Who's the most HATED Smash character?

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  • @Poppt1
    @Poppt1  2 місяці тому +43

    I NEED YOUR HELP AGAIN! for an upcoming smash bros video I want to find the most and least popular smash bros characters to play AGAINST!
    please fill out this form to submit your answer - forms.gle/HLvgwWZT5wLzUaba8

    • @alexyalexers
      @alexyalexers 2 місяці тому +1

      Aight done, can’t wait to see the vid Poppt; keep up the good work!

    • @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569
      @drakejoshofficialyoutubech5569 2 місяці тому +1

      After filling out that form I realized that
      1) I legit haven't faced enough Snake players online to feel confident ranking him, which is crazy because that character is insanely good.
      2) I don't really enjoy playing against anyone lol. I didn't give out a single 5 and I gave two characters a 4, those being Doc and Sephiroth. I feel like part of it is because most characters in this game have something about them that is annoying. Also I'm just not the type of player to be happy about fighting a certain character, I get more excited to play a certain player if anything.

    • @PhillipMoore-td5yi
      @PhillipMoore-td5yi 2 місяці тому +1

      It was evil to click bait us by leaving the top ten out of the short and didn't even try to pretend it wasn't. That being said I am here and I filled out the form.

    • @_Stxrboy_
      @_Stxrboy_ 2 місяці тому +2

      Alright, Done! I filled out the Google doc

  • @elbeano888
    @elbeano888 2 місяці тому +623

    We need to see the "play against" version of this

    • @Knivess0
      @Knivess0 2 місяці тому +35

      This. Plenty of characters I don't play because I don't care to be that person I dislike playing against.

    • @Mathi-537
      @Mathi-537 2 місяці тому +6

      Yeah and then a comparison for who is the most liked + least disliked fighter

    • @Zlinkra
      @Zlinkra 2 місяці тому +6

      i feel like a lot of people took it like that considering some of the responses for olimar and sonic

    • @BenjaminBroom-n4r
      @BenjaminBroom-n4r 2 місяці тому

      I was about to say that

    • @nekoblue77
      @nekoblue77 2 місяці тому +1

      Might as well be a top 10 list only because there's like 10 characters that are actually fun to play against at all in a competitive environment, and only about half the roster is fun to play against in a casual environment lol and that's being generous.

  • @xraenon1664
    @xraenon1664 2 місяці тому +227

    In my eyes, the Sonic situation is probably the worst, simply because his optimal play style is a completely night and day with his personality. In his home series Sonic is cocky, in-your-face, hitting poses mid-combo, not an annoying little gremlin that pokes you a few times and then runs away. (His moveset also incredibly rushed and never substantially updated, but that’s an entire different story.)

    • @hedgehugs
      @hedgehugs 2 місяці тому +22

      tbf they definitely got people feeling what eggman does when you fight him in smash lmao

    • @ILikeCereal276
      @ILikeCereal276 2 місяці тому +4

      He was my main but then I tried more characters other than Sonic or Young link

    • @-fantalover404
      @-fantalover404 2 місяці тому +8

      Sonic is overhated

    • @AWater22
      @AWater22 2 місяці тому +2

      Well I’m pretty sure he does run away a lot in his games.
      He pretty much runs until he can find a good hit in boss battles.

    • @xraenon1664
      @xraenon1664 2 місяці тому +4

      @@AWater22 most of those high-speed boss fights are him running to _catch up_ to whatever thing is being thrown at him. Look at the fights in Sonic Colors, Unleashed, Frontiers… Sonic may be annoying, but doesn’t fight like a b*tch.

  • @blankgaming1215
    @blankgaming1215 2 місяці тому +303

    Richter is higher than Simon because he is hot as fuck.

    • @sherrdreamz7232
      @sherrdreamz7232 2 місяці тому +13

      I feel like much of the moveset fits Richter more since his more evasive burst options are exclusively from Richter in his game. Up-B and D-Tilt being core tools of Richter.

    • @owenisweirdo
      @owenisweirdo 2 місяці тому +2

      Real

    • @furryboi45
      @furryboi45 2 місяці тому +2

      Valid

    • @Chloeprettyoccasionally
      @Chloeprettyoccasionally 2 місяці тому +1

      Alright he's no Alucard 🤤

    • @vossboss220
      @vossboss220 2 місяці тому +1

      No lies detected

  • @Phil08eu
    @Phil08eu 2 місяці тому +195

    “People like playing DLC more than base game”
    Yes. Generally winning is more fun.

    • @postboy2242
      @postboy2242 2 місяці тому +4

      Joker in top 10? Yeah I like getting help for losing too

    • @blankgaming1215
      @blankgaming1215 2 місяці тому +21

      I disagree with this claim. I care more about HAVING FUN than winning. I'm not going to start playing min min because I lose with Mario because imo she is not fun. It's a video game and if all you care about is winning, I wouldn't want to know you at all.

    • @dragnjames2190
      @dragnjames2190 2 місяці тому +6

      Having only 12 characters instead of 74 tends to help too.

