There was a weaker round in the 60's called a "CB". I killed a pigeon at 100 ft, So quiet you couldn't hear it. Same dimensions as the short. Probably just a weaker load.
@@maritimedragon CB's were still around 15 years ago, haven't seen lately, but that doesn't mean they don't still make. I bought some "quiet" rounds to try in my single action...still too loud for bare ears on the indoor range.
@@weaselduke CCI still makes CB rounds in both 22 short and 22 long variants. The point of a CB is primarily for gallery shooting, quiet and low power.
@@thatguyoverthere9634 we called 'em "carnival rounds" because they used 'em in the shooting gallery on the midway at carnies...was some of the best days of my life...
I too, use .22 short ammo. in my single shot rifles and they do 'the job' exceptionally well. I've used this size of .22 cal. ammunition for darned near as long as those, you have there, have been around. They've provided me and my buddies with endless hours of shooting / plinking fun. Many great memories are coming back to me as I watch this video. Thanks Jeff and Danny for this one!
I had a Baby Savage .22 rifle and an endless supply of .22 shorts when I was a kid (11 years old), and I shot 1000s and 1000s of rounds through it. If we weren't in school, my cousins and I were out in the hills and forests shooting every day. It never even occurred to me that someone could actually get killed with it, BUT before we ever touched a gun we were taught to respect all firearms and how to safely handle them.
I'm 52. I have a couple of old .22 shorts from about this era. Made here in Melbourne Australia by ICI (Imperial Chemical Industries), a British company that has not existed since I was a kid, but my Mum worked there as a receptionist until she had us kids in the late 60's. These rounds are probably from when my late Gandfather would take my Dad and the rest of his brother (expat Irish family, lots of 'em) huntin' rabbits back in the 50's. My family was dirt poor in the day, and most of them were use air rifles. My Pop wouldn't waste the price of .22 long on a rabbit, despite the families "pea rifle" being chambered for all the available stuff and the rest of the family wanting to hear the bang. Dad and his older brother Don could take out most bunnies with their Crackerjack air rifles. The .22 short was reserved for distant bunnies only. And when you hunt...two bunnies for the stew. Two for the pot when you get home, and the rest sold to local butchers. One time the came home with about 30 of the things hanging off the bumper of the vehicle the had....late, and the bunnies already starting to pong. Nanna Babe stewed em well and made them eat them all. She was four feet of Cornish Toughness. I can just remember her.
Interesting story, I'm 62 and got my first gun a .22 caliber rifle when I was 8 years old, my father bought it from the nextdoor neighbor for $10 A Winchester model 60, great little rifle and very accurate! Good Day.
So cool to hear other folks around the world use 'em just like we do. I use the CB caps, or Aguila super Colibri,Quiet,slow, efficient. 'Neighbor Friendly'. Quieter than a BB gun, heavy hitters for the size, and quiet...while using the good ole .22...Nice to see Family making do, with the stew...love it. I do woodchucks/Groundhogs with 'em...don't eat 'em tho.... and they pop Red Squirrels quick 'n painless. Good ammo for city/urban folk. Test in your gun, .22 shorts are loud, CB or Super Colibri Aguila are very stealthy/quiet. Enjoy folks!
I worked for ICI National Starch back around 2007-2008. Actually, they were a customer of my IT company where we did server support and hardware monitoring. I believe National Starch was the parent company - but they were still referred to as "ICI" in all of our communications.
As a kid in the 1950’s, the .22 short was my choice for small game hunting and it did the job very well! I used a old bolt action single shot rifle left to me by an uncle who used the rifle in the early 1940’s and I still have the rifle👍
Ken, I have a Henry 22 Golden Boy, which I have had for years and have never even loaded it. It is still in the box and wrapped in plastic and it will go to my Great Grandson someday, Take care!
Dad bought them by the brick for us boys when we lived on the dairy farm in Duval Washington in the sixties. Back then we carried our 22s into town, unloaded by the time we hit town of course, but could you imagine that happening these days? I'm glad to have once lived in a truly free America!
LOL I could imagine media sh#*ing bricks having screeching tantrums about gun control if that happened now a days. It would be hilarious but also annoying.
I'm purdy sure the only Free America was after the The Americans chased on the Brits until the Civil war which was used to Instill a puppet government. America became the Military industrial complex extension of Britain. Why else did they go from conquestors to participants and now the states does what the British did. The Nzs killed how many and considered monsters. Can we get a Civil kill count for the States over the last 10, 20 and 30 years. Can we get a civilian vs terrorist kill count under each of the last 5 Potuses?
Decades ago I was shot accidentally at distance, about 300 yards . I was apparently unseen, being partially blocked by a hump in the terrain.. He missed his prey and I was hit thru the shoulder, I learned later by a 22LR high-power, regular point. I was told if I had been standing 6 inches to the left or turned a little to the right I wouldn't be here today. Although I was lucky it missed all the important things, I still lost a lot of blood by the time I reached the hospital. There was no sensation of blunt force impact, it was just a beam of heat passing thru the entire depth of my shoulder and into my scapula. No other way to describe it. I hadn't realized what happened until I saw the blood pouring down my arm. The pain, more like a very deep severe ache but not quite as bad as getting kicked in the n--ts, didn't come until about a half-hour later. Adrenaline does work. 3 hours later they did the surgery and I was NOT put under since they said the bullet had been deflected by the scapula and landed just short of exiting. The extraction hurt worse than getting shot. To anyone who thinks a 22 is a sissy round, they need to get in a time machine and I will gladly put them in my boots. Don't worry, I remember about where I was walking and somewhat how I was positioned when it hit. Based on what I experienced at long range, I would not want to be hit anywhere by a 22 Short at close range, no way .. I have been shot at since then with bigger stuff, but during those times I was well-aware what was happening and we were returning fire
My friend got shot in the back by a 22 short fired from a tiny little 22 revolver and thankfully for him an ambulance was just down the road less than a minute away and they saved his life because it collapsed his lung and he was drowning in his own blood.
The 22 is the most underrated and made fun of round out there. This round and it's variants are among the most versatile caliber there is. It's like a little dirty secret or something. I love my 22's, they have fed me and have protected countless others through years.
@@drinkme6803 To think that over 100 years ago having a shooting range in your parlor was a very European thing. They even specifically made guns for it.
LOL . . . You're not alone! I was very careful doing this, but I used to shoot old phone books with my 15-shot .22 LR Marlin Model 60 semi-auto rifle, inside of my house (specifically in my bedroom), since I unfortunately live in city limits. However, my double-action Harrington & Richardson 9-shot revolver and my Stevens Model 87T semi-auto rifle will shoot .22 Short, .22 Long, and .22 LR. I love my Marlin Model 60! I only paid $20 it back in 2000, and it's in mint condition, and it's extremely accurate! I've shot it A LOT, and I have had zero malfunctions! Anyway, it usually passed through about ~ 1.75" in. of a ~ 2" (dry) phone book. One time, I had a bed pillow behind a ~ 1 in. local phone book, just to help hold it up, and the pillow "captured" a mushroomed-out bullet in the polyester stuffing, yet it didn't pass through the back of the pillow case! I had to dig it out pretty good! It just happened to have slowed down just right! I love .22 rimfire weapons! They're SO much fun! I love firearms in general! 👉
The .22 short rim fire is the oldest continuously made cartridge in the world! It was first a black powder cartridge. The Smith & Wesson #1 was chambered for it in the 1860’s and believe it or not, was used as a personal side arm during the Civil War. It’s great to see tests that show the potential and danger of the .22. Too many people seem to think that a .22 is just a toy
It's dangerous for one reason. Enters the human skull and bounces around in there, before losing energy. Powerful rounds can pass through on occasion, and leave the victim to make a recovery. On occasion. The other reason is, that it's not a feared round. Complacency kills
I like that the Winchester Model 73 was chambered in 22 short among the other calibers. If I recall it lacks a loading gate in the receiver instead loads from the front of the magazine tube as a lot of 22s still do.
I am 72 years old. My uncle's and grandfather hunted with the shorts only. When it came time to kill hogs or a beef it was a 22 short to the head. Yes it was very close range but it worked. The critter went down and the jugular vein was cut. At the sound of the pop we knew hard work and good eats were ahead.
Crazy .22s are no joke and whats more crazy is that there’s elderly watching UA-cam haha that is really interesting sorry i just find it really cool im 18 by the way
I'm the same 72 years young my dad was brought up in the big thicket of texas I've seen him kill hogs and calves with thin a lot he say the was nothing in the thicket that he would not shoot with a short and kill
Long ago I read that some old time single shot , 22 short only rifles had a different rifling twist that made them very accurate. The 22 short would work in 22 long rifle chambers but it lost some of its accuracy due to bullet jump and different rifling twist. By-the-away on 22 short ammo a flat nose bullet kills much better than a hollow point bullet.
Makes you wonder why people today think you can't get the job done with 22lr. In the 60s many hogs and cows went down with 22s. Why do people think they will not work today?
If I recall correctly (and I'm 66 now), the .22 short was often used by contract killers if you could get close, mainly because of the lower sound produced upon firing in sealed breach pistols. (especially if the muzzle was pressed into the victim). In a revolver, the gap between cylinder and barrel was always louder and maybe not much difference between them. TBTW, the .22 short was also the cartridge used in shooting galleries and fairs for a long time (in rifles), again for it's low sound creation. But it was not a "toy" round dispite it's diminutive appearance, as you discovered.
