Room for two? India, China and the world order | S Jaishankar | Samir Saran
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- Опубліковано 6 січ 2020
- The simultaneous rise of India and China will define the 21st century.
At a book launch event in Delhi, Samir Saran and EAM Subrahmanyam Jaishankar discuss this new moment that will undoubtedly redefine the tenants and principles of the international order.
In their book, Pax Sinica: Implications for the Indian Dawn, Samir Saran and Akhil Deo analyse the key events and policies that have shaped the Asian Century since the elevation of General Secretary Xi Jinping. From the launch of the Asian Infrastructure and Investment Bank to the unveiling of the Belt and Road Initiative, China’s proposition presents a contested model of cooperation that is rearranging regional and sub-regional political alignments. India, amongst others, is responding to these developments to safeguard its own room to maneuver.
#China #SJaishankar #IndiavsChina
His work is much more bold than his image. He is handling the ministry during one of the toughest phases. We need to hear more from people like jaishankar.
Can be a good prime minister
@@GhoststoriesIND our pm is good but let him try to do something.
@@GhoststoriesIND People won't vote for him. He is good at his job. Let him do that. PM main job is public grievance and getting the pulse of the people. Modi is the most popular leader after Indira Gandhi. PM can have many technocrats with him to handle other things. We need to a popular leader who works at grass root level for well functioning democracy.
Thats why he is our foreign minister.
Toughest phase for sure waiting see how things will unfold.
I'm a jew from Israel and I've enjoyed every single moment of this great conversation. what a great mind! and how lucky you speak english so I could understand you.
I wish India luck in the coming years. you have plenty of challenges to leap above yet I'm confident you'll do it. we're all at awe at china and its rise' but that is muddled with suspicion. if India rises to world power I'm sure it'd make everyone happy and calm (even muslims)!
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Thanks for your lovely comment ...greetings from india
Thank you!😁
India should have learnt from Israel in the 70's when it came to dealing with radical Islamic terrorism. India has a long way to go.
Thanks for your wonderful comment on india..
Mr Shankar, you are solving the pending problems in favour of hindutva, one religious belificius ideology, not fact. A religious ideology to suppress others religious background is the Difference between you and China. Chinese resolution is far far better than yours.
He is doing a great job without being in limelight .
*He got a great clarity than any political leader*
Because he is not a politician
@Vidya Sagar Rao Fuck you ignorant moron
@Vidya Sagar Rao semi literate speak gain . First take history lesson than comment .
@Vidya Sagar Rao all your articles will find justice in courts.. Here barking rubbish, if, won't work...
Things don't work in the way you are making here comments
He's a technocrat not a politician
The first time I heard him speak I had thought him to be too mild and gentlemanly but gradually I get to see more facets to his strong character which his job demands. I believe he is the best choice for promoting India abroad in these times. I think the EAM delivers an iron fist covered in kid gloves!
Mr Shankar, you are solving the pending problems in favour of hindutva, one religious belificius ideology, not fact. A religious ideology to suppress others religious background is the Difference between you and China. Chinese resolution is far far better than yours.
@@sahraj1958 Your comment reveals your anti-Hindutva political slant. In the past, we were defensive on many matters and our reactions were timid! Now we have a Government which has the guts to say strongly about our policy and that policy is in favour of our own country's welfare and interest. Where is the religious ideology in our foreign policy? What are you referring to? What is this Chinese resolution you are talking about? Please don't argue without any logic and with political bias! Give the devil his due! Please look at what is happening in the world and how even the greatest super powers' attempts to arm-twist India in the case of Ukraine war has failed! Everybody is talking with India and are seeking various kinds of help! Please open you eyes and see how much India is respected now the world over! Your arguments seem too hollow!
@@sahraj1958 dude stop crying.. I can see your wet pants from north America 😃
@@pmnirmal6052 Clearly the guy is a confirmed anti India troll. Deserves to be ignored.
Yes, I too initially thought that he was too mild mannered. But certainly over time he has proved he is a force to reckon with and of late he has emerged as one of finest foreign ministers that the world has seen.
Great discussion. He said so accurately about how we (India), as a country, look at our problems.
Also, great to see no plastic water bottles on their table.
7:03 He indirectly show Kashmir issue as an example. Great Sir 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
I could give China like answer, “If I can make money out of it, why not”. 😊 brilliant..!
@Vidya Sagar Rao You're the first idiot who explains why you're the one.
If India allows 100% FDI in all sectors (except a handful of National security ones) , India will , within 5 years from that policy change , will Gallop at 12% Growth rate for 2 Decades.
