I use dots of nail varnish or tippex to allow quick identification of the filters. My cpl has one single dot to indicate the position that gives strongest filtration so that I don't have to twiddle every time.
I've been using these Kase Wolverine magnetic filters for a long time now. I just love them! The optical quality is superb. I have now sold my Lee filter system. Some might worry about missing grad ND filters, but there is also a grad ND filter and a holder that allows the grad ND to be slid up or down, although to date the holder is only available as part of a kit (I'm told by Kase it should be available at some point.) One thing I would say about this system is that you have to be careful that the magnetic filters do not pop off when moving around. That has happened to me many times as I carry gear from one spot to another.
I’ve used an old trick from my Teaching music instrument days of nail polish. I use different colour polish and paint it onto the rings. Red is 3 stop, white is 6 and green is 10. It wears well and it’s what I had on hand. Just FYI, I used the different colours for teaching alternate clarinet fingering by dabbing the polish onto the left and right pinky keys. Stayed on for over 5 years of high school. One of the easiest things I ever did to help kids identify the alternate fingerings for certain passages.
Love my Kase filters. I store them in the little leather case that came with. And like Marcos and David said below, nail polish on the rims to distinguish the strength. Dollar store specials for bright colors is genius. I would have paid department store prices. Lol Thanks for your tips 👍
I have started using a Variable Fader ND2-ND400 Adjustable Neutral Density Lens filter. I did have one that had a CPL built in. So with my new Sigma lenses I have this one and a separate CPL. So far I like them, for brand is the K&F Concept Professional versions. So my point is I only carry two physical lens filters.
Hey, Adam, I have been using the KASE Wolverine filters for a year or so. I have them in both the 82mm and 77mm size. Overall I like them. But I have run into 2 issues. The first issue is that the lens caps and even the filters don’t hold on to the filter ring as much as I would like. Especially when stacked. They can be bumped off. And I do not recommend putting a CPL and ND on and then putting the filter cap on. I even find that the CPL and ND hold together better than they do to the ring. So when I try to remove the ND from the stack, the CPL comes with it. I need to get my fingernail between the CPL and the ND and separate them carefully if I want the CPL to remain on the ring and only remove the ND. Bottom line - do be careful. Especially if you are standing in a stream. (Don’t ask). Another issue is, If you are one of those people who tends to leave a CPL filter on your lens throughout a shoot or a hike then be careful. Third issue you mentioned - lens hoods. But remember that the square filter systems didn’t work with the typical lens hoods either. And I do find that if you don’t use the step up rings then you can use your lens caps. For example, I leave the KASE 77mm ring on my 24-105 lens all the time. (As a side note you may wonder why I have both the 77 and 82 set? Because when I started using these I didn’t have an 82mm lens. But I added one later so need to get the 82mm set).
I have had the same issues. Especially I can't trust the lens cap to stay on when paired with any other filter. In addition, I have had two other issues. One, don't leave the lens cap on with your CPL in your camera bag. The lens cap tends to fall off and I'm pretty sure that the lens cap scratched 2 CPLs. The other issue was my ND1000 filter just came apart into 3 pieces in the filter case. I wrote to Kase about it but they never responded. There are lots of upsides to the Kase filters but I seem to have had lots of downsides as well. I'm not sure I'll continue using them.
Adam, I really liked this review off the Filters as I am thinking about buying a set, I really liked the pros and con, but to me hearing you say that the quality was superb is really what I was hoping to hear. Thank you for the great advice I really appreciate it.
Great to hear! you might also want to look at the Kase revolution filters. Very simple to use and they now have a combo filter that is an ND and CPL in one filter. Come in ND8+CPL and ND64+CPL
Maven Filters have very similar features and each filter outer ring is a different color. I have used several filters in the past but I have had major issues with screw on adaptors that were almost impossible to remove. The Maven filters are the best I have ever used. Very compact and they come with a nice case. Of special interest for night shooting is a filter for yellow light from towns to clean up your Milky Way shots.
Thank you so much for leaving this comment. My B+W filter broke yesterday as I tried taking a photograph, and I’ve been looking to buy a new filter. I was attracted to the shockproof claims of Kase, and their magnetic abilities seem interesting as well. I didn’t know Maven had released filters, and reading your comment, I immediately google it and found out it’s really Michael the Maven’s own brand. They seem very nice, and I’m tempted to get them. How long have you have yours? Are those magnets good enough? Because I wouldn’t wanna lose them during a shoot if I bump into something. Please let me know when you get a chance! Thanks!
@@HaggenKennedy The build quality is very good. Magnets feel strong. I haven't had any reason to be concerned about a filter popping off. I have had them almost 3 months via a kickstarter campaign. I really like the storage container that was provided. I went with 82mm step up rings. Most of my lenses are 72 or 77mm with one 82mm lens. Recently I have been shooting mostly wildlife so I haven't used them very much. However in July I will be in the Rockies for a landscape trip and will be using them much more. The big selling point is the color of the rings. If I want a CPL, I know to pick the blue filter. 10 stop ND, grab the gold filter. A very simple concept. I am surprised it took so long to come up with idea. I also have the night sky filter. The last time I was deep in the Tetons shooting the Milky Way, there was a good deal of light coming from a town long way off. We were pretty high in the Tetons making the light more of a problem than it would have been in a lower elevation.
@@CoastGuy09 Thank you so much for getting back to me. I've spent the last 2 weeks researching filters, and I must say, the Maven filters have so far been my first choice for a new filter. I haven't bought them yet because I'm still researching. But I'll buy something by next month, and I'm thinking they are going to be it. I actually emailed them a bunch of questions, and they answered in less than 24 hours. Stellar consumer service, and off to a great start. Plus, I'd like to support Michael, actually. He's an actual photographer and offers a great product. Anyway, thanks so much for letting me know your thoughts on his company's filters. Pretty sure by next month that's what I'll have in my camera bag. I really appreciate you writing that first comment, and then replying to me today. Thanks, man!
Thanks for a good review and thoughts. Excellent idea about colour coding. I found with the Kase filters that the filter cap seams to come off too easily. When lifting my camera out of the bag, most times I would find it at the bottom. Th magnetism isn’t strong enough in my opinion. The filters themselves are very good. I am using the Freewell system for that reason. Cap stays on better.
