The India Alternative | Can Germany and Europe Embrace It
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- This video was originally published by the German Day of Industry: • #TDI24 - New Powers, O...
Explore the evolving dynamics of global power with our expert panel. Can Germany and Europe stay ahead of rising powers? Learn more about India's meteoric rise and its implications for global leadership.
Speakers:
Benedikt Franke, Chief Executive Officer, Munich Security Conference
Samir Saran, President, Observer Research Foundation, India
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"Europe is not missing critical minerals but critical thinking" - Samir Saran
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A bunch of lost souls leading the EU countries 😂😂😂
Yeah...and indians who have critical thinking are begging for European investments lol.😂😂😂
This guy only has critical thinking in talks and useless debates without achieving anything.
@@roberts2697 People do investments for growth and not for philanthropy. If europe is doing investment in India then that means they know that their money is going to grow. It is not "begging" when you double the money. THats how basic economics work.
america = germany and whole europe's uncle sam
@@mihirpingle5067 Fair enough, but India's "growth" is basically someone getting 40% in lsat exam is now scoring 50%, i.e. havng 25% growth. Both infrastructure and skill level of workforce are appalling.
"There is no but, you are to blame" love this man.
12:34 It's your fault. 😂
The lady asks probing questions but still doesn't know that India's PM is the main dude not the president. This is the problem. With Europe and the USA. They just don't know enough about the world yet want to make rules for it.
Her general knowledge is abysmal
...as it happens when US is taken as a role model !😊
The lady look like having sever hangover
...well she should know since she has a german accent and in Germany the president has nothing to say. Only the chancellor...which is the equivalent to a P.M.
Atleast she is trying her best.
I don't know Dr. Samir, first time listened to him speak. Superlative. Bless you and India. Vetri South African Indian 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏
Samir is the president of ORF..biggest think tank of bharat.
@@BharatXtreme 🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏❤️❤️
Love you bro! We are together in this! Day will come when we lead this world financially.
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samir exposed european and western hypocrisy once again. well done.
Expose and do what ?
@@lokeshsag dude how low is your IQ to ask this stupid question?
@@lokeshsag
...make it part of mainstream conversation/narrative, instead of pretending it doesn't exist.
This then paves the way for the next move, workable way forward.
@@lokeshsag Aww the Rahul Gandhi of diplomacy.
@@lokeshsag if you follow germanroach you won't get it ...
The anchor really have had hard time grasping what was being said, while the audience and the other guest were clearly in sync.
True, she actually kept missing his points.
Maybe she is just intentionally pretending.
@@jayakrushnasahoo4403 no they are actually very stupid people.
Oh Yes very very very hard time not to understand but to to accept the new reality, and by disagreeing to samir's point on Chinese investments in their country and media ads she proves that how Europe can be ignorant of and hypocrite to other countries especially global south "period"😂
Missing critical thinking 😂
That’s called respectfully “insulting” for Europe. 😂😂
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Sameer gave a 100% fact check straight forward, crystal clear. It was needed among all the diplomatic mumbos and jumbos.
He comfortably glossed over lack of work ethnics and chalta-hai attitude of Indians.
One Samir Saran is enough to take on Europe! Man he laid it out and with charm too! Jai Hind Sir!
Bravo Samir.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 " Take on " Europe!
Indians spend a lot of time talking and debating and achieve nothing . Every year you can see them debate on the same issue of pollution in India , every year i watch their debate on NDTV or India today and eyery year you can see them fighting and blaming each other but they never managed to make any improvement on the pollution problem.
Take on Europe ? Bends over if getting a chance to go to Europe 😂
He is good enough to fool Indians for the next decades with his shallow rhetoric but not good enough to fool the Westerners, nor even good enough to fool a person from the Global South with little geopolitics knowledge. As a proverb once said, rippling water is a sign that it's shallow.
Indians are more geopolitically aware than rest of the people around the world.
It clearly shows that there is a difference in intellect.
In India, people know how to seek for opportunity and capitalize on it.