@@DharmicYoddha apt observation on @Vidya Sagar Rao ji who's sagar is not filled with vidya at all :))
@Vidya Sagar Rao again spitting here your agenda...
Same copy paste huh!
@Vidya Sagar Rao i understand why you had to write such a long essay knowing no one would read it. See accept that you're also among the many diseased by liberal zombies. Take care.
Good for India he is our FM .
His father was also a excellent man with clear views .
I like him like Dr Swamy . India needs such leaders with clearing of thought and vision
Great insights . It’s a tough journey to transform India, our democracy is a mockery of value system the kind of politicians we have who exploit the people since the people are always in selfie mode . There is a divide between youth and the previous generation. As a system we failed to give direction to the youth for decades on how a nation gets built and what qualities a citizen should have to participate . Though there is a hope now but it’s a long journey with the road blocks we have . Changing the mindset of people is a huge thing for the government
I can attribute to one single reason : absence of patriotism , a great sense of nationalism must percolate for entire generation to march fast ahead.
Yet politicians and the government are blamed for everything. This is also one of the many reasons that we are not as good as we should be
@@sria8163 If you become a patriot in today's time, then you are called a Modi devotee and an intolerable person mostly by leftshit
yes ,definitely we dont try to take risk and solve the problems ourselves.we want it to be done by someone else.and today's youth r definitely not patriotic and wander with cellphones searching for useless things.they get easily misguided by the caste heads.indeed it's going to be a tough task to unite the youths who dont have a vision.
Bk Lkshy Governments are supposed to develop systems which help the citizens without any intervention of any kind
What has happened over time in India is the interaction of general public with government institutions are fairly less and is way more rigid and requires intervention of every kind (sometimes political or sometimes financial) without which things can’t be done in the current system.
So for everything the majority political class and beaurocracy is to be blamed. If systems are in place people (majority) will fall in line
Great clarity of thought and intent by Mr. Jaishankar! One of the best qualities of Modi is that he picks the right person for the right job.
Yeah, right. He have us Nirmala Tai
The india cabinet is of poor qualitity, the biggest issue is the economy and modi fools are making it much worse, amit shah is a disaster 8 months as home minister and the country is in flames.
@@numanunees2597 amit shah is a disaster ??? lol , for every thing mr jaishanker says india needs to set it's home right , this is what amit shah is doing bringing the factions out on the streets .Now that the problem is out in the sights solutions are being brought in and will in the future. Bodo accord , CAA, NRC , etc whether you like it or not will be a reality and the man who will be leading it is mr amit shah the iron man of present indian politics , man who uses political power to deal with political issues ...
24:58 Will you be defined by others or will you define yourself?
This "dakoo aa jayega/duniya kya sochega" kind of mindset was the first thing that needed to be gone before taking any soverign decision in our national interest. Those days are over thankfully!
Few month back I watched Jaishankar Q&A during his newyork trip.I am big fan of our EAM.He is so clear headed.However interviwer was like log kya kahenge type .What other country tell about us.Great country fix their problems for their national intrest .They dont care who will speak what.Again great to hear EAM.Hopefully he will also speak more in universities so that younger generation also have some sort of clear headed vision.
S Jaishankar will make India Permanent UNSC Member before 2025. Jai Hind !!
If you do not acknowledge the problem then you can never solve it. Indians need to
Indians never had such ego, jealousy, or greed over making his country superpower or to dominate the world, rather than "Leverage"! They are not even competing or comparing with China or India, rather than trying themselves excel "better than yesterday"! You can easily sense such Aspiration from the way Dr Jaishankar was answering each questions.
-Commentator from Singapore-
It's the stupid media that spun up this story of India super power blah blah. Most average Indians don't care. We wouldn't even be hostile to China if not for the border conflict. I don't know why I see comments everywhere from Chinese trolls. Either they are insecure about their progress and feel the need to take it out on Indians or they are being paid well by the CCP. I can only hope it's the latter because it would be too pathetic otherwise.
My goodness, what a clearity He has. Kudos to Jaishankar 👏👏 Exteremly intelligent mind.
Pragmatic External Minister first time in India
Whom are you comparing to come this conclusion?
@@bonaku20 Whom we've as a Minister of External Affairs
But Sushma swaraj had given MEA a human touch
@@anilb4768 Undeniable fact
Sushma swaraj should not be compared to any MEA she was a different level.