Carnival shooting galleries used a BB or CB cap. The pellet was compressed wood fiber and would splatter harmlessly against the backdrop of the gallery booth.
Galleries used a winchester 22 made for shooting galleries. They are very expensive if you can find them. They used a special 22 short where the lead was compressed lead shavings, Other galleries may have used a different rifle and cartridge, I don't know. I have a winchester 1906 gallery gun, pump with tube feed. Very sweet little rifile.
10:24 If you look at the bullet weight and velocity figures for the two, the .22 short has (roughly) 75% of the energy of the .22LR, so you need to show it every bit as much respect as a LR.
.22 short is so underappreciated these days. Trappers that have used it for years know it will easily dispatch a 35 lb coyote. My Dad used them to kill steers for butchering. .22 short in its hollow point form is a great rat killer around the farm. In a survival kit gun, it takes up so little space that 300 rounds fit in a pants pocket and has the potential to feed you for months in a wilderness setting. It is a good one. Edit note: Forgot I had already left a comment here.
@@robertboreman7672 Yes, prior to the current ammo shortage, CCI .22 short hollow point and solid was available at the better stocked gunshops. I'm not sure about the current status of .22 Long. It was about a dead obsolete cartridge for all practical purposes. It used the same cartridge case as a long rifle but the standard 29 grain bullet of the short. It literally had lasted far beyond its practical reason to exist. There hadn't been a gun that was considered .22 Long only since way before WWII. Snake shot is still around. Or was before the ammo famine...
I can find .22 short in cb (710fps), target (1080fps), and hollow point (1105fps) at a local gun shop right now...the shop even has some .22 cb long (710fps), i've bought one box and might need to get a couple more...we're decent in our stash so i can spend a couple extra dollars on oddball stuff...at worst the stuff would lay waste to rabbits and squirrels...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Stick with the higher speed versions of . 22 short for most purposes. When dispatching coons in traps, I found the slower ones sometimes failed to penetrated skulls. Not to mention the price you pay is pretty premium, and you might as well get the most useful versions for the widest range of applications.
@@GabrielDipo They should also private label some in packages with that slogan that have the Logos from Rememgton, CCI, Speer, Federal, Winchester etc... I would love to display some in my guest bathroom in my home. Oh yeah!!!
I own a Browning auto loader and a Remington bolt action. Both chambered in .22 short. I bought a ton of .22 shorts back the early 90's for (if memory serves) .18¢ a box. I bought 100 bricks, so I still got a lot left. I'm still dispatching rabbits and squirrels with them. Good cheap eatin'.
Deep Cleanse (available at the Info Wars Store) gives the Liberty Movement a 'hole' new meaning. If ya know what I mean. When BS makes Scents, it's time to stock up on TP.
I shot two cow elk in yellow pine idaho with a government model tiger slab side s.s . and 60 grain sub sonic sniper and red dot scope 20 yards in the ear DOWN...AT 73 I HAVE SHOT MANY DEER AND ELK WITH THE LITTLE BITTY 22 L.R. AND VideoED SHOOTING WHISTLE PIGS AT 180 YRDS..
I'm probably older than the shorts(80), and only used long rifle in my pump and pistol because I was shooting rabbits at a much longer range(we ate the cotton tails, which are better than chicken if cooked right). There was no limit in Wyoming at the time, but we only hunted them from November thru February. This was at a time when you could buy a gun thru the Sears or Montgomery Ward catalogs. Never considered the shorts as being wimpy, only that didn't have the characteristics for longer range shooting. Must have been better manufacturers back then, because I don't ever remember any duds with the long range 22 ammo. Thanks for sparking some old memories of a time long gone. I just found your channel. Will stick around for a while to see what it is, or was, all about.
It was a different time Ya know and I am inclined to believe that the average bar-goer would most likely have been much more familiar with firearms and how to properly operate them than say they average bar-goer today. And like I mentioned earlier it was a different time, activities we now consider unimaginably dangerous were just another Tuesday night for them.
@@blackhornedmountainchicken3720 I was thinking about that the other day. As kids we used to play army with BB Guns, jumped our bikes off home-made ramps (no helmets or protective gear of any kind, for height and distance), climbed huge trees as far as we could go to the top, and played with such great toys as Lawn Darts to living snakes. Wounds and broken bones were badges of courage and reminders to do better next time. As teens we would wander the woods with .22's and nobody ever got hurt, adults wouldn't freak out, and the cops didn't GAF. Try doing any of that now without some Karen or LEO pulling rank.
@@gr-s2143 "Oi! You got a loicense for that freedom, mate?" Hell, even you complaining about it warrants a response these days, so I hear. It's a sad state of affairs you have to deal with.
Dad and I used the 22 Short exclusively to consistantly get meat for the table. They were a bit cheaper but nearly, as you've proved, great at taking small game. One year while on a duck hunt my Uncle took his Dear with a 22 short fired from his Great Western 22 pistol in the head. The Dear walked right up to the Duck Blind so it was only about a 15 foot shot but that is still testimony that the 22 Short deserves respect. My Dad didn't believe he got it with a 22 short so he dug the bullet out of the skull and sure enough it matched the size and weight of the Short...Besides Uncle Wally only had Shorts in his pistol all the time. Thanks for proving the effectiveness and comparing today's ammo to yesteryear's...
Hey Jeff , I have always thought that the 22 short Was not useful for really anything , but you just showed me and a lot of other people That we were wrong ! Thank you for sharing All of these things because it brings to light How the look or name of an item can fool Anyone , to the real power or use of an item Is more than what a person (Assumes) of What it really can do !
.22 CB and .22 BB caps - my dad had a box of each when I was a kid. The .22 BB cap is about the size of a muzzleloading percussion cap with a lead BB stuck in it, the CB cap has a conical bullet like the .22 short, but the same size case as the .22 BB cap.
My first rimfire firearm was a S & W .32 long Model 2 from the Civil War; I fired it about four to five times a year then my folks bought me a Colt .22 long rifle Woodsman Automatic pistol. It was very accurate and I would say it would definitely shoot a mile without any problem. I used to go out in the desert and I tested the pistol out at a measured 1 mile distance. I had a 4' by 4' square of 3/4" plywood set up and out box of 50 high velocity .22 cartridges about 10 to 12 hit and that remember was a mile out. I was impressed with the results though none of the bullets went all the way through the plywood. As I remembered it the bullets just barely penetrated the plywood and the angle of the Woodsman was about 25° and I had an "aim here" dot painted on the plywood board. Thank you folks for the demonstration of the .22 short cartridges. I never had any problems with Western ammunition though the box of cartridges I had years ago was .32 ACP and every round fired and ejected from the pistol; albeit I had purchased a partial box at a gun show.
As a young man my father taught me that a 22 cal was the most deadly cal in the US. Believe the box warning. The 22 is deadly at 1 mile. 1-alswys point your rifef in a safe direction. 2- treat every firearm as if it were loaded. 3-do not put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire. 3-don't shoot at anything you don't want to kill. 4-always be aware of your bullet path , and your backstop. Be safe, have fun, and GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸
Need to keep in mind that Smith & Wesson developed the .22 Short as a self-defense round for their No. 1 pocket revolver. At close range with proper placement, is could still be effective.
I've got a new appreciation for the quality of the workmanship in the old days. I knew things were made better back then but I appreciate it more now. Things were made to last back then and now they're made to just beat the warranty. Cheap crap.
We live in a throw away society just go check out a landfill or recycling facility everything is made of the cheapest materials so companies make bigger profits.
The .22 Short is nothing to sneeze at. I'm 67 years old and my grandfather had a .22 Short semi auto rifle that we used to hunt rabbits back when I was just big enough to hold up the rifle. All of my uncles and cousins and brothers learned how to shoot with that rifle and I can't tell you how many cotton tails and jack rabbits we removed from the high plains of West Texas with it.
Grandpa had a little Beretta chambered in 22 short. He swore it saved his life one night on a California Hw at the end of a good month working he was headed back home and some guys pulled up behind him without their lights on, when they tried to force him to stop he "shot out their wind wing" I figure prolly a good chance i would not be here if not for that one round. At about ten years old he started handing it to me with a box of ammo and I'd go out back and shoot by myself while the folks caught each other up on the news. Oh how times they have changed.
I couldn't find any CB shorts, so I went with the Aguila Colibri and Super Colibri. Still quiet and a ton of fun for the back yard. Quieter out of my 4.75" Rough Rider than my $99 Walmart air rifle. Lol
I remember reading about someone using the CBs and swapping out rubber bullets for them. Worked real well for a back-yard shooting gallery or to set up with some cans in a parking lot at work. Sounds like a blast!
I’ve got a bunch of colibri and super colibri cartridges. Also some BB caps and CB caps. Both of the colibri’s are quieter than my RWS air rifles and my old Sheridan. The BB and CB caps are about the same “loudness” as the Sheridan at 8 pumps.
When I was a kid, every caravel had a shooting gallery. The pump Winchester rifles were loaded with shorts. My brother and I would always spend a dollar there. Many of them would knock the sights so they didn't hit straight. This didn't bother Ray, and I would observe where they hit and use Kentucky ballistics and hit the targets and win the prize. Usually at this time we were asked to move on.