That's very right my friend !!!
yes my friend
True but we Indians lack self-awareness which is a problem of many Indians. we treat worse to our own than outsiders. Some good and intellects migrate only because India is chaotic place and too much competition for little rewards. Indian society is a double edge sword. Friendly to outsiders, little friendly to our own only because we are poor and we know everyone needs a helping hand that's beauty of one edge and other edge is lack basic ethics that makes place hell to live in. Cleanliness, public etiquettes, sanity and other normal things.
Indians believe they know everything with it's gdp per capital of 3kusd and can't clean their streets.
Already seen it. Can't wait so long when Mr. Samir is in panel...
Samir ji was lit...😂🔥🔥
Kudos to Dr. Samir Saran! One would be hard pressed to find a better person than him to articulate Bharat's position on geo-political issues in international platforms.
That Indian man has a fire in his heart.
He is having breakfast, lunch and dinner at the same time 😎
I have seen that interview samir saran was on fire 🔥
Which one brother ..
Bheek mang raha hai laga opening remarks sun kar
Typical indian call center scammer spotted 😂
@@RamakrishnamurthyYeleswarapu unpadh logo ko wohi lagega ki English pe chilla kyu raha hai XD
He has not shout louder enough that the world should now pivot to India instead of China, not knowing that China is in possession of the full overall fundamental supply chain which the world relies upon!
The moderator exhibits the arrogance and ignorance that has afflicted EU.
More ignorance than arrogance, as somehow she appears to be semi-clueless.
Exactly...well said.
Also she reflects the bias and entitlement
I felt that was deliberate act of inducing Samir to talk more. She is good.
She wasn't arrogant at all mate
Europe don't know good about their system change than Sameer giving them a mirror to see the change.
And they aren't very humble or honest about it! You can see that in their responses, body language, diplomatic language & actions, use of International body to defame India & others, dubious index & ranking reports etc...
"We are in competition with our friends than our rivals" - Benedikt Franke, well said.
Samir rocks!!! Europe doesn’t know where to go and how to go!!! They decide everything on historical baggages and fixed mindsets.
@@Newshunter. so true. The whole world has changed but EU seems to be in some bubble
Ladies and gentlemen here is ur successor of Mr Jaishankar😂😂
💯💪
Indeed
Still the Europeans are not interested, that's what I conclude from this video. Either they don't understand or they can't comprehend. Kudos to Samir for trying
Thanks because, europe has not started speaking unfiltered like Samir.
Europeans are not interest because this kind of talk provide no benefit to them except telling them when and how they're wrong.
@@ASMRoomphfactor it's not by choice. 😅. You can't speak like that because you don't have leverage over anything.
Samir never disappoints - crisp, clear, concise. The moderator was there to comply with "gender equality", otherwise how can you explain her "light-weightedness" against the always brilliant Samir.
That is an interesting point and perhaps has some validity but I actually saw it from a different angle. I saw it from the angle that he is a man & he knows he's talking to a woman and culturally comes from a country that allows him as a man to talk over a woman and put her in her place and to prevail by the strength of his voice and the size of his body. This is NOT to say in the home that the man rules in India because in the home the wife rules, the woman rules, and it is matriarchal in that sense absolutely and unconditionally which is why they have very strong women. So I would say to this person --nnbc 8000-- put that in your pipe & smoke it😊
I LOVED the way Sameer gave the lectures.. we do not hesitate to speak out to the West no longer...that's why our Image is changing to the world...I might be an NRI but my heart and soul are in India..
Jai hind
@@stevenlai1199 Jai Hind
He is fire on stage.
Sir is just Uncensored version of Dr. S. Jaishankar
My god.. what an orator saran is..
And Rahul loves people who propagate anti india agenda work against the national intrest
@@AMPA33💀💀
@@AMPA33yes modi should appoint muslim woman .as they know only one thing that is deliver😪
@@AMPA33 Not deliver? What do you want? Besides the islamic State? Or the Western puppet, gandi family?
what an opening comment by Mr Saran. As a european, I so agree to his opinion.
