CAT V8 DIESEL POWER! Oliver 2255 hauls in the last of the 2020 wheat harvest.
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- Опубліковано 4 вер 2024
- Time to switch things up! The Oliver 2255 went on the wagons, the Fleetline 77 is on the auger, and the Massey Ferguson 8570 combine is doing the harvesting. Nothing like being on the last day and trying to beat the rain.
Great video. Always nice to see Oliver tractors at work.
Thanks!
Well I'll say this, I'm glad to see these Oliver's still being used and not just sitting around. Glad you got done Chris
The caterkiller! I love the sound of all those naturally-aspirated V8 four stroke diesels from that era
Love those 3208 cats with straight exhaust
@@tomrobards7753 got a 7-3 IDI sounds very similar
3208 or older?
@@ronaldpiper4812 I believe Chris's is an early one with the original 3150 Cat V8
I would've loved to have been raised on a fram rather then the big city. I think inspite of the hard work and bugs, you appreciate life and creation better.
That closing picture during the evening light makes for a great view, Thanks for taking us along in your adventures. Appreciate the time
I have to compliment you on using the old iron like they are supposed to be used. Under load, full throttle. So many sites with older tractors use a four bottom plow on a six bottom tractor at 1/2 throttle. Nice to see them used not abused. Plus using them as opposed to sitting keep the seals soft and the internal components lubed and less rust. Good job always enjoy watching the old Olivers greeting a workout!! Plus if something happen like the 2-155, you can rebuild yourself.
Always love seeing the older stuff still in use😎👍
Thanks, Ed!
I enjoy watching your videos Chris, they have a peacefulness to them.
Thanks 👍
The guys that have these older tractors and equipment are really good mechanics! They don’t have a computer that tells them what’s wrong. They rely on good old fashioned head knowledge and smarts that guys like that were born with and by the knowledge that was handed down to by the older generation! You guys are the best! What I refer to as REAL MECHANICS!
Really like that V8 Cat & the 2255!! Glad you got the wheat done. Thanks for the vid. Take care & stay safe. Cheers
Loved looking at those Oliver gauges. Brought back a lot of memories. Those are and we’re good tractors.
Thank you Chris,
For taking the time to film/edit videos of your beautiful farm and really cool equipment. I have learned a lot about Oliver equipment from you. Where I grew up on a small farm there was not any Oliver dealers close by so didn't see many on the farms in the Thumb area.
Stay well, Boe
Thank you for watching!
Love that 2255. Something about cat engines....always liked them.
Man gotta love the roar of these old 70s and 80s v8 naturally aspirated diesels very durable and sound fantastic on the governor screaming they all where loud but nothing was as loud as a screamin international id i7.3 or 9.0 could hear them for miles Makes you realize just how bad and cheap these new diesels sound sound like they are about to fly apart.
We usually went around "weedy" spots like that. Not worth having "dirty" grain. Love the 2255's, think those were the best Oliver's with the exception of the 1850's. Great video, cheers :)
Tractors miss running them 2255 & 2150 was always my favorites
Hasnt ran in over a year and cracks straight up now thats reliability and build quality they dont make stuff like they used to .
Great angle from the wagon. love your videos and tractors. keep it up!!!!
Thanks, will do!
I used to work for a farmer, my favorite tractor was the Oliver row crop, it could do everything and it had power steering when the Farmall didn't :)
Stay away from the p.t.o on the auger tractor. Accidents happen. This is a lovely video. Never heard of olives before. Glad to see they are in working condition.
It's a good feeling when you get it done and in the bin before the weather turns...
Then it didn't rain the next day. Still a great motivator.
Love the 2255! Thank you for the video hope harvest is going well.
Many thanks for the explanation of the powering of the red auger.
Have little experience of these and have never seen one like that.
Could not see how it was powered.
Clever design.
Again thanks.
Nice video as always..... 👍👍
You learn something everyday.....
I grew up north of Frankenmuth, Mom still lives on what's left of the farm. This time of year she still reminds me, if there's rain in the forecast it must be time for the wheat to come off.
Great vid Chris, I think last year when you had the 2255 out that was when I came across your channel.
It looks like I need to film it more!
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey lol maybe so!
I wish Oliver’s were still being made, in my humble opinion they are the best tractors ever made! Thanks for sharing. New sub here and I’ll probably going on a mini marathon of your early video’s. Stay safe and keep well
Welcome aboard!
Oh how I love the Cat V8's! They always seem to start so easy. Looked like a little bit of power hop going on there too. Awesome video as usual sir and glad to see that your wheat harvest went pretty smoothly.
