Nicholas Irving on Killing Being More Addictive Than Drugs, Natural Born Killer vs. Trained (Part 6)
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
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In this clip, Shawn Prez started off asking Nicholas Irving about disassociating from the killing that he did in the Army, and he asked if killers are made in the Army. Nicholas explained that he feels like he was “born” killer, although he hadn’t experienced it yet, and he added that all the training goes out the window when you’re being shot at. Nicholas added that killing is more addictive than any drug in existence, and Shawn Prez asked if the thrill of the kill entices soldiers. Nicholas said it’s no different than the thrill of hunting, and he added that the soldiers that he went in with are different people now. Nicholas went on to speak about facing his demons after leaving the Army, and he added that they would take 2 to 3 days to drink and party to forget everything.
Interview by: Shawn Prez
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War changed me too. I got out in 2017 after doing 12 as an 11B and 13b. I turned to alcohol lost my family hit rock bottom. I have a career and I’m a 100 percent disabled vet so I’m ok with money and a roof. But sex and liquor were my coping mechanisms. Starting to finally get my head above water mentally and emotionally and it’s tough.
Keep marching forward I have a similar story accept I didn’t go to the military.I went to prison at a young age & mentally I was lost for years.I turned to drugs,alcohol,sex & making the same mistake over & over.
Stay strong bro ✊. It's a everyday battle, just don't give up. Hopefully u have or find somebody or something that give you balance to help u move forward.
Hang in there big man! Take it one day at a time.
@@getmoneychill6462 you hit the nail on the head making the same mistakes. I’m 38 now and finally just now getting my shit together. Stay strong man
@@benpeep I appreciate that. Everyday a challenge
Shawn Prez, you really did well in this interview. Proud of you Shawn. Nick Irving’s capacity to be present, to be a willing collaborator is boundless. His talent is off the charts.
@Godleveltroll315exactly, take it out of your mouth!!!
This Guy was terrible man lol. He didn't listen close enough. You can tell by some of his follow-up questions.
@Joe Tezzo They never do. Guarantee it’s someone in his family thinking about interviewing people right now and he ain’t showing them no type of support.
@Joe Tezzo Yep, happening in my family right now. My own sisters don’t support what I got going on but are quick to support a celebrity that’s already established. It’s crazy.
@Joe Tezzo lmaooo you're wild asf 🤣
When this full interview becomes available it's going to be one of the biggest ones for sure. Hearing him explain how he compartmentalized the traumatic things he went thru is mind blowing. The ceiling fan story and the legs taking 2 steps after the top half of the body was blown off and the sack of potatoes is all just crazy to me.
Its gonna blow because americans love hearing about death and destruction
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@@watsappenin2865everyone does, there’s a reason warriors are celebrated and respected in every country in the world
Check his interview on valuetainment channel as well meanwhile . Came out 2 years ago where I knew about him.
@@watsappenin2865 or we like to hear a good story about not giving up, being a "loser" and then becoming a "hero"
Weirdly happy that he mentioned coping badly for a bit to address what he was doing/had done rather than simply saying that he was okay. shows the humanity.