Great video as usual Adam, very instructive and I have to say that I love the way you always present your images first raw and then processed. It seems that they have listened to you at Kase, I've seen that they have recently presented anodized filters to help identifying them quicker.
Forgot to mention, Kase have just released a magnetic 82mm lens hood. Adjustable to 4 lengths! Already listed at B&H. Pleased to see btw that you have no issues using filters on the Fuji 23mm. Have the lens (and GFX100S) on order but had heard from some that there were issues using circular filters on that lens.
Magnetic filters are a game changer. I’ll never go back to faffing around with a square system again. Anodising them is a great idea. I hope they do that soon. 👍🦘🇦🇺
14:06 to give you a tip here... you can use some color nail polish and paint the side of the filters (maybe just a spot, not all around) with the colours you like per filter value....
The issue with all these filter systems is that all the filters and step-up rings you buy for your current biggest lens suddenly become obsolete when your next lens requires an even bigger filter. (Back in the day, you could get a set of Nikon primes from 24mm to 200mm and they all took 52mm filters. Just does not happen anymore.)
Great review, color coding great idea. I use a dot of fingernail polish on keys and locks. Maybe a dot of polish on the ring would work. I use the Nisi filter system, great results but it is a hassle. You got me thinking that maggots might be the way to go.
Hi Adam , I am following you for a long time , many thanks to your always tips . I have the same issue when chosing and picking up a filter . Your suggestion having different colors are excellent , I personally use whar the women use on nails and put colors on the filter ring . All the best to you and many thanks again , from Lisbon Marcos
I'm a happy Kase Wolverine user. I opted for the k9 kit and 100mm ND with 90mm CPL, magnetic too. I agree with other posters for color coding; nail polish or good metallic ink pens, Sharpie would wear off to quickly and not be as bright.
Love my Kase filters but have accidentally bumped them when changing location and had them fall off . Thankfully I was able to find them again and they survived without a scratch.
Yes they are prone to that. And Kase do not seem sympathetic to this at all they offered me a small discount on a £25.00 filter cap that I lost on the first time out. I now use FREEWELL goodbye to Kase forever.
Loved the environment and thought all your shots were great in this session. The one I loved for it's soft surprise was the first(?) one where the ND filter allowed enough time to turn the frontal surf into lovely cloudy mist - beautiful. Yes, I too use the Kase magnetic system and familiar w/ all your mentioned traits, and thought YES! DIFFERENT COLORS.
I had these filters for almost a year and I'm not blown away by them. I'm was surprised because all the reviews I read are positive, even from guys like Adam, who used many professional filters so they know what they're talking about. They are my first “real” filters and I can see a slight color cast with the 6 stop and a little bigger with the 10 stop, the 3 stop is fine. Sometimes it seems like the color cast is not even. I tried correcting it on high saturation with temperature and tint to match the image without filter, but the part of the image always seems a little bit off. I could never get the colors to 100% match the normal exposure with 6 and 10 stop. The color temp is a little different but there also seems to be less color contrast and micro contrast in certain situations. Might be affected when shooting into the sun etc. Also, I get this weird darkening of part of the frame when I use a 6 or a 10 stop with the CPL. The effect is different when I put the ND and CPL in opposite order, so the order must have an effect on this, but it's less convenient to use it that way. Again I see no one mentioning this thing. With this happening I want to use the high ND exposure only for the blurred part like water and mask in the other sharp parts from the other exposure without the ND. I don't think one should be complicating his life like this with quality filters…That's why I'm surprised when all these pros say there is no color cast etc. when even I want to blend exposures because I don't like the look with the filters on. But like I said these are my first real filters so maybe I was expecting too much and I'm too critical. Could this be a quality control issue? Someone experienced this?
I take a green, yellow, and red enamel (Testors brand) pens around the ring of my kase filters. green for 3 stops, yellow for 6 stops , red for 10 stops and leave the black for my polarizer. Not perfect but it helps me out because I typically stack them and put them in my pocket.
i use KASE K9 system and love it, that colour coded anodized idea is brilliant i guess that's why you win awards :), had to put down my copy of chasing awe to type this.
good idea of yours to anodise the metal part of a filter with different colours to help with identifying the filter type. I could see a range of ND's being coloured from black to light grey for example & maybe a deep blue for polariser. There maybe one issue with that though, lighter/brighter coloured rings might cause reflections or colour casts if the colour in on the inside or lens side of the filter holder, so they might need those surfaces to be matt black & just the outer & front (surface pointing away from camera) to be coloured, & that increases the manufacturing difficulty level somewhat - not impossible, but maybe just adds to the cost.
Not trying to be a smart ass but u could put your own marking system on the filters to make things easier.I use KASE love the system and did just that to make life easier.Thnx for the vid love your work
Thanks Adam, glad to see you back. I've been using the Kase filters for about 4 months now and really impressed how easy. By the time you add up filters, step up rings and caps, it's not any savings from other top filter systems, but it's the ease of use and how fast you can work with them that I like. BTW - getting a number of compliments on your 'light' t-shirt I ordered!
I've used Nisi and PolarPro filters. The PolarPro are well marked, if bulky so no issues finding an ND64 vs an ND1000 for instance, and the Nisi come with compact cases that are also well marked. That said, your suggestion to colour code filters seems a good one.
I'm a bit jealous of your Shimoda filter wrap. I want one but they appear to be sold out at the moment! Just got the new Shimoda Explorer v2 bag. Now I see why you like them so much. Finally a "perfect" camera backpack after 3 fails! Cheers Adam!
I find a you get a heavy vignette when shooting wide (especially when stacking filters) but other than that i love these filters, mainly for their portability.
Another informative vid. I do like the Breakthrough CPL/ND combination filter. I've also had some experience using PolarPro filters. Although a single filter has a neutral color cast, combining/stacking a PolarPro ND with their CPL causes a strong color cast that requires adjustment. Nisi filters (100mm) have a neutral cast no matter how they are combined. One interesting note about Kase magnetic filters. An acquittance was recently hiking over a creek, bumped the camera and we watched as the magnetic lens cap go for a swim. It was retrieved via a deep dive, providing a cautionary tale about securing the filters to the camera. BTW, Kase has some great astro filters as well.
That would be so nice for the rings to be anodized.... I have the in camera sensors by kase. I can never tell between my UV and Night filter while I'm out at night, would make a huge difference to have colored filter surrounds.