@@wildrootvnam1645 Ya it seems only the new school era underestimates the humble little .22, ask any paramedic or trauma surgeon and they will tell ya" you are just as D.O.A with a .22 gunshot wound".
I do all my slaughtering on the "farm" with 22 shorts. When you're basically muzzle to dome you don't want anything bouncing back out at you. But 22short will drop a hog or goat like you wouldn't believe. My grandpa used them on cows.
.22 lr head shots are very deadly. We had a sad murder case here in Germany a few years ago where some old guy didn't like his neigbours partying on the street at New Years eve. He took his .22lr target pistol and fired a round at them from like 15-20 yards away from behind some bushes. He hit a young girl in the head and she basically dropped dead on the spot. .22 lr is not a toy.
I use them after I trap ground hogs in a havaheart trap. Last one I stuck the rifle barrel through the cage (about 4 inches from his head) and he moved when I was pulling the trigger. I don't know where it hit him but he was just sat there looking at me. I shot another this time hitting him between the eyes and when I dumped him out he moved almost 10 feet away before stopping.
the one time i ever saw a young bull get killed and prepared to eat, it was shot in the head with a 22 long rifle. they shot it, and half way through skinning it, the bull started moving around on its own. we ended up having to slit its throat, his meat wasn’t too tender to say the least.
@@jediknight1294 nah I'm in Australia. Nothing is covered by Medicare here, really it only costs about 25-30k aud in Thailand through some really good surgeons like suporn after everything is said and done. If I got it don't locally it would only be about 15 to 20 but the surgeons aren't as good.
@@rebeccafishlock226 In Britain the free healthcare is a myth. A: the citizens pay for it, for them AND a bunch of benefit-seeking inbred fucks; B: It's perhaps the worst healthcare I've ever seen and I've been to countries which are considered "3rd world by modern standards", which is why the above commenter say they will have to spend money on the surgery.
I've also considered the 22 short to be a fairly safe bullet for use in carnival shooting games. Well, they actually exceed that, and you guys showed the 22 short has a lot more power than we've been led to believe. I certainly wouldn't like to be down range from a magazine full of 22 shorts, they appear to make deep holes, and I wouldn't like to have deep holes in me!
Yeah so I was on safari and had a 22 short for plinking. Had an elephant pass by and shot at it randomly, hit it right in the forehead. Fell dead with one shot. Yeah that's what happened. 🙄
@Ben Dover I watched a bull that my grandfather and I butchered take a 125gr. 38 special Hollow point between the eyes and he just shook his head and stared at us. The next round was 165 grain from a 30-06 and it worked quite well.
I've only ever found .22 short casings laying in the dirt, looking ancient. Very cool to see them live and handled by a true marksman! Good to see you Danny and thanks for the excellent video Jeff!
You two guys are an absolute HOOT! Really enjoyed your "highly technical tests" and literary comments! I'm subscribing for more. Thanks! PS: After watching all the way through and repeating several segments I conclude your testing was actually very technical, at least more informative than most I see. Thanks for you efforts bringing great info. and making it fun!
My friends father (a Vietnam vet) used to take us shooting as kids. He always had his .22 short handgun and loved the thing. I had a .22LR and always thought down about the short. Clearly the man knew a lot more than I did. Higher speed isn’t always better.
.22 BB Cap (Bulleted Breech Cap) also known as the 6mm Flobert, is a variety of .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. Invented by Louis-Nicolas Flobert in 1845, it was the first rimfire metallic cartridge.The .22 BB Cap and .22 CB Cap are interchangeable and are relatively quiet low velocity cartridges, designed for indoor target shooting.
The round shorter than a .22 short was the .22 flobert. My dad used to shoot them at the fair back in the 50's. Good to see Danny up and running again.
My first hunting trip when I had just emigrated to Australia aged 13, I went on a trip to the northern part of New South Wales with some friends. The property owner needed some food for the dogs. We went out into the paddocks and had a single shot Lithgow .22. We only had .22 shorts, believe it or not we managed to bag a good sized kangaroo. The dogs had a good feed for the next week. I still have that rifle, I bought it a few years back.
When I was five my grand dad took a yearling to Shorty's Butcher Shop in Durant Okla and Shorty showed me that one 22 short will indeed kill a 600 lb bovine. When I turned 12 I got my own 22 single shot rifle from Western Auto for $20 and 22 shorts were like 35 cents for 50 rounds. I hunted muskrats, jackrabbits, and good eating cottontails and the 22 shorts always delivered one shot kills. Turn 70 this week, and yes I still hunt rabbits with the same single shot rifle.
@@MrTruckerf well, we have more restrictions than you have in America, but we still shoot in shooting ranges or far from cities in places with big farms under consenting of the land lords , or places just far and under populated. I have 22 Ammo from the early 90s like RWS Dynamite Nobel with more grains than normal mini 22Mag , and others old Americans ones.
dalton garrett actually it was invented by Smith & Wesson lengthening the 22 BB cap which used no gun powder, so Smith & Wesson also added gun powder and a heavier bullet which made it much more powerful then the 22 BB cap Which is why you’re probably thinking of
I've shot those very same bullets from my father's 22 revolver. Just seeing that box brought back a ton of great memories shooting that great gun, and the ammo was absolutely perfect, even so many decades old. Bravo!
That really surprised me! But the shorts are much quieter, I use them around the property for that reason. Did not realize they had Quite that much power.
When I was given my first .22 I was told I could roam the woods with it after school but my dad only wanted me to use .22 shorts in those days. I bought them at the hardware store for 50 cents. I had hundreds of hours of fun shooting them. But, the .22 short is to be respected. It's got more power than you think. I always had to make sure of safety. That little round should be taken seriously.
@@AR15andGOD maybe it wouldn’t have been a 22 round in there foot or hand if they had them instead? Maybe they just felt more comfortable with shooting each other with a BB gun because it is less lethal, kinda like handing a kid a gun vs a can of pepper spray... it’s probably far more likely for them to spray the pepper spray on someone for fun, especially with a BB gun you’ve got kids knowing there less lethal so they try it out on one another
Accuracy is the most important thing, of course. 22's are accurate to 75 yards, as accurate as the conditions will allow and the abilities of the shooter. any sought of bullet that pierces your skin is going to be bad for your health to say the least.
Have you seen Paul Harrel's video ".22 Rifles for home Defense", where he puts this to the test? Well, he tests missing with a 44 Magnum, but the same principle is the same. He also tests if a 22 is better than nothing.
I remember my grandfather gave my dad a box of 22 shorts for pest control when we lived in a location with very close neighbors because they were quieter he also said they were fine to shoot inside lol
My father (since passed) had some 22 ammo from the late 20's, when he was a boy. We shot about the whole box 4 years ago. Not a one failed to go off! I would not be concerned or hesitate to shoot old ammo if the need arose.
Yeah, I have an old 6mm Flobert single shot repeater, we call them Zimmerstutzen (room-stutzen) in Germany, as they were used to plink indoors and in pubs up until the early 60s here, people also used them to shoot rats and mice.
Love the ballistic tests with the different mediums, especially the gel! Loved seeing ol Danny boy!! He was so cool and funny as hell too! God's Speed Danny!
@@gabrielgarzoni1958 a lot of off the shelf cheaper air riffles you can buy for around $200 go up to 1400 fps that are break overs but you can get some that have the built in air tanks that can be from 30 to 50 cal that shoot way faster and you can hunt medium-sized game like deer with them
When I was a young man in the seventies possums and skunks were $0.50 a piece. I would trade even up with the fur buyer for a box of 22 shorts. I was in 4th grade. You always knew what hunting season was in because we always had a rifle or shotgun in our gun rack in the back window of our pickup trucks even parked in the school parking lot. Try doing that today see what happens?
What a great story! And a sad one too. This world has become afraid of everything. What is kind of funny, because in our youth was the Cold War with a REAL threat of being killed by someone on the other side of the planet.
I have a Remington model 550 it's at least 65 years old and it is stamped 22 short long or long rifle, I have never tried shooting shorts out if it. May pick up a box next time I see some.
Many years ago I, as a young deputy sheriff, I was was sent to the scene of a shooting victim. The victim was the son of my supervisor. His estranged girlfriend shot him once with a.22 short in the chest. He was dead by the time he hit the floor. The victim was trying to wrestle the.22 revolver from his ex girlfriend’s hand when the revolver was fired causing the round to hit him in the chest at point blank range. In short, (pun intended), he was just as dead from that small round as he would have been from a large caliber round!
. I used to work at a locker plant. We shot the cattle in the head with a 22 short. Today they use a steel rod with air pressure. And yes sir you are correct 22 shorts are deadly
22s will bounce around inside you and turn your insides into hamburger. A close head shot is powerful enough to penetrate your skull, scramble your brain, and QUIET. That's why the Mob uses them.
@@joedoomsdaypio4374 the .22lr bouncing around your insides is false actually. in order to "bounce" they'd need to hit a rib and they'd only travel several inches. I've seen autopsies involving the .22lr.
CCI makes a shorter round than a short called a CB. They are quieter than a pellet rifle coming out of my old Winchester 67a. So glad to see Danny back on line.
I've got a little youth Henry I'd like to try some of the shorts, CBs, and (had not heard of) BB caps in. I wonder about being able to cycle them properly through the lever action. With my semi auto, of course, they would not cycle properly. But I was able to hold the charging handle closed with my left hand and cycle it somewhat like a pump.
