Here we see Steve Jobs announcing that Apple will begin using Macs with Intel processors & that Mac OS X was being built for Intel since the beginning.
"I think a lot of you would like a G5 in your PowerBook, and we haven't been able to deliver that to you yet." Imagine this kind of transparency from Apple today.
Lowend plastic white and black macbooks had a portion of the handrest degrading and detaching, Apple eventually replaced them at no cost well beyond the warranty. Today's highend macbooks have keys detaching and glitching in other ways and apple doesn't give a shit and announces a $ 400 iPhone SE which is a 5 year old phone with upgraded processors. I really liked apple when it was the underdog.
Daniel Lim But It lived on in the xbox 360 as a tri-core monster, in the ps3 as the cell processor and in the wii. Ibm is still using their power-7 chip in server grade hardware. Anyway, I still use my G5, work really great with the software I have for it.
Sad audience clapping, but IBM/Toshiba almost killed SONY, and hopefully Apple avoided that sad end, better was let PowerPC die not Apple, since NeXT Step was compilet to many many different architectures. Core 2 Duos ULV series were and still are best processor they made 2006-2009. MacBook AIr was possible because of that transition. Apple was riding the best horse that's for sure. Intel is dying right now - end of their physical advantage - 10nm and further killed ability to compete with 7nm TSMC/AMD. Currenly Apple should switch at least in Mac's to AMD keep Intel in laptops then make transition to ARM keeping AMD in Macs. Im sure last year or this year Jobs would announce Apple switch to AMD Zen2 and Navi. Intel P4 struggled with Athlons 64 and PowerPC was still stong, but still IBM had no option with SOI to compete with intel's 90, 65nm, then 45nm HKMG 18 months advantage and Core architecture. Still big chalenge for AMD's RAM subsystem to beat Core's 45-64ns access time RAM. WIth PowerPC they begin to have at least 2-3x worse processors in efficiency and future as he shown would be disaster. It was Jobs good choice, and last moment to do so.
Pretty damn impressive that he claimed in 2005 that OS X sets Apple up 'for the next 20 years' - a very bold and unbelievable claim, and yet 14 years on, it's still going.
@@avakining Not really. His statement was on the general technology that OS X introduced, as it was a completely different OS from the "Classic" versions of the Mac OS (System 1.0 to Mac OS 9). iOS, iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS and, yes, macOS 11 still use the fundament laid with OS X, derived from NeXT.
@@themaritimegirl that's a stupid answer as AMD was putting the pentium 4's under the table at the time of the pentium 4's it just shows how old and not with the times apple was with tech improvements from the amd cpu's of the time were used to make the core line of cpu's which copied tech ideas from AMD to make them run faster and better like moving the memory controller on to the cpu for faster performance faster pipelines and best of all 64 bit
@@raven4k998 The switch was to Intel Processors, not AMD processors. Obviously Apple were going to go with the larger company. Also the Pentium 4 was already 64-bit at this time. Not that mattered, because the first Intel Macs used the Core series, and within months went to the 64-bit Core 2 series.
@@ADeeSHUPA Steve Jobs delivering the ARM transition he was more about putting as much power into the mac as possible and arm is not that powerful and starting to have heat issues
@@raven4k998 what heat issues? the m1 outperforms many intel macs and delivers that with less heat output and energy consumption than the intel macs ever did
@@bycuritiba apple had heat issues with there intel laptops if the m1 can overheat then trust me apple will find a way to make it happen so you have to buy another it's the apple way kind of like bendgate but with heat instead of bending lol and one easy way to make it overheat could be to increase it's clock speed and give it more power to run stable trust me higher speed mean more heat it's just physics for you
2005 Apple: We're shipping with Intel microprocessors because of their power consumption. Intel: Hell Yea! 2020 Apple: We're moving to ARM microprocessors because of their power consumption Intel: Et tu brute?
@@RabbitConfirmed apple's ARM processors are way more powerful than any others, and they're already beating lower-end Intel. So it won't be the same as Chromebooks.
It's not that they couldn't do it, it's just that IBM/Motorola couldn't make it work. The PowerPC G4 chips were already woefully under-powered and the G5 barely able to tow the line despite insane power consumption. It was clear that they couldn't make a G5 chip low power enough to run in a laptop. This was at a time when Intel could easily outperform a PowerPC G5 using a Core2Duo at a fraction of the power.
@@jblyon2 It's true, they couldn't, because the problem with the G5 / 970 is that it was based on a server CPU, the IBM Power 4, it wasn't designed with performance per watt in mind, ibm could have done something like what P.A. Semi did with the PA6T, a CPU with the PowerPC ISA focused on performance per watt, but they never did it. It's funny that Apple ended up buying P.A. Semi after switching to Intel.
Lol. Apple didn't change after Steve Jobs. They only lost a very charismatic sales Person. They sucked back then exactly as hard, as they do today. Steve Jobs only convinced people better, that they need the Crap they produce.
I think that with Jobs, a new "Pro" machine would be worthy of that moniker and the iOS GUI would not be a blurry mess. Jobs never compromised or let things slide. He controlled. Typography, design and differentiation across the product line were things he cared about.
