.32 S&W SHORT AND .32 S&W LONG START TO FINISH.

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  • @311jbknight
    @311jbknight 4 роки тому +7

    I've built a few 32S&W top breaks from boxes of parts from Auction Arms. Also a couple 38S&W. I also reload and the 32S&W what you call the short is a dream to shoot. A century ago they were the most accurate round for competition. Also used for conceal carry by a lot of people. A great historic cartridge to work with.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому +3

      agreed historical, accurate and was a very effective pocket pistol cartridge, i would love to have an old top break in .32 s&w.

    • @rickomatic2012
      @rickomatic2012 2 роки тому +1

      Do you think small charges of smokeless powder is ok in the old top breaks? Some were made in the black powder era.

    • @311jbknight
      @311jbknight 2 роки тому +1

      @@rickomatic2012 I will work up using my chronograph until I get to original factory FPS. Than check for accuracy. So far they have been very accurate.
      I have a couple 38S&W too. Fun little cheap projects.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому +1

      @@rickomatic2012 Frontier western heritage and marksmle have and excellent video on just that subject.

    • @lynettepat2646
      @lynettepat2646 2 роки тому

      Where can I find 32 s&w short ammo at. I can't seem to find none here in North Carolina.

  • @robertrobert7924
    @robertrobert7924 4 місяці тому

    I own several .32 S&W Long C&R revolvers and some S&W short revolvers. I was lucky enough to buy factory made cartridges a long while ago. They are very accurate @25 yds. I bought some .313 lead cast bullets to reload my 7.63mm C96 Mauser Broomhandle Pistol brass. I had the shot out barrel relined and it likes the .313 lead bullets over 3.6 grs. of Unique. I can use the same bullets to reload the .32 cal. revolver brass in the future. Thanks for this video. This is the 2nd video of yours that has helped me reload.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 місяці тому

      Robert it was of may favorite calibers to reload for and shoot..i happy you enjoyed both video's.

  • @johnndavis7647
    @johnndavis7647 Рік тому

    I recently acquired an interesting bullet mold. It is in 32 caliber. It has a long reduced base suitable for seating in black powder, cap and ball revolvers such as the Colt 1849 and the Manhattan percussion revolvers.
    What's even more interesting is that it also has a hole bored in the mold for a rimmed cartridge. It also has a screw that serves as a primer ram.
    Apparently it was sold for reloading ammo for percussion revolvers that had been converted to fire center-fire cartridges .
    I just got it last week-end at the Lakeland gun-show. I have not had time to cast any bullets with it but it's sure looks like it will be fun.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      It appears tha you have the lyman 310 reloading hand tool very populart in the 19th and 20th century.

    • @johnndavis7647
      @johnndavis7647 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID No, I do have half a dozen of the lyman 310 tools and various sets of dies for them.
      I have been collecting them for a long time.
      You are probably thinking of the older Ideal tool that had the mold built into the end of the reloading tool.
      Lyman bought the Ideal company around 1900 and they redesigned the tool dropping the molds and threading the tools for changeable dies. There was a series of design changes over many years.
      The tool I have is an old fashioned steel bullet mold.
      Probably made around 1875. The handles and mold are one piece of steel or should I say two pieces joined at a hinge. Each side has half a mold cavity. Think of a double cavity mold but one cavity is drilled out to be a shell holder and the other side of that cavity has a screw adjustable primer ram in it.
      I have never seen one like it before.
      I will let you know how it goes once I cast some bullets and start working with it. I have a 1849 Colt. I will try the bullets in that first.
      Thanks for your reply.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      @@johnndavis7647 im curious to know it's design and origin.

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      What is a rimmed cartridge

    • @johnndavis7647
      @johnndavis7647 Рік тому

      @@craigfinley2507 early self contained cartridges were sometimes referred to as flanged that is they had a wide thin rim. They were rim-fire the 44 Henry .
      The 22 rimfires started about that time and they are still with us today.

