Matheus Diniz vs Gordon Ryan | Who's Number One
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2022
- Matheus Diniz vs Gordon Ryan Who's Number One
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Flo put mics on the mats so we can hear!
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They can’t get them on the interviewers 😂 jokes aside, flo thanks for the awesome content 🤜🏼🤛🏼
You don’t want to hear what G-Ryan is saying unfortunately. He is an overt racist and likes to make a few comments on the mats
@@Mike55856 😂
Awesome idea
I appreciate that Gordon not ripping a submission, he had it sunk in and could’ve done anything he wanted but he chose to give him a chance to tap. He’s a true martial artist, had that been Rousimar Palhares, Matheus wouldn’t have a BJJ career anymore.
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i kind of wish he did face Palhares so he could snap that dudes legs in half like he deserves.
Rousimar was cranking steroids way harder than Gordon Ryan tho to a point it made him mentally ill.
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It's also the ultimate show of dominance. You can control your opponent in a submission without a chance to escape.
Not enough trainers nowdays teach their students to leave the ego out side of the gym to avoid unecessery injuries. Gordon ryan sets an example that even the best grappler out there has no intrest in breaking his opponents body parts. Amazing role modle for all generations!
Danaher and Gordon Ryan were litteraly saying the opposite on the lex fridman podcast...that ego is necessary.
@@nicolobo764 Agreed. You can’t smash ego and expect top competitors at modern levels. That’s not to say that there can’t be a mutual respect or gentlemen’s agreement in the match. @gonen Chess players can see checkmate in advance too. The courtesy to end the match when mate is recognized in several moves doesn’t mean chessmasters don’t have an ego. Ultimately, I agree it’s nice to see, but go ahead and bring your ego in, just be ready to admit defeat or seal a position so well you have a chance to save a worthy opponent’s career for another day. Both exist, and this match demonstrates that beautifully.
Toquinho manda msg 🤦♂️
I think this match is a reminder for everyone as much of an asshole Gord is on and off camera, he is absolutely careful and even sympathetic when it comes to submissions. I don't think i've ever seen him unecessarily crank a submission even if it risked his opponent escape. He couldve easily ripped that leg to shreds but didnt. The onlinr chatter is maybe part act, or maybe he truly is as loud/brash as he markets himself to be, but on the mats that man is undeniable. Truly the world's best nogi grappler active today, and perhaps in history when all is said and done.
He is the embodiment of being SO GOOD at something that everyone has to respect it. Like the early rounds of ADCC where he just carefully trounces people.
He is the best in history already even while active
@@guntherwhite2043 i'm a gordon fan too and he has GOAT argument. It's just not a LOCK yet. A few more accolades and we might just see that ! I think he has collective no gi goat accolades but hes not adcc goat nor ibjjf worlds goat. Just a few more adcc golds and a win over galvao to confirm this. Also his GOAT-ness is very dependent on his longevity. He's not gonna be unmatched forever, i just hope he doesnt yaknow fall off. I dont think he will, personally.
@@nathantheophilus4856 who's coming up now that could rival him?
@@j11k22 coming up? Hmm. Nick Rodriguez will always be a a fun teammstes-turned rivals story. Nicky Ryan, Gord's younger brother will always wanna impress/beat his older bro Nichilas Meregali and dan manasoiou will be beasts but they're his teammates. The brazillians, upset that their representatives keep getting smashed believes mica galvao is the future but the kid's different weightclasses. Maybe if he finds the right uhm "brazilliam dieting program" he can muscle up to gord's size but idk if that'a necessary nor possible. The two ruotolo brothers (Tye and Kade) have been really really good but again, much lighter than gord, will need to eat many more bowls of acaí to get there :D. Of course there is also the guy everyone considers Gord's former number two on the DDS, former teammate Craig Jones but he's an established grappler, not on the comeup, and something like 0-3 vs Gordon.
That's my favorite thing about this sport. Two masters playing chess can see "Checkmate" before it's actually played out.
That's what happened here. He caught the heel-hook, both of them knew it was sunk, instead of playing the move and possibly seriously injuring his opponent they made eye-contact, nodded to one-another, and shook hands. No damage. No bad feelings. Just: "You got me/I got you, Well Played/Thank you."
And both men walk off without injury. You love to see it.
That's the way it should be; let's be honest you know if you've been caught, but I've seen people try to fight out of a losing position and end up hurt for nothing.
