I am a mid-skill AE freelancer since years, so I do understand the basic logic behind AE designs/animations. However, I gotta say, even tho your videos are supposed to be just tutorials, I can just watch them regularly for entertainment and chill. Its satisfying. The techniques you use are insane. Sometimes I watch your videos in my bed before trying to sleep. Thank you so much for making my time watching your videos worthwhile.
If you are having issues like I was applying the tracking data to your new comp and it not doing anything.. The issue seems to be a bug if you trimmed your footage in AE and then tracked it. To fix this, trim your footage, then precomp it. Apply mocha and track it on the precomp. This worked for me
precompose with all attributes ?? I have just trim my footage and it didn't work like you said.. now i will try to pre-comp the trim, but moving all attributes ?
God, I rummaged through all UA-cam and Google, but the answer to how to use PowerShell I found only from you. Thank you great man! You saved my nerves)
It's an interesting idea. I'm not super up on how Element works. But since Power Mesh can generate a null cloud, or an alembic, so long as you can use either as an emitter for element you should be good.
Is this a case where the time index of the layer and comp may have a miss match. After you apply the data, check for "when" the keyframes might be. I was surprised to find them at 00:00 on the layer when I expected them at 00:00 on the comp.
You may be missing one little critical thing. Without seeing what specifically you're doing it's hard to really say. I would recommend taking it very slowly and breaking it down step by step to understand what each phase is meant to "do" in the process. It's better to understand the steps than follow the recipe. I hope that helps and best of luck.
Thanks for the lesson, it was very helpful for me. I like it, if you can do the lesson "how you remove intercepting hands, not disturb to power mesh" really I can't understand that part. so I'm stuck there. I'm a new guy to your channel. anyway, thanks for everything. your channel helps me learn a lot of things to improve my VFX knowledge.
@@evanabrams2735 I have AE2020 and AE22 Moch Pro version is 2020. Yet Inside AE i can see both Mocha and Mocha Pro in effects menu. But Mocha Pro has no Mesh feature. So sad.
Thanks for your tutorial's. Please review the new features of Mocha 2022 for: Lock-stable stabilization (when the camera follows the movement of a person), insertion /removal of graffiti on the plane, as well as attachment /removal with overlapping objects. Thanks
hmm didn't work for me... but i saw in your video that your initial footage is already a composition there, not the initial footage (mp4 or whatever).. Why you have (pre-compose ????) the initial footage ? is this a step not included in the video ?
You might be encountering an error for "when" the keyframes are being created. Check on the timeline for if they're at a timecode not in the work area. I precomposed just so the footage started at 00:00. I didn't realize it was sometimes an issue till later. I hope that helps.
@@ECAbrams I just confirm that in order to work someone should precompose the initial footage before especially when the part he is using is a trim-part
@@georges8408 I'm not sure. An update may have fixed that up. I think what's more important is the time code. If in doubt, precompose and make sure that timecode starts at zero. But if you run into more trouble, I would hit up the BorisFx forums. They would have more accurate answers to the latest version of the plugin.
@@ECAbrams Thanks man.. I m already there but youttube video-tutorials like yours is better for me. Also, the evolution of Mocha have changed a bit the workflow compared to some years before.
Amazing work. A small detailed overlooked of nature, fire doesn't flow up digonally, it always flows up vertically, it doesn't care if surfaces are inclined. But otherwise fantastic.
Good detail. In the original piece, we used the puppet pin to pull bend and skew the fire to appear to move vertically even when the origin is diagonal. Like how the fire from a gas burner appears to blow out horizontally then curves up. It's a few more steps than we covered here, but got the job done pretty well.