Jobs was just the better Sales Person. Like they had with jobs also poorly crafted Macbooks, where Graphics Chips would simply die due to bad manufacturing. Or Screens tearing apart due to bad factoring. Often no refund or anything, although they screwed up, not the Customer. Or remember the iPhone 4? What a great product! Hold it like a fucking phone and you loose all connectivity. What was the error? Bad crafting? Bad placement of Antennas? Anything that has to do with how this thing was craftet? No, of course not, you where holding it wrong! According to jobs. It is just an illusion, that Apple was any better back then. He was a (for whatever reason) beloved Salesperson, that could really convince you that you need that product.
MetalheadBuser You are just repeating yourself without adding anything relevant to the topic. Saying that he was a salesperson is diminishing his contribution. A salesperson is an underling. Jobs was the very top dog. He drove the company forward, and his focus was _product_ _design_ . The problem is that when Jobs resigned, there was nobody to take on Job's job: he had been too arrogant to train any successors. The company has been too complacent because of its financial success. Therefore, we have seen bad design and bad product decisions in the last seven years, and not much new and interesting. The shoddy quality of some products throughout the years is an issue, but another issue. That is Tim Cook's domain and he should be fully blamed for that - both past and present problems.
Only someone like Steve could have delivered groundbreaking news like that so effortlessly. Maybe if he was behind the USB-C announcement,or the headphone jack removal announcement, it would have been so much smoother.
Yep - USB-C, headphone jack and the Apple watch would have all happened differently under Jobs. I expect that the watch would have had an ultra low power watch mode that would run for weeks or months just as a basic watch with date / time if the battery ran low.
@@TechRyze I think at the very least the first AW under Steve would have been more AW Ultra like. I have an Ultra and I can go a couple of days in between charges which is much more acceptable than being tethered to the wall every night.
Well actually they ended up making this transition much faster than what Jobs announced here. A year after this presentation they revealed the first Mac Pro which was the only mac that didn't had intel yet..
It's amazing watching this keynote and feeling like it is the 2020 announcement of the transition to Apple Silicon. The influence of Jobs is still present in Apple
Not really, since Jobs died, the company went down further and further, but since they'll make money anyways, they have no reason tontry and change that.
It was is if he had to get ready to make an announcement. Like taking a deep breath before going on a rant. I doubt he originally intended it but Steve was known to do things like this. I can’t believe I have to explain this.
It was nervous audience laughter in response to the classic Steve Jobs understatement.. as in "only 2 challenges! haha!". I was in the audience sitting next to a guy who had just completed a $50k program of work optimising his software for PowerPC. He was laughing in a kind of hysterical way right from the moment this began.
I am. Still shocked. Goobye Bootcamp and goodbye Windows/Linux running natively on Mac. And probably some developers are going to leave the platform. I'm excited too because of the benefits, but still.. not sure.
@@jsward96 They have already tried multiple times. Even if they move - 90% of Windows software will be lost by the move to ARM. The whole point of Windows is to have compatibility with x86 software. If they remove it - what's the point of Windows?
@@NomadicDmitry Why can't they make a dynamic binary translator like Apple did with Rosetta? When Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel, the Intel Macs could still run PowerPC software until Lion. They've said that a new version of Rosetta will facilitate the transition from Intel to ARM as well.
@@RabbitConfirmed don't get me wrong, my 2014 MBP also runs incredibly well but seeing a Pentium 4 with a spinning disk loading apps that blazingly quick makes me wonder if macOS couldn't be more refined and even faster at this point in time, specially considering Metal and the expertise of working with Intel for 15 years now.
The simple fact the Apple dares to have transitions like this even when their business model is perfectly successful proves how different they are from every other technology company in the world. Microsoft Sony and Samsung don’t tend to change things when it’s not broken, Apple refuses to ever believe somethings good enough and they always progress forward. Regardless of some weird mistakes throughout their journey and expensive premiums for their products this is why I’m along for the ride.
Still my favourite clip at 6:24, after revealing the presentation has been running on Intel, one developer looks enthralled and the other looks like Steve just ran his cat over, then reversed back over it.
@@gartblaum Man, people still believe that crap, all these years later ? As soon as ARM is scaled up to desktop/server grade it becomes essentially on par with modern x86 hardware, it's really not any better. If it was better, server hardware designers worldwide would've done it already en masse. The ARM instruction set is very old too by this point, almost 40 years. The real future is RISC V, everybody knows it at this point. It it does switch to ARM, Apple will only do it for a single reason, to control as much as possible the IP inside a computer, down to the CPU. They can even choose how much they need and where to contract the manufacturing to. You can't do that with Intel. They want a bigger portion of the CPU design roadmap in their hands, just like in the PowerPC days.
didn't he just show the g5 kicking the crap out of the intel cpu when he introduced the g5 and now switching over the intel? why does he not show the intel cpu holding it's own at least with the G5 doing what the G5 was doing to the intel cpu?
@@raven4k998that was in 2003. by the time apple shipped intel macs, they were dual-core, 64-bit, & could play multiple HD videos without dropping a frame.
The change from Power PC to Intel just nearly wrecked my job back in the day! Third-party software providers took 2 years to deal with the change. Old news, but wow - it was a serious mess back then.
