Is the Tasmanian Tiger STILL Alive?
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- Опубліковано 16 бер 2023
- In this video, we're going to talk about the thylacine, a creature that many believe is extinct but which some people believe still exists. We'll discuss the cloning surrounding the thylacine and discuss whether or not it still exists.
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I keep getting comments that 1936 isn't thousands of years ago. To be clear I'm saying that the extinction of the thylacine on mainland Australia was thousands of years ago.
Evidently people don't listen very well. I thought you made that very clear.
You did make it clear. Keep in mind though that now there has been more sightings in mainland Australia rather than Tasmania. So either way the extinction theory is incorrect. There has been multiple possible sightings in Victoria near Ballarat. Also in NSW and most credible is the sightings in Cape York northern tip of Qld.
I hope I'm wrong, but I think the Thylacenes have gone forever.
@@tristamyers1910 Oh yes those great photos from far far away you can see what it is but it proves thylacines and alien spaceships exist until you realise its a commercial airplane!
@@paulgriffiths7399 Yet not one hair, pooh, corpse, bone of the yeti, lochness monster, vampire or thylacine!
May not be strictly relevant here, but miss-identification can work both ways. Last summer my mom found a small owl laying on her patio, apparently ill. Thinking it's a juvenile barn owl, she took the bird indoors and nursed it back to health over the following days, as a retired MD and long time animal lover she had a pretty good idea how to achieve that, but she also sent a few pictures to a veterinarian friend for a bit of specialized advice. To everyone's surprise the vet told her it wasn't a baby barn owl, but an adult from an extremely rare and endangered species (in our area), they initially planned to get it to a specialized conservation center but the bird got better much faster than expected and flew off just a couple of days later. It didn't leave the area though, slept in mom's barn for more than a month and still comes around her garden every now and then.
Oh owl Friend
What was the name of the species?
'inflated sensors'? Perhaps you meant infrared, they'd be a little smaller...
@@jacksparrow2351 You could probably boil up some museum dried ones !!!
A small brown owl flew into my truck a couple months ago and got stuck in the grill, it died but I was wondering if it was a juvenile but it looked so developed I was wondering if it wasn't a small full grown owl. Happened in Evington Va
Years ago I saw a canine that looked like a cross between a fox and a wolf. This was in the mountains in Japan and I thought what a strange looking animal it was. Then I saw a stuffed Japanese wolf one day and my jaws dropped since I was told they were extinct. Can’t prove it was a Japanese wolf but sure gives me hope. Hope the Aussie tiger is still around.
Are you sure it was not just a tanuki?
@@harubynspades the tanuki looks more like a cross between a fox and a raccoon
Was this on the main island, Honshu, or the northern island, Hokkaido? There were two species of Japanese wolf, the Hokkaido wolf is almost indistinguishable from other eurasian wolf species, while the Honshu wolf has a more distinctive shape and is smaller.
@@harubynspades positive. I know what Tanukis look like.
@@tau-5794 central Nagano, near the Yatsugatake range. Actually saw it twice, two days apart.
One of the saddest things about this is seeing the bare concrete enclosure that the poor creature was kept in. That it died due to being locked out of it's sleeping enclosure doesn't speak well for the care the animal was given.
Its so fucking ridicolous to me. You have one of maybe THE last individual of a species, and you don't even give it proper living conditions and make sure it can get inside during freezing weather? Who the hell was running that operation.
I remember zoo's in America full of concrete.
It made my jaw drop too!
I think responsibility for our wild animals and also compassion for them is a relatively modern concept. Zoos (still many today) were almost entirely soulless prisons, circuses were universally popular, hunters shot everything in sight. (See "buffalo hunting from railway" 😰) Dogs on chains were a fixture in ordinary households.... I think things might be improving. Slowly.
Parts of that zoo is still there. Its on the turn off from the southern outlet, went past it everyday going to college. I may or may not have tried to explore it a little, the whole place screams abuse and death. most abandoned places are creepy but this has a similar feel to an abandoned asylum where you can almost feel some kind of spirit or something lingering.
My takeaway here is that we should protect the environment as much as possible *even if* there aren't any thylacines left in the wild.
good comment, lg-nat-ius :)
Louder for the fools in the back
You just nailed Australian conservation issues in one sentence. Preserve a few remaining areas or greedy knuckleheads will turn them all into high rise housing with an open cut next door.
@@waukivorycopse2402, was about to say the same thing
That’s right 100%
The idea of Thylacine being alive in Papa New Guine is plausible, the black-naped pheasant pigeon was recently rediscovered after 140 years of it's supossed extinction there.
Big difference between 140 years and 2000+ years.
@@analcommando1124 While I don't think any are left alive, the Tasmanian Tiger died out 87 years ago.. where are you getting 2000+ years from?
@@analcommando1124 what do you mean?
@@analcommando1124 Yeah, one is verifiable, the other is a wild guess by "experts".
true
Humans hope that they aren't extinct so that we can possibly make up for our mistakes. Unfortunately we can't.
True, though we seem to be making progress in cloning Thylacine, so we might be able to undo this mistake. In regards to sightings: Even if they did still exist, their population would likely be way too small to be genetically healthy.