Only these fake ass rappers play the killer role and pretend it’s nothing lol
The fact that he never goes off topic, thoroughly speaks, and can even add in those golden little nuggets details that weren’t even asked but help you visualize every word this man is saying. I hope we get a good 3hr full interview fellas, a breathe of fresh air far from the mainstream interview scene (rap/music/politics )🙌🏽🍾🍿
He wrote a few books
To be fair it's hard to change the subject about something so vividly traumatic that his thought process is probably stunned, he can speak coherently but his psyche is somewhat mainly in battlefield mode,
@@1savannahlegend247 Any traumatic event will re-wire your brain. From as simple as self to complex as societal impact! At this point it’s muscle memory disguised behind daily civilian life. Just know the ex-mil and guys like him is who you want to be by when Babylon(🇺🇸) implodes and falls! I say ex- mil because the opposite will most likely be U.S martial law officers, Anarchist, Militias, etc…
@@jaysonbrandon9505 definitely! This very conversation is altering our neuroplasticity, the brain never forgets faces, even if you can't consciously and immediately recall it. The memory to recall your experience is in a different part of the brain than the sensation and the stimuli spawning it. Faces are stored in the fusiform gyrus always. So he will potentially see these faces of his casualties appear in his dreams for an unbeknownst amount of time, periodically, ad infinitum, ad nauseum etcetera
@@1savannahlegend247 Nice to see another scholar! Stay blessed! Repent! We’re living in the Book of Revelation! It’s time to get right with God while your alive and he hasn’t returned! Don’t fear him who can kill your flesh, but fear who can kill the flesh and spirit. Jesus Christ died for our sins, and right now at war, tallying up of the D/evil/s, and those who accept him and his salvation of eternal life! Will return kill the Antichrist, gather his people. Earth shall be destroyed. We all(personally) will face God the Father, the Devil w/ evidence, demonic witnesses and being the accuser, your on the stand for your personal physical life, are you going to go face trial alone, where’s your lawyer, who is your lawyer? The real question is, is “Jesus your Savior?”. He already has bail/debt paid for all his clients, but did you know him on temporary earth with your temporary life? So if God the father asked Jesus do you truly know him ,take accountability and pay off his/her debt, what do you think he’ll say…You don’t need a church,pastor, or anything to repent on earth,just come truthfully, ready to accept him and let him do his HOLY divine intervention on your life! Stay blessed may everything you do prosper!
I know a guy who went to Afghanistan and worked as a bouncer when he came back. I don't know if he had killed anyone there but he told me that the adrenaline rushes he experienced as a soldier were like a drug and as a bouncer, he put himself in dangerous situation to get this feeling again.
I'm sure he killed ppl of he was infantry
That’s why most become cops. They love the adrenaline.
@Gym Boy I agree..its almost like a high, being a cop doesn't compare. Nothing seems "normal" outside of the military
@@bkyungplaya but you try to get as close as possible to that rush. It’s like a junkie chasing that first high and never being able to catch it no matter how many times he injects.
Makes sense, cops love killing people left an right🤦♂️🤦♂️
His story is by far the most interesting story Vlad’s had on. AUTHENTIC. The tough stories not glamorizing the hood.
I agree
I'll slaughter this dude on the field.. I got 20 years of experience in call of duty so this nigga definitely don't wanna see me 👌🏾
What’s interesting to people is subjective.
Gtfoh, he killed as a part of his job. People in the hood kill to survive. Killing is killing so ease off his dick
Not really
I think Shawn did this interview flawlessly. Not to say Vlad couldn't have or would've been this good, but Shawn did his thing on this one. Salute this brother for his service as well.
You might not say it but im gonna say it vlad would not've done a better job
Shawn actually lets the guy speak and doesn't interrupt with nonsensical statements
@@l.a.wrecords6537 or about how many snipers he's already interviewed and somehow these interviews has given him special insight on a life he never lived?
Vlad interrupts -“See I have armed security you know, they also are trained to kill.”
Irving: I sh0t a man with a 50 caliber & turned him into jello
Vlad: my security killed a man with his bare hands
He's not talking to vlad
@@tyler1671 we know lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 no deadass
Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!! 😂😂
I so glad this dude did this GREAT INTERVIEW, vlad would of kept interrupted this man every 5 mins and make the interview somehow about him.
So true. Plus he would of said he was about to join the military too and become a sniper as well. Vlad good for that.
@@bfrank3027 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 so mfkn true brother truer words couldnt had been said. Vlad really is something
Vlads obsessed with the poverty stricken backgrounds of most rappers or to busy trying to get them to incriminate themselves smh if he had of interviewed nick it would’ve been the driest shit ever
Vlad would be like “Yea my buddy was actually a Green Beret sniper, he actually had 34 confirmed kills. I actually am the one that pushed him to enlist 🤓 “
Yea Vlads voice is annoying
As a former vet myself I think everyone is born with it as a human survival mode. The military just brings it out of you
You think so bruh
@@marcuscole1994 he probably means the flight vs fight. and no not everyone is born with the fight response.