And that it gave users more Power to tap on, too. :) Check out POWER9 and how they destroy even the latest Xeon & AMD processors in all 3 vectors: Raw performance, performance per watt & price. Not that the move wasn't justified back then: It wasn't clear when or if IBM was going to reach where they have today. Google Talos II by Raptor Computing / Engineering, btw.
only the g5 had heat issues. otherwise they were great for performance per watt. Their top performance competitiveness suffered once x86 went into a clockrate war with itself in 1998-99 and it never recovered. The last overly competetive PPC machine that Apple released was probably Blue and White.
amazing to watch a person present like he has the balls of one of the worlds largest companies casually in his hands while being so calm...the guy was a genius
I did several cars with ILLUSTRATOR and it all went well, circles no problem we started with wheel-bases and those are four tyres then we also made the interieur, we designed from outside to inside, thanks Steve for that experience, loved it. Kind Regards.
Not really. Although an Intel Pentium was used for the demo of this presentation, there was never a Mac using Pentium. In fact, they used Intel Core and Core 2 on their device. Refer to 3:00 , Steve Jobs said that they are looking for the future map of Intel (which they had already announce) which mean he was saying that Core and Core 2 CPU has a good power efficiency.
@@tsmc689 I don't think that you got a joke. I was writing about how none of the Pentium 4 chips were ever efficient. They were so horrible architecturally that Northwood variant got infamous for Northwood sudden death syndrome, from excessive rates of electromigration (excessive voltage and excessive heat output), causing chip internals from inside of it to migrate out of their places and pretty quickly wear down the chip on atomic scale. And as expected most Pentium 4s were very inneficient CPUs. Athlon 64 chips from AMD ran much cooler and needed less volts. It was so bad, that this level of failure was never again repeated in CPU industry. Not ever FX 9590 or i9 11900K ran so hot that their atoms literally migrated out of chips and made them die. Later revisions of Pentium 4 fixed electromigration problem, but they performed poorly, still needed high voltage and still had high heat output. Some idiot at Intel even decided to put two Pentium 4s onto same substrate and release that as Pentium D. Needless to say, it was no competitor for AMD's Athlon 64 X2 chips.
I think this is what separates successful companies from ones that will crumble. Unlike Motorola or IBM, Apple was forward thinking enough to push for change even when business was good- even with the risks that came along with it.
yeah my core duo mac runs hot, i got it in september of 2006. Even though it runs hot i still love this machine and work great in the winter months when i need to stay warm.
What set Steve Jobs era apart from everything else in the industry was Apple’s transparency back them. “We couldn’t deliver that to you yet” and “Our products are not as efficient as we wanted” are things we don’t hear from them anymore.
I don't see what was so surprising about OS X running on Intel since its inception - NeXTSTEP ran on Intel and SPARC, openly, when NeXT's own hardware failed to sell.
@@RedHairdo DR1 and DR2 (5.0 and 5.1) both had x86 versions. Rhapsody at that time was basically NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP with a Mac OS 8 interface stuck on top, with a few key classic Mac OS bits ported over, like QuickTime. By the time it was released to the public as "Mac OS X Server" (which still sported the Mac OS 8 interface), it only supported PowerPC. It later sort of got forked and evolved into OS X.
It's an Instruction Set as well, which defines compatibility. It's like AMD, Intel and in the past some others. They all use the X86-instruction set. XENON is also fully compatible with the PowerPC instruction set. The Power instruction set was the predecessor of the PowerPC, but PowerPC is not a pure extension and will not run all Power code natively, it misses some instructions.
Paianni From Windows 95 - 7 Microsoft was using the same foundation,OS is very hard to build and it's not impossible to make a hole new one every year , so the names are very, but it is all updates
@Aam Almarshidy : Paianni is right. Windows 95, 98 and ME had a completely different foundation to Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7. Also, why did you stop at 7? Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 are still based in the same NT core as Windows 2000, XP and Vista.
That's easy. Apple will continue insisting, year after year, that MacOS and iOS will not merge, right up until the year they announce the newly merged OS that has been in the works for years. They might also announce the return of Undead Steve Jobs as CEO.
For Hackintosh there are ways to get it on AMD, that requires kernel recompiling, and custom kexts however. They do not have AMD test machines in the company, so therefore there is no chance of a native build. Even though the basic x86_64 Assembly does not differ on these Architectures, EFI dropped the chance of AMD native happening.
If Mac OS X has always been made for Intel processors, I wonder if I could get my hands on those Intel versions from before 10.4. If Apple is generous and still has those builds lying around, I think it would be pretty fun to poke around with those Intel versions, maybe even install one on a Hackintosh.
Next week one random guy, "Who's here after Apple announced swithcing to ARM?"
oh shit you saw right through me
Look at this dude pulling a big brain move
Fact why we blew our minds with this comment : thus madlad predicted what we were gonna 6 days earlier !
@@albinjt1 theres been leaks about the arm transition mans not a mind reader
Big brain
No one delivers keynotes quite like he did. Genius.
Craig Federighi is close, but nobody can outdo Steve.
@@CaseySouthern Federighi is far away
Nacho Carretero Molero He’s the company, he’s the idea behind the company, he’s Steve Jobs. Nobody can replace him
One of a kind
@@alaeleo He's the company's 'why', the company's purpose... or he was... such as shame he was taken too soon.
"I think a lot of you would like a G5 in your PowerBook, and we haven't been able to deliver that to you yet." Imagine this kind of transparency from Apple today.