  • @lawrencehudson9939
    @lawrencehudson9939 2 роки тому +1

    Ran across this video today. I too love the 32's a few months back I bought a Ruger GP100 but had to send it back to the factory as the cylinder would not rotate when loaded. Fixed now but I still have not had a chance to shoot it even though I have a box of wadcutters loaded for it. I also have a Colt in 32-20 that is a fine shooter. The Ruger is a 327 but I have thousands of 32 S&W Long cases and will just stick with them for target shooting.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому +1

      Lawrence i have a video called ruger warrenty and i had a major issue with my sp-101 in .357 federal magnum while back.

    • @lawrencehudson9939
      @lawrencehudson9939 2 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID Watched your review of your warranty repair. My experience was close to yours except I received a test target photocopy. I've owned many Rugers over the years and they are built like tanks. This is the first one that had a problem.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      @@lawrencehudson9939 my 1st ruger was the gp 100 back in 89 i payed 333$ for it and kept it for 22 year before selling it due to hard times.

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      That 32 Colt must be a old model, but that is a nice cartridge you don't find those anymore or hear about the 32-20 is your gun a revolver or pistol

    • @lawrencehudson9939
      @lawrencehudson9939 Рік тому

      Revolver Colt Army Special.@@craigfinley2507

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

    How much powder would you put in the 327 fed mag i have a H&R 732 in S&W long

  • @Thorsaxe777
    @Thorsaxe777 4 роки тому +1

    Nice soft shooting round. -Dave

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому +1

      thanks 4 watching Dave, so Dave can you go out to the public lands to go shooting or do your public ranges have limited days and hours?

  • @douglaskirk1087
    @douglaskirk1087 4 роки тому +1

    I was just checking on stuff to start loading for my grandpa ol 32 long great timing on the video thanks for sharing and God bless

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому

      did grandpa have a top break revolver or swing out model?

    • @douglaskirk1087
      @douglaskirk1087 4 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID swing out with pearl handle

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому

      @@douglaskirk1087 awsome i would love an original colt or s&w from the 30's or 40's your very lucky to have it, i live in cmmiefornia and the ruger was the only revolver in the 32 i could get.

    • @douglaskirk1087
      @douglaskirk1087 4 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID I don't know the exact year but my dad said grandpa was offered a hefty price for it in the sixties.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому

      @@douglaskirk1087 do you know the make and model of the gun?

  • @okiemoto6114
    @okiemoto6114 3 роки тому +1

    Do we have to lube the cast bullets before sizing? I plan on powder coating after sizing them. Thank you for your video.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому

      it's optional i never ever lubed before resizing.

    • @okiemoto6114
      @okiemoto6114 3 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID okay thank you!

  • @ED-2.0.9.
    @ED-2.0.9. 4 роки тому +1

    Nice. Question, where did you order the expander from please? I need a different seater (stem?) insert with a different, more conical, profile to swap into a die as I'm flattening some point-ier bullets upon seating while doing some development. Thank you.
    Edit: and on the improv side/approach, I haven't tried, but I notice my instructions page on my 32 acp dies has instructions about only backing off contact a half turn or less to impart a roll crimp. Dunno(?). Perhaps you could use that approach,backed up quite a bit, for your shorts.
    PSA for the stray reader: One rarely (almost never,) uses a roll crimp on an ACP cartridge.
    Safe Shoot'n Ev'body!

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому

      the 32 acp seat die has a 2 step crimping stage, as you push the shell up to seat the bullet the 1st step taper crimps and all the way is the roll crimp step. the 32 acp die is very versatile, as far as your seating stem goes mine is actually a lee brand and is shaped accordingly, my expander came from leeprecision.com, i used a .309 bullet sizer die to crimp the 32 shorts thanks 4 watching.

    • @ED-2.0.9.
      @ED-2.0.9. 4 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID thank you!

  • @DavidPowell-cg4cj
    @DavidPowell-cg4cj 7 місяців тому +1

    Thankyou.😊

  • @michalmesaros1116
    @michalmesaros1116 Рік тому

    hello, I have a smith and wesson double action 38S&W, what ammo do you use or what kind of mold do you have? For casting bullets? the original size is 0.361, but I couldn't find it anywhere.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      I use a western molds 145gn hollow based round nose designed for 36 cap and ball revolvers, the mold works for 38 special, 38 s&w the diameter is .357 but the hollow skirt will expand up to .375 cal. So it's perfect for the 38 s&w I make home made 38 short shells out of 38 spl cases, lee sell the 38 colt short cutter die.