    • @user-it2kq4ty9q
      @user-it2kq4ty9q 2 місяці тому +1

      everyone hated fp2 except for pyra mythra at 12th

    • @furryboi45
      @furryboi45 2 місяці тому +2

      Sephiroth and hero bering the weight of being not instant win picks (hero is an iffy but you get my point)

  • @dahomie253
    @dahomie253 2 місяці тому +54

    3:43 wait i wrote that 😭🙏🏽

    • @marshy25
      @marshy25 2 місяці тому +2

      ...

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому +3

      @@marshy25He’s right. When I land a side special or up special, I’m left wondering how I’m supposed to continue the combo.

    • @marshy25
      @marshy25 2 місяці тому +1

      @@AGZhark nah I agree with the combo part. idk what I'm doing either. bayo was my least fav character. just the first thing he said bro about how she looks...

    • @karlhans6678
      @karlhans6678 Місяць тому

      lol mashers

  • @theardere
    @theardere 2 місяці тому +97

    I understand, why people dont like playing as ZSS, but learning conplex characters and optimizing them is so much fun.
    ZSS is cool and I stand by it

    • @Sticker_By_NCT_127
      @Sticker_By_NCT_127 2 місяці тому +6

      The same reasoning with Sheik for me

    • @r3tr0_l3g3ndftw
      @r3tr0_l3g3ndftw 2 місяці тому +8

      @@theardere I dislike ZSS mostly because im an Incineroar main and I can’t understand the sweet spot for the down b

    • @jerotoro2021
      @jerotoro2021 2 місяці тому +3

      I love wii fit because of those weird hitboxes, mastering her combos is really satsifying.

    • @theardere
      @theardere 2 місяці тому

      @@r3tr0_l3g3ndftw hahahah fair enough

    • @somedude4832
      @somedude4832 2 місяці тому +1

      There’s a lot of people that don’t want to or can’t put in the time

  • @capefry8323
    @capefry8323 2 місяці тому +35

    This list is a prime reminder of how competitive Smash Bros is FAR different from casual Smash Bros.

  • @Grape-san
    @Grape-san 2 місяці тому +68

    I'm comfortable with where Byleth is being #10, there's people where they like the character (that person being me) and those who may not like the character. Everyone has their own opinion about each and every character they either enjoy or don't enjoy but considering I've played and mained Byleth almost ever since they're been released, I really like the game style I have for them.

    • @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies
      @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies 2 місяці тому +3

      Considering I mostly like fighters with a fast playstyle, I'm surprised that I like Byleth as much as I do.

    • @frontier808
      @frontier808 Місяць тому +1

      Felt this, I mained Byleth even before MKLeo picked them up. I just find their moveset and balanced agility really sync well with my natural play style and what I look for in a character. Happy to seem them at number 10.

    • @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies
      @YoshiAteTooManyYoshiCookies Місяць тому

      @@frontier808 ah, you also have a Byleth PFP just like OP. That makes me the only one with a different PFP, I guess.

  • @789TurquoiseHeartBoi
    @789TurquoiseHeartBoi 2 місяці тому +46

    I'm glad Byleth is getting the recognition he deserves even when he was known as the most hated addition in smash bros history. His existence actually intrigued me to buy three houses and now it's one of my favourites games.
    Also my main Roy in number 6 let's go!
    In general, I think I just enjoy playing all of the fire emblem reps.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому +3

      I remember a friend of mine who loves FE, especially Three Houses, was really excited when I told her the new rep was from that game, but when I said it was Byleth, she went "oh WHATEVER!"

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому

      I’m just tired of people hating on the Fire Emblem universe, saying that there are too many “aNiMe SwOrDieS,” yes, they will call them “swordies.”

    • @kryticalhits7385
      @kryticalhits7385 2 місяці тому +1

      @@BJGvideosByleth is the least interesting part of their own game by a mile. They are a largely silent protagonist outside of crit one-liners and they are much less interesting than the other main characters and also the entire supporting cast.
      The other characters are really good though. They just had to pick Byleth because they couldn't show bias towards one faction.

    • @Lloyd-w3j
      @Lloyd-w3j 2 місяці тому

      @@789TurquoiseHeartBoi 1 man. MKLeo.

  • @photonic083
    @photonic083 2 місяці тому +18

    I honestly think the "visual appeal" the Bayonetta commenter was talking about are her trails on the punches, the spiraly effects on the kicks, and other such particle effects.

  • @JOe-ft7tj
    @JOe-ft7tj 2 місяці тому +9

    I'm Glad K. Rool was on here, hitting that back air spike with him is more satisfying than eating a delicious cake.

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому +2

      Yeah, top ten most hype characters

  • @GothamStudio
    @GothamStudio 2 місяці тому +23

    As a mii brawler main, im so glad theyre at 23rd. No one ever talks about them but i just love the combos and how i can just be anyone

    • @CuteRedPanda64
      @CuteRedPanda64 2 місяці тому +6

      Same it's the only character I get to be...mii

    • @AGamer_2010
      @AGamer_2010 2 місяці тому +3

      it's funny to chuck a ball in the face of the opponent (in-game, if it's not clear)

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому +1

      It’s a very cheesed character.