Doing the same with the dingo right now. Up to $120 state paid bounty per scalp in most states as well as state laws that make it illegal for property owners not to eradicate any dingo sighted on their land. Not to mention the aerial 1080 baiting for Dingoes over national parks.
@Boco Corwin get a life dude. No one is directly blaming you for it. Doubtful you were alive for the either of those
Mistake? We are nature you twits.
Damn, you are such a downer.
Friends Ex worked for the Tasmanian devil breeding project around 2005 after the face cancer dramas. The team lived for months in the southern forest's of Tassie, tagging and capturing devils for breeding. Many reports from the team, the tigers are still out there.
Did they ever find out why the devils were getting so much face cancer?
@@annapocalypsezero4719 They think it was related to a pesticide used in the plantation forests, but could never prove it.
@@annapocalypsezero4719 Wasn't it due to inbreeding messing up the immune system?
@@jacklang3314It’s actually contagious
@@drcalliber732 WHAT
I live in Tasmania. I am a believer, and would not tell ANYONE if I saw one.
Me too! People destroy everything they know.
Don't worry, you'll neither of you ever see one.
@user-qk7id7ev9u I live in hope of many things. Glass always half full.
I even own two (hopefully they'll reproduce). I won't tell where I am for the security of the animals and of course myself.
@@JustAnotherRandomGuy-_-
Yeah? Well, if they're brother and sister, they'll end up with offspring like you.
I'm so disgusted this happened to our beautiful Thylacines. My ex's great grandmother thought she saw one at back of her property in Lune River in the 80's. I hope they still exist in the deep forest on the west coast somewhere.
I agree they where deliberately massacred by mass genocide just to keep sheep farmers happy.
but unfortunately they are extinct.
Agreed. Such an avoidable tragedy.
We drove into the forest/wilderness a short way to the Tahune treetop walk...
Couldn't believe how dense it was and said to my husband that I wouldn't be surprised at anything running across the road!
And that wasn't far in at all. I would believe they could still exist further into that wilderness!
@@margaretboehm4485 so true, huge areas of oz like this and no people..
i can’t help but wonder if our hope that thylacines have continued to survive is due to the sadness and guilt we feel from realizing that humanity only started to appreciate these beautiful creatures once it was too late. and that we had in fact had caused their demise. very sad to think about :(
Humans: Kill em all!
Humans after they are all dead: Oh no!
Nobody was really sorry until UA-cam created a way to make money out of bullshit.
@@snarkybuttcrack did you not watch the video? People have been trying to find the animal for decades.
Only ones looking are private unfunded people! And very few of them. Australian government has the same thought on the animal it did in 1900.
You Aussies have a lot to be ashamed about.
@@snarkybuttcracksays you!
I live in Tasmania, and work quite a lot in Papua, Indonesia - It's interesting the locals in Papua talk seeing of the laughing dog (dingo) and also the devil/demon dog (thylacine) ...hoping there are still some about there and in Tasmania!
There been many expeditions in PNG looking for the tiger.
They were just found!
@@telmoazevedo8958where were they found.. Proofs?
@@telmoazevedo8958Source?
@telmoazevedo8958 true it was big news!
Last time I saw one was approx 10 years ago near Bewong on the south coast in NSW, it was night time, it run in front of my headlights and I nearly clipped it with my car. It was unmistakeable what I saw with the sloping back and the stripes. That was long before the bushfires so I dread to think what happened to it.
So the specimen that was found a few months ago in the museum drawer was the last individual at beaurmis zoo. Benjamin was before her. She was bought under the table because trapping was illegal by the time she was caught. When she died her pelt toured Australia then ended up at the museum then was rediscovered. Thanks for the video!
Ah just got to the middle of the video where you talk about her! I wrote the comment at the beginning XD
My mate Joe saw one of these dragging a dead cow in the outback a few years ago
Just want to say I absolutely love this video, well done!
As a zoologist, zookeeper, and animal lover; I truely believe a small population of thylacines may still exist. Thank you for covering this topic throughly and w/o bias. :)
Wow, thank you! I appreciate it
Other previously thought to be extinct creatures have been found. I am hopeful the Tasmanian tiger still exists. Actually I believe it does, too many people say thrive seen one
Delighted to say myself and grandad saw a pair , 1969 in south Australia, 5metres away in full daylight..
The one thing that is not mentioned is thylacines were NOT forest animals, but instead they were predators of open country and their population was concentrated around the savanna-like (but now-agricultural) central valley of Tasmania. The farms of central Tasmania most certainly do not have thylacines any more, and any population in the forests to the west and east would be living in very marginal habitat.
I do hope there are still some out there, and got very excited in the early 1990s when there was a credible sighting while I was at the University of Tasmania. But in the 30 years since, nothing has been found. So like you I am not particularly optimistic about extant Tasmanian thylacines. If the 1990s sightings were real, then the animals were almost certainly of a highly inbred remnant population, that have now all perished.
I am even less optimistic about Australian mainland thylacines, but the possibility of a New Guinea population is intriguing. If it exists it would most likely be a closely-related forest-adapted species, genetically separated from the Tasmanian animal for quite some time.
But great video. Devoid of the sensationalism so common in presentations about the thylacine. Well done.
Inbreeding is common in many species that still thrive.
