Yup, and apparently, having a camera built in to even a laptop computer was groundbreaking then. They made such a big deal about it, "The world revolves around me!" as he spins around with his MacBook Pro. Not long later, you could do that with your iPhone.
Unfortunately one can only be a legend once they have already dead. For such reason, people should buy apple once they become antique… in 20 years of the future
@@goodchennelzPeople are hating for no reason, Apple is the biggest company on earth things change and move on and yet Apple still tries to integrite customer quality to its shows unlike other brands.
Now ic... probably during those times it was interesting to talk about those stuff so massively... it kind of looks funny right now... eg. the way he spoke about adding a webcam, as if it's something colossal...
I love Louis Vuitton, Andrew Carnegie, Борис Нудельман, John D. Rockefeller, Leonardo del Vecchio, Dietrich Mateschitz, Paul Allen, Liliane Bettencourt and Steve Jobs
I love watching these old keynotes because it's fascinating to remember what was impressive, what was new and what the limitations of technology were back in the day and how it's changed.
It’s insane to think that Intel-powered laptops were once considered the most energetically efficient machines in the world, and nowadays they’re far behind M1 and M2, and even some AMD Ryzen counterparts. It amazes me to watch these presentations and compare to what we have today.
Meteor Lake laptops are a great start for Intel in both power efficiency and increased battery life, but Intel in these categories is FAR behind Apple, AMD Ryzen, and Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite products.
Competition ruins everything . Now company’s don’t have the time to tell a story because 2 months later company’s like Huawei Samsung or Microsoft would copy that feature.
@@hilal_younus that's why steve jobs always mention they have patented their feature, so if there's another company that trying to do copycat, apple can sue them
@@armeniancrusader301 He's actually making it better as company, worse for consumers. He removed jack, sold airpod, dongles profit. Now it's more of make a problem, sell a solution to problem you just created. Before it was, How something new and creative we should bring?
Prateek Panwar but it’s kinda bad for those who are buying it , I think since the MacBook Pro 2016 and other MacBook versions released without any ports besides 2 or 4 thunderbolt 3 ports , I think the sales went down
Actually technology hasn't evolved much in terms of laptops. Today's laptops look almost the same and many of them come with thicker side bezels than this 13 years old MacBook. Plus CPU power hasn't increased that much either, yes we now have a few more cores in general, but 2C/4T laptops are still sold today.
The progress of technology is astonishing, just in 10 years we've seen a substantial jump on every aspect of computers you can think of. RIP Steve Jobs
JoshuaParkYeah its not even about the look. It’s the fact that it is a very humane design. If somebody tripped on your wire today, you are basically screwed.
I bought a MacBook Pro last summer, and I love it. I'd been reticent about replacing a desktop machine with a portable (also my first laptop), but for such a compact device it smokes.
It's not just cores but performance per core that matters, the phone cores are typically much slower than x86 cores. This 13 year old Core 2 Duo would still run a modern OS perfectly fine, which is pretty impressive. And dual core laptops are still sold today even.
@@Ifalvarado you don’t know how system management works. The architecture is only key if you have thing that need a fisc system vs risc that takes a large amount of coding to emulate.
@@9000888sora risc and cisc and mips whatever the fuck, won't compare if the actual cpu isn't pumping enough horsepower due to watts. For example, you can have 20 midgets and they will out perform a steriod monster because those midgets get their first taste of pussy
does it now have 4.5 performance or 4.8? It even has 10 fasts per volt and 8 awesomes per ampere. And don't forget songs per $, or was it sounds per notes?
I bet at least 75% of the people in that room have absolutely no idea what hes talking about, but I bet 100% of them bought this product. Marketing genius he is.
This may apply for the iphone or maybe the iPod as they are targeted to the general consumers but the Mac had a dedicated following of tech savy designers, content creators, and programmers I'm pretty sure a lot of them are a well informed bunch. At least this was so back then.
It didn’t have only advantages though.. I broke like 4 ou 5 of them with my previous notebooks because the cord was so easily breakable. I don’t how how are the USB C charger but I really don’t have good memories of MagSafe
I loved sit as well, but let’s not forget how much of a convenience dual side charging is and how much better battery life got in the recent years. I miss it too as some of the best innovation happened to notebooks, but the use case revolved away from this.
