It’s great to support VNM because of just how well they stand behind their product and how quick their response is. I fried my VNM shifter with a torn power cable and contacted them and they asked me to get Whatsapp and spent over an hour trying to diagnose the issue with me. Once they determined that the issue wasn’t resolvable via software, they put me in contact with a US based repair. Amazing customer service.
I was going to get some HE sprints but I went with these instead since they had dampers. I was also able to source a stiffer spring for the throttle and i have just been completely obsessed. Great review
@@IvanRivera-xb3he i got it from a local store from the ace hardware brand, but tbh i went back to the default spring and tensioned it as much as i needed
I love my VNM pedals. I have to admit that they are the best and highest quality item on my rig. The fit and finish is top notch just like their other items. I agree with all your thoughts on the pedals and wished I would have waited for your review to go without the damper set. but I'm still super happy with what I got. I'll see you on Tuesday's stream. TOOT TOOT!
hey mate, are you still happy with those pedals? is it mandatory to buy the heel plate or is it also just fine to without higher heels or are they too big?
I came up with a cheap hack to get a damped feel on the brake without the damper kit. If you take one of those red rubber washers off the cap from a bottle of Grolsch and insert it into the elastomer stack, it will rub against the shaft giving a damped feel from the friction. Placing it higher in the stack will increase the effect as the washer will end up traveling more. Should work with other pedals that use the same design too as long as the shaft diameter is thicker than the washer inner diameter. Plus the Grolsch will improve your lap times!
Funny enough, when I looking for simtrecs pedals here in Australia. Found out racekraft sell Vnm pedals but also found they tune it by themselves. They stiffer the spring to the throttle and added their own damper kit on the brake and the clutch. Interesting.
Laurence, I noticed you had the damper/spring pushed down to the lowest position on the pedal arm. That makes it very easy to push and it doesn't give much resistance in that position. Move the throttle damper/spring all the way up on the arm for the most resistance. You complained about the throttle not being strong enough but you have it on the weakest setting. You can see it at the 12:54 mark of the video.
I’m still on the fence with getting these. My options imo are VNM V1, Simgrade VX PRO or P1000s. I have an inverted pedal deck so not sure which is going to work best.
yep I agree. It would make the brake near perfect with cups and the elastomer upgrade kit. All it needs then is an uprated throttle spring. But all in all these pedals are still great. I highly recommend them
I was confused by the upgraded brake elastomers/spring details. The set they sent you, is that supposed to be an upgrade you can purchase separate from the pedals, or is it now the standard included? Thanks for these reviews Laurence. Working up to an upgrade from a g29 setup without access to try out any of this higher end hardware. You've definitely helped give an idea of what to expect.
So, If we're being honest there's still no overriding reason why I should dump my HE Sprints in favour of another pedal set. Well apart from the baseplate as it looks absolutely solid and the HE Sprint baseplate is an invention of the devil.
Agreed. The HE sprint are really good. There’s no reason to change unless there are specific features that you are missing. I do recommend trying heusinkveld’s new elastomer kit though. It’s only €25 or so.
thanks for the vid.. I'm looking for something with a longer clutch and brake travel. I found that a lot of sim racing pedals have very short pedal travel and are very stiff to mimic race cars. I'm trying to simulate driving a road car built for the track. is this pedal something that can be adjusted to the way i want? hoping for your answer...
Laurence, how much pressure do you put through your pedals? I can get these pedals to read about 50% of raw value when calibrating before it's uncomfortable to press any harder. It was a pretty stark contrast coming from T-LCMs - I had to lighten the stock elastomer config with a spring even. Or is it more a matter of not liking much travel in your setup as opposed to max pressure? I'm bewildered by how anyone can max out a 200kg load cell without wearing construction boots lol.
Hahaha I don’t know how much pressure I put on a brake to be honest. Heavy braking is something that you learn and get used to over time really. It’s not something you need to do… it’s just something that ends up happening
ive seen and checked some of your videos.. and they are all perfect. just a question though, i know both HE Sprint and VNM pedals are good.. but if you will going to choose 1 between them which will you choose? in just your own opinion..:) thanks in advance
Please never add a cup or sleeve system on the polymers as suggested. You have a primary take up spring then the main (secondary) braking feel the set of polymers give. The main reason I chose this set was the lack of a sleeve/captured polymer system which adds a tertiary stage feel when the polymer binds against the walls.
elastomers lose effectiveness at 60%. I'm glad they feel good for you and the amount of force you apply, but adding cups is still a good idea. people can remove them if they want to feel what you feel.
Yeah I don’t have a recording booth here and when I make my microphone more sensitive, it picks up way too much noise and echo. My videos are almost always less loud than other people’s videos as a result.
Are you able to tell me the distance between the holes in the aluminum bars for pedal mounting? I would like to install VRS DFP Pedals, but I'm afraid they're too short. Thank you very much!