I just got my Kase filters last week and they're great. Love the magnetic system. So easy to use and they're incredibly thin. Like the paint dab idea. Can't figure out why I didn't think of that since I do something similar with my lenses. The little red dots to indicate lens mounting point on my lenses are always difficult to see when it's dark. I paint on a white dot so easier at night. Btw, love your channel.
I've got the same issue with filters ... not being able to read the bloody ring around the rim without my glasses! I guess the filter companies just assume photographers aren't blind as bats! 🤓 Looking forward to the '22 calendar!
They are a good filter system. Neutral resistant etc, but the grip around this system IMO could be improved for handling. I struggle a bit with my magnetic kit
I'm an ambassador for KASE so I can only really comment on the KASE filters as I've never used the Frewell. So far the KASE have been excellent filters.
Very nice material... I also have a Kase Wolverine kit that I am very pleased with. Tell me, please, where exactly is this wonderful beach? And of course, +1subs!
adam when you have a cpl and say the 10 stop filter on together is there any vignetting when you use your 82mm lens, i was thinking of getting these for my fuji 16-55 and thats a 77mm.
Been using Kase Wolverine over the past year. Much easier than messing with screw-on filters or 150mm rectangular. Been trying all day to order a calendar but the system won’t allow for me to log into PayPal. Was hoping to be one of the first 150, but likely won’t be by the time that I can log in to pay 😢
Sorry to hear, I’ll have to check in with Kozu and find out what the problem is. Thanks for purchasing a calendar, did you manage to get one with a print?
Step rings are ridiculously hard to get in Canada at least western Canada. I bought a 82mm kit at London drugs after seeing this video then tried to get a 77mm step ring can’t buy them anywhere (broadway, Kerrisdale, McBain or any of the other camera stores) and to buy it from KASE Canada is a joke no sizes in stock and shipping on one step ring is 25$ just an FYI cool set up and the quality was there but I took the set I got back do to lack available support.
Have this Kase Wolverine Pro magnetic system for my 50r with GF 32-64mm lens which has a 77mm thread. Find when I stack more than one filter, say the CPL and any of the other filters, I get a vignette at each corner of the picture. There is no way to remedy this! Other than to crop in post. If you have this lens then go up a size like Adam says and use a reducer ring to step down to 77mm.
Can you use 82mm filters on a 15 mm wide lens that has 82 mm screw in diameter? Or will you get vignetting? I am using the Canon RF 15-35 zoom. Thanks for the wonderful video.
The Kase k9 wolverine filters are very thin so I would imagine that it would not be a problem. However you could probably only use one filter at a time and not stack filters without some sort of vignetting. I haven’t tried them with such a wide lens so you might want to ask around a bit more before committing to them.
Hi Adam thanks for another great video. Off-topic I noticed your tilting adapter is at 45 degrees in your bag, do you worry about the stress on the adapter (EVF) as it sits so close to the top of the bag and the back cover of the bag rests against it. I like the tilting adapter but find that if the camera is on a strap around your neck the EVF with adapter hits your tummy or rib cage.
I am looking into buying these filters and I am not sure which size to get. I will use it on my 14-30 (82 mm filter thread). Can I stack a CPL and ND without vignette in the corners at 14 mm? Or do I need to go to 95 mm filters and a step-up ring?
Just to make sure I’ve got this right, I would order filters for my largest mm lens and they’ll fit my other smaller mm lens? I loved the images in the video as usual ❤️ they’re always awesome.
Hi Adam, great surname! I’m in the process of changing from square filters to circular magnetic and looking at Kase. They recommend one size up from largest len’s filter, I.e. my largest len’s is 77mm so they recommend 82mm kit to prevent vignetting. The 77mm kit is cheaper and means one less ring to purchase also so nearly £50 cheaper in total. Any thoughts on the vignetting? Widest 77mm lens I own and would use with filters is the Fuji 16-55, 24-80ish in full frame terms. Thanks Adam.
I wonder if a dab on the edge of the filters with different colour paint pens would work? At any rate I ordered the calendar and the zine, looking forward to adding them to my Gibbs collection!
About the same in quality. The Kase magnetic filters are better design for now but I am sure Breakthrough will be coming out with an updated version at some point
Hey Adam, thank you for the very helpful review. I got the basic set: polarizer, 3ND, and 6ND for a xmas gift from my kids. I have been a lot of watching and reading about long exposure photography. The PhotoPills materials suggest that just because the filter says it is a 3 or 6 stop filter you should really test time so you can calculate the exposure correctly. That said I cannot find a review where this has been address for these KASE filters - your thoughts? Also what is the proper exposure process for use the polarizer, I assume the stronger the effect the longer the shutter speed? Thanks in advance for addressing my very basic questions. James (FYI - Grew up on Hornby!!!!!)
I use live view so the exposures seem Reasonably accurate. I will say that in many cases you might have to extend the exposure longer than what is recommended. I’ll often just take one image and check it out and then adjust accordingly. The polarizer is about 1 to 2 stops difference
Hi Adam. Been looking at these for a while but can't decide on size. With the 82mm on an 82mm thread lens, do you get any vignetting with two filters stacked? Would appreciate any insightful have. Cheers, Nigel. PS keep up the vlogs, really enjoy them
@@QuietLightPhoto Thanks for replying Adam. My biggest thread is 77mm on my 16-55mm (fuji x). Hoping to try the filters at the UK photo show, but can't beat in the field experience. Hope all is well.
Love my Kase filters. I kept the grease proof envelopes that each filter came and used indelible pen to write what was n it so I can easily find the one I want. Your filter case looks good. What brand is it?
Interesting. I wonder if a dot or two of fingernail polish or something similar on filters would let you color code them without interfering with performance?
I've wondered about combining CPL and ND. Sure, it's thinner avoiding the vignette thing at wide angles, which is a Good Thing. But there must be a point where adjusting the CPL becomes an issue, like at 10 stops. Where is the point where it's just too dark on the screen / EVF to adjust the CPL with any precision? 6 stop? 10 stop? I assume a large part is up to the camera, but any thoughts on that? I had the Manfrotto magnetic rings at one time. It was convenient, but a stack of the lens adapter ring, CPL (with adapter ring) and ND (with adapter ring) became quite thick and vignetted on wide shots. Plus, I found any bump to the lens front would knock off the magnetic cap, or the cap plus a filter (or two!). How are the Kase for 'bump forgiveness'? Cheers!