Epic_World Apple still has one of the best customer support systems of any company. They care about their customers because their customers make them money. Sure I’d agree that some of their decisions were with profit in mind, but every product has that idea in mind, it’s how business works. Apple just happens to be amazing it at. You might not like apple and you’re entitled to that, but they care about their customers because their customers pay their salaries.
I do like Apple, but I don't strongly agree with there recent business decisions that they are enforcing onto there customers. For example, the transition to USB-C, the removal of the magsafe. Just so they can have an increase of sales on there accessories and repairs. Theoretically, they could have given us the magsafe with there recent macbooks, but chose not to do so. A damage screen on new macbook pro would cost almost a 1000 dollars to repair, so instead of giving us a safety feature that would prevent, they decided to opt out of it, just because they would have increase profit margin.
I'm watching this on my m2 MacBook Air and it's crazy to see how much has changed but at the same time, the current Mac designs stay very true to the originals.
"It has a camera built in" Audience: *WOOOOOOO YEAH WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!* LMAO back when webcams in laptops were new and cool. Now it's all *"This new laptop has a camera built in".* Everyone: Meh.........Nothing new.
Watching this 18 years later on my M3 Pro MacBook Pro 16". It's amazing how much Jobs' intro on performance-per-Watt mimics pretty much exactly what Craig Federighi and Tim Cook said after they announced Apple would be switching to making their own CPUs. This is my very first MacBook ever, and I'm already a huge fan!
Where it all began, and how absolutely far we've come. It's insane that a webcam was worthy of applause in 2006, and not even 20 years later the iPhone is a supercomputer in comparison.
If they'd managed a PowerBook G5, Apple would still be PPC today. Despite IBM's supply problems (delays) and PPC being the main reason Macs were so incompatible, they would have stuck with PPC if a G5 was in a laptop. Who knows, the Cell chip (an IBM invention) could have been residing in a Power Mac if it had all gone differently...
This video was uploaded before the iPhone existed
Yup, and apparently, having a camera built in to even a laptop computer was groundbreaking then. They made such a big deal about it, "The world revolves around me!" as he spins around with his MacBook Pro. Not long later, you could do that with your iPhone.
Well, it existed, it just wasn't announced yet. That happened a year later.
Steve was a legend. His presentations were the best. Nowadays, it's just not the same.
True i was actually enjoying his older presentations vs the new virtual ones.
@@Inferno45 and now it’s all positive stuff and they never talk about their limitations or failures and kinda makes everything feel a bit fake.
Unfortunately one can only be a legend once they have already dead. For such reason, people should buy apple once they become antique… in 20 years of the future
@@goodchennelzPeople are hating for no reason, Apple is the biggest company on earth things change and move on and yet Apple still tries to integrite customer quality to its shows unlike other brands.
Now ic... probably during those times it was interesting to talk about those stuff so massively... it kind of looks funny right now... eg. the way he spoke about adding a webcam, as if it's something colossal...
It's amazing how far we've come in terms of specs in the last 3-4years.
What a relic of a comment
Damn 11 years ago…
12 years ago comment, hello i am from the future, we have 16 core cpu, gpu and 16gb ram right now.
Hey now macbooks have almost 64GB of ram and 2 TB of SSD
Jeff u alive???
IMO MagSafe is the greatest thing Apple has ever done.
Ben Rajan and took it away as well. sad!
حسن نور It’s less stupid than this comment though
It’s gone now
Followed closely by their glass trackpad... no other laptop can come close.
johan alink that showed the willingness to learn from every possible corner 😎
this was back when wwdc was fun to watch.
YES
Before everything got leaked months before
WWDC died with Steve Jobs. Apple is dying a slow death too.
J. P. The business analyst has spoken.
@Bitfrickler Stfu kid.
2000’s: “It has a camera!”
Crowd: Whooooooo
2019: “It has another camera!”
Ayyo, here's another one,
2000’s: “It has all the ports!”
Crowd: Whooooooo
2021: “It has only 2 ports...”
Crowd: Man f#$% this shit
I love Louis Vuitton, Andrew Carnegie, Борис Нудельман, John D. Rockefeller, Leonardo del Vecchio, Dietrich Mateschitz, Paul Allen, Liliane Bettencourt and Steve Jobs
@@rishaabhjaggi13362 ports?