I was surprised I got more power hop out the 2255 tham Herman on that hill. The wagons were loaded pretty full that load, though.
Damn i love watchin ol machinery work amen to u
Chris I think you are top dog with the Oliver's. The best. Cant say of the best of the best because of the tire cost but when those Detroit's pull hard it is truly a thing of beauty. Thank you for the videos.
Thank you for watching!
Ah yes…the blue haze. One summer I spent a month or so in a Massey 1805 with a 3208 motor. It only smoked when cold, but it was best to fire it up and leave the area for ten minutes. I was discing newly broken land in a swampy area with a 16 foot Kello-Bilt breaking disc. Not a bad tractor, considering he paid very little for it. Nice cab, big uninterrupted windows. He later got the big Massey with the V8 Cummins in it, but I never ran it.
Love your videos but also how you explain everything about the machines and how they work.
G'day Chris great video it is so nice of Herman to let the other tractors pull the wagons 👍😁🍻
Hello Murphy! He plays well with others. Lol
Nice to have the harvest done and no major breakdowns. Always hated that foxtail weed. Sometimes would jamb the cylinder.
Those old girls fire on the first revolution.
That Oliver is a cool Cat but he doesn’t sound anything like Herman! Love to hear Herman with that screamin’ Detroit two-stroke diesel! Music to my ears!
Love are old tractor in the winter if the new tractor don’t get started and run then the batters will be dead but the old one fire right up they don’t make things like they used to that’s for sure
Great Video Watch the top bearing in the bottom gear box, they don't always get adequate lube from the factory and oil level doesn't go high enough. What I have done is pack the bearing with grease and install a grease zerk between the bearing and the seal 1 shot a year and haven't had any issues since.
Good to know, thanks for the tip!
nice work glad you had the wether to grow this year I am not fare from MI border about 30mins from coldwater MI and farmers got hit hard this year the weather has been crazy
It is neat to see farmers like you that actually have to steer their machinery, watch what their machines are doing and not sit in their cabs playing solitare or watching ?? on their laptops. I remember when old farmers accused other farmers who ordered cabs on their combines of having to squat to pee.
If White had not robbed the money from Oliver and the name had survived thru into Agco we might have seen Oliver name instead of MF and Fendt. Fendt is poised to make a huge entry into the high horsepower tractors in North America. Great electronics, great power, great ergonomics and an all around fine tractor. And a great combine and of course do not forget their Ro-Gater sprayer/ spreader stuff.
I remember the first time I saw an autosteer booth at the farm machinery show in Louisville. The video show a rather large farmer turning the tractor on the headlands, and then once he was one the row, he engaged the autosteer. Then he proceeded to pick up a bag of chips and a soda and ate on them while crossing the field. I thought to myself right then, autosteer makes you fat. I've got plenty of that already.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I even saw where a local farmer has an auto hitch on his anhydrous trailers. Where is the thrill in farming anymore? Computers do all of the thinking, custom companies come and do all of the soil testings, do all of the repairs on machinery, the machinery itself calls the dealer and tells them something is failing long before the operator wakes up to the fact that their grandfathers who started the farm had to do all of that themselves instead of spending a month or two in some Shangrila place on the globe for the winter. Yep, most of today's new breed of farmers just drive computers. But when they pay $600,000 or more for tractors, combines, sprayers, $4,000 a row for planters, and have to worry about farmer Joe down the road buying a bigger or fancier piece of equipment.
I can see where the accuracy of auto steer pays off in wide equipment like sprayers and fertilizer spreaders, misapplication is costly. But overall, we have been training our replacements. We buy the autosteer, so more research goes into improving it. The day is coming where there will be no need for an operator, just someone to answer the text from the equipment if it has trouble. It will run 24/7, weather permitting, and will allow the big farms to get even bigger, leaving the control of our food in the hands of just a few.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris AMEN! But as society has been affected by the pandemic I think that those that predict some killer virus taking down the WWW, all of that fancy equipment will still have to be paid for even if it cannot run.
I remember when soybeans went from $15 to $3 a bushel and farmers were going out into their big new machine sheds, looking at their expensive new equipment, all of which they could not pay for and stepping off the walkway of their $40,000 combine with the rope around their neck tied to a rafter. To me, that was when small farmers either became bigger farmers or walked away from farming after selling their outdated equipment for nothing at auction and rented their ground out to the bigger farmers which gave a guaranteed income level.