It is not a contest and please note that there was mesh tracking in Nuke and Flame using optical flow 3 years before Lockdown. It was not the first to use optical flow for tracking and will not be the last. Mocha's new PowerMesh sub-planar tracking was developed at the request of the userbase and does not use optical flow. PowerMesh can also be used to drive roto and stabilization. Mocha Pro can be run in Premiere, Avid, Flame, Nuke, Fusion, Vegas Pro, and other hosts. Lastly, PowerMesh is one of many features in Mocha Pro. It is a bit apples vs oranges.
Agreed... As a long term Mocha Pro user who just started using Lockdown i feel Mocha Pro is much faster but lockdown acquired better results... I still have to experiment a bit more and Lockdown claims to have an update that speeds it up... Either way Mocha Pro will always be in my arsenal but lockdown is quite powerful... In the end competition usually only helps the consumers in thoery that is...
But also depends on the circumstances... In a perfect world every track works flawlessly... Professionally it's more about budget and time constraints per project as well... I feel Mocha Pro offers a lot more than lockdown...
Similar idea, yeah. Mocha is a larger suite of tracking tools of which Power Mesh is a feature and it works in many editing pipelines. Lockdown does the one thing and only for Ae. Does that help clear it up?
Yes, PowerMesh features exist in the standalone Mocha Pro, but there are slightly more limited workflows at the moment. You can render a reverse stabilized comp, then do your paint or effects and then import back in to render the warp back. In the future, the Insert module of Mocha pro will also have the ability to do a similar comp mesh warped graphics, etc. Hope this helps.
@@akizilkaya I believe the issue is you are trying to launch Mocha Pro from the animation menu? In 2021 the "Launch Mocha" from the animation menu is broken to launch Mocha Pro standalone. This is fixed and the new version coming in next few days. You will want to look for 20201.01 on Monday. If you own Mocha Pro 20201, you can also install the Adobe plugin. All standalone licenses include the ability to run plugin.
This is now fixed in the newest Mocha Pro 2021.01 point release. But if you only have the standalone installed, you do have to download and install the Mocha Pro Adobe plugin. Mocha Pro standalone licenses will enable the plugin.
Hope you can please help me and others. Davinic Resolve is a super popular program. And the new Mocha powermesh would be a dream come true for me if I could figure it out. I have worked on this for 2 days trying to figure out how to use Mocha powermesh in Davinic Resolve. I have it all working and can go to the resolve portion but dont know what to do. I have searched for several hours on any basic tutorials on using the new Mocha powermesh in Davinic resolve. I know its simple. But need just a little help. So many tutorials on powermesh in after effects but none for Davinic Resolve A getting started beginner type tutorial as I can do all powermesh well in After Effects just not Davinci. Even just a paragraph in your description would get me and others going. And as I mentioned I totally can work with powermesh in After Effects so I do know how to use powermesh. A paragrah or a video tutorial on just the begging workflow would really be apprecated. Thank You
I'm more of a mocha person because it's a suite of tools that can do many things. It contains tools for stabilization, roto, removal, clean plate creation. It's like if I would prefer a wrench or a workshop. Some people just need a wrench. But, any time I'm doing vfx work, I will most likely need every tool on the shelf to pull off complex shots reliably and quickly. Power Mesh is one of the many things available in Mocha.
@@ECAbrams When you activate the render for the stabilize warp the track doesn’t apply to the layer. It’s a known bug that they’re working on. Out of 10 attempts I was only able to get this to work twice. It has something to do when you’re working with trimmed layers. But I haven’t been able to get it to work very well without trimming the layers either so I don’t know. It’s very frustrating
@@ECAbrams I thought the same thing. So I rendered out the trimmed layer and brought it back in after effects. It’s still hit or miss on whether it worked or not. Apparently some people are experiencing intermittent issues with it. Hopefully they’ll have a patch for it soon.
![Top 6 Mocha Problems in Adobe After Effects [Track Data Mistakes]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/1tWKdbjKLNE/mqdefault.jpg)
What a great speaker, your voice, presentation, speech control, are way too perfect.