    • @michalmesaros1116
      @michalmesaros1116 Рік тому

      and where to buy a mold for casting bullets? 38 S&W double action?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      @@michalmesaros1116old western molds.com

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

    Another question couldn't you use hp 38 on the long as well

  • @Medmann48
    @Medmann48 Рік тому

    I had somebody give me a box of 1000 Hornady .32 Caliber 90 Grain Lead bullet tips (.314" Dia), will those work for reloading .32 ACP?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      Abit heavy but will work, I've seen cast bullets up to 80gns work in a 32 auto....he'll I've fire 132gn cast bullets put of my .380 acp. With no I'll effect.

  • @jaydoes2166
    @jaydoes2166 2 роки тому

    Also the 32 long and short cartridges are the same correct? I can just cut down 32 long cases to .32 s&w standard (short)?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      Yes bullets for the long and short are the same .312"-314"

  • @cory8791
    @cory8791 4 роки тому

    Great vid!!!

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому +1

      thank you cory happy mother's day.

    • @cory8791
      @cory8791 4 роки тому

      lead bullets 4 life Happy mother’s day

  • @jaydoes2166
    @jaydoes2166 2 роки тому

    What did you use or do to get the nice roll crimp on the lead bullets? Also where did you get the mold for those 85-88grain lead bullets? Thank you in advance.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому +1

      for a roll crimp what you do is use the seating die to crimp your cases there is an instep inside the seating die and once reached you can adjust for desired crimp,and the mold came from an RCBS -84gn mold.

    • @jaydoes2166
      @jaydoes2166 2 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID thank you!

  • @Mis-AdventureCH
    @Mis-AdventureCH Рік тому

    So I'm assuming that the dies for 32 S&W both long and short are the same? (minus the crimp feature for the short)

  • @EricLDC
    @EricLDC 2 роки тому

    Is iver Johnson 32 short black or smokeless? Not sure if already asked if so I'm being censored by UA-cam lol

  • @nitr0junki3
    @nitr0junki3 4 роки тому

    Just bought a H prefix serial numbered S&W model 30, marked 32 S&W long. Can I shoot 32 S&W shorts in this revolver as well?

    • @inaz1963
      @inaz1963 3 роки тому +1

      Yup, you can.

  • @mikepowell9514
    @mikepowell9514 4 роки тому

    Hey I was wondering if the 32s&w , and 32s&w long cartrage is a black powder or smokeless powder cartrage ? Please tell me

    • @mikepowell9514
      @mikepowell9514 4 роки тому

      It smells like black powder but the guy I bought them from said they were smokeless

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому +1

      the orignal .32 s&w was loading for the s&w top break revolvers and they did come in black powder, smokeless powder didn't come out until 1884 by a french chemist.

  • @kiheirc3195
    @kiheirc3195 3 роки тому

    Thanks thanks thanks again!

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому

      Always happy to help out thanks4 watching

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому

      Just to let you know i have a video on the lee 100gn bullet as well.

  • @Gronicle1
    @Gronicle1 7 місяців тому

    The finished rounds appear to have no crimp? Is that just me or did you skip crimping the rounds?

  • @praxisarms103
    @praxisarms103 4 роки тому

    Do you know what the cost per round is roughly for reloading this round? I have an H&R in 32 S&W long and was looking to reload so I could shoot more often.

    • @Rowrin
      @Rowrin 4 роки тому +3

      Pre-covid/lock-down/rioting/2020 it was something like:
      $0.08 for a 77 grain lead cast projectile (I got mine from hunter's supply)
      $0.18 (optional) for fresh brass cases (starline makes these)
      $0.02 for powder charge. A pound of bullseye will load something like 2500 rounds of 32 h&r/s&w long.
      $0.03 for primer.
      Altogether, roughly 13cpr if you are re-using your own cases, 31cpr for the initial batch if you had to buy new cases. If you cast your own bullets, could probably get something like 7-8cpr buying or collecting scrap lead.