The lady is already in the Chinese pocket stubbornly supporting China😂
There are many useful idiots who are doing it completely for free 🤷♂️
Any smart person who isn’t corrupt supports China. If they want “money” it pays more to support the west
that is a good thing
@@karenhearthart1491you were correctly named Karen 😂
Being a realistic and offering the truth is not in the pocket of China. India does not have the infrastructure nor the technological talent to offer the US+EU compared to China.
When I see chaps like Saran and see how well informed articulate intellectually honest they are I am left with no doubt that West has to give more space to Indians in running world affairs
No one is asking the west for permission to give space to indians..People of world's oldestand greatest civilisation BHARAT make their own space...don't worry..wait for few more decades...and west will be begging bharat for space.
@@BharatXtreme What Bharat? I am a Bharatiya and we have no TOILETS. People are still using ✌🏽holy river
🌊 Ganga✌🏽for toilet.
Have you ever travelled to Europe or western countries. Our roads are filled with dust and waste. What makes ya eligible to talk to a westerners? LMAO.
@@SoorajSuseelan10001 i am a bharatiya. You say we have no toilets. thats absolutely absurd.. india has most toilets on earth ..the quality of toilets in the rural india and public toilets is not up to the modern level... but every one in india has acess to toilet..If out of 1.4 billion + people, some jokers choose not to use it then thats their personal choice... Most people don't pollute maa ganga.. they used to in congressi era when we didn't had any toilets available..but not anymore..some idiots don't mean everyone is polluting maa ganga or other holy rivers.
@@SoorajSuseelan10001don't come up with fake id..no one can stop indias progress bcz we are inclusive
@@arunk7183 I myself is Indian. My Id is not fake. And what I said was true
Kudos Samir Saran for being precise and bold enough to put the fact in words.
Europe is sleeping in leadership, identity, industrial decline, unindependent, and worse of all a strategic future going forward.
Everything is fine in Europe!
@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl ! Carry on sleeping, dear beloved Europeans.
People watching it again 😊
😂😂 colonial power who looted all indian wealth blaming us for remaining poor
Typical whitey😂 so full of it - snakes will be snakes
EU is not UK. Get your facts right
@@Aerrow62 And UK was able to trade the looted food, fabrics, raw materials at a cheaper, competitive price to the European nations, that increased trade and connectivity across Europe. Simultaneously, other EU nations like Dutch, French and others were doing their part extracting resources, labour and traded across European countries at a cheaper prices, that made average people richer.
This is how it works, when countries get supply of the resources at cheaper price bcs their people did not have to work hard to produce them. The supply in the market increased production in the local economies in Europe.
Before the colonial powers set out, China and Indian territories were the richest in the world. Back then rich meant having enough food and clothes, which they were good at doing. When the colonial power left, they were the poorest civilisations in the world, they missed the industrial revolution, bcz they were busy giving away the raw materials and their people were not educated, bcz they were not even fed properly, due to their foods being taken away. Generalisations after generalisations they had to do farming only to survive and produce food for their masters. They needed more and more sons to carry out farming work. That also increased population, which was born out of necessity.
Western history books never explain how centuries of extraction affected rich civilisations.
But you don't agree how much corruption and illiteracy still exist in your country! Same hand your partner china groww so better than you but you still choosing politician that can help you to give a chance in 1st in queue
@@alex0315truth.
most of people still illiterate bcz of corruption and society
What a clinical and honest discussion... loved it
Saran is simply awesome ..
Great set of comments and observations by Samir saran. We need multiple voices like this in all international forums to effect change in the international order.
Sameer, you are phenomenal!
Samir Saran is a Private Operator , But He is Like the Deputy Foreign Minister of India
Samir Saran 🙌 taking control of the narrative 💪
I love Mr. Saran’s confidence and clarity.
the moderator's obsession over their controlling power
If she was really speaking for a lot of colleagues as she mentioned then that's the real face of EU, ignorance and arrogance towards south.
There is nothing wrong about it!
@@BrunoHeggli-zp3nlYou're no one to decide that.
Clearly, from the host's remark about free trade, Samir's answer at around 20:00 mins is a gem. Germany and EU is either confused or stupid to think that it has free / equal trade with China.
