Her and 122.000 more like her in Washington. Of the permanent (deep) state with administrative employees in total 19.23 million in the US. That's the official count as of today. Guys let that number sink in!
She was sidelined by the Trump administration due to her role in shaping U.S. policy towards Ukraine during the Obama administration, particularly during the 2014 Ukraine crisis and the EuroMaidan protests. So I gottta give Trump credit for that atleast.
Most Americans will never see this or anything like this because seeing this would expose them to the reality that our world is not what we are lead to believe it is. Demand better .
@@TacticalMayo , Its because people are brainwashed , brainwashed to sacrifice and give their lives to someone , That they doesn't even know that is manipulating them . Brainwashed people are hopeless .
A long-time follower of Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer here. I've leaned more and more to Sachs as my exposure and research on geopolitics and economics expanded. Mearsheimer's "containing China" stand became increasingly aligned with the disastrous US government's policy since Obama's "pivot to China" days. I kept asking and arguing, WHY? China worked super hard to get to where they are now. They elevated over 800 MILLION of their citizens out of poverty just in the past few decades. They're one of the oldest civilizations, they're smart, they're innovative, they work hard, they're entrepreneurial, they're pragmatic, they hate wars, they don't intervene with other countries' politics, they don't bomb, nuke, regime-change other countries, they have only one military base outside China (to primarily protect their interest in a critical trade route in the international waters), they've advanced their educationl system, infrastructure and status of their society, etc., etc. What business does the US have in containing this unprecedented endeavor to a betterment of a billion and half lives? China has the absolute right to become a powerful nation because they damn well worked hard for it and achieved it peacefully (unlike the West that prospered by of course hardwork but also by genocide of natives, slavery, colonization, and unimaginable brutality). I have therefore lost interest lately on Mearsheimer's "realism" of choosing one nuclear war over the other. Sachs is always on point, reasonable, respectful to the sovereignty of the Global South countries and their leaders he works with, and truly passionate about peace and development. I'm with Sachs!
@@mnet1514 I totally agree with you. If John Meirsheimer was merely explaining the bridal cold realities of US policies, he's a great scholar. But when it is also his agenda to contain China, I disagree and don't think that's a good holistic man
My respect for Prof. Sachs has grown tremendously after hearing him in “all in summit” talk. He stood firm for his belief under a lot of pressure in that talk, he talks with a real compassion for humanity, and while he advocates for peace, he is not naive in his thinking. And the man understands China deeply. The world needs more men like him.
I believe he is very much naive. I heard him that “someone” should get a passport. He might have worked in USSR and Asia, but he has no idea what is going on on the ground in central/eastern europe an Ukraine. He advocates to understand both sides, why doesn’t he represent both sides opinions?
you are so right, the John guy rationalizes a war between two nuclear powers, it is how human get extinct, we are smarter than people like him. John Mearsheimer is evil, he represents who we are not. We are better than him.
@@Aston1sh Why should he? He's not asking to be a negotiator representing both sides. He has a point of view that I consider to be commendable. He explains and justifies his point of view clearly and with passion.
@@myla6135 Hi Myla, I might be mistaken, but I remember his point of view claiming we should look at both of the sides opinion. Correct me if im wrong, and Inwill watch it again.
@@Aston1sh I missed that bit. I did hear him say something like that about China. That we should not just look at it from the US pov but also from China's and understand why China reacts to US belligerency. I don't recall any point where he said look at both points of view and equate them. After all the US is always the aggressor in my book and deserves to be treated as such. I personally wish the US would go and take a running jump and stop meddling so much around the world creating mayhem. Utterly fed up with their ridiculous teenage behaviour ...... which goes hand in hand with their teenage culture and history. By comparison China is far more mature as is fitting for a country with their long history and deep culture.
Excellent Panel. My deep respect for Jeffry Sachs to have courage to speak for the Palestinians. He will be remembered as a legend provided this world survives another hundred years.
@@AplusStrategy Before October 7, 700,000 settlers were already kicking people out and abusing many others in the west bank where Hamas had no influence. Also, The Israeli government gave power to Hamas as an excuse to take the west bank. Their experiments blew up on them. People like you will learn the hard way I guess.
@@AplusStrategyno, he’d need another 2 hours to speak on the people robbed of their dignities, lives and homes for the past 75 years. They attacked the entity of israel. No one whos not in the west is surprised oct 7th happened lol
That we just had two presidential debates where none of the ideas were discussed for the American public to take to heart, yet a group of interesting techies have rolled up their sleeves and tried to take on the most critical topic for America, our allies, and the rest of the world. --proof of John’s take on the two political parties, and the fundamental importance of our freedom of speech, that allows the hashing out of consequential ideas.
@@MD-gw9kj If the world has no China, the US politics is extremely dull and mundane. The MIC will have no business and politics becomes non-profitable.
So much integrity combining informed competent fact based debate . If you wonder why America is such a mess it’s because men like this are shunned by the media.
Currently visiting China.... they are ahead of us in so many ways.... the infrastructure is amazing... imagine if we invested in ourselves instead of endless foreign wars..
@@1Matik_ ok, so i take it you are comparing apples to apples , like the 2 or 3 most developed chinese cities compared to the 2 or 3 most developed american cities
What I don’t get is that this is their country too. Why not have a beautiful environment. What is the benefit of all these wars? If you want to say that it comes back to the American people through capital gains in the economy, it doesn’t. It just makes us feel terrible for having no power when our country wages campaigns of wars across the world.
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealnameForget Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen. There are dozens of cities nobody in the west has ever heard of that have way better infrastructure than NYC or SF.
Good talk, but too theoretical in my opinion. China is already a regional hegemon. It's already roaming freely in all of Asia and Latin America, and roaming towards Europe.
@@zhenyuxia7665 this is a slight difference, China roaming freely is not forced, it is welcomed and accepted by most of the country in this region. The country that is creating chaos is ignoring the fact that their claim of the territory are also claimed by several countries. These countries chosed to work and resolved peacefully.
Tuche, BUT what to do with all these CHINA CCP Bots / Agents in comment section?, its getting out of hand they are twisting the story and muddying the waters too much in comments section
Shifting trade from China to India, will just create the same issue, but in a different country! As for dictators, forcing the world to bend to your demands, makes the US the biggest dictators on the planet!!! John is a wise man, but Jeff won this debate hands down! Notice that these two intelligent men, can disagree with each other, and still be friends. It's called diplomacy!!! The US should try it some time!!!
Mearsheimer assume USA should and is capable of stopping the rise of China. He didn't answer this question: what will happen if USA is not capable to stop the rise of China? Triggering a war and drag China into it? Does USA still has the industrial capability to win a WWIII?
Prof Jeff is absolutely right - India will never align with US against China. We don't hate China, don't about the other way around. India doesn't intend to become a super power at least not in the way US or China are or intend to be. We just want to grow to the extent possible. We are not war mongering like the US. We don't see everything with the 'us or not with us' mentality. As long as we have our own government and not a Zelensky like US remote controlled government, we will not side against Russia. We don't love China but we respect China.
Do you agree more with Sachs in his PRESCRIPTIVE statements or his DESCRIPTIVE statements? I'm seeing this a lot in the comments and do not understand the difference you all are making. In terms of the PRESCRIPTIVE, the things the US SHOULD do, I might agree with Sachs more. But in terms of the DESCRIPTIVE, the way the world ACTUALLY IS RIGHT NOW, I have to "agree" with Mearsheimer more. I think you all agree with Sachs in his prescriptive, or his moral statements about the way things should be and the way the US should behave.
@@cyberkant8186 Every person who wants to live in prosperity and peaceful will certainly agree with Prof Jeffrey while John is advocating a sole power center for US which has aggressive and barbaric behavior towards nations not in its control!!! This is a Space Age, not the imperialistic time!
The world will be much better if one like Prof. Sachs run for the US president. But then I doubt Americans would vote for someone full of academic talks. It would be anti-American to buy words of a sensible intellect
@@neilwolff7894 I disagree, though I think he and Mearsheimer are right about being sober to power politics of government administrations. Maybe the US and the West are corrupt and evil, but still less evil than the CCP, seriously. Wake up! I guess we should just let China take Taiwan if they want. Indefensible, doesn’t mean we have to have WWIII like he falsely claim must be the case.
I have lot of respect for Mearsheimer (greatly enjoyed his book "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics" and "The Israel Lobby") but Sachs is correct when it comes to China. They don't have to be our enemies; we're foolishly making them our enemies. The U.S. are the antagonists here. John is essentially describing how things are (as one would expect from a realist of his type), Sachs is trying to save the world by describing how things should be. Some might call his optimism foolish, but I see it as a breath of fresh air that could be the off ramp to avoiding nuclear catastrophe.
@@nicholaselliott2484 Taiwan will eventually want to become part of china becouse if they don’t they will be used by the US as another proxy like Ukraine.
reality...the US is Schizophrenia Anxiety Disorders Disruptive behaviour and dissocial disorders....in our policy abroad and at home! India is well aware that the bigger enemy is the USA. As the USA is trying to contain China... it will do the same when India becomes bigger than the USA.
A great, historical and important conversation!!! Jeffrey Sachs is a hero in his field and the world is blessed to have him! I agree with his points of view. God bless these guys! Thank you!🙏
Jeff i have to say you ve been always spot on .John some times he seems a bit compemize by the system. we need more voices like yours so we can raise 😢our kids in a peacefull world.
I love the two great thinkers. IMHO their great differences root in where they stand. John stands for America, and Jeff stands for world. I am with Jeff.
He is of an older generation and that ideology is fading away into the bin of history with the hopes that all countries can have safe drinking water, enough food to feed it's citizens, heat and electricity and even Internet, hence, peace. Not too much to ask.
A war with China would be a foolish waste of time, money and precious life. Having lived in China from 2005 - 2022, I know just how lovely the Chinese people are. But, they are a very proud people. A people who have survived for thousands of years, bullied, in the past several hundred years, 6 million Chinese brutally murdered by Japan, the opium wars from UK…etc.
Not several hundreds of years. That is exaggeration. Yes, China was invaded, but resilient Chinese people stood their ground and came back rapidly in the last half century!