  • @Stuffy2763
    @Stuffy2763 2 місяці тому +18

    0:03 clearly the red rosalina is odyssey central.

    • @Levisworld9
      @Levisworld9 2 місяці тому +1

      True fact he LOVES Rosalina

    • @funtimefredboy2350
      @funtimefredboy2350 Місяць тому +1

      Im genuinely curious, does he hate rosalina because of smash bros? Or is there a deeper reasoning

    • @Stuffy2763
      @Stuffy2763 Місяць тому +1

      @@funtimefredboy2350 he says shes “Cringe” which I dont know what he means by that at ALL.

  • @asdqaz01
    @asdqaz01 2 місяці тому +54

    Interestingly, although people said "too many swordfighers", all the DLC swordfighers other than Sora are very high

    • @jerotoro2021
      @jerotoro2021 2 місяці тому +7

      They all have more creative movesets than just "swing sword", that's probably why.

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому

      People simply hate Fire Emblem because they assume it’s the same thing over and over, I’m assuming. Not me.

  • @themememaster423
    @themememaster423 2 місяці тому +40

    A lot of people think Falcon is lame now, but he’s still my favorite character across the series. Glad to see him so high up.

    • @shortesnameofalltime
      @shortesnameofalltime 2 місяці тому +2

      Competitively he’s kinda lame because he’s just one dimensional but when playing friendlies he’s just fun

  • @riqua27
    @riqua27 2 місяці тому +22

    If you think Bayonetta isn't campy you need to see Lima play. He revolutionized the Bayonetta ledge plank strategy. It's so bad even Kola called him out after losing the ledge plank strategy!!!

    • @kitsune6363
      @kitsune6363 Місяць тому

      That's Mk Leo's fault for getting Sakurai's to gut her

  • @BluerunnerZ
    @BluerunnerZ 2 місяці тому +102

    Least popular character is the character you used to main

  • @phermion
    @phermion 2 місяці тому +11

    It's also interesting to see that even the most popular character had people who hated them and the least popular had people who loved them. Ultimate having such an amazing variety of characters makes the game so much more fun since everyone can find someone they enjoy even if they are a top 1% DK hater like me :)

  • @centrixal
    @centrixal 2 місяці тому +15

    Simon vs Richter comes down to player psychology I think. For some reason Simon just attracts the worst of the worst sweaty camping you'll ever encounter.
    While Richter players still camp, they always go for more interesting plays and combo routes and just generally are much more proactive in their play-style.
    This is on averages of course, some regions I'm sure are full of the opposite, but this is what I've observed. After thinking about it and watching some replays I think its an interesting quirk of human psychology or something similar regardless.
    Edit: I'd love to see the same quiz with the question of least liking to play against rather than play as!

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому +1

      That's funny. I prefer Simon and I tend to get more in there rather than camp. Now Villager, that's a camping character!

    • @dominiquesnijders2655
      @dominiquesnijders2655 2 місяці тому

      As a Simon main i go completely against this sentiment. I play really aggressive with drag down nair and down air combos in close quarters, returning Cross to set up into Up Bs, down airs, nairs, etc.
      Also, hearing Richter say "Take this!" over and over is annoying whether i play AS or AGAINST him

  • @charl2182
    @charl2182 2 місяці тому +6

    You should have also done a rating for playing against characters. A lot of your observations around like characters being hated or disliked make less sense when we're considering playing as them rather than against them. Like at 8:00, people complaining about DLC are obviously coming at it from the perspective of playing against the DLC characters, not as them. So it's honestly not all that surprising that they ranked higher on average than the base game. I'm sure this statistic might look a lot different if we came at it from the opposite approach.

    • @randumo24
      @randumo24 22 дні тому

      I also think that a lot of that comes from simply parroting the opinions of popular content creators, which is a VERY bad way to form opinions since they will tend to just not like a particular character because their main is bad in the matchup.
      I mean, I remember the hate that got out of control for the supposed OP nature of Aegis because of Marrs for example. The character is good sure, but definitely nothing to complain about going up against.

  • @kokkonutt
    @kokkonutt 2 місяці тому +10

    All i want is for Sonic to have a new moveset. One of Frontiers' main selling points is the combat. There is literally no excuse if Smash 6 happens. Really, the only two moves that can stay are the Spin Dash and Homing Attack. Other than that? REMOVE ALL BALL MOVES!!

  • @Eonnor
    @Eonnor 2 місяці тому +4

    Great video dude, I really enjoyed this! I have always wanted Ganondorf to have a more unique moveset so he isn't heavy Captain Falcon, but seeing him in number 2 is going to make a new moveset super difficult for Nintendo to make. Trying to balance what makes him so fun and changing him completely would be difficult. If I were to change it, I would completely change Ganondorf, but keep the old moveset as a different character. I would say give it to Black Shadow, another character from F-Zero. Also, if you're ever up for it, a list of characters that are the least fun to play against would be cool too.

  • @kmikko8496
    @kmikko8496 2 місяці тому +43

    Video idea: Hold another survey with a ton of characters from other games and have people vote on who they would like to get in the next game the most!