It seems the whole world are stupid except india, they all don't know what they are doing, so funny.
If you bloom, butterflies will come naturally
funny because India restrict EU export even more than China does... xD
he is missing the plot... EU goes to China because it alternative India is worst...
and until India is willing to admit they are more close door than China, they will never change...
and companies will still have to invest in China, because only China is willing to do business.
Samir's response is just purely junk rhetoric if China bans foreign companies we would not have seen BASF invested another 10 billion in China last year, Apple pulling back its production lines from India and signing up with BYD as the new manufacturing partner. EU and Germany is not stupid and certainly not stupid enough to invest more with India.
I've always had a hard time understanding how shameless and integrity-less you have to be after looting another country's wealth to build your own country and then asking them why isn't your country developed.
@@peterseth3296 Stole lands from China? Which toad's poison have you been smoking mappet?
@@peterseth3296nice joke 😂 anything else 😂
@@peterseth3296 It was an Indian kingdom which fought against a Tibetan kingdom. The British won over the Indian kingdom and thus became successors. The Indian government was the successor from the British raj. China captured Tibet in 1950s and then started doing history book tricks.
Nevertheless, how about conduct a referendum in Tibet? I wonder if even the ethnic Han want to be part of CCP project. Arunachal Pradesh was left undeveloped for a long time since it was seen as a region the Chinese might capture any time. However, the people did not want to be part of temple, church breaking communists.
@@peterseth3296 when you say Tibet Arunachal Pradesh as a whole was never a part of the Tibetan kingdom, you could argue that only the Tawang district and some part of West Kameng district paid tax to the the lhasa sect. But you see both of those areas are maybe only 10% of Arunachal Pradesh. I belong to Tani tribe which is non Tibetan,non Buddhist (we follow either Donyi polo, Christian, Hinduism) . My ancestors have never paid any kind of tax or even know about Tibet, they used to only hear of trade with them for metals and ornaments or food maybe that too in very minor areas. The Tibetan tribes are minority in Arunachal Pradesh, plus the British took these areas when Tibet had declared independence from China. And it also begs the question in the 1962 war when China came to Tawang why didn't they keep it. Arunachal Pradesh was never a part of China and will never be I say this as a Arunachal Pradesh citizen..
@@peterseth3296 1. " Your family never told you Arunachal Pradesh was Southern region of Tibet " No because Arunachal was never a part of Tibet. You are confusing the region of Monpa Monyul kingdom which came under Tibet for the whole of Arunachal. Tawang is merely a district it is like 2% of the total area is the smallest district in Arunachal Pradesh. Majority of the Area were under the indigenous Tani, mishmi, indo Burmese who are not Tibetan or Buddhist.. so no Tawang is not the whole Arunachal Pradesh.
2. Tibet declared independence in 1912 so in the Shimla accord Tibet was not even a part of China to begin with. I get they(china) didn't agree then .
3. We are not of the Monpa descent, our closest kin is the Lhoba ethnic people .
4. Throughout history there has been a lot of invasion and migration, simply calling for a region it political boundary because of ancient history is unrealistic and provocative. Can Mongolia claim the Soth western China as as it's long lost province?
This Indian guy is amazing
Good and easy to talk and promote BUT execution, implementation and delivering real tangible results are totally different and India IS NOT showing that it can do it and deliver the results except more talking about the future. Instead look first at your own policies, internal domestic issues, very poor infrastructures, technology, lack of right skills and education, too many tedious and red tapes and many more.
Asking countries like EU to go make a major bet for India and wait 10 years to see potential results that might not even be there while slowing down or stop the time for even 6 months to 1 year will totally destroy EU's economy. At the same time, China is NOT stopping nor slowing down BUT will instead accelerate even faster. If EU stop working closer with China then the rest of the world will step in and EU's economy and prospect will be gone by then. Time waits for no one especially more so in today's highly competitive business environment.
and China is moving at lightning speed waiting for no one.
@@JCSY1oh no the strategic expert is here . Go and join them on stage to make your points …lol
@@Ronnie1621 India should invest massively in wine production, they've more sour grapes than rest of the world combined.