That's what you are missing here.. The CCP starved 40M to death and they still play on the national narrative of the Century of Humilliation to build and justify their military billigerence.
Exactly! Having lived in Asia (Singapore) Russia and Europe, I totally agree and this applies to Russian folks as well! Leave each other and we can live in peace for once ❤
John believes ALL countries would act like Anglo Saxons if they were in their shoes. I believe China as a civilization and society is fundamentally different and wouldn't be hellbent on meddling with others. China is just inwards focused, no one can change these forces that make it this way
@dunzhen I am probably biased because of my countries location and history. But to me, China seem like expansionist, and Russia is like a protective alliance. I am from Mongolia. But judging from the actions of NATOs in the last decade both Russia and China seem like angels in comparison.
USA became a hegemon due to very distinct and unique historical circumstances. It is highly unlikely that any nation would ever dominate the world the way USA has over the last 150 years or so, especially in an emerging multi-polar world.
@@marcomongke3116 That's fair. I think Anglo Saxon empires really put it into perspective how much worse China could be. I just won't accept hearing this from a Westerner...honestly. Unfortunately everyone lets them get away speaking from some moral highground
@@fffwe3876 he kept his cool despite being surrounded with 5 American zealous Zionist wanting to cling to a past gone era. Sachs was the only one talking about todays reality not spouting US 20th century halcyon days gone by. Russia will win in Europe (Ukraine) Iran will win in Middle East (Israel) China will win in West (US) Welcome to the 21st century (BRICS)
I have to agree with every valid point that Prof. Jeffrey Sachs said. He speaks about the pros and cons of the underlying reality of American foreign policy.
Jeffrey sachs is such a legend! Nobody with his type of extensive experience in foreign policy has the courage to speak the truth about americas intentions abroad the way he does. Just pure straight unadulterated truth! Bravo Jeffrey, bravo!
@@jameshegel1324never mind secretary of state all the congress is the same he should be secretary or president of the United nations and the ICC people like Victoria nulan and the Clinton's and all them warmongering people in the wh should be
I think his background as an economist set up the way he see the world through the money vains that runs largely by rational people and more in a rational direction. John was a soldier he knows the flaws of the chain of command and can extrapolate that on a government state
@@psyberking “height of brilliance and eloquence ”, “formidable J Mearsheimer”, “Bravo”. Do yourself a favor and read your comments out loud, what a phony way to speak. Mearsheimer and Sachs make some valid points about the inherent desire for power of governments, but Sachs is basically a CCP apologist.
Except where he said he has no clue besides Sarkozy not liking Khaddafi why "we" went to war with Lybia ...It was OBVIOUSLY to make the migrant and slave trade locker country which was lybia explode .....So Europe could have it's social system flooded and bankrupted by tsunamis of migrants , to ease of the liberlisation of Europe , and to permit a huge influx of canon fodder ready for the coming war with Russia ......But Sachs is a huge limited hangout and obviously he hasn't been given "clearance" to say that out loud
@@nicholaselliott2484 So please enlighten us. Show us your rational arguments in support of your claims. Engaging in name calling such as "phony", "CCP", "shills" is baboon-speak and a denial of the rational discourse we should be having as human beings.
A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY ! The All In with two GREAT THINKERS. Those 2 guests may be the ONLY chance for the Americans, and the rest of us in the world, to find out what the MSM is forbidden to share. They gave a couple of clear explanations of who/what is hindering any peace initiatives. Thankyou
@@simpleman5541 since power does corrupt, I’d say keep out if politics and fight for freedom of speech. Our Founders knew how Imperialists work and the Constitution puts it in writing.
It's very obvious that all the 5 speakers were trying their hardest to get some anti-China grants (if they aren't on the payroll already). Jeffrey was the only adult up there,
Jeffrey is NOT a peacemaker. He made some good points. But his 2 State solution for Gaza and Israel makes NO sense. He seems to be in the pocket of The UN. I like the fact that he want's peace. But peace at any cost is what led to WW2. The fact that he doesn't know that is very disturbing.
@@58Galtha “ But peace at any cost is what led to WW2. The fact that he doesn't know that is very disturbing. “ Wars at any cost will lead to annihilation of nuclear WW3. Jeffery Sachs is not a person of ‘peace at any cost’, he believed war is only necessary after exhausting all diplomatic efforts, exactly what Russia has done before its SMO in Ukraine.
@@58Galthapeace is not what caused WW2, what a distorted version of history. Are you unfamiliar with Woodrow Wilson’s handling of the Treaty of Versailles? How can you possibly say that the second half of world war 1 was a time of peace?
We are in a paradigm shift from geopolitics to geoeconomics, which China is leading. The way forward to continued prosperity for Americans is to cooperate with China instead of competing. That means shifting ideas about power seeking or being a ruthless hegemon. I agree with Jeffrey Sachs that China is not a threat to the U.S. We are all threatened by nuclear war. Yes, our mindset leads us to this brink. We can change our mindset. It's feasible. And I appreciate Jeffrey Sachs explaining all this.
@@jieli4589I do read Chinese and I listen to great thinker like Prof Zhang Wei Wei....they are NOT ruthless Hegemon and never will be, all they want is moderate prosperity to its 1.4 billion citizens and to spread the wealth to the rest of the world, esp to poorer nations. Stop lying and fabricating stories.
Some of the comments here shows how much folks don’t know about J. Mearsheimer. You can check his second interview with Piers Morgan where he, at length, discussed the implications of Nuclear deterrent. He also never said nuclear war is inevitable. On exceptionalism, he has an entire book on liberal delusions and American foreign policy. You can check his 3 part Yale series on this. So please people, read and watch a bit before commenting
Thank you Professor Sachs for being patient, talking in the face of so much headwinds of ignorance. America will always be lost in ignorance if platforms such as this don’t take understanding the world more seriously. Mouthing ignorance and factually incorrect opinions is dangerous. And irresponsible for the peace of the world
THe full quote is more interesting: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority."
Jeffrey Sacks - BRAVO! My day is only meaningful if I have a chance to listen to Jeffery. Clear, reflecting realty, logical, rational, genius professor and, unfortunately, so naive. But he now submuts that he was naive in the past. I wish more people in the world listen to his opinion. He desperately tries to save the world, but not too many people really get that he is damn right about nuclear thread. The nukes really can ruin your day! Wake up, folks!
I agree with Prof. Sachs, the world doesn't have to be a sea of sharks. This is what BRICS is doing, uniting great powers to trade and cooperate, not to fight wars. I hope one day the US and Europe join this peaceful block.
I am awe struck at this panel. I've never seen a more sincere and respectful discussion among intelectuals as John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs. I've been a huge fan of the two and also wondered when the two'd be seen together. Their foreign policy really resonates closely with my believes on how the US should handle global conflict. Kudos to All-in Podcast for getting these two together.
Professors Sachs and Mearsheimer demonstrate true intellectual greatness. How to learn from each other, how to agree to disagree, how to respect each other, how to be friends. Amazing chemistry. An example for everybody. It is a privilege to watch their interaction and listen to them speak.
One major misperception propagated here, that Jeffery has addressed before but did not rebut with here: The US has in reality shown no intent (although they claim otherwise) to spread democracy. The US has disassembled, subverted and Couped more democracies as compared to the Dictators they have removed. Yet the US Vehemently supports Monarchies such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia. The US had for instance also overturned the Iranian democracy (left leaning) in 1953 and caused the Taliban to come to power in Afghanistan by sporting the Mujahideen in the 1980's and 1990's. That is in spite of the Afghanistan having a Secular (left leaning) democracy in the 1970's.
The United States of Avarice just as well created the Mujs, starting in mid-1979 (by Zbig Brzezinskis' own admission, or rather bragging about it back in the late 20th century), at least half a year BEFORE the USSR intervention in Afghanistan (on request from the then legitimate Afgani government). Operation Cyclone iirc.
@@calicocat8213 Indeed. There is a mountain of such evidence. There hubris makes them boasts about these things. They even made a movie about it in 2007: Charlie Wilson's War. It stared Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts.
@@macrosense Indeed. Like saying that supporting Ukraine is about democracy. That is in spite of Ukraine banning most of the opposition parties and Zelensky canceling the 2024 elections, because he had no chance of a legitimate reelection. Zelensky's electoral mandate expired in May 2024...but it's still a "Democracy"
Professor Sachs is the most intelligent, rational, logical, sane person I have heard talking about American foreign policy. If only our leaders would listen to him.
Jeffrey Sachs was recently on Tucker Carlson Podcast. And we had over near 2.5 hours of All Jeffrey Sachs on that podcast. One cannot help but be mesmerized by all that Jeffrey Sachs has to say. This All-In Podcast was NO where near long enough, for we had TWO great minds talking here.
These are 2 of my favorite people to listen to. A wealth of knowledge and experience and HONESTY that you probably won't get anywhere else. An immense treasure of factual truths and in depth knowledge that is incomparable
average persons prosperity is based on agressive policy. Thats why average person in the US is way more prospective than those of in Africa, Middle East an etc.
Jeffrey Sachs is the best, he speaks with reason and just, a man of integrity and intelligence like Jeffrey Sachs is one in a million, a courageous man who advocate for peace for the entire world 🌍🙏
This is the most important discussion about geopolitics to date, everyone must listen! Jeff is outstanding! He is the “National Treasure” of the world for “Peace and Prosperity”!
It was a very good panel discussion. I have a few thoughts after listening to it. First, the world's hot conflicts, Ukraine, Taiwan, Gaza, all depend on the behavior of the United States. Although John said that the United States only takes its own interests into consideration and always wants to maintain its hegemony, will this solve the problem? Secondly, the United States is surrounding China in Asia, but says that China is a threat. Let's see in our own eyes, who patrols the Taiwan Strait, the East China Sea, and the South China Sea every day? Are those American waters? Third, is India an ally of the United States. This is the most ridiculous judgment I have ever heard. Going back 30 years, the United States also thought that China was its ally. Fine, if the United States really wants to be the hegemon of the world as John pointed out, then don't talk about security and peace, just prepare for war and destruction.