I am a mid-skill AE freelancer since years, so I do understand the basic logic behind AE designs/animations. However, I gotta say, even tho your videos are supposed to be just tutorials, I can just watch them regularly for entertainment and chill. Its satisfying. The techniques you use are insane. Sometimes I watch your videos in my bed before trying to sleep. Thank you so much for making my time watching your videos worthwhile.
That excitement in your voice when you figured out the mesh + puppet workflow! Great tutorial (Y)
Oh man. That is a game changer. It’s two meshes. Mesh on mesh meshing! More mesh than I can measure!
Now we need a 10 hour long version of Evan Abrams saying "it's magic" and the "ooooh
and the "oh so simple" on repeat...
Never believe it’s not so. :)
If you are having issues like I was applying the tracking data to your new comp and it not doing anything.. The issue seems to be a bug if you trimmed your footage in AE and then tracked it. To fix this, trim your footage, then precomp it. Apply mocha and track it on the precomp. This worked for me
I can't try it now but i definitively will. Thanks
precompose with all attributes ?? I have just trim my footage and it didn't work like you said.. now i will try to pre-comp the trim, but moving all attributes ?
God, I rummaged through all UA-cam and Google, but the answer to how to use PowerShell I found only from you. Thank you great man! You saved my nerves)
Glad I could help!
This is a real useful and direct to the point tutorial. Thanks so much
Glad it was helpful!
I really like the enthusiasm and exitment of yours! and really love the video!!
How did you change the color of the (x-spline tool) in 1:30 seconds?
I get so much out of your tutorials, even when they're about features I don't currently use. Always good to know what's possible!
Hello, Can you please tell me if you can use ELEMENT 3D objects on a powermesh? If so that would be amazing! Thank You for any info :) 😉🌺
It's an interesting idea. I'm not super up on how Element works. But since Power Mesh can generate a null cloud, or an alembic, so long as you can use either as an emitter for element you should be good.
@@ECAbrams Thank You ! :)
Love frm Los Angeles (also I am Canadian!) awesome videos my man
6:10 had me laughing so hard! WAY too relatable hahaha. Great video man thank you. I'm hyped about this new Mocha
6:40
I have a problem with null objects when applying the mocha effect. I can't get them to acquire the transformation value changes
Is this a case where the time index of the layer and comp may have a miss match. After you apply the data, check for "when" the keyframes might be. I was surprised to find them at 00:00 on the layer when I expected them at 00:00 on the comp.
Great tutorial... I feel this got more to the point than Boris FX did in explaining this new feature.. You're the breast!!!
Great tutorial as always! Keep it up.
Please help me if place Mocha ae I didn't get that parameters like mesh and else even I click on use this version to ae I didn't get that please help
I really need help I followed ever step and my image dosent follow or distort or anything plz help😭😭😭
You may be missing one little critical thing. Without seeing what specifically you're doing it's hard to really say. I would recommend taking it very slowly and breaking it down step by step to understand what each phase is meant to "do" in the process. It's better to understand the steps than follow the recipe. I hope that helps and best of luck.
@@ECAbrams I have the exact same problem. I followed every step, but once I finally got to the step of Module Render, nothing happened.
@ECAbrams
bro... Guys. Please Help me. I cant see Mesh Button/Option under the Perspective in Mocha pro. Please guide me how to enable it.
For me does not show Generate Mesh buttons
but sometimes it changes the postion when i enable apply matte
Which things are changing position?
One of most amusing ttrls I like how u do
Thanks for the lesson, it was very helpful for me. I like it, if you can do the lesson "how you remove intercepting hands, not disturb to power mesh" really I can't understand that part. so I'm stuck there. I'm a new guy to your channel. anyway, thanks for everything. your channel helps me learn a lot of things to improve my VFX knowledge.
I don't have the MESH function under Track menu. There are: translation, scale, rotation, shear and perspective only. But no Mesh?
Are you in Mocha Pro or Mocha Ae? And which version?