    • @digbydog9505
      @digbydog9505 2 місяці тому +9

      Poppt would NOT put good characters into that survey

    • @kmikko8496
      @kmikko8496 2 місяці тому +1

      @@digbydog9505 surely he’d lookup some popular ones first

    • @digbydog9505
      @digbydog9505 2 місяці тому +5

      Have you been around the streams?
      You overestimate him.

    • @_Rodeo
      @_Rodeo 2 місяці тому +8

      Jordan’s list of “who do you want to join smash?”
      -Goku
      -Fortnite
      -Kanye West

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому +1

      I just want Terra Branford, Impa, and maybe Crono

  • @digbydog9505
    @digbydog9505 2 місяці тому +18

    Love Donkey Kong, please do a rework of him to actually give him Donkey Kong moves instead of making him just a Monkey

    • @FrenchOnionSoupMan
      @FrenchOnionSoupMan 2 місяці тому +5

      But monke

    • @digbydog9505
      @digbydog9505 2 місяці тому +3

      I want a Coconut Gun, DK Bongos, or anything. I love his move set, but i want some representation NOT from Smash 64
      Final smash is a nod to Donkey Kong Jungle Beat still so it can stay

  • @infernoboy7392
    @infernoboy7392 2 місяці тому +16

    People hate fire emblem, But they all did really well.
    Robin (62) being the lowest probably cause of resource management.
    But all the others are in like the top 35, really goes to show how they are actually pretty fun.

    • @gormflaith2326
      @gormflaith2326 2 місяці тому +5

      People love to complain about FE being overrepresented in Smash (and tbf even as a big fan of FE myself I would agree) but when the next game cuts a good chunk of them people are gonna be really upset. To their credit they've done good with differentiating them from Robin all the way to Byleth but maybe it'd be nice if there were less FE avatars in Smash overall

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому +2

      People just like to whine about Fire Emblem simply because it’s Fire Emblem.

    • @62swordsmen
      @62swordsmen 2 місяці тому +1

      ​@gormflaith2326 I will be honest as much as it is sad to admit, yeah it would be better if there were less avatars and more FE lords. (Though tbf, its not gonna be easy to pick them since 90% of them mainly uses swords and use a Rapier type weapon) but I would love to see them use other FE lords that are not sword focused like Ephraim, Hector, Edelgard, Dimitri, Claude or Micaiah. Part of me believes that Corrin and Robin are probably not gonna make it to the next Super Smash bros game (especially Lucina and Chrom as well) which is a shame to say as a Robin main, but it is rather obvious that the FE cast is definitely gonna be trimmed down by a lot next Smash bros game, with very likely Marth, Roy, Ike, and Byleth staying in the next game

    • @АртурЧугай
      @АртурЧугай 2 місяці тому

      ​@62swordsmen no way Roy stays over at least one awakening rep. He was removed once, he isn't untouchable, his game while pretty popular in Japan is nowhere near Awakenings level.

    • @62swordsmen
      @62swordsmen 2 місяці тому +1

      @user-eh1tv9pj2d Roy was literally brought back in Smash 4 as a DLC because of high demand and so many fans asked to bring him back. Whether if thats a one time thing from Nintendo or not, Roy has a high chance of coming back do to popularity and likely because he is a Smash bros veteran at this point. I guess that same argument can be made about Chrom and Lucina, but Roy is a GBA games rep and if they're gonna keep at least 1 Awakening character, Robin is the way to go, he is the most unique among the three of them as Chrom and Lucina are literally echoes. (But unfortunately for Robin, he didn't exactly get good reception, so in less Awakening gets a remake, I don't know if Nintendo will be inclined to keep him if very little is going to miss him and there is no awakening hype to keep him around)

  • @mercury2118
    @mercury2118 2 місяці тому +10

    They done Mega Man dirty 😢

    • @Isun-u1q
      @Isun-u1q 2 місяці тому +3

      And they called him campy to 😭

  • @O_double
    @O_double 2 місяці тому +9

    I’m an Olimar main and he’s a blast to play as 😅

    • @O_double
      @O_double 2 місяці тому

      I get it though, the learning curve before he’s fun can take a bit

    • @xanander4693
      @xanander4693 2 місяці тому

      He was much more fun in Brawl imo

  • @mangoletsgo-e3h
    @mangoletsgo-e3h 2 місяці тому +11

    Maybe the real most popular character is the friends we made along the way

  • @YnsomniacTypho
    @YnsomniacTypho 2 місяці тому +3

    You need to do the "play against" version and average it with the "play as" data, so we can actually see which characters are good, because great characters are the ones you have fun playing as or playing against. Some characters are fun to play but people hates to play against them so they may actually enjoy the game more if they weren't there.