10 stop + ND is ot a problem with live view. Might be an issue with the DSLR's or film cameras for sure. The magnets could be a bit stronger so you do have to keep an eye on the filter getting knocked off.
The Caps have multiple revisions. Ask your dealer to replace it. :) The magnetism got better and better during the months. In case you get vignetting too early, you should swhitch one size up. E.g. instead of using 77mm in the set, get a 82mm version and corresponding magnetic step up adapter rings for all uses (and smaller diameter) lenses.
I don't think Breakthrough makes the magnetic filters. They did when the company first started. But once they handed them out to the "BIG GUYS" you couldn't get them. I bought the Breakthrough back in 2018 and their webpage has not been update since. I've sent emails to them and they are always "WORKING ON IT" and asked about the magnetic same answer . Honestly, I don't think Breakthrough is even in business anymore.
@@VoteRepublicanSaveAmerica I had a stock alert with Breakthrough and with Adorama, who carries them, for a 6-stop cp for almost a year. Breakthrough acknowledged the request and Adorama regularly notified me that it was still out of stock. I finally gave up.
@@visualsart thanks for the info! That's what I thought the case was when looking at the website, but I could have sworn I heard one of these magnetic filter systems had cpl's built directly into the nd.
@@QuietLightPhoto @dario perizzolo I aplogize for the wrong answer, I have the KW-CPL which is not combined with a ND Filter. But on the website I found one at least. It's stated as KW-ND8&CPL
I would like to go to a system like this but I do use a graduated filter at times. I can't see how I would be able to use both systems and I guess I'd have to then carry both systems with me. Do others have this situation?
I know you don't use filters that often, but when you do can you say a bit about the proportion of time it is 3-stop, 6-stop or 10-stop? Interested to know if the 10-stop is worth considering for an amateur. Thanks
As an amateur myself I use them all equally. Though the 10 stop is mainly for really long water shots or moving clouds. If you aren't looking at doing that long of an exposure you might get away without it. Check out Attilio Ruffo for long exposure inspiration.
I do a lot of work with water, and it really depends how much texture you want to retain, or if you want to totally smooth it out. It also depends on how fast the water is moving. Another consideration is the format you're using. On my Fuji APSC camera I mainly use ND 1-4 stops, stacking for combinations. I prefer exposures between 1/2 second to 1/15th second, again depending on the flow of the water. Recently I've been shooting medium format and I'm finding all I need is a CPL and various ISO settings to get the above mentioned shutter speeds. I have 8 and 10 stop filters but never have a use for them. If I liked blurrier water they might get some use.
Weird timing, I just ordered my set of Kase filters this past week after my older plate filters met an unfortunate end. I really would have liked to at least consider Breakthrough filters but the pandemic seems to have done a number on them, they announce some cool stuff then it sits on preorder for a year.
I just put this filter kit into my wish list. A bit pricey for me at the moment, but I expect I'll be able to make the purchase as soon as my tax refund arrives and before the wife realizes we got it, LOL.
Well Kase certainly listened to you about the color rings, I am the proud owner of Revolution magnetic filters. Thanks for making that suggestion!
I use dots of nail varnish or tippex to allow quick identification of the filters. My cpl has one single dot to indicate the position that gives strongest filtration so that I don't have to twiddle every time.
I've been using these Kase Wolverine magnetic filters for a long time now. I just love them! The optical quality is superb. I have now sold my Lee filter system. Some might worry about missing grad ND filters, but there is also a grad ND filter and a holder that allows the grad ND to be slid up or down, although to date the holder is only available as part of a kit (I'm told by Kase it should be available at some point.) One thing I would say about this system is that you have to be careful that the magnetic filters do not pop off when moving around. That has happened to me many times as I carry gear from one spot to another.
I’ve used an old trick from my Teaching music instrument days of nail polish. I use different colour polish and paint it onto the rings. Red is 3 stop, white is 6 and green is 10. It wears well and it’s what I had on hand. Just FYI, I used the different colours for teaching alternate clarinet fingering by dabbing the polish onto the left and right pinky keys. Stayed on for over 5 years of high school. One of the easiest things I ever did to help kids identify the alternate fingerings for certain passages.
Love my Kase filters. I store them in the little leather case that came with.
And like Marcos and David said below, nail polish on the rims to distinguish the strength. Dollar store specials for bright colors is genius. I would have paid department store prices. Lol
Thanks for your tips 👍
I have started using a Variable Fader ND2-ND400 Adjustable Neutral Density Lens filter. I did have one that had a CPL built in. So with my new Sigma lenses I have this one and a separate CPL. So far I like them, for brand is the K&F Concept Professional versions. So my point is I only carry two physical lens filters.
Great idea, different color filter rings. Would make life easier in the field. Another informative video Adam, thanks!
Hey, Adam, I have been using the KASE Wolverine filters for a year or so. I have them in both the 82mm and 77mm size. Overall I like them. But I have run into 2 issues. The first issue is that the lens caps and even the filters don’t hold on to the filter ring as much as I would like. Especially when stacked. They can be bumped off. And I do not recommend putting a CPL and ND on and then putting the filter cap on. I even find that the CPL and ND hold together better than they do to the ring. So when I try to remove the ND from the stack, the CPL comes with it. I need to get my fingernail between the CPL and the ND and separate them carefully if I want the CPL to remain on the ring and only remove the ND. Bottom line - do be careful. Especially if you are standing in a stream. (Don’t ask). Another issue is, If you are one of those people who tends to leave a CPL filter on your lens throughout a shoot or a hike then be careful. Third issue you mentioned - lens hoods. But remember that the square filter systems didn’t work with the typical lens hoods either. And I do find that if you don’t use the step up rings then you can use your lens caps. For example, I leave the KASE 77mm ring on my 24-105 lens all the time. (As a side note you may wonder why I have both the 77 and 82 set? Because when I started using these I didn’t have an 82mm lens. But I added one later so need to get the 82mm set).
I have had the same issues. Especially I can't trust the lens cap to stay on when paired with any other filter. In addition, I have had two other issues. One, don't leave the lens cap on with your CPL in your camera bag. The lens cap tends to fall off and I'm pretty sure that the lens cap scratched 2 CPLs. The other issue was my ND1000 filter just came apart into 3 pieces in the filter case. I wrote to Kase about it but they never responded. There are lots of upsides to the Kase filters but I seem to have had lots of downsides as well. I'm not sure I'll continue using them.