Its possible they could have adapted, they had a very complex brain apparently. The last record of a thylacine being shot was in 1930, Tasmania is heavily forested with a low human population. In Australia people are often surprised to find out that foxes live right near or next to us in an urban environment., they never see them because the foxes have learned to adapt. Im hoping that the Thylacines have learned to adapt and steer clear of humans, they have a lot of space to do it in.
No one would see a thylacine in dense bush anyway.
I remember seeing a 'dog' while in Tasmania. It was hunting on animal trails just after a rain. It was following the rain.
My plan for retirement is to spend the rest of my days looking for the T.T.
I just want to know we didn’t mess up so badly.
My wife is the only person I’d tell if I found one.
Imagine hiding , and surviving, just to become famous and endangered all over again.
Thanks for the vid mate.
Cheers.
Even if you find one it does not mean we didn't mess up badly.
Really enjoyed your take on this and the amount of research that you must have done. Being from Australia and living in Tasmania for years I can report that Tasmanian Tiger sightings are not rare for Tasmanians. They don't get reported for several reasons. No one wants to get called batty or a story tella. Or most crew don't want the Tiger to be disturbed by Tiger enthusiasts and repeat the past.
Also it is commonly believed in Tasmania that Tasmanian Tigers are extremely intelligent and do there best to avoid any human contact, especially after being slaughtered. Very similar to native quolls found in the suburbs of Melbourne thought to have been wiped out over 50 years earlier, they were thriving but very rarely seen!! Fingers and toes crossed that this is the case for the Tiger!!!!!
I's not that they think, the other guys got offed, so we'll stay hidden. it's just that the not shy ones - logicly - were killed off.. So maybe they are still around - time and time again extinct things are found decades after being ruled gone.
I HOPE that you are 100% correct!
Its not like thylacine didnt fear humans before their extinction. But hat you're saying is the thylacines have a self-awareness and sentience equal, or very likely, greater than chimpanzees.
I mean if thylacines are this super intelligent animal then why did they get wiped out so easily in the first place? Also, they were hunted to extinction over decades - which would be many generations, not a few weeks.
@@CONEHEADDK so you're saying its a case of "survival of the fittest" where in this situation the more timid of the thylacines were the "fittest". They've been thought to be extinct for 90 years which means theres been many many generations if they did survive. While behaviours can be passed on its not a 100% thing. Over that 90 years of breeding theres going to be thylacines that aren't ultra timid of humans and do things like attacklivestock.
And its not like theres no livestock in Tasmania anymore. Theres actually a lot more livestock in Tasmania now than in the 1930s and there is zero records of anything even resembling a thylacine attack. Not on sheep or poultry or any other livestock.
@@analcommando1124 the inquisitive ones are dead, the ones who avoided humans still exist
I love the tasmanian tiger. I live in melbourne australia and have heard the fair share of stories on the thylocine being alive. Last year was probably the most interesting year for the animal as so many new items came up on the news with cloning and finding the pelt of the last thylocine. I really hope that a thylocine is found, but from the way the australian media has been spinning the cloning narative, its seems like the fight is on to see which animal gets cloned first, the wooly mammoth or the thylocine. Im very excited for the future of this animal.
I saw documentary, critics suggest that, the "clone" will contain the thylacine DNA technically, but it wont actually be a thylacine, just some weirdass lab interpretation of it.
is that really what resources should be invested in, when conservation can save thousands of existing species?
i know humans can walk and chew gum at the same time - but that's a rare skill, and until conservation and balance and harmony with surviving species is A+ tier level, we shouldn't even bother thinking about jurassic park shit, it's only 2023
@@johannsmith5697 I went to a wildlife conservation the other day. It was fantastic seeing all the native animals. But they told me that 2 years ago, they released a bunch of these endangered mice into the conservation. They thought it would be a good way to bolster their numbers. Then COVID happened and no more food were given to the black rats outside the conservation, so they moved into the conservation and one by one, all the mice died. Now if there was a natural predator that could have controlled the number of rats in that conservation, then these mice would still be there. And I believe that goes for a large amount of other animals as well.
I would rather have thylocine than the mammoth. The thylocine is actually more recent and maybe could survive.
You love them now they've all been killed. Humans have this habit of loving something when it's gone. What goods cloning? It could never be released into the wild because "the wild" is going extinct also.
I think cloning can be useful but it shouldn't be wasted on long gone animals like mammoths, sabre tooth cats, ground sloths, ect, but things like the thylacine are worth it since their ecosystem still hasn't adjusted to their absence
Imagine having a picture of your great grandfather with a rifle and a dead thylacine 😢
Thylacines as such incredible creatures. I really hope some of them are still alive. It’s such a shame what happened to them.
Blame your people
I think people want it alive because of Survivor’s Guilt. They know it’s dead but there’s also that hope, the hope that “maybe we didn’t wipe them out completely”.
I hope you didn't completely wipe them out.
I agree it's down to guilt, unfortunately they don't want to admit even to them selfs that perhaps the greatest deliberate genocide of their species was wipe off the face of the earth Just to keep sheep farmers happy.
well the farmers got their wish I hope they a very happy.
@@frankgallacher4799 no you don't.
I wish dinosaurs were still around. Is that guilt?
@@michaelhowell2326
it's not the same as well as you know.