AS AN AMERICAN BUSINESS MAN WHO HAVE TRAVELLED GLOBALLY AND BEEN TO CHINA MOST AMERICANS HAVE THIS OLD 1970 IMAGE OF CHINA WITH PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES AND DRESSED THE SAME.. AS RAY DALLIO SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY WE ARE FACING A NATION THAT IS OUT COMPETETING AND BEATING US IN SECTOR AFTER SECTOR. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE AMERICAN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLETE MAN TO MAN AGAINST A PEOPLE WE DEEM INFERIOR.MANY SANE AMERICANS WHO LIVED IN CHINA OR HAVE BEEN TO CHINA STAND WITH DR SACHS. THE CHINESE WILL CARE LESS WHAT 336 MILLION AMERICANS THINK. THEY ARE NOT CONSUMED BY ANTI AMERICAN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME. THEY ARE BUSY GETTING RICH TRADING WITH THE WORLD.I THIS INSANE IDEA THAT WORLD BELONGS TO AMERICA IS NOT ONLY DELUSIONAL BUT EXTREMELY NAUSISISTIC AND ECONOMICALLY DANGEROUS.
46:21 'Insane idea the world belongs to America' comes not from American people but from individuals like V. Nuland. Before they were thinking 'the world belongs to communism (USSR), in what the USA had not agreed.
You missed an essential point : China is not considered a white country and the US is the last hope for the whites to stay in power ! and if you think I'm exaggerating just read what American politicians write about these matters .
@@onlyahuman493Yes US is the last and only white majority country that has hegemonic power and all other white majority countries want US to contain China
Jeffrey Sachs is on a different level. While John is intelligent, he's like a chess player who thinks five moves ahead, whereas Jeffrey plans ten moves in advance. Just think about how high school bullies often end up later in life.
What I am so surprised about being a Dutch European, is there really no western European University or broad neutral institution or press body that can invite these American professors to throw their insights on our international political tables over here.. so that we don't have to rely on opinion making UA-cam propaganda.. and can have some subtitles as followers of the American narrative...
It’s 4 am as I lie awake due to jet lag after my long travel abroad and I think I’ve just seen the best 1 hour of explanation on what makes America behave the way it does on the world stage and the two catastrophic wars going on right now! Thanks All-in! You guys just did what the entire world’s MSM failed to do 😊
Exactly. "Understanding" actually means what it says: standing under. Putting oneself in the other side's shoes, forgetting your stereotypes and prejudices, and trying to understand the other side's way of reasoning and MO.
@@chrismai1889 Yes, and civilized people settle conflict without violence. If war broke out then one or both parties failed to be civilized and return to Jungle rule.
Jeez, at 19.15 that guy still asked that question about weakening dictatorships and the right to meddle. The US has put in place dictators for decades (Iran, Chile, Argentina, etc.). Is it not the US that is acting like the dictator of the world? There is a UN SC that has been deliberately mocked, abused rendered useless facing resolution after resolution vetoed by the US, Israel, and their allies - so that they can over rule UN's role and then wage wars, i.e.. Iraq, Syria, Libya.... The US does not abide by any humanitarian law nor Geneva Conventions, nor the ICC nor the ICJ, it signs treaties it does not respect, agreements that they disregard. Listen to what both Professors are explaining.
Exactly! He did not see that was the root of all evil, that we convinced ourselves that we are always the infallible “good guy” that every thing we do is with good intention for the world. Even you watch a few Hollywood movies you know that is a dubious belief.
Plus, Putin and Xi Jinping are not dictators. Was wondering if the questioner is actually part of the deep state propaganda machine. He knows all their talking points. It's particularly laughable that people describe Xi as a dictator. He doesn't make any decisions alone, there are many people in the government of China that have to agree on policy. China is anything but a dictatorship. Then he says that Xi Jingping is self imploding due to containment. Where is he getting this stuff?
Notes for serious listeners: 1. The key differences between Mearsheimer & Sachs are about power vs economics. Economics prefers positive sum games. Power prefers zero sum games. 2. Mearsheimer thinks conflict is inevitable given the regional hegemon that's the US. If you are the biggest baddest bully on the street, you'll be threatened by a challenger and work to contain it. Sachs however, believes this kind of thinking gets us closer to the brink of nuclear war and should be halted.
1. While I like the high level hypothesis that economics is a positive sum game, this is a false way of looking at it. Thus, why there is the idea of "economic warfare". It was not a "positive sum game" to all the Midwest who the billionaire auto owner class decided to outsource all of their labor to other sources of cheap labor. In the 1970's It would have been better to have pushed much more into robotics to manufacture domestically. To be fair its always easy to judge history 50 years later... 2. While I agree with this idea of holding nuclear war as a concern, MAD is still a thing. And given how excessively hostile the CCP has been to the Filipinos over the last 5 years, with numbers of increasing ships, they are pushing hostility all over. Also the CCP is the King of playing the victim when they are ramming and sinking Filipino ships, that are 20 miles off of the coast of the Philippines. That's +500 miles away from China. It sounds like they are pushing into the Malaysian and Indian waters too to attempt to control the pathways of oil too. Also China alone currently produces 50% of all ships in the whole world....
@@eriklondon2946do you know why ccp policy again philiphine and vietnam ( and other asean country) is diff even they got same issues? one calling big gun the other using diplomatic skill.
@@eriklondon2946ask Malaysians, they will let you know China and Malaysians traded peacefully for many many centuries without wars. Otherwise Malaysis's official language would have be Chinese long ago. China's philosophy is completely different than what John preaches here. The Philippines former president led the country having a good relationship with China as well. It's the new president who decides to act as the USA's proxy to provoke China. China is extremely patient with the Philippines. If it were the USA or Russia, the Philippines would have been bombed all over, to say the least. You need to understand different people have different mindset, not all think the same way as the USA.
It's great to see these two gentlemen together. Serious people, exemplary citizens. John Mearsheimer and Professor Sachs are essential to understand what is going on in the world. They speak truth fearlessly. Thank you both.
I too would love for the CCP to have a peaceful policy..... but having watched videos of China using their coast guard in islands 20 miles off of the Philippians, +500 miles away from China attacking, stabbing people, ramming almost sinking Philippian coast guard boats.... because China built a military base on top of the coral reefs inside the Philippians economic zones, but just outside their 20-mile boarder. There was a 60 Minutes episode about this I saw on 9.16.2024. It was just economic, but sadly now it is growing into a military force. Much the same as the US did, after we had our men being taken as slaves and worked to death in the Ottoman Empire in the 1800's. Edit for the literal Chinese Spies below: Yes, I have heard this from 4 different sources. Separately, I have heard this from my Aunt who is Filipino and has family back in the Philippines, as well as I have a childhood best friend who just moved out to the Philippines 3 months ago. The reason I said to watch the 60 minutes episode is because it encapsulates it well, and shows how the Chinese government makes their propaganda against the country they are attacking... in this case the Philippines. For the Chinese Spies, do you really have nothing else to do with your time? Why don't you go worship Xi more and memorize his "Xi Thought"?
China has the right to defend itself, just like any other country. They can and will build a powerful military. Now, how many countries did China invade in the last 100 years vs America, England, Germany, Japan, etc.?
@@eriklondon2946 how and why did the British empire decline? Your thinking is exactly the mindset that will lead the USA into decline like the British empire did.
Professor Jeffry Sacks‘s idea about China is correct. China has been and is a peaceful country, which want to develop its economy. She is not against America‘s or Europe‘s richness. But the Americans and its vassals believe only they, the western countries ,are entitled to be economically rich not China. This kind of greed and selfishness is morally wrong and unacceptable. The world has enough for everybody.
It is also ridiculous for the guys to think that India will be any different. If India achieves same economic miracle as China then they will also be perceived as a threat to the US/West.
@@evilleader1991fully agree. BTW look at how India did with Sikkim, Nepal, and formal government of Bangladesh. It already has very strong control in the region.
if you think the ccp is peaceful then you're absolutely wrong. Just check what's going on in the south china sea where they're doing all kinds of abuse to the Philippines. also china has been waging what they call "unlimited warfare" against the US for many years just read up their book by one of their generals it's amazon lol how can the people be so clueless? It's almost like the media spends all of their time blasting trump and and nobody even knows about these things lol
Jeffrey is an absolute legend! I wish more people in the US would watch talks like this and read his work. Well done All-In boys for inviting such a great intellectual to your show and for allowing such a rich dialogue. I love you guys!
John, Jeffrey, I would love to grab a beer with you both. Classy, smart, rational. You are all what's right in the world. You should be president and vicepresident
Yes he said is not the president which has the power power lied behind the man with the black suit doesn't matter who is the president the president he doesn't have any power here we tried to find out who is the man with the black suit that's what is the question... president means nothing...
MORE MORE MORE: Please have a Mearsheimer-and-Sachs PART 2 ! And make it a two to three hour podcast!! They have important things that MUST be talked about. And This podcast was NOT long enough; it wasn't even an hour long.
What seems to be missed is through most of China's history it WAS a regional hegemon. And it DIDN'T go galavanting around the world trying to remake societies.
Regional power, not hegemon. The tribute system is actually exaggerated by the west. Many times the tribute given by smaller state to China is rewarded with even bigger and valuable gift to the ruler of the smaller state. China for the most part when ruled by settled Han people is quite docile and inward looking (Ming and Song is a good example). But when it was conquered by nomadic people like the manchu and mongols, it became expansionist and also assimilates it ruler's ethnicity. Whoever conquers China becomes Chinese.
@@turtlesoup8134 No. Hegemon. Saying China wasn't a hegemon, is like saying Rome wasn't a hegemon or Persia. No one in the region was a real challenge and they looked to China for legitimization in exchange of tribute. And as you mentioned that wasn't the Chinese that were doing all the foreign ventures, it was the Mongols.
@@Jamfar777 A hegemon means that it can dictate the actions and policy of its neighbor. But in reality, that is not the case for the most part of Chinese history. There was a lot of diplomacy and influencing the neighbors but either it is unwilling or unable to be a true hegemon. The qing dynasty is unquestionably a hegemon, but I am speaking about Chinese civilization as a whole. Song and Ming are weak in terms of military and definitely can't enforce hegemony. Yuan is of course a Hegemon since it is Mongolian but it doesn't last. China for the most part is defending against outside invaders from far smaller nomadic group or nation.