Life is a big circle, so there just might be the return back to smaller farmers. Especially when big farms get to 2nd and 3rd generations and the relatives do not see eye to eye and forced division of ground.
Got so used to the screaming 2stroke diesel powered Olivers I thought something was wrong when you fired up the 2255 lol
Lol
Finally the 2255!!! Love that beast it would be awsome to own one
Id love to see more of the 2255 with the v8 cat
Here's the playlist of the videos it's in
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V8 sounded great. I kind of thought it was a Cat. Back in the 70's I drove freight liners cab overs with 903 v8 Cummings with 13 speed transmissions.
Loved the old deitroits the best
I still run a Freightliner with a VT903 ua-cam.com/video/VY5u2oywa6w/v-deo.html
Good stuff. Digging the channel. Love the Olivers.
You have a great looking place.👍
Thank you!
That 3208 cat sounds great.
good feeling to finish up once again.
Always
My grandpa had a cat 3208 in his steiger bearcat II 4wd, dad said it was a good motor but when it had issues it was a pain in the ass to work on.
Although not the awesome sound of the Detroit it sill made for a really good video bro. Frost here this morning but we are in the middle of winter I guess. All the best and stay safe
The 77 is my favorite oliver
We had a super 77 diesel as a kid in that family farm
I am surprised that you haven't found yourself a Oliver or a White combine to play with on your farm.
I have an Oliver 525, but it developed a rod knock a few years ago. I also have a model 15 that needs a canvas.
Its funny how the outside duals looks like they are spinning faster than the inside tires are.
It kinda looked like a 3208 but all cat engines are great engine's I'd love to put a size approximate mold board plow behind the old Oliver and turn that wheat field under that would bring back memories , I'd would almost do that for free LOL !!!
I have a video on here of this 2255 pulling 8 bottoms in wheat stubble.
I am a JD man but I do like the Oliver’s and White too. Thx for video.
Put the super 99 Detroit diesel on the auger next I think that would be cool.
I would love to, but it doesn't have PTO. I've got some of the parts, but need a few more to add it on. I was thinking about hooking it to a wagon for oat harvest.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey ya I probably should have thought about that ...that not every tractor has a pto on it lol
Made me sneeze seeing the weeds coming up through the wheat. Here it would be rag weed growing and as I got older I sneeze more.
Usually ragweed is what I'm fighting at wheat harvest. It goes through the combine easier than foxtail.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris yes it does but it kills my sinuses. Getting old is hell lol.
Just wondered why you guys don’t used Round Up for fall desiccation, we’ve been using it here in western Canada for 40 years
I did this year. My cousin knifes in manure on some of my wheat stubble, which leaves it like chisel plowed, so I disc it down afterwards to smooth it out and plant a cover crop. Then I do a burn down in the spring .
12:03 there was a spark on the outside of the distributor cap. Better have a look at it before it ignites some fuel vapor or something...!
Check that out, you're right! Looks like it's time for some new wires, cap and rotor.
Out of all the applications that used the cat v8s i always thought the 2255 oliver was about the best fit and use for it @140 horse it was not maxed out like most 3150s-3208s were at 200
Agreed. I ran a couple of Ford trucks with that engine, and the lower settings seemed more reliable over time. That was a decently torquey engine.
We have the same set wagons. But. The 1955 we have didn't have enough traction
The 77 sounds like she is pulling pretty hard.
That cheap stanley muffler really makes it cackle. I could just see some glow in the muffler when I dumped the last load after it was dark, so it was definitely working.
I always liked running for a little while after dark to see a small patch of red on the muffler, but the best was when it was just a touch on the rich side to get a nice 2 inch tall blue flame right above the top of the stack.
The guy who does our combining has a 13 inch by 75? Foot FarmKing swing auger. The capacity of that thing is just beastly. To think that they also make a 15 inch auger.....
Sure beats our little 7incher.
I was amazed how much more capacity I had going from 8 to 10 inch. I bet it takes a good sized tractor to run 13 inches in the fully raised position.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris He runs it with a Mf399(99pto hp)
Imagine if Oliver decided to use a 6V53 instead of the 3150/3208. Why didn't they Turbocharged the 4-53? I imagine the Cat is a touch lighter than a 6V53.
Hi Chris, great video, Tell me, why the change to the Caterpillar engines? Was that an option instead of the Detroit or did Oliver discontinue the Detroit diesels or...? Thanks Al
In the early 70s, tractor manufacturers were on a V8 kick. IH had one, JD had one, Massey had one.... Oliver had moved away from the Detroit because they were getting expensive. They did leave the Detroit in the Industrial version of the 1950, industrial guys were familiar with the engine. Oliver usually outsourced the engine in their largest models, because their numbers weren't high enough to justify the cost of engineering. Cat fit the bill, big power in a V8 diesel.