"I think a lot of you would like a keyboard on your laptop that doesn't die after 6 months..."
@@1337penguinman they admitted that the butterfly mechanism was bad and have transitioned back
@@UA-camPizzer In fact, they are fixing those keyboards for free as well as batteries
Lowend plastic white and black macbooks had a portion of the handrest degrading and detaching, Apple eventually replaced them at no cost well beyond the warranty. Today's highend macbooks have keys detaching and glitching in other ways and apple doesn't give a shit and announces a $ 400 iPhone SE which is a 5 year old phone with upgraded processors. I really liked apple when it was the underdog.
ok intel before......now intel is transition to amd.....what a innovation time........i feel like we are in a new age
So that's how PowerPC died... with thunderous applause.
Daniel Lim But It lived on in the xbox 360 as a tri-core monster, in the ps3 as the cell processor and in the wii. Ibm is still using their power-7 chip in server grade hardware. Anyway, I still use my G5, work really great with the software I have for it.
MrVitalic85 and then the Wii U, but no one bought one. PowerPC is pretty much dead in consumer products.
Sad audience clapping, but IBM/Toshiba almost killed SONY, and hopefully Apple avoided that sad end, better was let PowerPC die not Apple, since NeXT Step was compilet to many many different architectures. Core 2 Duos ULV series were and still are best processor they made 2006-2009. MacBook AIr was possible because of that transition. Apple was riding the best horse that's for sure. Intel is dying right now - end of their physical advantage - 10nm and further killed ability to compete with 7nm TSMC/AMD. Currenly Apple should switch at least in Mac's to AMD keep Intel in laptops then make transition to ARM keeping AMD in Macs. Im sure last year or this year Jobs would announce Apple switch to AMD Zen2 and Navi.
Intel P4 struggled with Athlons 64 and PowerPC was still stong, but still IBM had no option with SOI to compete with intel's 90, 65nm, then 45nm HKMG 18 months advantage and Core architecture. Still big chalenge for AMD's RAM subsystem to beat Core's 45-64ns access time RAM. WIth PowerPC they begin to have at least 2-3x worse processors in efficiency and future as he shown would be disaster. It was Jobs good choice, and last moment to do so.
Did NOT expect a ROTS reference in the comments.
The G5 chip was not very good. A lot of heat and power consumption.
Such a fluent storyteller....
i love that "why?" slide and the question, that was so good.
@@LacklusterOfficial yeah haha, it's almost like steve just making memes. Like "why tho"
Its Tru !
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+Wavwavcoco Back when Intel had a step in their logo.
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@@swecreations woah bro this comment is old asf
Right? Wtf
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Pretty damn impressive that he claimed in 2005 that OS X sets Apple up 'for the next 20 years' - a very bold and unbelievable claim, and yet 14 years on, it's still going.
OS X was launched in 2001, so it's going to be 20 years next year
@@rebane2001 he said "for the *next* 20 years"..
Aaaaaaand it’s dead. macOS Big Sur will be 11.0
@@aidan7913 Apple really does see the future
@@avakining Not really. His statement was on the general technology that OS X introduced, as it was a completely different OS from the "Classic" versions of the Mac OS (System 1.0 to Mac OS 9). iOS, iPadOS, watchOS, tvOS and, yes, macOS 11 still use the fundament laid with OS X, derived from NeXT.
The 2020 presentation was literally presented the same way. “The Mac has had 3 transitions”
I know right?
even the pipeline and two year transition.
The demo is literally the same on infos and photos.
The similarity is crazy.
@@TheAbleMo maybe deliberately
I would say they pretty much replicated Steve's approach. Without Steve's charm or showmanship.
It’s like he is having a conversation with us
is that a pentium 4 system shit why god why?
@@raven4k998 Because the Core series didn't exist yet.
@@themaritimegirl that's a stupid answer as AMD was putting the pentium 4's under the table at the time of the pentium 4's it just shows how old and not with the times apple was with tech improvements from the amd cpu's of the time were used to make the core line of cpu's which copied tech ideas from AMD to make them run faster and better like moving the memory controller on to the cpu for faster performance faster pipelines and best of all 64 bit
@@raven4k998 The switch was to Intel Processors, not AMD processors. Obviously Apple were going to go with the larger company.
Also the Pentium 4 was already 64-bit at this time. Not that mattered, because the first Intel Macs used the Core series, and within months went to the 64-bit Core 2 series.
Steve Jobs on OS X: "it set-up Apple for the next 20 years"
THAT WAS DAMN ACCURATE
And there's still no end in sight. OSX (now called macOS) will be around for another 10 years, at least.
Imagine Steve Jobs delivering the ARM transition
that's a joke right?
@@raven4k998 what joke
@@ADeeSHUPA Steve Jobs delivering the ARM transition he was more about putting as much power into the mac as possible and arm is not that powerful and starting to have heat issues
@@raven4k998 what heat issues? the m1 outperforms many intel macs and delivers that with less heat output and energy consumption than the intel macs ever did
@@bycuritiba apple had heat issues with there intel laptops if the m1 can overheat then trust me apple will find a way to make it happen so you have to buy another it's the apple way kind of like bendgate but with heat instead of bending lol and one easy way to make it overheat could be to increase it's clock speed and give it more power to run stable trust me higher speed mean more heat it's just physics for you
2005
Apple: We're shipping with Intel microprocessors because of their power consumption.