Underrated comment
Bro your high
Flo grappling, sign me. Top white belt of Mexico, i know to do a decent side control, 1 takedown and absolutely no submissions
HAHAH youre awesome man!
I’m sure they will be knocking on your door any time soon! 😉
Just watched several Gordon Ryan matches. He seems to wear his opponents down by using his strong legs and leg/hip dexterity. Let's them used their upper body - while he use his more powerful lower body where he can always "roll" away or out. He maintains his gas tank, burns theirs down, then uses the flaws that develop in the opponent due to fatigue. Pretty brilliant stuff.
That’s exactly what he’s a master of. Danaher is probably behind this tactic
Watch his most recent interview on the Joe Rogan Podcast. I think Mo is on at the same time. He talks about why his style of BJJ only gets better with age and why he's not in his prime yet. It touches on the difference of having an athletic form of Jiujitsu vs a constricting and slow form.
Well spotted, there are a few things he does to grind his opponents down. For one, he baits positional changes so they exert energy to escape when he isn't actually changing position, and he "attacks" safe submission sequences that don't require him to change position, so that his opponent is forced to react do defend a faux attack and therefore uses more energy. In this match in particular, he also applied pain via shoulder pressure to psychologically wear his opponent down, as well as restricting his breathing with his chest whilst he had mount. The breathing thing in particular massively tanks your stamina, and forces you into desperate, energy-burning movements to dislodge him. He was definitely playing the long game, and by the time Diniz managed to escape, he had so little energy left that Ryan snatched the heel with relative ease.
@@HolyMith Thanks. I've been doing BJJ on and off since 2003. Royce Gracie was my first instructor (GO Gracie South!). When I was younger - my style was hyper hyper-aggressive. Won a few tournaments. But never like REALLY good. I suffered some disabling injuries in the military and was discharged. When I went back to teaching MMA/BJJ - I had to completely change/adapt my game because I was out of shape, had a blown out knee with 5 thoracic discs destroyed. Even spinal cord impingement. Surgically reconstructed shoulder. So my movement was limited. I had to adapt fast, training my pro and ammy fighters. Was forced to develop a game more similar to Ryans'. Thinking about it NOW - I wish I had not been so bull-headed (from wrestling) and inefficient with my game and movement when I was younger. I also have very strong legs, and am freakishly flexible. Very dumb of me to have tried to "muscle" everything when I was in my 20s.
The Psychological angle is something interesting you mention that only came to me recently. More, I was thinking of acting with the same principles, using the same tools a magician uses. Misdirection, distraction. Slide of hand/limb, the perception/angle of your opponents vision etc. This would include the "Faux attacks" you speak of. I like presenting vulnerabilities to set traps. That is REALLY high level though - the psychological end. Didn't see that on first viewing at all. Great catch. Adds an interesting dimension.
The breathing stuff - I have been using since my wrestling days. But Gordon does it better than any. He's both "like water" AND a Guerilla Warfare Specialist. I'm retired. My sister is a Professional MMA Fighter (Tina "The Predator" Pettigrew - check her fights out in the youtube search bar). I've been trying to teach her some of these tools/principles. Which carry over to MMA to great effect. But, she seems almost "too intense" or aggressive to apply them. Maybe it's just a "mat time" thing? Any ideas?
@@zpettigrew Wow, sounds like you have a pretty storied history there, Im jealous! I don't think there's anything *wrong* with having a more athletic approach to BJJ, in fact the majority of very successful pros take this approach. To be dynamic and strong, and to "muscle" in as you put it. This will very quickly expose defensive weaknesses your opponent has. The trouble is, that is doesn't work very well in a longer match, when your opponent has a tight guard game, or when you are on the defensive. The ADCC and IBJJF rules for example, are designed to force players to engage in a short timeframe to score points. This is conducive to an athletic approach because you have to worry less about the gas tank and if your opponent is on defence, he still has to attack sweeps etc to score points, which will sometimes expose his defence.
In MMA, there are a couple of things to consider, primarily because striking is now involved. This can be a brutally effective way to psychologically wear your opponent down, and causing bleeding in the nose can very much restrict breathing or force them to breathe through the mouth, leaving the jaw slack and more susceptible to damage. The question becomes, is it better to hold position and employ typical BJJ psych/gassing methods, or cause as much damage as possible? The answer, in my opinion, lies with what your opponent's strengths are. If they have a great BJJ game and are likely to be able to get you off, then ground and pound. If they are weaker on the ground then start gassing them out, applying pain and controlling their breathing through body triangles and chest pressure etc.