Thanks Chris, your knowledge and experience is priceless. Al
Whats Brevant seeds? I musta seen that ad 500 times watching the youtube lately. Lol Good video.
Brevant, haven't heard of them.
Great video and love your machines !! How many acres in total do you farm?
About 900 tillable acres.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Do you do it all yourself?
Mostly. I hire out trucking, spraying and fertilizer spreading. I also have a couple of friends that help me out with fall harvest.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Wow, that's a lot of work!
It keeps me out of trouble. Lol
Who handles pulling the wagons better, Herman or the 2255?
I'd say the 2255. It has the 3 speed powershift, vs Herman's 2 speed. The 2255 was starting to power hop climbing that first hill, but I don't recall Herman doing it. I used 4th gear for both tractors, but with overdrive and taller wheels, the 2255 would go faster.
my reply conserning your growing Foxtail I always wondered was that just an old tradition or just cheap seed ! ( moved from farm in jan.1960 at age15 ) . J S
I always said that's the last rows I was looking for for when done Chris. You going to bake all the straw up or just turn it under for organic matter?
Some of both.
Hi,do you empty your gas/ diesal if you don't run your tractors for a long time or do you put some kind of stabilizer in? Just wondering because you said the 2255 hadn't run in over a year. Thanks love your videos
I use a stabilzer, and will do some draining, it depends on how often they get run.
That must have been a good hill in the field pulling the wagons back. So what will go in the ground now where the wheat was?
It was a decent sized hill, but not the worst in this field. Sometimes I have to do strategic driving to work my way around the steep ones. I'll be putting a cover crop of oats on this field, and next spring it will go into corn.
Chris can the input shaft out of the hydro in a 1650 be changed for the input shaft out of a1850?
Found a good hydro out of a 1650 but the shaft is smaller, due to a smaller clutch I presume. Help, please.
Up here in Canada they’re very rare to find reasonable parts.
Yes. Just gotta pull the cover and switch the shafts. Depending on the age, the cover may be sealed by either a gasket or by an oring, so you might have to switch the shaft between the front covers. This apllies to the 2 speed and the 3 speed shafts. A 2 speed shaft won't work in a 3 speed and vice versa. Hope I didn't muddy that up too much.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey thank you, I love the content of your videos and your replies to my questions, I wish I had your knowledge of some of the best tractors ever built.
My 1966 1650 has about 7000 hours on it all I’ve ever done to it was a blown head gasket 40 + years ago. Too much ether 🤨
Glad I can help. That's why I started this youtube channel, to help people keep these great tractors going.
Since the V8 kitty cat is all the rage for this video, I have a question - was it ever common to see someone put dual straight pipes (or even duals with mufflers) on any of the Oliver/White tractors? I love the way the IH V8s look with chrome stacks, but don't think I've ever seen such on an Ollie/White/MF V8.
I've sewn a few where they flip manifolds side to side and straight pipe or dual muffler them , shooting straight up in the air. The factory setup has each side meeting at a Y under the oil pan then coming up the front between the engine and radiator. Some guys switch manifolds and bring it to the front on each side, meeting in a Y and then come up through the factory hole in the hood. This how the White 2-180 did it. A much cleaner setup that didn't bake the oil pan.
Do you have enough growing season left to replant your wheat ground, or will it fallow til next spring?
I'll plant a cover crop on it, but there's not enough season left here to grow a harvestable crop
Purrr kitty kitty! Love it! LOVE IT!! What gear were you pullin in out in the field?
Oh, I watched this one twice too. With commercials! And at regular speed!
4th gear, over most of the time. Might as well go for it and watch it a 3rd time!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Ha! Deal! I'll just put it on repeat out in the shop!
Got the internet all piped in out there?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Fully piped and running at maximum VPM (Videos Per Minute)!
Do you do all the work by yourself
A lot of it, but I do have a friend that helps in the fall.
Grandpa had a 1850 with yellow paint under the green can you tell me anything about this tractor that he had I always herd it was rare all i know is it sold for a lot of money
It probably had originally been built as an industrial, and got converted to an ag tractor. They would do it at the factory if it was what they needed to do to fill an order.
On the 77 what is the black knob on the dash for? You have it pulled out?