    • @praxisarms103
      @praxisarms103 4 роки тому +1

      @@Rowrin Thanks

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

    What would happen if you use 2.7 grain in the short

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      It will be just fine for top breaks and modern revolvers.

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID I have a 1967 32 H&R could it handle it

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      @@craigfinley2507 h@r is a very sturdy revolver.

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID it is all steel I think it weigh 20 oz

  • @Hurricanepistol
    @Hurricanepistol 3 роки тому +1

    Is it ok to shoot 32 shorts & 32 longs in the same gun?? Like a 32 H& R revolver ?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому +1

      if its a .32 H&R man or a.327 mag they are perfectly safe to shoot, see my shooting video.

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 10 місяців тому

    1.6 grains of powder dont fill up to top of cartridge so how does all the powder burn correctly, and the same for the long cartridge using 3.1 doesn't fill the whole cartridge to the top, dont the powder be distributed to loose in cartridge that make it dont burn completely. Please get back with me

  • @dn.romanosslockett5182
    @dn.romanosslockett5182 2 роки тому

    Hi, I’m interested in buying a pack of 32 short as I can’t find them anywhere. Do you sell them?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      all my .32 brass was purchased thru diamond brass so i save all my brass for reloading purposes, it's not a common caliber I.e..9mm 38 spl or 45 acp which brass is everywhere. the big box store do carry it such as Cabelas or Basspro.

    • @dn.romanosslockett5182
      @dn.romanosslockett5182 2 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID thank you. Yeah, I tried all those places and they do not carry it in my area.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      @@dn.romanosslockett5182 now you see why i had to reload and cast my own.

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

    Why couldn't you crimp the short dont they have same size shell

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      The short shells don't reach all the way up..I use a 32 app seating die to format the crimp which is what you get in the lee resizing kit.

  • @craigfinley2507
    @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

    Why did you push it up before you put bullet on and why you oil them

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      Aaah at first I didn't understand the question, but I sent them up to be case flared to add a bell to the case for easy loading of the bullet, and I had lots of fouling from the lubed bullets so I powder coated them to stop the fouling and the bullet is simular to a jacketed bullet.

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID do you mean hard cast

    • @craigfinley2507
      @craigfinley2507 Рік тому

      @@Ford360CID you mean the red bullet that's the coated one right. But you didn't coat all of them did you

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      @craigfinley2507 yes it's because pure lead is too soft to with stand 400 degrees.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Рік тому

      @@craigfinley2507 so this was a 50/50 mix.

  • @emb8153
    @emb8153 4 роки тому +2

    Was watching your video and wanted to simply state an observation, I believe you may be over expanding your case mouths. It shows on some of the shorts you completed as well, the crimp looks a little wide at the mouth. Just how it appears on the vid anyway, may be perfectly ok in real life. I reload a lot of .32 long and short. Thanks for the vid.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому +1

      during the making of this video i didn't i didn't have a expander plug in my ebay dies so i had to use my universal expander die set to flare out the case mouth, also the .32 long dies is too long for the .32 S&W shorts so you are correct in your observation, but to this date i have the correct expander plug thanks to lee precision and a seperate die set for the .32 S&W shorts, thanks for watching.

  • @Varmint.357
    @Varmint.357 3 роки тому

    You ever use Trail Boss powder in your 32 s&w long loading?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому +1

      Never needed to I've always had 4 other powders on hand i believe trail boss is designed more for cartridges with a large volume of air space to fill and to reduce position sensitivity the .32 s&w is already short to fill up with most fast burning powders.

  • @forrest5050
    @forrest5050 4 роки тому

    does any one know if i can load short brass to long pressures?and also can i use my short dies to load for both?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  4 роки тому

      you can use short cases to get higher velocity! with out high pressure, my 1.7 of red dot will push a 102gn cast bullet 800FPS, i now use 1.3gn of red dot to put it in the 650 FPS range, you can use either both the .32 s&w dies or the .32 ACP dies to load both and up to .32H&R magnum.

  • @atharvatoskar87
    @atharvatoskar87 3 роки тому

    .22 LR & .32 s&w Short are effective enough against close distance self-defense from dog breeds like Pitbull & Rottweiler?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому +1

      Yes in europe just after the turn of the 20th century many makers came out with the velo dog revolver which fired a 25 ACP round to ward off dogs chasing you while riding your bike.