@@evanabrams2735 I have AE2020 and AE22 Moch Pro version is 2020. Yet Inside AE i can see both Mocha and Mocha Pro in effects menu. But Mocha Pro has no Mesh feature. So sad.
Thanks for your tutorial's. Please review the new features of Mocha 2022 for: Lock-stable stabilization (when the camera follows the movement of a person), insertion /removal of graffiti on the plane, as well as attachment /removal with overlapping objects. Thanks
Wow!! Great tips & techniques
Wow!! Amazing tutorial 👍
Thank you so much.
I keep doing this over and over again and I cannot get a logo to stick
HI Abrams! Im using standalone mocha pro. what process is the easier way to move all the datas from mocha to ae?
looks amazing
Lockdown or Mocha Pro's Powermesh?
Lockdown, hands down.
Lockdown is too slow tho
hmm didn't work for me... but i saw in your video that your initial footage is already a composition there, not the initial footage (mp4 or whatever).. Why you have (pre-compose ????) the initial footage ? is this a step not included in the video ?
You might be encountering an error for "when" the keyframes are being created. Check on the timeline for if they're at a timecode not in the work area. I precomposed just so the footage started at 00:00. I didn't realize it was sometimes an issue till later. I hope that helps.
@@ECAbrams I just confirm that in order to work someone should precompose the initial footage before especially when the part he is using is a trim-part
@@georges8408 I'm not sure. An update may have fixed that up. I think what's more important is the time code. If in doubt, precompose and make sure that timecode starts at zero. But if you run into more trouble, I would hit up the BorisFx forums. They would have more accurate answers to the latest version of the plugin.
@@ECAbrams Thanks man.. I m already there but youttube video-tutorials like yours is better for me. Also, the evolution of Mocha have changed a bit the workflow compared to some years before.
Amazing work. A small detailed overlooked of nature, fire doesn't flow up digonally, it always flows up vertically, it doesn't care if surfaces are inclined. But otherwise fantastic.
Good detail. In the original piece, we used the puppet pin to pull bend and skew the fire to appear to move vertically even when the origin is diagonal. Like how the fire from a gas burner appears to blow out horizontally then curves up. It's a few more steps than we covered here, but got the job done pretty well.
love the tutorial. Good job
Great Job!!!
Lockdown 1.5 vs Mocha
I second that.
It is not a contest and please note that there was mesh tracking in Nuke and Flame using optical flow 3 years before Lockdown. It was not the first to use optical flow for tracking and will not be the last. Mocha's new PowerMesh sub-planar tracking was developed at the request of the userbase and does not use optical flow. PowerMesh can also be used to drive roto and stabilization. Mocha Pro can be run in Premiere, Avid, Flame, Nuke, Fusion, Vegas Pro, and other hosts. Lastly, PowerMesh is one of many features in Mocha Pro. It is a bit apples vs oranges.
@@BorisFXco lol, it's clearly a contest
Agreed... As a long term Mocha Pro user who just started using Lockdown i feel Mocha Pro is much faster but lockdown acquired better results... I still have to experiment a bit more and Lockdown claims to have an update that speeds it up... Either way Mocha Pro will always be in my arsenal but lockdown is quite powerful... In the end competition usually only helps the consumers in thoery that is...
But also depends on the circumstances... In a perfect world every track works flawlessly... Professionally it's more about budget and time constraints per project as well... I feel Mocha Pro offers a lot more than lockdown...
Thank you sir!!! You're awesome ♥
Nice!
Is this like lockdown plug in?
Similar idea, yeah. Mocha is a larger suite of tracking tools of which Power Mesh is a feature and it works in many editing pipelines. Lockdown does the one thing and only for Ae. Does that help clear it up?