Ok
@Marcus Moore I think so. Think how we're built as men. To provide and defend. You think it's bad now think about in the early days of life. I'm sure murder was no problem and a way of life like stepping on a ant. But we evolved and got civilized. That's why now when you hear "omg they massacred 20 ppl" because we're not used to that. It's been out our system for awhile (except for war). Thays just my 2 cents from a distance...bruh
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Tried to enlist in 1979 the army I could not pass the 👁🗨 eye test . 1982 I try to enlist in Marine Corp I failed the eye 👁🗨 test twice
When I took the psychological test for the Marine Corp
The question are very straightforward on pulling trigger on your enemy combatants no matter the race,sexual orientation,age etc
The question on religion very straightforward do you believe in God figure
The most important question was the protection of your fellow soldiers
I passed Alpha in all the test from mental,psychological,physical pushup
I flunked the eye 👁🗨 test twice
I told the Marine psychologist and Psychiatrist that want to an effective, efficient,dedicated Marine
I want to be a recon Marine and test my skills etc
I growup in the south hunting,fishing 🎣 etc
All human are capable of survival
I have family members who served in the armforces from world War one to the present
Jay thank you for sharing
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Nicholas Irving is being so candid, honest, and authentic. What he says is worth a listen.
Great interview so far. Interviewer asking all the right questions
The interviewer sucks, it’s the guest.
I got his book a couple years back and I highly recommend it👍🏻
Nick seems so incredibly humble and grounded, yet a completely open book. His poise is admirable.
The fact that’s he so low key and doesn’t stick out more then the average person. Which is absolutely mind boggling. There are straight up professional killers with ten fold the training and skill then the average person.
There was a neurological study done years ago with 2 sets of subjects. One were murderers and serial killers currently in prison and the other were ex-military that have several confirmed kills.
The study took a chemical sample and scan of the subjects along with verbal interviews. What was interesting beyond the verbal interviews is that the chemical brain makeup and scans of both test groups were pretty much identical.
There are individuals with a natural aptitude for taking a life and then there are those that can be developed into gaining the aptitude for taking a life.
One thing is for sure based on that study. Like an athlete or woodworker or a mechanic, taking a life could be and can become an art or skill for certain people.
"Clouds are just winds passing in front of the sun. The sun will shine again. Just give it time ☀️"........
So what is that chemical difference?
This guy is by far the best interview Vlad has had
Without Vlad too.
Not at all
...and vlad didnt even bring him on
Easily
@@vegashussle7416
Who do you think was better then? Just out of curiosity
You knocked it out the park on this one Mr Pérez. This interview is next level. My bad meant *Prez.
Prez, not perez...
@@kyleyoung7980 lol “So Nicholas you like killing or what homes?”
@@pab1381 lmao🤣🤣🤣
Read much?
I watched a interview of this guy this summer ... His story still amazes me
If it’s the same guy I’m thinking of.. He’s got a couple of books out too. I read two and enjoyed them. I believe his call sign was “reaper”?
Hope this dude gets some real help if needed. He controls and Carries himself real good but there are a few things you can pick up on that he can switch things on and off in his head like it’s nothing. Our ways with our vets have gotta better over the years but I’m sure we can still do a lot better for them when they are fully retired.
Your right, he has to be able to turn his emotions on and off or he might just loose it!
He's very stoic, but he probably has to be that way , as to cope.. But best believe killing human beings in the fashion that they do in the act of war..
After that no one could ever be the same , ever!!
As far as I know hes doing well. He is on Demolition Ranch channel all the time and is always up beat.
this interview is going to be an all time great on this channel
We need more Shawn Prez interviews!
I've met guys who been to war and had to kill and killers on the street. And they all change. The military guys usually resort to alcohol and the street dudes some kinda drug or alcohol. I only met one guy who served 15 years on a manslaughter that told me people always ask him how does he feel knowing he killed someone. He looked in my eyes and said I don't feel anything. And he meant it.
That guy must be a psychopath.
@@ngomaibinda he's actually a good person. You would never know unless he told you. It was actually self defense
@@carlosantana770 self defense is a lot different tho. Easy to rationalize..him or me
@@gsteel98 yeah that's what he said. Basically he was scared and feared for him and his friends life
There are killers on the street that don't need anything. I know one personally. Never addicted to drugs or alcohol.
"Are killers trained or born??"