80 million or so years apart.
humans drove those creatures into extinction,same as the dodo, carrier pigeon, red woodpeckers, the list goes on.
so yeah there is a shame of guilt, especially the thylacine or tasmania tigers it was a deliberate mass genocide of an innocent defenceless creature.
persecuted for a crime they never committed.
killing sheep.
so on less you have a heart of stone with no feelings, compassion,empathy
no sense of justice.
if you think it's ok to cut a kitten throat and laugh as you do it.
then I guess you think it's ok their extinct.
I for one dont as well as many more.
Iv lived in Tasmania my whole life and not once have I seen one but I always believe there still here, there's always something that feels strange when going into the bush
Thats what I tell my gf
If you’re going into the brush…watch out for Dog Man.
I’ve lived my whole life where there are known to be cougars, yet I’ve never seen one. That’s the thing about elusive animals, they’re not often spotted even where they’re known to exist.
Hi, i'm the author of In Search of Real Monsters. My expeditions were in the north and north west of Tasmania. I'm convinced it is still in Tasmania and P.N.G
Awesome, thank you for watching my video. I really enjoy reading your books. Love your work!
Any Yowie encounters or stories?
@@AranRinzei my momma.. but more would be intrs
@CONEHEADDK I wasn't asking you.
Bro dinosaurs could be in PNG for anyone knows that place is so undiscovered
When i see a photo what i always look out for is the way the butt kinda slopes upwards into the tail at a 45° angle
it just seems like the thing that looks most unique about thylacines
I’m from Kentucky and know that deer are as rare as rocks but they’re so elusive I’ve only seen one or two, it’s been recorded the Thylacine was extremely shy so I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s still out there in such thick brush
In Michigan deers aren’t very hard to see I’ve seen like 5 on nature trails
Deer are rare in Kentucky ? Hell I'm one state north and feed them in the yard in town. Our DNR introduced coyotes 2 decades ago thin them out. I always thought Kentucky was full of deer.
As rare "as rocks", means not rare at all. Rocks aren't rare. It's a Kentucky thing.😊 However if you live in Kentucky and haven't seen more than a few, then you must not get out of the house very often. lol. They can hide when they want to but, during rut they're everywhere. I've nearly totalled my car twice because of their promiscuous activity.😅
At fort knox in the 90's there were hundreds of deer out on the ranges at night. One even ran out during a live fire drill. Maybe they all hid in the defilade.
Deer aren't rare lol. Go out into the countryside at night and drive by a field, you'll see dozens of them.
I feel like there are two types of cryptozoologists: the “there’s a ‘squatch in them there woods” type that give the others a bad name, and the ones who want to turn extinct species into Lazarus species and fully believed that animals like the starry night toad or the Vietnam mouse-deer were still out there, and then go and find them, bringing an extinct species back into the fold.
Hey man, Bigfoot too busy throwing rocks, howling and hitting wood to know you're dunking on him.
As a zoology graduate, are your second type not just 'regular' zoologists, @sheller153? And I'm fairly sure no classically trained / educated zoologist would EVER identify as a cryptozoologist.
@@neillynch_ecocidologist Do not understand the narrow view. Has every inch of Earth been explored? No. What we do not know far exceeds what we do know, or even claim to know. An open mind naturally gathers more information than a closed mind. Simple physics, really.
@@thominaduncanson7596 The difference between real science and pseudoscience is that science uses evidence and experiments to determine things, while pseudoscience is anecdotal evidence and confirmation bias, an excuse to believe in nonsense.
@@thominaduncanson7596 Pseudoscience, such as your overused claim that nOt EvErY iNcH oF tHe EaRtH iS uNdErStOoD. So without a single piece of valid evidence, we should believe in something as far-fetched as a lone surviving member of a species out in the wild?
I saw an animal yrs ago mainland Australia. I caught it in my driving lights on my 4x4 at about 3am driving home from work. It had this strange stiff legged trot on quite short legs but was blinded by my lights so stopped in the middle of the road and looked at me. It had stripes, pointy ears, thin guts and a crazy stiff long tail. There is no Aussie animal like that except a thylacine. I didn't tell many people of course as most would think I'm crazy but interestingly I recently met a man who swore he saw a "Tassie Tiger" in exactly the same place. After searching online, I found there have been numerous sightings in NNSW
And then there are those who claim they saw ufos / ghosts / met Elvis the other week at the supermarket.
I want this story to be true. So bad.
It just doesn't sound believable because every time somebody has a story like this, it's always at 3 a.m. on their way home from work.
Nobody else is ever around to witness it. I still hope it is true. My gut tells me it isn't.
@@-Gax-
Maybe the tylacinus go around only at 3 a.m. ....🤷
Should ask to bakers....
12:09
And of course you didn’t have a phone camera, right?
Me and my wife thought we saw one while driving on a very rarely used road in north west tasmania, it walked like one, looked like one even having the stripped pattern on its back but it was rather small. It’s hard to believe even myself but i don't know what else it could have been
Thylacines are hands down my FAVORITE animal. You got my sub just for this!
Thank you!
Awesome! Thank you! They are very cool.
Silly
This is what I love about science, it doesn't say "You MUST believe in what I say and NEVER question me", instead it say "Hey you, here is all the evidence we have on this subject, and so far the evidence points to this conclusion, unless we find evidence that changes that, this is probably the truth"
I like that science can be challenged and disproven, and it is, all of the time.