Adam, I really liked this review off the Filters as I am thinking about buying a set, I really liked the pros and con, but to me hearing you say that the quality was superb is really what I was hoping to hear. Thank you for the great advice I really appreciate it.
Great to hear! you might also want to look at the Kase revolution filters. Very simple to use and they now have a combo filter that is an ND and CPL in one filter. Come in ND8+CPL and ND64+CPL
Maven Filters have very similar features and each filter outer ring is a different color. I have used several filters in the past but I have had major issues with screw on adaptors that were almost impossible to remove. The Maven filters are the best I have ever used. Very compact and they come with a nice case. Of special interest for night shooting is a filter for yellow light from towns to clean up your Milky Way shots.
Thank you so much for leaving this comment. My B+W filter broke yesterday as I tried taking a photograph, and I’ve been looking to buy a new filter. I was attracted to the shockproof claims of Kase, and their magnetic abilities seem interesting as well. I didn’t know Maven had released filters, and reading your comment, I immediately google it and found out it’s really Michael the Maven’s own brand. They seem very nice, and I’m tempted to get them. How long have you have yours? Are those magnets good enough? Because I wouldn’t wanna lose them during a shoot if I bump into something. Please let me know when you get a chance! Thanks!
@@HaggenKennedy The build quality is very good. Magnets feel strong. I haven't had any reason to be concerned about a filter popping off. I have had them almost 3 months via a kickstarter campaign. I really like the storage container that was provided. I went with 82mm step up rings. Most of my lenses are 72 or 77mm with one 82mm lens. Recently I have been shooting mostly wildlife so I haven't used them very much. However in July I will be in the Rockies for a landscape trip and will be using them much more. The big selling point is the color of the rings. If I want a CPL, I know to pick the blue filter. 10 stop ND, grab the gold filter. A very simple concept. I am surprised it took so long to come up with idea. I also have the night sky filter. The last time I was deep in the Tetons shooting the Milky Way, there was a good deal of light coming from a town long way off. We were pretty high in the Tetons making the light more of a problem than it would have been in a lower elevation.
@@CoastGuy09 Thank you so much for getting back to me. I've spent the last 2 weeks researching filters, and I must say, the Maven filters have so far been my first choice for a new filter. I haven't bought them yet because I'm still researching. But I'll buy something by next month, and I'm thinking they are going to be it. I actually emailed them a bunch of questions, and they answered in less than 24 hours. Stellar consumer service, and off to a great start. Plus, I'd like to support Michael, actually. He's an actual photographer and offers a great product. Anyway, thanks so much for letting me know your thoughts on his company's filters. Pretty sure by next month that's what I'll have in my camera bag. I really appreciate you writing that first comment, and then replying to me today. Thanks, man!
Thanks for a good review and thoughts. Excellent idea about colour coding. I found with the Kase filters that the filter cap seams to come off too easily. When lifting my camera out of the bag, most times I would find it at the bottom. Th magnetism isn’t strong enough in my opinion. The filters themselves are very good. I am using the Freewell system for that reason. Cap stays on better.
Hey Brian, do you have any issues with sharpness on your Freewell?
I really like idea of magnetic system. But quality is my biggest fear.
@@alexrybin3798 I have had no issues at all!
Wow, beautiful beach, I would love to live in such a place ... thanks for sharing !!!
Great video as usual Adam, very instructive and I have to say that I love the way you always present your images first raw and then processed. It seems that they have listened to you at Kase, I've seen that they have recently presented anodized filters to help identifying them quicker.
I love my Kase filters. So easy to use and robust with it. Glad to see the great and the good putting them through their paces Adam.
Beautiful abstraction at 11:00
Forgot to mention, Kase have just released a magnetic 82mm lens hood. Adjustable to 4 lengths! Already listed at B&H. Pleased to see btw that you have no issues using filters on the Fuji 23mm. Have the lens (and GFX100S) on order but had heard from some that there were issues using circular filters on that lens.
As I watched this video , I wondered, Does the GFX lens system have lens hoods? I don't ever recall seeing any in any videos.
Magnetic filters are a game changer. I’ll never go back to faffing around with a square system again. Anodising them is a great idea. I hope they do that soon. 👍🦘🇦🇺
14:06 to give you a tip here... you can use some color nail polish and paint the side of the filters (maybe just a spot, not all around) with the colours you like per filter value....
Thanks but don’t need to, Kase just came out with coloured filters 👍🏼
@@QuietLightPhoto that's great, but now you need to replace all your filters...
The issue with all these filter systems is that all the filters and step-up rings you buy for your current biggest lens suddenly become obsolete when your next lens requires an even bigger filter. (Back in the day, you could get a set of Nikon primes from 24mm to 200mm and they all took 52mm filters. Just does not happen anymore.)
I bought a kit a size larger than my largest lens to try and avoid this scenario.
You can use different colored paint markers on the edge to make them easy to tell apart.
Great review, color coding great idea. I use a dot of fingernail polish on keys and locks. Maybe a dot of polish on the ring would work. I use the Nisi filter system, great results but it is a hassle. You got me thinking that maggots might be the way to go.
i have those filter and they are so good and very comfortable
Hi Adam , I am following you for a long time , many thanks to your always tips . I have the same issue when chosing and picking up a filter . Your suggestion having different colors are excellent , I personally use whar the women use on nails and put colors on the filter ring . All the best to you and many thanks again , from Lisbon Marcos
I love the one shot pano! A real plus for a 100MP sensor!
I agree with you, Adam. Colour coded filters would be a plus and save time in choosing them. Great video!
Love my Kase filters. But also love your idea of colour coding
I'm a happy Kase Wolverine user. I opted for the k9 kit and 100mm ND with 90mm CPL, magnetic too. I agree with other posters for color coding; nail polish or good metallic ink pens, Sharpie would wear off to quickly and not be as bright.
Love my Kase filters but have accidentally bumped them when changing location and had them fall off . Thankfully I was able to find them again and they survived without a scratch.
Yes they are prone to that. And Kase do not seem sympathetic to this at all they offered me a small discount on a £25.00 filter cap that I lost on the first time out. I now use FREEWELL goodbye to Kase forever.