I love watching these old keynotes because it's fascinating to remember what was impressive, what was new and what the limitations of technology were back in the day and how it's changed.
Me and you both
It’s insane to think that Intel-powered laptops were once considered the most energetically efficient machines in the world, and nowadays they’re far behind M1 and M2, and even some AMD Ryzen counterparts. It amazes me to watch these presentations and compare to what we have today.
Meteor Lake laptops are a great start for Intel in both power efficiency and increased battery life, but Intel in these categories is FAR behind Apple, AMD Ryzen, and Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite products.
gerp
yeah, but people now are so spoiled
Now we got 3 cameras just to zoom in and out.
JNS Studios Oh shut up
@@memethanYT he's not wrong tho
MASTERTVlogs because the gadget technology has been improved so much in specs and usage
It was fun back ij the day because he was telling a story. Now they just give facts that i can just read 2 months back on a tech site.
Spot on. I am always very disappointed after their keynotes nowadays.
Competition ruins everything . Now company’s don’t have the time to tell a story because 2 months later company’s like Huawei Samsung or Microsoft would copy that feature.
@@hilal_younus Or vice versa lol
Let's not talk about how apple is introducing features to ios that android had already for a decade
MTutoriales#2018情報 at least they waited a decade to copy it ... 😂
@@hilal_younus that's why steve jobs always mention they have patented their feature, so if there's another company that trying to do copycat, apple can sue them
One ☝️ more thing......
we miss you 😘 Steve
Yeah, Apple isn’t the same without him.
Yet Another Person it is worse without him
Karthik V yea and now Tim Cook just destroys apple
@@armeniancrusader301 He's actually making it better as company, worse for consumers. He removed jack, sold airpod, dongles profit. Now it's more of make a problem, sell a solution to problem you just created.
Before it was, How something new and creative we should bring?
Prateek Panwar but it’s kinda bad for those who are buying it , I think since the MacBook Pro 2016 and other MacBook versions released without any ports besides 2 or 4 thunderbolt 3 ports , I think the sales went down
Steve jobs really know how to reveal a product such a great being
well he was actually kinda an asshole but that's why I like him he wasn't afraid to be tuff
Oh there's Phil!
RIP MagSafe
Right :(
wtf happened to It :/
I never understood why take something that works and throw it away?
FlipnotePikachu “create a problem, sell a solution”
Even headphone jacks
2006- no
2007- no
2008-no
2009-no
2010-no
2011-no
2012-no
2013-no
2014-no
2015-no
2016-no
2017-no
2018-no
2019-Let's recommend it.
you clicked on it, so it basically was a good recommendation, so why are you complaining?
Please stop this Type of comments it's not funny anymore
@@fatih976 When was it funny?
Yes
This comment is played out..you failed at being funny
the crowd is always so funny haha
"introducing this new space bar in mate gray"
'WOOOOOOOOOOOYEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHWOOOO!!!!!'
Isacc Hernandez They were quiet as a mouse when he said "and look, it will cost you 2 thousand bucks!"
@@kriptonis With 512 megs of RAM!
appleharmedme.blogspot.com/2019/02/what-apple-did-to-your-iphone-ipad-and.html
I'm pretty sure they have planted crowd rousers in the audience. In theater they do it all the time.
Do you think Apple put plants in the crowd to drive reaction like WWF does?
When Steve coughed, I got sad.
Why?
@@nie_mam_pomyslow because he had cancer
I miss the time when Steve was there. It was just so authentic and refreshing. Now it’s like they’re just using his formula but there’s no life in it.
You're wrong. The notch is life.
@@absbi0000 I’d have to agree. Especially since it’s now 20% smaller. That’s a Win in my book.
I bought this version back in the day.. it was amazing with iLife that came later I think. Great memories.
Well the only person I like there now is craig
The best computer I have EVER used! Couldn't let it go for almost ten years even though I bought never macs later. Awesome computer, truly
Wow.. this was 10 years ago..
12...
14 years... (edit from the future in 2020)
12
13
13
That feeling when you realise this video was released right after the event, not like 10 years later
Time goes so fast
Who’s here in 2020 because of the UA-cam algorithm?
my fuckedmom is here in 2020 . bastard.
Nope, I looked this up.
Me
@Falcon who needs to get laid?