  • @OrigamiAhsoka
    @OrigamiAhsoka 2 місяці тому +5

    It’s very cool seeing the playstyle differences, byleth is the *only* character in the top 10 I enjoy playing

  • @Diamond_Aura
    @Diamond_Aura 2 місяці тому +3

    What’s interesting about some of these is that with a few mechanics changes it would be a lot more bearable, even to fight the campy characters. Sonic in particular feels like not only should he get move changes, but probably some sort of “incentive” system where the more he lands hits in a short amount of time the stronger he gets (and weaker if he hasn’t landed hits in a while, meaning camping would get less good, encouraging more approaching). A mechanic like that could be applied to many characters but him in particular would benefit from it. Maybe make it so moves that reach far like projectiles or even Min Min’s arms or Sephiroth’s sword have lower values that “bring up” the multiplier of such a mechanic if it was universally applied, so that even characters *capable* of camping would be incentivized to still “get in” and do combos at close range if they want early kills or more damage.

  • @Goji01
    @Goji01 Місяць тому +2

    Putting Steve at number 63 is a crime
    Literally is the best character in the entire game

  • @jay-no9qq
    @jay-no9qq 2 місяці тому +2

    Bayo kind of got nerfed too much tbh. Her game-plan is literally try to do one or two big combos bring the opponent to 100% or so and start fishing for back air because that literally her only kill move. If you are lucky you can get a kill on the top with ending the combo with a f-air but most people at this point know to di away and down to avoid dying off the top. I enjoy playing as her until it comes to needing to actually kill lol

  • @SonicTheCutehog
    @SonicTheCutehog 2 місяці тому +23

    It also depends on the Smash game. Some characters are more hated in other Smash games.

    • @seanobrienplays688
      @seanobrienplays688 2 місяці тому +4

      This is specifically about Ultimate and those who filled out the form knew this.

    • @arcaderzzz22
      @arcaderzzz22 Місяць тому

      I hate Bowser and Wario in brawl because the final smashes don't do anything

    • @seanobrienplays688
      @seanobrienplays688 Місяць тому

      @@arcaderzzz22 They do, you control them like a normal character. It's the same way in Smash 4, so I don't know what you're talking about. (Also Little Mac in Smash 4)

    • @arcaderzzz22
      @arcaderzzz22 Місяць тому

      @@seanobrienplays688 you have clearly never used bowser in smash brawl

    • @seanobrienplays688
      @seanobrienplays688 Місяць тому

      @@arcaderzzz22 Yeah, but you also said Wario, from what I know, Wario-Man was a good final smash. But what do I know, my first game was four.

  • @SNoodleJuJu
    @SNoodleJuJu 2 місяці тому +2

    If this was a list of "Which character would I want to bury 7000 feet under the ground then blip away with the infinity stones", it would be Min Min. The single most unfun character in Smash history.
    Beating her feels like a game of luck, because there's almost nothing you can do about those damn arms, AND she has good close range tools. AND A REFLECTOR!!
    When a character can't even be out-camped, you've made a bad character.

  • @Wyatt_Brown
    @Wyatt_Brown 2 місяці тому +4

    Ganon and Ganondorf could/should be 2 completely different characters in the next smash game.
    Tears of the Kingdom Ganondorf
    Echoes of Wisdom Ganon (aka classic Ganon)

  • @Taktaagic
    @Taktaagic 2 місяці тому +6

    Seeing Corrin in an actually high up spot makes me so happy. People actually like my boi, I never thought I'd see the day

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому +1

      Sad that I’m agreeing with one of you.

  • @mikeshark8869
    @mikeshark8869 2 місяці тому +9

    Interesting that people voted so lowly for the campy characters yet that's all I seem to run into online

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, because ppl who main these characters like Min Min and Olimar make online players want to throw their heads through windows, so they’re hated

  • @kmikko8496
    @kmikko8496 2 місяці тому +2

    Really high quality video, I easily prefer this to random Elite Smash videos. Let’s hope others click on it too, this seems like one of those videos that the algorithm loves and gives a boost in views

  • @jxgalaxy3810
    @jxgalaxy3810 2 місяці тому +1

    This was a good video, but some of these tales are astonishing lmao. Thanks again hypest underdog aka mr going high aka ploppt1

  • @relo999
    @relo999 2 місяці тому +2

    I feel this has a very strong "I just played it a hand full of time" bias as well as a popularity bias. Granted I'm a former Olimar player currently playing ice climbers and Lucas.
    Also comparing DLC with base game only really compares playing as the character, not against it which is a rather important part of the game.

  • @awqweird
    @awqweird 2 місяці тому +1

    I do think there is a tiny flaw in the logic behind this in that when you have such a large cast such as ultimate you don't actually want to only make characters that are widely appealing and want to make characters with more specific niches also. Like I think there is a large enough base of olimar and bayo mains where I don't think those characters need that big or changes going into future games. The characters that need changed the most are the ones that are both unpopular widely but also don't have many people that main/favorite them at the same time.