Derek DeLamar that'd be a neat experiment. When we were kids we had single-shot bolt Marlins and Remingtons and the like. Like a break-action shotgun you could fire whatever.
My grandmother kept a revolver in 22 short in her house for personal protection I always thought to myself what in the world is that little thing going to do if someone broke in but I guess if you aim in the right spot and pop 6 in someone It will definitely stop them
I've seen some old and moldy, still fire. Shame it's such a hard reload. .22 is an awesome goto and 0 recoil. It's off the shelf here. Due to the round being so small a tight the rebound is a concern. Be wise, be safe. God bless all Gods Free People, so many countries it's just a past memory. Do not allow what happened to us happen to you. FREEDOM MATTERS.
.22 BB Cap are the Shortest ones - They were perfect for shooting indoors or in the Hen house without disturbing the other animals too much. I once shot out a porch light at about 40 yards with one. Good to See Danny!
@@AutoCrete It actually didn't drop too much at that distance (maybe an inch?) but my shot was just on the right edge of the lamps frame that holds the glass and the glass broke because the shot had just enough energy to knock a little dimple in the fairly flimsy metal. The Wind was very calm and i was using a very nice old .22 bolt action target rifle that is a tack driver which also I'm sure played a part. I do recall though looking at my handy work and being pretty amused that a standing cold first shot out my bedroom window on a target 4 inches wide when I was nervous about never having shot one and not knowing how it was going to sound - hit about 2" off to the right and down an inch or so from my aim point. I was impressed with the BB Cap immensely after that and was sad they weren't common anymore because they are ridiculously quiet and fun to shoot.
@@AutoCrete Also they were the ones that had just a little half round-ish dome on them and they were quite old so maybe they were just awesome then! : D
@@Sp1der44 I haven't shot a BB cap in over 30 years but do remember LMAO at the tiny 'peh' noise that it made. I was told they were made for target practice in the basement. I'd imagine you could kill a rabbit with one but it would have to be nibbling at a carrot taped to the bottom of the end of a barrel.
I'm the same age as those 22 shorts. I should have opted for the wax coating to maintain my potency.
There was a weaker round in the 60's called a "CB". I killed a pigeon at 100 ft, So quiet you couldn't hear it. Same dimensions as the short. Probably just a weaker load.
@@maritimedragon CB's were still around 15 years ago, haven't seen lately, but that doesn't mean they don't still make. I bought some "quiet" rounds to try in my single action...still too loud for bare ears on the indoor range.
@@weaselduke CCI still makes CB rounds in both 22 short and 22 long variants. The point of a CB is primarily for gallery shooting, quiet and low power.
@@mac11380 the colibri has no powder. The super colibri has a tiny amount so you can use them in rifles without squibing.
@@thatguyoverthere9634 we called 'em "carnival rounds" because they used 'em in the shooting gallery on the midway at carnies...was some of the best days of my life...
"Toilet paper is surprisingly hard to penetrate"
Apparently my finger didn't get the memo
Well, getting in touch with your inner self once in while is ok.
Not shaking YOUR hand.
I used baby wipes once about 10 years ago when I ran out of toilet paper…I never bought toilet paper again after that.
@@ImSpun13 how’s your plumbing holding up flushing all those ass towels?
@@andyy361
I don’t flush them. I have a garbage thing for dirty diapers, I use that.
I too, use .22 short ammo. in my single shot rifles and they do 'the job' exceptionally well.
I've used this size of .22 cal. ammunition for darned near as long as those, you have there, have been around. They've provided me and my buddies with endless hours of shooting / plinking fun.
Many great memories are coming back to me as I watch this video.
Thanks Jeff and Danny for this one!
I had a Baby Savage .22 rifle and an endless supply of .22 shorts when I was a kid (11 years old), and I shot 1000s and 1000s of rounds through it. If we weren't in school, my cousins and I were out in the hills and forests shooting every day. It never even occurred to me that someone could actually get killed with it, BUT before we ever touched a gun we were taught to respect all firearms and how to safely handle them.
Good times.
Yeah I would buy them by the brick . 22 match master , Remington .
And if all kids were taught that today and taught how to shoot, there would be no gun crime at all.
@@banjohappy well vastly reduced.
@@banjohappy keep dreaming
Used to buy them for 50c/box at the local grocery store. Man, the good ole days!
Those were sweet times!
Those were sweet times!
Yes, $.50
Now there 20 cents a piece or more if you can find them
How much was a gallon of gas in those days ? Compared to your wages.
Really, really happy to see Danny back. Need to see him and OG in the same video. Wishing ya many more years of shooting Danny, glad your back.
😢
RIP
I'm 52. I have a couple of old .22 shorts from about this era. Made here in Melbourne Australia by ICI (Imperial Chemical Industries), a British company that has not existed since I was a kid, but my Mum worked there as a receptionist until she had us kids in the late 60's. These rounds are probably from when my late Gandfather would take my Dad and the rest of his brother (expat Irish family, lots of 'em) huntin' rabbits back in the 50's. My family was dirt poor in the day, and most of them were use air rifles. My Pop wouldn't waste the price of .22 long on a rabbit, despite the families "pea rifle" being chambered for all the available stuff and the rest of the family wanting to hear the bang. Dad and his older brother Don could take out most bunnies with their Crackerjack air rifles. The .22 short was reserved for distant bunnies only. And when you hunt...two bunnies for the stew. Two for the pot when you get home, and the rest sold to local butchers. One time the came home with about 30 of the things hanging off the bumper of the vehicle the had....late, and the bunnies already starting to pong. Nanna Babe stewed em well and made them eat them all. She was four feet of Cornish Toughness. I can just remember her.
I enjoyed reading your comment. Thank you for the story.
Only animals Ive ever hunted are rabbits, squerels, frogs and turtles. And one aligator that I took with a .22lr
Interesting story, I'm 62 and got my first gun a .22 caliber rifle when I was 8 years old, my father bought it from the nextdoor neighbor for $10
A Winchester model 60, great little rifle and very accurate! Good Day.
So cool to hear other folks around the world use 'em just like we do. I use the CB caps, or Aguila super Colibri,Quiet,slow, efficient. 'Neighbor Friendly'. Quieter than a BB gun, heavy hitters for the size, and quiet...while using the good ole .22...Nice to see Family making do, with the stew...love it. I do woodchucks/Groundhogs with 'em...don't eat 'em tho.... and they pop Red Squirrels quick 'n painless. Good ammo for city/urban folk. Test in your gun, .22 shorts are loud, CB or Super Colibri Aguila are very stealthy/quiet. Enjoy folks!
I worked for ICI National Starch back around 2007-2008. Actually, they were a customer of my IT company where we did server support and hardware monitoring. I believe National Starch was the parent company - but they were still referred to as "ICI" in all of our communications.
As a kid in the 1950’s, the .22 short was my choice for small game hunting and it did the job very well! I used a old bolt action single shot rifle left to me by an uncle who used the rifle in the early 1940’s and I still have the rifle👍
Mr. Engle
With these fools trying to take guns.
I hope you can keep your gun for many more years.
Same exact story for me. Bro! ! 🇺🇸
Ken, I have a Henry 22 Golden Boy, which I have had for years and have never even loaded it. It is still in the box and wrapped in plastic and it will go to my Great Grandson someday, Take care!
We called that single shot bolt a rabbit gun when we were kids. It misfired half of the time.
Cool I have an old Remington 1934 with the tube load bolt action
Dad bought them by the brick for us boys when we lived on the dairy farm in Duval Washington in the sixties. Back then we carried our 22s into town, unloaded by the time we hit town of course, but could you imagine that happening these days? I'm glad to have once lived in a truly free America!
LOL I could imagine media sh#*ing bricks having screeching tantrums about gun control if that happened now a days. It would be hilarious but also annoying.
We always bought bricks of ammo
In my state you can open carry or conceal carry loaded weapons
@@nadaherepceexcept for certain places, open carry is legal Washington state .
I'm purdy sure the only Free America was after the The Americans chased on the Brits until the Civil war which was used to Instill a puppet government.
America became the Military industrial complex extension of Britain.
Why else did they go from conquestors to participants and now the states does what the British did.
The Nzs killed how many and considered monsters.
Can we get a Civil kill count for the States over the last 10, 20 and 30 years.
Can we get a civilian vs terrorist kill count under each of the last 5 Potuses?
It's amazing the differance a year can make. :( R.I.P. Danny. He was such a great marksmen.
Decades ago I was shot accidentally at distance, about 300 yards . I was apparently unseen, being partially blocked by a hump in the terrain.. He missed his prey and I was hit thru the shoulder, I learned later by a 22LR high-power, regular point. I was told if I had been standing 6 inches to the left or turned a little to the right I wouldn't be here today. Although I was lucky it missed all the important things, I still lost a lot of blood by the time I reached the hospital. There was no sensation of blunt force impact, it was just a beam of heat passing thru the entire depth of my shoulder and into my scapula. No other way to describe it. I hadn't realized what happened until I saw the blood pouring down my arm. The pain, more like a very deep severe ache but not quite as bad as getting kicked in the n--ts, didn't come until about a half-hour later. Adrenaline does work. 3 hours later they did the surgery and I was NOT put under since they said the bullet had been deflected by the scapula and landed just short of exiting. The extraction hurt worse than getting shot. To anyone who thinks a 22 is a sissy round, they need to get in a time machine and I will gladly put them in my boots. Don't worry, I remember about where I was walking and somewhat how I was positioned when it hit. Based on what I experienced at long range, I would not want to be hit anywhere by a 22 Short at close range, no way .. I have been shot at since then with bigger stuff, but during those times I was well-aware what was happening and we were returning fire
wow thats quite the story. im glad you were ok in the end. what were you shot with the second time if you dont mind me asking?