That being said, if you take no pains at all to conserve your energy, you WILL gas out early and you'll be left wide open. I watched one of your sister's fights, and she is really impressive but this sadly happened to her. She still won though, so it looks like she toed the line very well!
Matheus actually did very good. Very few top athlete can get out of Gordan's mount game. Especially when he is on another weight level.
Love the ending there. A lot of us went into BJJ because you can go all out and still not have to get hurt or hurt your opponent. The spirit of BJJ is displayed here very well.
Kudos to Ryan for not ripping that heel hook
Love that he didn't smash his leg up. Matheus clearly didn't want to tap at first, but he could see Gordon clearly had the position and just wasn't cranking it intentionally and tapped. Good on both of them, Matheus for not taking advantage and Gordon for not cranking a sub that could have taken Matheus out of the game perhaps indefinitely.
Great match. Great to see how controlled that heel hook at the end was when the stakes are so high
Matheus did a fantastic work, but Gordon was more calm and had a better & clear vision about his game. Well done both !
As always he's just too calm
and muuuuuch bigger
Plus 30 pounds
@@rungeon83 AND MUCH BETTER
@@unboxingstuff7920 plus 30 skill points too
Gordon talks a lot of shit but I think why he’s so well liked is when push comes to shove he fulfills the hero archetype by being respectful at the end of matches, he doesn’t try to hurt an opponent when he could. He shows competence, he shows skill, he shows mercy and he shows respect..
Thank you for uploading! Watching this after Gordon’s mount instructional is just mind boggling. Everything he did was precisely what he taught. Cross wrist pin, isolate an arm, opponent bridges to escape, reset and repeat again. It’s exhausting for Matheus.
Appreciate you putting this up - this is 1 of my fav matches
I've trained under coach diniz for 6-7 months 3 of them as a private training when he was in Qatar (QMMA), he is one of the most humble, down to earth person and very social , the worst day when he decided to leave we lost one of the best coaches out there.
He lost to Gordon Ryan lol I'd rather be coached by Gordon Ryan
@@i.c.wiener2750 Michael Jordan is considered the GOAT, he'd be a terrible teacher. Just because you're good doesn't mean you can teach
@@nile7999 a better argument for this would be the fact that even if michael jordan is better you'd still want to get coached by kobe
Hey Dave I would love to fight you as we both wear a nylon windbreaker jacket
Even after such a long match the sportsmanship from Gordon to not yank on that hook amazes me, truly a deserving champ
Great fight! Respect to you Matheus, you are a real warrior. Gordon, as always, leaves no chance for anyone.
What a jiu jitsu workshop that was! Wow
My pepe hurts and pls flo put a mic up next to the mat this sunday we want to hear gordon trashtalk
Let’s fucking spam this so they can do it !!!
sry bout ur pepe
My pee pee hurts too we are brothers
You should date the matches in the title and description.
John gets most the credit but I'm glad he always still includes under Gary.
mm, how about Renzo?
@@Vimi240 Gordon started under Garry and trained primarily under him for a long time before they both started making the trip into NYC to take John's classes. From what I'm aware they never really trained under Renzo, only John.
@@socalled33 Well, very nice explanation, thanks! They are all my heroes!
@@socalled33 whats crazy is alot of brazillian guys would go there and only train under renzo and not listen to john, bet they are kicking themself now that gordon dominates and nobody knows their name.
they aren't kicking themselves, too proud and too much ego
Nothing gives me more pleasure than watching Gordon absolutely CRUSH Brazilians
Same here
Had 30 ibs on him
@@malikk.4421 Beats everybody at any weight yet the dimmest of lights go, "he had 125 pounds on him ".....😅😅
I wanna see him fighting with a gi on... he'd look like a blue belt.
Man, do not expose so much love for the brazilians.
Nessa o Gordon foi um gentleman. Posição travadissima, só encaixou e olhou. Parabéns
Whether you like Gordon or not, he never cranks on submission holds or shows even the slightest inclination to hurt his opponent. That alone speaks to volumes to his character.
De formiga - mg ( engenho de serra ) para o mundo 😎😎😎😎😎 tive o privilégio de te ruma infância top com Mateus Diniz parabéns meu caro ... Uma vida de dedicação a luta
That was a super slick heel hook transition!