Loved the environment and thought all your shots were great in this session. The one I loved for it's soft surprise was the first(?) one where the ND filter allowed enough time to turn the frontal surf into lovely cloudy mist - beautiful. Yes, I too use the Kase magnetic system and familiar w/ all your mentioned traits, and thought YES! DIFFERENT COLORS.
I had these filters for almost a year and I'm not blown away by them. I'm was surprised because all the reviews I read are positive, even from guys like Adam, who used many professional filters so they know what they're talking about.
They are my first “real” filters and I can see a slight color cast with the 6 stop and a little bigger with the 10 stop, the 3 stop is fine.
Sometimes it seems like the color cast is not even. I tried correcting it on high saturation with temperature and tint to match the image without filter, but the part of the image always seems a little bit off. I could never get the colors to 100% match the normal exposure with 6 and 10 stop. The color temp is a little different but there also seems to be less color contrast and micro contrast in certain situations. Might be affected when shooting into the sun etc.
Also, I get this weird darkening of part of the frame when I use a 6 or a 10 stop with the CPL. The effect is different when I put the ND and CPL in opposite order, so the order must have an effect on this, but it's less convenient to use it that way. Again I see no one mentioning this thing.
With this happening I want to use the high ND exposure only for the blurred part like water and mask in the other sharp parts from the other exposure without the ND. I don't think one should be complicating his life like this with quality filters…That's why I'm surprised when all these pros say there is no color cast etc. when even I want to blend exposures because I don't like the look with the filters on.
But like I said these are my first real filters so maybe I was expecting too much and I'm too critical. Could this be a quality control issue? Someone experienced this?
You must remember Kase give these filters to a lot of these You Tubers and then we get a very bias review.
Recently switched from Lee to Kase and love them! As you mentioned, I have an adaptor ring and mag cap for each lens, works great.
Excellent filters. Been using the Wolverine square and circular filters for years. Not a mark on them; unlike my Lee and Nisi filters.
I just spent half my monthly house payment on my KASE Pro 77mm filter kit and when you tossed that filter onto that rock I about crapped myself, lol.
Thanks for the field review of Kase filters Adam. Would enjoy seeing a follow up comparison between Breakthrough and Kase magnetic systems.
I agree about the colour of the filter rings Adam, would make life out in the field far more efficient if each filter was a different colour
I use a filter pouch with clear windows and just label each compartment with the type or strength of the filter.
I take a green, yellow, and red enamel (Testors brand) pens around the ring of my kase filters. green for 3 stops, yellow for 6 stops , red for 10 stops and leave the black for my polarizer. Not perfect but it helps me out because I typically stack them and put them in my pocket.
i use KASE K9 system and love it, that colour coded anodized idea is brilliant
i guess that's why you win awards :), had to put down my copy of chasing awe to type this.
good idea of yours to anodise the metal part of a filter with different colours to help with identifying the filter type. I could see a range of ND's being coloured from black to light grey for example & maybe a deep blue for polariser. There maybe one issue with that though, lighter/brighter coloured rings might cause reflections or colour casts if the colour in on the inside or lens side of the filter holder, so they might need those surfaces to be matt black & just the outer & front (surface pointing away from camera) to be coloured, & that increases the manufacturing difficulty level somewhat - not impossible, but maybe just adds to the cost.
Not trying to be a smart ass but u could put your own marking system on the filters to make things easier.I use KASE love the system and did just that to make life easier.Thnx for the vid love your work
again, great idea to get them to colorized to see which one. I am getting older and even with my glasses on, it's hard to read them.
Thanks Adam, glad to see you back. I've been using the Kase filters for about 4 months now and really impressed how easy. By the time you add up filters, step up rings and caps, it's not any savings from other top filter systems, but it's the ease of use and how fast you can work with them that I like. BTW - getting a number of compliments on your 'light' t-shirt I ordered!
Great thanks Gerry!
Agree with the colour coding ---- i suggested that to one make of filters and idea rejected !
I've used Nisi and PolarPro filters. The PolarPro are well marked, if bulky so no issues finding an ND64 vs an ND1000 for instance, and the Nisi come with compact cases that are also well marked. That said, your suggestion to colour code filters seems a good one.
i’m also a fan of the 65x24 aspect ratio photo :) also like my reverse soft 4-stop grad ND filter from Kase :)
I'm a bit jealous of your Shimoda filter wrap. I want one but they appear to be sold out at the moment! Just got the new Shimoda Explorer v2 bag. Now I see why you like them so much. Finally a "perfect" camera backpack after 3 fails! Cheers Adam!
Good choice!
I bought one I love the photos hopefully I am 1 of the 150 first ones 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Thanks for this video Adam. Thinking of getting these filters so this was v helpful. Cheers.
I find a you get a heavy vignette when shooting wide (especially when stacking filters) but other than that i love these filters, mainly for their portability.
Another informative vid. I do like the Breakthrough CPL/ND combination filter. I've also had some experience using PolarPro filters. Although a single filter has a neutral color cast, combining/stacking a PolarPro ND with their CPL causes a strong color cast that requires adjustment. Nisi filters (100mm) have a neutral cast no matter how they are combined. One interesting note about Kase magnetic filters. An acquittance was recently hiking over a creek, bumped the camera and we watched as the magnetic lens cap go for a swim. It was retrieved via a deep dive, providing a cautionary tale about securing the filters to the camera. BTW, Kase has some great astro filters as well.
That would be so nice for the rings to be anodized.... I have the in camera sensors by kase. I can never tell between my UV and Night filter while I'm out at night, would make a huge difference to have colored filter surrounds.
Wonderful! Try dabs of different colored fingernail polish for your marking system. I think that might work…
Or a paint pen.
Great vid Adam ,love your style answered all my questions
Glad to hear it!
I just got my Kase filters last week and they're great. Love the magnetic system. So easy to use and they're incredibly thin. Like the paint dab idea. Can't figure out why I didn't think of that since I do something similar with my lenses. The little red dots to indicate lens mounting point on my lenses are always difficult to see when it's dark. I paint on a white dot so easier at night. Btw, love your channel.
I didn't know that there was a polarised filter built in to the 6 stopper
I need one and two stop ND filters, along with a three and four. Need fine control. I wish Breakthrough or Kase would provide that. Great review Adam!
I've got the same issue with filters ... not being able to read the bloody ring around the rim without my glasses! I guess the filter companies just assume photographers aren't blind as bats! 🤓 Looking forward to the '22 calendar!