@@Ronnie1621 😂😂😂
@@Ronnie1621he is just hardworking ccp bot..ignore him
25:19 sums up EU perfectly...its only growth that they need..only Growth🤑
- Imperial people obviously won't join other wars, but imperial labours too won't work extra hours to assist with needed military supply. EU is mercantilist...they had wars with fellow neighbours just to control Trade and Policy...They even formed NATO not for security but for stable govt that can work for trade🤑
Loved this talk!! Certainly, anchor was not doing her job instead trying to be a third panelist putting her own perceptions forward.
Wow what an explosive comments by Samir Saran. Truly enjoyed it.
Oh man...Samir is just killed it. Great views and claps from audience says it all.
India has arrived 👍
Bharat Mata Ki Jai 🇮🇳
Don't supply the Tanker engine but Germany wants free trade 😂😂😂
Sameer, you articulated everything so well. BTW: That was a beautifully understated presenter 😊
About one year ago a prominent media house in India made a video report on the defense infrastructure buildup along the India China border. They used a drone to film the videos. At one point you could clearly see the dji markings on the drone. ZPMC cranes which can be found in every major Indian port is another example.
We need to look beyond polished English for real substance.
Shashi tharoor got competition in English speed😂😂
So you are one of those who still think, speaking English fast equals good English?
The Indian wpm ( words per minute) rate for all native languages is way higher than the UK. US. Nz. Au or Canada wpm. Forget the accent or pronounciation, the moment the Indian ( verbal) rocket is heard in their ear's, they know you are a Indian. And you want more speed?
Bdw. Sashi T and S jayshanker speak slow, very slow, so that each word they say is heard and understood.
@@adhirbose9910 na re pagale na🥺🥺
HINDI HAI HUM HIND HAMARA WATAN🇮🇳🇮🇳 EKMKB
@@abjt_s shut up Hindi invader
Gave the Germans a taste of their own medicine.
The anchor is unfortunately a complete misfit to this excellent elite panel....whereas the audience is in complete sync
Actually no. She is naive enough to ask important question which created such wonderful conversation.
I am supremo my position of head can't be challenged and I am ordering you that democracy is best and everyone must follow it
Unfiltered Jaishankar
😂😂👍
Samir Sir, you are better than AI, too many facts, too much logic, impossible for anyone in this world to debate with you ✌🏻✌🏻✌🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻💐💐💐
Samir is promoting India, which in itself is a good thing. Critical thinking is an absolute
must when investing in India. The erratic Government regulations on Financial infringement
can cripple any company once FDI is concluded. Investing in India is digging your own grave.
Your chances are better if it's Vietnam, Indonesia Thailand, Malaysia or even Philippines. 🙏🙏
Open your eyes..oh sorry my bad coz u can't 😂
European conservatism turning a blind eye to our growth, rise of large indian democracy is certainly good of global open & democratic societies & sustenance of world peace !
Excellent Sameer. This interview should be broadcast all over world particularly in global south
The lady should know, that because of inclination towards China, Germany stopped the supply of critical component to India 's Tanks.
Samir ji is correct in saying that Europe continues it’s fascination to invest in China inspite of Chinese expansionism by way of building military bases all over the world, it’s threats in South China Sea, it’s technology game plans , it’s imposing will on on Hong Kong, Taiwan, it’s browbeating of Australia, US & lot more countries,
Samir is obsessively jealous of China and is begging for european investments.
Wtf PURE BULLSHIT @@roberts2697
"Chinese expansionism"?, with one military base in Djibouti as opposed to 800 US bases around the globe, keep coping !.
And what's india doing in kashmir killing Muslim and around india aswell ?
@@arshadmohammed1127chup kr k2a😂
I am an Indian, i loved both samir and benadikt's views on the topics being discussed, simply eye opening
Samir Saran = S. Jaishankar 2.0
Samir is unbelievable. He is knowledgeable and has an answer for every question.
Always a pleasure, this one's a treat ! Seemed rather too accurate for global comfort ....