Great analysis by Xande.
Huge respect to GR for not turning that heel hook.
Incredible ❤️🔥🔥🔥
Please add the match date in the description.
I've seen the progression of jiu jitsu since 1993.
We should all appreciate what we're seeing from Gordon.
He's the modern Rickson
Gordon's economy of motion is a true marvel. Hardly any wasted movement, perfect position all the way
I fought Diniz before and to see what the new generation in Gordon is at level wise is very impressive. Also much respect to Matheus as he’s a good guy also. Good peoples.
Hey Thomas I would love to fight you as we wear a nylon windbreaker jacket as my Christmas present
Damn, that's sportsmanship at the highest level. RESPECT!
Matheus blatantly struck Gordon in the face multiple times and Gordon just smiles and takes it. He has more control than I do.
The kind of video sound production you can only expect from Flo.
Love the Videos Flo!
Big Dan could learn a thing or two about finishing the heel hook in this match.
Amazing talent!
Good Fight !!!
4:05 it’s hard not to notice John on the background.
I havent seen anyone in a lifetime being that technical. Dude knows a solution to everything.
Phenomenal 💯
I love this channel 👊
They should institute Gordon Ryan’s mount as a form of capital punishment
Gordon predicted he'd be chasing Diniz around the mat. 5 seconds in GR goes to guard. Gamesmanship.
I would love to learn from Gordon Ryan. I have such a similar game to his. There is just so many pieces to the puzzle that I'm missing.
Unbelievable unbeatable 👏🏻
You see how Gordon doesn’t rip the heel hook submission because he is truly in control of the leg and the heel. That is great technique. Every time I see guys hurting opponents with submissions I think about the way the guys at the top of the game never rip a sub.
Gordon is the King👑 you may not like his act off the mats, but on the mats, he is a CLASS ACT!
The desire to be aggressive. He gave in to the pace just had to, got tired then the heel. Eye contact. You know it I know it. Great match let's do it again!
When was the fight
Nice comments by Xande Ribeiro! 💪
great match… plus nice ending!
I don’t understand how these guys think they’re going to compete with Gordon without investing in a similar strength and conditioning program to his. They know his skill level is at least as high as their own, they know he’s a monster physically.. To challenge him it’s going to take someone of similar physicality.
Funny Gordon is more skilled it's not just his strength and conditioning.
@@brendon2462 He is about 30lbs larger than diniz lol We saw recently what happens when he goes against skilled guys his size like PENA or Buchecha....he hardly can do anything..cant pass guard or take the back or score a single point on Buchecha. Theres no reason why gordon shud be seen as superior to someone liek JT torres who is about to win the most staccked division on earth for a 3rd time ADCC 77kg. He is just seen as superior cuz he was born large enough to be 230lbs shredded and compete in absolutes.
@@REXAZOR But he did sweep Buchecha once and Pena twice if I remember correctly. He also got back control a few times no hooks but still control and takedowns. Pena didn't do anything to Gordon. A lot of that match with Pena he was pacing himself. Not going 100% right away. I believe he can pass Pena guard. But he will have to expend a lot of energy to do it. It was too risky so he didn't want to gass early. Will see if they meet in adcc under time limit. Buchecha I think stalled a lot didn't want to engage and do jiu jitsu. That's why Ryan didn't get anything else going. After the sweep he got passive. He was even penalized for it. He would engage just enough to avoid a penalty. Then back off again rinse and repeat not commit to anything. I personally don't like sub only. Because the no time limit doesn't encourage action. Guys can go slow half effort because it's a marathon. Neither wanted to risk gassing. It's a competition of conserve and make your opponent expend energy. I watched a break down. Gordon was making pena work harder in certain positions. While he conserved his energy for later. He was starting to turn up the effort. When he noticed pena starting to fade.
@@REXAZOR Beat a buchecha that Stalled the entire time, and destroyed Pena in the third match. Destroyed Cyborg while he was undersized. Destroyed Keenan Cornelius. Beat Craig Jones 3 times. Beat Tim Spriggs. Destroyed Pedro Marinho as well. Beat Josh Barnett. List goes on and on and on.
@@nathantheophilus4856 destroyed pena ? 😂 😂 He said he would put a passing clinic and dominate pena ...he did not pass pena once in 45 minutes lmfao and failed to take his back 3 times . He began to win due to cardio but sure dominated' pena 😂 show me the passing clinic ???