Unless it's covid related science. Then you must trust science :)
@@nenhumnome4149 antivaxxers still exist?
@@nogoodgod4915 shouldn't they all be dead if they didn't took the vaccine?
Can't question climate science or scientists.
@@nogoodgod4915 Now your statement above has holes as you are even contradicting it with that response. Those vaccines haven’t exactly stopped or prevented the spread of the virus. I had boosters and still caught it.
I was fascinated and heartbroken about the thylacine ever since I first learned of it and saw those black and white videos some 20 years ago. Thanks for the update. I hope they can bring it back.
I had a game on my computer when I was a kid (this was the 90s). It was all about animals. There was a part where it talked about the Tasmanian Tiger, it showed that video of the last one in the cage. It always made me so sad...it was one of the first times that I remember starting to feel sympathy and compassion for an animal.
Former forensic tech here. Great video - I love learning more about this stuff. Just FYI: AI upscaling is not appropriate for forensic video/audio work. Its great for fixing zoomed in vacation photos, but it does not present a credible source for analysis considering that the image has literally been changed by a computer which is making guesses about what a shape "probably" is.
The part where you talked about the photo of a digging thylocine felt weirdly creepy, like a crime documentary. Maybe it is the eerie-ness of the photos, or the shot a live thylocine part.
courption and money kills :/
He killed it.
Yeah it was creepy thinking it was a dead body still erect and standing.
could have honestly killed it to stage a photo, it didn't move in the time of the lighting change so my guess is taxidermed or killed hours before.
i think there was blood on it's stomach@@David_Quinn_Photography
I have seen one of these alive and well while walking in the bush in remote Tasmania, We were close enough to see the distinctive stripes when it emerged from heavy undergrowth saw us, then retreated back into the safety of the undergrowth.... There were two of us who spotted it, we have no doubt of what it was, the colour, stripes and they way it walked.. this happened within the last 20 years..
Are you surel?
You forgot to video with your phone. Yeah, no.
@@user-pf5xq3lq8i When you go for a walk, to you sistematicaly bring a phone ?
I hope it’s true
I believe you...I caught one in my headlights in the Adelaide Hills...it still rattles me when I think about that night. It wasn't any animal I've seen before.
I have had 3 sightings of Tasmanian Tiger where I lived at Glenbrook NSW. One very positive sightings was when I was called into work in the early hours of the morning in the 1980's. As our street backed into the railway line and the National Park there was a lot of bush around our area. I was driving down around a few bends in that part of our street when I came across a Tasmanian Tiger in the middle of the road. We looked at each other for about 30 seconds or more before it moved of into the bush. The other sightings were sightings in the shadows at night and early morning.
Seeing the last of its species dying in captivity was one of the saddest things I ever saw. When you know people you know there is little chance that they still exist.
Add to that the deplorable conditions the "last" of them endured in "protection".
I'll expound, those who hunted them owe the world an apology.
@@jeffhildreth9244 It wasn't "hunters per se", it was agriculturalists who were the impetus for the bounties. Then hunters and trappers then got motivated, but the real blame belongs to agriculturalists plus forestry and those responsible for poisoning projects in Tasmania and mainland AU.
New Guinea super remote where not many people lives
@@davida.4933 A different form of hunting... Cruel , cowardly and deplorable.
Years ago while horse riding in the early 90’s some friends and I saw a strange animal running, I’ve lived in Australia all my life, I’ve never seen an animal move like that, it was dusty brown almost the colour of grass in summer, with stripes on its back it moved in a loping hopping sort of way, it’s hard to explain it as it was so different so unique… a few years later in our local paper they posted a photo of a possible thylacine sighting, in the Grampians not far from where we saw our animal, I remember the local fish and chip shop pinned it on their board, I looked at it every time we went in there and it looked just like the one we saw, it didn’t show the head, we saw the head, it wasn’t a dog, fox or kangaroo, it was very strange, when they sold that shop they took the cutting and I’ve never been able to find that photo anywhere, yet I remember it vividly x I’m not sure what we saw, I’ve never seen something else like it, even though I’ve lived in the area pretty much my entire life, it wasn’t a know animal here as I’ve seen all of them? Who knows what it was, it was the strangest looking and moving animal I’ve ever seen??
Cat.
I believe. Let's hope they're still out there!
It could’ve been a thylacine they may be hiding out in the Tasmanian wilderness nobody goes in there it’s too rugged and who knows what other creatures are there that haven’t been found yet. Do I think the thylacine is there. Yes it only takes two male and female to keep them going and there could be where they hang out the official word is that they are extinct but that could be to give them a chance to reproduce their numbers in peace I hope so anyway
@@GoldBawls If Bonnie says that it wasn't like anything she's ever seen, well, a cat doesn't fit that bill. Kind of rude to be so dismissive of Ms. Wick. It could have been a thylacine.
@@PoeLemic it couldn’t, they’re extinct.
Thank you so much for this. This is without a doubt the best video I've seen explaining why people think it may be out there, with all the different nuances there are to it, with the idea of cloning as a nice cherry on top. A lot of the little details you included were especially important, like how thylacines' stripes are not always clear (I read that they fade as they get older).
Thanks very much!