Every time I listen to Dr Jaishankar, I am in awe of his knowledge on the foreign policy, world politics and his ability to articulate thoughts with absolute clarity! We are fortunate to have him as a Minister of External Affairs!
This is the discussion that should get viral and that we should be obsessed with, Not this bullshit CAB or NRC. we are doomed till we get our priorities right, All these secular champions or extreme right should ask their conscience wtf they are doing. disgustingly disheartening!!
India will never be a superpower, we are too busy fighting with each other. Hindu-Muslim Hindu Muslim hi karte rahengee...
Tanmoy Samanta it depends upon how many your kind of views are out there and how many exactly opposite to your view and positive...
He is a Great Proactive Thinker.
-Commentator from Singapore-
I have been an admirer of Dr. Jai Shankar for long time but he won my heart over when said " when a ball is bowled at my rib cage, I will not duck, I will hook it" that is his response to terror acts by rogue state across the border.. what a way to put it. Absolutely brilliant and spot-on... He is the best choice for the External Ministry and Modi did a wonderful job of spotting him
May God give Jaishankar health and happiness. He is truly a statesman. Very balanced talker and yet assertive. A true diplomat. He is the contribution of India to the world.
JAI HSANKAR WHAT A BRAIN GOOD SUPRE SIMPLE HUMAN BEING HUGE RESPECT...
Their conversation covers IR part of Political science optional..... Great statesmans....
I never get tired to listen to this soft spoken Wiseman .rare gem indeed.congratulation India for having this great personality.
India and China should work together & march ahead. Forget (IGNORE) USA !!
China doesn't want to. They are an arrogant big bully who wants to fight everyone.
Dr. S Jayasankar “Indian Dawn” on our India’s Foreign Policy is the pride our country. We salute him.
Chinese solve problems quickly where as Indians quick the problems aside and waste their time. Well said When we will change sir. Thank you.
Accumulation of problems , bang on Jaishanker ji 💐.
The problem solving nature of Indians need to be improved upon ,fully agree with u
Make this man speak more in India and about India. He'll leave behind a plethora of wise direction and advice for the generation to come in the future !
Well done sir. It was such a pleasure listening to you. You did some plain speaking. Hope people will realize what was Congress role in keeping India a backward state.
Indians are from a polite civilization. Being agreeable is not bad, but too polite means less confrontation with hard problems. To change that you probably need a dozen Jaishankar or have him teach/replicate. Jaishankar is such an excellent example of what Indian politicians CAN be like! No BS, brave and ready to engage in competition.
He is one of the finest minister in modi government who have clear understanding about each and every issue. We can't have a unresolved issue for year and expected to competet with 🇨🇳........well said by Mr. Jaishankat. 😇
Kindly upload full video.....
"If I see a ball bowled at my ribcage, I won't duck, I will hook" -S.Jayshankar
Most of Chinese leadership were engineers 😂😂😂😂
We're about to enter a phase where every politician is going to be an engineer very soon..
ussr leaders
Better than chai vendors
@@gauravkumawat7962 hmm
@@gauravkumawat7962 at least better, much more better than you
@@user-jx8oj4si3j Chai vendor better than engineer? it's not a kid story about morals XD. It is real life. Only reason Modi won was that his opponents were utterly shit.
Enjoyed the talk. Jai Hind 🧡
Well said I support you sir ji all heartily
Hmm.... brilliant interview. Excellent stuff
It is always a pleasure to hear him .
THE BEST WE EVER HAD ALONG WITH SUSHMA SWARAJ
The very first point Sir raised regarding problem focused functioning system is uncrtitically significant for any sort of policy making or even making an analysis of consequences provided we understand the depth of meaning it holds in a futuristic manner.
Plz upload the rest of the interview ( the Q&A session )
Very insightful, intelligent and professional. Good for your Indians. From Shanghai.
Two very intelligent speakers! It’s almost a relief to listen to a reasonable conversation these days . This was a treat!
Thank you Sir for sharing your views .
He is a great up the cut yet grounded knowledgeable person...
Great insights...and the courage to speak that so tactfully
Jaishankar sir... very impressive. All the very best. How many of us knew this person before he became the External affairs minister? Very good find by Modiji... Instead of giving it to some elderly politician, Modi has chosen a capable person for the job... Excellent decision. This trend should continue in other key portfolios as well.
Well answered, Mr. Jayshankar
Kindly upload full version 😉
Wow. Wise man
25:00 Absolutely spot on.
Every time the host spoke...it felt like farhan akhtars voice!! Always good to hear Mr. Jaishankar.