  • @mopsik56
    @mopsik56 2 місяці тому +3

    I at least like what regular Link was ranked higher than other variants. Such a shame there are a lot of campers playing him, he is really fun if you're trying to combo for his full potential and not spam projectiles

  • @Colin-why
    @Colin-why 2 місяці тому +4

    can't wait for nintendo to get the study group out for this video

  • @SethRietdijk
    @SethRietdijk 2 місяці тому +2

    people complaining about learning combos that are not hard for being the sole reason of disliking a charecter while also having combo focused charecters like falcon and joker in the top 10

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому

      Oh well

  • @owenisweirdo
    @owenisweirdo 2 місяці тому +3

    I wish you talked more about characters in between

  • @ellznaga2199
    @ellznaga2199 2 місяці тому +2

    Fighter pass 2 have some of my favourites though pyra mythra, sephiroph, Steve. (I do like hero though)

  • @sophieheart2707
    @sophieheart2707 15 днів тому +1

    I know my main is sonic and I think sonic is my favourite but my least favourite is Ness because he is annoying because of spamming

  • @darc5925
    @darc5925 2 місяці тому +1

    Richter being higher is because of Symphony of the Night and he's hot.
    What i can gather is that a lot of people really like simplicity and a bit of mindless game plans. You see some of the more complex combo heavy characters like Sora Peach and Sheik on the lower end of this list while DK reigns on top.
    I don't think Bayo is as complicated as people think she is at least casually. Part of her design is think ahead and plan your positions then style and retreat. If it fails, bat within outta there.
    I said I like that she's a balance of complex enough to keep my mind jogging while simple enough I'm not giving myself carpal tunnel syndrome.
    I also like characters with feminine aesthetics
    A bit bold to say the best experience is only base game and fp1 only. If Sora and Sephiroth aren't there i would dropped the series immediately

  • @king-azp1202
    @king-azp1202 2 місяці тому +3

    As a Banjo and kazooie main I am surprised people hate banjo and kazooie, but as a banjo and kazooie main we have no purpose in society

    • @somedude4832
      @somedude4832 2 місяці тому +2

      People really hate characters that camp a lot and their kit doesn’t have a lot of satisfying moves to hit (subjective but I think people tend to agree with that). The highest character on the list who I consider to camp a lot is Palutena at #43 and she has a lot more fun moves than banjo imo

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому

      I’m surprised that you’re surprised. Must not be paying attention.

  • @Semiblurryloom
    @Semiblurryloom 2 місяці тому +2

    Comparing the average rating from DLC to the main game is inherently unfair just because one of them has eight times the amount of characters, so there's a lot more to pull from

  • @Blastsebb19
    @Blastsebb19 23 дні тому +1

    8:26 Banjo is being stepped on by Terry!

  • @thebananaspeedruns9275
    @thebananaspeedruns9275 2 місяці тому +2

    This can be redone in 2 ways, there is how fun is each character to fight against (outside of dittos), and there is how fun is each character in a ditto like Mario v Mario or Steve v Steve

  • @leowengler6501
    @leowengler6501 2 місяці тому +2

    The reverse of this vid would be rather interesting bc some characters wouldn’t move like dk, but some characters would find an entirely new place like pika

  • @juabenrodriguez9113
    @juabenrodriguez9113 Місяць тому +1

    I looked at the thumbnail and thought “nah, it’s Corrin, y’all are trippin”

  • @ink4798
    @ink4798 2 місяці тому +2

    I find it interesting that dedede was the only heavy not to make top 10. Although it actually makes sense. The rest of the list proved that everyone loves heavies and everyone hates campers and Dedede is a sort of heavy camper. Although with how high up he still is it seems that being a heavy is more important than being a camper

  • @J.H542
    @J.H542 2 місяці тому +3

    As a Bayo main, She is the most fun out of all the characters to play for me. People say she is hard to learn and she is but some of her basic combos do like 50 damage and she’s very rewarding if you learn how to use her. She also has some insane recovery and edge guarding.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому

      Yeah but it's that "if you learn" hurdle

    • @AGZhark
      @AGZhark 2 місяці тому

      Well, she is.

    • @crterjd8154
      @crterjd8154 2 місяці тому

      @@BJGvideosyeah, it’s called having skill. There is no way people trashed her in smash 4 yet when she’s leveled out and actually made to resemble her slasher, combo locked character in ultimate, she’s still trashed. Disliking a character because “their combos are just too hard…” is pretty bleak and stupid. It really shows how easy people want character mechanics to be for them😂

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому

      @@crterjd8154 There's already a high skill ceiling to master ANY character.

    • @crterjd8154
      @crterjd8154 2 місяці тому

      @@BJGvideos definitely not if she was in the BOTTOM 5 for her combos. The top 10 says it all. People want some easy mastery character who takes barely any skill, learning, and grasping of mechanics to actually win with. If the character is too hard to play against because the player who uses them is skillful, people complain. If the character is not skillful enough and people use them how they were made, people complain. If the character themselves TAKE SKILL and not just button mashing, people complain. They don’t want quality characters.

  • @jordandoerksen7771
    @jordandoerksen7771 2 місяці тому +1

    DaBuzz catching all the smoke is hilarious 😂 7:21

  • @thetruebiggestdon
    @thetruebiggestdon 2 місяці тому +2

    I got a feeling a certain man of the dong expanding variety might have voted more than once...

  • @thepieguyinthesky2363
    @thepieguyinthesky2363 2 місяці тому +3

    Funny enough, out of our friend group olimar is the "fuck it we ball" pick, cause for some reason, no matter who uses him, he will win in a reverse 3 stock, also, big monkey, my main!