Intel: Hell Yea!
2020
Apple: We're moving to ARM microprocessors because of their power consumption
Intel: Et tu brute?
Apple processor from Motorolla 68000 (cisc) --> powerPC (risc) --> intel (cisc) --> Arm (risc)
ARM has major compatibility issues so it's not worth it honestly
Apple 2035: ARM -> RISC V
Power comsumption but with performance loss and much less instructions.
akshually - it performance per watt.
4th transition: x86 to ARM - 2020?
cant wait
it's going to kill the rest of the pc industry
@@NDakota79 "kill" yeah, like the chrome book killed the PC industry.
5th transition lol they moved from x86 to x64 with i think either lion or mountain lion
@@RabbitConfirmed apple's ARM processors are way more powerful than any others, and they're already beating lower-end Intel. So it won't be the same as Chromebooks.
7:18 iphoto in 2005 loads faster than photos in 2017
buy ssd
e.g. Cameras has more Megapixels ;-)
Files got larger...
+ Nastalas sure, more pixel and or with higher color depth (e.g. 16 bit dyn.) more bytes :-)
Not only that, i see the whole performance a bit better than my i7 16 gb 2010 imac :(
Back in the day when they admitted that they couldn't do something
It's not that they couldn't do it, it's just that IBM/Motorola couldn't make it work. The PowerPC G4 chips were already woefully under-powered and the G5 barely able to tow the line despite insane power consumption. It was clear that they couldn't make a G5 chip low power enough to run in a laptop. This was at a time when Intel could easily outperform a PowerPC G5 using a Core2Duo at a fraction of the power.
Apple's just too *courageous* now (whatever that means in the 1984 doublespeak dystopia Tim Apple's created).
To be fair, it was after years of customer complaints and only until they were ready to publicly drop PPC. Not unlike today.
@@jblyon2 It's true, they couldn't, because the problem with the G5 / 970 is that it was based on a server CPU, the IBM Power 4, it wasn't designed with performance per watt in mind, ibm could have done something like what P.A. Semi did with the PA6T, a CPU with the PowerPC ISA focused on performance per watt, but they never did it. It's funny that Apple ended up buying P.A. Semi after switching to Intel.
RIP Steve, wonder what Apple would be like today if he were still around.......
Steve Job would make shit that people actually give a shit about he wouldnt just slim down products.
Lol. Apple didn't change after Steve Jobs.
They only lost a very charismatic sales Person.
They sucked back then exactly as hard, as they do today. Steve Jobs only convinced people better, that they need the Crap they produce.
I think that with Jobs, a new "Pro" machine would be worthy of that moniker and the iOS GUI would not be a blurry mess.
Jobs never compromised or let things slide. He controlled. Typography, design and differentiation across the product line were things he cared about.
Jobs was just the better Sales Person.
Like they had with jobs also poorly crafted Macbooks, where Graphics Chips would simply die due to bad manufacturing. Or Screens tearing apart due to bad factoring. Often no refund or anything, although they screwed up, not the Customer. Or remember the iPhone 4? What a great product! Hold it like a fucking phone and you loose all connectivity. What was the error? Bad crafting? Bad placement of Antennas? Anything that has to do with how this thing was craftet? No, of course not, you where holding it wrong! According to jobs.
It is just an illusion, that Apple was any better back then. He was a (for whatever reason) beloved Salesperson, that could really convince you that you need that product.
MetalheadBuser You are just repeating yourself without adding anything relevant to the topic.
Saying that he was a salesperson is diminishing his contribution. A salesperson is an underling. Jobs was the very top dog. He drove the company forward, and his focus was _product_ _design_ .
The problem is that when Jobs resigned, there was nobody to take on Job's job: he had been too arrogant to train any successors. The company has been too complacent because of its financial success. Therefore, we have seen bad design and bad product decisions in the last seven years, and not much new and interesting.
The shoddy quality of some products throughout the years is an issue, but another issue. That is Tim Cook's domain and he should be fully blamed for that - both past and present problems.
Only someone like Steve could have delivered groundbreaking news like that so effortlessly. Maybe if he was behind the USB-C announcement,or the headphone jack removal announcement, it would have been so much smoother.
Yea, it would of been done differently.
Yep - USB-C, headphone jack and the Apple watch would have all happened differently under Jobs.
I expect that the watch would have had an ultra low power watch mode that would run for weeks or months just as a basic watch with date / time if the battery ran low.
@@TechRyze I think at the very least the first AW under Steve would have been more AW Ultra like. I have an Ultra and I can go a couple of days in between charges which is much more acceptable than being tethered to the wall every night.
I just watched WWDC2020 today, and now UA-cam recommended this to me.
I didn't watch it but youtube recommended it to me anyway
they should have done a smoother transition to usb-c...
disagree
Lol like what? Hide USB-C ports on their computers for the past 5 years :)
they could have included both USB-C and magsafe
IKR we should've had MagSafe and at least 1 USB 1 port
Well actually they ended up making this transition much faster than what Jobs announced here. A year after this presentation they revealed the first Mac Pro which was the only mac that didn't had intel yet..