Samir Saran is like Why should Jaishankar have all the fun 😛
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Very impressive points put forward by Dr Samir Saran 👏
But for the clueless lady, rest of the discussion and Samir's views are perfect and the offers the clear picture of Europe.
Straight to the point talk by #SamirSaran #ORF Wonderful job!
I am an Indian and I know that all these confidence comes from the fact that Europe and America needs us as a pawn to counter The Chinese growth
This confidence came from the election results of 2014 and 2019 but I think there should be no more such confidence after 2024 election results.
@@just_an_observer-k3r Half the country is full of bastards who will collaborate with anyone for short term gains
@@just_an_observer-k3r Hindutva mentality has done more harm than good to India. Nor is this ideology suitable for India nor does it aligns with Europe and global values of democracy and secularism.
@@dreamadventure8220 yeah right we deserve to be beggars and getting loans from richer nations
@@just_an_observer-k3r this was posted 3 weeks ago.
Excellent discussion. Samir calls a spade, a spade and not an entrenching device!
How many times should I watch it.just blossomed my heart
As an Indian, the lady is so calm! Love from India. 🙏
Bro is jaishankar without any diplomatic bars
Unfiltered Jaishankar
@@royprotocol even better ☑️
10:49 "that's gonna be a big discussion table". The audacity with which she spoke these words shows her colonial mindset, because she definitely is not an ignorant. Look at the intentions in her eyes. Wtf.. Why can't there be a big discussion table?
Europe has grow out the mindset that Europe problem the world problem but tha world problem not Europe problem 🤣😂
welcome to india, an exuberant and futuristic nation.
where women get groped and kids get food posoining
she actually got spooked when he said there is no but.
Well said Samir sir
Amazing Indian Guy
What "global order" or "rules based international order" that the EU and US are upholding when these so called US created rules only serve their own benefits and advantages? Why condemned Putin for invading Ukraine, but not Netanyahu's genocides of Palestinians in Gaza. What hypocriscy!!!
you are right
Samir is too good and puts his points very clear on the table.
Wow Samir is really good👍
This man is a genius, this is what Bharat offers to the world.
Excellent, well done Samir Saran. Very logical and forth right.
Ok , i'm an indian and let me be honest. What do we have that critical part for investors to invest in our country. Our country 's politicians are still in delusion that western companies are gonna help them bcuz they have good relationship with western nations. That's not how things work as far as i know. Why do companies come to india when we don't even have basic infrastructure and a proper management. We believe that "chaos is freedom". Every other day , new article publish about how severe is situation in India and it's people. Let's be honest , more than 80% people aren't even living peacefully in india. India's democracy is a total mess and private MNCs don't want this much headache to start their production here. Services are awful from their standards. European companies don't want to leave china bcuz they see profits there and still cheap and skillfull labour. It's been more than 2 decades for china to be a manufacturing hub and that means they have mastered this skill and now , know how things work ... I don't know why but feels like he's begging for investments. Govt of india has no accountability and didn't serve it's people rightly and still not able to unite india in true sense in name of diversity
其实我还是挺同情印度的，印度的政客和特权阶级从来没有真正关心过印度人民的生活和国家未来的前途，他们只是关心自己的自私的利益。以致于印度一直发展总是停滞不前。
love you Samir .......hats off to your courageous to show them the real world.....with real problems....
20:05 samir is fire 🔥
Benedict Franke is understanding and speaking the truth, a rare exception from Europe otherwise limited awareness on geopolitics.
This is painful to listen too, these people are living in a parallel universe.
You live in parallel world
Oh my god, what an intelligent man he is. It's been a great honour for India to have him.
This is class! 🔥
Amazingly engrossing interview!! 👍🏼. Total respect for Samir Saran for his command on geopolitics and global economics!! *#applause*.
Samir is GOAT ❣️
As usual, india just TALKS and the rest delivers😂
What an articulate speaker ! Samir saran ki Jai ho .
G7 P5 is an old concept. U need new permanent representatives in UN security council and India is one of the country who can bring USA, Russia And china on the same table.
USA, Russia and China not on the same table as P5?
Saran makes valid points and backs it with supporting facts. Well done.