  • @toadboy4
    @toadboy4 2 місяці тому +1

    Corrin, Byleth, and Ike are my top 3 characters to play, depending on how I feel at the moment, I am a Fire Emblem fan so that does influence it, but I love to hit Corrin’s combos, and Ike’s big moves, and Byleth kinda has a mix, and has great spacing as well

  • @shinoakuma406
    @shinoakuma406 Місяць тому +1

    I don't think that DLCs were to proven to be better with this. Saying a character is more fun to play as does not mean that they're not overpowered. Those are two completely separate categories. Saying Aegis is fun to play as doesn't mean they aren't extremely powerful, maybe a bit too much for a lot of other characters to compete with.

  • @beaksters
    @beaksters 2 місяці тому +1

    I like your final tag in your tags list.

  • @Brizzle427
    @Brizzle427 2 місяці тому +3

    Surprised to see so many heavies up top, personally hate playing slow characters.

    • @BJGvideos
      @BJGvideos 2 місяці тому +2

      I think that's the secret to Bowser's popularity. He's a heavy who's surprisingly speedy

  • @ramaicatseye
    @ramaicatseye 2 місяці тому +2

    enjoyed this video very much

  • @fart_master5992
    @fart_master5992 2 місяці тому +1

    good video! i miss playing smash i havent played in a couple years but your video made me wanna boot up the switch thank you poppt 1 😁

  • @toadboy4
    @toadboy4 2 місяці тому +1

    I think the next Smash game should have Black Shadow as the 2nd F-Zero character and use Ganondorf’s current move set, and then give Ganondorf a new move set

  • @phermion
    @phermion 2 місяці тому +1

    Super interesting video! I wonder how much these results would change if it was possible to sample the playerbase in a more neutral way

  • @TheAwesomJ
    @TheAwesomJ 2 місяці тому +4

    You should make a modded video where a character’s rating from this video determines their strength

  • @broadts
    @broadts 2 місяці тому +1

    I honestly believe that if you made a "fight against" version of this, DK would still be number 1 lmao

  • @tomemond6715
    @tomemond6715 2 місяці тому +1

    Loved the idea! Definitely do fight against next

  • @Necroblaze
    @Necroblaze Місяць тому +1

    I think minmin single handedly lowered fighter pass 2

  • @kaojb
    @kaojb 2 місяці тому +1

    editing was clean on this one Jazara

  • @skorz5114
    @skorz5114 2 місяці тому +2

    Two of my mains made Top 10

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому

      Same
      Byleth bowser and dk here
      And lucina and Pyra/Mythra almost made it which makes it cool

  • @poliwhirlking
    @poliwhirlking 15 днів тому +1

    Mega Man has one of the most game accurate move sets.

  • @seanobrienplays688
    @seanobrienplays688 2 місяці тому +2

    I play Wario, Plant and Young Link. I expected YL below Plant than Wario above him. But no, Wario was lower than YL and Plant above him.

  • @psyduck8025
    @psyduck8025 2 місяці тому +1

    As a bayonetta main i am shocked an appalled. She's literally the character i go to when i think "i want to have fun"

    • @psyduck8025
      @psyduck8025 2 місяці тому

      Lol all the heavy weights on top because wifi warriors. This list screams Reddit

    • @crterjd8154
      @crterjd8154 2 місяці тому +1

      You heard the damn reasonings as well. “Her combos are just so hard to learn…” “she’s too light” “I can’t get a good outcome from her combos.” These people HATED her in smash 4 (understandable to an extent) then proceeded to TRASH her despite being leveled out while still having a versatile and fun artillery. You can just tell which players avoid skillful characters for the easiest to use😭

  • @deevan1415
    @deevan1415 2 місяці тому

    Favorite: Mewtwo. I love how it levitates to move around and uses its psychic powers for its moves and even to hold items. Its final smash is my favorite as well. I even made a combo of using Down+B to stun your opponent, Side+B to spin them in the air and knock them to the ground, then Side/Down Smash to send them flying.
    Least Favorite: Villager. I prefer Neutral+B moves that are some type of projectile, charging, or active damage type of move. I've never liked the Down+B moves or other moves that are just counters. I've never had the reaction reflex for them. With Villager, I hit Neutral+B and, keep feeling like there's supposed to be a projectile there. Its Neutral+A attack feels too short-ranged and too weak even though it's supposed to be a quick punching attack. Its Down+B is a multi-step move that can't be used until the final step and you can use the ax or cut down the tree and hope it falls on an opponent. Its Side+B move, to me, feels underwhelming and can be countered by other opponents because Villiager telegraphs the move by jumping on the rocket beforehand.

  • @Alakrio
    @Alakrio 2 місяці тому +1

    “Despit the visual appeal” is crazy

  • @fuyudake9858
    @fuyudake9858 21 день тому

    This is so crazy to me. I’m a MinMin main, and I chose her because when I was starting out, she was the only character that felt both intuitive and right to me

  • @fiendfi7119
    @fiendfi7119 2 місяці тому +1

    hero is a great casual character but his competitive gameplan is pretty eh. he doesn't approach unless he has his buffs on and if you try to stop him, he'll throw one of his unreactable spells at you for 20%.