@@wildworld6264 The Thylacine in the famous video was proven to be male. After years of speculation, someone found another picture exposing the animal's (you know what).
i love the idea of the thyla being still here, but about the cloning thing just gives such more hope bc even if there are a few thylas left, protecting an area has been proven to be ineffective, take the white rhino for example, plus if population is too small its just pushing back a expiration date. hopefully the cloning works out much much better but i fear what that will bring as well as hope fot it.
As someone who lives in Western Australia, it would not surprise me in the slightest if the WA Government did what Cameron claimed they did in order to keep a mining lease.
Our country is an amazing place with such unique and amazing animals and I encourage anyone who wants to visit to do so...Just ignore our government. They are hopeless and the let down of Australia.
I really think that together with the famous water extinct species (Chinese paddlefish and Baiji), the thylacine is the most likely to appear at some point.
Chinese Paddlefish is probably gone tbh, they can't escape the wildly reckless Chinese pollution culture. They literally don't care, just dump heavy metal chemical waste into a river, it's cheaper than any other option.
Not a chance, any business would kill it off and destroy any evidence, the chance one was found, and the region made a reserve and granted a protected status, means nothing will ever be allowed to found.
@@snarkybuttcrack not so shure about that
@@snarkybuttcrack Heels up Harris?
the baiji has nowhere to go, chances are extremely low that they're still around.
ill always remember the camping trip when my mum swore up and down she had seen a Tasmanian tiger I had asked if it could have been anything else but I remember how she described it as having a tail that looked like it didn't move and strips on it back to this day I have never seen her be more sure of something than she was that night
Where was that sighting?
@@taleandclawrock2606 Right outside Atlanta GA
bro when that YIP YIP hit in the background of my headset in the middle of the night ....... bout died! Love the video hope we get to see more of these beautiful critters.
Mid sixties my father went deer hunting in Eastern Victoria and claimed he saw a striped dog like animal being a new Australian he had never heard of a Thylacine, he came back and went out and bought several books on Australian animals, and the last book he purchased had a picture of Benjamin unit and I remember him coming in to show my mother.
I hope they live out there somewhere unlikely but never hurts to have hope
They're in West Australia.
I nearly ran one over with the 6 tonne truck I was driving near Southern Cross in 2008.
I had it's head down and was side on to me.
So I got a real close look, before it made a couple of bounds and disappeared into the trees.
Previously in 1998, a woman that I knew saw a female with a pup, when on her way to Woorooloo meat factory just out of Perth.
A woman going the opposite direction saw the same thing.
My sighting and theirs are about 300 kms apart, but all on Great Eastern Highway, which takes you to Kalgoorlie, just over 600 kms East of Perth.
They didn't mistake the raccoon for a tiger. They just knew that the NYPD would actually show up fast for a tiger.
I love the tasmanian tiger and your content! I sure hope there's at least 1 or 2 tasmanian tigers left, so either they can breed up or be used for cloning! Love the content, subbed!
I hope so too! Thanks for the sub.
gonna be a bit of a nerd here, but if there were 2 left that were coincidentally the opposite gender any babies they have would have to breed with eachother if there was an attempt to bring the species back that way. :(
if they arent extinct (which i dont believe) theres definitely more than 2, or at least hopefully more than 2.
I was obsessed with these and devils and wombats as a child. Taz was my fave... I used to get a very strange feeling of great loss as a child thinking/reading about how and what we've become and what we've done as I learned more and more. I had a fascination with species that we'd driven to extinction and how this was possible.
I didn't have worlds or understanding of the existential dread I was feeling, the sadness over what we wantonly destroy, or the disgust I felt towards humanity...
then I grew up.
If there is a species that we should "resurrect" it isn't the mammoth - it is the Thylacine.
Good informative video man! Thanks for the shout too 👍
Awesome, thanks for watching my video. I love your work!
I can‘t get over it that the New Yorkers mistaken a Racoon for a Tiger. 😂😂😂
The Raccoon was most likely a Rat!
I can't believe they locked the poor thing outside one night for the only one remaining in the world... and it froze to death!
Damning indictment on ourselves.
We gotta to do better please?
The Thylacines were killed in the times of first Europeans in Tasmania, namely convicts, very few settlers, large number of Indigenous people. They too were attacked and they were (and are) beautiful people.
I’ve watched a bunch of UA-cam videos, and yours is the first one that has mentioned Benjamin the male thylacine basically wasn’t real. Which is crazy. It makes me wonder what other kind of information about such a popular “extinct” species isn’t accurate. I feel like a lot of thylacine “footage” is foxes, so I’m also glad you mentioned the heel difference
I live in western Tasmania. Two minutes from home and there's country so thick and steep, I don't think anyone's ever been in there.
I’d love for the thylacine to still exist. I think it would be a good contender for a comeback in terms of species.
I really do understand the problem of misidentification. Many years ago i was traveling with my ferrets (Jazzabelle & Hopkins). I raced into a restaurant to get us all some food. Meanwhile Jazzabelle & Hopkins was playing with their toys on the dashboard. When i came out of the restaurant and approached my van there were a bunch of young kids trying to break into my van because they wanted to kill them because they thought they were rats. I set the food down and pulled out my knife and asked them how long they wanted to live. They said Oh! Is this your van? I said Yes! And those are my pets. They said What are you doing traveling around with rats? I said Their not rats their ferrets, and even if they were rats you have no business trying to break into someones vehicle to kill their pets. They all retreated quickly.