Thank you Samir, and Shri Jaishankarji, Our psyche is so different from the Chinese, we are a Jugaaroo nation without long term problem solving skills. We create reforms without thinking things through. We often don’t take time to educate the public through debates in the Universities and think tanks for a robust policy with a vision of 30 years hence. Discuss anything and everything. In the meantime apply or implement a policy in a small way at a Block or district level, like a Psycho Social experiment. Some how universities are completely de linked from the Process of developing Real research grounded in Current Psycho-Social, Economic problems. 🙏. Wonderful discussion.
first this indian constitution in its current form will ensure nothing changes. there is simply no accountability, so how will long term problem solving skills be developed ?..we dont have a consensus on what is a problem and what is not given the demographic diversity. every 5 years govt will change, and so will the vision of what is a long term goal and solutions to it.. see muslims in india for instance : they dont see islamic radicalism as a threat to the country and there is no narrative that sticks deep within the masses. what binds india as a nation itself is unclear for many...even the so called name sake hindu intellectuals. simple open shut fact of religious persercution and massacre of nonmuslims in kashmir itself at the hands of jehadi kashmiri muslims is not possible for the govt to acknowledge
crystal clear thoughts sir.
big fan of you sir.
The world has great need of the intellect of Jaishanker, especially India which is carrying so much baggage as the Foreign Minister has subtly mentioned early in the interview. It is this retention of ever increasing problems, put aside which compounds the negativity of not being able to move forwards as well as lost opportunities. Samir has a very fine mind, but his inability to contribute more to the Indian cause, is reflected by his obsession to blame China. And it stems way back to the China/ India border issue. The border issue could’ve been resolved in the late 1950s when Nehru and Chow En Lai were their respective PMs.
There are sufficient evidence from Indian sources which lay blame squarely on the shoulders of Nehru, who was either naive at best, or inadequate to address a very political issue. In being inadequate, to put it graciously, he did immeasurable damage to the India/ China relationship, by misleading the Indian Parliament, and thus the citizens of India, by drawing a line as the border on an unchartered map, and declaring unilaterally that was the border. As Nehru was so popular and loved by the Indians in the euphoria of their independence, any error by him , would not be countenance by the Indians. As the whole region is extremely desolate with very spare population, and without the guidance of properly surveyed markers, many skirmishes are bound to result from miscomprehension.
This eventuated in 1962 to a very large military conflict which was a pity, more so tragic than India coming off severely beaten, but impinged into the psyche, an enormous degree of hate from the shame of such a defeat.
So since 1962, the border is usually referred to as the Line of Control, which at best are some arbitrary landmarks and presence of troops.
The Indian PM, Modi when asked about the border issue has consistently answered that there were no Chinese troops on Indian soil and in this interview, unlike just about every Indian, the FM of India made no reference to China as infringing into his country, while alluding to the border issue. If one listens to every other Indian politician, the emotion that is aroused is negative when it comes to China.
The only way to resolve the dispute is to go into negotiation, but the mood of India, hasn’t as yet overcome its innate sense of being right. Nehru has left a very negative legacy, is the most appropriate comment. It is a most daunting task for any Indian leader to suggest anything other than the perception of the Indian public. I think both Modi and Jaishanker have little confidence that they are brave enough to be up to the task.
This does not diminish the value of Jaishanker’s understanding of the peculiarities of the Chinese to help towards better relationship with China. A take away from him is also that in his opinion, the Chinese are pragmatic and keenly confronts the challenges at hand and Indians, tend to procrastinate and ride on emotions, more readily.
excellent question s
great content!!
At 7.min he has rightly analysed our mentality of INDIAN not as a nation but as a family ,n individual also.We have to change this.Great admirer of Sir S Jaishanker
We have to recall the experience of Late.Jawaharlal Nehru First Prime minister of our country and chuyalan lai Late P.M. of China. I am confident that Mr. Jai Shankar, Hon.Minister has excellent experience in handling the foreign affairs as a dynamic IFS officer will handle the situation carefully and get best results to us. He presented the key issues with dedication.
Great discussion to listen to. Intelligent questions put forth to a more than intellectual Jaishankar Sir. S. JAISHANKAR is a jewel for ias aspirants.
A learned man !
How Many IFS aspirants watch this interview... 😇😇😇Salute to you sir...
Stimulating. Enjoyed it
Brilliant sir
Great finish to the interview if i can do business and make money in this materialistic world why not.