That's the engagement knob for the belt pulley. It is in the off position and comes out a little further when on.
How did 155 do this summer? Congratulations on getting your crop in before rain!
I haven't used the 2-155 since I finished planting, but it ran like champ for spring work.
I creeped through the last of that wheat, and then it didn't rain. We could use it too.
That Oliver Guy - Chris Losey What oil are you using in your Tractors?
I use Shell rotella 15w-40 in all my engines.
Oliver Guy question where to increase hydraulic pressure to Oliver 1950?
There's a hex plug on the right top side of the hydraulic unit near where your right leg is when seated. (Unless it has the external valve hydraulic system. ) That cap has the relief valve, and it sets the maximum pressure. You'll need a gauge to set it properly, but shims can be put in to increase the relief pressure. If your pump is worn out, it won't matter how many shims you put in there, because it never opens until it hits peak pressure, which is supposed to be around 2,000 psi. It is worth checking the relief, because I have found a broken spring before, which would lower the relief pressure setting and cause low pressure.
Here's the common scenario for these tractors.... power steering works, but the remotes and 3 point don't kick in until 1200, 1500 or higher rpm, and then they are slow and/or weak. That is a sure sign of a worn out pump. The priority valve makes sure the power steering has enough oil for safety and if flow and pressure are low enough, it will shut off the remotes and 3 point to keep the steering working. When the tractor is revved up, the pump output eventually gets high enough to turn the rest of the system back on, but it's still weak. Hope that helps.
What do you use for skin protection being that you are in the sun a lot?
A good base tan.
With all those Olivers, How did you come to own a Massey combine?
Massey Ferguson bought White Farm Equipment's combine line in the mid 80s. It was designed by White to be the 9320 and was just going into production when Massey Ferguson bought the line.
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would you like a helper in the future for your farm
Is that the original dash on that 2255?
Yes it is
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Cool. Never seen what I assume is a wooden gauge panel before.👍 Keep the old iron alive.
It's a wood grain decal, but it is original.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Oh😅... Well it's a very realistic looking decal.
How old is the combine? High hours?
It's a 91 model year, but we bought it new in 93. It has about 4800 hours on it now.
What's next corn or soybeans? And what was your BPA this season?
Oats are next. The wheat ended up about 69 bpa overall average.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that's pretty good. At least there's something good out of 2020
I'm happy with it. My soybeans are looking great at this point, so there's hope there, too.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris good luck man. Anything is an upside in these sad times. Hopefully by this time next year this will be all over
So it's really a white with Massey clothes?
Youve got it.
Four stroke?
Yes
How long has your farm been in business?
106 years
the cat's much better sounding.....and doesn't blow your eardrums out.
I should straight pipe it and do a decibel check.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris lol . smh.
I'm going to give you whiplash from all the head shaking. Lol
How do you like the Cat 3208 compared to the Detroit in Herman?
My 2255 has the 3150. It has more power than Herman, but it's supposed to. Neither are a lugging engine, open them up and let them work. The Cat starts better and sounds cool, but it's hard to beat the sound of a Detroit!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that's very true, it's so cool to hear those detroits wind up! Was the 3150 different displacement then the 3208?
Yes, the 3150 was around 573 cubic inches, the 3208 was 636. The 3208 only put out around 1 more horsepower in the 2255, but that was because of the specs Oliver wanted for the tractor, not because of the engine.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that makes sense, more cub's equals more lugging power but not so much power that it breaks stuff.
How do you sell the wheat?
I usually have it trucked to Toledo Ohio and sell it to which ever grain terminal is paying the best.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thanks! I always wondered how it works. Is there a limit that they buy?
What about corn?
There's no limit there. A lot of times you can gets a couple more cents a bushel if you lock in a large quantity for delivery.
The flour mills will stop taking wheat when their storage is full, which makes it a little tougher to get it to them, because they fill up fast during harvest.
My corn all goes to a nearby ethanol plant. Only the starch is used in that process, but the left over corn meal is high in protein and the ethanol plant sells that as animal feed.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris hey chris another great video! You wouldn't happen to know the seal numbers to the seals that go on the govenor shaft on a super 88 diesel by chance?
3208 cat?
3150
Is that a 3150 or a 3208
3150
@@ThatOliverGuyChris We had two 2255's one had the 3150 the other had the 3208
@@johanleroux7870 I dont know what the hp is on the 3150 maybe Chris can tell us
Do you bale the wheat straw and sell it?
Some of it. I've been baling some into a customer's kicker wagons.
I'm three min into vid and I can see all need a bath