"I would say born"
"So you were trained you weren't born to do this?"
Love to hear guys talk about these kinds of experiences 👏🏽
When he was about to say how he took care of his demons I thought he was gonna say therapy 😂 man said by getting intoxicated. I like this guy more and more
I understand him completely. Getting shot at and bombed sporadically, drinking and other means of losing yourself is a way I used cope with my experiences, overseas in the military. Therapy helps also, but alcohol is a ineffective quick fix.
@@boogieluv247 yup, and you feel twice as bad the next day…
Heroin works much better… lol. Until ya run out and ya dopesick of course.
@@dwightchaos9449 wow!😂
He might be the most self aware person I’ve ver heard. Very impressive. Thank you for your service.
I work in a field that requires me to be hands on at a morgue. I remember this dude came to pick up a kid. Turns out it was a baby. When i came back out the freezer with the baby in my hands and not on a stretcher he damn near passed out. He ain’t know what to do as I was trying to hand him the tiny white bag. Point is, you have to disassociate especially when it comes to death. The look and smell alone will make the toughest man or woman crack if they aren’t used to dealing!!
Oh damn!! You have a strong mind sir. Could not do that job at all. Had to pick up a cousin from the morgue and got there early. On getting in, the guys were putting in final touches on her and that ish took away all my emotions. I just kinda blanked out because I couldn't believe seeing her like a plastic doll and she'd been so full of life like a month ago. Don't even like to remember that ish. Stay up brother and praying God continues to give you mental fortitude.
@@mildmayheadless5217 that’s someone close to you sir. It’s easy to disassociate yourself from that when it’s someone you don’t know
Shawn doing a phenomenal job on this interview!
0:40
Interviewer: " Some people are born to do this and others are trained, which are you?"
Irving: "Honestly I would say born. I would say born, born to do it..."
Interviewer: "So you would say trained?"
Irving: O_o
bruh gave him the answer three times and he still got it wrong.
lol the guy is clearly an idiot. xD
Exactly, that was annoying .
😂😂😂
ok i'm glad i'm not the only one who realized. i thought i was tweaking
i think he thought he was saying bourne as in jason thats why he said trained
There is no rapper or street tough guy that you could interview that I would respect more than this guy! True American Hero!
American hero my ass
Lmaoo this your hero bro? Get a dad
There’s no value to being an American hero Grow up
For Americans maybe.
That statement was kinda ignorant. Why do ppl think soldiers are these super humans or something… They are human.. we are human not all soldiers got “it” I’m positive some random dude off the street can hang w the best of em. It’s something your born with. You either got “it” or you don’t simple as that. All the military does is prepare you for an ass whoopin.
So well spoken and calm but the fact is he is one of the scariest guys ever.. major respect for him
The body on the ceiling fan still haunts my subconscious more than any other horror film.....
Not gone lie Shawn Prez always delivers... he asked the hard hitting questions we all want to know but it always feels like a real genuine conversation and never an interrogation
The Army has some of the best serial killers.
That’s every military. The US may have the best though. Remember a strong military keeps your country safe.
@@EnduroDreaming Military technology and a very large budget.
Alot of hitmen were in the military but they dont tell you that its on the hush hush
@@EnduroDreaming having psychopaths isn’t “a strong military” … you need guys with actual hearts, not cold hearted killers..
@@TheBaBaTV fact
Man really good interview! He’s asking great questions!
I'm glad bro alive to Tel his story... thanks for your service💯
This is possibly the best interview on vLadtv
What he says about the training, say it helped but when getting shot at it, it goes out the window... is like when Mike Tyson poetically once said, everybody has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth... thats why you also heard Mr. Irving tell the story about the guy in the fettle position during a fire fight, his training went out the window and he was scared.
This is heartbreaking. I hope he can remain strong and clear headed and find some enjoyment in his remaining lifetime
Heartbreaking for who? Him, who killed innocent people? Or the people he killed? Lmao
@@marchfifth1754 coward energy
@@DRPHDjr Much like Nicholas Irving
@@marchfifth1754 you really think you can speak like that with those fruity playlists on your profile?
@@DRPHDjr Hell yeah
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, “There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter.”