I’m here and after the M1 Macbooks were released.
watching this on my 6 core 12 thread macbook pro this is priceless. cant wait to see how technology has improved in another 10 years.
@Ozan Arayiz you're a moron lol
Actually technology hasn't evolved much in terms of laptops. Today's laptops look almost the same and many of them come with thicker side bezels than this 13 years old MacBook. Plus CPU power hasn't increased that much either, yes we now have a few more cores in general, but 2C/4T laptops are still sold today.
@@C3lloman again you don't know what you talking about, especially if you're using CPU core count to measure "CPU power".
256 core 512 thread 5 GHZ Apple processor. 2035
Yes
"It has the new ExpressCard slot, which is the new industry standard."
That definitely aged well.
@@cunnyman Heck, when it was actually a thing, I always looked at the flap and wondered "What is it actually for?"
Now they have LTE antennae in the iPads. I’m hoping they put a 5G antenna in the Apple Silicon MacBook Pro.
@@T-WaL No Apple won't do that. But they have already done that with the new M1 iPad Pro.
I had one of these like a few years ago, I have to say, it REALLY felt modern It didn't even feel like a 5 year old computer.
I know it is a different era when the audience started clapping at an integrated camera.
now we clap for laptops with fuckin notches
Why am i enjoying to watch this in 2019 even after iphone 11 is released ?
Dreaming In Japan because Steve jobs makes the best presentations
Kind of amusing the A13 chip in our iPhones will spank these several times over. 😉
“Thirteen years ago” carries so much weight.
I just love how he goes straight to the point instead of showing useless features during half an hour like they do now
Didn't MacBook come before MacBook Pro???
Oh hi
HOLY SHIT YOU WERE HERE??
@@paulhoeksema7200 Yes, and I know the answer to my old question, haha. The answer is: no. The MacBook Pro came first.
@@ComputerClan so are you ken? And did you own the channel from the start?
@@sriramsundar8388 Yes and yes.
I have this computer since 2007 and still works really good
If you ever want to sell contact through this comment:-)
The progress of technology is astonishing, just in 10 years we've seen a substantial jump on every aspect of computers you can think of. RIP Steve Jobs
Damn, 2006 was 12 years ago...
Now 14
@@m.d.m.a. Now 17
@@ivan.p758 lol
@@ivan.p758 now 18
This is so sad because now they removed that beautiful MagSafe!!
JoshuaParkYeah its not even about the look. It’s the fact that it is a very humane design. If somebody tripped on your wire today, you are basically screwed.
somthing apple could have done was that all thunderbolt ports have magsafe and the charger was also mag safe equipped.
It’s coming back with 2021 Macbook’s :)
İts come
@@baranicer geldi knk
I bought a MacBook Pro last summer, and I love it. I'd been reticent about replacing a desktop machine with a portable (also my first laptop), but for such a compact device it smokes.
I'm watching this after the release of 2016 macbook pro, which has no magsafe.
they also removed the glowing apple logo
I think the 2016 MBP is just too thin and light for the magnet lol.
Magsad:(
It’s back now
It’s insane how far technology as come, people are amazed by dual Core in a laptop now we have quad cores in the cheapest smart phones
Octa
It's not just cores but performance per core that matters, the phone cores are typically much slower than x86 cores. This 13 year old Core 2 Duo would still run a modern OS perfectly fine, which is pretty impressive. And dual core laptops are still sold today even.
I bet with an octa core in a phone, a 2006 dual core will still own it. Do not forget about archtecture too
@@Ifalvarado you don’t know how system management works. The architecture is only key if you have thing that need a fisc system vs risc that takes a large amount of coding to emulate.
@@9000888sora risc and cisc and mips whatever the fuck, won't compare if the actual cpu isn't pumping enough horsepower due to watts. For example, you can have 20 midgets and they will out perform a steriod monster because those midgets get their first taste of pussy
This guy never had a bad presentation , ever.
Look up the Motorola ROKR keynote. It was embarrassing and you can tell he was raging deep down
Steve would have been proud to see what Apple has done with performance per watt in M1 chips.
does it now have 4.5 performance or 4.8? It even has 10 fasts per volt and 8 awesomes per ampere. And don't forget songs per $, or was it sounds per notes?