I've got the Simforge and think they're ace, particularly for the price. I got them for 435 GBP and can't see a reason to spend more on vnm. The throttle on the simforge is particularly good i think
These are better pedals albeit slightly more difficult to set up. I do wish they used cups though. At 450 I would definitely go with the VNM. And you’ll probably never upgrade again. Whereas with the csl elite v2, you can outgrow the throttle and clutch unless you have good mods for them
Do not trust these reviews anymore… bought Asetek Forte, they are not bad, but foot-base plate is disaster, tried HE ultimates, and VRS pro pedals, bought VRS and could bot be more happy, was stupid that i cancelled my VRS and bought Forte, these reviews maybe are personal thing, but VRS for the price, nobody can touch them, and trail braking is great, no more rubber in pedals! At least for me!
I never reviewed the VRS. And I made it quite clear (in my opinion) in the forte and invicta reviews that I’m not a fan of the baseplate. But your mind seems to be made up 😅. Thanks for coming here to give people doubts over my reviews :p
@@LaurenceDusoswa it should be mentioned that base plate is absolutely uncomfortable, with racing shoes or without them, pedal plate adjustment is also big joke, summarasing, better pedals than fanatec v3 but with so many flaws! Cheers ;)
I waited till i could get the vrs pedals coming from v3s I honestly couldn't be happier with that decision I swapped out the blue spring job done they feel really good now,good review Lawrence
It’s great to support VNM because of just how well they stand behind their product and how quick their response is. I fried my VNM shifter with a torn power cable and contacted them and they asked me to get Whatsapp and spent over an hour trying to diagnose the issue with me. Once they determined that the issue wasn’t resolvable via software, they put me in contact with a US based repair. Amazing customer service.
Great to hear
I was going to get some HE sprints but I went with these instead since they had dampers. I was also able to source a stiffer spring for the throttle and i have just been completely obsessed. Great review
AWESOME! Sorry for the late reply!
where did you get the stiffer spring?
@@IvanRivera-xb3he i got it from a local store from the ace hardware brand, but tbh i went back to the default spring and tensioned it as much as i needed
I love my VNM pedals. I have to admit that they are the best and highest quality item on my rig. The fit and finish is top notch just like their other items. I agree with all your thoughts on the pedals and wished I would have waited for your review to go without the damper set. but I'm still super happy with what I got. I'll see you on Tuesday's stream. TOOT TOOT!
It's always good to see my thoughts being echoed by existing owners
hey mate, are you still happy with those pedals? is it mandatory to buy the heel plate or is it also just fine to without higher heels or are they too big?
I came up with a cheap hack to get a damped feel on the brake without the damper kit. If you take one of those red rubber washers off the cap from a bottle of Grolsch and insert it into the elastomer stack, it will rub against the shaft giving a damped feel from the friction. Placing it higher in the stack will increase the effect as the washer will end up traveling more. Should work with other pedals that use the same design too as long as the shaft diameter is thicker than the washer inner diameter. Plus the Grolsch will improve your lap times!
Hahaha cool hack :D If it works, it ain't stupid :D Thanks for sharing!
Funny enough, when I looking for simtrecs pedals here in Australia. Found out racekraft sell Vnm pedals but also found they tune it by themselves. They stiffer the spring to the throttle and added their own damper kit on the brake and the clutch. Interesting.
good to know!
Laurence, I noticed you had the damper/spring pushed down to the lowest position on the pedal arm. That makes it very easy to push and it doesn't give much resistance in that position. Move the throttle damper/spring all the way up on the arm for the most resistance. You complained about the throttle not being strong enough but you have it on the weakest setting. You can see it at the 12:54 mark of the video.
The video footage doesn't represent all the settings that I have tried unfortunately as I'd have to film every time i change anything :p
I’m still on the fence with getting these. My options imo are VNM V1, Simgrade VX PRO or P1000s. I have an inverted pedal deck so not sure which is going to work best.
P1000 I think
Nice review! Set has potential of being top notch once elastomer caps are introduced.
yep I agree. It would make the brake near perfect with cups and the elastomer upgrade kit. All it needs then is an uprated throttle spring. But all in all these pedals are still great. I highly recommend them
I was confused by the upgraded brake elastomers/spring details. The set they sent you, is that supposed to be an upgrade you can purchase separate from the pedals, or is it now the standard included?
Thanks for these reviews Laurence. Working up to an upgrade from a g29 setup without access to try out any of this higher end hardware. You've definitely helped give an idea of what to expect.
Theres a brake upgrade kit you have to buy separately
Great review. I liked the part about the clutch.
yep it's a great set
Nice Video - Are the Elastomer deforming issues still present in 2024 ?
So, If we're being honest there's still no overriding reason why I should dump my HE Sprints in favour of another pedal set. Well apart from the baseplate as it looks absolutely solid and the HE Sprint baseplate is an invention of the devil.
Agreed. The HE sprint are really good. There’s no reason to change unless there are specific features that you are missing. I do recommend trying heusinkveld’s new elastomer kit though. It’s only €25 or so.