@@ECAbrams Excellent explanation, thanks
Hey! Can we do the same thing with the Stand Alone version? Please let me know
Yes, PowerMesh features exist in the standalone Mocha Pro, but there are slightly more limited workflows at the moment. You can render a reverse stabilized comp, then do your paint or effects and then import back in to render the warp back. In the future, the Insert module of Mocha pro will also have the ability to do a similar comp mesh warped graphics, etc. Hope this helps.
@@BorisFXco Thank you. Good to know, I was wandering to get this answer.
i have Mocha Pro 2021, i use it as stand alone. but i cant see Mocha Pro in After Effects, Mocha AE only. any ideas?
I would look into the support docs on the Boris site. It sounds like the install may not have worked correctly.
@@ECAbrams i made a check but didnt find any problem like mine. i will reinstall i guess, i will update this if it fix. thanks.
@@akizilkaya I believe the issue is you are trying to launch Mocha Pro from the animation menu? In 2021 the "Launch Mocha" from the animation menu is broken to launch Mocha Pro standalone. This is fixed and the new version coming in next few days. You will want to look for 20201.01 on Monday. If you own Mocha Pro 20201, you can also install the Adobe plugin. All standalone licenses include the ability to run plugin.
This is now fixed in the newest Mocha Pro 2021.01 point release. But if you only have the standalone installed, you do have to download and install the Mocha Pro Adobe plugin. Mocha Pro standalone licenses will enable the plugin.
@@BorisFXco Okay, thanks for helping.
Amazing
Hope you can please help me and others. Davinic Resolve is a super popular program. And the new Mocha powermesh would be a dream come true for me if I could figure it out. I have worked on this for 2 days trying to figure out how to use Mocha powermesh in Davinic Resolve. I have it all working and can go to the resolve portion but dont know what to do. I have searched for several hours on any basic tutorials on using the new Mocha powermesh in Davinic resolve. I know its simple. But need just a little help. So many tutorials on powermesh in after effects but none for Davinic Resolve A getting started beginner type tutorial as I can do all powermesh well in After Effects just not Davinci. Even just a paragraph in your description would get me and others going. And as I mentioned I totally can work with powermesh in After Effects so I do know how to use powermesh. A paragrah or a video tutorial on just the begging workflow would really be apprecated. Thank You
Have you checked out the Boris Fx site and channels?
Don't work for me i don't get it.. I followed to a T shits a shame
You mean Lock Down Killer???
power mesh?
Power. Mesh.
U like mocha or lockdown? For this work.
I'm more of a mocha person because it's a suite of tools that can do many things. It contains tools for stabilization, roto, removal, clean plate creation. It's like if I would prefer a wrench or a workshop. Some people just need a wrench. But, any time I'm doing vfx work, I will most likely need every tool on the shelf to pull off complex shots reliably and quickly. Power Mesh is one of the many things available in Mocha.
Ну че парни с лока на моку
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
As of 5/25/2021 This technique doesn't work - no resolution from BFX yet: forum.borisfx.com/t/power-mesh-not-working-in-after-effects/10055/7
Interesting. What happens instead? So far as I know the technique remains the same.
@@ECAbrams When you activate the render for the stabilize warp the track doesn’t apply to the layer. It’s a known bug that they’re working on. Out of 10 attempts I was only able to get this to work twice. It has something to do when you’re working with trimmed layers. But I haven’t been able to get it to work very well without trimming the layers either so I don’t know. It’s very frustrating
@@mattferris3767 So, if this has no impact on non trimmed layers, would precomposing only the clip you want be the solution?
@@ECAbrams I thought the same thing. So I rendered out the trimmed layer and brought it back in after effects. It’s still hit or miss on whether it worked or not. Apparently some people are experiencing intermittent issues with it. Hopefully they’ll have a patch for it soon.
so that's the lockdown plugin dead then!
lockdown looks more advanced tbh
RIP Lockdown
Is it that your voice is really sounding very akin to Seth Rogen's or is it just me feeling that way ?
We are both Canadian? Maybe that's what you're hearing.