@@turtlesoup8134 "Hegemony is the political, economic, and military predominance of one state over others states, either regional or global." Due to China's size and industry, it was the economic center of gravity for the region. While, periphery nations getting domestic LEGITIMACY from association with the Emperor. That is a hegemon. That's like being the medieval Pope in Western Europe, with the power to acknowledge kings. Combine that with economic power, cultural influence, and the largest regional military.
Wow, it must be the first time when these two are on the same stage. It's fabulous that their opinions can diverge but still co-exist. Contrary to MSM when there are 1000 mouth but speaking the same thing.
I'm amazed that you have these two guys on! I love them! They are the best of America's political intellectuals, and they want the very best for America. Tweedledee and Tweedledum. So true. The AIP is becoming a really important news resource.
They disagree on China, but they are respectful to each other. I agree with Sacks. Mearsheimer is thinking what’s good for America and Sacks what’s good for the world.
What good is it for usa when nuclear wars happen? There are limits to how far you can push thing. What usa is doing is creating the condition that Will make sure, china becoming your enemy. And you want to destroy a country that have hundreds if not thousand of nukes?
I’ve heard Mearsheimer interact on news shows with antagonists. He was calm, patient and professorial; presented facts that could not be disputed. 2 men who should be consulted by our leaders.
Sachs also is thinking what's good for America. No way a neclear war is good for America. Sachs wants US learn to respect another big power who gets nuclear weapons. Mearsheimer just believes nothing will work, let's go to hell together.
Mearsheimer: USA is a ruthless great power. Of course, he wants USA staying in hegemony as a USA citizen. But the cost of USA hegemony is people in the rest of the world suffering struggling for a living while USA leading west live a much better life level than the rest of the world. That’s the truth behind this hegemony. I don’t think people from global south agree with this world order. I think Sacks just means being a local America continent hegemony is okay, USA still leads a good life.
Agreed, 1 hour is far too little time. I have heard them speak hundreds of times individually but this is the first time that I have heard Mearsheimer say that he would wish there was another path that deviates from the clash of great powers.
Watching this incredible debate from a tiny town in China. We are so privileged to hear these two masters exchanging their ideas, disagreeing with each other but keeping it civilized (not like the US presidential debate). That’s what we need! Kudos!
No matter who you vote for, you get Victoria Nuland. Horrifying.
Her and 122.000 more like her in Washington. Of the permanent (deep) state with administrative employees in total 19.23 million in the US. That's the official count as of today. Guys let that number sink in!
Vote for an independent
She was sidelined by the Trump administration due to her role in shaping U.S. policy towards Ukraine during the Obama administration, particularly during the 2014 Ukraine crisis and the EuroMaidan protests. So I gottta give Trump credit for that atleast.
@@LeftWingNationalistWell stated The USState Department is run by Neo Cons !
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Sacks a real one for having these guys on. All of America needs to watch this
Most Americans wouldn't because of Sachs.
@@TacticalMayoyou are a real traitor to the American people
Most Americans will never see this or anything like this because seeing this would expose them to the reality that our world is not what we are lead to believe it is. Demand better .
Sacks is the true American image I had when i was growing up, not these power hungry and war-mongering mandrils in washington
@@TacticalMayo ,
Its because people are brainwashed , brainwashed to sacrifice and give their lives to someone ,
That they doesn't even know that is manipulating them .
Brainwashed people are hopeless .
A long-time follower of Jeffrey Sachs and John Mearsheimer here. I've leaned more and more to Sachs as my exposure and research on geopolitics and economics expanded. Mearsheimer's "containing China" stand became increasingly aligned with the disastrous US government's policy since Obama's "pivot to China" days. I kept asking and arguing, WHY? China worked super hard to get to where they are now. They elevated over 800 MILLION of their citizens out of poverty just in the past few decades. They're one of the oldest civilizations, they're smart, they're innovative, they work hard, they're entrepreneurial, they're pragmatic, they hate wars, they don't intervene with other countries' politics, they don't bomb, nuke, regime-change other countries, they have only one military base outside China (to primarily protect their interest in a critical trade route in the international waters), they've advanced their educationl system, infrastructure and status of their society, etc., etc. What business does the US have in containing this unprecedented endeavor to a betterment of a billion and half lives? China has the absolute right to become a powerful nation because they damn well worked hard for it and achieved it peacefully (unlike the West that prospered by of course hardwork but also by genocide of natives, slavery, colonization, and unimaginable brutality). I have therefore lost interest lately on Mearsheimer's "realism" of choosing one nuclear war over the other. Sachs is always on point, reasonable, respectful to the sovereignty of the Global South countries and their leaders he works with, and truly passionate about peace and development. I'm with Sachs!
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@@mnet1514 I totally agree with you. If John Meirsheimer was merely explaining the bridal cold realities of US policies, he's a great scholar. But when it is also his agenda to contain China, I disagree and don't think that's a good holistic man
A*.
Hallelujah!!!
@@mnet1514 Mearsheimer is expressing the sad reality of American and human desire which is to become and remain dominant
My respect for Prof. Sachs has grown tremendously after hearing him in “all in summit” talk. He stood firm for his belief under a lot of pressure in that talk, he talks with a real compassion for humanity, and while he advocates for peace, he is not naive in his thinking. And the man understands China deeply. The world needs more men like him.
I believe he is very much naive. I heard him that “someone” should get a passport. He might have worked in USSR and Asia, but he has no idea what is going on on the ground in central/eastern europe an Ukraine. He advocates to understand both sides, why doesn’t he represent both sides opinions?
you are so right, the John guy rationalizes a war between two nuclear powers, it is how human get extinct, we are smarter than people like him. John Mearsheimer is evil, he represents who we are not. We are better than him.
@@Aston1sh Why should he? He's not asking to be a negotiator representing both sides. He has a point of view that I consider to be commendable. He explains and justifies his point of view clearly and with passion.
@@myla6135 Hi Myla, I might be mistaken, but I remember his point of view claiming we should look at both of the sides opinion. Correct me if im wrong, and Inwill watch it again.
@@Aston1sh I missed that bit. I did hear him say something like that about China. That we should not just look at it from the US pov but also from China's and understand why China reacts to US belligerency.
I don't recall any point where he said look at both points of view and equate them.
After all the US is always the aggressor in my book and deserves to be treated as such.
I personally wish the US would go and take a running jump and stop meddling so much around the world creating mayhem. Utterly fed up with their ridiculous teenage behaviour ...... which goes hand in hand with their teenage culture and history. By comparison China is far more mature as is fitting for a country with their long history and deep culture.
Excellent Panel. My deep respect for Jeffry Sachs to have courage to speak for the Palestinians. He will be remembered as a legend provided this world survives another hundred years.
Strange that he has already forgotten who attacked Israel on October 7 and took hostages...
Supporting Palestinians is pretty much the popular opinion.
@@AplusStrategy Before October 7, 700,000 settlers were already kicking people out and abusing many others in the west bank where Hamas had no influence. Also, The Israeli government gave power to Hamas as an excuse to take the west bank. Their experiments blew up on them. People like you will learn the hard way I guess.
@@AplusStrategyno, he’d need another 2 hours to speak on the people robbed of their dignities, lives and homes for the past 75 years. They attacked the entity of israel. No one whos not in the west is surprised oct 7th happened lol
@@MegaAshfire Popular? No. It is however, the ''establishment/system'' opinion. Meaning many (voluntary or influenced) will have that opinion.
This is by far the best panel on the summit. Two experts discussing facts, and no nonsense
Agreed. It was amazing
That we just had two presidential debates where none of the ideas were discussed for the American public to take to heart, yet a group of interesting techies have rolled up their sleeves and tried to take on the most critical topic for America, our allies, and the rest of the world. --proof of John’s take on the two political parties, and the fundamental importance of our freedom of speech, that allows the hashing out of consequential ideas.
@@MD-gw9kj If the world has no China, the US politics is extremely dull and mundane. The MIC will have no business and politics becomes non-profitable.
Most preciously, no lies!!
Well, Sachs is certainly discussing facts anyway.
They agree and disagree with so much integrity. Two sensible powerhouse thinkers. Thank you for this!!!
And their disagreement is about substance not insults.
That’s how exchange of opinions should be between civilized intellectuals
Please 🙏 copy
They were probably the smartest presenters/debaters I have ever seen. Both are a class act in and of themselves!
So much integrity combining informed competent fact based debate . If you wonder why America is such a mess it’s because men like this are shunned by the media.
Thank you professor Sachs! Majority of humanity thinks like you!!
Currently visiting China.... they are ahead of us in so many ways.... the infrastructure is amazing... imagine if we invested in ourselves instead of endless foreign wars..
but is that your experience based on 2 or 3 cities or in the country as a whole?
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealnamethat experience in just two or 3 cities is still better than what you’d get in the US.
@@1Matik_ ok, so i take it you are comparing apples to apples , like the 2 or 3 most developed chinese cities compared to the 2 or 3 most developed american cities
What I don’t get is that this is their country too. Why not have a beautiful environment. What is the benefit of all these wars?
If you want to say that it comes back to the American people through capital gains in the economy, it doesn’t. It just makes us feel terrible for having no power when our country wages campaigns of wars across the world.
@@thisisobviouslynotmyrealnameForget Beijing, Shanghai, Shenzhen. There are dozens of cities nobody in the west has ever heard of that have way better infrastructure than NYC or SF.
You guys have stepped up on a totally different level. Well done All-In.
The hosts were shockingly misinformed, but at least they had Sachs on to offer some pushback on their usual nonsense. I give them credit for that.
Good talk, but too theoretical in my opinion. China is already a regional hegemon. It's already roaming freely in all of Asia and Latin America, and roaming towards Europe.
@@zhenyuxia7665 this is a slight difference, China roaming freely is not forced, it is welcomed and accepted by most of the country in this region. The country that is creating chaos is ignoring the fact that their claim of the territory are also claimed by several countries. These countries chosed to work and resolved peacefully.
