Oliver Hydra-Lectric... What is it?

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  • Опубліковано 14 тра 2018
  • By 1950, Oliver had a hydraulic system that was not only live, but totally electric over hydraulic. It was ahead of its time, and perhaps because of that, the electric switches and components had trouble with dirt and moisture. Most farmers cut the external wires off both the hydraulic unit and cylinders and used them as a simple up and down lift. When they were fully functional, the operator could adjust the position of the depth stop on the cylinder from the tractor, and then just move the lever up or down where it would lock in until the cylinder reached the end of its travel.

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  • @bobbybest9472
    @bobbybest9472 2 місяці тому +1

    Thank you very much! Just bought my grandfather's 1951 Oliver 77 and back home.

  • @johnkissack5295
    @johnkissack5295 2 роки тому +2

    Thanks for sharing. When we bought out 1962 770 had it. It was very handy.

    • @lesliebrennan3351
      @lesliebrennan3351 Рік тому

      We just bought a 770 diesel with front loader. I saw the wire were cut just front of the levers. This saves me extra work now. I don't implement. Will just work a Gannon or rippers. The reservoir doesn't stay full. I thought maybe the front loader rams were dry and thats why I kept pumping in fluid. We bought all the manuals from Jensales. Best I guess to take off the reservoir and rebuild it. Need that break ram to work.

  • @danrenz2858
    @danrenz2858 2 роки тому +1

    We had a 77 Oliver with that pretty cool

  • @davejohnson2937
    @davejohnson2937 Рік тому +1

    thanks for making this video its very informative.. i wondered how it all worked..

  • @Dan-qy1rg
    @Dan-qy1rg 11 днів тому

    Cool beans, I didn't know about these on the Olivers. I clicked on the link from Ross' video on the 1650, thanks Chris, I hope you have a good night!

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  11 днів тому +1

      Thanks Dan! The patent for the hydra electric is large because they had to invent so many things to make it work.

  • @danw6014
    @danw6014 Рік тому +1

    I would agree that it was ahead of it's time. I just got a Super 77 diesel with the Hydra electric system that is not all there and I have to decide whether or not to repair it. In the 1950s Chrysler developed an electronic fuel injection system for the big Chryslers. Although the engines ran well, the components could not handle the weather. The diodes would fail. Chrysler recalled them and all and converted them back to carburetors. I'm not sure which engine was used for this but I believe it was the 392 Hemi.

  • @johnirwin1837
    @johnirwin1837 5 років тому +2

    Dad got it on his brand new 88 in March of '49. It worked slick and yes it had its issues. My brother still has that tractor and it runs. He has a sentimental attachment to it as he can along in the same month.

  • @cannonballrepair7940
    @cannonballrepair7940 4 роки тому +4

    I had no idea about the stop collar. Thanks for sharing! There’s a Super 66 behind my house that has a cultivator under it with all the wires running to the hydraulic cylinders. I’ve got to check that out.

  • @burningdinosaurs
    @burningdinosaurs 6 років тому +2

    Super cool! Super cool! I knew how they worked in theory, but have never actually seen one work in action! That is still an awesome feature today! It really was so far ahead of it's time, that even today, it would still be considered an advanced system! Thanks for the video and demonstration!

  • @williamchambers7235
    @williamchambers7235 6 років тому +2

    I wondered why the hydraulic levers had those buttons on it. Thanks for the explanation.

  • @66Oliver
    @66Oliver 6 років тому +1

    Thanks for the video! I’ve never actually never knew how they worked correctly.

  • @herbertv827
    @herbertv827 4 роки тому +2

    Have a 65 1650 the buttons are still there on it and some of the wiring, would be neat to get it working again. Will be rewiring the the whole tractor in the near future, the 55 year old wiring is showing it's age

  • @rickfisher4616
    @rickfisher4616 5 років тому +1

    My 1655 has those buttons. I also have a 77 that had the electric, but like you said, the wires were cut and the switches are stuck. My super 77 , I wondered why the hydraulic levers moved that way. Thanks for sharing

  • @lawrencekieffer6770
    @lawrencekieffer6770 4 роки тому +3

    thanks i still have the button on the 1550 but the wires are gone same way with a cylinder hopefully some day it. will be restored. i always wondered how it worked and now i do

  • @hughperkins707
    @hughperkins707 4 роки тому +2

    So far ahead of their time. Unfortunately didn’t have the electrical sealed good enough

  • @nellsonstout7001
    @nellsonstout7001 4 роки тому +3

    Fun fact: if you have closed captioning on, when you start the super 88, the caption says “music”

  • @mattlf9120
    @mattlf9120 2 роки тому +1

    We have a 1555 diesel with that system, it's original to that tractor.

  • @johnwarren-649
    @johnwarren-649 4 роки тому

    I've got a couple of them old cylinders at then home farm

  • @glenirwin1110
    @glenirwin1110 2 роки тому +1

    When did Oliver come out with the Hydra hitch three point? I assume it was their first three pointer. I've seen older tractors with it but no one seems to know if they were factory mounted or retro fitted kits put on later. Thanks.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  2 роки тому

      I don't know exactly when , somewhere around 1953. It was an after thought on the part of Oliver, trying to play catch up with the other brands. It was a bolt on unit that could be ordered from the factory or added to an existing tractor. There were quite a few variations on it as well, due to design improvements that always go with a product that is rushed to market. They did much better with the Super 55 and its integral 3 point with draft control.