Cheers, Joe!
They are a good filter system. Neutral resistant etc, but the grip around this system IMO could be improved for handling. I struggle a bit with my magnetic kit
Great Video Adam. I use NISI and planning to switch to a magnetic one. Do you have any comparison on Frewell vs Kase? Any insights will help.
I'm an ambassador for KASE so I can only really comment on the KASE filters as I've never used the Frewell. So far the KASE have been excellent filters.
Very nice material... I also have a Kase Wolverine kit that I am very pleased with. Tell me, please, where exactly is this wonderful beach? And of course, +1subs!
Parksville, Vancouver Island near Craig Bay
adam when you have a cpl and say the 10 stop filter on together is there any vignetting when you use your 82mm lens, i was thinking of getting these for my fuji 16-55 and thats a 77mm.
That first image reminded me of a bunch of skulls bonded together
I see I'm not the only one here who has purchased Kase. I got mine 2 weeks ago as soon as they had the 82mm in stock.
Great way to start the morning!
Good tips. So glad I watched this one!
Nice one Adam, one question . . Does one need to buy a lens cap both rear and front for each step up ring?
Been using Kase Wolverine over the past year. Much easier than messing with screw-on filters or 150mm rectangular.
Been trying all day to order a calendar but the system won’t allow for me to log into PayPal. Was hoping to be one of the first 150, but likely won’t be by the time that I can log in to pay 😢
I gave up and paid via CC. Had hoped to use my PayPal balance. Guess I should have paid via CC first thing this morning.
Sorry to hear, I’ll have to check in with Kozu and find out what the problem is. Thanks for purchasing a calendar, did you manage to get one with a print?
Not sure, although the emailed receipt mentions the free print for the first 150 orders. Guess I will find out once it arrives 😄
Step rings are ridiculously hard to get in Canada at least western Canada. I bought a 82mm kit at London drugs after seeing this video then tried to get a 77mm step ring can’t buy them anywhere (broadway, Kerrisdale, McBain or any of the other camera stores) and to buy it from KASE Canada is a joke no sizes in stock and shipping on one step ring is 25$ just an FYI cool set up and the quality was there but I took the set I got back do to lack available support.
Did you try Cybersport? www.cybersportphoto.com/shop-for-kase-filters
@@QuietLightPhoto I did not didn’t even know they existed. Thanks for the heads up Mr. Gibbs
Have this Kase Wolverine Pro magnetic system for my 50r with GF 32-64mm lens which has a 77mm thread.
Find when I stack more than one filter, say the CPL and any of the other filters, I get a vignette at each corner of the picture.
There is no way to remedy this! Other than to crop in post.
If you have this lens then go up a size like Adam says and use a reducer ring to step down to 77mm.
Can you use 82mm filters on a 15 mm wide lens that has 82 mm screw in diameter? Or will you get vignetting? I am using the Canon RF 15-35 zoom. Thanks for the wonderful video.
The Kase k9 wolverine filters are very thin so I would imagine that it would not be a problem. However you could probably only use one filter at a time and not stack filters without some sort of vignetting. I haven’t tried them with such a wide lens so you might want to ask around a bit more before committing to them.
Thank you for a good review. Any sharpness degradation? Also what system do you use in 2022?
No degradation. Wolverine magnetic filters
Brilliant Adam ,
Hi Adam thanks for another great video. Off-topic I noticed your tilting adapter is at 45 degrees in your bag, do you worry about the stress on the adapter (EVF) as it sits so close to the top of the bag and the back cover of the bag rests against it. I like the tilting adapter but find that if the camera is on a strap around your neck the EVF with adapter hits your tummy or rib cage.
I don’t worry about it too much but it does stick out a lot for sure
I am looking into buying these filters and I am not sure which size to get. I will use it on my 14-30 (82 mm filter thread). Can I stack a CPL and ND without vignette in the corners at 14 mm? Or do I need to go to 95 mm filters and a step-up ring?
In that case I would look into this system that I talked about a few weeks ago ua-cam.com/video/uwr0RXa9Ooo/v-deo.html
Just to make sure I’ve got this right, I would order filters for my largest mm lens and they’ll fit my other smaller mm lens? I loved the images in the video as usual ❤️ they’re always awesome.
Yes but you would need to purchase rings for each kens
Hi Adam, great surname! I’m in the process of changing from square filters to circular magnetic and looking at Kase. They recommend one size up from largest len’s filter, I.e. my largest len’s is 77mm so they recommend 82mm kit to prevent vignetting. The 77mm kit is cheaper and means one less ring to purchase also so nearly £50 cheaper in total. Any thoughts on the vignetting? Widest 77mm lens I own and would use with filters is the Fuji 16-55, 24-80ish in full frame terms. Thanks Adam.
I use an 82mm filter on my medium format 23mm and have never had a problem. Stacking multiple filters would probably be an issue though.
Adam you mentioned lens hoods in this video but I don't think I've ever seen you use one. Is that the case?
Peter
Couple of reasons. First reason is because of the rings that interfere with the hoods and second reason I have trouble finding room for them on my bag
I wonder if a dab on the edge of the filters with different colour paint pens would work?
At any rate I ordered the calendar and the zine, looking forward to adding them to my Gibbs collection!
I had the same idea in mind: purchase those permanent Sharpie markers to color the rings to one’s own preferences. 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing this information, how would you find it compares with the Breakthrough filters?
About the same in quality. The Kase magnetic filters are better design for now but I am sure Breakthrough will be coming out with an updated version at some point
Hey Adam, thank you for the very helpful review. I got the basic set: polarizer, 3ND, and 6ND for a xmas gift from my kids. I have been a lot of watching and reading about long exposure photography. The PhotoPills materials suggest that just because the filter says it is a 3 or 6 stop filter you should really test time so you can calculate the exposure correctly. That said I cannot find a review where this has been address for these KASE filters - your thoughts? Also what is the proper exposure process for use the polarizer, I assume the stronger the effect the longer the shutter speed? Thanks in advance for addressing my very basic questions. James (FYI - Grew up on Hornby!!!!!)