Thanks for sharing your experience.
@@kyle18934 sounds like he was omitting to the fact he went to war or something
My friend got shot in the back by a 22 short fired from a tiny little 22 revolver and thankfully for him an ambulance was just down the road less than a minute away and they saved his life because it collapsed his lung and he was drowning in his own blood.
@@firmfire2385 i think you meant alluding
The 22 is the most underrated and made fun of round out there. This round and it's variants are among the most versatile caliber there is. It's like a little dirty secret or something. I love my 22's, they have fed me and have protected countless others through years.
People laugh until one of them drills a wee hole in their ass. Then they ain't laughing
I’ve always had a soft spot for .22short. I grew up shooting them into phone books with a Iver Johnson Trailsman 66 in my basement.
I use a box of paperback books and use the hallway for a longer range.
For someone who grew up in a European country that sounds dope
@@drinkme6803 To think that over 100 years ago having a shooting range in your parlor was a very European thing. They even specifically made guns for it.
@Mike Nolan My local gunshop.
LOL . . . You're not alone! I was very careful doing this, but I used to shoot old phone books with my 15-shot .22 LR Marlin Model 60 semi-auto rifle, inside of my house (specifically in my bedroom), since I unfortunately live in city limits. However, my double-action Harrington & Richardson 9-shot revolver and my Stevens Model 87T semi-auto rifle will shoot .22 Short, .22 Long, and .22 LR. I love my Marlin Model 60! I only paid $20 it back in 2000, and it's in mint condition, and it's extremely accurate! I've shot it A LOT, and I have had zero malfunctions! Anyway, it usually passed through about ~ 1.75" in. of a ~ 2" (dry) phone book. One time, I had a bed pillow behind a ~ 1 in. local phone book, just to help hold it up, and the pillow "captured" a mushroomed-out bullet in the polyester stuffing, yet it didn't pass through the back of the pillow case! I had to dig it out pretty good! It just happened to have slowed down just right! I love .22 rimfire weapons! They're SO much fun! I love firearms in general! 👉
The .22 short rim fire is the oldest continuously made cartridge in the world! It was first a black powder cartridge. The Smith & Wesson #1 was chambered for it in the 1860’s and believe it or not, was used as a personal side arm during the Civil War. It’s great to see tests that show the potential and danger of the .22. Too many people seem to think that a .22 is just a toy
It was the original .22 rimfire
@@wesleyhalpern184 must be the same time when Henry made his .44 rim fire?
Not a toy,deadly,deadly
It's dangerous for one reason. Enters the human skull and bounces around in there, before losing energy. Powerful rounds can pass through on occasion, and leave the victim to make a recovery. On occasion.
The other reason is, that it's not a feared round. Complacency kills
I like that the Winchester Model 73 was chambered in 22 short among the other calibers. If I recall it lacks a loading gate in the receiver instead loads from the front of the magazine tube as a lot of 22s still do.
I am 72 years old. My uncle's and grandfather hunted with the shorts only. When it came time to kill hogs or a beef it was a 22 short to the head. Yes it was very close range but it worked. The critter went down and the jugular vein was cut. At the sound of the pop we knew hard work and good eats were ahead.
Crazy .22s are no joke and whats more crazy is that there’s elderly watching UA-cam haha that is really interesting sorry i just find it really cool im 18 by the way
I'm the same 72 years young my dad was brought up in the big thicket of texas I've seen him kill hogs and calves with thin a lot he say the was nothing in the thicket that he would not shoot with a short and kill
Long ago I read that some old time single shot , 22 short only rifles had a different rifling twist that made them very accurate. The 22 short would work in 22 long rifle chambers but it lost some of its accuracy due to bullet jump and different rifling twist. By-the-away on 22 short ammo a flat nose bullet kills much better than a hollow point bullet.
Good memories. you lived in a good time where life was simple. Bravo sir and i hope you live a long and happy life.
Makes you wonder why people today think you can't get the job done with 22lr. In the 60s many hogs and cows went down with 22s. Why do people think they will not work today?
If I recall correctly (and I'm 66 now), the .22 short was often used by contract killers if you could get close, mainly because of the lower sound produced upon firing in sealed breach pistols. (especially if the muzzle was pressed into the victim). In a revolver, the gap between cylinder and barrel was always louder and maybe not much difference between them.
TBTW, the .22 short was also the cartridge used in shooting galleries and fairs for a long time (in rifles), again for it's low sound creation. But it was not a "toy" round dispite it's diminutive appearance, as you discovered.
Carnival shooting galleries used a BB or CB cap. The pellet was compressed wood fiber and would splatter harmlessly against the backdrop of the gallery booth.
Galleries used a winchester 22 made for shooting galleries. They are very expensive if you can find them. They used a special 22 short where the lead was compressed lead shavings, Other galleries may have used a different rifle and cartridge, I don't know. I have a winchester 1906 gallery gun, pump with tube feed. Very sweet little rifile.
Well said
Coincidentally, Ballistic Banana is my stage name.
Because your banana shoots off instantly?
He usually performs with his partner ballistic toilet paper 😆
It does have a certain appeal...
@@scottboyd785 i like this comment a bunch!
OG
Looking at all these .22 ammo really hit me hard with nostalgia. Brings childhood back to the front of my mind.
10:24 If you look at the bullet weight and velocity figures for the two, the .22 short has (roughly) 75% of the energy of the .22LR, so you need to show it every bit as much respect as a LR.
The .22 short is actually the original self defense cartridge. Believe it or not. I learned to respect the round long ago.
Had to start somewhere.
.22 short is so underappreciated these days. Trappers that have used it for years know it will easily dispatch a 35 lb coyote. My Dad used them to kill steers for butchering. .22 short in its hollow point form is a great rat killer around the farm. In a survival kit gun, it takes up so little space that 300 rounds fit in a pants pocket and has the potential to feed you for months in a wilderness setting. It is a good one. Edit note: Forgot I had already left a comment here.
Don't forget the old snake shot.Didn't know they made 22 short hollow points. Haven't seen 22 shorts or longs in years.
@@robertboreman7672 Yes, prior to the current ammo shortage, CCI .22 short hollow point and solid was available at the better stocked gunshops. I'm not sure about the current status of .22 Long. It was about a dead obsolete cartridge for all practical purposes. It used the same cartridge case as a long rifle but the standard 29 grain bullet of the short. It literally had lasted far beyond its practical reason to exist. There hadn't been a gun that was considered .22 Long only since way before WWII. Snake shot is still around. Or was before the ammo famine...
They’re tough to find nowadays.
I can find .22 short in cb (710fps), target (1080fps), and hollow point (1105fps) at a local gun shop right now...the shop even has some .22 cb long (710fps), i've bought one box and might need to get a couple more...we're decent in our stash so i can spend a couple extra dollars on oddball stuff...at worst the stuff would lay waste to rabbits and squirrels...
@@PetuniaIii-pd1ww Stick with the higher speed versions of . 22 short for most purposes. When dispatching coons in traps, I found the slower ones sometimes failed to penetrated skulls. Not to mention the price you pay is pretty premium, and you might as well get the most useful versions for the widest range of applications.
“Slightly mushroomed and a little deviated to the right”. That about describes my 22 short as well.
I love white people
This is a good comment.
F
made my morning coffee break, thanks.
Yep that's me too...
Finally, someone who agrees that .22 isn't just a useless cartridge.
Mafia hit men have always known that.
It's by far the bestselling cartridge so a lot of people believe it, even if they don't say it.
Only really good for lots and lots of cheap range time.. or close up and personal..
Yeah...That Saturday Night Special shoots just as well on any other day too.
Was about to say something about mob hitmen, but I see somebody beat me to the punch
Nice to look back and see Danny in good spirits and strong! Miss him immensely.
You didn't even know the guy. Quit it with the overly dramatic sympathy.
Man that sucks to hear that he passed.
*They're little baby 22LRs!* 😍
"Toilet paper is actually hard to penetrate"...
Try using a finger. A single finger.
Best comment ever...
Well, if that happens, don’t use your finger to sign your name on the wall! DNA would also show who was there.
@Corn Pop Star Trek imported andrex from Britain. It was guaranteed to wipe out the klingons!
😒😑....
Haaaaaate the poke-thru
“Nice clean exit hole” would be a great slogan for toilet paper
Holy hell 😂😂😂😂😂 nice
EXCELLENT SLOGAN.
@@GabrielDipo They should also private label some in packages with that slogan that have the Logos from Rememgton, CCI, Speer, Federal, Winchester etc... I would love to display some in my guest bathroom in my home. Oh yeah!!!
You win this comments section.
@@High_Lord_Of_Terra I’m so glad people saw it haha it still makes me chuckle
I own a Browning auto loader and a Remington bolt action. Both chambered in .22 short. I bought a ton of .22 shorts back the early 90's for (if memory serves) .18¢ a box. I bought 100 bricks, so I still got a lot left. I'm still dispatching rabbits and squirrels with them. Good cheap eatin'.
You will have a CLEAN Exit Hole.