@@whendays659 F-Sachs CCP shill selling us out for $ we Love John M all the way True Realist and Patriot!
Tuche, BUT what to do with all these CHINA CCP Bots / Agents in comment section?, its getting out of hand they are twisting the story and muddying the waters too much in comments section
Professor Jeffrey Sachs is always excellent and really inspiring to listen to.
Shifting trade from China to India, will just create the same issue, but in a different country! As for dictators, forcing the world to bend to your demands, makes the US the biggest dictators on the planet!!! John is a wise man, but Jeff won this debate hands down! Notice that these two intelligent men, can disagree with each other, and still be friends. It's called diplomacy!!! The US should try it some time!!!
They arrive at the same conclusions using different approaches. Its more of a learning class than a debate
Mearsheimer assume USA should and is capable of stopping the rise of China. He didn't answer this question: what will happen if USA is not capable to stop the rise of China? Triggering a war and drag China into it? Does USA still has the industrial capability to win a WWIII?
I agree much much more with the views of Prof Jeffrey!!!
Prof Jeff is absolutely right - India will never align with US against China. We don't hate China, don't about the other way around.
India doesn't intend to become a super power at least not in the way US or China are or intend to be.
We just want to grow to the extent possible. We are not war mongering like the US. We don't see everything with the 'us or not with us' mentality.
As long as we have our own government and not a Zelensky like US remote controlled government, we will not side against Russia.
We don't love China but we respect China.
same ,although mearsheimer is on many things if not all pretty correct with russia/ukraine and how certain things work on the international stage.
Do you agree more with Sachs in his PRESCRIPTIVE statements or his DESCRIPTIVE statements? I'm seeing this a lot in the comments and do not understand the difference you all are making. In terms of the PRESCRIPTIVE, the things the US SHOULD do, I might agree with Sachs more. But in terms of the DESCRIPTIVE, the way the world ACTUALLY IS RIGHT NOW, I have to "agree" with Mearsheimer more. I think you all agree with Sachs in his prescriptive, or his moral statements about the way things should be and the way the US should behave.
@@cyberkant8186 Every person who wants to live in prosperity and peaceful will certainly agree with Prof Jeffrey while John is advocating a sole power center for US which has aggressive and barbaric behavior towards nations not in its control!!! This is a Space Age, not the imperialistic time!
The world will be much better if there are more people like Prof. Jeffrey Sachs!
We'd all be Communist then
The world will be much better if one like Prof. Sachs run for the US president.
But then I doubt Americans would vote for someone full of academic talks. It would be anti-American to buy words of a sensible intellect
True
@@TacticalMayowhat's wrong with that after all you got screwed by the democratic system because you are not at the top of the food chain.
@@neilwolff7894 I disagree, though I think he and Mearsheimer are right about being sober to power politics of government administrations. Maybe the US and the West are corrupt and evil, but still less evil than the CCP, seriously. Wake up! I guess we should just let China take Taiwan if they want. Indefensible, doesn’t mean we have to have WWIII like he falsely claim must be the case.
I have lot of respect for Mearsheimer (greatly enjoyed his book "The Tragedy of Great Power Politics" and "The Israel Lobby") but Sachs is correct when it comes to China. They don't have to be our enemies; we're foolishly making them our enemies. The U.S. are the antagonists here. John is essentially describing how things are (as one would expect from a realist of his type), Sachs is trying to save the world by describing how things should be. Some might call his optimism foolish, but I see it as a breath of fresh air that could be the off ramp to avoiding nuclear catastrophe.
@@patrickduty7706 would we have a problem with China if they just gave up on their stupid idea of taking back Taiwan. Give me a break.
@@nicholaselliott2484 China needs Taiwan if they want to project power into the Pacific Ocean.
@@nicholaselliott2484you're naive to think US will stop going after China if it stops trying to take back taiwan.
@@nicholaselliott2484中国古代传统文化是以农业为主的所以侵略性很弱，但在上古时代秦朝汉朝侵略性很强很像现在ccp，所以中美对抗不可避免😢，台湾只是中国世界争霸的第一步，这就是事实
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Taiwan will eventually want to become part of china becouse if they don’t they will be used by the US as another proxy like Ukraine.
Jefferey Sachs is an American hero for speaking his mind and sharing his Wisdom.
professor Sachs is also one of the best decent human beings. Couldn’t love him more❤
...BUT John Mearsheimer is the undefeated GOAT of war strategy. His heart is with him but his mind is not on China.
John is realistic, Sachs is nerdy。
@@wangjacob-pq8nl yea china bots have taken over the channel again clearly, they have gotten better with their grammar using ai
@@janemfeng but arrogant, Jeffry thinks what he BELIEVES are more important than what actually IS.
These gentlemen represent what True Americans should be. Good hearted, Educated, Reasonable Human beings.
reality...the US is Schizophrenia Anxiety Disorders Disruptive behaviour and dissocial disorders....in our policy abroad and at home! India is well aware that the bigger enemy is the USA. As the USA is trying to contain China... it will do the same when India becomes bigger than the USA.
Sacks is so on point as always.
not even once
David or Jeffrey?
Particularly when it comes to China.
I respect and admire Prof Sachs for his relentless push for a peace-driven approach. You can feel the passion in all his words, and elsewhere.
He is a very good man
After he Destroyed Russia in the 90s, he is making up for it.
A great, historical and important conversation!!! Jeffrey Sachs is a hero in his field and the world is blessed to have him! I agree with his points of view. God bless these guys! Thank you!🙏
Jeffrey Sachs, you’re a the greatest, wisest mind at all. Thank you for standing up for peace all over the world.🙏
He said a whole lot of nothing. And his whole “strategy” was just weakness/passivity.
That is not a way to sustain power
Jeff i have to say you ve been always spot on .John some times he seems a bit compemize by the system. we need more voices like yours so we can raise 😢our kids in a peacefull world.
I agree with you. Jeffrey Sachs learned from Mearsheimer, but as a student ultimately surpassed him in my opinion in what the USA should do.
He's a traitor
@@robertroest7619We will never take Jeffrey's advice.
I love the two great thinkers. IMHO their great differences root in where they stand. John stands for America, and Jeff stands for world. I am with Jeff.
One is for a world order, and the other is for world disorder with empires clashing all the time.
He is of an older generation and that ideology is fading away into the bin of history with the hopes that all countries can have safe drinking water, enough food to feed it's citizens, heat and electricity and even Internet, hence, peace.
Not too much to ask.
But good America working for peace benefits also world too.
John is for maintaining power for a handful of American Oligarchs, Jeffery is for is for the survival and betterment of humanity and the world.
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A war with China would be a foolish waste of time, money and precious life. Having lived in China from 2005 - 2022, I know just how lovely the Chinese people are. But, they are a very proud people. A people who have survived for thousands of years, bullied, in the past several hundred years, 6 million Chinese brutally murdered by Japan, the opium wars from UK…etc.
It's 100% guaranteed to happen. That's the thing.
the pentagon has said quietly that a usa invasion of asia would be a suicide mission.
Not several hundreds of years. That is exaggeration. Yes, China was invaded, but resilient Chinese people stood their ground and came back rapidly in the last half century!
That's what you are missing here.. The CCP starved 40M to death and they still play on the national narrative of the Century of Humilliation to build and justify their military billigerence.
Exactly! Having lived in Asia (Singapore) Russia and Europe, I totally agree and this applies to Russian folks as well! Leave each other and we can live in peace for once ❤
Nobel peace prize for Sachs
The difference is that Jeffrey understands China better than others. Thank goodness!
John believes ALL countries would act like Anglo Saxons if they were in their shoes. I believe China as a civilization and society is fundamentally different and wouldn't be hellbent on meddling with others. China is just inwards focused, no one can change these forces that make it this way
@dunzhen I am probably biased because of my countries location and history. But to me, China seem like expansionist, and Russia is like a protective alliance. I am from Mongolia. But judging from the actions of NATOs in the last decade both Russia and China seem like angels in comparison.
USA became a hegemon due to very distinct and unique historical circumstances. It is highly unlikely that any nation would ever dominate the world the way USA has over the last 150 years or so, especially in an emerging multi-polar world.
He's a Self-Proclaimed wumao 🤣
@@marcomongke3116 That's fair. I think Anglo Saxon empires really put it into perspective how much worse China could be. I just won't accept hearing this from a Westerner...honestly. Unfortunately everyone lets them get away speaking from some moral highground
You are the man prof Sachs thank you much love ❤
Absolutely agree 100% ❤❤prof Sachs 👍👍
jeffry was having tantrum😂😂😂😂
@@fffwe3876 he kept his cool despite being surrounded with 5 American zealous Zionist wanting to cling to a past gone era. Sachs was the only one talking about todays reality not spouting US 20th century halcyon days gone by.
Russia will win in Europe (Ukraine)
Iran will win in Middle East (Israel)
China will win in West (US)
Welcome to the 21st century (BRICS)
Please invite them to the all in podcast and get more time and deeper dive!
yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Naah, the moderators are quite manipulative. But Sachs already gives a weekly interview on judge napolitano's yourube channel
I have to agree with every valid point that Prof. Jeffrey Sachs said. He speaks about the pros and cons of the underlying reality of American foreign policy.
Jeffrey sachs is such a legend! Nobody with his type of extensive experience in foreign policy has the courage to speak the truth about americas intentions abroad the way he does. Just pure straight unadulterated truth! Bravo Jeffrey, bravo!
Sachs for Secretary of State.
Truth and reality is something that the American brainwashed population just can't accept
@@jameshegel1324never mind secretary of state all the congress is the same he should be secretary or president of the United nations and the ICC people like Victoria nulan and the Clinton's and all them warmongering people in the wh should be
@@jameshegel1324only in our dreams, the interest groups would go to a great length to prevent that from happening if you ask John.
@@jameshegel1324He's considered a traitor
Jeff is such a treasure to not only the US, but the world. If everyone is like jeff, we wouldnt have bad conflicts.
John describes the world we live in, Jeffrey describes the world rational people want to live in.
Rational people?
@TacticalMayo yes, real human with sentiment !