When comes the Review for the MECA Evo 1 Hydro ?
I’m working on it. My biggest problem is editing 😂
thanks for the vid.. I'm looking for something with a longer clutch and brake travel. I found that a lot of sim racing pedals have very short pedal travel and are very stiff to mimic race cars. I'm trying to simulate driving a road car built for the track. is this pedal something that can be adjusted to the way i want? hoping for your answer...
This can be set up for long clutch and brake travel. So can most setups like the Simagic p2000, simforge mark 3, etc
when is the simagic fr x pro wheel review?
When I receive them from Simagic 😅😅😅 it’s on the way
Laurence, how much pressure do you put through your pedals? I can get these pedals to read about 50% of raw value when calibrating before it's uncomfortable to press any harder. It was a pretty stark contrast coming from T-LCMs - I had to lighten the stock elastomer config with a spring even. Or is it more a matter of not liking much travel in your setup as opposed to max pressure? I'm bewildered by how anyone can max out a 200kg load cell without wearing construction boots lol.
Hahaha I don’t know how much pressure I put on a brake to be honest. Heavy braking is something that you learn and get used to over time really. It’s not something you need to do… it’s just something that ends up happening
ive seen and checked some of your videos.. and they are all perfect. just a question though, i know both HE Sprint and VNM pedals are good.. but if you will going to choose 1 between them which will you choose? in just your own opinion..:) thanks in advance
I prefer the baseplate on the VNM but I think the sprints are a better pedal set. I haven’t tested them back to back.
FINE im buying them!
Please never add a cup or sleeve system on the polymers as suggested. You have a primary take up spring then the main (secondary) braking feel the set of polymers give. The main reason I chose this set was the lack of a sleeve/captured polymer system which adds a tertiary stage feel when the polymer binds against the walls.
elastomers lose effectiveness at 60%. I'm glad they feel good for you and the amount of force you apply, but adding cups is still a good idea. people can remove them if they want to feel what you feel.
I really like your videos. But it is just me, or does your sound/ voice volume seems to be always at max 80%?
Yeah I don’t have a recording booth here and when I make my microphone more sensitive, it picks up way too much noise and echo. My videos are almost always less loud than other people’s videos as a result.
Are you able to tell me the distance between the holes in the aluminum bars for pedal mounting? I would like to install VRS DFP Pedals, but I'm afraid they're too short. Thank you very much!
yes it's 14cm
@@LaurenceDusoswa Another question: at what height the heel plate sits from the lowest to the highest? Thank you again!
So... Death not an option, These pedals or the Sim Forge? lol
I've got the Simforge and think they're ace, particularly for the price. I got them for 435 GBP and can't see a reason to spend more on vnm. The throttle on the simforge is particularly good i think
All depends on budget. These are higher quality. Simforge gives better value for money.
@@LaurenceDusoswa what if you're a garden hose enthusiast? Simforge has absolutely cornered the market there 😁
@@Tachikoma36 hahahaha :) I love that piece of garden hose. Pure function
@@LaurenceDusoswa Yeah, I realize it's probably not a fair comparison, price wise at least.
This for $450 or fanatec elite v2?
These are better pedals albeit slightly more difficult to set up. I do wish they used cups though. At 450 I would definitely go with the VNM. And you’ll probably never upgrade again. Whereas with the csl elite v2, you can outgrow the throttle and clutch unless you have good mods for them
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Its a design fail that had to be fixed and they already had components made.
Not the best though there
Could be
There’s no way I’m paying more for these than I just paid for the Heusinkveld that they basically knocked off
knocked off is a big big stretch
I got a chance to try HE sprints recently, and these felt significantly better especially with the dampers installed. Sounds like you want a pair 😛
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GOD FUCKING DAMNIT!!! I WASN'T THE FIRST TO COMMENT!
We were giving away $10,000 to the first commenter today... tough break bro...
@@LaurenceDusoswa if only I was first, i would've been the coolest person ever.
This video gave me botulism.
🤣😂🤣 why?
Do not trust these reviews anymore… bought Asetek Forte, they are not bad, but foot-base plate is disaster, tried HE ultimates, and VRS pro pedals, bought VRS and could bot be more happy, was stupid that i cancelled my VRS and bought Forte, these reviews maybe are personal thing, but VRS for the price, nobody can touch them, and trail braking is great, no more rubber in pedals! At least for me!
I never reviewed the VRS. And I made it quite clear (in my opinion) in the forte and invicta reviews that I’m not a fan of the baseplate. But your mind seems to be made up 😅. Thanks for coming here to give people doubts over my reviews :p
@@LaurenceDusoswa it should be mentioned that base plate is absolutely uncomfortable, with racing shoes or without them, pedal plate adjustment is also big joke, summarasing, better pedals than fanatec v3 but with so many flaws! Cheers ;)
I waited till i could get the vrs pedals coming from v3s I honestly couldn't be happier with that decision I swapped out the blue spring job done they feel really good now,good review Lawrence