Good, sometimes people need a proper response and you gave them one
You pulled out a knife to warn kids. What a big man i bet everyone in the restaurant stood up and clapped.
@@phuripongphansiri1740 #1. I am not a man. #2. They were hoodlums, (kids to me)., because someone like that can't be very mature.
You sound unhinged.
If someone tried to harm my pets the knife would have been in their body not just waved around.
My impression from this is there isn't one. Which breaks my heart
This animal probably has to be one of the most debated alive or extinct to this day. The way it died off was extremely sad and showed the era of conservation needing to be taken off. Many people hope to see this animal one day since it extremely unique with its pouch. I believe a science YT did a whole video on how unique this animal was. I belive the animal is still alive if those places are not well checked and are still finding brand new and thought dead species. Just other week I commented on the channel Atlas Pro who does similar investigations like this but with his very neat skills with his book knowledge. He did whole video on why only 1 butterfly was extinct in this one area in San Francisco with no info on it. I won't spoil a thing since it is amazing as to these videos here on how he puts it all together. People like you showing a world of animals lost in time and giving it life, is just remarkable. I commented on his video about how a type of bug that thought be extinct was found during covid because of a zoom call. The lacewing I believe was thought to be dead in some part of the U.S. for atkeast 50 years but a persevered one from around the year 2012 was foundout on a zoom call, just nuts to think about. Another person who is the relative to discovered the Coalcanth made a show on his expertise to find extinct animals. I believe he did episode on this one. He however did find I believe a such small population of 5 to 7 of an extinct tortoise on the gallaphogos from info that it may believe there. He may have found another animal but unsure. Thanks again for the amazing video, maybe you can team up with your expertise and Atlas Pro on finding info about extinct animals since your both pros at it. Just nothing but amazing info to put together from others who have been trying to tell others about these lost info. Thanks for reading and have a wonderful day.
Thank you so much for your comment. I haven't heard of Atlas Pro but I'll definitely check them out!
@Wild World Here is the other guy I mentioned who made the video about how unique this animal is. The channel is called To Be Smart. He is one of the main science channels on YT, so maybe you know him. However, if not you actually has doppelganger creator who literally does the exact same thing Hank Green from the Sci Show team. They are no related but look exactly a like and are in the same career work path. Both are awesome in a bunch of life science questions each person asks themselves each day. You kind find is video by searching To Be Smart with the animals name. It was made about 4 years ago. Also, glad you liked the info on Atlas Pro. Have a nice day!
@@sarahgomez9727 Thanks, I'll look into it.
@@sarahgomez9727did the channel to be smart make videos for the coelacanth and the tortoise? I can’t seem to find the videos.
@Orion No that was with the show who tries to find extinct animals that was related to who found that extinct fish many years ago. I forgot the shows name but should be easy to find. Also to be smart, made the video on the animal mentioned within this video on how unique it was. Hope this helps.
Thanks for all the time you spend on your videos. They have all been great.
I discovered them last night and have been hooked since!
One thing I respect and love about this guy is that he is serious. He means it. He does not cut corners. He does the work and checks all possible sources to build a well designed narrative.
I'm so happy to have come across this video as it's a topic close to my heart. You have earned my subscription.
Thanks for the great content and I hope to see more Aussie content in the future.
Awesome! Thank you!
In Spain we had at some point around 300 iberian lynxes. despite that, even in a species wich is specially adapted to not draw attention, there were evidences of their existence in the form of roadkills. In 50 years of efforts to protect them now we have around 1200 :D
Just found this video. Well presented, balanced, and researched. Well done.
I live in N/E Tassie....I know a number of people who have seen them up my way(I live in St Helens) and over on the West Coast....many parts are wild wild country...plenty of food (wallaby and pademelons)...Thylacines were/are apex predators and lived on wallaby and pademelon..If Hans Naarding sighting in 82 is legit then thats about 6-7 generation of thylacines that survived since Benjamin in 1935....so if that is the case then they not only hung on some 50years but would of increased in number for they have the habitat=wilderness..food= wallaby and pademelon and no predators except for man, and no one have legally hunted them since the 1930s...I know 2 bushmen who had a thylacine walk out in front of them along a dirt road in 1989 up the Blue Tiers near where I live....a local watched a thylacine through his binoculars for 10minutes late in the arvo around 2005, 10miles from where I live..a thylacine run past 2 people as they sat on the porch of the little hut up Cradle Mountain way 2016...spoke to a guy who drove past a thylacine that was standing on the side of the road during the day around 2010 up near where I live in N/E Tassie....2 hunters had a thylacine run across in front of them while spot-lighting wallaby near Mole Creek in 2009...a guy sitting in his tinnie/dingy fishing on the Pieman River when a wallaby dived into the river with a thylacine chasing him in 2002.........and thats just to name a few...they are still out there...(for what its worth Neil Waters images he claims are thylacines are bullshit)....cheers Rod
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There was a reliable sighting of a Thylacine family in 1947. There have been a number of 'could-be' sightings since, both in Tasmania and on the Australian mainland. . It has been suggested that there actually be more reliable sightings outside of Tasmania. One can hope.