Now I know why the WWDC 2020 keynote sounded so familiar
Steve has a HACKINTOSH! XD
Damien5497 Entertainment lol right
Well it wasn't a hackintosh if it was made by Apple ;)
If you are referring to the large silver desktop computer shown at 2:02, that is a PowerMac G5.
Yeah, they never made a Pentium Mac, they started with the Core series, with Solos and Xeons.
It's almost certainly the Developer Transition Kit, which was a P4 system in a G5 case.
15 years later. Say Goodbye to intel. I can remember watchtin thins keynote and later build my first hackintosh :)
Same here, I would screw around for hours trying to turn one of my old systems into a hacint0sh!
It's amazing watching this keynote and feeling like it is the 2020 announcement of the transition to Apple Silicon. The influence of Jobs is still present in Apple
Not really, since Jobs died, the company went down further and further, but since they'll make money anyways, they have no reason tontry and change that.
@@SkyyySihow so? They have the best laptops, tablets, watches and earbuds on the market.
Who’s here after the new ‘ARM’ Mac’s were announced!
Me!
Neil Degrasse Tyson lmao chill out dude
Who's here after they switched to ARM processors
no one
Me
Me
4:24 What is so funny about Jobs briefly drinking from a bottle of water before going on with his presentation that people started to laugh?
no one was laughing...
It was is if he had to get ready to make an announcement. Like taking a deep breath before going on a rant. I doubt he originally intended it but Steve was known to do things like this. I can’t believe I have to explain this.
It was nervous audience laughter in response to the classic Steve Jobs understatement.. as in "only 2 challenges! haha!". I was in the audience sitting next to a guy who had just completed a $50k program of work optimising his software for PowerPC. He was laughing in a kind of hysterical way right from the moment this began.
Filling silence. Intimidated. A combination of things. I thought it was super weird, too.
They are idiots
Here after their announcement of transition back to ARM...
OS X did set Apple up for the next 20 years! That’s wild
Tim Cook re-scripted this keynote at WWDC 2020.
Watching this after WWDC 2020. The similarities.
Who’s here from WWDC 2020 too?
I am. Still shocked. Goobye Bootcamp and goodbye Windows/Linux running natively on Mac.
And probably some developers are going to leave the platform. I'm excited too because of the benefits, but still.. not sure.
They planned it all out!
@@NomadicDmitry Not necessarily, Microsoft might move to ARM as well.
@@jsward96 They have already tried multiple times. Even if they move - 90% of Windows software will be lost by the move to ARM. The whole point of Windows is to have compatibility with x86 software. If they remove it - what's the point of Windows?
@@NomadicDmitry Why can't they make a dynamic binary translator like Apple did with Rosetta? When Apple switched from PowerPC to Intel, the Intel Macs could still run PowerPC software until Lion. They've said that a new version of Rosetta will facilitate the transition from Intel to ARM as well.
Anyone here after the ARM transition was announced?
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Jep 😬
yeah
It’s funny how they are doing the transition for the same reason. Processing power per watt.
Am here
Damn 8:00 that mac run smoother than my 2015 macbook pro!!
Yours can do much better: Make your Mac a Hackintosh with 10.4 or even 10.6 installed on it!
Dunno about you, but my nearly-identical 2014 runs like butter. Maybe it's just your machine?
Which version do you have? My 2015 15 inch Macbook Pro 2,5 Ghz runs just fine.
@@RabbitConfirmed don't get me wrong, my 2014 MBP also runs incredibly well but seeing a Pentium 4 with a spinning disk loading apps that blazingly quick makes me wonder if macOS couldn't be more refined and even faster at this point in time, specially considering Metal and the expertise of working with Intel for 15 years now.
Maybe you are a lоoser. My MacBook Pro 2015 runs very fast.
The simple fact the Apple dares to have transitions like this even when their business model is perfectly successful proves how different they are from every other technology company in the world. Microsoft Sony and Samsung don’t tend to change things when it’s not broken, Apple refuses to ever believe somethings good enough and they always progress forward. Regardless of some weird mistakes throughout their journey and expensive premiums for their products this is why I’m along for the ride.
It's not that hard when you have not even 10 percent of the desktop market.
this algorithm has a funny sense of humor
Yes it does
and now to Apple Sillicon..
Still my favourite clip at 6:24, after revealing the presentation has been running on Intel, one developer looks enthralled and the other looks like Steve just ran his cat over, then reversed back over it.
7:30 what are they laughing at?
I really wish they would put the magnetic power adapter back
finally the 4th transition we noticed today ! 2020 to 2021
The fourth transition will be from Intel chipsets to Apple's own chipsets. That would be really good for their computer line ups
will u still be able to run windows on apple's computers?
SuCKeRPunCH187 Windows on ARM should work...if Apple allows it ;)
@@jkelol111 what about 3rd party programs?? maybe emulator will be required, and it means the performance is not good...
And will be by the same reason: massively superior performance per watt value
@@gartblaum Man, people still believe that crap, all these years later ? As soon as ARM is scaled up to desktop/server grade it becomes essentially on par with modern x86 hardware, it's really not any better. If it was better, server hardware designers worldwide would've done it already en masse. The ARM instruction set is very old too by this point, almost 40 years. The real future is RISC V, everybody knows it at this point. It it does switch to ARM, Apple will only do it for a single reason, to control as much as possible the IP inside a computer, down to the CPU. They can even choose how much they need and where to contract the manufacturing to. You can't do that with Intel. They want a bigger portion of the CPU design roadmap in their hands, just like in the PowerPC days.