I still use this machine in 2017 and it STILL works great. I love my magsafe. I can't believe the new MBP let it go....HUGE MISTAKE!!
Smufter16 buy the air
The best gaming GR which has poor display, low performance CPU+GPU...
Why does it called Magsafe?
I always thought it is calles macsafe
Noddor cause it works magnetically
It's a redundant port now, Johnny Ive doesn't do redundant. Redundant is for Windows computers.
I bet at least 75% of the people in that room have absolutely no idea what hes talking about, but I bet 100% of them bought this product. Marketing genius he is.
This may apply for the iphone or maybe the iPod as they are targeted to the general consumers but the Mac had a dedicated following of tech savy designers, content creators, and programmers I'm pretty sure a lot of them are a well informed bunch. At least this was so back then.
Mate its, WWDC, a worldwide DEVELOPERS confidence. Most people who go there know their shit.
Another dumbass apple hater
Wow, looking at those specs it is insane how far computers have come in just six years.
Now it's 16 years.
@@xerxes5592yeah, laptops, not to mention macbooks are so much better nowadays
17? @@xerxes5592
@@xerxes5592 Now 17
mag Safe power adapter is still an amazing technology to this day...
yea, it's all gangsta till the 2016 macbook pro kicks in.
Still have more port than the new retina macbook pro
Magsafe is the best thing that ever happened to notebooks and laptops ..😓
why apple why???
It didn’t have only advantages though..
I broke like 4 ou 5 of them with my previous notebooks because the cord was so easily breakable.
I don’t how how are the USB C charger but I really don’t have good memories of MagSafe
Poutchi usb from Apple Is just like the iPhone power cord. So worse than MagSafe.
I loved sit as well, but let’s not forget how much of a convenience dual side charging is and how much better battery life got in the recent years. I miss it too as some of the best innovation happened to notebooks, but the use case revolved away from this.
After watching this in 2019 am still saying "wow" on every feature. Love you sir jobs!❤️
i only have a macbook and its amazing, i can only imagine how amazing the pro is
Wooow what a relic of comment
4:10 You can feel the emotions of the crowds as they see the camera. Someone was even screaming: "CAMERA!"
imagine going back in time and screaming "build them on aluminium" BOOM
These Steve Jobs videos really need to be upscaled .. they are a gem
Where's Phil? I wonder where he is!
Most impressive part of this demo - no looped audio or feedback on Phil's mic.
It seems MagSafe safe keeps making a comeback even in 2022
I love the dude shouting about the camera in the audience at 4:08 before the rest of the crowd realizes it.
The time when pro actually meant PRO
What do you mean? The new MacBook Pro is still one hell of a machine. The Mac Pro is quite possible the most Pro product that Apple has ever made
Nick Jans oh yeah well compare that to other laptops and the only thing good is the OS and case
123 456 seriously? Best trackpad, Touch ID, T2 chip, Core i9 9980HK, up to 64GB RAM, 8TB (!) SSD. What more do you want in a powerbook?
Nick Jans and the *cough* Butterfly keyboard *cough*
TheShade247 there is no macbook with butterfly anymore
2:31 - Dual Processors in every MacBook Pro
Today: 6-Core+ Processors in every phone
Oh my, the world sure has changed.
He sells it so well he even has me interested in the old crusty products.
I came here after 2021 M1 macbook pro... Steve will be crazy about these new ones in regards performance by watt..
Back when Apple ACTUALLY cared about there customers
Epic_World Apple still has one of the best customer support systems of any company. They care about their customers because their customers make them money. Sure I’d agree that some of their decisions were with profit in mind, but every product has that idea in mind, it’s how business works. Apple just happens to be amazing it at. You might not like apple and you’re entitled to that, but they care about their customers because their customers pay their salaries.
I do like Apple, but I don't strongly agree with there recent business decisions that they are enforcing onto there customers. For example, the transition to USB-C, the removal of the magsafe. Just so they can have an increase of sales on there accessories and repairs. Theoretically, they could have given us the magsafe with there recent macbooks, but chose not to do so. A damage screen on new macbook pro would cost almost a 1000 dollars to repair, so instead of giving us a safety feature that would prevent, they decided to opt out of it, just because they would have increase profit margin.
razer has my favorite customer support in my opinion
their*
Now they just care about their stockholders.