    • @atharvatoskar87
      @atharvatoskar87 3 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID am looking for stop & kill capability, because at very close range other caliber rounds may cause over penetration, lets consider a most common situation at dog park where a large agressive breed attacks & grab a smaller pet, in that tussle, such small caliber is better to shoot those animals to defend own pet & self

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  3 роки тому

      @@atharvatoskar87 I was once in that situation the neighbors dog attacked my mother's Pomeranian I was on my way to the National Forest I have my 30-30 with me at a time but was not loaded if push came to shove that 3030 would have been handy to this patch that large dog behind me was just dirt on the street and I think a 30-30 soft point was splattered on the street anyways it would have ricocheted but at the same time your pet Could Be In Harm's Way if you're not a a good shot a large knife or even a 22 revolver with a long barrel or automatic with a long barrel with a soft lead bullet would have done the job

  • @Unique377
    @Unique377 2 роки тому +1

    Way expensive for the brass you could have got 100 new brass cases for $23

  • @wannabe4668
    @wannabe4668 Рік тому

    No crimp?

  • @matthewhenderson6821
    @matthewhenderson6821 2 роки тому

    Can I pay, I need some .32 black powder rounds for my lemon squeezer revolver antique

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      Do you need loaded 32 shorts?my loads are smokeless powder loadings.

    • @lamar932
      @lamar932 2 роки тому

      If you would sell shorts that would be great looking for 32 short smokeless powder would pay good money on some

  • @abee3515
    @abee3515 2 роки тому

    Without doing any research the idea of shoving plastic coated bullets down a rifled barrel seems like a bad idea to me.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому

      Powder coating bullets is not a new thing it's been around for about 6 or 7 years now and it's pretty popular among Reloaders Federal makes a nylon version and the fact that you're using a powder coat instead of metal has less wear and tear on the barrel though no substitute for a jacketed bullet it basically keeps the lead and Barrel from touching each other and still get the performance from any kind of jacket or lead bullet also reduction and Lead fumes.

    • @abee3515
      @abee3515 2 роки тому

      @@Ford360CID I was digging into it a little and it looks good. I cleaned up and lubed my Grandmothers .32 long and thought about shooting it. Maybe get a handloader and save the brass. It's one of those pistols you could see sitting on a shelf in a feed and seed store with an 8 dollar tag on it back when I was a kid.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому +1

      @@abee3515 LOL... i love that image of a window display item with old paper tag hanging on it like was once politically correct for its day, there's and old episode of the little rascals where Spanky and his big brother went window shopping for their mothers birthday, and Spanky says lets buy that gun and Spankys big brother says what would ma do with a gun and spanky says...shoot papa!! lol,,of course that wouldn't fly today.

    • @abee3515
      @abee3515 2 роки тому +1

      @@Ford360CID On Archie Bunker he called his daughter little girl and she was ranting about gun violence and Archie says would it make you feel any better if they was shoved outta windows little girl?

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  2 роки тому +1

      @@abee3515 that sounds like Archie alright.

  • @LEXxTALIONS
    @LEXxTALIONS Місяць тому

    Hi. I live in Europe I'm wondering if you can help me giving me the price of the machine to do the reload myself, the price +-. Thank you very much and awesome video, and you got a new subscriber from another continent 👍🫵

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Місяць тому +1

      the single stage press was an old 1986 RCBS , i also use a Lee 3 stage turret press as well, the RCBS was 75$ the Lee turret press was 109$ on Ebay the dies were also from lee as well.

    • @LEXxTALIONS
      @LEXxTALIONS Місяць тому

      @Ford360CID thank you.

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Місяць тому +1

      @@LEXxTALIONS glad to help, please watch my 32 caliber range videos as well I'm sure you will enjoy them.

    • @LEXxTALIONS
      @LEXxTALIONS Місяць тому

      @@Ford360CID of course. I'm watching them👍

    • @Ford360CID
      @Ford360CID  Місяць тому +1

      @@LEXxTALIONS thanks4watching, i haven't been shooting in quite awhile due to my other interest in old trucks.