I like how he's trying to put on a serious face, but the viewers at home and in the audience can't help but chuckle.
Dude Steve used to talk with the force and focus of a god.
judging by how much he practiced the presentations (for months!) it was all hard work. i wish everyone put in as much hard work.
It's fun to see how the Apple Silicon/ARM switchover was very clearly modeled after how they did it back in 2005.
didn't he just show the g5 kicking the crap out of the intel cpu when he introduced the g5 and now switching over the intel?
why does he not show the intel cpu holding it's own at least with the G5 doing what the G5 was doing to the intel cpu?
@@raven4k998that was in 2003. by the time apple shipped intel macs, they were dual-core, 64-bit, & could play multiple HD videos without dropping a frame.
6:34 Holy crap that’s fast! Much faster than today’s hardware and software combined.
Operating systems tend to be that way when they aren't filled with spyware.
I saw this live in 2005 and I was flabbergasted by the announcement.
we all were...
Steve presented so well. Much better than the current.
The change from Power PC to Intel just nearly wrecked my job back in the day! Third-party software providers took 2 years to deal with the change. Old news, but wow - it was a serious mess back then.
Compatibility? Let's not talk about that, we've been compiling OSX on Intels!
The PowerPC was called PowerPC because it simply sucks too much power.
And that it gave users more Power to tap on, too. :) Check out POWER9 and how they destroy even the latest Xeon & AMD processors in all 3 vectors: Raw performance, performance per watt & price.
Not that the move wasn't justified back then: It wasn't clear when or if IBM was going to reach where they have today. Google Talos II by Raptor Computing / Engineering, btw.
only the g5 had heat issues. otherwise they were great for performance per watt. Their top performance competitiveness suffered once x86 went into a clockrate war with itself in 1998-99 and it never recovered. The last overly competetive PPC machine that Apple released was probably Blue and White.
@@RedHairdo POWER isn't the same as PowerPC. Similar architecture but way different uses and execution.
ppc 600 and 700 were much more efficient than P3/P4.
@@user-be5ko4wz8j Actually no, p3 was quite efficient. P4 was not so it needed like double the coreclock to be faster than P3.
When Cook ever talks about transiting to ARM based Macs or some type of iOS / Mac Hybrid, it will not be as good as the way Jobs would have said it.
Jobs may have said these things, but Cook was in the back leading the operation to make things happen.
@@TeachingYouExcel It won't be Cook, it will be Craig Federighi.
Yeah they really should have hired an actor to pretend to be Jobs and hidden his death.
One more Transitions.
amazing to watch a person present like he has the balls of one of the worlds largest companies casually in his hands while being so calm...the guy was a genius
Jobs: *drinks water*
Audience: HAHAHAHA
I’m presuming that the 4th transition going from Intel processors to Apple-design SOCs will be happening sometime in the next few years.
It happened.
Nah I don't think so
holy shit
This comment aged like fine wine.
I did several cars with ILLUSTRATOR and it all went well, circles no problem we started with wheel-bases and those are four tyres then we also made the interieur, we designed from outside to inside, thanks Steve for that experience, loved it. Kind Regards.
it's 2020 and Steve still causes me to just... watch a video of him speaking 14 years ago and realizing everything he spoke about... came about.
Steve's presentations were just great.
2020 mac os11 and Apple silicon 👍
Who's here after Apple switched from Intel?
Me!
MacOS
no one
I really did just get this in my recommended after apple announced their apple silicon
Nice timing for recommend this video UA-cam, thanks
Watching this video is like seeing a divorced couple's wedding photos...
Now: Fourth Transition... Intel to Apple silicon...
What’s incredible is looking back at this with the possible ARM transition coming up.
and now the transition to apple silicon, he would be proud.
He was right, OS X lasted almost 20 years. Let’s hope that ARM Macs will last for the next 20 years.
ayefries... That's what he was implying with his statement.
Power efficient Pentium 4, now that's something that I never heard of
Not really. Although an Intel Pentium was used for the demo of this presentation, there was never a Mac using Pentium. In fact, they used Intel Core and Core 2 on their device. Refer to 3:00 , Steve Jobs said that they are looking for the future map of Intel (which they had already announce) which mean he was saying that Core and Core 2 CPU has a good power efficiency.
@@tsmc689 I don't think that you got a joke. I was writing about how none of the Pentium 4 chips were ever efficient. They were so horrible architecturally that Northwood variant got infamous for Northwood sudden death syndrome, from excessive rates of electromigration (excessive voltage and excessive heat output), causing chip internals from inside of it to migrate out of their places and pretty quickly wear down the chip on atomic scale. And as expected most Pentium 4s were very inneficient CPUs. Athlon 64 chips from AMD ran much cooler and needed less volts. It was so bad, that this level of failure was never again repeated in CPU industry. Not ever FX 9590 or i9 11900K ran so hot that their atoms literally migrated out of chips and made them die. Later revisions of Pentium 4 fixed electromigration problem, but they performed poorly, still needed high voltage and still had high heat output. Some idiot at Intel even decided to put two Pentium 4s onto same substrate and release that as Pentium D. Needless to say, it was no competitor for AMD's Athlon 64 X2 chips.