It's Toilet Roll, that's what it was designed for.
Deep Cleanse (available at the Info Wars Store) gives the Liberty Movement a 'hole' new meaning. If ya know what I mean.
When BS makes Scents, it's time to stock up on TP.
Someone had to say that.
You deserve top comment for this
🤣🤣🤣
@@humboldthammer 🤣🤣🤣
Yup, that's what it looked like back when I started shooting! Shorts, longs, and long rifle! Loved those old boxes. I saved the empty ones as a boy.
I shot two cow elk in yellow pine idaho
with a government model tiger slab side s.s . and 60 grain sub sonic sniper and red dot scope 20 yards in the ear
DOWN...AT 73 I HAVE SHOT MANY DEER AND ELK WITH THE LITTLE BITTY 22 L.R.
AND VideoED SHOOTING WHISTLE PIGS AT 180 YRDS..
We could buy them in most hardware stores .
Now we know who stockpiled all the toilet paper from Walmart back in March.
R.I.P. Danny!!! Your very well Loved & Missed!!! Its hard to believe your gone..... Im rewatching all of the vids with him in it!!! He was the Man!!!
I haven’t worn a size 22 shorts since I was in grade school
I love your profile pic!
That's it. Take your like and see yourself out.
Gotta have an old semi auto to run them semi
I hear ya! I’m more like a 38 special now but want to be a 357 mag...
Its good to see Danny back.
That’s for sure
Danny: “This started out as three inches.”
Me: “That’s what she said!”
Love the channel guys!!
Mine ends at two inches
Haha grower not a shower
12:52 Expansion where you need it..! Lol
Mines a lot longer than that but it's skinny
@@danr5704 TMI BUT STILL FUNNY AF
I'm probably older than the shorts(80), and only used long rifle in my pump and pistol because I was shooting rabbits at a much longer range(we ate the cotton tails, which are better than chicken if cooked right). There was no limit in Wyoming at the time, but we only hunted them from November thru February. This was at a time when you could buy a gun thru the Sears or Montgomery Ward catalogs. Never considered the shorts as being wimpy, only that didn't have the characteristics for longer range shooting. Must have been better manufacturers back then, because I don't ever remember any duds with the long range 22 ammo. Thanks for sparking some old memories of a time long gone. I just found your channel. Will stick around for a while to see what it is, or was, all about.
I don't have a beef with anyone on this channel but I do like watching Danny "accelerate mass" at a target. Good to see you back!!
The CBs and shorts were used a lot for indoor shooting galleries back in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.
I still find it strange that people used to get drunk and go shooting with little plinking pistols or rifles
@@justincarroll1836 what a time to be alive
It was a different time Ya know and I am inclined to believe that the average bar-goer would most likely have been much more familiar with firearms and how to properly operate them than say they average bar-goer today. And like I mentioned earlier it was a different time, activities we now consider unimaginably dangerous were just another Tuesday night for them.
@@blackhornedmountainchicken3720 I was thinking about that the other day. As kids we used to play army with BB Guns, jumped our bikes off home-made ramps (no helmets or protective gear of any kind, for height and distance), climbed huge trees as far as we could go to the top, and played with such great toys as Lawn Darts to living snakes. Wounds and broken bones were badges of courage and reminders to do better next time. As teens we would wander the woods with .22's and nobody ever got hurt, adults wouldn't freak out, and the cops didn't GAF. Try doing any of that now without some Karen or LEO pulling rank.
@@gr-s2143 "Oi! You got a loicense for that freedom, mate?"
Hell, even you complaining about it warrants a response these days, so I hear. It's a sad state of affairs you have to deal with.
Dad and I used the 22 Short exclusively to consistantly get meat for the table. They were a bit cheaper but nearly, as you've proved, great at taking small game. One year while on a duck hunt my Uncle took his Dear with a 22 short fired from his Great Western 22 pistol in the head. The Dear walked right up to the Duck Blind so it was only about a 15 foot shot but that is still testimony that the 22 Short deserves respect. My Dad didn't believe he got it with a 22 short so he dug the bullet out of the skull and sure enough it matched the size and weight of the Short...Besides Uncle Wally only had Shorts in his pistol all the time.
Thanks for proving the effectiveness and comparing today's ammo to yesteryear's...
Deer*
Lol
.22 shorts don't spook the game nearly as bad as .22LR
Hey Jeff ,
I have always thought that the 22 short
Was not useful for really anything , but you just showed me and a lot of other people
That we were wrong ! Thank you for sharing
All of these things because it brings to light
How the look or name of an item can fool
Anyone , to the real power or use of an item
Is more than what a person (Assumes) of
What it really can do !
I've always learned from experience not my own expectations 🙂
I'm glad to see that no Playboy, Gun or Hifi magazines were harmed in making this video. Interesting and well done, thanks.
I hope Danny's shoulder isn't to sore after all that shooting.
@EMILIANO BARRIOS CHAVEZ it’s ironic humour
@EMILIANO BARRIOS CHAVEZ sarcasm mate.
@EMILIANO BARRIOS CHAVEZ yea obviously 🙄
@EMILIANO BARRIOS CHAVEZ 🤦♂️
169 likes nice not gonna ruin it
.22 CB and .22 BB caps - my dad had a box of each when I was a kid. The .22 BB cap is about the size of a muzzleloading percussion cap with a lead BB stuck in it, the CB cap has a conical bullet like the .22 short, but the same size case as the .22 BB cap.
My first rimfire firearm was a S & W .32 long Model 2 from the Civil War; I fired it about four to five times a year then my folks bought me a Colt .22 long rifle Woodsman Automatic pistol. It was very accurate and I would say it would definitely shoot a mile without any problem. I used to go out in the desert and I tested the pistol out at a measured 1 mile distance. I had a 4' by 4' square of 3/4" plywood set up and out box of 50 high velocity .22 cartridges about 10 to 12 hit and that remember was a mile out. I was impressed with the results though none of the bullets went all the way through the plywood. As I remembered it the bullets just barely penetrated the plywood and the angle of the Woodsman was about 25° and I had an "aim here" dot painted on the plywood board.
Thank you folks for the demonstration of the .22 short cartridges. I never had any problems with Western ammunition though the box of cartridges I had years ago was .32 ACP and every round fired and ejected from the pistol; albeit I had purchased a partial box at a gun show.
As a young man my father taught me that a 22 cal was the most deadly cal in the US. Believe the box warning. The 22 is deadly at 1 mile.
1-alswys point your rifef in a safe direction.
2- treat every firearm as if it were loaded.
3-do not put your finger on the trigger until you're ready to fire.
3-don't shoot at anything you don't want to kill.
4-always be aware of your bullet path , and your backstop.
Be safe, have fun, and GOD BLESS AMERICA 🇺🇸
Need to keep in mind that Smith & Wesson developed the .22 Short as a self-defense round for their No. 1 pocket revolver. At close range with proper placement, is could still be effective.
I've got a new appreciation for the quality of the workmanship in the old days. I knew things were made better back then but I appreciate it more now. Things were made to last back then and now they're made to just beat the warranty. Cheap crap.
J Wat I say that almost every day 😕. 🇺🇸😎
Yeah everything is designed to fail now so you buy more
100% everything is designed to fail now. It's disgusting.
We live in a throw away society just go check out a landfill or recycling facility everything is made of the cheapest materials so companies make bigger profits.
The .22 Short is nothing to sneeze at. I'm 67 years old and my grandfather had a .22 Short semi auto rifle that we used to hunt rabbits back when I was just big enough to hold up the rifle. All of my uncles and cousins and brothers learned how to shoot with that rifle and I can't tell you how many cotton tails and jack rabbits we removed from the high plains of West Texas with it.
CCI still makes CB Long or CB Short 22 ammo
Listed as a 29 gr bullet at 710 FPS
Great for pest shooting
Grandpa had a little Beretta chambered in 22 short. He swore it saved his life one night on a California Hw at the end of a good month working he was headed back home and some guys pulled up behind him without their lights on, when they tried to force him to stop he "shot out their wind wing" I figure prolly a good chance i would not be here if not for that one round. At about ten years old he started handing it to me with a box of ammo and I'd go out back and shoot by myself while the folks caught each other up on the news. Oh how times they have changed.
@Wuumi he shot out their window with a 22 short. Pretty sure only thing hurt was their pickup truck and your feelings lolz
You do realise shooting at someone for driving behind you is insane right?
@@PickIeweasel maybe reread my comment and try again?
CB-shorts, short case, primer, little or no powder, hell-of-a-lot-of-fun.
I couldn't find any CB shorts, so I went with the Aguila Colibri and Super Colibri. Still quiet and a ton of fun for the back yard. Quieter out of my 4.75" Rough Rider than my $99 Walmart air rifle. Lol
@@wolfhuntersarmory I must have gotten them 20 - 30 years ago. Did you supply the ammo for this video?
@@buddyadams4781 I wish I had. Lol. I don't have anything that old.
I remember reading about someone using the CBs and swapping out rubber bullets for them. Worked real well for a back-yard shooting gallery or to set up with some cans in a parking lot at work. Sounds like a blast!
I’ve got a bunch of colibri and super colibri cartridges. Also some BB caps and CB caps. Both of the colibri’s are quieter than my RWS air rifles and my old Sheridan. The BB and CB caps are about the same “loudness” as the Sheridan at 8 pumps.