  • @toadboy4
    @toadboy4 2 місяці тому +1

    Olimar is my least favorite character to play as well, I hate playing him and playing against him, and he’s by far my lowest GSP character with 1.89 million

  • @Deibid38
    @Deibid38 2 місяці тому

    If you do a play against version of this, it could be interesting to track what character people main to see the effect that has on their opinion. For example, I like fighting Samus when I play Falco, but I like her way less as anyone else.

  • @Akira.2492
    @Akira.2492 2 місяці тому

    The quality of the edits in this video were amazing! You've really outdone yourself with this video, kept me hooked till the end with the results too. Keep doing vids like this!

  • @memesmcgee1611
    @memesmcgee1611 2 місяці тому +1

    Very happy to see the KI:U characters all decently high on the list makes my KI:U loving brain happy

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому

      KI:U?

    • @memesmcgee1611
      @memesmcgee1611 2 місяці тому

      @@Sketchios right should have elaborated, Kid Icarus: Uprising, so the game Pit, Dark Pit, and Palutena come from. I’m a very big fan of it and many people are not so kind about their places in Smash

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому

      @@memesmcgee1611 oh i see, yeah those guys are cool

  • @devius8788
    @devius8788 2 місяці тому

    Ayo I'm the first Bayonetta comment (3:36)
    Really nice video btw, nice to feel represented
    And wow the editor did an amazing work

  • @CanyouTheMan
    @CanyouTheMan 2 місяці тому +1

    You need to run a poll of what character is the worst to fight against.

    • @Sketchios
      @Sketchios 2 місяці тому +1

      Bro, do you even need to ask who would be at the bottom

  • @naturalonedungeonsanddragons
    @naturalonedungeonsanddragons 2 місяці тому +2

    Your insta-drop rest Jigglypuff Amiibo

  • @Lov-Atl
    @Lov-Atl 2 місяці тому

    There is a big difference between playing against vs playing as
    (Dabuz is innocent, dlc is not healthy for the game)
    Of course people will enjoy the EASY overpowered gimmick characters, the ease of the character being very important, since most base game gimmick characters are also the most hated
    Base game complex characters are tough to learn for mid reward, vs just learning how to use dlc for insured high reward (they are also way easier to learn in general)

  • @Theatrekid-tw6ze
    @Theatrekid-tw6ze 2 місяці тому

    Fun fact technically because there is more base game characters than dlc the averages are actually in the dlc’s favour as they need less characters above and below the 3.00 average compared to the base which has lots of characters which means it is pulled down more often than the dlc which thus means technically you can never truly know whether dlc or base characters are better

  • @Oblic008
    @Oblic008 2 місяці тому

    Not a statistician here, but a stats enthusiast. I just wanted to point out the the "3.00 vs. 2.92" comparison is, at the very least, incomplete, especially since they are so close. A t-test will tell you whether or not they are statistically significantly different.
    Also, even if the DLC were rated higher, I wouldn't be terribly surprised since they got WAAAAAAAY more testing love than the main roster. Also, also, we REALLY need to look at how fun/not fun they are to play against. I guarantee DLC would be way worse off.

  • @kevton1397
    @kevton1397 2 місяці тому

    6:36 Lucina in 17 is surprising to me cause I thought she would be lower considering how simple she is and how she's basically Marth that doesn't rely on tippers.
    Also I'm gonna guess that the reason why Fox (6:30) is in the top middle is because of how he's paper thin levels of fragile.
    Looking at this list gives me the thought that the lower tiers are more enjoyable to play than the top tiers.

  • @rocket8931
    @rocket8931 2 місяці тому +6

    7:38
    HOLD ON NOW POPPSTER! The Miis are base game characters too!
    You unlock one of every Mii in World of Light, meaning you don't have to create one yourself to play them. They are simply unlockable, just like most of the cast. They simply have a different way of unlocking them.

  • @samyoungs1630
    @samyoungs1630 2 місяці тому

    I like Incineroar most because he’s fun and I usually win as him, and I remember reading something in the tips section of the game that he’s the slowest so it made me feel like an underdog, and that I’m winning with a handicap, even though his very low speed doesn’t really matter.

  • @reeddeblock7856
    @reeddeblock7856 2 місяці тому +1

    Roy and Chrom are quite different, i don't know why they are lumped together.

  • @EthanTheGamer77
    @EthanTheGamer77 2 місяці тому +2

    Don't call me crazy but i thought the character on the thumbnail was perry the platypus and i had to do a double take

  • @wolfmand9641
    @wolfmand9641 2 місяці тому

    As a former Ganon main, I love playing as Sephiroth. He still relies on bait and punish but he has enough utility and mobility to work with most matchups.

  • @prodaniel1468
    @prodaniel1468 2 місяці тому

    Wow poppt has really stepped up the videos! Keep em coming

  • @Tiamat-sz5qi
    @Tiamat-sz5qi Місяць тому +1

    I would say I hate min-min the most because they took my 4 the favorite game and took my least favorite from the game and put her as the main character, and my 4th favorite character in it as the assist trophy… despite him being the mascot, I wish ninjaro won that tournament so he would make it into smash bros