@@MJ-uk6lu Yes. Pentium 4 was a terrible CPU......
I can't wait for Arm !!!!
they also ported the base of Mac OS 10.4 to ARMv6, for the iPhone/iPod Touch. Amazing how they did it w/out telling anyone what proc it used.
I think this is what separates successful companies from ones that will crumble. Unlike Motorola or IBM, Apple was forward thinking enough to push for change even when business was good- even with the risks that came along with it.
oh right changing to no headphone jack is sooooooo innovative, truly the bestest company
Who's here after WWDC 2020? After they transitioned again to Apple Silicon (ARM)
Franz Liszt Me
Transition IV - Steve to heaven.
yeah my core duo mac runs hot, i got it in september of 2006. Even though it runs hot i still love this machine and work great in the winter months when i need to stay warm.
Thanks for the recommendation UA-cam
7:00 this is how I use computers
What set Steve Jobs era apart from everything else in the industry was Apple’s transparency back them. “We couldn’t deliver that to you yet” and “Our products are not as efficient as we wanted” are things we don’t hear from them anymore.
I have never seen another salesman like him, it's honestly awe-inspiring.
And today, 15 years later, we had a very similar keynote, saying bye to Intel and hello to ARM based Macs.
1:25 yes we miss the old Intel logo
Now it's 2020, I am still very impressed by the vision of Steve Jobs back then.
Excellent video! This is a classic. :)
I don't see what was so surprising about OS X running on Intel since its inception - NeXTSTEP ran on Intel and SPARC, openly, when NeXT's own hardware failed to sell.
Yup. I believe the earliest version of Rhapsody also did.
It was surprising only because of the traditional rivalry between Mac and "Wintel".
@@RedHairdo DR1 and DR2 (5.0 and 5.1) both had x86 versions. Rhapsody at that time was basically NeXTSTEP/OPENSTEP with a Mac OS 8 interface stuck on top, with a few key classic Mac OS bits ported over, like QuickTime. By the time it was released to the public as "Mac OS X Server" (which still sported the Mac OS 8 interface), it only supported PowerPC. It later sort of got forked and evolved into OS X.
Came here after ARM transitions.
I like watching these video of Steve
Got this right after the switch to ARM during WWDC 2020
“Mac OS X has set Apple up for the next 20 years” ... **20 years later**... MacOS 11 big sur
They knew...
Who's here after Apple's about to ditch Intel lol?
@Maiahi Their own Apple A processors
@Maiahi no something to ARM-based processor like Snapdragon but their own
@Abhishek Harge
Both of them are based on arm architecture
@Martinus Gamer and compatibility with every program made since 1978
Who’s watching after the Intel to Apple Silicon transition?
VERY creative with the "and yes, it's true" part! haha
It's an Instruction Set as well, which defines compatibility. It's like AMD, Intel and in the past some others. They all use the X86-instruction set. XENON is also fully compatible with the PowerPC instruction set. The Power instruction set was the predecessor of the PowerPC, but PowerPC is not a pure extension and will not run all Power code natively, it misses some instructions.
OSX was slated to last around 20 years? I wonder what's coming next...
Paianni
From Windows 95 - 7 Microsoft was using the same foundation,OS is very hard to build and it's not impossible to make a hole new one every year , so the names are very, but it is all updates
I think you misinterpreted my comment.
BTW, the foundation for 95 (MS-DOS) and 7 (NT) are completely different.
Apple is still running OS X, it's just called macOS now. Next one will be macOS 11.0.0(something).
@Aam Almarshidy : Paianni is right. Windows 95, 98 and ME had a completely different foundation to Windows 2000, XP, Vista and 7. Also, why did you stop at 7? Windows 8, 8.1 and 10 are still based in the same NT core as Windows 2000, XP and Vista.
That's easy. Apple will continue insisting, year after year, that MacOS and iOS will not merge, right up until the year they announce the newly merged OS that has been in the works for years.
They might also announce the return of Undead Steve Jobs as CEO.
They completed the 3rd transition in just 210 days rather than 2 years ... Hope the same happens with ARMs too in the 4th transition ...
cool video thnx4 uploading!!
For Hackintosh there are ways to get it on AMD, that requires kernel recompiling, and custom kexts however. They do not have AMD test machines in the company, so therefore there is no chance of a native build. Even though the basic x86_64 Assembly does not differ on these Architectures, EFI dropped the chance of AMD native happening.
2:30 Apple Binoculars ;D
VR headset before VR?
MOS 6502 -> Motorola 68K -> IBM PPC -> Intel x86 -> Apple Silicon
unfortunate higher quality archives of these aren't out there
I miss when Apple was a true innovative technology company
@Nathaniel Smith competition is always good for consumer betterment
They still are
If Mac OS X has always been made for Intel processors, I wonder if I could get my hands on those Intel versions from before 10.4. If Apple is generous and still has those builds lying around, I think it would be pretty fun to poke around with those Intel versions, maybe even install one on a Hackintosh.
No one can do it like Steve.
this was uploaded before the iPhone even existed. wow.