Watching in 2023.. and still no one at apple can deliver a presentation like Steve Jobs did
2006 - magsafe was amazing.
2019 - eh. let's remove it
0:41 man, these keynotes had genuinely good humor!! Please bring back this style of keynote Apple!!! The COVID pre-recorded videos need to go.
MagSafe is back baby!
I'm watching this on my m2 MacBook Air and it's crazy to see how much has changed but at the same time, the current Mac designs stay very true to the originals.
I hope when they introduce Arm processors in MBPs, the keynote will be this lit.
14 years ago: MagSafe is for safety
2020: MagSafe it has no purpose but money and faster charging
Rest in peace Steve Jobs.....living life to the Macs :(
Wow he Was 10 Years Ahed of His Time! Thanks Sir for revolutionize the computer World!
2:42 when dual-core processors were considered two processors and Steve claimed the MacBook as a dual-processor laptop🤣
"It has a camera built in"
Audience: *WOOOOOOO YEAH WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!*
LMAO back when webcams in laptops were new and cool. Now it's all *"This new laptop has a camera built in".* Everyone: Meh.........Nothing new.
Probably it is the same camera until now
People owning a new MacBook Pro know what I mesn
"Us with having to fix them."
I love how honest Jobs was.
5:26 The World is revolving around me
Jevil: Nice, another challenger. Let me show you my true potential.
Phil can do anything!
Watching this 18 years later on my M3 Pro MacBook Pro 16". It's amazing how much Jobs' intro on performance-per-Watt mimics pretty much exactly what Craig Federighi and Tim Cook said after they announced Apple would be switching to making their own CPUs. This is my very first MacBook ever, and I'm already a huge fan!
I'm still using a mid 2007 MacBook Pro 15 inch as my main laptop in 2019.
That’s fine I’m using the new 2019 MacBook Pro 15
Jason Borunda cool
haveaniceday I also use an early 2015 13 inch MacBook Pro as well
Jason Borunda i’m in awe
haveaniceday oh and I also have a Lenovo z400 for additional productivity
That iSight camera was so good they’re still using the same one 14 years later 😅
theapplefreakk, he is not cured
Computer Clan :(
he died :(
1. Introduces MagSafe
2. Removes MagSafe from laptops
3. Introduces MagSafe on iPhone 12 series
2:42 lol dual cpu.....
whel its 2020 and still apple is selling with dual core cpus.
This UA-cam video is older than a lot of people watching 😮
Got my MacBook Pro a few days ago and I loved it ever since. Also cause of "Boot Camp" and "Parallels" of using Windows.
im not really a fan of apple products, but this looks cool and ahead of its time!
It has a camera... and just 2.5K Dollars. Wow.
Where it all began, and how absolutely far we've come. It's insane that a webcam was worthy of applause in 2006, and not even 20 years later the iPhone is a supercomputer in comparison.
i salute this person
That guy was meant to be in front of a stage, such a natural communicator and salesman 👌
For it's time, this was an incredible machine. Cute @ the audience getting so excited over dual cores though, hehe.
If they'd managed a PowerBook G5, Apple would still be PPC today.
Despite IBM's supply problems (delays) and PPC being the main reason Macs were so incompatible, they would have stuck with PPC if a G5 was in a laptop.
Who knows, the Cell chip (an IBM invention) could have been residing in a Power Mac if it had all gone differently...
If only Steve could see the M1/Pro/Max
I love this. Performance per Watt is the exact reason for the switch to Apple Silicon.
WOW A CORE DUO!!!!!!!!!!! *Crowd goes insane
@*MCPE* *McXreepeR* yea, just sounds funny lol
@*MCPE* *McXreepeR* considering we have 8 core processors now
@@EternalDetracting Not in laptops, in fact, Intel used to provide dual core i5's to laptops until recently.
0:09 Just say these 6 words to make everyone amped
I miss those laptops with their bowed out screens when closed
Watching this during the 2020 pandemic lockdown
R.i.p MagSafe :(
im so glad i bought a later model compared to this one. these are small time specs for such an expensive price tag compared to the mid-2010 i have.
Such a motivational and great innovative man
Actually pretty impressive of how this channel has suddenly grown this year out of the blues.
Anyone watching 12 years later? In 2019
It’s been 14 years we still use the same camera