@shawnprez you’re a dope interviewer man. Love hearing your questions and how you take care of the guests.
Maaaan, it's crazy when an interviewer asks a question, then actually lets the person answer. Or when they only interrupt with an important question, and only when the other person is done talking. How is it Shawn is a better interviewer than Vlad?
This interview is the reason why I joined Vlad TV. Great one.
Don't stay once this interview is over. Trust me
Every interview I've ever watched with Nick is captivating. He's a different breed. Nothing but respect.
Not really a different breed tho, there are 1000s of unsung heroes that haven't monetised their stories, shame Chris Kyle isn't still alive, that guy really was a different breed over 250 kills, 160 confirmed, no one even comes close, the film doesn't portray enough, 3 hour interview with him would of been legendary
@Baraket Andemicael there's always the one negative UA-cam commenter 😆
@@Adam-nv9zo not a really a negative comment tho buddy, just an observation of his body of work and your referencing of "different breed" go and check out navy seals special ops or even mossad special ops, that's some real shit
@Baraket Andemicael I'm very well versed in everything you just mentioned. Probably more so than you'd believe. That still doesn't change my mind about Nick Irving one bit.
“ would you say you’re more of a natural born killer or trained “
“Born “
“ so you’re more of a trained killer”
This is my 2nd interview of his but this one is way better for some reason. Shawn Prez is a dope interviewer.
Prez is such a great interviewer man.
Watch the full interview now as a VladTV UA-cam Member: ua-cam.com/channels/g7lal8IC-xPyKfgH4rdUcA.htmljoin
Ngl this is the first interview that made me click on the link and see how much a membership costs.
The most valuable question in this conversation is: Can they turn it off🤔🤔🤔
By far the best most epic interview on Vlad tv thus far. The interviewer is top tier great job!
If you are a natural born killer you wouldn't be getting bullied And your sense of empowerment wouldn't come after your 1st time shooting a gun. And also killing somebody With your bare hands up close and personal for a personal reason Is harder to cope with vs having permission because of your job title.
💯this is the only sane comment on this video
Wow this is a great interviewer asking just the right questions.
Nick is so awesome for explaining stuff and being 100
Best interview on this channel, by far
I've been debating on becoming a member just to watch this whole interview! Well done!
Just be patient, boy!
Excellent interview!!! now this is different and very much needed for people to hear.
I need to order his book asap!!
BY FAR THE BEST INTERVIEW 🎥
Amazing questions.. you did well this interview..thank you
The game is the game. He wasn’t out there killing civilians. The men he shot knew the rules and signed up for it. Just like he did.
Thank you for your service Nick and all you vets out there. I’ve seen the aftermath of what war can do to one’s psychological makeup. Its very hard to watch. I can’t even pretend to understand so I’ll stop rite here
I like this interviewer he got a creative mind with these questions
Best guy you all have had on HANDS DOWN, you the goat my dude! lol
The goat for what
Dude was perfect to interview him instead of GLAD
I once killed a wasp when I was 8. I became addicted to it and took out as many as I could that summer. 37!!
It soon became more addictive than fizzy cola bottle sweets!! I know where this dude is coming from. People that have taken lives understand!
HOORAH! You have to disassociate! GO ARMY!!!!
Every capacity is in all of us. God forbid you ever have to go down this path. You will never make it back to that point of origin again.
I’m enjoying this interview
It's so crazy, because it got to the point to where I didn't want to come back to the states. Some people will say that you never get used to that, but actually you do. Lack of sleep, outside the wire everyday, bullets firing over your head, mortars in the distance, IED's up ahead. That becomes your life in the sandbox. Instinctive, never scared because you know what to do if aggressed. I even got to the point where I didn't believe in God. I use to tell people, my 9 on my hip and my M4 is what's going to get me home!
God ain't real so you were on the right track
Shawn Prez is great interviewer man
Thank you for your service Mr. Irving
Y’all keep saying vlad should’ve done this interview. But what’s wrong with Shawn he’s letting him tell his story
Hell no, Shawn is the perfect guy for this interview 🙌 👏
I don’t know who “y’all” is, but have you forgotten we live in a society where mediocrity is embraced? Shawn is the best guys for interviews like this. If Shawn somehow managed the resources to have his own guests and own stage, I’d support it in a heartbeat because his skills are excellent.