I use live view so the exposures seem
Reasonably accurate. I will say that in many cases you might have to extend the exposure longer than what is recommended. I’ll often just take one image and check it out and then adjust accordingly. The polarizer is about 1 to 2 stops difference
Hi Adam. Been looking at these for a while but can't decide on size. With the 82mm on an 82mm thread lens, do you get any vignetting with two filters stacked? Would appreciate any insightful have. Cheers, Nigel. PS keep up the vlogs, really enjoy them
Good question! Truth is I’m not sure, I guess it would depend on the focal length. Best bet is to get in touch with Kase and ask those guys
@@QuietLightPhoto Thanks for replying Adam. My biggest thread is 77mm on my 16-55mm (fuji x). Hoping to try the filters at the UK photo show, but can't beat in the field experience. Hope all is well.
@@nigelcooke1064 Hi Nigel, you will minimum need a 82mm filter version to cover the 16mm.
great review!
what's the name of this beach?
Not sure, it’s in Nanoose
@@QuietLightPhoto thank you!
Magnetic filters make so much more sense!
Fantastic, as always.
Love my Kase filters. I kept the grease proof envelopes that each filter came and used indelible pen to write what was n it so I can easily find the one I want. Your filter case looks good. What brand is it?
Shimoda
Interesting. I wonder if a dot or two of fingernail polish or something similar on filters would let you color code them without interfering with performance?
Kase are good, I love the clip in system.
Now they have colored rings 🎉
How does the built in polarizer affect wide angle lenses Adam? Do you get the banding?
I haven’t noticed any
👍🏻
I've wondered about combining CPL and ND. Sure, it's thinner avoiding the vignette thing at wide angles, which is a Good Thing. But there must be a point where adjusting the CPL becomes an issue, like at 10 stops. Where is the point where it's just too dark on the screen / EVF to adjust the CPL with any precision? 6 stop? 10 stop? I assume a large part is up to the camera, but any thoughts on that? I had the Manfrotto magnetic rings at one time. It was convenient, but a stack of the lens adapter ring, CPL (with adapter ring) and ND (with adapter ring) became quite thick and vignetted on wide shots. Plus, I found any bump to the lens front would knock off the magnetic cap, or the cap plus a filter (or two!). How are the Kase for 'bump forgiveness'? Cheers!
10 stop + ND is ot a problem with live view. Might be an issue with the DSLR's or film cameras for sure. The magnets could be a bit stronger so you do have to keep an eye on the filter getting knocked off.
The Caps have multiple revisions. Ask your dealer to replace it. :)
The magnetism got better and better during the months.
In case you get vignetting too early, you should swhitch one size up. E.g. instead of using 77mm in the set, get a 82mm version and corresponding magnetic step up adapter rings for all uses (and smaller diameter) lenses.
Kase vs Breakthrough Magnetic which did you prefer?
I don't think Breakthrough makes the magnetic filters. They did when the company first started. But once they handed them out to the "BIG GUYS" you couldn't get them. I bought the Breakthrough back in 2018 and their webpage has not been update since. I've sent emails to them and they are always "WORKING ON IT" and asked about the magnetic same answer . Honestly, I don't think Breakthrough is even in business anymore.
@@VoteRepublicanSaveAmerica I received one of their step up rings quite quickly just two weeks ago so they are alive. The best rings I've used so far.
@@VoteRepublicanSaveAmerica I had a stock alert with Breakthrough and with Adorama, who carries them, for a 6-stop cp for almost a year. Breakthrough acknowledged the request and Adorama regularly notified me that it was still out of stock. I finally gave up.
The Breakthrough NDs are quite neutral how are the Kase compared to them?
13:20
About the same I’d say
Have you ever experienced vignettes around the corners using the same size filter as your lens thread?
No not personally but I know Gavin Hardcastle did have some issues with vignetting.
@@QuietLightPhoto how about if we stack CPL and 1 ND filter on 16mm lens? Will we get vignettes?
One thing I'm still not clear on, is the cpl built into the nd filter, or is it a separate component that you need to stack with the nd?
Each of the filters is individual, you can stack them as you like. ND is not built into CPL and vice versa.
@@visualsart thanks for the info! That's what I thought the case was when looking at the website, but I could have sworn I heard one of these magnetic filter systems had cpl's built directly into the nd.
no the CPL is built right into the ND filter, one filter, no stacking
@@QuietLightPhoto thanks for confirming that, greatly appreciated. I tried the link but I couldn't find the filters in there?
@@QuietLightPhoto @dario perizzolo I aplogize for the wrong answer, I have the KW-CPL which is not combined with a ND Filter. But on the website I found one at least. It's stated as KW-ND8&CPL
How would you say the color cast compares to Breakthrough?
I haven’t noticed any colour casts with either companies.
@@QuietLightPhoto Thanks. That's my favorite part of the Breakthrough filters, but I'm tired of dealing with screw on filters.
hi Adam, what about graduated though? do you still need another system for that?
Unfortunately they don’t offer any grad filters in the Wolverine system. I typically exposure blend when needed.
I would like to go to a system like this but I do use a graduated filter at times. I can't see how I would be able to use both systems and I guess I'd have to then carry both systems with me. Do others have this situation?
Yes and I believe Kase have a solution for those that use both
I know you don't use filters that often, but when you do can you say a bit about the proportion of time it is 3-stop, 6-stop or 10-stop? Interested to know if the 10-stop is worth considering for an amateur. Thanks
As an amateur myself I use them all equally. Though the 10 stop is mainly for really long water shots or moving clouds. If you aren't looking at doing that long of an exposure you might get away without it. Check out Attilio Ruffo for long exposure inspiration.
I do a lot of work with water, and it really depends how much texture you want to retain, or if you want to totally smooth it out. It also depends on how fast the water is moving. Another consideration is the format you're using. On my Fuji APSC camera I mainly use ND 1-4 stops, stacking for combinations. I prefer exposures between 1/2 second to 1/15th second, again depending on the flow of the water. Recently I've been shooting medium format and I'm finding all I need is a CPL and various ISO settings to get the above mentioned shutter speeds.
I have 8 and 10 stop filters but never have a use for them. If I liked blurrier water they might get some use.
@@DanuteP thank you. I checked out his content and it looks useful.
Weird timing, I just ordered my set of Kase filters this past week after my older plate filters met an unfortunate end. I really would have liked to at least consider Breakthrough filters but the pandemic seems to have done a number on them, they announce some cool stuff then it sits on preorder for a year.
I just put this filter kit into my wish list. A bit pricey for me at the moment, but I expect I'll be able to make the purchase as soon as my tax refund arrives and before the wife realizes we got it, LOL.