When I was a kid, every caravel had a shooting gallery. The pump Winchester rifles were loaded with shorts. My brother and I would always spend a dollar there. Many of them would knock the sights so they didn't hit straight. This didn't bother Ray, and I would observe where they hit and use Kentucky ballistics and hit the targets and win the prize. Usually at this time we were asked to move on.
I recognize that box of old super x, I used to bullseye womp rats with them back home in my T-16.
Ok Luke
@@DeadInsideButStillSmiling I'm the Dude, so that's what you call me.
I still have some old Western 22 shorts! Got some old Western shot shells too! Reminds me of my youth I guess.
@@wildrootvnam1645 Ya it seems only the new school era underestimates the humble little .22, ask any paramedic or trauma surgeon and they will tell ya" you are just as D.O.A with a .22 gunshot wound".
There are actually 2 smaller 22s the CB cap and the BB cap
BB Caps sounded like a loud Clap out of my Target Rifle - A dude gave me five of them back in the day - they were awesome to shoot! : D
Cb is based on the short and long iirc. Surprised to find another that knows of the elusive bb cap.
CCI still loads CB's. I used to dispatch hutch rabbits with them,even a CB will kill
I have some with a acorn on the bottom and are pointed. Not sure if that’s what you guys are talking about
Aquila super Colibri with primer only are the most fun.
YAY Danny is back!!! Damn nice to see he is feeling well again.
I like how when you bring up that statistic of the 22 being technically the most deadly cartridge in this country triggers so many people
Cheapest reliable ammo will always be the deadliest.
Damnit Bobby
That boy ain't right, but he's got a point
An AR is just a 22 in a bigger casing. That's the funniest thing to me because so many don't understand that.
@@JimboJuice cci is best I think that's about the only ammo my wife runs through her tx22
I do all my slaughtering on the "farm" with 22 shorts. When you're basically muzzle to dome you don't want anything bouncing back out at you. But 22short will drop a hog or goat like you wouldn't believe. My grandpa used them on cows.
Yep you can instantly kill big steers with it if you wanted to.
.22 lr head shots are very deadly. We had a sad murder case here in Germany a few years ago where some old guy didn't like his neigbours partying on the street at New Years eve. He took his .22lr target pistol and fired a round at them from like 15-20 yards away from behind some bushes. He hit a young girl in the head and she basically dropped dead on the spot.
.22 lr is not a toy.
Yep, my grandfather's round of choice on livestock.
I use them after I trap ground hogs in a havaheart trap. Last one I stuck the rifle barrel through the cage (about 4 inches from his head) and he moved when I was pulling the trigger. I don't know where it hit him but he was just sat there looking at me. I shot another this time hitting him between the eyes and when I dumped him out he moved almost 10 feet away before stopping.
the one time i ever saw a young bull get killed and prepared to eat, it was shot in the head with a 22 long rifle. they shot it, and half way through skinning it, the bull started moving around on its own. we ended up having to slit its throat, his meat wasn’t too tender to say the least.
"The idea of using toilet paper is due to all that excess, hoarded toilet paper." lol
Just keep in mind, those slugs won't flush.
relaaax, that tp is still useable..
Yep he was the one buying trailer loads of TP and Pasta at wall k mart
Yeah, I'm missing a flap here and there too. But I'm still mostly fully functional. 😂
I'm gonna be paying a surgeon in Thailand $40k to remove my flap!
I've somehow got more flaps all over
@@rebeccafishlock226 40 sounds crazy can you not get it done in the US cheaper? Cali? My stuff will cost about the same tbh in the UK.
@@jediknight1294 nah I'm in Australia. Nothing is covered by Medicare here, really it only costs about 25-30k aud in Thailand through some really good surgeons like suporn after everything is said and done. If I got it don't locally it would only be about 15 to 20 but the surgeons aren't as good.
@@rebeccafishlock226 In Britain the free healthcare is a myth. A: the citizens pay for it, for them AND a bunch of benefit-seeking inbred fucks; B: It's perhaps the worst healthcare I've ever seen and I've been to countries which are considered "3rd world by modern standards", which is why the above commenter say they will have to spend money on the surgery.
I've also considered the 22 short to be a fairly safe bullet for use in carnival shooting games. Well, they actually exceed that, and you guys showed the 22 short has a lot more power than we've been led to believe. I certainly wouldn't like to be down range from a magazine full of 22 shorts, they appear to make deep holes, and I wouldn't like to have deep holes in me!
The .22 BB or CB cap was used for gallery guns. Primer only, no powder. Aguila sells them as Colibri.
Although it is illegal, I have seen whitetail deer killed instantly with a well placed headshot from a .22 short
I've dispatched some big wild hogs in traps with them. They always drop with one shot.
all the more reason why shot placement is as important (if not more so) than the more expensive rounds.
Bang
Yeah so I was on safari and had a 22 short for plinking. Had an elephant pass by and shot at it randomly, hit it right in the forehead. Fell dead with one shot. Yeah that's what happened. 🙄
@Ben Dover I watched a bull that my grandfather and I butchered take a 125gr. 38 special Hollow point between the eyes and he just shook his head and stared at us. The next round was 165 grain from a 30-06 and it worked quite well.
I've only ever found .22 short casings laying in the dirt, looking ancient. Very cool to see them live and handled by a true marksman! Good to see you Danny and thanks for the excellent video Jeff!
You two guys are an absolute HOOT! Really enjoyed your "highly technical tests" and literary comments! I'm subscribing for more. Thanks!
PS: After watching all the way through and repeating several segments I conclude your testing was actually very technical, at least more informative than most I see. Thanks for you efforts bringing great info. and making it fun!
Thank you very much!
My friends father (a Vietnam vet) used to take us shooting as kids. He always had his .22 short handgun and loved the thing. I had a .22LR and always thought down about the short. Clearly the man knew a lot more than I did. Higher speed isn’t always better.
At 3:10 Danny was probably thinking of 22 CB rounds.
Yep, I've got a bunch of those.
.22 BB Cap (Bulleted Breech Cap) also known as the 6mm Flobert, is a variety of .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. Invented by Louis-Nicolas Flobert in 1845, it was the first rimfire metallic cartridge.The .22 BB Cap and .22 CB Cap are interchangeable and are relatively quiet low velocity cartridges, designed for indoor target shooting.
Flaubert
@@kemc77
Flobert ! Look it up .
The round shorter than a .22 short was the .22 flobert. My dad used to shoot them at the fair back in the 50's. Good to see Danny up and running again.
I miss flobart bar/parlor pistols
That sounds like fun. I bet they'd be ok for shooting mice in the house.
For shooting mice in my apartment (neighbor is a 3rd stage hoarder) i use a .177 cal air gun loaded with q-tips cut in half.
@@scottyj6226 do you want exploded mouse allover your house
I thought you meant that your dad was shooting up some fair grounds in the 50s... Not that the fair had a shooting area.
My first hunting trip when I had just emigrated to Australia aged 13, I went on a trip to the northern part of New South Wales with some friends. The property owner needed some food for the dogs. We went out into the paddocks and had a single shot Lithgow .22. We only had .22 shorts, believe it or not we managed to bag a good sized kangaroo. The dogs had a good feed for the next week. I still have that rifle, I bought it a few years back.
When I was five my grand dad took a yearling to Shorty's Butcher Shop in Durant Okla and Shorty showed me that one 22 short will indeed kill a 600 lb bovine.
When I turned 12 I got my own 22 single shot rifle from Western Auto for $20 and 22 shorts were like 35 cents for 50 rounds. I hunted muskrats, jackrabbits, and good eating cottontails and the 22 shorts always delivered one shot kills. Turn 70 this week, and yes I still hunt rabbits with the same single shot rifle.
Cheers from URUGUAY, and God bless America.
Thank you, Ruben!
Hopefully you do some shooting down there; I really don't know much about your country.
@@MrTruckerf well, we have more restrictions than you have in America, but we still shoot in shooting ranges or far from cities in places with big farms under consenting of the land lords , or places just far and under populated.
I have 22 Ammo from the early 90s like RWS Dynamite Nobel with more grains than normal mini 22Mag , and others old Americans ones.
I love the 22 short specially since is the oldest US cartridge still being manufactured
i love em because they're the same size and shape as my peepee
I mean they were developed in France but yeah.
dalton garrett actually it was invented by Smith & Wesson lengthening the 22 BB cap which used no gun powder, so Smith & Wesson also added gun powder and a heavier bullet which made it much more powerful then the 22 BB cap Which is why you’re probably thinking of
@@Leverguns50 yeah dont mind me I was thinking Rim fire and self contained ammunition
I have several boxes of those .22 rounds left to me by my father in law. Im glad to see they still work.
I've shot those very same bullets from my father's 22 revolver. Just seeing that box brought back a ton of great memories shooting that great gun, and the ammo was absolutely perfect, even so many decades old. Bravo!
Welcome back Deadeye Danny! Good to see you back Sir. 22 Short is still deadly imo.
That really surprised me! But the shorts are much quieter, I use them around the property for that reason. Did not realize they had Quite that much power.
Problem; Destructive groundhog and a nosey neighbor
Solution:.22 short and a simple funeral.
Absolutely 100%. They have enough force to enter but not exit so they just ricochet around inside you.