This the best interview hands down.
Boy was on a GTA mission for real 💯🔫😔
We need more of these warrior’s stories. I know most don’t want to talk, but the interviews….
What's weird is how when a wight veteran speaks on war the vid gets a lot more views than a brotha breaking it down....🧐🧐🧐
Cap
Tf you talking. You hear all the folks praising this man like he did something special
Reminds me of one of my cousins who served in Iraq years ago, I didn't know him well but when he came back home he was different from how he was before, to the point where he'd tattoo himself with skulls representing lives that he's taken.
This is an example of the positive side of being a psychopath.
Yes Psychopathy has its benefits . I strongly believe to be successful in any profession in life, you have to have some of those psychopathic qualities in you.
But how do u know he’s a psychopath . He’s said he’s contemplated killing himself because of survivors guilt? Psychopaths don’t do that !!! They don’t care !!!
As a matter of fact I read psychopaths don’t feel depressed or anything us normal humans feel because that part of their brain doesnt work.
@@defreshh9961 there is a spectrum of all mental illnesses. We all fall on a certain level of all the personality disorders. He's definitely high on the psychopathic spectrum.
@@peacegod7337 oh yeah Forsure no doubt the dude falls on those personality traits! Yeah just wanted to let y’all know the difference . A full blown psychopath wouldn’t feel remorse , regret, or any of those feelings !!
Killing has to happen sometimes for the greater good in war, but when you start getting a rush and dopamine high off of it, you need to do self inventory
The real question is... did the US really have to go into Iraq/Afghanistan?
What did we really accomplish.
And no none of this has to do with the 'official narrative' that was all a lie.
See Pat Tillman
In “war on terror” what was the greater good.
@@christopherm202dcfinest2 I agree, my statement was more general
All wars are banker wars, fuck that, fight for the military industrial complex.
@@christopherm202dcfinest2 'war on terror'... i truly hope u don't believe that BS
We need FULL INTERVIEW NOW!!!!!
was waiting for the next one !
My uncle did 22 years, I asked him if he's killed anybody, he didn't even answer, which gave me my answer.
I think the rush comes from being able to kill LEGALLY ..
Salute to a real one.
Shawn def getting better with his interviews
1:54 “and yeah” he relived one of the kills
Bruh addicted to Call of Duty for real. 😂
LMFAOOO
You have to question life & logic on this topic. He says, "Killing Human Beings Gave Him A High" Wow!
Vlad is thinking to himself damn i should have interviewed him myself
not necessarily. Obviously vlads tryna step away so this only helps vlad
Vlad wishes that he could interview "Himself" 😒🙄
Irving: I sh0t a man with a 50 caliber & turned him into jello
Vlad: my security killed a man with his bare hands
I can’t wait for the full interview
They need to keep an eye on him
Shawn Perez the interviewer is really good by the way.
If you get a chance check out his audio book The Reaper . A very good listen
Definition of trigger happy. Get addicted to the power the gun gives you
This man's licking his lips while talking about being a natural born killer..
Savage!🥶💯
Ayo that's zesty. No man pose to look upon another man licking his lips. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 nothing savage bout that🤣🤣🤣🤣
Much love KING! A real HERO
a nation has a responsibility to the men it tasks to do jobs like this. the things he has done and seen. upon his soul. take care of these men.
Its sad they are sending kids to war like this. 18yrs old is way too young. That age should be lifted to 21yrs and older, when the person has experienced a bit more in life. At that age people don't know the consequences of their actions totally. Sad the brainwashing the military does to these men and women.
Been known of Nicholas from Demolition Ranch years ago
Yeah I seen that he couldn’t shoot shit😂
Damn, mind blowing great interview. I would love to know how the government handles snipers after their retiring from the military. With the level of secrets and deaths on their hands and hearts. I'm sure the government monitors their every move for the rest of their lives.
Instantly placed on watch list for FBI imagine how many politicians we could kill and get away with
Shawn: iiiiiiiiiii….(30 seconds later) understand you
😂😂😂😂
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