for sure get to enjoy
Idk anything about the technical implications of this but wouldn't it solve the problem of sharks getting stuck and killing or hurting themselves or people getting grabbed if the gap wasn't there or there was some kind of thin strong semi see through mesh around it? Sure the view wouldn't be as good but at least the sharks and people would be safer and still get to observe the sharks.
Yeah I think the plan is to reduce the gap size and hopefully make it too small for sharks to get stuck. I think there are some boats that have a glass pod attached too. It seems some people want a gap so they can put there cameras out to get footage and photos though.
cage diving doesn't the material used to make cages interfere with sharks sensors?
do sharks get harmed attacking cages?or as some footage ive seen on youtube where a shark was halfway in a cage,does it get injured, any slightest injury would make a shark disabled?
I know that in Australia abalone divers and blue water spear fishers are concerned about cage dives which I now see is reasonable IF the cage dive companies give food rewards to the sharks
The bars are too far apart in these cages. Make them to where a shark can’t get their heads in there, so they don’t get hurt. The shark was looking for the bleeding animal, and since the bait was eaten, the shark was looking for more food. These companies should only chum several miles away from swimmers.
Sharks are awesome! 💟💟💟
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So what exactly killed the shark was it simply just the collision it afflicted upon it's self? On that short video clip it seems it just knock itself tonic. Can someone please do explain thx in advance.