    • @glenirwin1110
      @glenirwin1110 2 роки тому

      @@ThatOliverGuyChris Yes the did.

    • @glenirwin1110
      @glenirwin1110 2 роки тому

      @@ThatOliverGuyChris Yes they did on the Super 55 Nice tractors!

  • @ryanmcgranahan2615
    @ryanmcgranahan2615 2 роки тому +1

    Chris:. I am restoring a Super 77 gas with a series 3 Hydralectric system (just like the super 88 in this video). If I do not intend to use the Hydralectric system and instead just plan on using regular cylinders, do I still need to put on the Hydralectric wiring harness when I rewire the tractor?

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  2 роки тому

      You can use regular hydraulic cylinders with it and leave the wiring harnesses off. It's common to find where some snipped the harness off and left the base in to keep dirt out. Korves Oliver has reproduction harnesses if you want to put a set on for looks, and you'd still be able to use a regular cylinder.

  • @prjndigo
    @prjndigo 4 роки тому +3

    If you can fix a diesel engine you can fix the systems too but once someone ripped it out it was gone.

  • @RustyCarnahan
    @RustyCarnahan 6 років тому +1

    So, on the series one system, did the switch operate a solenoid valve?

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  6 років тому +3

      RustyCarnahan That's correct. On series 1 and 2 there is a solenoid on the inside that actuates the valve. Series 1 did have a small peg on the side that you can put a small wrench on to manually actuate the valve. Series 2 had levers built into those same spots that were much easier to use, but still had the internal solenoids. Series 3 had to be run exclusively with the levers.

    • @RustyCarnahan
      @RustyCarnahan 6 років тому

      Chris Losey, thanks. That clears up just about everything I've ever wondered about Oliver's Hydra-Lectric setup.

  • @davidhunt3988
    @davidhunt3988 6 років тому +2

    Why doesnt my 1855 return to neutral when done back or forward on the handle

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  6 років тому +2

      David Hunt That's a detent type valve that just needs an adjustment. Sounds like something for another video.

    • @davidhunt3988
      @davidhunt3988 6 років тому +1

      Chris Losey ok cool so it can be adjusted !

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  6 років тому +3

      Yep. You pop the cap off the back of the valve and stick an Allen wrench in there and turn it to adjust how easy it kicks out. I don't remember the wrench size off the top of my head, maybe 1/8".

    • @davidhunt3988
      @davidhunt3988 6 років тому +1

      I will check it out...thanks

  • @TeresaJohnson-ew4us
    @TeresaJohnson-ew4us 11 місяців тому +2

    I have a oliver 77 i bought i need your help to help me identifiy which hydraulics mine had
    There is a series 1 hydraulucs
    There is a series 2 hydraulics
    There is a series 3 hydraulics
    There is a power tool hydraulics
    I am not sure which hydraulic lift mine has can you make me a video going over abd talking all the hydraulic opitons for a 77 oliver
    Also you hit the lever down by hydraulics to start do all oliver 77 start this way mine dies not have that lever ny hydraulics ???

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  11 місяців тому +1

      The series 1 hydraulics don't have a filter and no mechanical levers, it was all operated by electric switches.
      Series 2 had the electric controls, but also had manual levers on the side of the reservoir. The electric may have been removed over the years
      Series 3 had the levers out the top and no electric switches.
      The power tool hydraulics was entirely mechanical, and you rotated the levers instead of moving them up and down.

    • @TeresaJohnson-ew4us
      @TeresaJohnson-ew4us 11 місяців тому +1

      @ThatOliverGuyChris on the second oliver in this video you pull a rod/lever down low by hydraulics to start this tractor do all oliver 77 have this mine does not ??

    • @TeresaJohnson-ew4us
      @TeresaJohnson-ew4us 11 місяців тому +1

      @ThatOliverGuyChris and were there any oliver 77 that came from factory without pto ??
      Mine does not have pto it I think it is factory no pto is this rare ??

    • @TeresaJohnson-ew4us
      @TeresaJohnson-ew4us 11 місяців тому +1

      If your tractor had series 1 hydraulics and you had dual remotes would that mean 2 electric levers by steering instead of 1 yours in video has 1 not 2 ??

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  11 місяців тому +1

      @@TeresaJohnson-ew4us that starter lever was only on diesel models. Gas engines had a push button on the dash. Any of the hydraulic units could be ordered as a single remote with only one lever and/or switch. Pto was an option the 77 could be ordered without. It's pretty rare to find one that way from the factory, but it did happen. A lot of them don't have it now because guys take it off to lower the weight for tractor pulling

  • @dawinner777
    @dawinner777 3 роки тому +1

    What is a hydra lectra worth. We had Oliver’s we I was a kid

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  3 роки тому

      A complete working unit ought to be worth $500, more if it has been gone through.

  • @jimborchert9198
    @jimborchert9198 Рік тому

    Run the tractor and show us. Talkin about it not helpful