At 21:14 Saran finishes asking the question - those assessing India would say that "India's a soft state, the sustained political muscularity to defend core interests is missing". This was right after the Foreign Minister rightly criticised the Manmohan Singh govt. and Shivshankar Menon as his NSA for Sharm Al Shaikh and Havana. Shivshankar than smiles a cryptic smile, brushes his hair and goes into 'look'....
What is Saran suggesting? That we keep tensions high with Pak all the time? That we attack them more? What is he referring to?
What was Saran's comment really about? Can anyone decode that?
good analytical comment sir. I can clearly understand the biasedness you are pointing to. And being a 12th grader, when I go through the think tank's editorial, the division of bias is sharply visible, for instance more critical opinions are published in sites/newspapers which are known for taking partially critical side while other articles remain at their best place.
Just don't drag our Masters in the conversation..
Otherwise, we will bite back...
Man is brilliant and right on d button whT an asset to d Indian nation and to d pm modi team god bless him jai hind. Jai pm modi ji
Dr.Subramanian Jaishankar is the best person to be the EAM with 4 decades of diplomatic experience.
In a way he's suggesting that we're turning like China slowly under Modi. But I totally support that because you cannot have a thriving society by having total freedom, even the western countries had a lot of control over it's people before they became the "heaven states" of the world.
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So much wisdom
Congratulations to Mr. Akhil Deo.
Chinese narrative is shaped by its civilizational values. I have been in China since 1987. China is not a Communist country. China elder leader the late Deng Xiaoping described it as 'socialism with Chinese characteristics' and quickly thereafter added to it his popular statement 'it doesn't matter if the cat is black or white as it catches the mice ' which immensely impacted China's grand narrative. China rewards good performers and punishes those engaged hurting the 'motherland.' In contrast, the heart of India's justice system seems to be suffering from perpetual cardiac arrests dealing with corruption cases...The average Indian feels if it took 150 years for Ayodhya Case traveling through the constricted arteries of judicial process, enormous patience can also be afforded for the basketful of corruption cases involving senior politicians....One Chinese Official once painted a descriptive picture of corruption as the hidden, uncalculated costs if doing business and it has disastrous effect on the Economy. India's corruption is driving a parallel clandestine underground economy that continues to amass huge stash of blackmoney.
My simple question .. leaving in China for so many years .. do You keeping in hand on heart .. think communist in power does not do corruption? They don’t earn money from wrong means ? High flying life style is purely on money they earn?
Wow....
Both of you are excellent in your field 👍
Jaishankar as usual u r always best and confident
👍👍👍😘😘 awesome
The Congress, with support from Vote Banks, had
dangerously left existential issues UNRESOLVED.
The party had done so much damage, it could never be undone
even in couple of centuries. It's now highly probable
Hindus will be a minority in their homeland & India
will be divided into more fragments
Thank you sir
Amazing clarity and understanding on China by Jaishankar. Hats off.
Nice discussion
Plz post full video
One of the underrated men from indian diplomats
It's always a pleasure to listening to you Sir.....🙏🙏🙏🙏🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
does anyone have full video of this ? Q/A section from audience is not in this one
Brilliant mind
EAM sir you are fantastic 👍🏻
Very said our best FM. Indian Military Veterans
India n China are great friends in the past. And can be so if they can find a middle ground.
super
Great personality
The anchor's voice sounds a bit like Farhan Akhtar
Common sir where is the duffer and this brilliant mind
You're listening too much of him
Greetings;
Mr.Jaishankar should be groomed to be the next PM ..
Smart..professional..competent..experienced.
Elegant.young
knowledgeable..
will lead us well.
Hhaa legasi of problem not solved...well said....u deserve praise worthy pls solve all the problem with strong leaders....
Yes solve age old problems and move forward...sick of all the old problem-keeping mentality in the name of Secularism and democracy...we need Modi-Shah-Jaishanka-Swamy... for next 10 years...
You're funny.. aunty ji.
@@rishabhpartap and the grandpa had the itch to mention that :/
Mr. Minister
one thing we must understand
A south Indian will think differently on land border problems than the north Indians.
A north Indian will think differently on maritime issues than a south Indian.
An Excellent External Foriegn Minister. He has a Very Gd And simplistic answer for Any Host and viewers to understand what he's to get through.
Well done India , you've got the right ppl at the right positions where they become Even more better at it.
Jai Hind 🇮🇳🙏👍☺️
He indirectly appreciated *PM Modi* ji as a great leader in many ways if you listen or got his points. So, do stay away any congressi chamcha 😂😂😂
Good