So true
I think his background as an economist set up the way he see the world through the money vains that runs largely by rational people and more in a rational direction.
John was a soldier he knows the flaws of the chain of command and can extrapolate that on a government state
Understand, John want the USA to go to war with China PRC next.... and Jeffrey said, nuts !@!
both prof. are great minds, and I'm with Prof. Sacks 100%!
It was heartbreaking to hear how desperately Sachs tried to get people to take nuclear war seriously.
But it's inevitable. No one's going to stop it. You reached for the crown. It's time to party.
We're all watching and praying very intently, know that.
@@TacticalMayo seems like an empty threat. if it happens what are you gonna do! Nothing!
@@Mary-f1k8t no bot
@@tuckerbugeater ,
How about making sure it NEVER will happen.
Drr Jeffrey Sacks is at trhe height of his brilliance and eloquence here, outshining even the formidable J. Mearsheimer. Bravo!
@@psyberking “height of brilliance and eloquence ”, “formidable J Mearsheimer”, “Bravo”. Do yourself a favor and read your comments out loud, what a phony way to speak. Mearsheimer and Sachs make some valid points about the inherent desire for power of governments, but Sachs is basically a CCP apologist.
Except where he said he has no clue besides Sarkozy not liking Khaddafi why "we" went to war with Lybia ...It was OBVIOUSLY to make the migrant and slave trade locker country which was lybia explode .....So Europe could have it's social system flooded and bankrupted by tsunamis of migrants , to ease of the liberlisation of Europe , and to permit a huge influx of canon fodder ready for the coming war with Russia ......But Sachs is a huge limited hangout and obviously he hasn't been given "clearance" to say that out loud
@@nicholaselliott2484 CIA shills has joined the chat
@@nicholaselliott2484 So please enlighten us. Show us your rational arguments in support of your claims. Engaging in name calling such as "phony", "CCP", "shills" is baboon-speak and a denial of the rational discourse we should be having as human beings.
@@nicholaselliott2484what a disappointing comment
Only Sachs thinks outside the American exceptionalism box.
Interestingly, he was Masako Owada's (current Empress of Japan) thesis advisor at Harvard.
Great Minds. Thank you for speaking truths we all need to know
We love you for your great honesty Professor Sachs.Thank for great insights from the forum guests. Peace to all as always.
A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY ! The All In with two GREAT THINKERS. Those 2 guests may be the ONLY chance for the Americans, and the rest of us in the world, to find out what the MSM is forbidden to share. They gave a couple of clear explanations of who/what is hindering any peace initiatives. Thankyou
Exactly 👍
Well said. I 💯% agree 👍
Dynamic duo
The sad news is the interest groups would go out of great length to prevent anyone like them from ever be elected in any meaningful position.
@@simpleman5541 since power does corrupt, I’d say keep out if politics and fight for freedom of speech. Our Founders knew how Imperialists work and the Constitution puts it in writing.
Jeffrey, you’re a real peacemaker.. Thank you.. 🙏🙏🙏
It's very obvious that all the 5 speakers were trying their hardest to get some anti-China grants (if they aren't on the payroll already). Jeffrey was the only adult up there,
Jeffrey is NOT a peacemaker. He made some good points. But his 2 State solution for Gaza and Israel makes NO sense. He seems to be in the pocket of The UN. I like the fact that he want's peace. But peace at any cost is what led to WW2. The fact that he doesn't know that is very disturbing.
Indeed, principled and consistent. Jeffrey Sachs is principled and consistent. He is a hero for peace and humanity,
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“ But peace at any cost is what led to WW2. The fact that he doesn't know that is very disturbing. “
Wars at any cost will lead to annihilation of nuclear WW3.
Jeffery Sachs is not a person of ‘peace at any cost’, he believed war is only necessary after exhausting all diplomatic efforts, exactly what Russia has done before its SMO in Ukraine.
@@58Galthapeace is not what caused WW2, what a distorted version of history. Are you unfamiliar with Woodrow Wilson’s handling of the Treaty of Versailles? How can you possibly say that the second half of world war 1 was a time of peace?
thank you for making a great conversation between two American thinkers. i support prof Jeffery! I support PEACE.
Wow, Thank you Mr. Jeffery Sachs for speaking truth with so much conviction. 🙏
Sadly, the moderators are a bunch of fools who wouldn't even let him speak.
Sachs is wrong on almost everything.
He's a globalist appeaser bureaucrat.
Both Sachs and Mearsheimer are Gems of today's world. Lots of respect from Nepal
Lots of respect from Sacramento as well!
Mearsheimer is very different from Jeffrey
Well said!
@@dwadd7528 especially when it comes to China. I am also more convinced with Sachs world views.
The whole of the deep state are worlds real and dangerous dictators
We are in a paradigm shift from geopolitics to geoeconomics, which China is leading. The way forward to continued prosperity for Americans is to cooperate with China instead of competing. That means shifting ideas about power seeking or being a ruthless hegemon. I agree with Jeffrey Sachs that China is not a threat to the U.S. We are all threatened by nuclear war. Yes, our mindset leads us to this brink. We can change our mindset. It's feasible. And I appreciate Jeffrey Sachs explaining all this.
If you read Chinese at all, China wants to be a ruthless hegemony. And CCP is not known for benevolent and just governance
@@jieli4589I do read Chinese and I listen to great thinker like Prof Zhang Wei Wei....they are NOT ruthless Hegemon and never will be, all they want is moderate prosperity to its 1.4 billion citizens and to spread the wealth to the rest of the world, esp to poorer nations. Stop lying and fabricating stories.
@@jieli4589You read Chinese? If you do, show evidence that supports your discourse.
@@jieli4589yes. Please enlighten us with evidence of your claims.
I agree. Mearsheimer is projecting western ideas about power onto China. Not everyone who gets power wields it like a psychopath.
John is saying how the world is. Jeff is saying how it should be. A historian vs an economist
John, being a neocon, has a stand that US shall only be the sole superpower to oppress the rest!!!
But the historian did not take into consideration nuclear war
@@motoquipe He basically said it’s inevitable.
Mearsheimer is a US exceptionalist. He is wrong
Some of the comments here shows how much folks don’t know about J. Mearsheimer. You can check his second interview with Piers Morgan where he, at length, discussed the implications of Nuclear deterrent. He also never said nuclear war is inevitable. On exceptionalism, he has an entire book on liberal delusions and American foreign policy. You can check his 3 part Yale series on this. So please people, read and watch a bit before commenting
Hats off to Jeffrey 👏🎩
Thank you Professor Sachs for being patient, talking in the face of so much headwinds of ignorance. America will always be lost in ignorance if platforms such as this don’t take understanding the world more seriously. Mouthing ignorance and factually incorrect opinions is dangerous. And irresponsible for the peace of the world
Well put!
You just made a statment supporting censorship. The anedote to bad speech is more speech.
I’ve followed both of these great men for years. Definitely feel that Sachs is the wiser mind and heart.
If you are an idealist. Mearsheimer calls it as is.
@@pauligwedibia9783 whereas mearsheimer paints a picture of nuclear holocaust with no solution, a fatalist
@@pauligwedibia9783 If you area realist.
i have followed sachs since he was a junior fellow. at harvard
@@siamcharm7904does he have twitter? Gonna go and follow him
Such a blessing to see this two together.
Professor Sachs is a brilliant man and he see things through. He is absolutely correct.
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely... " That is the US today!
Marcus Aurelius anybody?
THe full quote is more interesting: "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority; still more when you superadd the tendency or the certainty of corruption by authority."
Power corrupts everybody except maybe Elon.
Jeffrey Sacks - BRAVO! My day is only meaningful if I have a chance to listen to Jeffery. Clear, reflecting realty, logical, rational, genius professor and, unfortunately, so naive. But he now submuts that he was naive in the past. I wish more people in the world listen to his opinion. He desperately tries to save the world, but not too many people really get that he is damn right about nuclear thread. The nukes really can ruin your day! Wake up, folks!
I agree with Prof. Sachs, the world doesn't have to be a sea of sharks. This is what BRICS is doing, uniting great powers to trade and cooperate, not to fight wars. I hope one day the US and Europe join this peaceful block.
Absolutely!
Love the idea
I am awe struck at this panel. I've never seen a more sincere and respectful discussion among intelectuals as John Mearsheimer and Jeffrey Sachs. I've been a huge fan of the two and also wondered when the two'd be seen together. Their foreign policy really resonates closely with my believes on how the US should handle global conflict. Kudos to All-in Podcast for getting these two together.
WOW! Two of the best thinkers on foreign policies.
Well said. I wish these Mr. Mearsheimer and Mr. Sachs can become our national security advisors.
@@crazycat1232 Will not happen unfortunately. They are too rational and anti-war.
@@crazycat1232I think they would have a conflict of interest as they are already use idiots for Putin
@@Papa_bear_2046ok bot
@@1Matik_ oh no... I got caught😉
Professor Sachs got all my respect.
@@Mixam-256He cares about peace and anybody would get upset when the American Neocons are hell bent to blow up the world
Professors Sachs and Mearsheimer demonstrate true intellectual greatness. How to learn from each other, how to agree to disagree, how to respect each other, how to be friends. Amazing chemistry. An example for everybody. It is a privilege to watch their interaction and listen to them speak.
One major misperception propagated here, that Jeffery has addressed before but did not rebut with here:
The US has in reality shown no intent (although they claim otherwise) to spread democracy.
The US has disassembled, subverted and Couped more democracies as compared to the Dictators they have removed.
Yet the US Vehemently supports Monarchies such as Jordan and Saudi Arabia.
The US had for instance also overturned the Iranian democracy (left leaning) in 1953 and caused the Taliban to come to power in Afghanistan by sporting the Mujahideen in the 1980's and 1990's.
That is in spite of the Afghanistan having a Secular (left leaning) democracy in the 1970's.
The United States of Avarice just as well created the Mujs, starting in mid-1979 (by Zbig Brzezinskis' own admission, or rather bragging about it back in the late 20th century), at least half a year BEFORE the USSR intervention in Afghanistan (on request from the then legitimate Afgani government).