When I was given my first .22 I was told I could roam the woods with it after school but my dad only wanted me to use .22 shorts in those days. I bought them at the hardware store for 50 cents. I had hundreds of hours of fun shooting them. But, the .22 short is to be respected. It's got more power than you think. I always had to make sure of safety. That little round should be taken seriously.
That’s interesting, my generation it would be bb or pellet guns, I’ve got a 1.77 stainless bb in my foot and my buddy has one in his hand
@@nathanwilson3185 at least it wasnt a .22 pellet!!!!!!!
@@AR15andGOD maybe it wouldn’t have been a 22 round in there foot or hand if they had them instead? Maybe they just felt more comfortable with shooting each other with a BB gun because it is less lethal, kinda like handing a kid a gun vs a can of pepper spray... it’s probably far more likely for them to spray the pepper spray on someone for fun, especially with a BB gun you’ve got kids knowing there less lethal so they try it out on one another
J.C.Higgins bolt action single-shot .22 S-L-LR. From age 5-9 shorts,10-13 long and 14 Up LR starting age 5. Now 72, wore the rifle out.
22 CB caps was what Danny was trying to remember as being less powerful than the short. The CB cap has no propellent, just the priming compound.
At 20 yards they are deadly.Shot a cat between the eyes and it bulged its eyes out.Deader than a door nail.
I would rather be missed by a 45 than hit by a 22 short any day
I would rather be missed with a 45 then hit by a pellet gun.
I would rather not get shot at.
@@jessemcdaniel6485 yeah that's probably the preferable situation.
Accuracy is the most important thing, of course. 22's are accurate to 75 yards, as accurate as the conditions will allow and the abilities of the shooter. any sought of bullet that pierces your skin is going to be bad for your health to say the least.
Have you seen Paul Harrel's video ".22 Rifles for home Defense", where he puts this to the test? Well, he tests missing with a 44 Magnum, but the same principle is the same. He also tests if a 22 is better than nothing.
Thee 22 mag is real deadly! I have watched it poke holes in in the door of an old fridge from the 1940's as big as a 38 or .357.
I remember my grandfather gave my dad a box of 22 shorts for pest control when we lived in a location with very close neighbors because they were quieter he also said they were fine to shoot inside lol
My father (since passed) had some 22 ammo from the late 20's, when he was a boy. We shot about the whole box 4 years ago. Not a one failed to go off! I would not be concerned or hesitate to shoot old ammo if the need arose.
I had a large coffee can of ammo which got left out in the rain for weeks, factory & reloads. Every factory round fired, and @ 75% of my reloads.
I can't say the same. Some old .22s had about a 20% fail rate. They were about 30 years old.
@@lyletanner744 I guess older went better than
The shortest .22 i know is french ” bosquette" or 6mm flobert. I shot hundreds of them as a kid but they are as pricey as 9mm these days
Yeah, I have an old 6mm Flobert single shot repeater, we call them Zimmerstutzen (room-stutzen) in Germany, as they were used to plink indoors and in pubs up until the early 60s here, people also used them to shoot rats and mice.
Also called .22 cb/ .22 bb cap.
Love the ballistic tests with the different mediums, especially the gel! Loved seeing ol Danny boy!! He was so cool and funny as hell too! God's Speed Danny!
I've downed so much small game and pests to know for certain that they are not a kids toy lol
Right out of a short chipmunk
Even a 14 PSI air gun pellet can be lethal, nevermind a 22.
No Weapon is a Toy but they are great for kids that have a sense of responsibility and respect.
A 40j airgun can pierce a human skull , a .22 rounds have 2x this energy or more
@@gabrielgarzoni1958 a lot of off the shelf cheaper air riffles you can buy for around $200 go up to 1400 fps that are break overs but you can get some that have the built in air tanks that can be from 30 to 50 cal that shoot way faster and you can hunt medium-sized game like deer with them
So good to see Mr. Danny on film!
When I was a young man in the seventies possums and skunks were $0.50 a piece. I would trade even up with the fur buyer for a box of 22 shorts. I was in 4th grade. You always knew what hunting season was in because we always had a rifle or shotgun in our gun rack in the back window of our pickup trucks even parked in the school parking lot. Try doing that today see what happens?
What a great story! And a sad one too. This world has become afraid of everything. What is kind of funny, because in our youth was the Cold War with a REAL threat of being killed by someone on the other side of the planet.
Oh hi grandpa
@@brazeification2 respect your elders you youngins are what destroyed this world
@@unknownuser2737 that’s out of pocket
I used to hunt squirrels back in the late 60s and early 70s with 22 shorts. You could actually see the bullet as it headed towards the target.
The Remington Speedmaster is a really neat rifle. You can load it up to shoot 22 shorts, longs, and long rifle all at once with no issues.
I have a Remington model 550 it's at least 65 years old and it is stamped 22 short long or long rifle, I have never tried shooting shorts out if it. May pick up a box next time I see some.
Can do the same with my old Marlin 39a. I tend not to mix ammo, but you can do it.
Many years ago I, as a young deputy sheriff, I was was sent to the scene of a shooting victim. The victim was the son of my supervisor. His estranged girlfriend shot him once with a.22 short in the chest. He was dead by the time he hit the floor.
The victim was trying to wrestle the.22 revolver from his ex girlfriend’s hand when the revolver was fired causing the round to hit him in the chest at point blank range.
In short, (pun intended), he was just as dead from that small round as he would have been from a large caliber round!
shot placement is everything when using those little rounds.
. I used to work at a locker plant. We shot the cattle in the head with a 22 short. Today they use a steel rod with air pressure. And yes sir you are correct 22 shorts are deadly
22s will bounce around inside you and turn your insides into hamburger. A close head shot is powerful enough to penetrate your skull, scramble your brain, and QUIET.
That's why the Mob uses them.
@@joedoomsdaypio4374 the .22lr bouncing around your insides is false actually. in order to "bounce" they'd need to hit a rib and they'd only travel several inches. I've seen autopsies involving the .22lr.
@@madmike9398 yes sir!
Shooting rolls of TP in 2020: Ultimate Flex
Nah man, now if they shot a box of 9mm that would be fucked up
Maybe they can re use it... taking care of not aligning the holes, lol
@@justindunlap1235 or primers......
When i was a kid shorts were cheaper than long rifle so shorts is what i used for all small game
22 BB was the smaller one. So Good to see Dead-eye back on the range.
Add bone to the magazines. My brother and i do it all the time
Great video and even better banter. Impressive performance from those shorts, to be sure. Thanks for sharing this!
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@taofledermaus thanks for your response!
CCI makes a shorter round than a short called a CB. They are quieter than a pellet rifle coming out of my old Winchester 67a.
So glad to see Danny back on line.
I have some i found years ago when i got a henry
along with the CB cap there was the BB cap if my memory serves...my dad had some, he's 81, I'm in my 50s
@@MJA5 Confirmed!
Are they still made?
I've got a little youth Henry I'd like to try some of the shorts, CBs, and (had not heard of) BB caps in. I wonder about being able to cycle them properly through the lever action. With my semi auto, of course, they would not cycle properly. But I was able to hold the charging handle closed with my left hand and cycle it somewhat like a pump.
Derek DeLamar that'd be a neat experiment. When we were kids we had single-shot bolt Marlins and Remingtons and the like. Like a break-action shotgun you could fire whatever.
My grandmother kept a revolver in 22 short in her house for personal protection I always thought to myself what in the world is that little thing going to do if someone broke in but I guess if you aim in the right spot and pop 6 in someone It will definitely stop them
Bart Simpson, threateningly:
*Eat my shorts...*
Nice
👏
Golf clap
At least we know what he means now
I've seen some old and moldy, still fire. Shame it's such a hard reload. .22 is an awesome goto and 0 recoil. It's off the shelf here. Due to the round being so small a tight the rebound is a concern. Be wise, be safe. God bless all Gods Free People, so many countries it's just a past memory. Do not allow what happened to us happen to you. FREEDOM MATTERS.
He will truly be missed but will never 😔 out of our hearts
Hadn't seen this one, miss Danny. RIP buddy.
.22 BB Cap are the Shortest ones - They were perfect for shooting indoors or in the Hen house without disturbing the other animals too much. I once shot out a porch light at about 40 yards with one. Good to See Danny!
40 yards? Must have been holding over a fair bit.
@@AutoCrete It actually didn't drop too much at that distance (maybe an inch?) but my shot was just on the right edge of the lamps frame that holds the glass and the glass broke because the shot had just enough energy to knock a little dimple in the fairly flimsy metal. The Wind was very calm and i was using a very nice old .22 bolt action target rifle that is a tack driver which also I'm sure played a part. I do recall though looking at my handy work and being pretty amused that a standing cold first shot out my bedroom window on a target 4 inches wide when I was nervous about never having shot one and not knowing how it was going to sound - hit about 2" off to the right and down an inch or so from my aim point. I was impressed with the BB Cap immensely after that and was sad they weren't common anymore because they are ridiculously quiet and fun to shoot.
@@AutoCrete Also they were the ones that had just a little half round-ish dome on them and they were quite old so maybe they were just awesome then! : D
@@Sp1der44 I haven't shot a BB cap in over 30 years but do remember LMAO at the tiny 'peh' noise that it made. I was told they were made for target practice in the basement. I'd imagine you could kill a rabbit with one but it would have to be nibbling at a carrot taped to the bottom of the end of a barrel.
@@AutoCrete Right! They were the $hit for sure - I only got 5 and every single one brought a grin! Super Quiet!