Great video! Just like to add two points. There are no foxes in Tasmania. My understanding is that the Thylacine mostly hunted at the edge of open woodlands in areas called "Marsupial lawns". Unfortunately most of their preferred habitat were the areas of Tasmania that we use for grazing cattle & sheep now.
I think the thylacine isn't extinct, but its much more of a desperate hope, than a reason based conclusion. I've loved them since I was a child, so I always hold onto the idea that they somehow, some way survived.
You must be ancient
@@potnoogle5780 I'm not that old, damn...
Racist
It's worth noting the Thylacine was declared extinct a number of times, even when it was relatively populace. It was shy.
Yet we still managed to eradicate or almost eradicate the species. Man will destroy everything
My nephew is PNG born and bred. He’s a photographer and has photographed the PNG singing dog accidentally, many times. It’s alive, well and thriving.
If that would be true why dont you share the pictures? But arent the singing dogs just dingos?
An excellent documentary,narrated very well thanks for your hard work dude !
Much appreciated!
Quality video and channel. Keep up the awesome work. We love it!
Thank you so much!
I really enjoyed your video... Thanks for taking the time to make it!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video! Part Educational & Part Investigative work. Keep up the good work
This was fascinating. I enjoyed it very much. Keep up the good work
Thank you so much!
If you compare the Doyle footage to how Tassie Devils and Quolls move, the two closest things to a Thylacine still know to survive, it has the large marsupial carnivore gait.
Interesting, knowing that I'm even more inclined to think it might be a thylacine.
@@wildworld6264 I totally believe thylacines survive, but that's mostly intuitive.
(Speaking of intuitive, an Australian intuitive I recently watched on YT stated categorically that her guides said they're extinct, so here we are.... 🤷 )
My visual instinct on the Doyle footage is that it's the real deal. Gosh when you zoom in on the head it looks just like a Thylacine head and not a fox's. You can even make out the big eyes. The tail looks like a TT's too.
Wow you did a really great job! I’ve watched quite a few videos on this topic and you presented more information than any other, many facts that I have never heard. Great work 👏👏👏
Thank you so much!
Forget Tasmania and the mainland, look for them in PNG.
Great, balanced presentation. Thank you very much!
A wonderful documentary, well balanced and honest..and most of all you leave us with hope. Many thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it
I find it fascinating we have DNA to recreate woolly mammoths but they say we don't have the DNA for the thylacine
They live in a warm habitat. Dead animals decompose easier in the heat, they barely do in the cold. Even with no ice, they have a chance at mummifying rather than decomposing. Hence why the mammoths dna was saved and a thylacine wasn’t, same reason we don’t have many fossils for jungle dinosaurs.
I assume it’s not that than we can’t really do anything with the DNA. Mammoths have a close relative in Asian elephants to use in cloning. When thylacines went extinct their entire taxonomic family went with them. There isn’t really a substitute you can use for them
Cloning is probably the best hope of seeing one again. I hope the biological envelope of the host is compatible with regards to bacteria required for the target to thrive in this environment.
hi there, i am from tasmania and living here to this day! this information is absolutely incredible. i had no idea benjamin was a girl!! thank you for this video it's giving me lots of hope that this sweet animal could still be out there. its so awful that they were framed for murdering farm animals. I've read online that their jaw isn't big enough to kill anything larger than a small brushtail possum.
13 Thylacines were trapped and released into the South Gippsland forest in Victoria in the 1910s by concerned conservationists. It is not known if that population managed to survive and thrive or not.
Cheers
Source?
@@lundsweden ye olde grapevine ? I remember reading about it somewhere though. And it was pre-internet
Outside a small town the Northern Rivers NSW, one night I was watching TV when the automatic outside light came on and there I certainly saw what looked like a light tan coloured dingo with white stipes across it's back not dissimilar to the thylacine except it had a bushy tail. The animal stealthily snuck between the two houses and was gone. I have never seen anything like it before or since. And it did happen.
One thing you have to remember is that absence of proof is not proof of absence. I hope they are still around and in an area where they wont be disturbed. If i ever saw any endangered species i would just be happy to see it and not tell anyone..
great video - keep up the good work!
Just happened across your channel yesterday. I’m hooked. New sub. 🎉
Thylas move a lot like a kangaroo and less like a dog, back legs move together , not alternating, very very unusual gait at a slow pace and when running... very very unique
Well done. Brilliantly researched and presented.
Many thanks!
I lived near Hobart in 1970. I had colleagues there who said they saw a Thylacine while driving in a remote area at night in their headlights.
Great video :) enjoyed that
Great. Well researched and up to date. Loved it.
Awesome, thank you!
Speaking for stuff that has been extinct, there was the Mouse Deer (yes that is their name) that had video footage taken of it after 30 years
Very interesting video got to leave a like thats for sure and keep up that research I thinkt it was pretty good.
Thanks for the great content 👍
As a kid I desperately believed that they could still be out there.
I wanted them to still be out there.
... It's just sad.
The main problem is , the aussie gov't has always been , and still is, completely resource extraction focused . Tasmania has been logged for decades , but as technology improves , the speed of logging does , too As in the Amazon , they are cutting irreplaceable giant hardwoods to feeds Japanese pulp and paper mills after the land is laid bare , grass is planted and sheep set to graze . If a logger or farmer got a photo of a T Tiger , they would probably keep it secret , so as not to have their livelihood interfered with.