Operation Cyclone iirc.
@@calicocat8213
Indeed.
There is a mountain of such evidence.
There hubris makes them boasts about these things.
They even made a movie about it in 2007: Charlie Wilson's War.
It stared Tom Hanks and Julia Roberts.
But you can legitimize whatever you want to do by saying it is to spread democracy
@@macrosense
Indeed.
Like saying that supporting Ukraine is about democracy.
That is in spite of Ukraine banning most of the opposition parties and Zelensky canceling the 2024 elections, because he had no chance of a legitimate reelection.
Zelensky's electoral mandate expired in May 2024...but it's still a "Democracy"
@@macrosense Yeah, democracy via Shock and Awe.
This is freaking amazing! Thanks All In!!
These are voices that won’t be heard anywhere else - and I’m grateful their message is getting out. 👍
Exactly! 🎯
Professor Sachs is the most intelligent, rational, logical, sane person I have heard talking about American foreign policy. If only our leaders would listen to him.
Jeffrey Sachs was recently on Tucker Carlson Podcast.
And we had over near 2.5 hours of All Jeffrey Sachs on that podcast.
One cannot help but be mesmerized by all that Jeffrey Sachs has to say.
This All-In Podcast was NO where near long enough, for we had TWO great minds talking here.
Praying Trump calls him up for duty!
if he is smart, he will
@@ThatsnotwhereIparkedmycar He would never work for Trump!!
, I agree with you 💯
john > jeff
reality > what we should strive to be
These are 2 of my favorite people to listen to. A wealth of knowledge and experience and HONESTY that you probably won't get anywhere else. An immense treasure of factual truths and in depth knowledge that is incomparable
Average citizens want prosperity, not war. Interventionist policy is not in the best interest of the people.
It's going to happen
average persons prosperity is based on agressive policy. Thats why average person in the US is way more prospective than those of in Africa, Middle East an etc.
It's true but the average citizens' jobs got shipped over to China.
Jeffrey Sachs is the best, he speaks with reason and just, a man of integrity and intelligence like Jeffrey Sachs is one in a million, a courageous man who advocate for peace for the entire world 🌍🙏
This is the most important discussion about geopolitics to date, everyone must listen! Jeff is outstanding! He is the “National Treasure” of the world for “Peace and Prosperity”!
It was a very good panel discussion. I have a few thoughts after listening to it. First, the world's hot conflicts, Ukraine, Taiwan, Gaza, all depend on the behavior of the United States. Although John said that the United States only takes its own interests into consideration and always wants to maintain its hegemony, will this solve the problem? Secondly, the United States is surrounding China in Asia, but says that China is a threat. Let's see in our own eyes, who patrols the Taiwan Strait, the East China Sea, and the South China Sea every day? Are those American waters? Third, is India an ally of the United States. This is the most ridiculous judgment I have ever heard. Going back 30 years, the United States also thought that China was its ally. Fine, if the United States really wants to be the hegemon of the world as John pointed out, then don't talk about security and peace, just prepare for war and destruction.
AS AN AMERICAN BUSINESS MAN WHO HAVE TRAVELLED GLOBALLY AND BEEN TO CHINA MOST AMERICANS HAVE THIS OLD 1970 IMAGE OF CHINA WITH PEOPLE RIDING BICYCLES AND DRESSED THE SAME.. AS RAY DALLIO SAID, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME IN OUR HISTORY WE ARE FACING A NATION THAT IS OUT COMPETETING AND BEATING US IN SECTOR AFTER SECTOR. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE AMERICAN ARE GOING TO HAVE TO COMPLETE MAN TO MAN AGAINST A PEOPLE WE DEEM INFERIOR.MANY SANE AMERICANS WHO LIVED IN CHINA OR HAVE BEEN TO CHINA STAND WITH DR SACHS. THE CHINESE WILL CARE LESS WHAT 336 MILLION
AMERICANS THINK. THEY ARE NOT CONSUMED BY ANTI AMERICAN DERANGEMENT SYNDROME. THEY ARE BUSY GETTING RICH TRADING WITH THE WORLD.I THIS INSANE IDEA THAT WORLD BELONGS TO AMERICA IS NOT ONLY DELUSIONAL BUT EXTREMELY NAUSISISTIC AND ECONOMICALLY DANGEROUS.
Why are your caps on? Is this the only way you feel that you can be heard? It's somewhat rude.
46:21 'Insane idea the world belongs to America' comes not from American people but from individuals like V. Nuland. Before they were thinking 'the world belongs to communism (USSR), in what the USA had not agreed.
You missed an essential point : China is not considered a white country and the US is the last hope for the whites to stay in power ! and if you think I'm exaggerating just read what American politicians write about these matters .
its true. man
@@onlyahuman493Yes US is the last and only white majority country that has hegemonic power and all other white majority countries want US to contain China
John and Jeff - the best contemporary thinkers alive! Love both, but agree with Jeff.
Jeffrey Sachs is not
@dwadd7528 Make a point
John is not!
There id a another one but he is french us name us Todd Emmanuel.he us far more wise.
Too bad very few people think like Jeffrey Sachs in the west.
Absolutely not. He's a traitor
That foolish thinking was the norm back in the 2000 which got us where we are today especially wrt China.
Jeffrey Sachs is on a different level. While John is intelligent, he's like a chess player who thinks five moves ahead, whereas Jeffrey plans ten moves in advance. Just think about how high school bullies often end up later in life.
What I am so surprised about being a Dutch European, is there really no western European University or broad neutral institution or press body that can invite these American professors to throw their insights on our international political tables over here.. so that we don't have to rely on opinion making UA-cam propaganda.. and can have some subtitles as followers of the American narrative...
They have been brain washed to believe in a sense of self superiority that they are in the right side of history, pathetic
The best interview All -IN had this Summit.
It’s 4 am as I lie awake due to jet lag after my long travel abroad and I think I’ve just seen the best 1 hour of explanation on what makes America behave the way it does on the world stage and the two catastrophic wars going on right now!
Thanks All-in! You guys just did what the entire world’s MSM failed to do 😊
100% fully agreed with Jeff. 2/3 with John. JM is so wrong on China.
Exactly.
"Understanding" actually means what it says: standing under.
Putting oneself in the other side's shoes, forgetting your stereotypes and prejudices, and trying to understand the other side's way of reasoning and MO.
agree! I think John have never been to China before.
JM also wrong on Russia. Undoubtedly a learned man, if badly mistaken on Russia, and has been for years.
John is not wrong because it is his real belief that US should contain China so she always remain poor and subservient to the US
@@philipmulville8218 What are his errors regarding Russia?
Great platform for bringing Prof’s Sachs and Mearsheimer together. Some truthful discussion on the issues.
Mr. Sachs - Chapeau!!! 👏🙏
Competition is the law of the Jungle.
Cooperation is the law of Civilization.
~ Aldous Huxley
Too simple, too naive
in reality it is both. and there is a third component: conflict.
perfect quote for this
@@chrismai1889 Yes, and civilized people settle conflict without violence. If war broke out then one or both parties failed to be civilized and return to Jungle rule.
Jeez, at 19.15 that guy still asked that question about weakening dictatorships and the right to meddle. The US has put in place dictators for decades (Iran, Chile, Argentina, etc.). Is it not the US that is acting like the dictator of the world? There is a UN SC that has been deliberately mocked, abused rendered useless facing resolution after resolution vetoed by the US, Israel, and their allies - so that they can over rule UN's role and then wage wars, i.e.. Iraq, Syria, Libya.... The US does not abide by any humanitarian law nor Geneva Conventions, nor the ICC nor the ICJ, it signs treaties it does not respect, agreements that they disregard. Listen to what both Professors are explaining.
guy is brainwashed by msm
😂😂😂
Exactly! He did not see that was the root of all evil, that we convinced ourselves that we are always the infallible “good guy” that every thing we do is with good intention for the world. Even you watch a few Hollywood movies you know that is a dubious belief.
Plus, Putin and Xi Jinping are not dictators. Was wondering if the questioner is actually part of the deep state propaganda machine. He knows all their talking points. It's particularly laughable that people describe Xi as a dictator. He doesn't make any decisions alone, there are many people in the government of China that have to agree on policy. China is anything but a dictatorship.
Then he says that Xi Jingping is self imploding due to containment. Where is he getting this stuff?
Jaycal is just dumb on US foreign policy objectives
Notes for serious listeners:
1. The key differences between Mearsheimer & Sachs are about power vs economics. Economics prefers positive sum games. Power prefers zero sum games.
2. Mearsheimer thinks conflict is inevitable given the regional hegemon that's the US. If you are the biggest baddest bully on the street, you'll be threatened by a challenger and work to contain it. Sachs however, believes this kind of thinking gets us closer to the brink of nuclear war and should be halted.
Based on the behavior of the US government, we are doomed.
1. While I like the high level hypothesis that economics is a positive sum game, this is a false way of looking at it. Thus, why there is the idea of "economic warfare". It was not a "positive sum game" to all the Midwest who the billionaire auto owner class decided to outsource all of their labor to other sources of cheap labor.
In the 1970's It would have been better to have pushed much more into robotics to manufacture domestically.
To be fair its always easy to judge history 50 years later...
2. While I agree with this idea of holding nuclear war as a concern, MAD is still a thing. And given how excessively hostile the CCP has been to the Filipinos over the last 5 years, with numbers of increasing ships, they are pushing hostility all over.
Also the CCP is the King of playing the victim when they are ramming and sinking Filipino ships, that are 20 miles off of the coast of the Philippines. That's +500 miles away from China. It sounds like they are pushing into the Malaysian and Indian waters too to attempt to control the pathways of oil too. Also China alone currently produces 50% of all ships in the whole world....
@@eriklondon2946do you know why ccp policy again philiphine and vietnam ( and other asean country) is diff even they got same issues? one calling big gun the other using diplomatic skill.
@@EdwinTan-ci6ru I can't understand your engrish CCP Spy. Go away.
@@eriklondon2946ask Malaysians, they will let you know China and Malaysians traded peacefully for many many centuries without wars. Otherwise Malaysis's official language would have be Chinese long ago.