Also Gordon is never really undersized he is 230lbs shredded if he had the layer of fat that other guys do he would be 240-250+ so it's irrelevant he is as big as you should get for BJJ . Lol Josh Barnet 😂 😂 😂
Gordon is a literal snake in JiuJitsu, so elusive and strategic with both his defense into trying to setup his offense.
Great match
He’s a beast ! Congratulations to him!
Iraado✔💪
Much respect for the king after that heal hook
Gordon was very gentlemanly with that finish. Seems like these always end the same.
I love this
GR is a top bloke, takes a person with respect for other to finish this the way he did
I have never tried to do this just don’t stand up pads was hurt at 22 and have one bad arm now but I do math real well and when I think of things I see it in my mind. My question is when they do this match does Gordon know where the attacks r coming and he see it or just practice and u feel it and know or how does he get so good 🤷♂️
Just started following Ryan about 4 years ago. I was wondering,.....is there anyone left for him to beat???
prolly avenge that vinny loss, and if buchecha's got nothing to do then a proper sub win would be good since ryan won via a technicality the last time (buchecha got negative points)
Great sportsmanship for not crushing the ankle
Amazing
In all honesty FloGrappling, you can make Jiu Jitsu more spectator friendly by improving the lighting.
Compare the lighting they use for BJJ matches vs UFC or even wrestling.
And what's with the smoke?
is that Xande commentating? so cool
11:07
Essa raspagem do Diniz foi top! 5:37
Did Gordon intentionally give up that potential mount from Kimora grip at 5:36? I know he chooses his positions/submissions, wondering if he could've moved into mount control and went from there.
Nothing better than watching a Gordon clinic every now and then..
Funny how many people hate on Gordon Ryan whilst supporting a bunch of guys who would have cranked that heel hook, but hey they don't tweet mean things right 🤷♂🤷♂
Love Gordon's style. Honestly would hate to roll against anyone with Mathaus to/spazz style lol
My closed captions said potatoes Denise and I feel like that name should live with him forever
Ten seconds into the match "So, what do you think about this match so far?"
Can’t lie just started watching Because I heard of Gordon 🔥 Hooked
Gordon earned that confidence! Respect 🙏
Great sportsmanship
nice match
Awesome
“Master the Basics”
-Rickson.
Matt could use this now.
Howd that top pressure work diniz?
You can see from this match that Diniz is rarely mounted. The bumping and muscling were white belt reactions. He’s obviously used to dominating and not being dominated.
I don’t think so, most people don’t escape Gordon’s mount. The fact he didn’t isn’t luck.
I agree. There was zero technique. A lot of the top guys who are very explosive have this same issue. Technique never develops because always rely on strength and power
15:28 good bridge technique
Gordon Ryan's sportsmanship is what I like the most about him, it makes the sport more enjoyable for everyone.
What style of jiu jitsu is this?
What a godlike guy this Gordon is...
That knee control crazy
Jujitsu will never be mainstream cause it's boring watching a guy down himself. I've tried watching several of these matches and have never been able to get through one.
Nicky looks so young here, now he is a beast
That cross ashi entry 😍😍
So I'm completely new to this sport but it's amazing to watch! I do have a question. I watch a ton of ufc and Khabib have a chance against Gordon?
not in grappling, Gordon is way too good
Of course everyone has a chance- but not a big one. The sport of grappling is different from the sport of MMA, the same way we really don't know how well Gord's skills translates to MMA. Khabib by his own admission relies on punches to help advance position in grappling situations - take that away and he'll have to resort to other methods that he might not have trained as extensively. There was an old video of a young khabib losing on points (In a bjj ruleset, though) to a BJJ blackbelt in Russia. This was young khabib , yes, but he was sambo champ at that point in time. Just rules will always advantage those who have spent more time dedicating themselves to that particular ruleset.
No way
Diff weight class, one is a bjj specialist the other is a fighter.
But if i would bet who would win id say GR.
But again two very different athletes
Arm Isolation: 9:38, 11:35
Gordon you are a BEAST of a man. When you mount you totally dominate your rival. 👍
walking out to Gimmie da loot is legendarily slept on. I’m reaching but it just fits with his aggressive style.
Gordon’s transitions are a thing of beauty
don't use Xande as a commentator anymore, put Kendal, or anyone else.
mics on the mats too please