China's philosophy is completely different than what John preaches here.
The Philippines former president led the country having a good relationship with China as well.
It's the new president who decides to act as the USA's proxy to provoke China.
China is extremely patient with the Philippines. If it were the USA or Russia, the Philippines would have been bombed all over, to say the least. You need to understand different people have different mindset, not all think the same way as the USA.
It's great to see these two gentlemen together. Serious people, exemplary citizens. John Mearsheimer and Professor Sachs are essential to understand what is going on in the world. They speak truth fearlessly. Thank you both.
Jeffrey Sachs is a sensible guy and not a warmonger.
He's a traitor to America.
I too would love for the CCP to have a peaceful policy..... but having watched videos of China using their coast guard in islands 20 miles off of the Philippians, +500 miles away from China attacking, stabbing people, ramming almost sinking Philippian coast guard boats.... because China built a military base on top of the coral reefs inside the Philippians economic zones, but just outside their 20-mile boarder. There was a 60 Minutes episode about this I saw on 9.16.2024.
It was just economic, but sadly now it is growing into a military force. Much the same as the US did, after we had our men being taken as slaves and worked to death in the Ottoman Empire in the 1800's.
Edit for the literal Chinese Spies below:
Yes, I have heard this from 4 different sources. Separately, I have heard this from my Aunt who is Filipino and has family back in the Philippines, as well as I have a childhood best friend who just moved out to the Philippines 3 months ago.
The reason I said to watch the 60 minutes episode is because it encapsulates it well, and shows how the Chinese government makes their propaganda against the country they are attacking... in this case the Philippines.
For the Chinese Spies, do you really have nothing else to do with your time? Why don't you go worship Xi more and memorize his "Xi Thought"?
China has the right to defend itself, just like any other country. They can and will build a powerful military. Now, how many countries did China invade in the last 100 years vs America, England, Germany, Japan, etc.?
Jeffery is more logical factually has given the interview compared to John
@@eriklondon2946 how and why did the British empire decline? Your thinking is exactly the mindset that will lead the USA into decline like the British empire did.
Professor Jeffry Sacks‘s idea about China is correct. China has been and is a peaceful country, which want to develop its economy.
She is not against America‘s or Europe‘s richness.
But the Americans and its vassals believe only they, the western countries ,are entitled to be economically rich not China. This kind of greed and selfishness is morally wrong and unacceptable.
The world has enough for everybody.
It is also ridiculous for the guys to think that India will be any different. If India achieves same economic miracle as China then they will also be perceived as a threat to the US/West.
@@evilleader1991fully agree. BTW look at how India did with Sikkim, Nepal, and formal government of Bangladesh. It already has very strong control in the region.
@@evilleader1991 Actually, John have said that in India.
if you think the ccp is peaceful then you're absolutely wrong. Just check what's going on in the south china sea where they're doing all kinds of abuse to the Philippines.
also china has been waging what they call "unlimited warfare" against the US for many years just read up their book by one of their generals it's amazon lol
how can the people be so clueless? It's almost like the media spends all of their time blasting trump and and nobody even knows about these things lol
The guy on the far left of the stage is clueless... he should have read Mearsheimer's and Sach's books prior to this important session.
Clueless, and without good manners.
He is behind on everything, even on information.
He is annoyingly clueless. His wilfully ignorant and bigoted notions about China reflect the majority brainwashed mindset of his fellow countrymen.
He gets his info from CNN and NYT. Consumer of nonsense spews nonsense.
And extremely arrogant too!
Jeffrey is an absolute legend! I wish more people in the US would watch talks like this and read his work. Well done All-In boys for inviting such a great intellectual to your show and for allowing such a rich dialogue. I love you guys!
Proffesor Sachs, please run for president of the US. I'd vote for you in a heartbeat. The world needs you desperately. ❤❤❤❤❤👍👍👍✌️✌️✌️✌️
He actually endorses Jill Stein.
Sadly he will be sacrificed then
Don’t be naive. Didn’t you listen about the deep state in the beginning? Look what happened to JFK for not submitting to their pressures
BRAVO, BRAVO, BRAVO, Dr Sachs! 🫶👏👏👏👏
I could listen to these two for hours and hours, please bring them back
Prof. Sachs is thinking about the world and Human beings, while John is thinking about American interests alone
That is why I have no respect for John at all...
Soo true
I’d say the US *corporate interests. Not the interests of the American _people_
John, Jeffrey, I would love to grab a beer with you both. Classy, smart, rational. You are all what's right in the world. You should be president and vicepresident
Jeffrey president and john vice president then. Ok?
Yes he said is not the president which has the power power lied behind the man with the black suit doesn't matter who is the president the president he doesn't have any power here we tried to find out who is the man with the black suit that's what is the question... president means nothing...
MORE MORE MORE:
Please have a Mearsheimer-and-Sachs PART 2 !
And make it a two to three hour podcast!!
They have important things that MUST be talked about.
And This podcast was NOT long enough; it wasn't even an hour long.
I could listen to Jeffrey Sachs for ever, Great speakers
You can check him out on judge napolitano, once a week 🫶🏼 and others as well, such as Max Blumenthal
It's on youtube
@@sacamain0 Thank you very much. I do tune into the Judge bit I will search out Max now :)
What seems to be missed is through most of China's history it WAS a regional hegemon. And it DIDN'T go galavanting around the world trying to remake societies.
Regional power, not hegemon. The tribute system is actually exaggerated by the west. Many times the tribute given by smaller state to China is rewarded with even bigger and valuable gift to the ruler of the smaller state. China for the most part when ruled by settled Han people is quite docile and inward looking (Ming and Song is a good example). But when it was conquered by nomadic people like the manchu and mongols, it became expansionist and also assimilates it ruler's ethnicity. Whoever conquers China becomes Chinese.
@@turtlesoup8134 No. Hegemon. Saying China wasn't a hegemon, is like saying Rome wasn't a hegemon or Persia. No one in the region was a real challenge and they looked to China for legitimization in exchange of tribute.
And as you mentioned that wasn't the Chinese that were doing all the foreign ventures, it was the Mongols.
@@Jamfar777 A hegemon means that it can dictate the actions and policy of its neighbor. But in reality, that is not the case for the most part of Chinese history. There was a lot of diplomacy and influencing the neighbors but either it is unwilling or unable to be a true hegemon. The qing dynasty is unquestionably a hegemon, but I am speaking about Chinese civilization as a whole. Song and Ming are weak in terms of military and definitely can't enforce hegemony. Yuan is of course a Hegemon since it is Mongolian but it doesn't last. China for the most part is defending against outside invaders from far smaller nomadic group or nation.
@@turtlesoup8134 "Hegemony is the political, economic, and military predominance of one state over others states, either regional or global."
Due to China's size and industry, it was the economic center of gravity for the region. While, periphery nations getting domestic LEGITIMACY from association with the Emperor. That is a hegemon.
That's like being the medieval Pope in Western Europe, with the power to acknowledge kings. Combine that with economic power, cultural influence, and the largest regional military.
@@turtlesoup8134 ming was weak? Qing was weak? You weren't taught history right!
Wow, it must be the first time when these two are on the same stage. It's fabulous that their opinions can diverge but still co-exist. Contrary to MSM when there are 1000 mouth but speaking the same thing.
They have a good recent interview together, just the two talking on zoom
@@AlexA-cn5ip can you post a link to their mutual interview please?!
@@AlexA-cn5ip yes, please. at least the title. Thx. 🙏
@@rak6223 Jeffrey Sachs W/ John Mearsheimer-Global Crises Nov 14, 2023
I'm amazed that you have these two guys on! I love them! They are the best of America's political intellectuals, and they want the very best for America.
Tweedledee and Tweedledum. So true.
The AIP is becoming a really important news resource.
Thank Sachs
Jeffrey you are the Man!!!. Cheers M8.
One of the best panel. Two academic giants. Learned soo much from Professor John.
Why is China the threat. Work together. Thats the path.
It's so simple. Even kids would get it.
This would never happen on mainstream media. Thanks.
Because it's fake news. It'd shatter the deep state if everyone hears Jeffery Sachs.
They disagree on China, but they are respectful to each other. I agree with Sacks. Mearsheimer is thinking what’s good for America and Sacks what’s good for the world.
What good is it for usa when nuclear wars happen?
There are limits to how far you can push thing. What usa is doing is creating the condition that Will make sure, china becoming your enemy.
And you want to destroy a country that have hundreds if not thousand of nukes?
I’ve heard Mearsheimer interact on news shows with antagonists. He was calm, patient and professorial; presented facts that could not be disputed.
2 men who should be consulted by our leaders.
Sachs also is thinking what's good for America. No way a neclear war is good for America. Sachs wants US learn to respect another big power who gets nuclear weapons. Mearsheimer just believes nothing will work, let's go to hell together.
This is such a good way to put it!
Mearsheimer: USA is a ruthless great power. Of course, he wants USA staying in hegemony as a USA citizen. But the cost of USA hegemony is people in the rest of the world suffering struggling for a living while USA leading west live a much better life level than the rest of the world. That’s the truth behind this hegemony. I don’t think people from global south agree with this world order. I think Sacks just means being a local America continent hegemony is okay, USA still leads a good life.
Absolutely phenomenal discussion!!!
Heated exchange with manner and respect! Just amazing!
We need another hour of this panel
Make it 5 hours, They barely scratched the surface and didn't even speak about most regions
@@PharaohC6 100% agreed. This could be a much longer discussion.
Agreed, 1 hour is far too little time. I have heard them speak hundreds of times individually but this is the first time that I have heard Mearsheimer say that he would wish there was another path that deviates from the clash of great powers.
You can listen to mearsheimer talk w Judge Napolitano if you want to hear more of his thoughts, he’s on there often.
Sachs has interviews pretty often
@@clarkdavis1779 Both appear once a week there, Sachs maybe misses one from time to time due to his extensive travels.
Watching this incredible debate from a tiny town in China.
We are so privileged to hear these two masters exchanging their ideas, disagreeing with each other but keeping it civilized (not like the US presidential debate).
That’s what we need! Kudos!
Unbelievable wisdom from these two gentlemen.